CONGRATS! You are the first to test HSD! Check out Paul Harrell Tribute Playlist Revolvers, Ballistics Tests, DA/SA, Buckshot Patterning are all there. Also, when I was younger before Lupus, Age, & Injuries got me I filmed thousands of videos on all aspects of Martial Arts, MMA, & Self Defense in my Playlists being an actual Subject Matter Expert w 4 Black Belts. I would REALLY Appreciate any support and Comments over the holidays! For anyone interested, you can now get CustomWolfGrips for your S&W, Taurus, Rossi, & Charter Snubs at CustomWolfGrips or PremiumGrips . Also, I have the Highest Rated Self Defense Instructional on BJJ Fanatics called Combatives & Street Jiujitsu! It is often on HUGE sales around the Holidays which will give you and your loved ones Practical knowledge to help stay safe. Thanks everyone, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. And remember, it's called EDC EVERYDAY CARRY follow your ABC's Always Be Carrying! The .32 or .38 Bug in your pocket holster when you need it beats the Instagram RDS WML Comped Super Blaster that you left at home -unless you're dedicated enough to carry that on the belt too, & in that case just leave your BUG in the weakside pocket like a Pro-
I was gonna release this Tuesday but it felt like a lazy Sunday for a lot of people, I felt it might get better traction earlier than normal on a Sunday.
@GunSam you may be right it's cool trigger bar did today too w 380 hsd plugging us. I filmed a Winter Coat carry vid for Xmas you will like and NY a look at what will come next year more talking into table top stuff
Thank you Wolfman and Sam for making this happen. Information like this really helps others out who don't have the gel to see if a certain caliber will work or not. Happy holidays to all, and keep training
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@DanTheWolfman Thanks. I will check out the videos. Paul Harrell was the only one doing realistic bullet hit performance on flesh material. RIP. His videos really validate even the smallest caliber for self-defense.
I have carried a Kel tec p32 as a backup for 15 years. Including my last 10 years as a Deputy before I retired. Most surprising thing to me is how accurate it is. I qualified every year on a regular duty pistol course of fire. Usually scoring in the low 90% area. It never failed.
Good to know, I don't have one emailed keltec twice as I don't own a 32 yet lol. Glad you Liked the vid and support Sam! For the Algo as well. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays. Look over Paul Harrell Tribute playlist & Modern Meat Target I came up with let me know what you think of that combining Paul & Sam's methods.
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I own two Kel-Tec P-32. Your test convinced me to switch to Hydro--Shock Deep rather than my usual FMJ. The standard advice when it comes to the 32 ACP was to use FMJ for max penetration because JHP will not expand from shorter than 4" barrels. But that is not the case here. Thanks and Merry Christmas !
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This is the best channel of its kind! I sense a Gundie Award in the near future. This gives me reassurance when I put a .380 in my pocket because I don't feel like lugging around a 1911 all day - if a 32 will do, I feel quite comfortable with a .380. These tests are really informative - thanks, Sam!
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@DanTheWolfman Merry Christmas 🎄 I will subscribe and I'll enjoy as they are the best. Paul happily tested some ammo for me and was a super guy and is sorely missed. Sam is constantly putting out great content that shows what works and what doesn't. The only thing I can't stand is he's a much better shot than I...oh well!
@@mattspriggs5945 Thank you let me know your thoughts the meat target and water jug tests I've done. Which ammo did you send...I offered to send him some but he said was backlogged and I think he was already ill diagnosed by then maybe...I am very skilled to 25 yards, but Sam has more at 40, 75, 100 yards than almost all others!
@DanTheWolfman I'll watch for sure! I sent Buffalo Bore 45 ACP+p and 10mm Auto Buffalo in a few flavors. Roy ended up testing it as Paul wasn't doing very well by then and hadn't been able to test it earlier - understandable. Some 45 Super and 10mm is headed to Sam if he's interested 😎 Happy holidays 🎅
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Hydro shok deep is probably the best round I have seen in any caliber in a long time. I watch tests on them and have never seen them not expand and do what they are supposed to do. All I carry these days in every caliber I own.
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Thanks Sam & Dan! I really appreciate this .32acp series. I have been using Fort Scott TUI to avoid rim lock. But I need to get a box of that Hydra-shok deep
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@paulmartin6895 I watched Paul DCS before he blew up. MY MODERN MEAT TARGET vids are in tribute to both Paul and Sam and Paul liked and commented on vid and via email my 8 box 124 gr tournament which country best 9mm ammo vid in my Paul Harrell Tribute Playlist
Thanks! I love your style, dude. Your casual style makes it fun. I don't like arrogant gun guys. My videos are nowhere near as good as yours, but I see your affable nature reminds me of myself. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and good health to you and yours!
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Wow, it's rare that you see a cartridge thats so drastically different that you would really like to see the engineering behind it. Great video! Some of the best comparitive ballistics content on TH-cam.
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Thank you!!! I've been hoping to see a test like this for months, and you nailed it! The methodology was awesome, and now I just hope that these Federal rounds will run through my old Walther! Thanks again!!!
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Thanks for this test! I’ve been looking for a test on the Hydra Shok deep in 32 acp and couldn’t find one! I carry a P32 or PPK a lot and it looks like a nice 32 acp round!
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@@DanTheWolfman I love my PPK! Walther just re-released the PP in 32 acp also. I haven’t seen any for sale yet, but I will definitely be getting one when they are out! Merry Christmas!
@@jmwnhlhk There was on gun...deals...gun...deals last night but bit too much. I think I'd like the PP in 32 acp more than 380. I will be doing 3 bigger 380s and others in my Search for Best James Bond Tuxedo Gun series!
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@@DanTheWolfman I really like Gun Sam's test method, but....Sam needs to put an exclaimer on each video stating that synthetic clear ballistics gel generally gives an extra 1-3" more in penetration and also gives less expansion than real 10% SIM Test Gel used by the FBI. It is for this reason I've always had far more confidence in Paul Harrel, TNOutdoors9 and AmmoQuest's ballistic's tests. I realize that many younger Guntuber's get hooked on the free sponsored supply and ease of using Clear Ballistics Gel, but if they want to be taken as seriously as the giants who came before them as mentioned above, they are going to have to put in the extra work of informing their audience of the limitations of Clear Ballistics Gel in that it does not mimic real flesh like SIM Test media and why it is not used by any agency in America. If Sam and others do this, then I think they will have a bright future. If not, they will never be respected like their predecessors who worked harder to show real results. Regards, John
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Specifically the +P Xtreme Defenders that go 1,000-1,100 FPS even from a pocket pistol. The .32 ACP Xtreme Cavitators are impressive as well, but discontinued by Underwood.
I'm going to call Lehigh projectiles tumblers. Unless someone can prove to me that they work some other way, other than tumbling. High speed camera footage for a 9mm Lehigh showed it rapidly tumbling when it hit gel. They certainly don't advertise it that way.
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That was an awesome test. I've past up getting a Beretta 32 so many times, but this Keltec might be cheaper and you found a good round for performance. Merry Xmas Dan and Gun Sam 🎉
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I just picked up my Beretta 30X a few months ago and between you a Toolsandtargets have seen maybe 7 videos about .32acp. I appreciate the current and prescient uploads!
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When the P32 was released, it was my first pocket gun. My crude test showed none of the JHP's would penetrate deep enough if they expanded at all. I opted to use Fiocchi's 73gr FMJ as they were reliable and readily available, and I wasn't paying for a premium bullet to not perform. Current pocket carry is P3AT loaded with Underwood 68gr Extreme defender non +p.
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P32 goes with me in warm weather. Normally I was feeding FMJ due to the rim lock possibility coupled with the dismal performance of most JHP's I have seen to date. I may just go find some of this HS Deep for summer use. Thanks for another cool test!
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As a general rule of thumb, .32 ACP FMJs especially the common 73 grain/71 grain variety, typically penetrate deeper to about 16"-20", with a much less wide wound tract.
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@@DanTheWolfman Yes! Thank you Daddy Dan! I don't care what they say about you around here, you're alright. Definitely performed better than any other .32 ACP, but for the same size gun I'll keep carrying a KelTec P3AT/LCP with .380 Punch/.380 Hydra Shok deep/Black Hills Honeybadger .380s :)
@wizkaqueefa9003 your welcome son...consider me like Lil Wayne's Uncle Bob! I'm just getting into cool da/sa Little Big .380s w long barrels all have functioned w ppu jhp fine so far and will carry w Punch if those run too in Search for Best James Bond Tuxedo guns (not a ppk) if ur interested
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It’s great how often your videos provide useful info about rounds that other gun tubers don’t seem to cover much. The one you did a while ago about how .380 performs against winter clothing was reassuring to me because sometimes I need to carry a mouse gun during winter. I don’t anticipate ever needing to carry a .32, but this video tells me that I wouldn’t be dangerously under gunned if I did.
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@@DanTheWolfman Thanks. I had enjoyed Paul's videos for a number of years and more recently been watching all of Sam's videos as well. Both good men and I miss Paul and all that he added to the gun community. Thanks again and take care and Merry Christmas to you.
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My buddy's dad carried a little.32 for years. Hes from a rough part of town, and probably 70yrs old now. He was getting in bar fights well into his 50s. I always thought it was strange that someone that has seen his share of violence (gun and otherwise), felt comfortable with a .32 acp. My grandparent's generation was also comfortable with the smaller calibers, and they were from an era and area where you didn't call the police. You handled things yourself. I EDC a .380, but am still most comfortable with a 9mm or better.
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Kel Tec used to make anti-rimlock kits for the P-32. I had one rimlock at the range with Corbon, and it isn't something that is clearable during a fight. I bought the kits after that and have never had the problem since. The spacer is easily removed for shooting full length (FMJ) ammo. Eliminating that issue with the Hydrashok Deep is a significant benefit.
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Great test Sam. I have a 32acp barrel for my Beretta 84bb and its so easy to shoot well, its crazy. I wouldn't feel out-gunned with the HydraShok Deep at all. To be honest when you can dump a magazine of these in a basketball sized group like with 32/22lr, even with FMJ I wouldn't worry.
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Recently bought a smith and wesson bodyguard 2.0, carries 12+1 .380 acp. I'm blown away by it. By far the best semi auto carry pistol I own, super small and not snappy at all. I recommend buying one if you find it for under 400$
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Years ago rangehot tested a plethora of 32 in 2 3/4 and 3 3/4 barrels. The Fiocchi “made in Italy” sjhp was impressive both in expansion and penetration
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Interesting how this happens- I just tested/filmed the HSD last week, will post sometime next month. I got different results- Longer barrel, higher velocity, more expansion, less penetration- until the denim test lol.
We will be waiting to see that. Will be interesting. I get it though lol. I have stuff filmed from months ago in preparation to not die from frostbite while continuing to put out content. The majority of viewers assume you film something that day and it's a magic full production from camera to TH-cam.
BTW I have noticed that every so often, you can get a combination of 'negative' things from a short barrel, that actually make the overall performance better. I have seen stuff like that between my M&P EZ .380 3.68" VS LCP .380 2.75". Splat expansion from too much barrel length and under-pentration, go shorter barrel and it's more gradual expansion, good penetration.
@@GunSam 100% agree- There is a thin line with .32acp & .380acp between barrel lengths and bullet types performing ideally. Too fast and expansion is too large providing only 6-8" of penetration. Too slow and you get zero expansion and just poke little holes...
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I have a p3at and would love a p32. Pocket carry is the only way to go for me. Ive noticed you haven't done a federal syntech segmenting 9mm test yet. Im considering this ammo for home defense and if you are open to suggestions i thought id mention it. I enjoy your content and merry Christmas
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Fine test. You'll have even more fun when you get a longer-barrel .32! I've had 60 gr JHP's and 73 gr fmj both exceed an average of 1100 fps from my Beretta Cheetah with a 4.4 in Allegheny Arms barrel and a VZ61. The VZ61 does not feed JHP's. I don't carry them in the Beretta, either, only ball.
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Great to see someone take the .32 ACP seriously. Surprising anything works acceptably in that tiny pistol. Especially since we get .22 LR vs .25 ACP in these little pistols _ad nauseum_ .
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@DanTheWolfman Been watching Paul for years, not so much lately. Just dosent have the energy as it once did. But hey, im glad his brother is still trying to carry on..
Love this video, especially the head target. How is the P32 for reliability been for you, as I hear mixed opinions? Suggestion, the best 9mm carry ammo if you can't use hollow points either because of different country's laws or because most militaries don't allow their use.
I have ran a 50 round box of American Eagle, 50 round box of Aguila both FMJ, 25 round box of Critical Defense and the rounds I ran in this test. So not a lot of ammo, 100 rounds of FMJ and 55 rounds of JHP. Zero malfunctions thus far.
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Interesting. That Hydra-Shok Deep os worth buying. Like your mouse gun.👍My 32s are old, a 1934 Mauser and a 1907 Savage with a 7 lb. trigger. I have an itch for a P32.
Ohhh tell me your thoughts on them....the Savage over the years was COMMON USE Hicaacity back in the day should be use in court cases....marketed to women as "10 Fast!". I love the bluing old Mausers still have like that, but looking for an hsc. Glad you Liked the vid and support Sam! For the Algo as well. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays. Look over Paul Harrell tribute playlist & Modern Meat Target I came up with let me know what you think of it combining Paul & Sam's methods & I get amazing correlation to Official 4 layer Organic Gel data I have!
@@DanTheWolfman I love those old ads with the lady of the house using her Savage against a burglar! That little 1907 Savage was good for its time. Yep, we all miss Paul Harrell.
A fantastically unintentional example at 3:50 of why a lot of folks don't rely on rimfire .22 for self defense and would much rather prefer a centerfire caliber (in autoloaders), or at least a revolver for the rimfire carts. Sam's even said it many times before. By the by, and I don't have actual books to consult to back it up, but on mention of rim lock I very vaguely remember suggestions for hand loaders spec'ing a very specific length, rim to snout, for .32acp to mitigate that problem when newer snazzy projectiles started becoming more common. I have some very old ball ammo somewhere in this mess that I should take a caliper to.
Not really. This was the cheapest Aquila garbage ammo I have, that's why I use it for chronograph setup reads. When I run clean good ammo like Federal Punch, CCI ammo etc, I almost never get issues like that.
@GunSam might have to respectfully disagree. Every single .22lr autoloader I've owned has had hiccups at some point just some a lot more than others. I wouldn't trust it for carry when there's other options.
@@DanTheWolfman thanks. If one of the two of you want the factory ball, if I can find it, y'all can have it, the Tomcat it was for walked away many years ago and I don't keep anything but .327 for my lcr just to stay used to the punch.
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Timely vid for me since I just bought my girlfriend a little Beretta 32 and really don't have much info on ammo choices. I have a PPK in 32 but I just run ball in it.
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Not that I would actually carry a FMJ in .32, but I would like to see your penetration tests between a flat point FMJ like Winchester's and a round nose European load such as Sellior and Belloit. I may have misspelled those.
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Good test Sam. Human frontal skull is apparently 7-10mm thick, based on a random search. Bone isn't like a piece of hard plastic. It's got a harder shell followed by a progressively softer matrix beneath. People over estimate bones way too much. They aren't ceramic plates.
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PPU has upgraded projectiles in their 'black & gold' boxes, that have a bigger hollow point. You should try to test them to see if they are better. I've tested in water, and they expanded decent.
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Hydrashok Deep is THE DESIGN for low energy CCW .38 Snubs, .380, & .32. .38 I have tested twice First Time OG Gun Sam Meat & Bone testing, 2nd- Modern Meat Target Double MDF it performs! Check Tigger-Bar philosopher today he did a Gun Sam style MDF .380 Hydrshok Deep vs Fiocchi Defense test today giving Sam and me shoutouts you should go check out too!
I wouldn't carry a .32 but that HydraShock really impressed me. As far as chronos go, that Caldwell works pretty well, it's what I use but maybe someone from Garmin will see your vids and donate one to the channel 😊.
The thing is, is that the Caldwell is 100% reliable. What is not reliable, is the ability for the shooter to always place the shots directly over the sensors which are like 2" wide. People mistakenly call a product faulty when it's in reality, the product not being used properly. Over the past 2-3 months I been taking my .22 pistol out to setup the chronograph. There's a lot of videos I have done with zero error reads, but the first 5-10 shots I did in setup with the .22 pistol had error after error. After figuring out stuff like, I have the angle off, I then get it right, run 5 rounds of .22 fine, move onto main video - everything reads fine.
The way the Caldwell is designed to function is totally fine by principle. That's not to say, it couldn't be improved. Things like, make the stupid sensors 4-5 inches wide, optimize sensors for more variable light conditions, etc.
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@@DanTheWolfman I really like 'the meat target' as opposed to shooting at blocks of soap which in my opinion don't really tell anything about a round other than maybe penetration in..... well.... soap.
@doranmaxwell1755 let me know what you think of Modern Meat Target thanks. Also..ORGANIC does simulate muscle and MANY MANY Real World OIS has confirmed similar avg penetration depths w Organic gel if major bones not hit fyi
I understand the Fiocchi 60 gr SJHP is hot. I use Buffalo Bore hard cast purporting 220 ft pounds but depending I'm sure on barrel length. In the 7.65 (.32 ACP) I like the older guns Beretta 90 7.65. COLT 1903, WALTHER PPK AND PP PLUS SAUER 38H an interesting handgun. I alternate the hard cast buffalo bore with the Fiocchi 60 gr SJHP ammo
I highly doubt that Fiocchi .32 ACP is hot. I mean, I haven't tested it and maybe it is, but my experience on here is 9 times out of ten when people tell me a 'confirmed' point of data, it's not right at all. We will see once I can find it in stock somewhere.
@@GunSam I just emailed you the treasure trove of all .32 data Fiocchi sjh and Fiocchi, Geco, & S&B fmj hottest and maybe the slowest or lowest cost to see if tumbles would be worth testing.
@DanTheWolfman The 90 I had years ago and traded it MISTAKE lamented over that for years but found a mint one in a shop and at half what they seem to go for these days and grabbed it up found 2 origional mags and got them both. The Sauer 38H is the grandpa I call it of the SIG P220 series all steel and has a lever that decocks and will make it go SA if on DA MODE. It is an earlier model with hammer safety and decock. Interesting and excellent design.
I know nothing about 32ACP. Seems shot placement is even more important compared to a 9mm for instance. While I see the use case of this Rd for deep concealment, getting another Rd into my arsenal that I have to hunt is a clear con to me. When the ammo shortage strikes again, those specialty rds are hardest to get, or? Still a very interesting presentation, thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas 🎁
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The 2nd to last one, his 9mm wouldn't work towards chopper but it seems he switch back to .32 that one which worked, the previous thumb print gun was a S&W made .380 ppks
I am surprised you are not also comparing the 32 ACP 55gr. Xtreme Defender from Underwood. It does good damage without needing to expand. I know you have tested that Underwood ammo with other calibers. But I could not find a video where you tested it with the 32ACP. This is the first time I seen any 32ACP hollow point expand. Looks like a good one to get.
I didn't select the ammo, but if I did, everyone knows that the Xtreme Defender has been out of stock everywhere for a long time. So don't be surprised.
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I like the 32 myself as with any caliber it's placement that counts. The new 30 super carry is 32 they just didn't won't that stigma in the name but yes 50000 psi chamber pressure is hot...
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@@DanTheWolfman first let me thank you. Don't know how I missed your channel. I've got a lot of catching up to do now. Sorry if this gets too long. I use a rack of pork ribs in front of the ballistic gel to simulate ribs. Interesting how rounds hitting ribs can make a difference. The FBI protocol is 12" minimum accounting for side shots. Well there is one TH-camr that has taken that into account as well. so first gel block is the arm with clothing on both sides followed by clothing again before the second gel block simulating the chest. Oh boy is the penetration greatly reduced. I did get some mdf board but have not had time to compair it to the ribs to see how close it is. The one area I think it will fail is that ribs are not flat like a board so it doesn't take into account deflection caused by a glancing shot. Anyway I will look thru your videos and comment as well. Thanks again. It is youtubers like you, Paul, GunSam... that can teach the FBI a thing or two about ballistics
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I Europe police found the .32 acp FMJ to be too lethal due to its penetration. They switched to 9mm to get good hollow points with less penetration, and guns with better iron sights.
There is no such thing as an industry established 32 Auto +P. I wouldn't shoot it in any of my guns without that gun manufacturer telling me I could. Which they won't, because they have no way of knowing what it's loaded to, because there is no spec for a +P. All they know with the +P description is it's probably over SAAMI established safe max
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I was disappointed when I tested it. 50 gr bullet (IIRC) that did 1050 fps from my 3.8 in Beretta barrel. (Underwood "+P" load) Just as advertised. But 73 S&b gives 1005 fps from the same barrel. The 50 gr Lehigh bullet should be going faster. It could be the light, long bullet just takes up too much space in the case and doesn't leave as much room for powder. 23:01
CONGRATS! You are the first to test HSD! Check out Paul Harrell Tribute Playlist Revolvers, Ballistics Tests, DA/SA, Buckshot Patterning are all there. Also, when I was younger before Lupus, Age, & Injuries got me I filmed thousands of videos on all aspects of Martial Arts, MMA, & Self Defense in my Playlists being an actual Subject Matter Expert w 4 Black Belts. I would REALLY Appreciate any support and Comments over the holidays! For anyone interested, you can now get CustomWolfGrips for your S&W, Taurus, Rossi, & Charter Snubs at CustomWolfGrips or PremiumGrips . Also, I have the Highest Rated Self Defense Instructional on BJJ Fanatics called Combatives & Street Jiujitsu! It is often on HUGE sales around the Holidays which will give you and your loved ones Practical knowledge to help stay safe. Thanks everyone, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. And remember, it's called EDC EVERYDAY CARRY follow your ABC's Always Be Carrying! The .32 or .38 Bug in your pocket holster when you need it beats the Instagram RDS WML Comped Super Blaster that you left at home -unless you're dedicated enough to carry that on the belt too, & in that case just leave your BUG in the weakside pocket like a Pro-
I was gonna release this Tuesday but it felt like a lazy Sunday for a lot of people, I felt it might get better traction earlier than normal on a Sunday.
@GunSam you may be right it's cool trigger bar did today too w 380 hsd plugging us. I filmed a Winter Coat carry vid for Xmas you will like and NY a look at what will come next year more talking into table top stuff
Great to see your name pop up in the title, Dan! I got excited that you might be appearing on the GunSam range! 😂😂😂😂
Thank you Wolfman and Sam for making this happen. Information like this really helps others out who don't have the gel to see if a certain caliber will work or not. Happy holidays to all, and keep training
Thanks again Wolf man & Sam.!
You're the only YT channel focusing on the proper or best ammunition section. Thank you so very much.
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Thanks. I will check out the videos. Paul Harrell was the only one doing realistic bullet hit performance on flesh material. RIP. His videos really validate even the smallest caliber for self-defense.
Really appreciate the 32 content. Thanks for taking the time.
I have carried a Kel tec p32 as a backup for 15 years. Including my last 10 years as a Deputy before I retired. Most surprising thing to me is how accurate it is. I qualified every year on a regular duty pistol course of fire. Usually scoring in the low 90% area. It never failed.
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I'm loving this .32 acp content! Thanks for this :)
I love my little keltec in the summer.
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Great show on 32 auto. My grandma has had her 32 auto for years...now she is gonna switch ammo to Hydrashock deep
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I own two Kel-Tec P-32. Your test convinced me to switch to Hydro--Shock Deep rather than my usual FMJ. The standard advice when it comes to the 32 ACP was to use FMJ for max penetration because JHP will not expand from shorter than 4" barrels. But that is not the case here. Thanks and Merry Christmas !
I’ve been using the Underwood extreme defenders in my P32 but I’m going to give Hydrashock a look.
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S&B or Fiocchi is the way.
@@Hornet135I'd say Norma isn't terrible as well.
@ They’re pretty close too. PPU is usually a bit weaker than S&B, Fiocchi, and Norma.
Pleasant surprise having a post today! Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas to all!🎄🎆🎀🙏❤💯
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This is the best channel of its kind! I sense a Gundie Award in the near future. This gives me reassurance when I put a .380 in my pocket because I don't feel like lugging around a 1911 all day - if a 32 will do, I feel quite comfortable with a .380. These tests are really informative - thanks, Sam!
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@DanTheWolfman Merry Christmas 🎄
I will subscribe and I'll enjoy as they are the best. Paul happily tested some ammo for me and was a super guy and is sorely missed. Sam is constantly putting out great content that shows what works and what doesn't.
The only thing I can't stand is he's a much better shot than I...oh well!
@@mattspriggs5945 Thank you let me know your thoughts the meat target and water jug tests I've done. Which ammo did you send...I offered to send him some but he said was backlogged and I think he was already ill diagnosed by then maybe...I am very skilled to 25 yards, but Sam has more at 40, 75, 100 yards than almost all others!
@DanTheWolfman I'll watch for sure!
I sent Buffalo Bore 45 ACP+p and 10mm Auto Buffalo in a few flavors. Roy ended up testing it as Paul wasn't doing very well by then and hadn't been able to test it earlier - understandable.
Some 45 Super and 10mm is headed to Sam if he's interested 😎
Happy holidays 🎅
Thank you
Dude you're crushing with the good content lately. Nice work.
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Hydro shok deep is probably the best round I have seen in any caliber in a long time. I watch tests on them and have never seen them not expand and do what they are supposed to do. All I carry these days in every caliber I own.
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@@DanTheWolfman I have seen your vids and already subscribed. Good stuff.
@corybrown8422 awesome thanks 😊
Excellent job by the Federal Ammo engineers.
I'm impressed.
And since I own a P-32 I will grab a box or two of this great ammo.
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Thanks Sam & Dan! I really appreciate this .32acp series. I have been using Fort Scott TUI to avoid rim lock. But I need to get a box of that Hydra-shok deep
Welcome, what .32 you carry...I don't even have one yet lol
Considered that Ft Scott ammo as well. Some tests I've seen were impressive.
@@DanTheWolfman I carry a Beretta Tomcat back & forth to work, as well times when I cant hide my main carry gun. (A Glock 42)
This is a test I was hoping you would have. Yes you right about Fed. Tells me what I want to know. Thanks for the test
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@DanTheWolfman I watch Paul's test before Roy took over. I like his test also .
@paulmartin6895 I watched Paul DCS before he blew up. MY MODERN MEAT TARGET vids are in tribute to both Paul and Sam and Paul liked and commented on vid and via email my 8 box 124 gr tournament which country best 9mm ammo vid in my Paul Harrell Tribute Playlist
Thanks! I love your style, dude. Your casual style makes it fun. I don't like arrogant gun guys.
My videos are nowhere near as good as yours, but I see your affable nature reminds me of myself. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and good health to you and yours!
Thanks a lot! Merry Christmas
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Wow, it's rare that you see a cartridge thats so drastically different that you would really like to see the engineering behind it. Great video! Some of the best comparitive ballistics content on TH-cam.
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I picked up the Beretta 32 Tomcat earlier this year for carrying purposes and appreciate you doing the hard work for me 😎
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Interesting and fun video, thanks. Merry Christmas Sam, all the best...
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@@DanTheWolfman I like what you did but I have to say I miss the “Jug-R-Not that Sam had. Not necessarily scientific but fun nonetheless…
@mikereinhardt4807 thanks my first "meat & Bone " tests were exactly Sam's old protocol
Thank you!!! I've been hoping to see a test like this for months, and you nailed it! The methodology was awesome, and now I just hope that these Federal rounds will run through my old Walther! Thanks again!!!
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big thank you for this review! it really helps me in my confidence carry of my 3 carry 32's keltec p32, beretta tomcat and s&w 432. Well done
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Thanks
Excellent and very, very useful for me. Great job!
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Thanks for this test! I’ve been looking for a test on the Hydra Shok deep in 32 acp and couldn’t find one! I carry a P32 or PPK a lot and it looks like a nice 32 acp round!
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@@DanTheWolfman I love my PPK! Walther just re-released the PP in 32 acp also. I haven’t seen any for sale yet, but I will definitely be getting one when they are out! Merry Christmas!
@@jmwnhlhk There was on gun...deals...gun...deals last night but bit too much. I think I'd like the PP in 32 acp more than 380. I will be doing 3 bigger 380s and others in my Search for Best James Bond Tuxedo Gun series!
@ I will definitely check those videos out!
@Jmr6813 cheers thanks
Great test and thank you. Would love to see Fort Scott's new 32 ACP Solid Copper TUI tested as well. Regards, John
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@@DanTheWolfman I really like Gun Sam's test method, but....Sam needs to put an exclaimer on each video stating that synthetic clear ballistics gel generally gives an extra 1-3" more in penetration and also gives less expansion than real 10% SIM Test Gel used by the FBI. It is for this reason I've always had far more confidence in Paul Harrel, TNOutdoors9 and AmmoQuest's ballistic's tests. I realize that many younger Guntuber's get hooked on the free sponsored supply and ease of using Clear Ballistics Gel, but if they want to be taken as seriously as the giants who came before them as mentioned above, they are going to have to put in the extra work of informing their audience of the limitations of Clear Ballistics Gel in that it does not mimic real flesh like SIM Test media and why it is not used by any agency in America. If Sam and others do this, then I think they will have a bright future. If not, they will never be respected like their predecessors who worked harder to show real results. Regards, John
Very impressed with the Hydrashock deep. That’s a pretty good round. Happy holidays to everyone.
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Great test. I have that same gun. Appreciate the work.
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I’ve always been interested in that little 32 for a pocket carry. Glad you found one
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The Keltec .32 is a great mouse gun. Super reliable and better than .22 and harsh words!
Is 32 ACP lethal? Yes ✅
Yep.. I mean it used to be leathal for 100 years until the tacticool guys said it wasn't
327 Federal Magnum is just 32 ACP +P.
@ kind of yeah like 32ACP Magnum +P+ except it’s a fully rimmed casing for Revolvers.
@@327Federal lol I got your 32 magI the 30 carbine lol yeah I have the blackhawk
@@doranmaxwell1755There's a Blackhawk in 30 carbine? You ever seen the Magnum Research BFR Revolver in .30/30 or .350 legend?
Great Test Sam, I’m digging that Hydra Shock
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Glad to see this. My little modified pocket See-Camp 32 goes everywhere with me. "Thumper" eats Buffalo Bore 32 ACP +P 75g Hard Cast
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That’s the same thing mine eats.
Excellent informative and definitive video, Going to be searching for this ammo ! Merry Christmas!
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I want to see the Underwood Xtreme Defender in 32acp.
Specifically the +P Xtreme Defenders that go 1,000-1,100 FPS even from a pocket pistol. The .32 ACP Xtreme Cavitators are impressive as well, but discontinued by Underwood.
Good idea, especially since it doesn’t rely on expansion.
I'm going to call Lehigh projectiles tumblers. Unless someone can prove to me that they work some other way, other than tumbling. High speed camera footage for a 9mm Lehigh showed it rapidly tumbling when it hit gel. They certainly don't advertise it that way.
@ I’m inclined to agree. Tools and Targets feels the same way about those things as well.
@@exothermal.sprocket I've heard of Fort Scott TUI doing that, but not always. I've rarely heard of the Lehigh bullets doing that.
Bravo 👏 great video that we have all been waiting for.
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That was an awesome test. I've past up getting a Beretta 32 so many times, but this Keltec might be cheaper and you found a good round for performance.
Merry Xmas Dan and Gun Sam 🎉
Thank you
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I just picked up my Beretta 30X a few months ago and between you a Toolsandtargets have seen maybe 7 videos about .32acp. I appreciate the current and prescient uploads!
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When the P32 was released, it was my first pocket gun.
My crude test showed none of the JHP's would penetrate deep enough if they expanded at all.
I opted to use Fiocchi's 73gr FMJ as they were reliable and readily available, and I wasn't paying for a premium bullet to not perform.
Current pocket carry is P3AT loaded with Underwood 68gr Extreme defender non +p.
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Great video!
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Great video! Get a garmin... 4:16 LOL!
I love mouse guns. Nobody expects the mouse guns.
For two legged defense people forget that the threats are not as tough as they'd hope.
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Props for working out the little KelTec P32!
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P32 goes with me in warm weather. Normally I was feeding FMJ due to the rim lock possibility coupled with the dismal performance of most JHP's I have seen to date. I may just go find some of this HS Deep for summer use. Thanks for another cool test!
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Awesome test! I'm gonna get some of those deeps!
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Dude, thank you for covering 32 acp and especially the new Federal Hydrashok Deep. Been very curious how this would compare.
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Ammo selection is everything with small caliber. I'm curious about FMJ next to those JHP rounds. Interesting test 👍
As a general rule of thumb, .32 ACP FMJs especially the common 73 grain/71 grain variety, typically penetrate deeper to about 16"-20", with a much less wide wound tract.
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@@wizkaqueefa9003 Wiz did I make your Xmas wish come true...
@@DanTheWolfman Yes! Thank you Daddy Dan! I don't care what they say about you around here, you're alright. Definitely performed better than any other .32 ACP, but for the same size gun I'll keep carrying a KelTec P3AT/LCP with .380 Punch/.380 Hydra Shok deep/Black Hills Honeybadger .380s :)
@wizkaqueefa9003 your welcome son...consider me like Lil Wayne's Uncle Bob! I'm just getting into cool da/sa Little Big .380s w long barrels all have functioned w ppu jhp fine so far and will carry w Punch if those run too in Search for Best James Bond Tuxedo guns (not a ppk) if ur interested
Happy Holidays. Love those P32's. Got a Seecamp also. Thanks for the vid.
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A lot of hype around many of the big names. "You have to aim for the right part of the target"- Mr. Paul Harrell, RIP.
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Thanks again for braving the elements for good practical science.
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It’s great how often your videos provide useful info about rounds that other gun tubers don’t seem to cover much. The one you did a while ago about how .380 performs against winter clothing was reassuring to me because sometimes I need to carry a mouse gun during winter. I don’t anticipate ever needing to carry a .32, but this video tells me that I wouldn’t be dangerously under gunned if I did.
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GS. Very good and interesting video. Thanks for sharing take care and Merry Christmas.
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@@DanTheWolfman Thanks. I had enjoyed Paul's videos for a number of years and more recently been watching all of Sam's videos as well. Both good men and I miss Paul and all that he added to the gun community. Thanks again and take care and Merry Christmas to you.
There is a very old saying about any small caliber handgun carried for self defense..."six to the face at a rapid pace".... good advice!
Cool test Sam, you've presented solid evidence of what works..
...an what don't. I'm a mouse gun fan, now thinking about 32's.
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A P32 is the only one i own, thanks to my job...
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My buddy's dad carried a little.32 for years. Hes from a rough part of town, and probably 70yrs old now.
He was getting in bar fights well into his 50s.
I always thought it was strange that someone that has seen his share of violence (gun and otherwise), felt comfortable with a .32 acp.
My grandparent's generation was also comfortable with the smaller calibers, and they were from an era and area where you didn't call the police. You handled things yourself.
I EDC a .380, but am still most comfortable with a 9mm or better.
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Kel Tec used to make anti-rimlock kits for the P-32.
I had one rimlock at the range with Corbon, and it isn't something that is clearable during a fight. I bought the kits after that and have never had the problem since. The spacer is easily removed for shooting full length (FMJ) ammo. Eliminating that issue with the Hydrashok Deep is a significant benefit.
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Good Video !
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Merry Christmas everyone
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Finally some does the 32 hydra shok deep!!!😊
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I've got a cz50 that I keep loaded with S&B 7.65mm FMJ. I'll have to look and try the Federal to see if will feed.
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Great test Sam. I have a 32acp barrel for my Beretta 84bb and its so easy to shoot well, its crazy. I wouldn't feel out-gunned with the HydraShok Deep at all. To be honest when you can dump a magazine of these in a basketball sized group like with 32/22lr, even with FMJ I wouldn't worry.
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Recently bought a smith and wesson bodyguard 2.0, carries 12+1 .380 acp. I'm blown away by it. By far the best semi auto carry pistol I own, super small and not snappy at all. I recommend buying one if you find it for under 400$
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Years ago rangehot tested a plethora of 32 in 2 3/4 and 3 3/4 barrels. The Fiocchi “made in Italy” sjhp was impressive both in expansion and penetration
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Good test Sam My dad has a Beretta 32 acp 3”.
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Interesting how this happens- I just tested/filmed the HSD last week, will post sometime next month. I got different results- Longer barrel, higher velocity, more expansion, less penetration- until the denim test lol.
We will be waiting to see that. Will be interesting. I get it though lol. I have stuff filmed from months ago in preparation to not die from frostbite while continuing to put out content. The majority of viewers assume you film something that day and it's a magic full production from camera to TH-cam.
@BuckeyeBallistics what barrel length and pistol? I'm wanting to get a 32
BTW I have noticed that every so often, you can get a combination of 'negative' things from a short barrel, that actually make the overall performance better. I have seen stuff like that between my M&P EZ .380 3.68" VS LCP .380 2.75". Splat expansion from too much barrel length and under-pentration, go shorter barrel and it's more gradual expansion, good penetration.
@@DanTheWolfman Just a junky Cobra with a 3.5" barrel I believe, was a loaner to test the ammo. I'll try to get the full specs in the video...
@@GunSam 100% agree- There is a thin line with .32acp & .380acp between barrel lengths and bullet types performing ideally. Too fast and expansion is too large providing only 6-8" of penetration. Too slow and you get zero expansion and just poke little holes...
I use Winchester fmjfp always feeds proper penetration . This is a good quick backup 👍🇺🇸
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I have a p3at and would love a p32. Pocket carry is the only way to go for me.
Ive noticed you haven't done a federal syntech segmenting 9mm test yet. Im considering this ammo for home defense and if you are open to suggestions i thought id mention it. I enjoy your content and merry Christmas
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Fine test. You'll have even more fun when you get a longer-barrel .32!
I've had 60 gr JHP's and 73 gr fmj both exceed an average of 1100 fps from my Beretta Cheetah with a 4.4 in Allegheny Arms barrel and a VZ61. The VZ61 does not feed JHP's. I don't carry them in the Beretta, either, only ball.
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Great to see someone take the .32 ACP seriously. Surprising anything works acceptably in that tiny pistol.
Especially since we get .22 LR vs .25 ACP in these little pistols _ad nauseum_ .
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Have you had issues with rim lock when using 32Acp hollow points?
Had a specific long response. TH-cam deleted it. Short answer is no
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I enjoyed the bad guy simulation. I can tell you liked that test too.
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@DanTheWolfman Been watching Paul for years, not so much lately. Just dosent have the energy as it once did. But hey, im glad his brother is still trying to carry on..
@brianhoxworth3881 his latest one is good it takes awhile to get groove YT isn't as easy as people think
Love this video, especially the head target. How is the P32 for reliability been for you, as I hear mixed opinions? Suggestion, the best 9mm carry ammo if you can't use hollow points either because of different country's laws or because most militaries don't allow their use.
I have ran a 50 round box of American Eagle, 50 round box of Aguila both FMJ, 25 round box of Critical Defense and the rounds I ran in this test. So not a lot of ammo, 100 rounds of FMJ and 55 rounds of JHP. Zero malfunctions thus far.
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Interesting. That Hydra-Shok Deep os worth buying. Like your mouse gun.👍My 32s are old, a 1934 Mauser and a 1907 Savage with a 7 lb. trigger. I have an itch for a P32.
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@@DanTheWolfman I love those old ads with the lady of the house using her Savage against a burglar! That little 1907 Savage was good for its time. Yep, we all miss Paul Harrell.
A fantastically unintentional example at 3:50 of why a lot of folks don't rely on rimfire .22 for self defense and would much rather prefer a centerfire caliber (in autoloaders), or at least a revolver for the rimfire carts. Sam's even said it many times before.
By the by, and I don't have actual books to consult to back it up, but on mention of rim lock I very vaguely remember suggestions for hand loaders spec'ing a very specific length, rim to snout, for .32acp to mitigate that problem when newer snazzy projectiles started becoming more common. I have some very old ball ammo somewhere in this mess that I should take a caliper to.
Not really. This was the cheapest Aquila garbage ammo I have, that's why I use it for chronograph setup reads. When I run clean good ammo like Federal Punch, CCI ammo etc, I almost never get issues like that.
@GunSam might have to respectfully disagree. Every single .22lr autoloader I've owned has had hiccups at some point just some a lot more than others. I wouldn't trust it for carry when there's other options.
@@Drmcclung That's fine. Doesn't change my experience that the Taurus TX22 is the most reliable rimfire pistol I have ever owned.
@@Drmcclung you want .95 or longer
@@DanTheWolfman thanks. If one of the two of you want the factory ball, if I can find it, y'all can have it, the Tomcat it was for walked away many years ago and I don't keep anything but .327 for my lcr just to stay used to the punch.
Love the 32 , 32hr mag and .327👍 thank you
.32acp is a .309
.32 H&R (and others) is a .312.
@exothermal.sprocket thanks for the 411
I have typically carried winchester white box FMJ in my p32, I might have to try out the hydrashok deeps if I can find some
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I don't worry about expansion...using Buffalo Bore HardCast....
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@@DanTheWolfman Two mags full....no issues.
Timely vid for me since I just bought my girlfriend a little Beretta 32 and really don't have much info on ammo choices. I have a PPK in 32 but I just run ball in it.
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Not that I would actually carry a FMJ in .32, but I would like to see your penetration tests between a flat point FMJ like Winchester's and a round nose European load such as Sellior and Belloit. I may have misspelled those.
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@@DanTheWolfman Yes the Winchester .32 ACP is flat like their .380. The .32 at least feeds well in a Colt 1903.
@bobrees4363 Interesting I'd love a 1908 for carry if was drop safe....kind of perfect ccw way back when other than that
Great vid
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Good test Sam.
Human frontal skull is apparently 7-10mm thick, based on a random search.
Bone isn't like a piece of hard plastic. It's got a harder shell followed by a progressively softer matrix beneath. People over estimate bones way too much. They aren't ceramic plates.
Great review. .32 ACP is lethal.
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PPU has upgraded projectiles in their 'black & gold' boxes, that have a bigger hollow point. You should try to test them to see if they are better. I've tested in water, and they expanded decent.
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I wish you would have included a fmj in the test as well. I would like to see what the best penetration case would be.
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Hydrashok Deep is THE DESIGN for low energy CCW .38 Snubs, .380, & .32. .38 I have tested twice First Time OG Gun Sam Meat & Bone testing, 2nd- Modern Meat Target Double MDF it performs! Check Tigger-Bar philosopher today he did a Gun Sam style MDF .380 Hydrshok Deep vs Fiocchi Defense test today giving Sam and me shoutouts you should go check out too!
I wouldn't carry a .32 but that HydraShock really impressed me. As far as chronos go, that Caldwell works pretty well, it's what I use but maybe someone from Garmin will see your vids and donate one to the channel 😊.
The thing is, is that the Caldwell is 100% reliable. What is not reliable, is the ability for the shooter to always place the shots directly over the sensors which are like 2" wide. People mistakenly call a product faulty when it's in reality, the product not being used properly. Over the past 2-3 months I been taking my .22 pistol out to setup the chronograph. There's a lot of videos I have done with zero error reads, but the first 5-10 shots I did in setup with the .22 pistol had error after error. After figuring out stuff like, I have the angle off, I then get it right, run 5 rounds of .22 fine, move onto main video - everything reads fine.
@GunSam I agree, mines never failed me yet. I don't use mine as much as you though. I have shot the little arms on two occasions though 😖.
The way the Caldwell is designed to function is totally fine by principle. That's not to say, it couldn't be improved. Things like, make the stupid sensors 4-5 inches wide, optimize sensors for more variable light conditions, etc.
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Both .25 auto and .32 auto are capable of really good accuracy.
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@@DanTheWolfman I really like 'the meat target' as opposed to shooting at blocks of soap which in my opinion don't really tell anything about a round other than maybe penetration in..... well.... soap.
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Below .32, may as well be using a .22 rimfire (LR or magnum).
I understand the Fiocchi 60 gr SJHP is hot. I use Buffalo Bore hard cast purporting 220 ft pounds but depending I'm sure on barrel length. In the 7.65 (.32 ACP) I like the older guns Beretta 90 7.65. COLT 1903, WALTHER PPK AND PP PLUS SAUER 38H an interesting handgun. I alternate the hard cast buffalo bore with the Fiocchi 60 gr SJHP ammo
YOU HAVE A 90 and a 38H....I want a 90 badly..how is it and the 38h....and there was one old site tested .32 in water jugs the fiocchi was good.
I highly doubt that Fiocchi .32 ACP is hot. I mean, I haven't tested it and maybe it is, but my experience on here is 9 times out of ten when people tell me a 'confirmed' point of data, it's not right at all. We will see once I can find it in stock somewhere.
@@GunSam I just emailed you the treasure trove of all .32 data Fiocchi sjh and Fiocchi, Geco, & S&B fmj hottest and maybe the slowest or lowest cost to see if tumbles would be worth testing.
@GunSam DID you use the 60 gr SJHP round? Has some exposed lead with decent cavity and half jacket
@DanTheWolfman The 90 I had years ago and traded it MISTAKE lamented over that for years but found a mint one in a shop and at half what they seem to go for these days and grabbed it up found 2 origional mags and got them both. The Sauer 38H is the grandpa I call it of the SIG P220 series all steel and has a lever that decocks and will make it go SA if on DA MODE. It is an earlier model with hammer safety and decock. Interesting and excellent design.
I know nothing about 32ACP. Seems shot placement is even more important compared to a 9mm for instance.
While I see the use case of this Rd for deep concealment, getting another Rd into my arsenal that I have to hunt is a clear con to me. When the ammo shortage strikes again, those specialty rds are hardest to get, or? Still a very interesting presentation, thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas 🎁
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James Bond said 32 ACP hits like a brick through a plate glass window. It has to be true if it's in a movie.
He's probably right. Real word facts, glass is very hard and bricks do not travel too far into a structure after hitting glass.
The 2nd to last one, his 9mm wouldn't work towards chopper but it seems he switch back to .32 that one which worked, the previous thumb print gun was a S&W made .380 ppks
@@DanTheWolfman Some cartridges hit like a brick through plate glass. Some blow heads clean off, while others blow out the lungs.
@GunSam indeed my Syntech Defense testing actually shows JB was finally correct on something...blows those lungs ...not sure about out the back though
I am surprised you are not also comparing the 32 ACP 55gr. Xtreme Defender from Underwood. It does good damage without needing to expand. I know you have tested that Underwood ammo with other calibers. But I could not find a video where you tested it with the 32ACP. This is the first time I seen any 32ACP hollow point expand. Looks like a good one to get.
I didn't select the ammo, but if I did, everyone knows that the Xtreme Defender has been out of stock everywhere for a long time. So don't be surprised.
Maybe this will help bring the .32 auto market back.
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Have you tested the Fioochi 73 grain FMJ?
Great exhibition of 32's capability in a mouse gun. Are you trading your EDC 327 Federal Magnum for a P32 or a Seecamp?
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I like the 32 myself as with any caliber it's placement that counts. The new 30 super carry is 32 they just didn't won't that stigma in the name but yes 50000 psi chamber pressure is hot...
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another great video. How about the 32 acp solid underwood defender?
I don't think it's possible to obtain
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@@GunSam midwayUSA is out of stock but taking backorders
@@DanTheWolfman first let me thank you. Don't know how I missed your channel. I've got a lot of catching up to do now. Sorry if this gets too long. I use a rack of pork ribs in front of the ballistic gel to simulate ribs. Interesting how rounds hitting ribs can make a difference. The FBI protocol is 12" minimum accounting for side shots. Well there is one TH-camr that has taken that into account as well. so first gel block is the arm with clothing on both sides followed by clothing again before the second gel block simulating the chest. Oh boy is the penetration greatly reduced. I did get some mdf board but have not had time to compair it to the ribs to see how close it is. The one area I think it will fail is that ribs are not flat like a board so it doesn't take into account deflection caused by a glancing shot. Anyway I will look thru your videos and comment as well. Thanks again. It is youtubers like you, Paul, GunSam... that can teach the FBI a thing or two about ballistics
As I recall, the original Seecamp could only feed the hydra-shoks and Glazers.
Larry Seecamp said he designed the pistol to be reliable with the Winchester Silvertip.
The .32 A.C.P. can have rim lock because of the larger rim.
That little KELTEC P32 shoots TIGHT GROUPS FAST WITH ARMALASER out to 15 yards. It’s NOT A MOUSE GUN.
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I Europe police found the .32 acp FMJ to be too lethal due to its penetration. They switched to 9mm to get good hollow points with less penetration, and guns with better iron sights.
Law enforcement wants it to be lethal.
Love your .32 ACP content, can you please consider doing Buffalo Bore .32 ACP +P next? That stuff is supposed to be hotter than the euro loads!!
There is no such thing as an industry established 32 Auto +P. I wouldn't shoot it in any of my guns without that gun manufacturer telling me I could. Which they won't, because they have no way of knowing what it's loaded to, because there is no spec for a +P. All they know with the +P description is it's probably over SAAMI established safe max
Federal wins the day!
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I hear the xtream cavator are good i 32acp
The Xtream was actually developed and tested with the Kel-Tec P32.
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I was disappointed when I tested it. 50 gr bullet (IIRC) that did 1050 fps from my 3.8 in Beretta barrel. (Underwood "+P" load) Just as advertised. But 73 S&b gives 1005 fps from the same barrel. The 50 gr Lehigh bullet should be going faster. It could be the light, long bullet just takes up too much space in the case and doesn't leave as much room for powder. 23:01