I hate it when people intentionally put "Honour Mode" in their video titles but don't mention all the differences in Honour mode from other versions of the game... At 8:35 if you take 5 levels in Warlock for Deepened Pact as a lvl 5+ class that already has the Extra Attack feature *you will NOT get another attack. It doesn't stack in Honour mode.*
Not to mention right off the rip he recommends tavern brawler and that also got heavily nerfed for honor mode… I’m guessing they haven’t had time to check the updates and needed to pump out content 😕
@@common_undead I’ve heard of a lot of people who main martials opting out of using it for other feats. But I don’t play Monks just what I’ve heard second hand after the nerf! I could be wrong though.
6/6 Sorcadin is a lot better than Padlock in Honour Mode. Also, the extra attacks do not stack in Honour mode. Fire Sorcerer with one level into lock for Hex, deals crazy damage, even more than the Tavern Brawler builds.
You could also just go 12 sorcerer and get the extra feat to pick magic initiate warlock for hex… not sure if it gives you anything else on that 12th level tho
One thing to note on build 6, if you want your bard to be casting control spells like hypnotic, hold person/monster, etc, those are *all* concentration spells, meaning they won't be able to simultaneously cast haste. All good spells, but breaking haste mid-combat can get you killed 😅
That's why I feel like haste as a spell is very risky and maybe not worth it. Having your concentration broken while hasting can be very risky. Definitely recommend to use potions of speed, because they don't rely on concentration and because with proper positioning you can haste 2-3 allies with one pot.
this is why I hoard a lot of potion of speed and Haste Spores. for me tho, haste spore is a better haste option due to no lethargic status when Hastened is gone.
@@Kostasdxi Haste is just kind of bad now other than the movement speed and bonus AC. Yes, you get one additional attack, but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be, which also makes Sorcerers much less "mandatory" as they previously were to Twin it. Ironically, the best use for Haste is no longer martials anymore, but either a Warlock (or Sorlock) or the Sorcerer themselves to cast an extra spell per turn.
Not to sound needy. But for this or possibly future videos could the time stamps have the class “name” like how there’s throwbarian, dual wield hand bows, etc? Just would make it nice being able to go back and forth when looking at builds.
For the tavern brawler monk (first multiclass), it's much better to go 9 into monk and 3 into thief rogue. An extra feat is not worth the cost of giving up the monk level 9 ki resonation abilities, which for me are the whole reason to go monk. It's basically a powerful AOE that can wipe out entire groups if you're detonating multiple resonating kis at once. There is no level 12 feat you could pick up that is anywhere near as valuable as this.
I've actually never understood in what circumstance to use ki resonation. I am just used to focusing on the boss and use flurry of blows (twice) and then, if they are still alive, take my chance to stun them so that I can repeat next turn. Going around using single punches on people sound like such a counterintuative thing to do. Can you please elaborate how a "normal" turn goes for you? @@jimking8342
doing 2 sorc / 6 wizard tank build (put the rest into wizard to 10 after) based on the one RageGaming did in a previous video, where you cheese armor of agathys and you basically become unkillable in honour mode with warding bond. I got 2 sorc instead of 1 sorc 1 cleric like Rage suggests, cause you can cast extend metamagic with the door/chest lock spell to buff the hell out of your arcane wards, and then you want low AC to proc armor of agathys as much as possible (just use a 10 AC robe) with only 10 dex
If you run a dwarf you can (patially) tank Dex and pump Wis for saves due to them getting a Medium Armor Prof racially. This was my PMC for my first Honour run. I was surprised that Sorc wasn't mentioned at all on this list.
Uploader clearly didn't do their research in their rush to put out yet another "best" video. Extra attack with Warlock doesn't stack with the Paladin extra attack in Honor Mode. With TB Throw, to actually optimize you would be using STR elixirs. After you have access to them, your stats should be something like 8 STR, 16 DEX, 17 CON (+1 TB) and 14 Wis. You'd also grab the dual wield feat so that you can always use your bonus actions even when Frenzy is not available and put your main damage weapon in the off hand. You can either go EK on the character, or just have a camp EK bind the weapon for you and stay Champion. The only weapons that you really benefit from though are those that have the "thrown" property on them. Otherwise, they just get treated as "objects" and only do 1d4 blunt damage. But anyway, the truly "best" (as in strongest/optimal) builds are: TB Throw, 2 Fighter 10/Sword control ranged Bard that guarantees all CC will land (you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GRAB HASTE on this build. Complete waste since most of your best CC spells require concentration. You get Command and Counterspell from your secrets too), the 2 Paladin 10/Bard variant that is similar but is more focused on melee crits, the TB 8 Monk/4 Thief, 1 Warlock/11 Sorcerer (Fire) control build that also does the highest single target damage in the game, 2 Tempest Cleric/10 Storm Sorcerer and Titanstring 5 Gloom/3 Ass/4 Champ. Also, I wouldn't recommend respeccing at level 6 to get 3/3. Tried it, and losing the extra attack isn't worth it in the early game. By the time you first enter Act 2, you can be one fourth a level away from level 8 anyway, and this is when the build truly comes online.
I think sword bard assassin is better than gloomstalker. Flourish is way more powerful with assassin than just added damage you can even get 2 lvls of fighter in for action surge and if your dark urge you can just go invisible again. It requires more lvls to get sword bards extra attack but even split assassin 3 and bard 3 still lets you have the returned action with flourish.
I used other weapons for my thrown weapon build. Like the Sussar Dagger. Hell. All daggers have the thrown property and some have some really good on-hit effects. That’s not even taking into consideration the other spears like the Vision of the Absolute, which can blind a target on hit. I will take those over the Returning Spear on my Eldritch Knight.
1) warlock pack get nerfed on honor mode, it don't stack with melee extra attack, dinlock can't do 3 attacks per round any more. smite is also nerfed a lot. I can't say if dinlock or paladin (multiclass or not) itself worth it. 2) bard can be the frontface of the party b'cos of jack of all trades, is that the best? I doubt it very much. YOU CAN'T BARDIC INSPIRATE YOURSELF. 3) for berserker thrown build, if you're not Dwarf (like if you play Karlach). you need to self-disguise to make use of the Dwarvish Throwner. it's the best weapon for many reasons. so the best build is 8/3/1 berserker/thief/sorcerer. Shield and Fog (or shockwave) are the bonus. 4) if you really want to cheese your way for honor mode, you got to try Hamarhraft builds. It's like cheating. Really you can solo everything except Ansur (it immune to thunder damage).
It isnt starting gear, hes respeccing a late game character. He just got the gear by playing. The skeleton looking dark plate armor is the armor you get from ketheric thorm fight in act 2, the armor the gloomstalker is wearing is some variation of drow armor with a drow hood (there are a few versions which look very similar with different names). I assume ur talking about one of those two since most people like those a lot.
Developer A: "Have we made it clear enough that tavern brawler monk is super powerful?" Developer B: "Of course not! Let's also add plenty of strength elixir to the game! But only for strength, no elixir for any other ability score!" Developer A: "And how much strength should this elixir set to?" Developer B: "YES!"
No mention of Radiant Orbs barbarian. No mention of abjuration Wizard spiking armor of agathys. A Lore bard 6/wizard 6 can achieve the same effects as the necro build with the same items, better proficiencies and magical secrets to make your choice of spells, 'Most powerful multiclass builds possible'. The builds in your previous videos render your own video false.
Do you ever credit the redditors you are getting ypur information from? The last 2 Paladin Builds were heavily influenced if not balantly copy pasted from prestigious juice341 who posted these on the BG3Builds subreddit recently.
duel handcrossbow ranger 4 bard 6 fighter 2 two attacks per turn and 3 fighing styles archery defence amd two weapon dex at 20 asi and ethels hair sharpshooter bard gloves ring and cloak of protetion evasive shoes and armor of agility = 30 ac and 5 slashing flurish per short rest
Any reason to choose ranger over rogue? An extra bonus action seems more important than defence fighting style, espcieally because fighter allows you to wear any armor and you are never gonna be in front lines.
@OsamaZahid308 The Ranger gets Dread Ambusher. A free, no action opening shot that adds an extra d8 to the damage. It also adds +3 initiative and an extra 10ft/3m movement. Yes, I do like the extra fighting style, too. Two Weapon Fighting from Bard, Archery from Ranger, and Defence from Fighter. Two Weapon and Defence give +1AC each. One option is using the medium armour that doesn't affect your DEX modifier, that's +5AC instead of +2. With +7AC on top of medium armour and whatever else from other gear pieces plus Two Weapon, getting caught out in a melee battle isn't a problem. The Thief's extra bonus action and cunning actions are also great. Of course, it comes down to personal preference, play how you want and all that. Over a couple of rounds the Rogue extra attack will out damage the burst opener of the Ranger, but without the extra initiative and movement. The Ranger will also get an elemental resistance. Instead of an extra proficiency, you could also also take Find Familiar as a ritual, use a raven to scout and blind. Again, personal preference, they're both viable. I like the extra bit of survivability for Honour Mode, especially as it doesn't take away from the ability to kill first and quickly, which is usually the best defence. Edit: Changed text block to paragraphs
I had the hardest time figuring out my 4th Character. There seems to be just enough awesome gear to stack up 3 characters. So as my 4th Character I'm currently running a 6 Fiend Warlock (pact of the blade naturally) 6 Battlemaster Fighter. Fiend gives you Command, Hold Person, and Hypnotic Pattern. Got both great Crowd Control and Nasty Melee damage all in 1. I stacked her up with all of the Reverberation gear, since all the other great gear is on other characters. Band of the Mystic Scoundrel is amazing on this build = Smack an enemy with Charge-bound Warhammer + Battlemaster ability, cast some crowd control with bonus action, continue smacking the baddie. When crowd control not required, just Hex and wack. (not playing Honor Mode btw, but probably would still run with it if I was)
Titanstring is not good on honor mode with the changes imo. The Bow of the Bashee is better, as its like a heavy crossbow unless my game is bugged. Also for open hand monk you want 9 monk 3 thief because 9 monk gives a higher damage per hit than 8 monk.
your 10 swords bard, 2 paladin split would have been served better as 6 swords bard, 2 paladin 4 storm sorcerer, basically gets everything the other one got, plus bonus action crowd control, flying after a smite without attacks of opportunity, and up to 46 ac with shield reaction.
I prefer oath of vengence as a more damage oriented version with vow of enmity and crits, 6 paladin plus 6 sorcerer wild magic, now you can twin cast haste, have lots of smite charges, aura of protection and wild magic for extra utility.
Haste is nerved in Honor Mode, and breaking haste concentration gets you killed -insanely- easy. I'd always recommend just using haste spores/Potion of speed. Aura of Warding is also not to be underestimated, halfing spell damage is just quite insane tbh.
@@1ordTakeo Turn off carmic dice, have war caster - no concentraion break, even if it gets broken - I never had any problems. I use potions only when I know there will plenty of paralyze
A build that starts as a Paladin and then switches to something else, most especially to a Warlock, while allowed, is thematically horrible. Where is the honour of a Paladin if he just allows himself to be controlled to a degree by an Old One, Archfey or worst of all, a Fiend. These combos are a terrible mix if you are roleplaying and personally, I'd rule the Paladin should become fallen if they then switched to a Fiend Warlock. If you don't care a jot about the dichotomy, well, just play anyhow you want - Your game, your rules. There is far less of a problem switching TO a Paladin from something else (though if you went Warlock first, it's still an awkward combo).
For the throwing brawler build you can go dark dwarf to have access to the returning hammer with bonus damage against tall creatures and give yourself a damage boost via their racial embiggen. (and stealth can be useful too ofc)
It's a bit Multi attribute dependent as you'll want to have decent Con, Wis, and Cha scores and probably decent DeX too for medium armor. Really depends on what spells you'll be using mainly and you'll have to either be Hexblade or use a Finese weapon so you can dump Strength and Intelligence.
Bardadin is all around cc, with the correct gear you wont even be damaged. Pal6/Sor6 is for dps. If you need a visual proof check my vid killing orin in 10 sec with bardadin.
Personally, I wouldn't go 10 bard in bardadin. You can multiclass into rogue and get a second bonus action. With some choice end game gear from act 3, you can pretty much 1 shot bosses
Same thing with Gloomstalker Rogue with the 2 level fighter dip. dual attack + Dual attack / Action surge to repeat are 8 hits + the Gloomstalker bonus attack at the start of each combat, and free initiative. Stealth and Invis as a bonus action.
WTF? Really WTF? Those builds are nothing compared to 1sorcerer+1cleric+10abjuration_wizard, they are just weaker. I am soloing dishonor mode without ilithid powers and without compromising "good" gameplay with that build very easily. On the other hand, I tried many of the mentioned builds (I mean I came up with them mostly so I deeply understand them) and they are simply weaker. Maybe answering why dishonor mode? Since there are honor speedruns in 35 minutes, it's more about having fun and exploring the most of the game on single playthrough with the ability to load (single) savefile. But on (non-speedrun) honor, the gap must be even wider since non-wizard non-sorcerer classes can't use enhanced_leap+feather_fall combo since the beginning (which is way stronger than misty_step..), non-agility based builds can't shoot everyone from far without melee combat and don't have the huge armor advantage. Also all other ritual spells: detect_thought, speak_with_dead and longstrider are super useful. Also minor illusion is a must for simple playthrough to separate groups of enemies. Also having all cantrips helps a lot with enemies that take more damage from specific elements. I am also lazy to long-rest, so this build having maximized agility and armor means you can defeat everyone except bosses without the need to skip those slow animations before long-rest. Also lockpicking, disarming etc. is super easy with maximized agility and guidance. Also guidance and resistance are super useful. Really I completely disagree that the mentioned builds are even comparable to abjuration wizard. The only hard moment in the first act was Spectator, since he has fly, lot of damage, lot of disables and I think he can't be locked anywhere and shot down. But he's optional and you can revisit him later anyway. I did not finish the game with that build yet since it gets super easy and boring later on, but end of second act is way easier than end of first act already.
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Multiclass 1 - Tavern Brawler Monk/Thief
Multiclass 2 - Thrower Barbarian/Thief/Fighter
Multiclass 3 - Sharpshooter crossbower
Multiclass 4 - Gloomstalker Assassin - Longbow
Multiclass 5 - Lockadin Paladin/Warlock
Multiclass 6 - Ranged Bard/Fighter/Wizard
Multiclass 7 - Melee Bard/Paladin
THANK YOU! It's so annoying how it isn't labeled! lol
Good job with this. The creator should have put this information description and timestamps.
I hate it when people intentionally put "Honour Mode" in their video titles but don't mention all the differences in Honour mode from other versions of the game...
At 8:35 if you take 5 levels in Warlock for Deepened Pact as a lvl 5+ class that already has the Extra Attack feature *you will NOT get another attack. It doesn't stack in Honour mode.*
Not to mention right off the rip he recommends tavern brawler and that also got heavily nerfed for honor mode… I’m guessing they haven’t had time to check the updates and needed to pump out content 😕
Cry about it
@@TheDashingInsanityxTavern Brawler is still easily the strongest feat in the game for martial characters.
@@common_undead I’ve heard of a lot of people who main martials opting out of using it for other feats. But I don’t play Monks just what I’ve heard second hand after the nerf! I could be wrong though.
Your multiclass build 5, warlock extra attack is no longer stacked on top of other martial class extra attack in honour mode just fyi.
Thought they fixed that?
@@Sugoiunlimitedonly on honour mode, they let you cheese unopposed on every other difficulty
@@junewilkerson2349 oh wow, thanks for that! I’m still pretty new to it all
My warlock is not getting an extra attack. I'm fiend and blade. Level 5. Thought I am supposed to have one. Did I pick something wrong?
@chrisbradford881 you need to bind your pact weapon after long rest to gain the bonuses to atack plus extra attack
6/6 Sorcadin is a lot better than Padlock in Honour Mode. Also, the extra attacks do not stack in Honour mode. Fire Sorcerer with one level into lock for Hex, deals crazy damage, even more than the Tavern Brawler builds.
You could also just go 12 sorcerer and get the extra feat to pick magic initiate warlock for hex… not sure if it gives you anything else on that 12th level tho
One thing to note on build 6, if you want your bard to be casting control spells like hypnotic, hold person/monster, etc, those are *all* concentration spells, meaning they won't be able to simultaneously cast haste.
All good spells, but breaking haste mid-combat can get you killed 😅
That's why I feel like haste as a spell is very risky and maybe not worth it. Having your concentration broken while hasting can be very risky. Definitely recommend to use potions of speed, because they don't rely on concentration and because with proper positioning you can haste 2-3 allies with one pot.
this is why I hoard a lot of potion of speed and Haste Spores.
for me tho, haste spore is a better haste option due to no lethargic status when Hastened is gone.
@@Kostasdxi Haste is just kind of bad now other than the movement speed and bonus AC. Yes, you get one additional attack, but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be, which also makes Sorcerers much less "mandatory" as they previously were to Twin it. Ironically, the best use for Haste is no longer martials anymore, but either a Warlock (or Sorlock) or the Sorcerer themselves to cast an extra spell per turn.
Not to sound needy. But for this or possibly future videos could the time stamps have the class “name” like how there’s throwbarian, dual wield hand bows, etc? Just would make it nice being able to go back and forth when looking at builds.
Im having fun with my 2 Fighter, 2 Warlock, 8 Sorc. Firing off 12 Eldritch Blasts at 1d10+12 dmg each is pretty sweet.
For the tavern brawler monk (first multiclass), it's much better to go 9 into monk and 3 into thief rogue. An extra feat is not worth the cost of giving up the monk level 9 ki resonation abilities, which for me are the whole reason to go monk. It's basically a powerful AOE that can wipe out entire groups if you're detonating multiple resonating kis at once. There is no level 12 feat you could pick up that is anywhere near as valuable as this.
I agree. The extra feat may not be worth it because lvl 9 monk abilities are insane.
Plus d8 attack dice and the ability to hold weapons as stat sticks since you can still punch with ki resonation punch.
Is Duellist's Prerrogative a good weapon for this build? You can use the extra reaction for a punch
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I've actually never understood in what circumstance to use ki resonation. I am just used to focusing on the boss and use flurry of blows (twice) and then, if they are still alive, take my chance to stun them so that I can repeat next turn. Going around using single punches on people sound like such a counterintuative thing to do. Can you please elaborate how a "normal" turn goes for you? @@jimking8342
doing 2 sorc / 6 wizard tank build (put the rest into wizard to 10 after) based on the one RageGaming did in a previous video, where you cheese armor of agathys and you basically become unkillable in honour mode with warding bond.
I got 2 sorc instead of 1 sorc 1 cleric like Rage suggests, cause you can cast extend metamagic with the door/chest lock spell to buff the hell out of your arcane wards, and then you want low AC to proc armor of agathys as much as possible (just use a 10 AC robe) with only 10 dex
If you run a dwarf you can (patially) tank Dex and pump Wis for saves due to them getting a Medium Armor Prof racially. This was my PMC for my first Honour run. I was surprised that Sorc wasn't mentioned at all on this list.
Really enjoy your videos. Thanks for the guides
Uploader clearly didn't do their research in their rush to put out yet another "best" video. Extra attack with Warlock doesn't stack with the Paladin extra attack in Honor Mode.
With TB Throw, to actually optimize you would be using STR elixirs. After you have access to them, your stats should be something like 8 STR, 16 DEX, 17 CON (+1 TB) and 14 Wis. You'd also grab the dual wield feat so that you can always use your bonus actions even when Frenzy is not available and put your main damage weapon in the off hand. You can either go EK on the character, or just have a camp EK bind the weapon for you and stay Champion. The only weapons that you really benefit from though are those that have the "thrown" property on them. Otherwise, they just get treated as "objects" and only do 1d4 blunt damage.
But anyway, the truly "best" (as in strongest/optimal) builds are: TB Throw, 2 Fighter 10/Sword control ranged Bard that guarantees all CC will land (you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GRAB HASTE on this build. Complete waste since most of your best CC spells require concentration. You get Command and Counterspell from your secrets too), the 2 Paladin 10/Bard variant that is similar but is more focused on melee crits, the TB 8 Monk/4 Thief, 1 Warlock/11 Sorcerer (Fire) control build that also does the highest single target damage in the game, 2 Tempest Cleric/10 Storm Sorcerer and Titanstring 5 Gloom/3 Ass/4 Champ.
Also, I wouldn't recommend respeccing at level 6 to get 3/3. Tried it, and losing the extra attack isn't worth it in the early game. By the time you first enter Act 2, you can be one fourth a level away from level 8 anyway, and this is when the build truly comes online.
Hi I’m a week late to this comment but do you have a video reference for the fire sorc build? As a new player I’m interested in seeing the damage
@@balenciaqua Can't link, but Google r/BG3Builds Honor Mode 11/1 Fire Sorlock. Also look for r/BG3Builds Party Building Templates.
Is SorLock no long a great build in the game? Last I played was a year ago and I loved that build.
Didn't they fix warlock extra attack stacking with normal extra attack last patch?
They did for honour mode which this video is supposedly giving builds for
Yes they did
My favorite of yours was the cc control build with cleric and sorcerer using command. That build made the Raphael fight a joke
I think sword bard assassin is better than gloomstalker. Flourish is way more powerful with assassin than just added damage you can even get 2 lvls of fighter in for action surge and if your dark urge you can just go invisible again. It requires more lvls to get sword bards extra attack but even split assassin 3 and bard 3 still lets you have the returned action with flourish.
I used other weapons for my thrown weapon build. Like the Sussar Dagger. Hell. All daggers have the thrown property and some have some really good on-hit effects. That’s not even taking into consideration the other spears like the Vision of the Absolute, which can blind a target on hit. I will take those over the Returning Spear on my Eldritch Knight.
Why don't people call the paladin warlock combo the padlock
LOVE your videos! Thank you so much!
Great work!
Assassin gloomstalker is game breaking in honour mode once you get level 6 for special arrows
1) warlock pack get nerfed on honor mode, it don't stack with melee extra attack, dinlock can't do 3 attacks per round any more. smite is also nerfed a lot. I can't say if dinlock or paladin (multiclass or not) itself worth it.
2) bard can be the frontface of the party b'cos of jack of all trades, is that the best? I doubt it very much. YOU CAN'T BARDIC INSPIRATE YOURSELF.
3) for berserker thrown build, if you're not Dwarf (like if you play Karlach). you need to self-disguise to make use of the Dwarvish Throwner. it's the best weapon for many reasons. so the best build is 8/3/1 berserker/thief/sorcerer. Shield and Fog (or shockwave) are the bonus.
4) if you really want to cheese your way for honor mode, you got to try Hamarhraft builds. It's like cheating. Really you can solo everything except Ansur (it immune to thunder damage).
What mod are you running for the starting gear? Those sets look awesome!
It isnt starting gear, hes respeccing a late game character. He just got the gear by playing. The skeleton looking dark plate armor is the armor you get from ketheric thorm fight in act 2, the armor the gloomstalker is wearing is some variation of drow armor with a drow hood (there are a few versions which look very similar with different names). I assume ur talking about one of those two since most people like those a lot.
A control build with no resilient constitution or war caster or at least a proficiency in constitution is doomed to fail.
What is the robe piece you have equipped to your monk for the first build?
Developer A: "Have we made it clear enough that tavern brawler monk is super powerful?"
Developer B: "Of course not! Let's also add plenty of strength elixir to the game! But only for strength, no elixir for any other ability score!"
Developer A: "And how much strength should this elixir set to?"
Developer B: "YES!"
As a paladin lvl 6 preparing before the battle,I killed Neer in one turn on tactician
No mention of Radiant Orbs barbarian. No mention of abjuration Wizard spiking armor of agathys. A Lore bard 6/wizard 6 can achieve the same effects as the necro build with the same items, better proficiencies and magical secrets to make your choice of spells, 'Most powerful multiclass builds possible'. The builds in your previous videos render your own video false.
I think the builds from video are not even comparable to abjuration wizard.
Do you ever credit the redditors you are getting ypur information from? The last 2 Paladin Builds were heavily influenced if not balantly copy pasted from prestigious juice341 who posted these on the BG3Builds subreddit recently.
The ice focus tank abjuration wizard / warlock is pretty solid. Not sure how usable it is early game though
duel handcrossbow ranger 4 bard 6 fighter 2 two attacks per turn and 3 fighing styles archery defence amd two weapon dex at 20 asi and ethels hair sharpshooter bard gloves ring and cloak of protetion evasive shoes and armor of agility = 30 ac and 5 slashing flurish per short rest
I prefer 5/5/2, getting the extra attack from Ranger as well as Misty Step. Other than that, same here for the Crossbow build
Any reason to choose ranger over rogue? An extra bonus action seems more important than defence fighting style, espcieally because fighter allows you to wear any armor and you are never gonna be in front lines.
@@OsamaZahid308 chose ranger for the fighting style
If you go with 2 hxbow thief seems much better than gloom stalker. I'd go gloom with a longbow though.
@OsamaZahid308
The Ranger gets Dread Ambusher. A free, no action opening shot that adds an extra d8 to the damage. It also adds +3 initiative and an extra 10ft/3m movement. Yes, I do like the extra fighting style, too.
Two Weapon Fighting from Bard, Archery from Ranger, and Defence from Fighter. Two Weapon and Defence give +1AC each. One option is using the medium armour that doesn't affect your DEX modifier, that's +5AC instead of +2. With +7AC on top of medium armour and whatever else from other gear pieces plus Two Weapon, getting caught out in a melee battle isn't a problem.
The Thief's extra bonus action and cunning actions are also great. Of course, it comes down to personal preference, play how you want and all that. Over a couple of rounds the Rogue extra attack will out damage the burst opener of the Ranger, but without the extra initiative and movement.
The Ranger will also get an elemental resistance. Instead of an extra proficiency, you could also also take Find Familiar as a ritual, use a raven to scout and blind. Again, personal preference, they're both viable. I like the extra bit of survivability for Honour Mode, especially as it doesn't take away from the ability to kill first and quickly, which is usually the best defence.
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I had the hardest time figuring out my 4th Character. There seems to be just enough awesome gear to stack up 3 characters. So as my 4th Character I'm currently running a 6 Fiend Warlock (pact of the blade naturally) 6 Battlemaster Fighter. Fiend gives you Command, Hold Person, and Hypnotic Pattern. Got both great Crowd Control and Nasty Melee damage all in 1. I stacked her up with all of the Reverberation gear, since all the other great gear is on other characters. Band of the Mystic Scoundrel is amazing on this build = Smack an enemy with Charge-bound Warhammer + Battlemaster ability, cast some crowd control with bonus action, continue smacking the baddie. When crowd control not required, just Hex and wack.
(not playing Honor Mode btw, but probably would still run with it if I was)
Titanstring is not good on honor mode with the changes imo. The Bow of the Bashee is better, as its like a heavy crossbow unless my game is bugged. Also for open hand monk you want 9 monk 3 thief because 9 monk gives a higher damage per hit than 8 monk.
You guys do this with every game. “best most Op blah blah” until tomorrow when you make a new video with different colored letters It’s gotten so old.
your 10 swords bard, 2 paladin split would have been served better as 6 swords bard, 2 paladin 4 storm sorcerer, basically gets everything the other one got, plus bonus action crowd control, flying after a smite without attacks of opportunity, and up to 46 ac with shield reaction.
How does Sorc end up giving that?
I prefer oath of vengence as a more damage oriented version with vow of enmity and crits, 6 paladin plus 6 sorcerer wild magic, now you can twin cast haste, have lots of smite charges, aura of protection and wild magic for extra utility.
Haste is nerved in Honor Mode, and breaking haste concentration gets you killed -insanely- easy.
I'd always recommend just using haste spores/Potion of speed.
Aura of Warding is also not to be underestimated, halfing spell damage is just quite insane tbh.
@@1ordTakeo Turn off carmic dice, have war caster - no concentraion break, even if it gets broken - I never had any problems. I use potions only when I know there will plenty of paralyze
Assassin+gloomstalker or assassin+ monk?
Battling through honour mode; this will be gold, thx
Can u give more detils on weapon style select on 10lvl Bard/ 2lvl Paladin?
Does the 2HW work with Bard florsh attacks? In Paladin/Bard?
Absolutely does and probably should be the weapon type you do use, grab Great Weapon Master as your first feat and then savage attacker as second
This is so funny))
Lvl9 monk gives you enormous amount of power. Much more than 3-d feat..
A build that starts as a Paladin and then switches to something else, most especially to a Warlock, while allowed, is thematically horrible. Where is the honour of a Paladin if he just allows himself to be controlled to a degree by an Old One, Archfey or worst of all, a Fiend. These combos are a terrible mix if you are roleplaying and personally, I'd rule the Paladin should become fallen if they then switched to a Fiend Warlock. If you don't care a jot about the dichotomy, well, just play anyhow you want - Your game, your rules. There is far less of a problem switching TO a Paladin from something else (though if you went Warlock first, it's still an awkward combo).
Id say for the throwing build just take the best weapon uou can get and weapon bond it
Has to be a weapon with throwing flag. Would be nice if it would work with greatswords.
Also you don’t get extra attack from the haste action
Ngl would have like to see more than how many times you can put rouge with another class
Ayo bars at the end tho
Question if Guil, explodes at chapter 2 to kill the 3 and the brain. Do you get the gold die?
nope
Why would you call it lockadin and not Padlock?
For the throwing brawler build you can go dark dwarf to have access to the returning hammer with bonus damage against tall creatures and give yourself a damage boost via their racial embiggen.
(and stealth can be useful too ofc)
eldrich knight can get disguise self and become dwarf and still use the hammer with benefits.
Does a cleric warlock build work well like in table top
It's a bit Multi attribute dependent as you'll want to have decent Con, Wis, and Cha scores and probably decent DeX too for medium armor. Really depends on what spells you'll be using mainly and you'll have to either be Hexblade or use a Finese weapon so you can dump Strength and Intelligence.
Paladin 6 Sorcerer 6 is a lot stronger than the bardadin you showed.
Bardadin is all around cc, with the correct gear you wont even be damaged. Pal6/Sor6 is for dps. If you need a visual proof check my vid killing orin in 10 sec with bardadin.
The bard build whif 1 sorc and 1 fighter for control how should i start whif the stats?
8 - 16 -14 - 10 -10 - 16 or 8 - 16 -14 - 8 -10 - 17 if you wanna use hag hair for +1 Charisma
No sorlock?
Personally, I wouldn't go 10 bard in bardadin. You can multiclass into rogue and get a second bonus action. With some choice end game gear from act 3, you can pretty much 1 shot bosses
No Bard/Rogue ! My my !
For multiclass 2, the thrower barbarian: defense fighting style only gives +1 to AC while wearing armor. Armor ruins raging as a barbarian.
God why this game has to be so big? There is no chance that I could finished it with all playstyles and every ending.. 😑😅😅😅
Dude, I'm not gonna watch your video just because of the way you labeled your chapters. Better luck next time.
Dude, who cares skim the chapter to see what the build is lazy keyboard warrior
Best hand cross bow has to be:
6 fighter
6 sword bard
You get 8 main hand shots on turn 1 with +1d8 to hit each short rest.
Same thing with Gloomstalker Rogue with the 2 level fighter dip.
dual attack + Dual attack / Action surge to repeat are 8 hits + the Gloomstalker bonus attack at the start of each combat, and free initiative. Stealth and Invis as a bonus action.
6 Sword Bard/ 4 Thief Rogue/ 2 Fighter is better as you get 10 attacks in total.
All weapon/unarmed users . . . Sad
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WTF? Really WTF?
Those builds are nothing compared to 1sorcerer+1cleric+10abjuration_wizard, they are just weaker.
I am soloing dishonor mode without ilithid powers and without compromising "good" gameplay with that build very easily.
On the other hand, I tried many of the mentioned builds (I mean I came up with them mostly so I deeply understand them) and they are simply weaker.
Maybe answering why dishonor mode? Since there are honor speedruns in 35 minutes, it's more about having fun and exploring the most of the game on single playthrough with the ability to load (single) savefile.
But on (non-speedrun) honor, the gap must be even wider since non-wizard non-sorcerer classes can't use enhanced_leap+feather_fall combo since the beginning (which is way stronger than misty_step..), non-agility based builds can't shoot everyone from far without melee combat and don't have the huge armor advantage. Also all other ritual spells: detect_thought, speak_with_dead and longstrider are super useful.
Also minor illusion is a must for simple playthrough to separate groups of enemies.
Also having all cantrips helps a lot with enemies that take more damage from specific elements.
I am also lazy to long-rest, so this build having maximized agility and armor means you can defeat everyone except bosses without the need to skip those slow animations before long-rest.
Also lockpicking, disarming etc. is super easy with maximized agility and guidance.
Also guidance and resistance are super useful.
Really I completely disagree that the mentioned builds are even comparable to abjuration wizard.
The only hard moment in the first act was Spectator, since he has fly, lot of damage, lot of disables and I think he can't be locked anywhere and shot down. But he's optional and you can revisit him later anyway.
I did not finish the game with that build yet since it gets super easy and boring later on, but end of second act is way easier than end of first act already.
cool story
I am open to discussion, without it it's really WTF to me@@bumblaster9000