I agree 100% with this list, I would have put Cu Caster in honorable mentions: a 3 star, NP5 that can loop with Black Grail (and he doesn't need any MC).
Although Oberon's dmg isn't that high, he is one of the few servants that doesn't need an MLB Kscope to loop. You will need to atleast have Skill1 at lvl6 and Skill2 at lvl10. The CE that you need will only be a Non-mlb Kscope or MLB 4* CE that gives 75% Charge and the NP charge Append skill.
Actually you can 6 CE with Oberon if you have his 2nd append skill unlocked . If you have double Vitch and Waver . 1st turn you use Oberon's 1st and 2nd skill , then waver's 2nd and 3rd skill , you NP then you plugsuit a Vitch you charge his gauge with a Double Vitch then NP his cooldowns should end so you use all of his skills and then Waver's 1st skill then lastly you NP
You don't need an MLB Kscope to 3-turn with buster servants that have at least 30% charge. Unless you really hate the plugsuit, but with the most recent update and being able to fast-forward that stuff (yes, that also works on plugging someone else in), I feel like it's much less of a problem than it ever was before. That's the beauty of the double Vitch system, she allows any Buster servant with at least a 30% battery with no more than 6 turns on its CD to 3-turn with a 50% starting NP CE.
I remember when Melusine had just been released and a bunch of people were saying she was bad since as an arts servant she only had two skills and back then people completely dismissed buster servants. Times surely have changed, huh?
Idk i read a lot of good opinions on her pre koyan looping. I remember ppl going crazy cuz she was the answer to odd nodes like 1-1-3 though kinda niche at the time she was solid at it. Now with koyan she's busted tho, i regret not pulling harder for her
Gilgamesh sadly has really bad damage at NP1 when farming since his damage mod is for servants. So it's pretty obvious why he isnt here since ZTL is considering servants to be NP1. That ain't a problem for ppl like me who have him lv120, golden, foued, NP4 (Still searching 5th copy) + max append skills. So if you got such Gil don't worry he will loop ;)
Just a question: Can Ishtar (Archer) "loop"? I'm just curious because she has 50% charge and two attack buffs and I wonder if she can work as a "buster looper"
Yes You need apend 2 or superscope for wave 1 And in wave 2 you use Ishtar battery and one Koyanskaya And in wave 3 you use the other Koyanskaya and Atlas to have Ishtar battery up again
Alternatively you can plugsuit a 50% charger and use a 50% start CE. Turn 1. Ishtar battery. Turn 2. 2 koyanskaya batteries. Turn 3. Ishtar battery again, plug battery (like Waver or Oberon) This works for any 6 Turn or shorter cooldown 50% battery. 30% batteries can add append on Turn one and Oberon S1 on Turn 3 for the same effect
She can also use castoria and 2 Koyanskaya (instead of Oberon and 2 Koyanskaya) to farm 11x, and 12x enemies by using her single target NP on the first wave or second wave if it's 11x enemies
@@aminebachir3394 I'm working on her to make her lvl 120 with maxed fou's and all.. Her only weakness is saber, the rest is farmable.. Even if sabers are on the field, she can nuke them with black grail double Koyanskaya and Oberon.. I wonder if DW will ever release a servant like her again in the near future..
You say this is an easy list to do, I disagree, STRONGLY, as this is probably the most hard one to do because of all of the things you have to consider when thinking about the ranking. For example Artoria has BIG damage, and on paper it is higher than most anyone on there, but the issue is her biggest damage buff can't double stack on herself because it's just for 1 turn. Meanwhile servants like Godjuna or Melusine or Ibuki ramp the hell up in later turns because they can have their strongest buffs active twice. If damage was the main criteria, Ibuki will out-damage everyone on there except Artoria, because both of her big buffs can activate twice. And speaking of damage... dude, there are just TWO AoE buster servants in the game that can 3-turn with any CE, one is Melusine and I don't think anyone will disagree with her being placed at the top, she's just on another level, so that right there was the easiest servant to place in the top 5. But spots 2 to 5 are frigging HARD. Oh and the SECOND AoE buster servant that can 3-turn with any CE is CASTER CU... dude... you actually forgot Caster Cu, who should have been at least top 3, if not I would argue number 2 because he doesn't just 3-turn farm with any CE... he can do it WITHOUT SWAPPING ANYONE ELSE IN. Hell you don't even need Double Vitch to 3-turn farm with Caster Cu, he is THAT broken. Just anyone with a 20% charge (and a starting 50% charge on himself) or your own Waver (works with any CE with maxed 2nd append skill), a support Vitch and the Atlas MC are enough to get that going. So yeah, if there's one big criticism I have for this list is that you somehow forgot Caster Cu, who is not just servant number XXX, dude is literally the only one in the game that can 3-turn farm with any CE without a plugsuit... so next time you do one of these lists remember that and give our boy the credit he deserves.
Also, with Cu, if he has starting NP Append skill at max level with Max level 1st and 2nd skill, you can also use any MC. Here's the sequence: 1st wave: Double Buster buff from the Vitch. Pop First skill and last skill(with max Append skill, that should be 50%). Use 1st Koyanskaya NP charge, 100%. 2nd wave: Cu comes back with 80% Charge, pop 2nd Koyanskaya NP charge(1st and 3rd skill is now off cool down), pop Cu 3rd skill. 3rd wave: Cu comes back with 80% charge, pop First skill, use whatever MC skill you have, profit.
@@Urd-Vidan Yes, but his Append skill is tricky because he was on rate-up before the coins were a thing, and 3star servants don't get coins from before the update. Thus despite having him NP4, I don't have enough for his 2nd append skill, and won't for quite some time. The hope is by the time the Hogwarts robe (that provides the final 20%) is maxed, I will have enough coins from BOND to be able to move on to another MC. But also sometimes damage CEs for events will have some kind of starting NP, so in those cases you can just use that and not have to worry about the 2nd append skill.
@@Ebosan87 oh, but I do. :D My best Buster Farmer besides Morgan, I got him at Level 90, Bond 10, that's also NP5(technically NP9 cus coins), got his NP Append skill, and maxed his skills, so no problem on my end.
About Ibuki, her ramping gets her to go from Mordred-level NP to slighty stronger than Artoria in a similar scenario (both with Double Koyan and Oberon). As far as I've seen, the strongest ones would be Arjuna Alter for general usage (double Anti-Evil is nothing to scoff at) and Mèlusine , though only when she's at an advantageous scenario. Though, yeah, I suppose Artoria and Ibuki would come right after then, it's been some time since I've seem Artoria's and Ibuki's damage.
I started playing like almost two years ago and i got Artoria within a month after I started playing and i gotta say, even without knowing much of other servants or how to use them efficiently, she is pretty good for a beginner like me, but, the one that always comes in clutch and has helped me a lot is Cu Chulainn
I feel like you forgot about Tesla. Sure, man enemies are common but with Vitch, Tesla has extra damage against all three. There's really nothing stopping him. I would personally put him at 4 and move Morgan down to 5. I believe Tesla outdamages Morgan against neutral enemies even though she is a berserker, assuming they are earth/sky. Not to mention, he does have better buffs on his skills that carry through waves. Otherwise, I agree with the rest of the list.
Gilgamesh really need a buff. His kit might not be best but yet still good, his hit still one of the best. His skill set is simple, just single line for skill descriptions:’). They probably will never buff him. (If they want to do it, just take every buff in the game (buster, quick,art,extra,def,evade,invincible,sure hit,gut,heal,remove debuff) and put it in his second skill, because everything originally his (dont take it seriously). I do agree with the list, don’t really mind if my favourite character not mentioned (I’m sorry BB). For farming, i make party with summer BB(starting 50%), space ishtar( starting 50%) and gil (kaleidoscope) anyway. So it doesn’t really matter. Putting gil and summer BB kinda nice ngl. Hopefully i can summon Himiko soon to make the team even weirder. Ahahahha
Mordred can be a good looper too ok her dmg isn't as strong as artoria but she has the same thing she gets 20% np after her after her clarent blood arthur and she has 30% np and at the last wave she can use her 50% buster up and she can deal a huge amount of dmg if u r fighting an arthur type enemy they r not alot but u can see artria faces at most of the events Ik she cannt be at the top5 but she is still a decent looper
I appreciate you saying fair man. Really tho O-beron isn’t hard to say. Say the letter O like you would in the alphabet song, the same way you pronounce the O in OP when you say a servant is OP, and then say beron. Cmon u got this believe in yourself.
I'd put Morgan above Arjuna on the account that she has more flexible options for CEs than Arjuna could and can synergize well with Koyan's Mod since she's an Earth, sure it's niche but Man Attribute isn't as rare as finding an Undead Lancer or Rider
I regret not pulling harder for Melusine, got Percival and Parvati spook and then stop rolling cuz Summer was around the corner. Maybe ill save for her on Na since i got Spishtar so no actual need of Summer kama there (except she's waifu) Also Morgan is top 1 on my heart, she's great
For some odd reason, I have every premium looping servants in the lancer class on every color. Summer Melt(np3), I pulled for cuz Castoria hype and insurance if(and I did) fail with SpIshtar Eresh(np1), random single gave her to me Lartoria(np1), thanksgiving spook Parvati(np2), regular spook
I wouldn’t really put Godjuna up there, since among everyone on the list he requires not only Double Koyan but also Oberon to be able to 3 turn spam with Plugsuit. He does the most damage, but if the other servants here get to use those 3 supports with plugsuit then they can match up to his damage as well, while still able to do 3 turn NP spam just fine with just Double Koyan Melusine deserves 1st place, but I’d personally put Artoria as 2nd since she’s the most flexible among Buster AoE and doesn’t require any specific MC with just a normal Kaleidoscope and append skill. Other good candidates are Ibuki with her omni pierce and 3 turn buffs which is valuable for CQs, and Caster Cu for being able to use BG as well as needing only Double Koyan without a 3rd support
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Human is better than round table because this is comparing them based on farming, and when you are farming, you'll be encountering humans a lot more than round table knights.
I'd argue Round Tables actually better, Human will only ever affect waves 1 and 2, and the meaty enemies are typically wave 3. Round Table Knights is a little niche but they definitely do show up in events since the bosses for nodes are always servants.
@@eeriecode1628 Not with a Black Grail it isn't, not to mention the buffs from two Vitchs. He will hit through most anything, more so and harder than some of the names on this list. Neah, he simply forgot about Caster Cu, that's the only real explanation. There is no AoE buster servant in the game with lower requirements for 3-turn farming than Caster Cu, and the fact he never even mentioned him in passing is definite proof of that.
Funnily enough I think Oberon should be nº1 on this list. Why? He's the ONLY (EDIT: 5*, this matters) buster servant that can 3T loop with the Koyanskaya system while carrying the Black Grail CE. That skyrockets his damage, and on wave 3 it's just bonkers. The Pretender class, much like Alter Ego, has its offensive disatvantages against cavalry classes, but other than that it's pretty much a semi-Zerker offensively while not being as frail.
@@Urd-Vidan Yes. You need Cú's 1st and 3rd skill maxed as well as his mana loading at LV. 10. 1st wave: 20% (mana loading) + 30% (1st skill) + 3rd skill + 50% (Koyanskaya) = 100% 2nd wave: 80% (3rd skill activated on the 1st wave) + 50% (Koyanskaya) + 3rd skill = 130% 3rd wave: 80% (3rd skill activated on the 2nd wave) + 30% (1st skill) = 110%
Because Melusine can use any CE, specifically a Black Grail, which becomes increasingly more important with Oberon (because of his 3rd skill on turn 3) she actually does the most damage of anyone. So even with neutral damage she will still out-damage Junao, believe it or not. Caster Cu is just as crazy, and the biggest omission here, as he can 3-turn with any CE without a plugsuit. Sure, he won't do anywhere near Melusine or Junao levels of damage, but against assassins, provided you have him at least NP2 (which is not hard to do, as he will be on rate-up on Morgan's first banner) he does more than enough damage.
@@Ebosan87 Even with all the boosts she can get from a lvl 100 BG, Oberon (who'd double up to 140% NP Damage in this scenario) and everything else she can stack, Arjuna Alter still hits slighty harder than her in the Oberon buff turn, and hits way harder beforehand, partly because she can only pop Dragonheart at turns 1 and 3.
@@Ebosan87 Nah, I ve count when both buster support released. With the same Wvitch + oberon setup, Melusine with MLB BG still below Junao with MLB Aerial Drive. Partly because Junao can stack 100% powermod at w2.
@@engrel On turn 1 and 2, sure. But not by that much, since NP1 Melusine deals 93k damage and 120k damage on Turn 1 and 2 respectively at Neutral damage with that setup, while Godjuna deals 120k with Berserker advantage using the setup you mentioned. But on Turn 3 with both using an Oberon support, Melusine deals higher damage at 410k on neutral while Godjuna deals 380k with zerk advantage and his powermod double stack.
@@TheAnaz41745 With Mèlusine using a lvl 100 BG, stacking Dragonheart (ATK+80%), stacking her 3 Buster buffs (60% Buster at t3), getting 30% NP Damage once from the second Ray Horizon, another 30% from Oberon and his 50% Buster + doubling NP Damage and 100% Buster from both Koyanskayas , I got 335,374 neutral on her, while Godjuna got 328,037 on average by stacking 30% ATK twice, 50% Special ATK twice, using lvl 100 Holy Night Supper (or Aerial Ace, it barely matters), his 20% Buster debuff (I fucked up in that part, I was considering 30%) and the buffs from the supports. True, she did win at t3, but it wasn't as large a victory as your numbers indicate and she still deals wonky damage at t2, which can be a problem since she can't stack Dragonheart that soon. Why are both numbers you gave that big anyways?
TL:DR Melusine has stupid damage AND great versatility. I would heavily argue her over morgan. Melusine is one of 3 currently available servants who can functionally run "The Black Grail" which gives a ludicrous amount of damage. Combine that with ramping damage from her np loops (both arts ST and buster AOE) and her great personal buffs, you have consistent and significant damage. Also the fact that melusine has more than 1 niche means there are more applications for her. Playing one of those quests with 1-1-x formations? have melusine ST the first two, then shift to aoe mode to take out the last wave. She works with both the castoria system for single target shenanigans, and fits into the koyanskaya+oberon system for buster looping.
i would say Melusine. with BIG but(t), if you have both Koyan and Oberon. you need both to be able to loop her while Morgan you will only need either Koyan or Oberon and/ take Waver from the shop.
Ngl, i was expecting Godjuna to fit the 4th or 5th spot because he only has the 30% battery, while Morgan has 50%, but the dmg is just a bit too far off ig
Godjuna is number 1 3t farmer in the game between any card type, if you are playing double Koyanskaya + Oberon. I literally farm anything with this team. Event farm quests, story, cq - it doesn't matter. Well, my gojuna is np 4, so it makes sense.
Since it' on the thumbnail, what about gilgamesh? I'm using him theese days and honestly i expected better. So sad because he's literally my one and only favourite servant
I think Lartoria's should be on the list because of her mana burst buff giving her a 50% damage up against chaotic and evil enemies. She also has a 50% battery that cleanses debuffs and she does pretty good damage. Idk, maybe I'm just being bias. I don't know what's her damage is at NP1, I just have her at NP5 (going on 6 for that max ooga booga level).
Problem is, her special damage mod isn't tied to her NP, but to a skill that only lasts for one turn. The other 50% battery tend to be more consistent, though that doesn't mean she's bad.
@@shinryudracruina2906 Out of her niche? Too little, specially when you remenber that DW failed to improve her NP up to this day and that the only buff she can stack with Koyanskaya is her Charisma, which that and getting to use Mana Burst suffices for Saber, but not for Lartoria becauseof the aforementioned problem and that her Mana Burst isn't as broken outside of her niche .
@@engrel I recall Saber and Lartoria having the same charisma while their Mana Bursts do different things: Saber's turn all her cards into buster type while Lartoria's give her a 50% on both chaotic and evil enemies, which there are a lot of with a 5 turn cool down that is paired well with Koya who decreases skill cooldown. Against a Chaotic Evil enemy, she's doing 150% (counting 50% more dmg to her buster) more damage against them for that single turn while her charisma giving like an 18% which, while added onto each other, does 168% more damage. At the bare minimum (idk her exact damage at NP1), if it's 20k dmg she'd be doing 30k because of that regular 50%. 100% (which is the bare minimum against an evil or chaotic enemy) would bring it up to 40k and 150% to like 50k not taking into account her charisma. It's for one turn but against the correct enemy, she's doing massive damage with her NP that already has pierce invincibility. Again, I don't know her exact damage for NP1, so I'm low balling at 20k, if it's a flat 30k or even around 25k, she'd be doing ridiculous damage with that modifier against the right enemy. This is just a single skill, btw. With double Koya (and even a Merlin in the back with plug suit), that's easily passing around 300% more dmg to the right enemy. Only downside is that it's only for a single turn but for that single turn, she'd doing quite a bit of damage. While alone, her NP would be ranging from 20k-30k at NP1, do take into account that her modifiers would be well desired for a chaotic evil enemy. While it's a niche, it's applicable for a large amount of the cast. It's not something like, the star attribute and such.
@@shinryudracruina2906 True, but it's something that she really depends on, while OG Artoria's Mana Burst gives her 30% NP Damage while also having a greater base NP Damage due to the Interlude. Lartoria does have potential, but she has trouble outside of her niche damagewise because of these factors, and you'll need to hit on mobs that, as far as I know, have no aligment, which'll make things much harder for her, specially if you're at a neutral situation.
I only have one question. Would Tesla be on the honorable mentions? I ask this because I summoned him like yesterday and I saw he is really good, but I don't know if he would be good enough for being in this list.
ikr, for bearing the title of one of the most powerful servants in the game, he has such a basic skill kit. its pretty sad since he's one of my favourite characters, but his viability as a unit in game diminishes the further in we go
If the list is ordered purely on damage, Arjuna Alter should be #1. The easiest teams to run Mélusine and Arjuna Alter, everyone with maxed skills and at NP1, are: Team 1: Mélusine + MLB Prisma Cosmos + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Waver. Lanceloli should deal 32298 damage on the 1st wave, 59898 on the 2nd and 99243 on the 3rd. Team 2: Arjuna Alter + Kscope + LV. 10 Mana Loading + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Waver. Junao should deal 69561 on the 1st wave, 86056 on the 2nd and 157145 on the 3rd. All damage numbers calculates are neutral.
From what I have seen, not even Oberon and a lvl 100 BG is enough to make her outdamage Arjuna Alter with a CE like lvl 100 Aerial Ace in a neutral scenario.
Why not black grail on melusine though? I'm using mlb black grail on her and she does insane damage. Not only that you need Oberon to be able to loop with both of them. And Oberon works way better with Melusine than Arjuna Alter
@@bloody5081 Because requiring a super black grail + Koyanskaya + Oberon is quite a tall order. For clarity's sake though, let’s calculate what these two can achieve, with normal Fous, NP1 and maxed skills and perfect supports. Again, everything is neutral: Team 1: Arjuna Alter + LV. 100 Aerial Drive + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Oberon Wave 1 = 84230 Wave 2 = 135963 Wave 3 = 259601 Team 2: Mélusine + LV. 100 Black Grail + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Oberon Wave 1 = 66937 Wave 2 = 85193 Wave 3 = 338506
@@surrialguy Melusine's damage should be way higher than that on turn 2. Did you not calculate her skill 3 into it perhaps? She can cast her skill 3 again already on turn 2 because it has only 5 turn cooldown.
@@bloody5081 I did not forget. Both the 30% NP damage from her 3rd skill and the 20% Buster buff (140% total, on wave 2) from her NP were accounted for. What you can do is use the plugsuit's ATK buff now if you wish. This maneuver would: Raise her damage from 85183 to 110750 for wave 2 Decrease her damage from 338506 to 278769 for wave 3
let's hope they buff him in the future. Hopefully they give him some new damage mod and buff her charge to at least 30% just so i could finally loop with him.
I have already calculated it. Melusine just straight up outdamages Arjuna alter easily. Here is their damage at np1 lvl 90 with normal fous with double koyan and oberon obviously. Fairy Lancelot with lvl 100 Black Grail and Arjuna alter with lvl 100 Aerial Drive. Arjuna Alter Wave 1 84230 Wave 2 135963 Wave 3 259601 Melusine wave 1 93711 wave 2 119269 wave 3 418154
Seibah is the only non50% battery servant that doesn't need atlas nor Oberon to loop Append2 to np in wave1 Seibah battery+ one Koyanskaya for wave 2 The other Koyanskaya and seibah battery again for wave 3 Don't even need the atlas CDR
Given that Morgan is on the list, I’d drop Arjuna Alter, cause in an ideal world where you have both, and you aren’t utilizing Morgan’s Support Utility in your strategy, you’d use Morgan for farming and Arjuna for Challenges realistically! And really for oogabooga Damage and how short and refreshable Ishtars skills are in the Koyanskaya System, she’s the definitive Archer, Monster, Goddess, and just a problem! Again Gil I might use more for Challenge content!
I would hold Artoria's hand and buy her Starbucks, and save up enough money for a nice engagement ring. When the time comes for me to "kiss the bride," I'd then wake up from my dream, restrained in a spiked straight jack, in a chair, in a CIA black cell, underground in Area 51.
Is it just me or is the power crewing getting out of hand?? Like al the 1-3 year servants are just irrelevant because they are power creeping the new servants way too much
It's not a lie, but there's a substantial amount of year 1 and 2 servants that are actually really strong nowadays, like Vlad, Artoria, Ozy and Robin Hood.
Why isn't Summer Abigail in your top 5? Has a 50% battery and higher damage than some of your top 5 or honorable mentions. Foreigner also has a rare class disadvtange. If battery and damage are the only real criteria, esp for 3 turn farming, she should be there. I'd rate rate classes like berserker and the extra classes with rare class disavntages at the top for highest utiltiy.
Her damage comes from her def down and buster res down which can only be used on one or two waves. Even then her damage is low unfortunately hopefully she is buffed soon.
@@asphyrx1477I mean an NP3 Susashi most likely will wipe all 90+ nodes fine. I really wanted to get her at least NP2 but have to settle for the single copy and she manages fine so far but I know if I had NP2+ she’d be looping even with irregular enemies. Her np gain is insane even against a single enemy and now that Oberon is a thing it’s just easier.
@@pianoimpact7699 it’s not exactly a health issue. The irregular nodes don’t have enough enemies to loop with arts, which is where buster comes in. You just get 3 NPs no matter what due to the Koyan system. Arts loopers care about enemy count, so they fall apart on those nodes
I've been using artoria and ibuki with double vitch and oberon (my oberon is not maxed, but vitch is), and ibuki is just shitting on artoria (yes, my ibuki has much higher skill levels, but i think artoria normally struggles a little with wave 2 of farming nodes, because of her 1 turn duration of the second skill)
Ibuki can surpass Artoria's damage when we take into account Koyan's cooldown reduction. Artoria may get an awesome 50% buster up with 30% np damage up, but it only lasts one turn and the most she gets is to double dip on her 18% attack up. Ibuki can get 80% attack up with 60% buster up and that's why she can surpass Artoria on the third wave.
Skill levels play a huge role in "buster looping". Take the following teams for example, where all skills are maxed, all strengthenings done, normal fous and all servants are NP1: Team 1 - Ibuki + Kscope + Mana Loading LV. 10 + 2x Koyanskaya + Atlas MC. Ibuki's expected damage is 36561 on the 1st wave, 51085 on the 2nd, 73712 on the 3rd. Team 2 - Artoria + Kscope + Mana Loading LV. 10 + 2x Koyanskaya + Arctic MC. Artoria's expected damage is 42361 on the 1st wave, 68837 on the 2nd and 118468 on the 3rd. All the damages calculated are against neutral classes.
The thing nobody talks about buster looping is that you actualy need everyone with max skills to reliably do it, so its a really expensive way to farm. Then you have arts looping where you only need max castoria and any good 1/1/1 arts aoe can three turn almost anything, its nuts i tell ya I couldnt three turn farm with morgan till i got to skill lvl7 on her batteries (my koyan wasnt maxed either at the time tho but i lucked out and got oberon as well) i had to append skill her to reliably 3 turn farm with her before maxing her out. And lets not forget koyan, her mats are bitch to farm
With smart skill managing (i.e. use lvl 10 upgraded Mana Burst at turn 2 before using the meter from both Koyans), you can use her Mana Burst twice, which is all you need for farming. Granted, if they ever improve Ibuki's NP, THEN she'll shit at Artoria's damage, but as of now, they are close, with Ibuki faring slightly better at the first and third turns, and doing way better at the first one since you have to save Artoria's Mana Burst for the later waves.
@@hectorgregorio95 It's main usage is to farm those pesky 90+ nodes, otherwise, yeah, might just go with Castoria team, though Arjuna Alter deals great damage if you do have the proper team and skill level.
Like the previous person said. MLB and keep feeding the low rarity c.e's 1,2 and 3 star c.e's into each other. Until its time for super and great success. And don't use the c.e's you get from events that have no effect. Like the ones you got from saber wars. Until it's time for super and great success
@@narikogabiosa799 what I do 1,2 and 3 I MLB them. And keep feeding the same ones till its time for the half of or great and supper succes. I feed them the same copies of themselves. I don't really look at levels. It helps keep the c.e box numbers down.
2 Koyanskaya and Oberon and she can use Black Grail or any CE she wants, and she does insane damage with those, she can also use castoria and 2 Koyanskaya if you want to use her single target NP on wave 1
@@aminebachir3394 No not that, I get the skill but that would be for the first change from Arts to Buster, but the effect does not say it will give battery if she is already in her Buster mode, so I want clarification.
@@ALUCARDAN2 From 0% np bar: Turn 1: 100% from her S3 (and you can also use her S1 for the atk up, since you'll have it back in turn 3) Turn 2: 50% battery x2 from the 2 Koyanskayas Turn 3: 30% from her S1 + 70% from Oberon plugin
But Melusine is _the_ best buster looper... She has absolutely stupid amounts of damage, pierce invul tied to NP, stackable buster up and can assuredly 3loop regardless of any CE you put on her and enemy formation
uhhhh, she is the best buster looper easily just like the other guy said. thanks to her 100% charge she can also use black grail to make already stupid damage even bigger.
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I agree 100% with this list, I would have put Cu Caster in honorable mentions: a 3 star, NP5 that can loop with Black Grail (and he doesn't need any MC).
4 star?
@@sxintst7414 3 you get a copy free in fuki
Arash should get Honorable Mention just for being the Buster AOE servant with the highest kill count.l
highest k^llcount per NP.
he k^lls himself too, so that's 25% extra k^ll per NP right there
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33% from arash pov xD
He is one of the few to be able to kill 4 in one np
Well there's gong...
@@HARSH-ns8bbwhat part of Buster AoE is he supposed to be
"You can't have 3 koyanskayas..."
That didn't age well lol
ik im late but who is 3rd koyan? summer ibuki?
@@Shine-zg4gg koyan light , koyan dark , friend koyanskaya
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But dark Koyan is not a 50% battery giver only 30%
im so glad someone finally opened up with saying "buster looping" is not a thing
i mean it's technically not looping but has the same concept of 3 turning fights.
I agree with you on Artoria Pendragon ( Saber ), she's my strongest servant and god her hits bring tons of damage. She saved me countless times.
Although Oberon's dmg isn't that high, he is one of the few servants that doesn't need an MLB Kscope to loop. You will need to atleast have Skill1 at lvl6 and Skill2 at lvl10. The CE that you need will only be a Non-mlb Kscope or MLB 4* CE that gives 75% Charge and the NP charge Append skill.
Actually you can 6 CE with Oberon if you have his 2nd append skill unlocked .
If you have double Vitch and Waver . 1st turn you use Oberon's 1st and 2nd skill , then waver's 2nd and 3rd skill , you NP then you plugsuit a Vitch you charge his gauge with a Double Vitch then NP his cooldowns should end so you use all of his skills and then Waver's 1st skill then lastly you NP
You don't need an MLB Kscope to 3-turn with buster servants that have at least 30% charge. Unless you really hate the plugsuit, but with the most recent update and being able to fast-forward that stuff (yes, that also works on plugging someone else in), I feel like it's much less of a problem than it ever was before.
That's the beauty of the double Vitch system, she allows any Buster servant with at least a 30% battery with no more than 6 turns on its CD to 3-turn with a 50% starting NP CE.
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Artoria was my first Servant i got and my starter SSR. Im so happy to use her. NP4
You put Eresh on the thumbnail and No eresh in the video? Smh
I remember when Melusine had just been released and a bunch of people were saying she was bad since as an arts servant she only had two skills and back then people completely dismissed buster servants. Times surely have changed, huh?
Idk i read a lot of good opinions on her pre koyan looping. I remember ppl going crazy cuz she was the answer to odd nodes like 1-1-3 though kinda niche at the time she was solid at it. Now with koyan she's busted tho, i regret not pulling harder for her
She's crazy at both being an ST Arts and an AoE Buster, though I did neglect her Buster potential, I have to admit to it.
Gilgamesh sadly has really bad damage at NP1 when farming since his damage mod is for servants. So it's pretty obvious why he isnt here since ZTL is considering servants to be NP1. That ain't a problem for ppl like me who have him lv120, golden, foued, NP4 (Still searching 5th copy) + max append skills. So if you got such Gil don't worry he will loop ;)
Just a question: Can Ishtar (Archer) "loop"? I'm just curious because she has 50% charge and two attack buffs and I wonder if she can work as a "buster looper"
Yes
Yes
Yes
You need apend 2 or superscope for wave 1
And in wave 2 you use Ishtar battery and one Koyanskaya
And in wave 3 you use the other Koyanskaya and Atlas to have Ishtar battery up again
@@lammatt thank you 💜
Alternatively you can plugsuit a 50% charger and use a 50% start CE.
Turn 1. Ishtar battery.
Turn 2. 2 koyanskaya batteries.
Turn 3. Ishtar battery again, plug battery (like Waver or Oberon)
This works for any 6 Turn or shorter cooldown 50% battery. 30% batteries can add append on Turn one and Oberon S1 on Turn 3 for the same effect
If somehow Godjuna reappears in Thanksgiving summoning banner, I willingly to skip Super orion's banner. Maybe...
FUCKING SAME
Me too definitely
It will never happen) Coz if they do it - japan players will burn dw headquarters to the ground.
Totally fair, you can put whatever CE on Mesuline and she can buster farm them.
Black grail, anything..
She can also use castoria and 2 Koyanskaya (instead of Oberon and 2 Koyanskaya) to farm 11x, and 12x enemies by using her single target NP on the first wave or second wave if it's 11x enemies
@@aminebachir3394
I'm working on her to make her lvl 120 with maxed fou's and all..
Her only weakness is saber, the rest is farmable..
Even if sabers are on the field, she can nuke them with black grail double Koyanskaya and Oberon..
I wonder if DW will ever release a servant like her again in the near future..
Isn't Oberon a must if your buster looper has only a 30% battery?since he's the only one with 70% charger
Append skill mana loading gives you 20%
@@jay570gaming9 that's assuming it's a 5t cooldown on the 30% battery
Not a must depending on the servant and if you are using plugsuit or not
Haha Thanks For making This 🔥🔥🔥
And Imagine Having Himiko+Koyanskaya+Morgan= Crits for days
You say this is an easy list to do, I disagree, STRONGLY, as this is probably the most hard one to do because of all of the things you have to consider when thinking about the ranking. For example Artoria has BIG damage, and on paper it is higher than most anyone on there, but the issue is her biggest damage buff can't double stack on herself because it's just for 1 turn. Meanwhile servants like Godjuna or Melusine or Ibuki ramp the hell up in later turns because they can have their strongest buffs active twice.
If damage was the main criteria, Ibuki will out-damage everyone on there except Artoria, because both of her big buffs can activate twice. And speaking of damage... dude, there are just TWO AoE buster servants in the game that can 3-turn with any CE, one is Melusine and I don't think anyone will disagree with her being placed at the top, she's just on another level, so that right there was the easiest servant to place in the top 5. But spots 2 to 5 are frigging HARD. Oh and the SECOND AoE buster servant that can 3-turn with any CE is CASTER CU... dude... you actually forgot Caster Cu, who should have been at least top 3, if not I would argue number 2 because he doesn't just 3-turn farm with any CE... he can do it WITHOUT SWAPPING ANYONE ELSE IN. Hell you don't even need Double Vitch to 3-turn farm with Caster Cu, he is THAT broken. Just anyone with a 20% charge (and a starting 50% charge on himself) or your own Waver (works with any CE with maxed 2nd append skill), a support Vitch and the Atlas MC are enough to get that going.
So yeah, if there's one big criticism I have for this list is that you somehow forgot Caster Cu, who is not just servant number XXX, dude is literally the only one in the game that can 3-turn farm with any CE without a plugsuit... so next time you do one of these lists remember that and give our boy the credit he deserves.
Truee
Also, with Cu, if he has starting NP Append skill at max level with Max level 1st and 2nd skill, you can also use any MC. Here's the sequence:
1st wave: Double Buster buff from the Vitch. Pop First skill and last skill(with max Append skill, that should be 50%). Use 1st Koyanskaya NP charge, 100%.
2nd wave: Cu comes back with 80% Charge, pop 2nd Koyanskaya NP charge(1st and 3rd skill is now off cool down), pop Cu 3rd skill.
3rd wave: Cu comes back with 80% charge, pop First skill, use whatever MC skill you have, profit.
@@Urd-Vidan Yes, but his Append skill is tricky because he was on rate-up before the coins were a thing, and 3star servants don't get coins from before the update. Thus despite having him NP4, I don't have enough for his 2nd append skill, and won't for quite some time.
The hope is by the time the Hogwarts robe (that provides the final 20%) is maxed, I will have enough coins from BOND to be able to move on to another MC.
But also sometimes damage CEs for events will have some kind of starting NP, so in those cases you can just use that and not have to worry about the 2nd append skill.
@@Ebosan87 oh, but I do. :D
My best Buster Farmer besides Morgan, I got him at Level 90, Bond 10, that's also NP5(technically NP9 cus coins), got his NP Append skill, and maxed his skills, so no problem on my end.
About Ibuki, her ramping gets her to go from Mordred-level NP to slighty stronger than Artoria in a similar scenario (both with Double Koyan and Oberon).
As far as I've seen, the strongest ones would be Arjuna Alter for general usage (double Anti-Evil is nothing to scoff at) and Mèlusine , though only when she's at an advantageous scenario. Though, yeah, I suppose Artoria and Ibuki would come right after then, it's been some time since I've seem Artoria's and Ibuki's damage.
I started playing like almost two years ago and i got Artoria within a month after I started playing and i gotta say, even without knowing much of other servants or how to use them efficiently, she is pretty good for a beginner like me, but, the one that always comes in clutch and has helped me a lot is Cu Chulainn
I feel like you forgot about Tesla. Sure, man enemies are common but with Vitch, Tesla has extra damage against all three. There's really nothing stopping him. I would personally put him at 4 and move Morgan down to 5. I believe Tesla outdamages Morgan against neutral enemies even though she is a berserker, assuming they are earth/sky. Not to mention, he does have better buffs on his skills that carry through waves.
Otherwise, I agree with the rest of the list.
Gilgamesh really need a buff. His kit might not be best but yet still good, his hit still one of the best. His skill set is simple, just single line for skill descriptions:’). They probably will never buff him. (If they want to do it, just take every buff in the game (buster, quick,art,extra,def,evade,invincible,sure hit,gut,heal,remove debuff) and put it in his second skill, because everything originally his (dont take it seriously).
I do agree with the list, don’t really mind if my favourite character not mentioned (I’m sorry BB). For farming, i make party with summer BB(starting 50%), space ishtar( starting 50%) and gil (kaleidoscope) anyway. So it doesn’t really matter. Putting gil and summer BB kinda nice ngl. Hopefully i can summon Himiko soon to make the team even weirder. Ahahahha
I don't really see what else you can give him. EX world level np, charisma, np gain up, and a np battery with crit gather. What can they add
Mordred can be a good looper too ok her dmg isn't as strong as artoria but she has the same thing she gets 20% np after her after her clarent blood arthur and she has 30% np and at the last wave she can use her 50% buster up and she can deal a huge amount of dmg if u r fighting an arthur type enemy they r not alot but u can see artria faces at most of the events
Ik she cannt be at the top5 but she is still a decent looper
Came for ereshkigal that doesnt exist :"(
Anyway that's cool too
Melusine and Arjuna alter go brr🤣
Morgan (NP50% CE) + double koyanskaya + oberon = man attr boss killer
I appreciate you saying fair man. Really tho O-beron isn’t hard to say. Say the letter O like you would in the alphabet song, the same way you pronounce the O in OP when you say a servant is OP, and then say beron. Cmon u got this believe in yourself.
My boy Gil needs a buff….. give him buster up, crit damage, evade, NP change and invincibility
Basically give him everything?
He already does enough damage lol. He need either a crit or defensive buff.
he needs survivability or crit dmg
@@velgard. hey Denki! They should buff Nobu right? 😉
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Melusine has been my carry since I pulled her
Me too. Melu NP5 carry me through LB 1-6. I even send Dios twin to oblivion with Melu NP.😋
Dont forget Melusine can use BG because of the battery
I keep forgetting who that is 😭😭. I recognize her as fae lancelot
Am I the only one always waiting in every videos for him to say "Ooga booga damage"?
I'd put Morgan above Arjuna on the account that she has more flexible options for CEs than Arjuna could and can synergize well with Koyan's Mod since she's an Earth, sure it's niche but Man Attribute isn't as rare as finding an Undead Lancer or Rider
Seeing Faecelot (favorite Servant of 2021) at Number 1 sparks joy in me
everyone forgot about tesla
Tesla is underrated, but I'd say Gil is still better
Artororia can technically activate all three of her skills twice on the same turn
Since there all on 5 turn cooldowns
Requires atlas code to so though
I regret not pulling harder for Melusine, got Percival and Parvati spook and then stop rolling cuz Summer was around the corner. Maybe ill save for her on Na since i got Spishtar so no actual need of Summer kama there (except she's waifu) Also Morgan is top 1 on my heart, she's great
Is Lancer 476 a new servant in the Chinese version? Lol
Must be a relative of Soldier 76.
tammo vitch literally out dps cleo and semi both who have interludes as a "support" fuckin lel
is koyanskaya really that good as an attacker? mine hits like a wet noodle.
She's not great but she is useable
Bro what's this, you've been slandering the king of heroes😭😂 he's going to smite you
still good his NP is more to deal with Servant enemies Except for some servants who strong against his Noble Phantasm
@@changsiah2 Gilgamesh going to smite him
@@changsiah2 all 8 servants that don't take extra damage
For some odd reason, I have every premium looping servants in the lancer class on every color.
Summer Melt(np3), I pulled for cuz Castoria hype and insurance if(and I did) fail with SpIshtar
Eresh(np1), random single gave her to me
Lartoria(np1), thanksgiving spook
Parvati(np2), regular spook
I wouldn’t really put Godjuna up there, since among everyone on the list he requires not only Double Koyan but also Oberon to be able to 3 turn spam with Plugsuit. He does the most damage, but if the other servants here get to use those 3 supports with plugsuit then they can match up to his damage as well, while still able to do 3 turn NP spam just fine with just Double Koyan
Melusine deserves 1st place, but I’d personally put Artoria as 2nd since she’s the most flexible among Buster AoE and doesn’t require any specific MC with just a normal Kaleidoscope and append skill. Other good candidates are Ibuki with her omni pierce and 3 turn buffs which is valuable for CQs, and Caster Cu for being able to use BG as well as needing only Double Koyan without a 3rd support
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Human is better than round table because this is comparing them based on farming, and when you are farming, you'll be encountering humans a lot more than round table knights.
I'd argue Round Tables actually better, Human will only ever affect waves 1 and 2, and the meaty enemies are typically wave 3. Round Table Knights is a little niche but they definitely do show up in events since the bosses for nodes are always servants.
not fairy man but moth man lol.
I don't know why but I completely forgot Melusine was a thing. I was so confused when he put Junao 2nd
Wait why isn't cu caster on here
He deserves it because the huge np batteries
@@mythicalskeleton1546 because he is 💀
Probably because as a 3* his damage output is way lower than the others?
@@eeriecode1628 Not with a Black Grail it isn't, not to mention the buffs from two Vitchs. He will hit through most anything, more so and harder than some of the names on this list.
Neah, he simply forgot about Caster Cu, that's the only real explanation. There is no AoE buster servant in the game with lower requirements for 3-turn farming than Caster Cu, and the fact he never even mentioned him in passing is definite proof of that.
Finally the monke tier list
Funnily enough I think Oberon should be nº1 on this list. Why? He's the ONLY (EDIT: 5*, this matters) buster servant that can 3T loop with the Koyanskaya system while carrying the Black Grail CE. That skyrockets his damage, and on wave 3 it's just bonkers.
The Pretender class, much like Alter Ego, has its offensive disatvantages against cavalry classes, but other than that it's pretty much a semi-Zerker offensively while not being as frail.
Technically caster cu can also loop with black grail so he isn't the only one that can do it
That's wrong. Cú Chulainn (caster) and Emiya can run BG as well.
Oh shit he seriously can 3 turn farm with BG? I didnt knew that, gonna try it out once I max his skills
Um, Caster Cu?
@@Urd-Vidan Yes. You need Cú's 1st and 3rd skill maxed as well as his mana loading at LV. 10.
1st wave: 20% (mana loading) + 30% (1st skill) + 3rd skill + 50% (Koyanskaya) = 100%
2nd wave: 80% (3rd skill activated on the 1st wave) + 50% (Koyanskaya) + 3rd skill = 130%
3rd wave: 80% (3rd skill activated on the 2nd wave) + 30% (1st skill) = 110%
karna is still number 1 in my heart. it still hurts seeing 45% even with the append skill
In term of dmg, Junao come at top.
In term of looping, Melusine need no battery CE, you can always 6 slot CE farming with her.
Because Melusine can use any CE, specifically a Black Grail, which becomes increasingly more important with Oberon (because of his 3rd skill on turn 3) she actually does the most damage of anyone. So even with neutral damage she will still out-damage Junao, believe it or not.
Caster Cu is just as crazy, and the biggest omission here, as he can 3-turn with any CE without a plugsuit. Sure, he won't do anywhere near Melusine or Junao levels of damage, but against assassins, provided you have him at least NP2 (which is not hard to do, as he will be on rate-up on Morgan's first banner) he does more than enough damage.
@@Ebosan87 Even with all the boosts she can get from a lvl 100 BG, Oberon (who'd double up to 140% NP Damage in this scenario) and everything else she can stack, Arjuna Alter still hits slighty harder than her in the Oberon buff turn, and hits way harder beforehand, partly because she can only pop Dragonheart at turns 1 and 3.
@@Ebosan87 Nah, I ve count when both buster support released. With the same Wvitch + oberon setup, Melusine with MLB BG still below Junao with MLB Aerial Drive. Partly because Junao can stack 100% powermod at w2.
@@engrel On turn 1 and 2, sure. But not by that much, since NP1 Melusine deals 93k damage and 120k damage on Turn 1 and 2 respectively at Neutral damage with that setup, while Godjuna deals 120k with Berserker advantage using the setup you mentioned.
But on Turn 3 with both using an Oberon support, Melusine deals higher damage at 410k on neutral while Godjuna deals 380k with zerk advantage and his powermod double stack.
@@TheAnaz41745 With Mèlusine using a lvl 100 BG, stacking Dragonheart (ATK+80%), stacking her 3 Buster buffs (60% Buster at t3), getting 30% NP Damage once from the second Ray Horizon, another 30% from Oberon and his 50% Buster + doubling NP Damage and 100% Buster from both Koyanskayas , I got 335,374 neutral on her, while Godjuna got 328,037 on average by stacking 30% ATK twice, 50% Special ATK twice, using lvl 100 Holy Night Supper (or Aerial Ace, it barely matters), his 20% Buster debuff (I fucked up in that part, I was considering 30%) and the buffs from the supports. True, she did win at t3, but it wasn't as large a victory as your numbers indicate and she still deals wonky damage at t2, which can be a problem since she can't stack Dragonheart that soon. Why are both numbers you gave that big anyways?
Artoria in the list
Me : feel happy after she spook on round table banner.
Hope you got the servants to make it work tho
I was about to recommend karna when he said hes gonna smack somebody recommending Karna. Bust my gut out laughing alone. Good vid
Invest Morgan or Melusine as my main dps?
TL:DR Melusine has stupid damage AND great versatility. I would heavily argue her over morgan.
Melusine is one of 3 currently available servants who can functionally run "The Black Grail" which gives a ludicrous amount of damage. Combine that with ramping damage from her np loops (both arts ST and buster AOE) and her great personal buffs, you have consistent and significant damage.
Also the fact that melusine has more than 1 niche means there are more applications for her. Playing one of those quests with 1-1-x formations? have melusine ST the first two, then shift to aoe mode to take out the last wave.
She works with both the castoria system for single target shenanigans, and fits into the koyanskaya+oberon system for buster looping.
i would say Melusine. with BIG but(t), if you have both Koyan and Oberon. you need both to be able to loop her while Morgan you will only need either Koyan or Oberon and/ take Waver from the shop.
NP5 Godjuna, my soul and body are both ready!
As someone who only plays NA now.. Godjuna is number 1 for me till the JP ones finally arrive. 🙃
We cannot buster loop before koyanskaya on 6th anniversary, so before that this tier list doesn't exist on NA at all)
He'll still be the strongest, overall, after you get Koyanskaya and Oberon, so there's that.
Great list!
Thought Roma would be on the list, if I am not mistaken he has to have the most damaging np in the entire game by miles,(with Roman stacks of course)
Roma with double Boudicca feels like a nuke sometime. More a gig than an actual workin team tho. Doesn't have a battery to be in this list.
@@glebscheglov9291 He does have a 30% battery, that's all you need.
Man, this video sure will look silly if servant #476 isn't a Chinese Lancer or Archer.
This clickbait...
Where's ROMAAAAA
Nice list, now Godjuna rerun when?
In new year?
Ngl, i was expecting Godjuna to fit the 4th or 5th spot because he only has the 30% battery, while Morgan has 50%, but the dmg is just a bit too far off ig
Godjuna is number 1 3t farmer in the game between any card type, if you are playing double Koyanskaya + Oberon. I literally farm anything with this team. Event farm quests, story, cq - it doesn't matter. Well, my gojuna is np 4, so it makes sense.
Godjuna's can 3t with ease using Double Koyanskaya and Oberon and you can get the 20% initial NP bar passive to use 50% charge CEs instead of Kaleido.
Hello, can you share the excel, i want to know more about buster looping
Me to I need this List would be awesome.😘
Do you guys still want it. Is the question
Looking forward to ST servants. Then you should do Crit servants after.
Since it' on the thumbnail, what about gilgamesh? I'm using him theese days and honestly i expected better. So sad because he's literally my one and only favourite servant
Just do it
U need oberon plus maxed out append due to him being a 30% charger
I think Lartoria's should be on the list because of her mana burst buff giving her a 50% damage up against chaotic and evil enemies. She also has a 50% battery that cleanses debuffs and she does pretty good damage.
Idk, maybe I'm just being bias. I don't know what's her damage is at NP1, I just have her at NP5 (going on 6 for that max ooga booga level).
Problem is, her special damage mod isn't tied to her NP, but to a skill that only lasts for one turn. The other 50% battery tend to be more consistent, though that doesn't mean she's bad.
@@Talyrion
How much damage she does at NP1?
@@shinryudracruina2906 Out of her niche? Too little, specially when you remenber that DW failed to improve her NP up to this day and that the only buff she can stack with Koyanskaya is her Charisma, which that and getting to use Mana Burst suffices for Saber, but not for Lartoria becauseof the aforementioned problem and that her Mana Burst isn't as broken outside of her niche .
@@engrel
I recall Saber and Lartoria having the same charisma while their Mana Bursts do different things: Saber's turn all her cards into buster type while Lartoria's give her a 50% on both chaotic and evil enemies, which there are a lot of with a 5 turn cool down that is paired well with Koya who decreases skill cooldown. Against a Chaotic Evil enemy, she's doing 150% (counting 50% more dmg to her buster) more damage against them for that single turn while her charisma giving like an 18% which, while added onto each other, does 168% more damage. At the bare minimum (idk her exact damage at NP1), if it's 20k dmg she'd be doing 30k because of that regular 50%. 100% (which is the bare minimum against an evil or chaotic enemy) would bring it up to 40k and 150% to like 50k not taking into account her charisma.
It's for one turn but against the correct enemy, she's doing massive damage with her NP that already has pierce invincibility. Again, I don't know her exact damage for NP1, so I'm low balling at 20k, if it's a flat 30k or even around 25k, she'd be doing ridiculous damage with that modifier against the right enemy. This is just a single skill, btw. With double Koya (and even a Merlin in the back with plug suit), that's easily passing around 300% more dmg to the right enemy. Only downside is that it's only for a single turn but for that single turn, she'd doing quite a bit of damage.
While alone, her NP would be ranging from 20k-30k at NP1, do take into account that her modifiers would be well desired for a chaotic evil enemy.
While it's a niche, it's applicable for a large amount of the cast. It's not something like, the star attribute and such.
@@shinryudracruina2906 True, but it's something that she really depends on, while OG Artoria's Mana Burst gives her 30% NP Damage while also having a greater base NP Damage due to the Interlude. Lartoria does have potential, but she has trouble outside of her niche damagewise because of these factors, and you'll need to hit on mobs that, as far as I know, have no aligment, which'll make things much harder for her, specially if you're at a neutral situation.
I only have one question.
Would Tesla be on the honorable mentions?
I ask this because I summoned him like yesterday and I saw he is really good, but I don't know if he would be good enough for being in this list.
Pretty sure he would
He can almost outdamage gilgamesh when the enemy have the trait that the NP give extra DMG without buffs outside of the overcharge
He can accumulate some hefty buffs if you're lucky to not have his NP Damage buff fail.
He can 3T. This video wasn't made for completeness, just ztl's top 5.
With these new servants ridiculous skills, Gilgamesh really needs a buff lol
ikr, for bearing the title of one of the most powerful servants in the game, he has such a basic skill kit. its pretty sad since he's one of my favourite characters, but his viability as a unit in game diminishes the further in we go
They have buffed Artoria for how many times already? And they can't buff Gilgamesh for some reason even though he's the limited one. Weird as hell.
cant believe you didn't call him moth man
That's because there is only one true moth man
Where is shakespeare
Artoria is number one regardless of the results
If the list is ordered purely on damage, Arjuna Alter should be #1. The easiest teams to run Mélusine and Arjuna Alter, everyone with maxed skills and at NP1, are:
Team 1: Mélusine + MLB Prisma Cosmos + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Waver. Lanceloli should deal 32298 damage on the 1st wave, 59898 on the 2nd and 99243 on the 3rd.
Team 2: Arjuna Alter + Kscope + LV. 10 Mana Loading + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Waver. Junao should deal 69561 on the 1st wave, 86056 on the 2nd and 157145 on the 3rd.
All damage numbers calculates are neutral.
From what I have seen, not even Oberon and a lvl 100 BG is enough to make her outdamage Arjuna Alter with a CE like lvl 100 Aerial Ace in a neutral scenario.
Why not black grail on melusine though? I'm using mlb black grail on her and she does insane damage. Not only that you need Oberon to be able to loop with both of them. And Oberon works way better with Melusine than Arjuna Alter
@@bloody5081 Because requiring a super black grail + Koyanskaya + Oberon is quite a tall order. For clarity's sake though, let’s calculate what these two can achieve, with normal Fous, NP1 and maxed skills and perfect supports. Again, everything is neutral:
Team 1: Arjuna Alter + LV. 100 Aerial Drive + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Oberon
Wave 1 = 84230
Wave 2 = 135963
Wave 3 = 259601
Team 2: Mélusine + LV. 100 Black Grail + 2x Koyanskaya + Plugsuit + Oberon
Wave 1 = 66937
Wave 2 = 85193
Wave 3 = 338506
@@surrialguy Melusine's damage should be way higher than that on turn 2. Did you not calculate her skill 3 into it perhaps? She can cast her skill 3 again already on turn 2 because it has only 5 turn cooldown.
@@bloody5081 I did not forget. Both the 30% NP damage from her 3rd skill and the 20% Buster buff (140% total, on wave 2) from her NP were accounted for. What you can do is use the plugsuit's ATK buff now if you wish. This maneuver would:
Raise her damage from 85183 to 110750 for wave 2
Decrease her damage from 338506 to 278769 for wave 3
great vid
Have a nice day. On a side note, yay for Morgan being on the list!
Rip karna with a 25% battery…
let's hope they buff him in the future. Hopefully they give him some new damage mod and buff her charge to at least 30% just so i could finally loop with him.
ayo great video bro, but where tf is the thanksgiving banner lmao
What date r we supposed to get the thanksgiving banner?
Tbh even with Melusine 100% np charge I think Arjuna is better but it's ok, now Morgan behind Artoria doesn't make sense for me
It's the 20% NP refund. It gives Artoria some wiggle room in terms of starting CE that Morgan doesn't have.
I have already calculated it. Melusine just straight up outdamages Arjuna alter easily. Here is their damage at np1 lvl 90 with normal fous with double koyan and oberon obviously. Fairy Lancelot with lvl 100 Black Grail and Arjuna alter with lvl 100 Aerial Drive.
Arjuna Alter
Wave 1 84230
Wave 2 135963
Wave 3 259601
Melusine
wave 1 93711
wave 2 119269
wave 3 418154
Seibah is the only non50% battery servant that doesn't need atlas nor Oberon to loop
Append2 to np in wave1
Seibah battery+ one Koyanskaya for wave 2
The other Koyanskaya and seibah battery again for wave 3
Don't even need the atlas CDR
I have a Np2 Mordred should I use my special summon on an np 1 Artoria? Or should I Np3 Mordred?
Awesome 👍👍👍
Given that Morgan is on the list, I’d drop Arjuna Alter, cause in an ideal world where you have both, and you aren’t utilizing Morgan’s Support Utility in your strategy, you’d use Morgan for farming and Arjuna for Challenges realistically! And really for oogabooga Damage and how short and refreshable Ishtars skills are in the Koyanskaya System, she’s the definitive Archer, Monster, Goddess, and just a problem! Again Gil I might use more for Challenge content!
In an ideal world, you also have Koyanskaya and Oberon, so you stick with Arjuna Alter either way.
Morgan is number one in my heart
I would hold Artoria's hand and buy her Starbucks, and save up enough money for a nice engagement ring. When the time comes for me to "kiss the bride," I'd then wake up from my dream, restrained in a spiked straight jack, in a chair, in a CIA black cell, underground in Area 51.
Are there timecodes for this?
Is it just me or is the power crewing getting out of hand?? Like al the 1-3 year servants are just irrelevant because they are power creeping the new servants way too much
It's not a lie, but there's a substantial amount of year 1 and 2 servants that are actually really strong nowadays, like Vlad, Artoria, Ozy and Robin Hood.
Maou Nobu is the strongest Buster AoE SSR Servant, pls nerf
i honestly prefer morgan over Melusine granted my Melusine isn't fully kitted out yet so isn't at full potential.
I already know who's top 1
I love red cards
mfw np5 Arthoria and np5 Arjuna Alter
Why isn't Summer Abigail in your top 5? Has a 50% battery and higher damage than some of your top 5 or honorable mentions. Foreigner also has a rare class disadvtange.
If battery and damage are the only real criteria, esp for 3 turn farming, she should be there. I'd rate rate classes like berserker and the extra classes with rare class disavntages at the top for highest utiltiy.
Her damage comes from her def down and buster res down which can only be used on one or two waves. Even then her damage is low unfortunately hopefully she is buffed soon.
DMG too low for NP1
Neutral Damage for NP1. Needs NP upgrade.
"buster looping" sounds super complicated I'll just stick with my np3 summer musashi and double castoria
Only problem is when you can’t. Irregular nodes do exist and stop arts loopers from doing their thing.
I thought the same until I see the 2-1-2 nodes in jp
90++ nodes say hi. Buster is the way
@@asphyrx1477I mean an NP3 Susashi most likely will wipe all 90+ nodes fine. I really wanted to get her at least NP2 but have to settle for the single copy and she manages fine so far but I know if I had NP2+ she’d be looping even with irregular enemies. Her np gain is insane even against a single enemy and now that Oberon is a thing it’s just easier.
@@pianoimpact7699 it’s not exactly a health issue. The irregular nodes don’t have enough enemies to loop with arts, which is where buster comes in. You just get 3 NPs no matter what due to the Koyan system. Arts loopers care about enemy count, so they fall apart on those nodes
I've been using artoria and ibuki with double vitch and oberon (my oberon is not maxed, but vitch is), and ibuki is just shitting on artoria (yes, my ibuki has much higher skill levels, but i think artoria normally struggles a little with wave 2 of farming nodes, because of her 1 turn duration of the second skill)
Ibuki can surpass Artoria's damage when we take into account Koyan's cooldown reduction. Artoria may get an awesome 50% buster up with 30% np damage up, but it only lasts one turn and the most she gets is to double dip on her 18% attack up. Ibuki can get 80% attack up with 60% buster up and that's why she can surpass Artoria on the third wave.
Skill levels play a huge role in "buster looping". Take the following teams for example, where all skills are maxed, all strengthenings done, normal fous and all servants are NP1:
Team 1 - Ibuki + Kscope + Mana Loading LV. 10 + 2x Koyanskaya + Atlas MC. Ibuki's expected damage is 36561 on the 1st wave, 51085 on the 2nd, 73712 on the 3rd.
Team 2 - Artoria + Kscope + Mana Loading LV. 10 + 2x Koyanskaya + Arctic MC. Artoria's expected damage is 42361 on the 1st wave, 68837 on the 2nd and 118468 on the 3rd.
All the damages calculated are against neutral classes.
The thing nobody talks about buster looping is that you actualy need everyone with max skills to reliably do it, so its a really expensive way to farm. Then you have arts looping where you only need max castoria and any good 1/1/1 arts aoe can three turn almost anything, its nuts i tell ya
I couldnt three turn farm with morgan till i got to skill lvl7 on her batteries (my koyan wasnt maxed either at the time tho but i lucked out and got oberon as well) i had to append skill her to reliably 3 turn farm with her before maxing her out. And lets not forget koyan, her mats are bitch to farm
With smart skill managing (i.e. use lvl 10 upgraded Mana Burst at turn 2 before using the meter from both Koyans), you can use her Mana Burst twice, which is all you need for farming. Granted, if they ever improve Ibuki's NP, THEN she'll shit at Artoria's damage, but as of now, they are close, with Ibuki faring slightly better at the first and third turns, and doing way better at the first one since you have to save Artoria's Mana Burst for the later waves.
@@hectorgregorio95 It's main usage is to farm those pesky 90+ nodes, otherwise, yeah, might just go with Castoria team, though Arjuna Alter deals great damage if you do have the proper team and skill level.
Anyone know a good guide for making CE bombs? (Just recently learned about those)
Mlb 2 star ce
Keep feeding it low rarity ces, exp ces, or any ce you do not care for until it reaches lvl50 or 55
Boom there’s your ce bomb
Like the previous person said. MLB and keep feeding the low rarity c.e's 1,2 and 3 star c.e's into each other. Until its time for super and great success. And don't use the c.e's you get from events that have no effect. Like the ones you got from saber wars. Until it's time for super and great success
@@valdr2286 Do I just feed it base lvl 1 star ce's or is there a certain amount of level I should put on my fodder ce's like lvl 5-10 ish?
@@narikogabiosa799 what I do 1,2 and 3 I MLB them. And keep feeding the same ones till its time for the half of or great and supper succes. I feed them the same copies of themselves. I don't really look at levels. It helps keep the c.e box numbers down.
@@narikogabiosa799 feed the same copies of each other even after MLB
Wait, can Melusine 3t?
2 Koyanskaya and Oberon and she can use Black Grail or any CE she wants, and she does insane damage with those, she can also use castoria and 2 Koyanskaya if you want to use her single target NP on wave 1
Imagine doubting a 130% battery buster when 30% batteries can 3t 🙄
@@aminebachir3394 No not that, I get the skill but that would be for the first change from Arts to Buster, but the effect does not say it will give battery if she is already in her Buster mode, so I want clarification.
@@ALUCARDAN2 From 0% np bar:
Turn 1: 100% from her S3 (and you can also use her S1 for the atk up, since you'll have it back in turn 3)
Turn 2: 50% battery x2 from the 2 Koyanskayas
Turn 3: 30% from her S1 + 70% from Oberon plugin
@@someoneelse4939 Thanks, I actually didn't know she had two batteries. I can actually accept her position now.
So just straight ignoring best Buster looping servants altogether in favor of Fairylot. I see, i see
But Melusine is _the_ best buster looper... She has absolutely stupid amounts of damage, pierce invul tied to NP, stackable buster up and can assuredly 3loop regardless of any CE you put on her and enemy formation
uhhhh, she is the best buster looper easily just like the other guy said. thanks to her 100% charge she can also use black grail to make already stupid damage even bigger.
And with max Oberon 3rd skill put on Melusine with maxed BG plus 2 Koyan. Everything goes doom even saber boss.
Fgo youtuber pretending he’d be able to successfully throw hands against even a damp tissue
Wild
blud forgot to switch accounts
@@fishfood8711 ?
@@fishfood8711😂