The Royal Death Pits of Ur

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  • @TheHistocrat
    @TheHistocrat  2 ปีที่แล้ว +315

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    • @dgonthehill
      @dgonthehill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow interesting, thnx

    • @Zogerpogger
      @Zogerpogger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Citing sources is just one of many factors that sets this channel above most others that make documentaries.

    • @nickwilliams2745
      @nickwilliams2745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Wow I’ve written papers for classes with worse citation than your youtube videos and tbh it’s not even close

    • @flashmanfred
      @flashmanfred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Bro this is what I'm talking about!!! Proper citations are soooo lacking in TH-cam history (and other subjects). Thank you for doing this!

    • @ObjectiveEthics
      @ObjectiveEthics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you for your hard work. Your videos are both informative and compelling.

  • @Comuniity_
    @Comuniity_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +948

    I think the most important thing I learned is the sacred bond between a man and his barber dates back thousands and thousands of years

    • @maxdecphoenix
      @maxdecphoenix ปีที่แล้ว +138

      'barber' itself is one of the longer continually used words in Western Civilization. The root 'barb' has been in use since pre-roman latin into the modern age to describe 'hair'. The romans had a throwing weapon, officially called a plumbata, but was colloquially called martio(us)barbuli, or in English "Mar's Barb". A homage to the hair of Mars, god of war, being impossibly tough, sharp and able to kill men. The weapon, a metal spike featuring a gruesome counter-hook, with a bulbous weight on the other end, wasn't dissimilar from a hair with a folicle attached.
      This is where we derive barber, and also 'barb' as in barbed wire. Two otherwise completely unrelated concepts which owe a shared etymological root to a happenstances of roman paganism and militarism.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@maxdecphoenix jeez my man ur very intelligent

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Barbery Pirates sink slow too...

    • @diskgrinder
      @diskgrinder ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that about the oldest joke?

    • @MotherSoren
      @MotherSoren ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@maxdecphoenix thank u genuinely for the barber etymology lore 🙏🏻💜

  • @philipmarx1819
    @philipmarx1819 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    The Royal Death Pits of Ur is a kickass name for metal band.

    • @rossbrook5919
      @rossbrook5919 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂

    • @Exit311
      @Exit311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They'd have an epic giga mosh pit

    • @CyberClown2077
      @CyberClown2077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The epic of Gilamosh you say?​@Exit311

    • @methodicalmysticbutterflyi2669
      @methodicalmysticbutterflyi2669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you're on to something. 😅

    • @TheDudeMyDude
      @TheDudeMyDude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's more of a song title but I'm with you

  • @samaritan_sys
    @samaritan_sys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    History Time and Histocrat in the same week… I think I’m gonna cry with joy!

    • @JohnVance
      @JohnVance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      New Historia Civilis this week too! The trifecta!

    • @courtneywissler7983
      @courtneywissler7983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do this on purpose! I get two great docs in a couple days then I have to wait months.

    • @jojojacques810
      @jojojacques810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      All we need now is a new Fall Of Civilisations!! 👌🙏

    • @courtneywissler7983
      @courtneywissler7983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jojojacques810 yeah you know!! My three favorite channels!

    • @thecollierreport
      @thecollierreport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

  • @thefritz123
    @thefritz123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The depth and and sincerity with which you explore and present this topic is impressive. Thank you, Sir.

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    One could get very confused discussing Early Ur, Earlier Ur, and it's founding condition, ur-Ur.

    • @hoponlopo8690
      @hoponlopo8690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      hahaha xD

    • @davem4316
      @davem4316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i hope mr peabody got there already, seems it would have been obligatory

    • @gibsonseffern9780
      @gibsonseffern9780 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes indeed 😊

  • @Zogerpogger
    @Zogerpogger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    What a treat! I love the Histocrats documentaries, as much like Stephen Milo's, they recreate the same sensation of curiosity and amazement I felt as a child when watching documentaries. The music, the pacing, the images used, all come together in a unique and brilliant way.

    • @BarryB.Benson
      @BarryB.Benson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Couldn’t agree with you more!

    • @benmann1896
      @benmann1896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I heard Stephen Milo on this video! Pretty sure he reads a quote at around 55 minutes.

    • @Essentia-Channel
      @Essentia-Channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@benmann1896 Yep, I thought that too.

    • @paulm283
      @paulm283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes these are quality my friend😊

    • @QuaaludeCharlie
      @QuaaludeCharlie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      $5.00

  • @jourcontre-jour1286
    @jourcontre-jour1286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thank you for covering Ur I absolutely love their civilization

    • @helenamcginty4920
      @helenamcginty4920 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ha! We had a text book at my secondary school called From Ur to Rome. Unfortunately our older teachers had degrees but no teacher training. (They must have been some of the 1st women to be allowed to take degrees in Britain then. ). They were rubbish teachers. Our history teacher being one of the worst. She wrote stuff, in italic script, on the board for us to copy into our books, in italic script and using dip pens (this in 1959/60). Homework involved copying maps and pictures ftom the text book. Why? Who knows. All I can recall about Ur from her lessons is that it was in mesopotamia and can still see that damn priest in his long skirt that we had to copy. I must have switched off as I recall nothing more of our 1st 2 years history lessons. 😅😢😅
      Thank goodness for channels like this.

  • @lostinsomevalley
    @lostinsomevalley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Appreciate the incredible amount of time you put into this channel. Thanks mate.

    • @alfrednewman4496
      @alfrednewman4496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You appreciate it yourself. You're not the boss of me. I'll appreciate the channel's time expenditure and level of dedication because I want to not because YOU told me to. smh.......some nerve .....bully! I know what's good and don't need......

  • @User-435ggrest
    @User-435ggrest ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love putting these on at night and just drift away while learning about history. Thank you😊

  • @JustSpectre
    @JustSpectre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The best video on this topic I have ever seen. Very well researched, exceptionally narrated, comprehensively presented. You have my honest thanks.

  • @The_Reality_Filter
    @The_Reality_Filter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Your content is always of such a high standard and often concentrates on lesser explored topics. Kudos to you sir and may the algorithm bless you...

  • @vanzikky
    @vanzikky ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thank you for this quiet (no hectic cuts, no dramatic music) and informative video.

  • @TERMICOBRA
    @TERMICOBRA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you for being an educator. Your teaching style successfully transfers profound facts as you wrap them in well defined theories so we don't confuse the two.

  • @Daniel-sf2te
    @Daniel-sf2te ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I got to see some of the artifacts at the Penn Museum, and I am so happy to find this video to learn more about this topic. It is such an interesting site

  • @maxthepaladin2147
    @maxthepaladin2147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Always nice to learn more about Sumerians and other ancient cultures of that region

  • @ponkoot
    @ponkoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Love these videos! The interesting content and absence of random, distracting audio combine to make for perfect wind down videos.
    Thanks!

  • @Imperiused
    @Imperiused 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Listened and watched while I was cleaning. These videos are truly a treasure. The research, the images, the narration... I could never not recommend this channel. You're criminally underwatched!

  • @manosassassin
    @manosassassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Oh boy it's 2Am and the Histocrat just uploaded, there goes my sleep.

    • @PBunyanOx
      @PBunyanOx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least you'll know who was buried in the death pits of Ur

    • @davidsparks4826
      @davidsparks4826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s 8 pm where I live. But all the same. 😂✌🏼🙏🏼Love and Respect

    • @chadjonesvii9369
      @chadjonesvii9369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      7:15PM in East Texas right now. We are all in different time zones. That's a wide ranging audience. 💯👍🏻

    • @alexandriasimms4842
      @alexandriasimms4842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1.30am here in the UK

    • @johnrice1943
      @johnrice1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chadjonesvii9369 I'm in East Texas too!

  • @remainselusive1
    @remainselusive1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    You had me at Death Pits.

  • @sgilbert5753
    @sgilbert5753 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The royal cemetery at Ur's communal burial seems to suggest a less than peaceful change in overlordship, or perhaps dynasty; in that the surviving defeated were honoring their revered killed, perhaps during an overrun or post-victory executions.

    • @bluegum6438
      @bluegum6438 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It suggests either execution or religious sacrifice to me. I would not be surprised if it was tradition to have the court of a previous monarch summarily executed, it makes a grim kind of sense - your courtiers can't plot your demise and in fact will actively try to keep you alive, while future rulers have the uncertainty and treachery of navigating an established political structure wiped away.
      The respect shown to the corpses and the merciful method of execution indicates that their deaths were considered regrettably necessary for one reason or another. Very interesting to think about.

    • @russell2910
      @russell2910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@bluegum6yes, much as trump wants to get rid of the deep state.😊

  • @arvydas0069
    @arvydas0069 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I got to walk on top of the ziggurat and walk around at will. It’s hard to imagine all those things were buried underneath, the site was in disrepair. It’s sorta in middle of nowhere now, outside Nasiriyah

    • @SacredDreamer
      @SacredDreamer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😲 AMAZINGLY Lucky

    • @arvydas0069
      @arvydas0069 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SacredDreamer There's no gate around it, no security, although there was a large airbase called Talil Airbase, which I used to run armed security out of for American Civilians and Military engineers. I accompanied the American US Army Colonel in charge of rebuilding Iraq, Colonel Jon Christensen, around the Ziggurat and complex next door. Walked beneath one of the oldest non-restored standing arches in the world on that site, which was very cool. Luckily, only Saddam had ruined the site, by, incomprehensibly, building on top of the ruins to restore its original shape. The result was that it took a bit of knowledge of history and some photos to aim for the original structure. There were loads of cast off clay pot pieces of unknown age. I'm willing to bet they were from University of Pennsylvania researches and such from around a century or more ago, not from any ancient settlement.

    • @ariessolarhijiri2985
      @ariessolarhijiri2985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arvydas0069 you fucking need people ruined way more quit lying on Saddam

  • @AtunSheiFilms
    @AtunSheiFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing work as always.

  • @mattthai7378
    @mattthai7378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These are so much better than the podcast format. A lot more work, I'm sure, but so worth it. Thank you! ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're incredibly good at what you do, Histocrat.

  • @Domenik-g9b
    @Domenik-g9b ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great work!
    I am absolutely in awe with the content you create and I look forward to spend many more hours listening to you.
    Plus I am always happy to hear anyone mentioning Dr. Finkel, he is an astonishing man, who deserves even more attention.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dr Irving Finkel is indeed a treasure for humanity.

  • @shelleymarquis2887
    @shelleymarquis2887 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great and accurate depiction of donkeys drawing a cart in the art work. Donkeys and mules built civilization with donkeys being the first equid domesticated, some 10,000 yrs ago.
    Genetics show that they were domesticated only once in Africa unlike horses and dogs who were domesticated at least twice that we know of, so far.
    Our modern horses are descended from only one of these groups of early domestications.
    Donkeys deserve respect not the abuse they get worldwide.

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very glad to have heard Stephan Milo's contribution as one of your readers.

  • @mark.J6708
    @mark.J6708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been all over this site. Mesmerizing and ancient, you can feel it.

  • @toslo24
    @toslo24 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think it was a combination for the followers to be buried with their ruler - 1 the succeeding kings would get rid of any potential threats to their kingship and 2 the followers would avoid a loss of status and hence 'choose' to be buried with their ruler. I think it would have been difficult to force a solider to bury themselves unless they were halfway willing.

    • @Badficwriter
      @Badficwriter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Human nature argues elaborate shows of power would continue, unless there was a particular reason for it. So the mass death was not a show of power by the deceased, but a symptom of a shift in power, I think. Which doesn't mean they weren't willing, completely, due to the near celebratory trappings. (We mustn't forget how willing death cults are to reach apotheosis) Poison is not as sure as people think, death can be long and sickening. Kneeling to accept a death blow after a hearty drink of wine isn't that much different from poisoning oneself.

    • @KittymoreJoy
      @KittymoreJoy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do not agree, although the servants may have known that they would be killed with a ruler, does not always mean it was a willing act by a sacrificed person, but resignation. Did the Inca maidens understand that death awaited them at the end of a strenuous journey? Drugs always make victims easy to control minds and bodies. Human sacrifice had many excuses given 11:33 by those in political and religious people.

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible video, thank you so much and I hope your Docos are appreciated for decades.

  • @klaatoris
    @klaatoris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great stuff. But I am curious about the "fashion sense" of the Sumerians. It seems to me like nearly all the ancient peoples of this region, from the Akkadians down to the Persians, liked to portray their rulers with big, long, well groomed beards. On the Standard of Ur, however, everyone from the defeated soldiers to the king are clean shaven and bald or short haired. Did the Sumerians have distinctly different aesthetic ideals from the other ones?

    • @guird4
      @guird4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remember reading that the sumerians were very different from their neighbors in many respects - their language for instance is assumed to be from a different language family than the others. Where I read this, they suggested that the sumerians had been forced to move inland by an advancing persian gulf.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@guird4 It's not just suggested, their language was a different one, unrelated to any other known today. This has been proven by the Assyriologists who study the tablets and Linguists who study ancient languages. Dr Irving Finkel of the British Museum, where most of the tablets are kept, and who studies them, has said that in several of his fascinating (and humorous) lectures.

    • @Badficwriter
      @Badficwriter ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perhaps they shaved at different stages of the year? We know wigs and false beards were a thing in Egypt, but those things could get very dirty and insect ridden in a swampy area.

    • @mikef.1000
      @mikef.1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The shaving off of the beards of the defeated was calculated to shame them deeply.

    • @klaatoris
      @klaatoris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mikef.1000 That does not explain why the king also is bald and shaven, though.

  • @lindaschubert5459
    @lindaschubert5459 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for a superb narration on Ur. I'd like to hear more information on this topic.

  • @Zogerpogger
    @Zogerpogger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Even though I wish the History of Britain series would get a new installment, I get the feeling the Histocrat gets curious and learns new things faster than he can make videos and thus ends up just making a video on what he is most interested in at the time or learned most recently. If this is the case I totally understand why there have been a few series that seem to be abandoned.

    • @TheHistocrat
      @TheHistocrat  2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Yeah basically. Also patrons vote on the topics so they control what gets made first.

    • @Zogerpogger
      @Zogerpogger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@TheHistocrat Makes sense about the Patrons, thanks for replying!

    • @justaskin8523
      @justaskin8523 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheHistocrat You made me think of something. Even in ancient times, people had patrons. An artist with a single wealthy and generous patron could very well be elevated above his own blood and childhood associates. You might not even need to have been a "good" artist; just one that has somebody like you and give you money...or whatever passed for wealth of the time. Maybe you were paid in sheep or water buffalo meat. Once your belly was full, you could trade the remainder for whatever your heart desired. Gold, pomegranates, figs, a nice daggar, a good pair of shoes or maybe undergarments that kept some of the sand out of (ahem) "places". Or maybe a dowry for that cute little chica you noticed when she was drawing water one morning. Or even a nice grave, complete with set-pieces appearing to be strong young men and women. Nevermind the holes in the backs of their skulls, lol! 🤔

    • @robinanders3954
      @robinanders3954 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or he found out info so damning and unbelievable he decided not to share it...maybe

    • @ChristinaFromYoutube
      @ChristinaFromYoutube ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​​@@justaskin8523or you were a teenager and had to sell tail to those rich old men for the privilege of focusing on your art.
      You give these ancient predators too much credit.

  • @biedl86
    @biedl86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The quality of the content on this channel is exceptional. Great video!

  • @reedreamer9518
    @reedreamer9518 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have to give The Histocrat credit for filling in much of the commonly left out details of these found artifacts, which tell an essential part of the history. Such as, the order and condition of the artifacts as they were revealed in the digs, as well as the preservation and reconstruction.

  • @burntbiscuit6438
    @burntbiscuit6438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I got a mate that tells me bedtime stories a million miles away

  • @fishofthepeople
    @fishofthepeople 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you, Sir. It's been a sad time waiting for you to post another precious piece of knowledge.

  • @ThatLadyBird
    @ThatLadyBird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was an amazing video...as always. Counting the days till the next.

  • @immortal5383
    @immortal5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The quality of these are appreciated. Keep it up.

  • @TheMercian13
    @TheMercian13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Coming in clutch with another great video.

  • @ie1961
    @ie1961 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My sincere thanks for this presentation.

  • @dbartholemewfox
    @dbartholemewfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    1:16:23 This poem probably references the rebellion of Ur (lead by Lugal-ane) against Sargon. Thus Enheduana is appealing to the goddess Ishtar (and others) to slay the supporters of Nanna (the patron god of Ur) because of Ur's rebellion against her father. Enheduana was actually high priestess at the Temple of Nanna (in Ur) at the time. After this incident Enheduana seems to have switched allegiances to the goddess Ishtar (aka Inanna), only writing poems for her, instead of the moon god Nanna.
    The idea that the poem is referencing a ritual mass funeral is pretty nonsensical if you read the entire poem. A more modern translation of the same lines (by Jeremy Black) make this clear: "In the place of divine encouragement, what is my standing now? May An extradite the land which is a malevolent rebel against your Nanna! May An smash that city! May Enlil curse it! May its plaintive child not be placated by his mother!" In this translation it's clear that Enheduanna is cursing the city Ur despite her close relationship to its patron god Nanna.

  • @HoH
    @HoH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Incredibly interesting!

  • @elcesar999
    @elcesar999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The older the better and nothing older than Summer thanks my guy

    • @iwxw8437
      @iwxw8437 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baal bek is older than sumer

  • @RaimoKangasniemi
    @RaimoKangasniemi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When it comes to 17:20, the idea of a female ruler was not totally alien in ancient Mesopotamia. The Sumerian king list from the III Dynasty of Ur names a likely mythological ruling queen of Kish, Kubaba, who would have ruled three generations or so before Sargon the Great of Akkad, aka around 2450 BCE.

  • @johnnzboy
    @johnnzboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Super interesting, your level of research does you credit. For future reference, keep in mind that, in Italian, 'ch' is pronounced like 'k' (e.g. Pinocchio) , so (Gianni) Marchesi is pronounced 'mar-kay-see' :)

  • @devinsmith4790
    @devinsmith4790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Sumerians are a interesting ancient culture.

    • @lindanorris2455
      @lindanorris2455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and gorgeous jewlery!

    • @robinanders3954
      @robinanders3954 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Especially when you research and find all ancient cultures worshiped the same so called "gods" just by different names. These same fallen angels who rebelled against GOD and choose to be worshiped as "gods" here on earth rather than serve their CREATOR and follow HIS rules. And this same ruling class of these same ancient fallen angel bloodlines worship the same so called "gods" as they did way back then. The ancient rebellion against GOD goes on to this day. That rebellion is almost over tho. Judgement is due and is coming soon.

    • @janewright315
      @janewright315 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@robinanders3954 just stop

    • @valkoroska2369
      @valkoroska2369 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinanders3954 right dude. say that to these dudes who make your religion religion as young as a baby in comparison.

    • @sunstardrummer
      @sunstardrummer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robinanders3954😊

  • @cattymajiv
    @cattymajiv ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As well as making great videos like this, I love the fact that you very obviously delete all the comments by the wingnuts.
    It's SUCH a huge relief to know that I won't have to try to dig through mountains of garbage about aliens, conspiracies by everyone with a degree, and other craziness, just to find the interesting comments! So what remains here are all the interesting ones! BRAVO to you on SO many levels! ❤❤❤

  • @damiengreen5935
    @damiengreen5935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is so much to praise about the discussion presented within this documentary

  • @fisticuffsmate
    @fisticuffsmate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    you post some of my favorite videos on youtube, i really do appreciate what you do!

  • @jameswoodard4304
    @jameswoodard4304 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interestingly, after watching this, I looked up the writings attributed to Enheduanna (but may be much older and back-attributed). At the beginning of one of her long hymns to Inanna, and which stresses Inanna's role as the obtainer of the divine mes or powers, she refers to the goddess as "Mistress of heaven, with the great diadem, who loves the good headdress befitting the office of en priestess, who has seized all seven of its divine powers."
    The en priestess of Inanna in Ur would have had a distinct headdress. The headdress of Puabi mentioned in this video features seven prominent star/floral figures rising out of it. The only real evidence for calling her "Queen" Puabi is her apparent wealth and social standing. But to automatically connect this with Lugalship over Enship is largely ad hoc.

  • @Riley-uy5pe
    @Riley-uy5pe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it when one of the fav history tubes uploads a nice fat video essay for all our enjoyment 😌🧡

  • @royriley6282
    @royriley6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Modern archaeologists: Older scholars were presumptuous
    Also Modern archaeologists: Muh Rituals

  • @Zogerpogger
    @Zogerpogger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For some reason I feel the urge to comment a funny thing that happened, even though it is not at all relevant to this video. In The Histocrat Q&A you said you recommended any History channel except M. Laser History, being the fool I am, I took that at face value. I was conflicted wondering why one of my favorite History youtubers did not recommend another of my favorite History TH-camrs! Then I saw an M. Laser comment saying to avoid your channel, I was baffled. When I asked for an explanation M. Laser informed me politely that it was a joke. I faceplamed hard, ashamed at my own thick-headedness. Thus ended my poor humorless torment.
    However I am now curious what your thoughts on TIK are, as M. Laser does not recommend (though I can guess why).

  • @vanguze
    @vanguze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you. Truly fascinating.

  • @Angayasse
    @Angayasse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A perfect treat - thank you so much for this work, this is extremely interesting!

  • @cocalicoman
    @cocalicoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gusto Rat and Historian Civilis upload on the same day. Early Christmas gift

  • @rc1800
    @rc1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yessss!! I just started getting into learning about Sumerian history as well :)

  • @interstellarconveyance4865
    @interstellarconveyance4865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any thoughts about the current national policies regarding preservation of these artifacts? Every now and then there are rumors of government officials looting museums, and or shutting museums down and "moving collections for protection", sadly the United States has a non interest policy which eliminates any scientific cooperation between our two countries. Thank you for an amazing and beautiful presentation into this ancient world.

  • @massimosquecco8956
    @massimosquecco8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great report, Sir, I m grateful for your accurate work in making this video...

  • @carriekelly4186
    @carriekelly4186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for sharing this fascinating history of civilization's first largest city. Yes most likely priest figures for the early Mesopotamian Deities...the most interesting being the last..possibly grandaughter or daughter of Sargon? First very profound writers that we have a pen name to her writing. Morgan gallery has an incredible large exhibit of female Mesopotamian writers,poets,artwork and portraits thereof. Just mindblowing as how much i could relate to an artist of some four thousand years ago. Absolutely beautiful. Enheduanna. Her writing and this exhibit is a must for those interested.

  • @buttercxpdraws8101
    @buttercxpdraws8101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this ❤ And a special voice cameo from young Stefan Milo. Glorious 👏

  • @neva_nyx
    @neva_nyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another thing I've not seen yet, what kind of rooms were inside the zigurats? Surely, at least one has been excavated. Anyone know if there's someone/ team to search to learn about it?

    • @andrewnorris7642
      @andrewnorris7642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ziggurats were temples and the top was for stargazing. So temple type shit.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've always wanted to know that too! Is it a sanctuary where the god lives, and is fed and dressed every day? Is it the patron god of that city? I wonder why nobody seems to address this obvious question. Maybe because the rooms had been stripped of all but the mudbrick walls.
      Were the Ziggurats solid like the pyramids, or did the levels have rooms and halls? I've been waiting decades to hear the answers.

  • @otilium7503
    @otilium7503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautifully done, thank you!

  • @silentone11111111
    @silentone11111111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better than history channel by far. Great work.

  • @neva_nyx
    @neva_nyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Other than the Royal "death pit" have any other Sumerian cemeteries been found in any other ancient cities? Only this royal cemetery is ever talked about; what else is has been found?

    • @georgethompson1460
      @georgethompson1460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The merchant death pit, peasent death pit, and slightly upper crust deathpit.

    • @benyahudadavidl
      @benyahudadavidl ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps some of us are unaware that the white people want us to believe that the old world is in North East Africa i.e. mesopotamia. I am fascinated by the fact that white people know everything about everyone else and yet cannot tell us about THEIR ancient history. ???? Imagine that they believe that they no more about Black people than they know about themselves. Let that sink in. B1👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🪶🌽

  • @ficklefingeroffate
    @ficklefingeroffate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you sir! My Friday night is complete!

  • @rugosetexture2716
    @rugosetexture2716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fascinating subject, beautifully presented. Thank you!

  • @WitchyWhispersASMR
    @WitchyWhispersASMR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Watch out, y’all, there’s a new histocrat video! My Friday night is about to get LIT 🎉

  • @massimosquecco8956
    @massimosquecco8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably Puabi wasn't a queen at all, but a "Living Goddess" considered as such for some inscrutable reason, and her male counterpart was probably have been seen in life as a divine hero, this is why he could bring in the underworld so many lives with him. And don't forget that his tomb was never touched: This is a sign of his superhuman status and that of the leading woman buried next to him.

  • @RegebroRepairs
    @RegebroRepairs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    21:12 Whoah! That's an arch! 3000 years before the Romans!
    Edit: Some Googling shows that although arched aqueducts seem to be a roman invention, the claim that Romans invented arches is a complete myth. They were invented somewhere in the near east 4000BC.

  • @michaelhead7483
    @michaelhead7483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is for the algorithm so you reach a larger audience . Great vid

  • @JayGideon-7
    @JayGideon-7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very instructive, and thorough. Thank you. The rhythmic nature of the narration however soon became disagreeable.

  • @evankimori
    @evankimori 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Today is really overcast and really quiet with a drizzle of rain. I've got a long drive ahead of me this morning and I'm lucky enough to have the Histocrat in my ears today. Thanks for making today great!

  • @jwolpert1310
    @jwolpert1310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great documentary! My daughter and I love the game of 20 square's and Dr. Finkels rules!

  • @bonifaciodachuva
    @bonifaciodachuva ปีที่แล้ว

    The fineness of their craftmanship is astounding; no wonder they would treasure it so much.

  • @Stu161
    @Stu161 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it's very interesting that the bead found in Mari is seen as strong evidence of Mes-Anne-pada's influence in that region. In North American archaeology, it's relatively common to find goods thousands of miles from their culture of origin.

  • @VivaAlecto
    @VivaAlecto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    oh thank you this is exactly what I needed

  • @mungomidge1090
    @mungomidge1090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this, very informative and entertaining.

  • @williamharris8367
    @williamharris8367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    From a purely economic perspective, it seems wasteful to sacrifice skilled staff like musicians, soldiers, etc. It would take many years to train these individuals to a sufficient level of skill to serve the monarch. The incoming king would, presumably, have to be served by apprentices and retirees until the next group can be properly trained.
    I am reminded of the consequences of Stalin's purge of senior military officers in the 1930s. Presumably Ur's enemies would take advantage of the absence of trained/experienced soldiers immediately following the death of a monarch.

  • @djn00dle
    @djn00dle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You had me at "This video contains images of human remains..."

  • @SamtheIrishexan
    @SamtheIrishexan ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I always wonder how cool it would be to get DNA from these ancient burials, and then to see if any descendents of those first kings and queens still live. Imagine taking an ancestry DNA kit and finding out you are a direct descendent of the God kings of Mesopotamia

    • @yaldabaoth2
      @yaldabaoth2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After so many generations, there will hardly be anyone who is not a descendant of them. That's why dna ancestry is a joke.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd probably first figure out if the buried persons were male or female using DNA. As far as I'm aware, archaeologists have been known to make mistakes in figuring out the sex of a deceased due to relaying too much on grave goods and ignoring the specific bone anatomy.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Their descendents are alive and well in Iraq and elsewhere, but their DNA, like all of ours, has been mixed with many different kinds over the years.

    • @josesbox9555
      @josesbox9555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would demand tribute 😊

    • @cometnight0
      @cometnight0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      After a long enough time, there are no direct descendants. This is because the DNA of that specific person would become diluted into the greater whole. A modern person can claim some loose relation, but that's about it.

  • @maciejtedeque8096
    @maciejtedeque8096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man i was waiting for mesopotamia again!

  • @metalman7791
    @metalman7791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excited about this one!

  • @King_king880
    @King_king880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your rich knowledge in History and mythology.

  • @fredericpaes7288
    @fredericpaes7288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for one more great video

  • @andrewnorris7642
    @andrewnorris7642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Maybe the poisoned slaves were meant to serve him in whatever afterlife, similar to the dolls in Egyptian tombs

  • @jeremysmith4620
    @jeremysmith4620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So much better than the Proletariat Death Pits of Ur. The executioners there are just so working class.

  • @jamiel6005
    @jamiel6005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never been more interested in a video based solely on its title before

  • @ruthmusser4449
    @ruthmusser4449 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this. Shows how people always exalted others. Still today.

  • @EnDB
    @EnDB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw the diagram, the harp, and two crushed skulls at a museum in Philadelphia a few months ago.

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My name is Ozymandias , King of Kings .
    Look upon my works , ye mighty
    And despair...

  • @QuaaludeCharlie
    @QuaaludeCharlie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well it is clear that the People of Ur were Educated and had some Technological attributes . They used the Wheel and had a way of Electroplating with Metals , Great Video , Liked and Shared :) QC

  • @Guydude777
    @Guydude777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stellar content. Thanks a ton Histocrat.

  • @OmarJano
    @OmarJano ปีที่แล้ว

    I love to splurge on random history videos like these when I drink. Thanks for the awesome content! New sub.

  • @karsaorlong3761
    @karsaorlong3761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    sick, i gave it a like instantly, thank you good sir

  • @wesdowner5636
    @wesdowner5636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With all the knowledge that the excavators had of previous grave looting, why would any current archeologist assume that the remaining evidence and artifacts are in their original locations?

  • @CatchingJeremy
    @CatchingJeremy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved randomly hearing Stefan Milo like an audiobook

  • @thesaints-7-andrew.
    @thesaints-7-andrew. ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
    Great documentary.