I used to edit for a living... nice video with good production quality, like graphics for wrench sizes. Also, good content and work ethics/style. Thank you for sharing your project, Much appreciated
Thanks for the feedback. It means a lot. I know lots of creators tend to outsource the editing after a while, but it's my favorite part of the process. Crawling around under the RV in the cold getting multiple angles...not as much fun but great for editing :)
I’m a 56 year old female. I loved the video. I’m saving this video for the future when we get a large RV to live in. Now my husband and I are not able to do it ourselves but I’m sharing it with two other people so they can help out. Thank you so very much, it was very well recorded. You make a great instructor. 👍🇨🇦
@@RVwithTito I just saw your video for the first time I watched a few of them and kept them safe. Either next year or the year after is when I’ll need the video to have someone help me out so now they don’t know about it yet. I thought you did very well and the people I know can put it up on the hoist. Thank you for responding take care love your work.👍🥰🇨🇦
Just and update to say that I was able to level the RV for an overnighter using just the air bags and remote (no wedges required). I was pretty happy with that.
Great video!!, I have been contemplating these. Question, and I'm sure this is a "your mileage may vary" type question, but how much "lift" can you get from FULLY deflated to 100%? I too have a 32' class c, that really sits low in the back. I have a hump in my driveway as I exit/enter that bottoms out the center of my wheel span (Generator exhaust hangs lowest point) that I use heavy ramps to pull in/out of driveway. I would like to be able to inflate to max, pull in/out, then adjust for ride. Have you considered Fronts too?
Hi Brian, Great video as your usual. I would hope that you do a follow up video about the reliability of the air bag system. My ‘90’s class A came with an air bag system. I think it was Firestone. The bags failed after about 7 years and maybe 15,000 miles. I suspect the rubber material failed from road exposure stress. Hopefully the current material is far superior. A future video would be very insightful about longevity. Thanks....
Nice job I have and old RV as well it is fun doing these projects on them for sure my RV came with their bags but to be able to adjust them on the road is a good thing if you had a tank you could have on board air for bicycles RV tires so on Have a great day
Our Sunseeker 2290S class C came with the Firestone air bags standard. When we took it home the dealer had not inflated them and the ride was very rough and "tippy". Once I pumped them up the ride became a dream! I run them between 50 and 75 psi depending on the load. After that bumpy ride home I can not imagine not having air bags.
Brian, I have a 32' Winnebago outlook with the same air bags on it. With a full load of water and gas I keep the bags at approx 50lbs on it. Doesn't have the automatic air pump on it, just manual fill. Really takes the load off and has a very nice ride. You did a really nice job on the installation and I took advantage of the discount on the recliners from RecPro. Thanks, I'll be watching you. Earl
Good to know. I'll be experimenting to get the right setting on mine when we hit the road again soon. Glad you got those recliners. Hope they're working out great.
I bought this kit and I’ve installed the air compressor that I have not installed the bags yet. I have installed the front air lift 1000 bags on the front. Installed new front and rear hellwig sway bars. Also Roadmaster steering stabilizers, Plus Bilstein front shocks.
@@RVwithTito You know I follow your channel Because it’s a class C E450 as well. Your info and ideas have been a great help. Solar is next and i have all the parts except the panels and when i leave for Arizona i will pick those up next. I also have to get the batteries as well. Big Bucks looking at the battle borns.
I applaud you for the great camera shots. I can't imagine the frustration and added time of setting up the camera for every shot, and making sure you have correct lighting. Great Video Brian !!
Your ambition for doing these mods is Great. I would like to think I could do an install like that but.......As someone that usually can only do a project with a minimum of 2-3 trips back to hardware store I will leave it to the pros. PS You are a PRO in my eyes for sure!
Nah. I don't see myself as a pro by any means, but my projects do involve a significant amount of research and planning ahead of time. Glad you're enjoying the mods. Thanks so much for the vote of confidence :)
Hi Brian. I have an old transit with a dunlop air support. I needed to reallocate the handbrake adjuster because the baggs lift the springs and the adjuster 'thinks' the van is empty, wich isn't of course. Great pumpsystem. Thanks for sharing.
You done a good job I’m a retired IBEW Wireman You know howto think having good tools helps I have put th3 Firestone air bags on a couple trucks I had they have a new system now called liuqild springs that make your RV ride like a Class diesel pusher they are expencive most guys put them on Class A gas rigs
Well done friend! Pretty sure I will tackle this project on my work truck. It rode so dang ruff. Please let me know if this softened your ride. My 2010 E450 absolutely is an excruciating experience driving around San Antonio, aka Pot Hole City. I just installed monroe-matic RV shocks today and noticed that every single joint in the rear suspension is close to metal vs metal. The hard rubber suspension parts are so hard I'm convinced they are useless. Of course yours is in better shape, so I am going to listen to your response. Thanks again for this post
Great Job Brian, I noticed you used the Multi tool on the long bolts, great application, maybe you could trim the bolts on your diesel heater exhaust too before they bite you... You made that install look too easy. I'm working on installing a Center Point Air Suspension from Trail Air on my triple axle Keystone Raptor right now. Getting ready to run the Air lines on Monday. I'll use the cutting block for making sure I get square cuts too. Thanks again!
Glad you noticed the cutting block. I just grabbed some scrap wood and cut a couple of grooves. Worked great. Yeah...the multi-tool worked great on those bolts. Good luck with your project!
Check out the use of ping tanks. I installed the same bags on my Jayco 29MV but between the air inlet and the bag I installed 2, 2 gallon air tanks(1 tank per bag). It changes the “spring rate” of the bag thus creating a poor mans volumetric air bag.
As usual a great video. I appreciate time and work that you put into setting up all the shots to show in great detail what and how you are doing the job.
Having the ability to adjust the airbags from the cab is crucial. You can adapt the ride feel as needed and adjust for certain load outs. I once had to drive few hours with all of my tanks full and the airbags made the vehicle handle a lot better. Yes I said all my tanks, fresh(because I could fill it), and grey and black because we were in a driveway for a few days.
Thanks. I like this sort of improvement content. Funny my RV is parked on gravel road base too so I save my back with plywood or cardboard. I may add a kit to my E250 extended frame motovan. I added the air lift bags to the inside of front coil springs and they really improve the front end performance on the e250.
Tito, as always, informative, well organized, and you keep it simple. Will put bags on my dually flatbed because i'm putting on an Arctic Fox cabover and pulling a boat. Thanks for the DIY....
Sorry about that. I'll keep trying this stuff so you can figure out whether or not to buy :) Yes that Hellwig sway bar and shocks upgrade has made a huge difference.
Great content as usual Brian. We have the Firestone brand on our 32' Sunseeker 3170DS but only manual air Schrader valves. The system you are using is a bit too pricey for me. I plan to buy two cheap 12v air compressors. Then mount them with a gauge, a switch, air valve on each side in a storage area. THen when needed just flip the switch to add air or open the valve to let some air out.
Always wear eye protection when under a vehicle, I understand it can be a bit distracting at first however, a chunk of rust landing just the right way amounts to zero fun.
I installed a set on my F-250 FX4 to reduce the sag. They seemed to help but I lost my comfy ride. I manually pump up mine until I can get the time to install the compressor. Thanks for sharing! Steve
Really good video. I have the Firestone system on a 2007 Coach House Platinum. I would change to the Airlift just for the Bluetooth control. Keep these great videos coming you do a great job.
The nice thing is how airbags not only smooth out the harshness of the bumps, but help with the side to side sway as well. Airtabs also help control the sway created when a semi or crosswind creates this. I swear by airtabs, as they make an incredible difference on high profile vehicles. There are cheaper clones of the airtabs out there, but airtabs still work the best.
I have Firestone Ride Rites on both my F350 truck I pull a toy hauler with and a class-C motor-home. I noticed on the class-c the leaf's were inverted from over weight from the factory, AND according to the E450 factory specs. On both I did simple air valves I check prior to leaving for a trip, but having a on-board compressor would be nice. I was thinking about looking next into coil-over rear springs on the MH since I pull a trailer. Good videos, especially adding the wrench size for people tired of making multiple trips to the roller cabinet from underneath. BTW- on my Class-C it's a 2011 Winnebago Cambria more like a B+, I added 4" lift and 4 wheel drive conversion w/manual locking hubs, front leafs and straight axle from Ford. The rear air bags allow me to level the rig perfect depending on load. Thanks
@@RVwithTito It's 30' intended for driving over mountain passes in the winter to the Utah desert where we spend as many cold days as possible. Next up for us is 'lion' batteries and get rid of the lead acid.
Great video Brian! I put airlift 7500 bags on my 3500HD and it made a world of difference while towing our fifth wheel. Keep an eye on your heat shield, mine rusted out at the tabs after about a year or so. Also keep an eye on the electrical plug going into the compressor computer, I had one get water in the plug area and it fried the computer, the plug is not very water tight.
Hey James. I'm glad we had a few days last week that it wasn't raining :) I'll keep an eye on those things. I have some left over exhaust wrap that I thought of using instead of the heat shield. Who knows, I may do that. BTW I did see in the instructions that they recommend keeping a drip loop in wiring harness before the plug.
Great install video! my only question is about how many inches can it raise the rear? getting to my house I have a steep hill and the back is scrapping a bit I'm wondering if this can solve my scrapping problem? any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!
Awesome job as always. I like the fact that every time you do something to your rv... its not some flashy thing... but a well thought out adult useful thing, whether its sway bars or ride control. In my experience ride height is something you ignore until screeeeech... There is a deep gash in asphalt in Tampa, Fl and Salem, SC. Dont ask me how i know... these gas stations with their weird sloped entrances man...
Just a thought….I find that when crimping a butt connector (or other type), instead of using two hands to fit the wire into the connector, then having to pick up the crimper tool, which could allow the two ends to separate a little and give a poor connection……..I always first insert the butt connector into the crimp tool, then simply use that tool to mate the butt connector and the wire(s), then squeeze the crimper. Much faster, and you can more easily see that the crimp is solid. Just saying…… thanks!
Just in case you have a change in attacking this situation, there's a company in San Diego that specializes in 4wd and off road stuff that I used for a front end lift on my 2wd van. Lately, they've been doing a lot of upgrading of class C RV suspensions with new spring kits instead of air bags. Just a thought.
Yes. Jeremy over at Weldtech Designs in San Diego. I've seen all of those. Definitely something to consider in the future to make my Class C more Bad-Ass.
Great video. You make it look to simple. Always enjoy watching your excellent video production and interesting projects. Let’s see. Suggestions. Do the mod when it is warm or run the engine briefly and the exhaust pipe will become a heater. Install a car lift at your home for the future modifications you will surely make. Buy a new RV that has auto leveling suspension. 🤪
Brim, hopefully I won’t ever have to do this, but as always, amazing work. I love your array of tools; you are well equipped & you impress me on each & every video. BTW, I am waiting for my Titofied hoodie I ordered happy to wear your legacy.
Tito I always give you a thumbs up buddy. Love your videos, also if you don’t mind given the link to where you bought them I didn’t really check but maybe you already did. But I’m doing the van build I have a Ford transit and I’m thinking I may stick their bags underneath the back of it. Me and my wife we currently live in Jacksonville Florida. Bill and Anh. We are Owner Operators in a semi truck. And will be back in town in a couple weeks we’re here in Perry Florida picking up wise potato chips load.
That was an excellent DIY project, and thank you for putting the video out there for us. I have yet to purchase a rig, and about 8 months away yet. I am learning so much about things I can and may want to do after becoming an RV owner. Thank you again, and I really enjoy your videos!
All I have to say excellent video the sound the image the position of the camera all it’s perfect , question for you that bag is reading at 5000 pounds that’s mean 2500 for each side and you probably have more than 5000 pounds and that’s my case in my car you don’t think that can be a problem. I will have to do that in my car it’s E 350 plumbing body with almost 10.000 pounds.and my rear it’s sagging and doesn’t look good at all, and also not drive very well
Thanks Brian! I also have a 32 foot class c. E450 V10. The air bags were installed before I owned it so I have no user manual. Do you adjust the air pressure every trip or just leave it at a set psi. hopefully the manufacturer will be stamped on the air bags so I can get a manual.
I just eyeball it measuring the gap between the top of the tire and wheel well. I also make minor adjustments to get level at camp. Just start with 50% then adjust as needed for the support and leveling you need.
Thanks Brian. Looking to do the same thing to my Class C. Actually, I am planing on new shocks, swaybars, trackbar, and Sumo Spings up front. Was going to do the Sumo Spings in the rear instead of the airbags but decided that This was the better way to go. It allows me to adjust the springs which, in turn, adjust the ride. I can also tailer it for when I have a trailer or toad not eh rear as well. Ours is about the same length and a similar slide setup which makes her a heavy girl. It's a shame but these from the factory just are not really setup great, at least the newer ones, for the constant heavier loads which is why I am upgrading mine. Enjoy all your projects and I need to ask you about solar at some point as I need some advice from an RV'er that understands setting it up. Anyway, keep it up and thanks agains for sharing.
Good video! The only thing I would have done differently is to put the in-line nearer to where your power distribution panel is located thus facilitating changing or resetting (instead of having to crawl under the vehicle) if it blows which will only happen on a dark cold/muddy night in the middle of no where. Also, if the is is a fuse versus a circuit breaker, make sure you carry spares for the same reason.
I almost didn't put the fuse in since it's already fused at the DC panel. The reason I did was because that circuit is going to be shared with other 12V stuff powered under the coach.
@@RVwithTito yes, this is kind of what I figured. Also, as I recall, you said you wired this unit into 30 amp circuit while the fuse provided with it was only 15 amp so I think it was wise to protect the compressor with separate (and lower) fuse/breaker to protect at the level specified by the manufacturer.
I purchased a 1981 class C Chevy motor home, 20ft. Not knowing anything about RVs, I learned that this one had these air bags. One pumps up but the other one has leaks. I haven't determined where the leaks are yet. But I'm thinking they are pretty old and need replacing. How would I go about finding a compatible set of air lifts? Or do you think I should find the leaks first? It may only be an air line leading to the air lift.
Sure it could. You'll typically see them installed on your truck and maybe add less expensive Sumo springs on the trailer axle. I think Jared over at the All About RVs channel did a video on that.
Brian, any update on this in real world use? Would love to hear about it. I've been wanting to do this on my Sprinter chassis class A (Winnebago Via) but last I checked, AirLift didn't have a kit for our Sprinter 3500 chassis.
They've been great for the class C, but will only give an inch or two of extra clearance. You should check out WeldTec in San Diego (www.youtube.com/@WeldtecDesigns). I think the guys name is Jeremy. They have a nice spring and shocks kit that addresses your issue specifically. Good luck!
As a thought..I've heard of people using air bags for adjustment well driving roads that are Crownd high in center...like if driving some roads in the Adirondacks in Upper New York.. Just a thought..but of course one would want to us there own judgment ..if I'd be for them.. One could have the co pilot do on road adjustments as driver / drives ..lol ( Not fore everybody ..) Some controls clip into a on dash mount ..to help w hands free ..along w ..alway know where it is when needed plus ..operator can glance @ control screen when @ a safe location..( red light ) .. Safe Camping . I did something like this to my 2010 F-250..for pulling a 45' fifth wheel camper..
Hey Brian just bought a new to us 2003 35-year adventurer noticed I have a sag in the rear on the left side to the right side of about an inch springs are a little pricey at this point these airbags look like they might be the ticket your thoughts on just using them to level out?
Got air bags on my Winne lovem. But did you check the load rating on your rear Tires. Mine was shipped in 05 with tires not rated for the weight of the GVW at max load ? Most C`s are sent out that way.
By coincidence, I just ordered the exact same setup last night. As usual your video did a great job of laying it all out. Question though: Can you explain how you installed the auxiliary shrader valves? I'm debating where I want to add those. From your video, it was a bit hard to tell what you did on those.
Just cut the air line on each side and insert the T connector. What I did to mount them inside the storage bin is to drill a hole in the side and insert the shrader valve through the back then tighten the thin nuts down. Really simple. Good luck.
Brian , another fantastic install video. I have had my Air Lift , load lifter system for several years and love the system , i too love the onboard compressor. I remember my DIY install and my memory is it was challenging but you make it look simple, very organized and intelligent install. Air Lift is a great company. Great work as always . I Enjoy your channel. I last messaged you about a Solar install , And I still have not had the guts to install roof mount solar panels because penetrating the rubber roof scares me.
Great video and thank you for doing this. I have a Class C and love watching your DIY improvements. I am no where as handy as you - but you made this install (minus the compressor - lol) look pretty easy.
Loved your video on the crv! Make sure you do the transmission and differential oil change. And do a fuel injector flush! With petrol treatment. As for your camper. Make sure when travelling keep all the weight in your camper at the FRONT of your caravan to prevent fish tailing when driving on the road DO NOT CENTRE THE WEIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CAMPER. SEARCH ON YOU TUBE HOW TO prevent fish tailing trailers while driving.
Awesome that you did this! With having an onboard compressor do you have the functionality to air up your rig’s tires or other inflatables? If not you should make it happen!
Probably not with this setup given that the compressor is controlled by the manifold. However, that DC circuit I wired up also powers my Viair compressor that sits in that storage bin. I now use that to air up my tires without having to take it out and alligator clip it to my chassis battery with engine running.
I definitely like your install and do understand the benefits, but I guess my only question would be...can you truly get the full benefit of the airbag without putting both rear wheels on individual scales? Only asking because I am about to buy very soon Sumo helper springs on my E450 cutaway chassis, which will be alot easier and cheaper install. Just wanted your opinion I guess, that without access to individual scales would I be just as well suited going with the helper springs vs airbags? Thanks
Agreed. It's nice to know. I've noticed the difference just from the wheel well clearance or measuring from the axle to the frame on each side. I don't have an opinion about the Sumo Springs. Lots of folks like them.
Hey just FYI... check out WeldTech Designs, El Cajon, Calif... they have a TH-cam channel and recommends against airbags and explains why and what should be done from the factory but isn't... great advice and food for thought 💭
Oh. I'm well aware of Jeremy's channel. Cool stuff. I may go for that Baja grocery lift at some point. For now I like the adjustability of this setup. It's Working good.
My 2019 Class C came with the Firestone air bags .I wonder if that air compresser would work on them. I fine it a real pain to fill with air because of the position the air values.
There are settings in the compressor for "airbag type", but they only control the max PSI of 25 or 100. So it should work as long as the air hose and fitting match.
@@RVwithTito It'll work. The air hose side between Firestone and Airlift is the same. I have mixed them myself before and plan to do it again. I already have the compressor when I removed the setup on our truck when we still had a trailer. Going to add it to the RV and run Firestone bags as I prefer their kit a little more over the Airlift one.
I used to edit for a living... nice video with good production quality, like graphics for wrench sizes. Also, good content and work ethics/style.
Thank you for sharing your project,
Much appreciated
Thanks for the feedback. It means a lot. I know lots of creators tend to outsource the editing after a while, but it's my favorite part of the process. Crawling around under the RV in the cold getting multiple angles...not as much fun but great for editing :)
As an editor, you can never have too much Broll footage.
You the MAN. On the ground, under the RV on Gravel. You are a good YOUNG MAN.
There was certainly a fair amount of grunting and groaning plus head and knee bumping with accompanying expletives :)
@@RVwithTito - All required when doing this sort of work, well done.
Airlift is the best, most complete dependable and trouble free air ride system out there i absolutely love mine!
Right on! Great to hear.
@@RVwithTito i opted for the old style compressor setup, which Airlift discontinued, but can still be found on Ebay for around $125.00, complete kit.
I’m a 56 year old female. I loved the video. I’m saving this video for the future when we get a large RV to live in. Now my husband and I are not able to do it ourselves but I’m sharing it with two other people so they can help out. Thank you so very much, it was very well recorded. You make a great instructor. 👍🇨🇦
Nice having folks to help you out, but do they know what they're in for yet? :) BTW: I'm a '64 baby too.
@@RVwithTito I just saw your video for the first time I watched a few of them and kept them safe. Either next year or the year after is when I’ll need the video to have someone help me out so now they don’t know about it yet. I thought you did very well and the people I know can put it up on the hoist. Thank you for responding take care love your work.👍🥰🇨🇦
Just and update to say that I was able to level the RV for an overnighter using just the air bags and remote (no wedges required). I was pretty happy with that.
Great video!!, I have been contemplating these. Question, and I'm sure this is a "your mileage may vary" type question, but how much "lift" can you get from FULLY deflated to 100%?
I too have a 32' class c, that really sits low in the back. I have a hump in my driveway as I exit/enter that bottoms out the center of my wheel span (Generator exhaust hangs lowest point) that I use heavy ramps to pull in/out of driveway. I would like to be able to inflate to max, pull in/out, then adjust for ride. Have you considered Fronts too?
@@davidlawlor1583 Don't expect a huge lift. When full (on flat surface) it might go up an inch or two. That might be all you need though.
You probably have the best RV DIY channel on TH-cam. Great work.
Wow, thanks!
Excellent videography in difficult tight location, you did a great job getting the right position to actually see what you were doing. Bravo Zulu.
Thanks for noticing those details :) It's very challenging at times but I'm glad to hear that it's appreciated.
About time you found a new project, we have missed you. I love my old bags.
Gotta pace myself :)
I’ve had them for 12 yrs best money I spent I love them
Great longevity. Thanks for sharing that!
Hi Brian,
Great video as your usual. I would hope that you do a follow up video about the reliability of the air bag system. My ‘90’s class A came with an air bag system. I think it was Firestone. The bags failed after about 7 years and maybe 15,000 miles. I suspect the rubber material failed from road exposure stress. Hopefully the current material is far superior. A future video would be very insightful about longevity.
Thanks....
Nice job
I have and old RV as well it is fun doing these projects on them for sure
my RV came with their bags but to be able to adjust them on the road is a good thing
if you had a tank you could have on board air for bicycles RV tires so on
Have a great day
I do have another Viair compressor that works for everything else.
Our Sunseeker 2290S class C came with the Firestone air bags standard. When we took it home the dealer had not inflated them and the ride was very rough and "tippy". Once I pumped them up the ride became a dream! I run them between 50 and 75 psi depending on the load.
After that bumpy ride home I can not imagine not having air bags.
Glad to hear. It's always nice to be able to say "my RV rides like a dream"
Brian, I have a 32' Winnebago outlook with the same air bags on it. With a full load of water and gas I keep the bags at approx 50lbs on it. Doesn't have the automatic air pump on it, just manual fill. Really takes the load off and has a very nice ride. You did a really nice job on the installation and I took advantage of the discount on the recliners from RecPro. Thanks, I'll be watching you. Earl
Good to know. I'll be experimenting to get the right setting on mine when we hit the road again soon. Glad you got those recliners. Hope they're working out great.
I have a winnebago outlook as well and I'm considering installing these.
I bought this kit and I’ve installed the air compressor that I have not installed the bags yet. I have installed the front air lift 1000 bags on the front. Installed new front and rear hellwig sway bars. Also Roadmaster steering stabilizers, Plus Bilstein front shocks.
Sounds like you're all set.
@@RVwithTito You know I follow your channel Because it’s a class C E450 as well. Your info and ideas have been a great help. Solar is next and i have all the parts except the panels and when i leave for Arizona i will pick those up next. I also have to get the batteries as well. Big Bucks looking at the battle borns.
@@1973mre Check out electrovoltusa.com and let me know what you think. I just heard from them the other day and hope to try their batteries.
@@RVwithTito Thanks I will look into them
I applaud you for the great camera shots. I can't imagine the frustration and added time of setting up the camera for every shot, and making sure you have correct lighting. Great Video Brian !!
I was thinking the same. How time-consuming it must be to get those shots.
Great job!
Those big rocks look hard on the back, I did this on a old class C and it helped raise a sagging rear, and it handled better
Love my air ride system in my 1978, 26 foot GMC RV.. remote /up/down/left right Travel and camp mode..
Nice!
Put some on my Ram to help with the fifth wheel, now I need the on board air compressor!! (no crawling around, used my 2 pole lift!!)
Nice to have a lift :) The compressor has been nice.
You had me at powered ratchet and multi-tool. Ha! Great job man! You make everything look easy ;-)
Those two tools came in very handy on this one for sure. I did kill one metal bit while cutting those bolts.
As usual, informative well done video, I would have put the fuse at the compressor end, easier to access if it blows.
Looks good, I enjoy your projects. I will be installing my air bags on my box truck next week, good reminders, thanks.
Great. Good luck with the install!
Brian you have skills sir. I bet you are going to love this upgrade. Thanks for the video.
Hey thanks! I learn something new with each project 👍
Your ambition for doing these mods is Great. I would like to think I could do an install like that but.......As someone that usually can only do a project with a minimum of 2-3 trips back to hardware store I will leave it to the pros. PS You are a PRO in my eyes for sure!
Nah. I don't see myself as a pro by any means, but my projects do involve a significant amount of research and planning ahead of time. Glad you're enjoying the mods. Thanks so much for the vote of confidence :)
Nicely done man. I've been thinking about doing this to my truck camper.
Been on the road now for a while...its been great. I can even use it for a slight leven adjustment at the campsite...bonus.
Hi Brian. I have an old transit with a dunlop air support. I needed to reallocate the handbrake adjuster because the baggs lift the springs and the adjuster 'thinks' the van is empty, wich isn't of course. Great pumpsystem. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing that. That's why projects usually take longer than you think :)
I enjoy your videos. I always learn something!
Awesome, thank you!
You made it look good job,,,i would fine me some old car tags and add me some mmore shielding at one place.if its gas it will get hot!!!
You done a good job I’m a retired IBEW Wireman You know howto think having good tools helps I have put th3 Firestone air bags on a couple trucks I had they have a new system now called liuqild springs that make your RV ride like a Class diesel pusher they are expencive most guys put them on Class A gas rigs
Just put air bags on our Class A. I may check those out.
Well done friend! Pretty sure I will tackle this project on my work truck. It rode so dang ruff.
Please let me know if this softened your ride.
My 2010 E450 absolutely is an excruciating experience driving around San Antonio, aka Pot Hole City.
I just installed monroe-matic RV shocks today and noticed that every single joint in the rear suspension is close to metal vs metal. The hard rubber suspension parts are so hard I'm convinced they are useless.
Of course yours is in better shape, so I am going to listen to your response.
Thanks again for this post
Great Job Brian, I noticed you used the Multi tool on the long bolts, great application, maybe you could trim the bolts on your diesel heater exhaust too before they bite you... You made that install look too easy. I'm working on installing a Center Point Air Suspension from Trail Air on my triple axle Keystone Raptor right now. Getting ready to run the Air lines on Monday. I'll use the cutting block for making sure I get square cuts too. Thanks again!
Glad you noticed the cutting block. I just grabbed some scrap wood and cut a couple of grooves. Worked great. Yeah...the multi-tool worked great on those bolts. Good luck with your project!
Check out the use of ping tanks. I installed the same bags on my Jayco 29MV but between the air inlet and the bag I installed 2, 2 gallon air tanks(1 tank per bag). It changes the “spring rate” of the bag thus creating a poor mans volumetric air bag.
As usual a great video. I appreciate time and work that you put into setting up all the shots to show in great detail what and how you are doing the job.
Glad it was helpful!
I love your videos. Very good camera positions and informative.
Glad you're enjoying them. Thanks for the feedback on the camera angles!
Having the ability to adjust the airbags from the cab is crucial. You can adapt the ride feel as needed and adjust for certain load outs. I once had to drive few hours with all of my tanks full and the airbags made the vehicle handle a lot better. Yes I said all my tanks, fresh(because I could fill it), and grey and black because we were in a driveway for a few days.
Agreed. I'm really looking forward to having that convenience of the remote :)
Thanks. I like this sort of improvement content. Funny my RV is parked on gravel road base too so I save my back with plywood or cardboard. I may add a kit to my E250 extended frame motovan. I added the air lift bags to the inside of front coil springs and they really improve the front end performance on the e250.
Glad it was helpful! Yeah. the crushed rock is no fun.
Tito, as always, informative, well organized, and you keep it simple. Will put bags on my dually flatbed because i'm putting on an Arctic Fox cabover and pulling a boat. Thanks for the DIY....
Wow! Impressive work, as usual!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Your videos do nothing but cost me money..🤓
I love that rear sway bar, a lot more beefier then the stock one.
Sorry about that. I'll keep trying this stuff so you can figure out whether or not to buy :) Yes that Hellwig sway bar and shocks upgrade has made a huge difference.
Great content as usual Brian. We have the Firestone brand on our 32' Sunseeker 3170DS but only manual air Schrader valves. The system you are using is a bit too pricey for me. I plan to buy two cheap 12v air compressors. Then mount them with a gauge, a switch, air valve on each side in a storage area. THen when needed just flip the switch to add air or open the valve to let some air out.
Should work with the gauge close by to keep from over inflating them. Good luck!
hey Tito at 10:10 look at your sway bar bracket the bolt should be tight pinched there is a gap ,, Great vid buddy
IDAT, great crawling, super flick
As usual your projects are the best!
Wow, thank you!
Always wear eye protection when under a vehicle, I understand it can be a bit distracting at first however, a chunk of rust landing just the right way amounts to zero fun.
I installed a set on my F-250 FX4 to reduce the sag. They seemed to help but I lost my comfy ride. I manually pump up mine until I can get the time to install the compressor. Thanks for sharing! Steve
Thanks for the heads up Steve. I havent noticed any issues yet but will still need to find the sweet spot.
Looking into airbags and you have done this too..not to surprised..great job and Thank you
I carry the rubber garden knee pads for such on ground work.. pb
Excellent install job as usual, Tito!! You do excellent quality work!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Hopefully the thor outlaw 29j air bags are good enough. But great video
Really good video. I have the Firestone system on a 2007 Coach House Platinum. I would change to the Airlift just for the Bluetooth control. Keep these great videos coming you do a great job.
I almost went with Firestone too, but eventually chose Air Lift for all of those reasons.
Nice kit. Probably needed it, like you said, with the overhang and water weight. Adjusting it for the load is a nice feature 👍🏼
Absolutely. I think it will be worthwhile. Can't wait to hit the road again.
The nice thing is how airbags not only smooth out the harshness of the bumps, but help with the side to side sway as well. Airtabs also help control the sway created when a semi or crosswind creates this. I swear by airtabs, as they make an incredible difference on high profile vehicles. There are cheaper clones of the airtabs out there, but airtabs still work the best.
I have Firestone Ride Rites on both my F350 truck I pull a toy hauler with and a class-C motor-home. I noticed on the class-c the leaf's were inverted from over weight from the factory, AND according to the E450 factory specs. On both I did simple air valves I check prior to leaving for a trip, but having a on-board compressor would be nice.
I was thinking about looking next into coil-over rear springs on the MH since I pull a trailer.
Good videos, especially adding the wrench size for people tired of making multiple trips to the roller cabinet from underneath.
BTW- on my Class-C it's a 2011 Winnebago Cambria more like a B+, I added 4" lift and 4 wheel drive conversion w/manual locking hubs, front leafs and straight axle from Ford. The rear air bags allow me to level the rig perfect depending on load.
Thanks
Thanks for the info. That's an awesome mod to your class c. What is the length?
@@RVwithTito It's 30' intended for driving over mountain passes in the winter to the Utah desert where we spend as many cold days as possible. Next up for us is 'lion' batteries and get rid of the lead acid.
Great video Brian! I put airlift 7500 bags on my 3500HD and it made a world of difference while towing our fifth wheel. Keep an eye on your heat shield, mine rusted out at the tabs after about a year or so. Also keep an eye on the electrical plug going into the compressor computer, I had one get water in the plug area and it fried the computer, the plug is not very water tight.
Hey James. I'm glad we had a few days last week that it wasn't raining :) I'll keep an eye on those things. I have some left over exhaust wrap that I thought of using instead of the heat shield. Who knows, I may do that. BTW I did see in the instructions that they recommend keeping a drip loop in wiring harness before the plug.
Mafe Wood ramps with 2x10's works great one for each wheel
Can this be used for corner to corner leveling ar the campsite?
Great install video! my only question is about how many inches can it raise the rear? getting to my house I have a steep hill and the back is scrapping a bit I'm wondering if this can solve my scrapping problem? any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!
Ive seen 2 or maybe 3 inches depending on the weight of your coach and how full you keep the bags.
Awesome job as always.
I like the fact that every time you do something to your rv... its not some flashy thing... but a well thought out adult useful thing, whether its sway bars or ride control.
In my experience ride height is something you ignore until screeeeech...
There is a deep gash in asphalt in Tampa, Fl and Salem, SC. Dont ask me how i know... these gas stations with their weird sloped entrances man...
The kick plate on my hitch has certainly seen some action 😁. Appreciate the awesome feedback. 👍
I would give this video a thumbs up if I hadn't seen a jack stand being used on gravel ... informative video non the less
Just a thought….I find that when crimping a butt connector (or other type), instead of using two hands to fit the wire into the connector, then having to pick up the crimper tool, which could allow the two ends to separate a little and give a poor connection……..I always first insert the butt connector into the crimp tool, then simply use that tool to mate the butt connector and the wire(s), then squeeze the crimper. Much faster, and you can more easily see that the crimp is solid. Just saying…… thanks!
clean pictures, precise infos, well put together, THANKS !
Thank you. I appreciate that feedback very much. 👍
Just in case you have a change in attacking this situation, there's a company in San Diego that specializes in 4wd and off road stuff that I used for a front end lift on my 2wd van. Lately, they've been doing a lot of upgrading of class C RV suspensions with new spring kits instead of air bags. Just a thought.
Yes. Jeremy over at Weldtech Designs in San Diego. I've seen all of those. Definitely something to consider in the future to make my Class C more Bad-Ass.
I ALWAYS learn something from your excellent videos THANKS
Great video. You make it look to simple. Always enjoy watching your excellent video production and interesting projects.
Let’s see. Suggestions. Do the mod when it is warm or run the engine briefly and the exhaust pipe will become a heater. Install a car lift at your home for the future modifications you will surely make. Buy a new RV that has auto leveling suspension. 🤪
Brim, hopefully I won’t ever have to do this, but as always, amazing work. I love your array of tools; you are well equipped & you impress me on each & every video. BTW, I am waiting for my Titofied hoodie I ordered happy to wear your legacy.
I have a general rule...each major project deserves a new tool 😀 Oh yeah. Im waiting for a hoodie too. Thanks for the support!
Tito I always give you a thumbs up buddy. Love your videos, also if you don’t mind given the link to where you bought them I didn’t really check but maybe you already did. But I’m doing the van build I have a Ford transit and I’m thinking I may stick their bags underneath the back of it.
Me and my wife we currently live in Jacksonville Florida. Bill and Anh. We are Owner Operators in a semi truck. And will be back in town in a couple weeks we’re here in Perry Florida picking up wise potato chips load.
That was an excellent DIY project, and thank you for putting the video out there for us. I have yet to purchase a rig, and about 8 months away yet. I am learning so much about things I can and may want to do after becoming an RV owner. Thank you again, and I really enjoy your videos!
Glad it was helpful!
All I have to say excellent video the sound the image the position of the camera all it’s perfect , question for you that bag is reading at 5000 pounds that’s mean 2500 for each side and you probably have more than 5000 pounds and that’s my case in my car you don’t think that can be a problem.
I will have to do that in my car it’s E 350 plumbing body with almost 10.000 pounds.and my rear it’s sagging and doesn’t look good at all, and also not drive very well
50-60 psi in my bags for a very similar weighted vehicle seems perfect for me
Great! Thanks for the info.
Need to do this to our class c . The back end drags in the driveway when we drive out. How much lift do you get for the air bags ?
Great job. How many inches could you lift the RV if you wanted to use the air bags to increase clearance?
It will depend on the overall weight. For me it's only about 1-2 inches.
WOW, Great upgrade and well done! I just wish it was in my price range.
Thanks! 👍
Thanks Brian! I also have a 32 foot class c. E450 V10. The air bags were installed before I owned it so I have no user manual. Do you adjust the air pressure every trip or just leave it at a set psi. hopefully the manufacturer will be stamped on the air bags so I can get a manual.
I just eyeball it measuring the gap between the top of the tire and wheel well. I also make minor adjustments to get level at camp. Just start with 50% then adjust as needed for the support and leveling you need.
Thanks Brian. Looking to do the same thing to my Class C. Actually, I am planing on new shocks, swaybars, trackbar, and Sumo Spings up front. Was going to do the Sumo Spings in the rear instead of the airbags but decided that This was the better way to go. It allows me to adjust the springs which, in turn, adjust the ride. I can also tailer it for when I have a trailer or toad not eh rear as well. Ours is about the same length and a similar slide setup which makes her a heavy girl. It's a shame but these from the factory just are not really setup great, at least the newer ones, for the constant heavier loads which is why I am upgrading mine.
Enjoy all your projects and I need to ask you about solar at some point as I need some advice from an RV'er that understands setting it up. Anyway, keep it up and thanks agains for sharing.
Good video! The only thing I would have done differently is to put the in-line nearer to where your power distribution panel is located thus facilitating changing or resetting (instead of having to crawl under the vehicle) if it blows which will only happen on a dark cold/muddy night in the middle of no where. Also, if the is is a fuse versus a circuit breaker, make sure you carry spares for the same reason.
I almost didn't put the fuse in since it's already fused at the DC panel. The reason I did was because that circuit is going to be shared with other 12V stuff powered under the coach.
@@RVwithTito yes, this is kind of what I figured. Also, as I recall, you said you wired this unit into 30 amp circuit while the fuse provided with it was only 15 amp so I think it was wise to protect the compressor with separate (and lower) fuse/breaker to protect at the level specified by the manufacturer.
by the way, what is the spare tire rack system? very good video toto.
The spare cage came from the factory with a spare.
There's also a bluetooth app for your phone you can also use and it will allow firmware updates for your compressor....
Yeah. I haven't loaded up the app yet, but I will. I spoke to a tech at Air Lift who said I should be good on firmware upgrades for now.
Thanks I have the same chassis. And same length on my C. What is the PSI you use in your airbags!? Thanks!
Im starting at 60psi and adjust from there.
I purchased a 1981 class C Chevy motor home, 20ft.
Not knowing anything about RVs, I learned that this one had these air bags. One pumps up but the other one has leaks. I haven't determined where the leaks are yet. But I'm thinking they are pretty old and need replacing.
How would I go about finding a compatible set of air lifts? Or do you think I should find the leaks first? It may only be an air line leading to the air lift.
Thanks god bless
Always welcome
enjoyed your video. I have a question. How high does air bag lift RV from zero psi to 100 psi ( 1",4",6" ??)
Good information.. Wonder if this could be a solution for a 5th wheel trailer/RV..?
Thinking the same thing
Sure it could. You'll typically see them installed on your truck and maybe add less expensive Sumo springs on the trailer axle. I think Jared over at the All About RVs channel did a video on that.
Interesting project. Are there bags available for the front as well?
Yes they do have front bags. They are a bit different though. I'm not sure if I'll need those, but time will tell.
Brian, any update on this in real world use? Would love to hear about it. I've been wanting to do this on my Sprinter chassis class A (Winnebago Via) but last I checked, AirLift didn't have a kit for our Sprinter 3500 chassis.
how are the bags to date? my issue is front end ride and bottoming out and road clearance? thinking spring over air shocks [ air ride?
They've been great for the class C, but will only give an inch or two of extra clearance. You should check out WeldTec in San Diego (www.youtube.com/@WeldtecDesigns). I think the guys name is Jeremy. They have a nice spring and shocks kit that addresses your issue specifically. Good luck!
Is it possible to put the manifold and compressor under the bed?
As a thought..I've heard of people using air bags for adjustment well driving roads that are Crownd high in center...like if driving some roads in the Adirondacks in Upper New York..
Just a thought..but of course one would want to us there own judgment ..if I'd be for them..
One could have the co pilot do on road adjustments as driver / drives ..lol
( Not fore everybody ..)
Some controls clip into a on dash mount ..to help w hands free ..along w ..alway know where it is when needed plus ..operator can glance @ control screen when @ a safe location..( red light ) ..
Safe Camping .
I did something like this to my 2010 F-250..for pulling a 45' fifth wheel camper..
WOW nice work,
thank you.
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey Brian just bought a new to us 2003 35-year adventurer noticed I have a sag in the rear on the left side to the right side of about an inch springs are a little pricey at this point these airbags look like they might be the ticket your thoughts on just using them to level out?
Got air bags on my Winne lovem. But did you check the load rating on your rear Tires. Mine was shipped in 05 with tires not rated for the weight of the GVW at max load ? Most C`s are sent out that way.
By coincidence, I just ordered the exact same setup last night. As usual your video did a great job of laying it all out. Question though: Can you explain how you installed the auxiliary shrader valves? I'm debating where I want to add those. From your video, it was a bit hard to tell what you did on those.
Just cut the air line on each side and insert the T connector. What I did to mount them inside the storage bin is to drill a hole in the side and insert the shrader valve through the back then tighten the thin nuts down. Really simple. Good luck.
Good Stuff, Great Tips👍🏿😀
Brian , another fantastic install video. I have had my Air Lift , load lifter system for several years and love the system , i too love the onboard compressor. I remember my DIY install and my memory is it was challenging but you make it look simple, very organized and intelligent install. Air Lift is a great company. Great work as always . I Enjoy your channel. I last messaged you about a Solar install , And I still have not had the guts to install roof mount solar panels because penetrating the rubber roof scares me.
Thanks! Good to hear your experience after several years. I have yet to really test them.
Great video and thank you for doing this. I have a Class C and love watching your DIY improvements. I am no where as handy as you - but you made this install (minus the compressor - lol) look pretty easy.
Thanks for watching!
Loved your video on the crv! Make sure you do the transmission and differential oil change. And do a fuel injector flush! With petrol treatment.
As for your camper. Make sure when travelling keep all the weight in your camper at the FRONT of your caravan to prevent fish tailing when driving on the road
DO NOT CENTRE THE WEIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CAMPER.
SEARCH ON YOU TUBE HOW TO prevent fish tailing trailers while driving.
Awesome that you did this! With having an onboard compressor do you have the functionality to air up your rig’s tires or other inflatables? If not you should make it happen!
Probably not with this setup given that the compressor is controlled by the manifold. However, that DC circuit I wired up also powers my Viair compressor that sits in that storage bin. I now use that to air up my tires without having to take it out and alligator clip it to my chassis battery with engine running.
RV with Tito DIY very cool, thanks for the reply.
I definitely like your install and do understand the benefits, but I guess my only question would be...can you truly get the full benefit of the airbag without putting both rear wheels on individual scales? Only asking because I am about to buy very soon Sumo helper springs on my E450 cutaway chassis, which will be alot easier and cheaper install. Just wanted your opinion I guess, that without access to individual scales would I be just as well suited going with the helper springs vs airbags? Thanks
Agreed. It's nice to know. I've noticed the difference just from the wheel well clearance or measuring from the axle to the frame on each side. I don't have an opinion about the Sumo Springs. Lots of folks like them.
Hey just FYI... check out WeldTech Designs, El Cajon, Calif... they have a TH-cam channel and recommends against airbags and explains why and what should be done from the factory but isn't... great advice and food for thought 💭
Oh. I'm well aware of Jeremy's channel. Cool stuff. I may go for that Baja grocery lift at some point. For now I like the adjustability of this setup. It's
Working good.
My 2019 Class C came with the Firestone air bags .I wonder if that air compresser would work on them. I fine it a real pain to fill with air because of the position the air values.
Thanks for the info 👍
It sure as long as the airlines are the same size. I think they are
There are settings in the compressor for "airbag type", but they only control the max PSI of 25 or 100. So it should work as long as the air hose and fitting match.
@@RVwithTito It'll work. The air hose side between Firestone and Airlift is the same. I have mixed them myself before and plan to do it again. I already have the compressor when I removed the setup on our truck when we still had a trailer. Going to add it to the RV and run Firestone bags as I prefer their kit a little more over the Airlift one.
@@jeffdurling100 Cool. Thanks for sharing that.
It has given me an idea for a trailer.🇳🇿👍
Great video thanks for the info.
Brian, can the air bags be inflated individually so they can help in getting the RV level?
Yes. Individually or together.