While carjack looks gloriously stupid I kind of like him. I just like to imagine that in the Marvel U even small-time crooks feel like they have to get a supervillain identity.
That and the fact that he based his entire identity and operations, on the ONE specific crime of carjacking, not even selling them, just carjacking. It's just hilarious.
I dig that idea! several villains in DC give of a similiar vibe (hello condiment king). It would make a kind of funny sense that some of them would try to be low-key supervillains, kinda like how people in "the hood" feel the need to have a flamboyant MC persona to link them to Hip hop culture.
I bet Carjack was really Doom. Gotta make that money somehow. Think about it, he stiffed Luke Cage over $200. He's about as poor as you'd expect a tiny, like smaller than Luxembourg probably,Eastern European nation despot would be.
Wouldn’t put it past someone on the creative team to have just gotten divorced and their spouse remarried. Probably should have called this “DeFalco and Frenz filibustering about things that annoy them: The comic.”
JohnnyElRed Carjacking was a new thing back then. Linkara is relatively young so to be fair you can't expect him to remember how big a deal it was back then, but I'm sure he could have looked into how much hysteria there was back then over the subject.
“Just take the car and run!!!” See, now, I hear this statement, and I think of them picking up the car, holding it over their shoulder, and booking it down the street!!
11:15 That line of dialogue could also be Eric referring to DC Comics, as it's been established throughout a good chunk of the Marvel universe's run that the company exists in-universe, with characters such as Superman, Batman and the Justice League occasionally being named dropped by different characters when comparing their own experiences as superheroes to that of the DC heroes.
According to crime statistics at the time car jacking effected 2.1 in 10,000 people hardly what I would infer to be analogous to cancer. Sounds more like the media over exaggerating like usual.
This comic was also written shortly after the passing of the Federal Anti-Car Theft Act of 1992, which made carjacking a federal crime that could get you 15 to life. And counting in that articles about carjackings appeared more than once a week in the national news, it's pretty clear this comic is addressing a nationwide scare at its height.
Actually Linkara, Dick Grayson going back to Robin apparently came close to happening. Since he was almost exclusively in the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans by 1983, I think the Batman books were suffering because they didn’t have the Batman and Robin dynamic. The Batman editors apparently (this is just me remembering from another video) were going to de-age Dick to an age YOUNGER than he was when Batman originally recruited him, so he’d go back to just being Batman’s sidekick. And the only reason he didn’t was because Wolfman and Perez compromised with making him Nightwing, freeing the Robin mantle up for Jason Todd.
If both Thunderstrike and Bloodaxe are architects, maybe they can team up and come up with a building that can't be destroyed by superhero shenanigans.
Oh! Yes. About capes. There are ways of preventing one from injuring you or hindering you in a fight. One way is having superstrength so you can simply tear it if you really need to. Another way is training with your cape so you know how to move around without it getting caught on things. You can also make it easily detachable in case it ever does while having several spares on hand. They're useful too. Batman, for example, uses his to hide his hands so his enemies don't know if he's going to punch or throw something, drape his whole body with it to appear more imposing (to go with his terror motif), glide and slow his fall, confuse his opponents, and bundle up in it on cold New York nights. You'd expect Edna Mode, super costume designer extraordinaire, to think of that, but seeing as she puts high heels on adolescent superheroines, maybe her reputation is exaggerated. Personally, I think the real reason is that capes were too difficult for Pixar to animate at the time. After all, it did take them till 2003 to figure out blinking.
Well according to the incredibles timeline, it was the sixties and fifties.also they followed watchmen cynic logic. Honestly i hope the sequel has a hero or villain that has a weaponized cool cape to make edna look like an idiot.
A fun thing is that in the Forgotten Realms books, that was something that Drizzt Do'Urden also takes advantage of and often other rangers as well. A cloak or cape tends to break up a silhouette and make camo in the woods or shadows easier, makes it harder for ranged projectiles to know where center mass is, and can be used to trap spears and even swords depending on how thick the cloth is.
Bloodaxe is a female villain? That's actually pretty interesting since in the 90s it was pretty much an unwritten law that all lady baddies were ultra-sexy and crushing on the hero so Bloodaxe breaking the mode is pretty unheard of back then.
Looking back on it, I think Thor is a Nightwing situation, technically. Thor started off as Donald Blake, and while plenty of stories would retcon his origin, he was still Donald Blake, physician for nearly 20 years (1966-1982 or so). The only times he was ever really just 'Thor' was from 1982 to the 90s, and sometime in the 2000s onward.
21:05 Doctor Strange Movie proved why capes are awesome. also even if they are not alive or transformable, as long as you make them easily retractable, no problem. granted, you'll lose LOTS of capes, but you'll look cool
Retractable or detachable. But yes, capes are cool. Half the cast of Black Panther wore one at some point or other in the film, and they all looked AMAZING.
He can't use the name "Thorsaurus". They've got to save that name for if Devil Dinosaur ever picks up the hammer! & yes, the idea of a dinosaur being deemed worthy is a bit of a stretch, but just imagine what it'd look like.
14:50 If the criminal's whole deal is Car Jacking, would that make him "Dumb: Master of the Stick Shift"? 18:15 "The narration say that, shockingly enough, Carjack and his cronies instinctively know that they have no chance against Bloodaxe." And isn't that a nice change from the "Oh, man..... see that guy with the leather, chains and the big axe? I'll bet we can take him." we normally see?
I’m not sure if anyone has pointed this out, but according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, carjackings were, quite, “higher on average during the first five years of the 1993-2002 period”. I couldn’t say it was bad enough to warrant all the exclamations in the intro of this comic, but it’s worth noting.
The whole idea behind Thunderstrike was to have a powerful superhero who really was just an ordinary working Joe at heart. Later on they even starting putting the tagline "The Everyman Avenger" on the covers, which probably didn't inspire as much excitement as they hoped. Of course you probably wouldn't really call a Manhattan architect an "everyman' either. Not exactly blue collar work, that. He's kind of like Spider-Man without the mental issues and permanent childhood in that Eric's personal life was as important to the story as punching bad guys.. In any case, the series definitely improved over time and the 1st issue is probably the worst one. It probably wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as it did if Marvel's EiC Ton DeFalco wasn't the one writing it, but hey. At least the series got a proper ending thanks to that.
Gnarled tree branch canes are the best kind of canes - as long as they're sturdy and splinter-free. Then again, I'm a sucker for found materials, so make of it what you will. Also, regarding Bloodaxe's MO: "So, kill all criminals?" "YES" "Even the guy who stole bread to feed his family?" "ESPECIALLY HIM" "…You really don't like Les Miz, do you?" "NO KIDDING"
I have to say, the idea of a hero with architectural knowledge/an architect who has experience in hero circles opens up some possibilities. Like helping rebuild after the latest alien invasion by designing and then realizing new buildings, or you could have him be the one who designs some of the residences of superhero teams, have him know how best to save or bring down a building...
Thorsaurus. Someone make that happen. "Capes are awesome and he's super-powerful, he'd be fine." Nothing like a good old "Shut up, because logic" quip. lol
I know the art isn't exactly stellar, but it's nice to see Thunderstrike drawn in Euclidian geometry, unlike the previous time he was featured on the show.
If linkara ever reviews the incredibles, id love if he gave a rebuttal/counter argument to edna's anti-cape speech- Edna Mode: Thunderhead, cape caght on a lauching missile! Linkara: i'm with bob, maybe thunderhead wasn't the brightest bulb Edna: Stratogale, sucked into a jet turbine! Linkara: here's an idea, dont fly directly in front of the turbine! Edna: Dynaguy, strangled on takeoff! Linkara: check the takeoff area! Edna: Meta Man, snagged on elevator! Linkara: what kind of superman analogue gets taken out by an elevator? Edna: Splashdown, sucked into a vortex! Linkara: ok capes don't really fit aquaman style heroes Edna: NO CAPES!!! Linkara: CAPES ARE AWESOME!!! Seems those guys just sucked at being superheroes ':\
Yeah, actually, when this comic came out the over-the-top carjacking narration was just the sort of thing you'd see on the nightly news. They were losing their minds over a supposed plague of carjackings. It was really weird.
And it's hardly bigger around than the handle. It looks like one of those disappointingly tiny suckers. It doesn't seem much better than a handle with nothing on it.
A murderous nut with a special axe who think he's the good guy, but makes strong use of skull imagery, is over muscled and weirdly proportioned, and has absurdly huge shoulder and knee protection plus other weirdly proportioned armor. Call the Imperium of Man, I think they're missing another battle brother. Edit: okay, never mind.
CaptainMarvell92 Returns I wouldn't say they're that similar, but the most detailed look at them I got was in a tv show, so I'm probably not qualified to judge. I could make similar jokes about a lot of characters from the 90's.
The presence of Thunderstrike and Bloodaxe was probably the factor that led to Carjack and his goons getting off. With those two present, it could be argued by a lawyer that the police didn't have the ability to say whether the evidence found on the scene was genuine, or whether either of the two costumed guys might have planted it. That's one of the problems with vigilantes: they contaminate crime scenes. If the lawyers were good at their jobs, they would have pounced on this uncertainty immediately, in order to get their clients released.
*The following are the musings of a Salty SEAGULL named EARL who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it!* [EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] 11:13 - "Considering how much Ben hated the name Scarlet Spider, I wouldn't be surprised if the hero names were completely fine, yet Marvel characters considered them corny or uncool! After all, this was the 90s with unimaginative names like Diehard!" 14:27 - "I wouldn't be surprised if CARJACK was a malfunctioning DOOMBOT who became obsessed with CARJACKING! Seriously, that would probably make him way more interesting! 14:51 - lt could also tie back to Linkara's Dr. Dumb nickname, as a malfunctioning DOOMBOT obsessed with CARJACKING, does sound stupid but in a quirky fun way like Dr. Doom!!" 24:42 - "Yes, thanks to enchantments from the Enchantress, the axe had the magical ability to create dimensional rifts which allow the user to teleport!"
Comic: "Carjacking- no one is safe!" Me, the user of public transit: "um." I gotta say that even though I haven't read this, it's like coming home seeing so much 90s Marvel in one single comic.
Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead would be way more entertaining if it stared Thunderstrike and Bloodaxe and fun fact there was actually famed 10th-century Viking called Eric Bloodaxe
I like how humble Eric is. It kinda makes me sad, considering now Thor Odinson claims he's not worthy of his name as well... Which is admittedly kinda stupid, it's not like he got the name after lifting the hammer, it was given to him by his parents I assume. Replace the name "Thor" with "Steve" Jane Foster: All-New All-Different Steve "I'm not worthy of being called 'Steve'" said Steve the Unworthy to Jane Foster Steve
Thor Odinson never said he was unworthy of his name, just his hammer, which Jane uses now. It's part of the big theme of Jason Aaron's run: What makes a god worthy?
Things Relevant to nerdom I know, Josuke is like the only JoJo I have a legitimate crush on besides maybe Jonathan. Also JoJo fans are never weird... only bizarre!
virus Juvera They’re all JoJo. JOnathan JOstar. JOseph JOstar. JOtaro kuJO. JOsuke Higashikata (okay, bastard child. But it counts because the bullies decided to call him JoJo in his introductory scene). I can’t speak for the manga, though
I'll be honest, as I listen to this...I can't help but grin at these kinds of things the comic brings up, but doesn't follow through with. The superhero insurance stuff, the suit discussion and the fact that a superhero clothes shop exists on the streets, villains with crazy getups trying to be smart and anonymous only for it to blow up in their faces...all mixed with the fact that Thunderstrike is kinda like Ben Reily, and I really like Ben Reily as a concept. This just makes me think of some Marvel universe side-scrolling beat-em-up where you go left to right beating up street thugs and try to take out people in your hometown, but you can also retreat to superhero clothes shops to get new gear that dramatically changes how you fight. And every time you fight one boss, he has a different mask that gives him different powers and skills. That'd be AWESOME. Shame this comic only touched on these ideas. Creators, get on this!
I love these redos of your old reviews. It's so interesting to see how things change over the years. Opinions grow and change but the fundamental ideas typically stay
I actually like that Thunder Strike realizes he messed up & thinks about how to make up for it! Sure the comic drops it, but its a nice sentiment! Pity they didn't follow up on it as it would have been great for world building & show he's a man who takes responsibility for his mistakes!
I'm kind of surprised Dick Grayson never became Robin too. I heard the reason Barbara Gordon became Batgirl again in the nu52 was because she's the most iconic. I think this is also why she replaced Stephanie Brown in the Smallville comics (That and Dan Didio refused to let writers used Stephanie until Batman Eternal). But Dick is the most iconic Robin but he didn't revert back when the nu52 happened.
Speaking as someone who was around when this came out, and was working in comics, I think the real problem with the early 90s was, in order to support as many new companies and new comics, the big two had to drop standards that were already somewhat questionable in regards to the quality of their artist, especially after 4 really good artists and Rob Liefeld left to start image.
To be fair Thunderstrike was just ... okay! There is this misconception that he was a lot worse than he was. He is viewed as a pretty rubbish character, Maybe it's a case of one mans junk is another mans treasure, but I certinaly don't think he was AS bad as people made out, but he wasnt that awesome either. Certainly a product of its time. :P
I only knew thunderstrike from a few sources being the linkara reviews of this and the Defenders and an Avengers enciclopedia of members. He seems like a very sympathetic character. Not the greatest but very interesting, aknowledging his mistakes and being a humble person (again, only have seen the linkara reviews and little more).
Thunderstrike is like Ben Reily, but with less controversy, and less popularity. i personally like him. i don't know that much. i just don't know. like him don't know why
The big problem I have for making certain characters simply a mantle for other people to take over is some of them aren't just a mantle. Thor is the big one. Thor isn't a superhero secret identity for people to just take over, he's a character. Unlike Superman who's really Clark Kent, Thor is his actual name. Ignoring when he changed into Donald Blake which was revealed as simply a change of memory by Odin, Thor is his own person. No secret identity. So simply making another person "Thor" like they did with Thunderstrike or present day with Jane Foster is really head scratching for me. Especially today when Thor isn't dead or missing, he just can't use the hammer anymore. But Thor isn't the hammer, Thor is Thor.
The problem with this complaint is that both Eric Masterson and Beta Ray Bill have gone by "Thor", and that's fine, but it's suddenly a problem if Jane Foster does?
No, I have the problem with both them and Jane Foster. There is only one Thor. That's his name, not some title. His title is the God of Thunder, of which there are many. Thor is a personality, a character.
This is probably in the comments somewhere, but they're actually was a rise in vehicle theft in the 90s. Even though that narrator for the comic is a bit much.
Linkara doesn't read "boku no hero academia" there they explain what capes are for. They serve so that "they can take tormented little girls in their pain and suffering and cloack them in its comfort."(Mirio Togata) p.s. No western comic would dare to say that, even though it is cool and awesome!
sad. i would love to see him reviewin an anime episode while comparing it to the manga. Also aother way to make capes cool? do what simon did with super tengen toppa gurren lagann's "cape", make it capable of morph it into a weapon.
Fun fact: double-bladed axes are never used in combat-the other blade makes it so heavy it's hard to recover, and you never need that other blade-it's not like a sword, where you can thrust with the point. Some axes, dating back to the Persian sagaris, actually had spikes sticking out the back of the blade, but that's there to give you an option to use the other end if you want to stab someone with that spike (say, if they're wearing armor).
Thank you Linkara, especially with the status quo speech. Hopefully I'll stop having to bring up the fact that Kieron Gillen literally wrote an entire comic issue on the subject as his swan song to new Loki at the end of the Loki run of Journey into Mystery.
Is that the Loki known to Jersey City as "The Hipster Viking God?" When that comic showed that Loki was trying to be a good guy I was like "What? When did this happen?"
Dalton Williams Well when the voice of Yoda in that show decides he’s had enough of the awkward dialect, I too would expect him to let loose a little in the openings.
25:33- I have a pet peeve when characters in comic books (as well as comic book movies and shows) refer to their costumes as "uniforms" For some characters like Captain America it makes sense, but for characters like Superman and Spider-Man, it annoys me. How many people do you see wear uniforms as brightly colored as a lot of superhero suits.
Linkara is doing one of Josukes most famous and marketed poses, whereas Thunder Strike is doing Josukes last pose in part 4 (at least in the anime adaptation, I can’t speak for the manga). PS Josuke for life.
One of my favorite stories from Astro City involves a writer at a small comic book company and some of the issues they deal with in a world where superheroes exist. Including having the superheroes show up at their office to complain, a supervillian attacking the editor because they made it look like he was a racist and at the end of the comic cosmic powers destroying the building she worked at.
i really need to read astro city. i know is written by one of the comic book olympians and best writers kurt busiek (from the kin of grant morrison, scott synder, geoff johns, alan moore, stan lee, jack kirby, gail simone and whoever is currently written black panther, i heard he is really good)
I'd recommend them. They sometimes took a bit of a different take on superheroes than you ussually see. One story dealt with ageing superheroes. Another called The Dark Ages dealt with superheroes becoming a lot darker in the 70's. One of my favourites was a collection of short stories of regular people dealing with superheroes which was really good.
thats another story that convinced me too read astro city. it even won an eisner, and is contnung in the issue 50. Also. the covers are always done by ALEX MOTHERFUCKING MASTER ROSS (I really like alex ross' artwork, even though his batman looks sometimes weird. and only bats)
"a supervillain attacking the editor because they made him look like a racist" And just like that I have this wonderful mental image of Doctor Doom lounging on his throne reading a comic book before lurching forward in shock and saying "What's this?!". Dynamically, he launches to his feet and, holding his comic book aloft, proclaims "I am DOOM! I EQUALLY HATE EVERYONE WHO ARE NOT NAMED REED RICHARDS! I SHALL TEACH THESE PUNY WRITERS TO FEAR THE WRATH OF *DOOM!"*
What was with that song used over the title card? It had pretty much the same chords and nearly the same rhythm as Start Me Up by The Rolling Stones, like it doesn't sound like a coincidence, but upon looking it up, this song came out in 1978 and Start Me Up came out in 1981.
Not to be that guy, but you don't have to be good at drawing and writing to say that other writing and drawing is crap. If you're bad at something of course you can see when someone is as bad as you at it...lmao
Misterprickly ah ok then. So you are a pathetic person with nothing better to do with his time than watch content creators on TH-cam you don't even enjoy. You must have a riveting life.
Actually compared to his first comic Linkara seems to have improved tremendously in the writing department to the point he actually produces some pretty neat stories like the Missing No. for example.
I was perfectly content with Beta Ray Bill. He at least proved himself worthy you take up the mantle. But this... this is too much. Does everyone just get a nigh invincible enchanted weapon?
what gets me is that linkara has been reviewing comics for 12+ years and yet still hasnt gotten the same mainstream attention like comics explained and comicstorian. no diserespect to those guys at all, but linkara actually has a comicbook storyline in his videos and does a phenomenal job of not just explaining whats going on but giving his own personal opinion of the comic. I guess thats the difference between reviewing the comic and just reading the trade to us.
Young justice (the tv show) has nightwing as nightwing! Also a black aqualad becomes full aquaman, weird but I love the black aqualad so perfectly good change in my book. Wally West was also degraded to sidekick and died crisis on infinite earth's style, it's not clear if he's getting better and becoming full flash or permanently dead but him being a sidekick works because most of the characters are sidekicks and his death is VERY well handled with massive long-term storytelling with other characters needing to come to terms with it (the show is VERY concerned with character's psychology and it just works). Also thorsaurus should totally be a dinosaur thor combo
I think they're just costumes for people who want to come in and dress up at as Spider-Man or Captain America which is the simplest explanation and the one that is correct
Wait didn't the fixer stole a car in holy terror? if he carjacked it, does that mean...
*HE WAS A TERRORIST ALL ALONG*
OHMYGOD! The crazed, torturing, maniac was a terrorist?! Who could have foreseen this?!
Or economic anxiety.
@Metrion77 Talk about putting the moral of the story in a new light... >.>
The Goblin HIS WHOLE MISSION IS SELF DEFEATIIINGG!!
CALLED IT
While carjack looks gloriously stupid I kind of like him. I just like to imagine that in the Marvel U even small-time crooks feel like they have to get a supervillain identity.
That and the fact that he based his entire identity and operations, on the ONE specific crime of carjacking, not even selling them, just carjacking. It's just hilarious.
Exactly! It's great!
I dig that idea! several villains in DC give of a similiar vibe (hello condiment king). It would make a kind of funny sense that some of them would try to be low-key supervillains, kinda like how people in "the hood" feel the need to have a flamboyant MC persona to link them to Hip hop culture.
Carjack looks like a Milestone parody of Doctor Doom.
I bet Carjack was really Doom. Gotta make that money somehow. Think about it, he stiffed Luke Cage over $200. He's about as poor as you'd expect a tiny, like smaller than Luxembourg probably,Eastern European nation despot would be.
Why do I get the sensation that the author of this comic got carjacked before wrting it?
Also, really unhappy with editors/marketing who choose character names.
Wouldn’t put it past someone on the creative team to have just gotten divorced and their spouse remarried.
Probably should have called this “DeFalco and Frenz filibustering about things that annoy them: The comic.”
A random mugging got us The Spectre though, so this sometimes works out.
JohnnyElRed My thoughts exactly.
JohnnyElRed Carjacking was a new thing back then. Linkara is relatively young so to be fair you can't expect him to remember how big a deal it was back then, but I'm sure he could have looked into how much hysteria there was back then over the subject.
“Just take the car and run!!!”
See, now, I hear this statement, and I think of them picking up the car, holding it over their shoulder, and booking it down the street!!
Like they should have
Like Action Comics #1.
11:15 That line of dialogue could also be Eric referring to DC Comics, as it's been established throughout a good chunk of the Marvel universe's run that the company exists in-universe, with characters such as Superman, Batman and the Justice League occasionally being named dropped by different characters when comparing their own experiences as superheroes to that of the DC heroes.
Actually, yes, carjacking was a big national thing in the early 1990's. It may have been overblown by the press at the time, but it was big.
That probably explains the original 1997 Grand Theft Auto.
According to crime statistics at the time car jacking effected 2.1 in 10,000 people hardly what I would infer to be analogous to cancer. Sounds more like the media over exaggerating like usual.
This comic was also written shortly after the passing of the Federal Anti-Car Theft Act of 1992, which made carjacking a federal crime that could get you 15 to life. And counting in that articles about carjackings appeared more than once a week in the national news, it's pretty clear this comic is addressing a nationwide scare at its height.
On average, 38k carjackings annually from 1993 - 2002.
www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/c02.txt
Kyle Olson Same with the white nationalism bit.
"Hey, Dad, you know Thor. See if he can get Captain America to help!" Way to unnecessarily slam on Thor, kid.
Actually Linkara, Dick Grayson going back to Robin apparently came close to happening.
Since he was almost exclusively in the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans by 1983, I think the Batman books were suffering because they didn’t have the Batman and Robin dynamic. The Batman editors apparently (this is just me remembering from another video) were going to de-age Dick to an age YOUNGER than he was when Batman originally recruited him, so he’d go back to just being Batman’s sidekick. And the only reason he didn’t was because Wolfman and Perez compromised with making him Nightwing, freeing the Robin mantle up for Jason Todd.
MovieMan22 he mentioned that once. That's how i found out about it.
Anyone that knows the comic industry isn't surprised in the least. XD
Thunderstrike’s Bizarre Adventure: Mjolnir Is Unbreakable.
SAND ON A BEACH!!
Have you seen Thor Ragnarok
Is...pregnant pause...that a JoJo reference!?
Phantom Rain
Thunder Tendency
Asgard Crusaders
Lightning is Unbreakable
Golden Hammer
Stone Cloud
Steel Armor Fly
Thunthunlion
@AT Productions no no bad no anime references when someone is taking about comic books okay
"There, sure glad I don't look stupid in this" is easily my favorite running gag. Always makes me snicker when it occurs.
If both Thunderstrike and Bloodaxe are architects, maybe they can team up and come up with a building that can't be destroyed by superhero shenanigans.
"Hey, Dad, you know Thor, right?"
"Of course, I'm sure the mighty Thor would love to hel-"
"Can you ask him to get Captain America to help?"
"..."
"My son is dead to me."
"I mean, I would like Thor to help, but his dumbass vest is just tacky. I can't be seen next to him."
Oh! Yes. About capes. There are ways of preventing one from injuring you or hindering you in a fight. One way is having superstrength so you can simply tear it if you really need to. Another way is training with your cape so you know how to move around without it getting caught on things. You can also make it easily detachable in case it ever does while having several spares on hand.
They're useful too. Batman, for example, uses his to hide his hands so his enemies don't know if he's going to punch or throw something, drape his whole body with it to appear more imposing (to go with his terror motif), glide and slow his fall, confuse his opponents, and bundle up in it on cold New York nights.
You'd expect Edna Mode, super costume designer extraordinaire, to think of that, but seeing as she puts high heels on adolescent superheroines, maybe her reputation is exaggerated. Personally, I think the real reason is that capes were too difficult for Pixar to animate at the time. After all, it did take them till 2003 to figure out blinking.
Well according to the incredibles timeline, it was the sixties and fifties.also they followed watchmen cynic logic.
Honestly i hope the sequel has a hero or villain that has a weaponized cool cape to make edna look like an idiot.
A fun thing is that in the Forgotten Realms books, that was something that Drizzt Do'Urden also takes advantage of and often other rangers as well. A cloak or cape tends to break up a silhouette and make camo in the woods or shadows easier, makes it harder for ranged projectiles to know where center mass is, and can be used to trap spears and even swords depending on how thick the cloth is.
AKA: DON'T. FUCK. WITH. CAPES (or cloaks)
Even I, Superman, will tell Bruce he rocks his cape, mine is my old blanket from Krypton.
Originally, Superman and later Batman took their costume cues from circus "strongmen" of the day.
They should have called him Dr. Vroom.
"you thought it was Carjack stealing all those cars, but it was actually me, Vroom!"
A missed opportunity, to be sure.
This made me laugh way too hard, I love the idea of Dr. Vroom~!
Victor von vroom
*bursts through door*
I saw the Jojo posing and I got here as fast as I could.
Dude he's everywhere. I stopped being surprised anymore.
Dude, we just replaced that door, c'mon!
"You thought it was Jojo striking a pose, but it was me! Thunderstrike!"
Your ever where
Crazy Noisy Bizarre Wall
Bloodaxe is a female villain? That's actually pretty interesting since in the 90s it was pretty much an unwritten law that all lady baddies were ultra-sexy and crushing on the hero so Bloodaxe breaking the mode is pretty unheard of back then.
This comic is about two architects battling that knocked over...a...building...
...
Job security!
Car Jack was the TAZZERR FACE of his time.
I would of gone with Chop shop for Car jack as it sounds more right than Car jack
METAPHORICAL!!!
It's a day for dumbass names.
Not only do we have two architects fighting each other, but they also destroy a building together.
15:19 missed the opportunity for a "we should do something! Should we do something?" joke.
Looking back on it, I think Thor is a Nightwing situation, technically. Thor started off as Donald Blake, and while plenty of stories would retcon his origin, he was still Donald Blake, physician for nearly 20 years (1966-1982 or so). The only times he was ever really just 'Thor' was from 1982 to the 90s, and sometime in the 2000s onward.
Being a hero while wearing a skull mask... a red one... in the Marvel universe.
21:05 Doctor Strange Movie proved why capes are awesome. also even if they are not alive or transformable, as long as you make them easily retractable, no problem. granted, you'll lose LOTS of capes, but you'll look cool
Retractable or detachable. But yes, capes are cool. Half the cast of Black Panther wore one at some point or other in the film, and they all looked AMAZING.
DON'T TELL ME ABOUT THAT MOVIE I WANT TO AVOID AS MUCH SPOILERS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO WATCH IT
He can't use the name "Thorsaurus". They've got to save that name for if Devil Dinosaur ever picks up the hammer!
& yes, the idea of a dinosaur being deemed worthy is a bit of a stretch, but just imagine what it'd look like.
The Secret Wars tie-in miniseries that focused on the Spider-Island world did have a cameo by a Dino-Thor.
Yeah; because if that happened; WE'RE ALL GONNA BE EXTINCT; LIKE WE WOULD'VE BEEN IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT GIANT ASTEROID. . .
I don’t think a dinosaur picking Thor’s hammer is Hardy a stretch, have you seen his other reviews?
@@mycontentcreation5264 Have you seen a T-rex....good luck picking up ANYTHING with those paws
@@jfdrac I mean fair, but the hammer is tiny by comparison. I wouldn't be surprised at Thor-Rex. XD
"I am CARJACK, master of the stick shift!"
14:50 If the criminal's whole deal is Car Jacking, would that make him "Dumb: Master of the Stick Shift"?
18:15 "The narration say that, shockingly enough, Carjack and his cronies instinctively know that they have no chance against Bloodaxe."
And isn't that a nice change from the "Oh, man..... see that guy with the leather, chains and the big axe? I'll bet we can take him." we normally see?
That costume lady's face is too detailed for a comic book NPC. She looks like a cameo of someone the artist knows.
I’m not sure if anyone has pointed this out, but according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, carjackings were, quite, “higher on average during the first five years of the 1993-2002 period”. I couldn’t say it was bad enough to warrant all the exclamations in the intro of this comic, but it’s worth noting.
The whole idea behind Thunderstrike was to have a powerful superhero who really was just an ordinary working Joe at heart. Later on they even starting putting the tagline "The Everyman Avenger" on the covers, which probably didn't inspire as much excitement as they hoped. Of course you probably wouldn't really call a Manhattan architect an "everyman' either. Not exactly blue collar work, that. He's kind of like Spider-Man without the mental issues and permanent childhood in that Eric's personal life was as important to the story as punching bad guys..
In any case, the series definitely improved over time and the 1st issue is probably the worst one. It probably wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as it did if Marvel's EiC Ton DeFalco wasn't the one writing it, but hey. At least the series got a proper ending thanks to that.
I think the idea is pretty great, pity the execution could be better.
Well didn’t he start off as a construction worker? That’s a bit more blue worker
Stephen Marco I think he is/was an architect or some type of construction engineer.
THUNDER! THUNDER! THUNDER STRIKE HOOOOOOO!
I’m about to sleep-
*linkara uploads video... and the thumbnail has Jojo poses of josuke*
I’m awake!!!
virus Juvera yes it's is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Awaken my masters
I thought Linkara was doing the vogue.
Gnarled tree branch canes are the best kind of canes - as long as they're sturdy and splinter-free. Then again, I'm a sucker for found materials, so make of it what you will.
Also, regarding Bloodaxe's MO:
"So, kill all criminals?"
"YES"
"Even the guy who stole bread to feed his family?"
"ESPECIALLY HIM"
"…You really don't like Les Miz, do you?"
"NO KIDDING"
I have to say, the idea of a hero with architectural knowledge/an architect who has experience in hero circles opens up some possibilities. Like helping rebuild after the latest alien invasion by designing and then realizing new buildings, or you could have him be the one who designs some of the residences of superhero teams, have him know how best to save or bring down a building...
Thorsaurus. Someone make that happen.
"Capes are awesome and he's super-powerful, he'd be fine."
Nothing like a good old "Shut up, because logic" quip. lol
I know the art isn't exactly stellar, but it's nice to see Thunderstrike drawn in Euclidian geometry, unlike the previous time he was featured on the show.
If linkara ever reviews the incredibles, id love if he gave a rebuttal/counter argument to edna's anti-cape speech-
Edna Mode: Thunderhead, cape caght on a lauching missile!
Linkara: i'm with bob, maybe thunderhead wasn't the brightest bulb
Edna: Stratogale, sucked into a jet turbine!
Linkara: here's an idea, dont fly directly in front of the turbine!
Edna: Dynaguy, strangled on takeoff!
Linkara: check the takeoff area!
Edna: Meta Man, snagged on elevator!
Linkara: what kind of superman analogue gets taken out by an elevator?
Edna: Splashdown, sucked into a vortex!
Linkara: ok capes don't really fit aquaman style heroes
Edna: NO CAPES!!!
Linkara: CAPES ARE AWESOME!!! Seems those guys just sucked at being superheroes ':\
When I saw Carjack, I didn't think "Dr. Doom." I thought more "Rastafarian Destro."
14:50
That "I am DUMB" really got me ! 🤣
Yeah, actually, when this comic came out the over-the-top carjacking narration was just the sort of thing you'd see on the nightly news. They were losing their minds over a supposed plague of carjackings. It was really weird.
38, 000 carjackings annually from 1993 to 2002. I wanted to see if it was a "national disgrace".
Thunderstrike's got a Magic Mace... Where'd he purchase that?
+Robin0928
he got it from hawkman who didn't need it anymore after realizing it wasn't a hammer.
Now I’m imagining what effects magical pepper spray would have
It would temporarily blind their target and force them to speak in Aramaic.
Odin gave it to him
And it's hardly bigger around than the handle. It looks like one of those disappointingly tiny suckers. It doesn't seem much better than a handle with nothing on it.
A murderous nut with a special axe who think he's the good guy, but makes strong use of skull imagery, is over muscled and weirdly proportioned, and has absurdly huge shoulder and knee protection plus other weirdly proportioned armor.
Call the Imperium of Man, I think they're missing another battle brother.
Edit: okay, never mind.
CaptainMarvell92 Returns I wouldn't say they're that similar, but the most detailed look at them I got was in a tv show, so I'm probably not qualified to judge.
I could make similar jokes about a lot of characters from the 90's.
Next time on Thunderstrike! The introduction of an even *deadlier* foe: SHOPLIF-TOR!
Can we go beyond Thunderstrike?
... yeah that doesn't work
AnonJl1 You know what you Did!
- ToonMobb :-)
You tried man.
Eh, I thought it was funny.
You tried, so points for that.
The presence of Thunderstrike and Bloodaxe was probably the factor that led to Carjack and his goons getting off. With those two present, it could be argued by a lawyer that the police didn't have the ability to say whether the evidence found on the scene was genuine, or whether either of the two costumed guys might have planted it.
That's one of the problems with vigilantes: they contaminate crime scenes. If the lawyers were good at their jobs, they would have pounced on this uncertainty immediately, in order to get their clients released.
*The following are the musings of a Salty SEAGULL named EARL who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it!*
[EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] 11:13 - "Considering how much Ben hated the name Scarlet Spider, I wouldn't be surprised if the hero names were completely fine, yet Marvel characters considered them corny or uncool! After all, this was the 90s with unimaginative names like Diehard!" 14:27 - "I wouldn't be surprised if CARJACK was a malfunctioning DOOMBOT who became obsessed with CARJACKING! Seriously, that would probably make him way more interesting! 14:51 - lt could also tie back to Linkara's Dr. Dumb nickname, as a malfunctioning DOOMBOT obsessed with CARJACKING, does sound stupid but in a quirky fun way like Dr. Doom!!" 24:42 - "Yes, thanks to enchantments from the Enchantress, the axe had the magical ability to create dimensional rifts which allow the user to teleport!"
Oh my God we're finally getting more Thunderstrike on this show! This is going to be awesome!
Comic: "Carjacking- no one is safe!"
Me, the user of public transit: "um."
I gotta say that even though I haven't read this, it's like coming home seeing so much 90s Marvel in one single comic.
Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead would be way more entertaining if it stared Thunderstrike and Bloodaxe and fun fact there was actually famed 10th-century Viking called Eric Bloodaxe
Sparky....the nickname given to Eric by the Absorbing Man.
Forgot it was Monday, Linkara’s videos remind me thanks
JMtheSmartAlec Yeah, working 7 day weeks sometimes it's the only reminder I have.
I like how humble Eric is. It kinda makes me sad, considering now Thor Odinson claims he's not worthy of his name as well... Which is admittedly kinda stupid, it's not like he got the name after lifting the hammer, it was given to him by his parents I assume. Replace the name "Thor" with "Steve"
Jane Foster: All-New All-Different Steve
"I'm not worthy of being called 'Steve'" said Steve the Unworthy to Jane Foster Steve
Thor Odinson never said he was unworthy of his name, just his hammer, which Jane uses now. It's part of the big theme of Jason Aaron's run: What makes a god worthy?
That title card is just AMAZING, one of my favorites ever on this show!
That awkward moment when you share the same name with someone who's super-villain name is Bloodaxe.
MORE JOJO POSING YES!!
Things Relevant to nerdom and these aren’t ordinary Jojo poses. These are josuke poses!
virus Juvera i know!!! My future husband...
I'm a weird person...
AT Productions yuss
Things Relevant to nerdom I know, Josuke is like the only JoJo I have a legitimate crush on besides maybe Jonathan.
Also JoJo fans are never weird... only bizarre!
virus Juvera They’re all JoJo. JOnathan JOstar. JOseph JOstar. JOtaro kuJO. JOsuke Higashikata (okay, bastard child. But it counts because the bullies decided to call him JoJo in his introductory scene). I can’t speak for the manga, though
I'll be honest, as I listen to this...I can't help but grin at these kinds of things the comic brings up, but doesn't follow through with. The superhero insurance stuff, the suit discussion and the fact that a superhero clothes shop exists on the streets, villains with crazy getups trying to be smart and anonymous only for it to blow up in their faces...all mixed with the fact that Thunderstrike is kinda like Ben Reily, and I really like Ben Reily as a concept.
This just makes me think of some Marvel universe side-scrolling beat-em-up where you go left to right beating up street thugs and try to take out people in your hometown, but you can also retreat to superhero clothes shops to get new gear that dramatically changes how you fight. And every time you fight one boss, he has a different mask that gives him different powers and skills. That'd be AWESOME. Shame this comic only touched on these ideas. Creators, get on this!
I love these redos of your old reviews. It's so interesting to see how things change over the years. Opinions grow and change but the fundamental ideas typically stay
14:34 I said stop laughing. Sigh I wonder if this is the kind of stuff my cousin Taser face has to go through too.
Tobe Fair, Eric didn't say "Stop calling me Thor!", he asked her politely to stop
I actually like that Thunder Strike realizes he messed up & thinks about how to make up for it! Sure the comic drops it, but its a nice sentiment! Pity they didn't follow up on it as it would have been great for world building & show he's a man who takes responsibility for his mistakes!
I'm kind of surprised Dick Grayson never became Robin too. I heard the reason Barbara Gordon became Batgirl again in the nu52 was because she's the most iconic. I think this is also why she replaced Stephanie Brown in the Smallville comics (That and Dan Didio refused to let writers used Stephanie until Batman Eternal). But Dick is the most iconic Robin but he didn't revert back when the nu52 happened.
And because what happened to her in the killing joke was incredibly sexist and best left in the pasture
Speaking as someone who was around when this came out, and was working in comics, I think the real problem with the early 90s was, in order to support as many new companies and new comics, the big two had to drop standards that were already somewhat questionable in regards to the quality of their artist, especially after 4 really good artists and Rob Liefeld left to start image.
13:07 I know who that is...its the bizzaro version of Ulysses from the Lonesome Road DLC for Fallout: New Vegas.
I like Thunderstrike. He's nice.
To be fair Thunderstrike was just ... okay! There is this misconception that he was a lot worse than he was. He is viewed as a pretty rubbish character, Maybe it's a case of one mans junk is another mans treasure, but I certinaly don't think he was AS bad as people made out, but he wasnt that awesome either. Certainly a product of its time. :P
I only knew thunderstrike from a few sources being the linkara reviews of this and the Defenders and an Avengers enciclopedia of members. He seems like a very sympathetic character. Not the greatest but very interesting, aknowledging his mistakes and being a humble person (again, only have seen the linkara reviews and little more).
Thunderstrike is like Ben Reily, but with less controversy, and less popularity. i personally like him. i don't know that much. i just don't know. like him don't know why
"Maybe it's a case of one man's junk is another man's treasure but"
(immature snickering)
Smokeweed D Bear _ThunderSTRIKE_ was the product of the 1990s. The regular guy versus the corporate machine/management.
Interesting era.
The big problem I have for making certain characters simply a mantle for other people to take over is some of them aren't just a mantle. Thor is the big one. Thor isn't a superhero secret identity for people to just take over, he's a character. Unlike Superman who's really Clark Kent, Thor is his actual name. Ignoring when he changed into Donald Blake which was revealed as simply a change of memory by Odin, Thor is his own person. No secret identity. So simply making another person "Thor" like they did with Thunderstrike or present day with Jane Foster is really head scratching for me. Especially today when Thor isn't dead or missing, he just can't use the hammer anymore. But Thor isn't the hammer, Thor is Thor.
Well one, Mar-vell isn't as big a character as Thor. Two, Captain Marvel actually sounds like a superhero identity. Thor isn't.
The problem with this complaint is that both Eric Masterson and Beta Ray Bill have gone by "Thor", and that's fine, but it's suddenly a problem if Jane Foster does?
No, I have the problem with both them and Jane Foster. There is only one Thor. That's his name, not some title. His title is the God of Thunder, of which there are many. Thor is a personality, a character.
Maybe, but Storm already has her own life and character. Why do we need her to take over for anyone? At least Jane actually has a connection to Thor.
"Through gritted teeth" - the motto of 1990s comics.
"DOCTOR DUMB HAS COME TO BOOGIE!" Someone make this a meme or, better yet, put it on a T-shirt.
This is probably in the comments somewhere, but they're actually was a rise in vehicle theft in the 90s. Even though that narrator for the comic is a bit much.
Linkara doesn't read "boku no hero academia" there they explain what capes are for. They serve so that "they can take tormented little girls in their pain and suffering and cloack them in its comfort."(Mirio Togata)
p.s.
No western comic would dare to say that, even though it is cool and awesome!
Raximus3000 someone should really get a patreon sponsor for him to review the show
I really don't see why no wetern comic would dare say that.
sad. i would love to see him reviewin an anime episode while comparing it to the manga.
Also aother way to make capes cool? do what simon did with super tengen toppa gurren lagann's "cape", make it capable of morph it into a weapon.
Raximus3000 I thought you said clock them. Like beat them until they're unconscious. Which would work better with a villain or very unruly child
Dosen't Batman do that with Robins like all the time?
I've been waiting for this video review for 10 years! I'm so happy!
Yeah, this comic sucks.
5:04 5:17 7:39 14:33 LOL
A woman being assaulted in an alley and the hero says "let her go". If I had a penny for every time I saw that in fiction.....
I love all the MST clips in this
Fun fact: double-bladed axes are never used in combat-the other blade makes it so heavy it's hard to recover, and you never need that other blade-it's not like a sword, where you can thrust with the point. Some axes, dating back to the Persian sagaris, actually had spikes sticking out the back of the blade, but that's there to give you an option to use the other end if you want to stab someone with that spike (say, if they're wearing armor).
Thank you Linkara, especially with the status quo speech. Hopefully I'll stop having to bring up the fact that Kieron Gillen literally wrote an entire comic issue on the subject as his swan song to new Loki at the end of the Loki run of Journey into Mystery.
Is that the Loki known to Jersey City as "The Hipster Viking God?" When that comic showed that Loki was trying to be a good guy I was like "What? When did this happen?"
Early linkara?! What dire wizardry is this?!
1:00 well with Eddie now back as Venom, I can easily see that now. Just happy Flash could be gent Anti-Venom at least
🎶Plot convenience NEWS🎶
Please let this be a running gag, it fits so well xD
I like the helmet mask i think keeping that and using the red and blue coustume would look really good.
the narration is so much better if you read it in the voice of the narrator of Star Wars: The Clone Wars
TheGrayMysterious oh man I can't unhear it!
Oh god! I like that show, but the narrator is so cheezy. It's like something out of 50's superhero serials
Dalton Williams Well when the voice of Yoda in that show decides he’s had enough of the awkward dialect, I too would expect him to let loose a little in the openings.
Dalton Williams You're actually kinda close there. It's supposed to be reminiscent of war news reels shown before movies in the 40s.
It is pretty similar in tone.
I think she was a fan of both captain America and spider-man so she made the costumes for show pieces for the shop.
Lol gotta give the creators credit on creating a stereotypical 90's ultrabuff manly character and then making it a woman. Kudos.
21:15 He'll be fine, but I'm not so sure about the airplanes whose turbines might swallow him up.
25:33- I have a pet peeve when characters in comic books (as well as comic book movies and shows) refer to their costumes as "uniforms"
For some characters like Captain America it makes sense, but for characters like Superman and Spider-Man, it annoys me. How many people do you see wear uniforms as brightly colored as a lot of superhero suits.
3:58 Ok so Linkara is Josuke (aka best JoJo) then is Thunderstrike Okuyasu? I don’t know.
1TrulyMad nah those are josuke poses
They're both Jouske.
Now that I have a better look yep, it’s Josuke’s last pose.
Linkara is doing one of Josukes most famous and marketed poses, whereas Thunder Strike is doing Josukes last pose in part 4 (at least in the anime adaptation, I can’t speak for the manga). PS Josuke for life.
KILLER QUEEN HAS TOUCHED THIS TH-cam COMMENT
One of my favorite stories from Astro City involves a writer at a small comic book company and some of the issues they deal with in a world where superheroes exist. Including having the superheroes show up at their office to complain, a supervillian attacking the editor because they made it look like he was a racist and at the end of the comic cosmic powers destroying the building she worked at.
i really need to read astro city. i know is written by one of the comic book olympians and best writers kurt busiek (from the kin of grant morrison, scott synder, geoff johns, alan moore, stan lee, jack kirby, gail simone and whoever is currently written black panther, i heard he is really good)
Ta-Nehisi Coates. And his run is very enjoyable.
I'd recommend them. They sometimes took a bit of a different take on superheroes than you ussually see. One story dealt with ageing superheroes. Another called The Dark Ages dealt with superheroes becoming a lot darker in the 70's. One of my favourites was a collection of short stories of regular people dealing with superheroes which was really good.
thats another story that convinced me too read astro city. it even won an eisner, and is contnung in the issue 50. Also. the covers are always done by ALEX MOTHERFUCKING MASTER ROSS (I really like alex ross' artwork, even though his batman looks sometimes weird. and only bats)
"a supervillain attacking the editor because they made him look like a racist"
And just like that I have this wonderful mental image of Doctor Doom lounging on his throne reading a comic book before lurching forward in shock and saying "What's this?!". Dynamically, he launches to his feet and, holding his comic book aloft, proclaims "I am DOOM! I EQUALLY HATE EVERYONE WHO ARE NOT NAMED REED RICHARDS! I SHALL TEACH THESE PUNY WRITERS TO FEAR THE WRATH OF *DOOM!"*
Am I the only one who cracks up at...
DOCTOR DUMB HAS COME TO BOOGIE!!!!
26:45 I wouldn't mention Phoenixes in the Marvel universe. they usually lead to bad days
Bloodaxe:Where is Dumb?
Have you looked around? It's all over this comic!
What was with that song used over the title card? It had pretty much the same chords and nearly the same rhythm as Start Me Up by The Rolling Stones, like it doesn't sound like a coincidence, but upon looking it up, this song came out in 1978 and Start Me Up came out in 1981.
I'm guessing Linkara used to be the angry comic book nerd in 2007.
Misterprickly I agree in your assessment of his work BUT not being able to produce a quality comic does not negate his work as a comic reviewer.
Misterprickly hmmm... I have to ask, why are you here?
Not to be that guy, but you don't have to be good at drawing and writing to say that other writing and drawing is crap. If you're bad at something of course you can see when someone is as bad as you at it...lmao
Misterprickly ah ok then. So you are a pathetic person with nothing better to do with his time than watch content creators on TH-cam you don't even enjoy. You must have a riveting life.
Actually compared to his first comic Linkara seems to have improved tremendously in the writing department to the point he actually produces some pretty neat stories like the Missing No. for example.
I was perfectly content with Beta Ray Bill. He at least proved himself worthy you take up the mantle. But this... this is too much. Does everyone just get a nigh invincible enchanted weapon?
Papa Taurean Eric Masterson proved himself worthy when he was the stand-in for Thor.
what gets me is that linkara has been reviewing comics for 12+ years and yet still hasnt gotten the same mainstream attention like comics explained and comicstorian. no diserespect to those guys at all, but linkara actually has a comicbook storyline in his videos and does a phenomenal job of not just explaining whats going on but giving his own personal opinion of the comic. I guess thats the difference between reviewing the comic and just reading the trade to us.
My guess is that the owner made the captain america and spider-man coustumes and put them on manquines for publicty.
23:08
Was that Phelous?
I actually had to pause from laughing so much at how the boss of the car jackers looks. XD
Young justice (the tv show) has nightwing as nightwing! Also a black aqualad becomes full aquaman, weird but I love the black aqualad so perfectly good change in my book. Wally West was also degraded to sidekick and died crisis on infinite earth's style, it's not clear if he's getting better and becoming full flash or permanently dead but him being a sidekick works because most of the characters are sidekicks and his death is VERY well handled with massive long-term storytelling with other characters needing to come to terms with it (the show is VERY concerned with character's psychology and it just works).
Also thorsaurus should totally be a dinosaur thor combo
I think they're just costumes for people who want to come in and dress up at as Spider-Man or Captain America which is the simplest explanation and the one that is correct
5:00 "PANDA WATCH! The mood is tense! I have been on some serious, serious reports but nothing quite like this!"
You missed an opportunity Linkara: playing "thunderstruck" at the title card ^^"
I always found it interesting that his son was the reason the Avengers got together in Earth 982
Thumbnail looks like it's shouting "Thunderstrike! NO!"
I'm sick to death of people using the Edna Mode argument. As if her word was gospel