@@ianpurcell7266 No rest for her with all that carpentry. She loved a bit of DIY. You should have heard her hammering inside the coffin as we lowered her into the ground. Sounded like she was paneling the walls or building a breakfast nook.
I think it already broke on the 5th hit where it made the high pitch tone, sounded like as if the tension was released and the bonded layer separated. So the paint flexed but the inside would be cracked.
That’s not a good test If you want to test the toughness in a meaningful way You have to impact it. And then test compressive strength Carbon finer frame don’t fail by getting holes in them they fail after strength is reduced due to impact
Ill take denting over a sudden catastrophic explosion of carbon slivers when you least expect it. Thats why you have to get anything carbon checked out professionally after any impact or wipe out. Because if it has even a small hair line fracture it has to be most likely replaced if it cannot be fixed. $$$$ I honestly dislike carbon fiber road bikes because the cons out weight the pros for me.. i prefer Titanium hands down.
@@TarmanTheChampion While it is certainly advisable to check it out by a professional, carbon tends to crack and make noises in case of material damage. Aluminium just snaps in comparison.
Hitting a frame gently with a hammer is one thing, putting a 150lb rider on it going 15+mph is an entirely different test. Not to mention a more realistic scenario.
Why make a video trying to test the durability of Carbon Fiber Frames and fail at it miserably. First simulate it dropping to the side and front from low ground. Then high ground. Then use force for fissures and fractures with actual hard mounting hardware and not use your own human flesh which is weak and absorbs the impacts. 🤦
sorry, but this "test" is absolutely dumb!!! A bike frame simply isn't made for forces like this, and it will NEVER experience such forces in real life
...and btw - it was damaged long before you could see any damage outside, because delamination has happened way earlier - probably at the first struck with the hammer... but again, that is complete BS
@BicycleForHealth a well made carbon frame is very stiff and durable - if it is handled properly. This type of force it will not take well, and as I said before: the frame was severely damaged long before you see it from the outside! The delamination caused by the hammer does minimize the strength of the frame significantly. Many people do absolute not understand how carbon composite works and what the advantages (and restrictions) of it are! This video illustreates nothing! It's BS
@BicycleForHealth I absolute agree! Carbon frames (if well made) are far superior to steel, aluminium or titanium frames - and I never opposed that! But you don't see the qualities of carbon frames through tapping them with a hammer
😂 the simple minded people will swallow this advertisement hammer trick. Hitting it with a hammer is not the same as landing a jump with a 150-250 lbs guy. Leave carbon for road bikes and hyper cars. 🤣
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Carbon is strong, but also that guy swings a hammer with the same force as my grandmother that has been dead for 4 years.
May your dear grandmother rest in peace
@@ianpurcell7266 No rest for her with all that carpentry. She loved a bit of DIY. You should have heard her hammering inside the coffin as we lowered her into the ground. Sounded like she was paneling the walls or building a breakfast nook.
He's holding the hammer in the middle, really reducing it's power.
I thought the frame would crack easily... hence the smaller swings. if had known it would be that strong I would have grabbed the sledge hammer!
Give the guy a break its his first time
I remember my first time
Mans eyebrows go up with every hammer smash 😂
Haha 👀
Bro 🤣🤣🤣
I was focused on that too lol
The force is dissipated through movement of arms and hands. Try that on a bike firmly planted on the ground and see what happens.
Bike frame be like "stop trying to hit me, and hit me"
I need guns. Lots of guns.....
The kind of therapy I'll get to reduce my anger issues
Hitting a frame with a hammer isn’t even remotely the same as a 200lb person on it taking a spill lmao
I think it already broke on the 5th hit where it made the high pitch tone, sounded like as if the tension was released and the bonded layer separated. So the paint flexed but the inside would be cracked.
Hit it with your purse!
Now introducing it's bigger brother, a 20 pound sledge.
Don't hold it up in the air and absorb the impact energy with your arms. Put it on the ground and hammer it into the ground.
Bro's the hitting the bike with less strengh than your average crash on the road
he should have taken off one of his high heels and tried that.
I snapped my carbon frame when I got car doored at 30kph. Top tube, down tube both.
Ouch... I hope there were no major injuries 🤞🏼
I've gone through 3 high-end carbon frames.. All cracked.. Now I've gone back to Ti framesets.. No more carbon frames for me
Only a fat monkey who gap jumps over his abilities is going to destroy a carbon frame you better stick with video games
That’s not a good test
If you want to test the toughness in a meaningful way
You have to impact it. And then test compressive strength
Carbon finer frame don’t fail by getting holes in them they fail after strength is reduced due to impact
Trying to stop the creaking?
Stop flirting with it and hit it!
The paint is stronger than my phone screen protector
im searching day and night for a giant tcr/ propel carbon frame ...this breaks my heart
Use right hand like a man
Use a 28oz framing hammer and generate some force I know carbon is strong but it would still be interesting to see
Try on carbon seatpost pls
Either way, carbon fiber aint no joke. Its strong.
nothing will convince me that glue and cloth is stronger than metal. it might be strong enough but brittle as sh1ite
Kevlar is "cloth and glue". Would you prefer an aluminum bulletproof vest? 😀
Now do that to an aluminum frame.
Now send it back to Giant for a warranty replacement.
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I did a gravel race today and slammed into rocks so hard that it would've dented a metal rim. Carbon rims are way stronger than metal ones.
Ill take denting over a sudden catastrophic explosion of carbon slivers when you least expect it. Thats why you have to get anything carbon checked out professionally after any impact or wipe out. Because if it has even a small hair line fracture it has to be most likely replaced if it cannot be fixed. $$$$ I honestly dislike carbon fiber road bikes because the cons out weight the pros for me.. i prefer Titanium hands down.
@@TarmanTheChampion While it is certainly advisable to check it out by a professional, carbon tends to crack and make noises in case of material damage. Aluminium just snaps in comparison.
Hit the top tube.
My 2017 Scott foil has been through at least a dozen crashes. Amazing how the derailleur always loses the fight not the frame
Carbon fiber is good for road bikes but not for mountain bikes. Agree or disagree and why?
Pro or Amateur weekender ???
Ehh your arm absorbed all hits, you don’t need to be smart to figure that out.
Same hammer blows to a steel frame..." Did someone tap me on my shoulder?"
😂
they dent pretty easy
certainly it was harder than my nerves.
Make it mire realistic man... Like, how hard it will be on actuall crash
Is it true, that once it breaks, even a little, it is done?
It depends where the break is, if it's not in a vital area then it can be fixed 👍🏼
Giant xtc?
So...strong enough
if you would put down your purse
The speed at which you hit a hammer wont match the speed of crashes
Why not hit it with a real hammer, not some 8oz childs toy?
Use a real hammer and a real swing!!
Psh no swing there.
Querendo vender o martelinho da shope?
It that a 4 ounce hammer🤔😂
Can you see what swinging the frame against a post does? I think it's more relevant than having a small impact zone from a hammer
I'll put that on my to do list 😂😂
So...what about the test with a sharp stone and not with a rounded hammer?
Give me this fram😢pls
Muito resistente
Not a good test approach .
Tiny hammer.
Oh, its a Giant, not surprise.
it pains me
Hitting a frame gently with a hammer is one thing, putting a 150lb rider on it going 15+mph is an entirely different test. Not to mention a more realistic scenario.
Cant keep my eyes off of his eyebrows
This confirm carbon frame is really strong
Hit the BB like that, or any other seems....yep.
Done.
This hurts to watch
I kicked back and broke rear fork. 🤷♂️
He's using a right handed hammer while he's a lefty!
😳
Man the oceangate submarine shouldn't have imploded then 😔
Hurt to see
I know right!!
Now do an ultrasound scan lol
Why make a video trying to test the durability of Carbon Fiber Frames and fail at it miserably. First simulate it dropping to the side and front from low ground. Then high ground. Then use force for fissures and fractures with actual hard mounting hardware and not use your own human flesh which is weak and absorbs the impacts. 🤦
Ok engineering Karen
Put a rider on the bike and then hammer it. Easy
sorry, but this "test" is absolutely dumb!!! A bike frame simply isn't made for forces like this, and it will NEVER experience such forces in real life
...and btw - it was damaged long before you could see any damage outside, because delamination has happened way earlier - probably at the first struck with the hammer... but again, that is complete BS
@BicycleForHealth a well made carbon frame is very stiff and durable - if it is handled properly. This type of force it will not take well, and as I said before: the frame was severely damaged long before you see it from the outside! The delamination caused by the hammer does minimize the strength of the frame significantly. Many people do absolute not understand how carbon composite works and what the advantages (and restrictions) of it are! This video illustreates nothing! It's BS
@BicycleForHealth I absolute agree! Carbon frames (if well made) are far superior to steel, aluminium or titanium frames - and I never opposed that! But you don't see the qualities of carbon frames through tapping them with a hammer
@BicycleForHealth 👍🏼
😂 the simple minded people will swallow this advertisement hammer trick. Hitting it with a hammer is not the same as landing a jump with a 150-250 lbs guy. Leave carbon for road bikes and hyper cars. 🤣
I prefer titanium over carbon on my road bike