This is what ruined One Piece to me is Luffy becoming the chosen one JoyBoy Sun God Nika for plot armor and asspull purposes. Retconning his devil fruit was a big mistake and him not developing after Marineford War makes no sense! He could’ve been more serious about the situation and he becoming a real captain strategically cautious so no one in the crew will face the same fate as Ace.
Hey , they become plot conveniences if the situation is addressed upon because of retcons and minor details author lefts in situations prior to the moment of plot armor
His personality doesn't change but the development is there. Him and and his crew almost losing their life. Made him more determined to protect his crew and allies. He doesn't need to have a darkened personality just for it to be character development.
That’s a fair way of looking at it, I see what you mean. I didn’t mean for it to sound like he needed a darker personality, I was meaning he needed to “grow up” in a sense. But the way you put it makes sense
@@LockedInStudioz that's true but if you think about it Roger was childish as well but it didn't really make him immature more like he just had a dream that a kid would have despite being middle aged. But I get what you mean Luffy might just be a late bloomer in terms of mentality.
Tbh the starting quirky characterisation is important for his main theme of freedom ,more if you see the symbolism of ideal child of Nietzsche symbolism , now his low emotion is a really new type of criticism as he shows really good emptional intelligence in most times but ok , not saying he is 10/10 ( more like 7-8/10 at best), but he atleast isn't boring for me 😂😂 , his depth is mostly in subtle changes and dialogues of his inferiority of loneliness or his themes , for progression you can just take the situations between sanji and ussop as an example , but he isn't that complex , his parallels or peaks are kinda great too
Naruto grows? by what? calling obito a cool guy? or chasing sasuke 24/7? obsessed with him they are not even bestfriend, their friendship is not believable no depth at all. wannabe gon & killua that fails. Hell luffy & zoro nor sanji & zoro have more depth to them being bestbuddies than naruto & sasuke. I forgot to mention naruto & ichigo has the same plotarmor like luffy am just saying
Well me personally, i thought naruto grew in terms of, “hey im actually not the strongest and in order to bring peace throughout the world, and i need to learn how to get stronger so i can protect my friends better and become hokage” to me while Luffy does get stronger and has a similar mentality right after marineford, it kinda just goes away right after fish man island and he’s back to just getting lucky. That’s how i personally see it.
@@LockedInStudioz well both luffy & naruto are strong to begin with. 1st the prophecy of em being chosen ones. 2nd they have hacks the strongest tailed fox & hito hito no mi nika. 3rd both were reincarnations by important figures otsutsuki & joyboy. The reason why luffy is better IMO because he’s not self insert unlike naruto. luffy actually wants his crew to improve on their own capabilities hence why 3d2y. also he’s not forcing his flawed ideology unlike naruto.
Calling luffy boring is the dumbest thing ive ever heard lol This video is just so bad on so many things iDk if he watched the same show. SHs all have amazing development. What are you talking bout. Nami, Robin, Sanji, Zoro in Thriller bark all have amazing development. Luffy is the battle genius when it comes to fights. You can see this in his battles against Croc, Katakuri, Ennies lobby all together how he comes with Gears in first place lol Luffy literally have plethora of emotions than anybody else on the show. When hes sad its evident, When hes happy, angry , being dumb or selfish etc its all on his sleeve lol Plot armor naruto, bleach Dragon ball , Fairy tail have plot armor way more and worse than one piece lol. In one piece luffy actually takes L lol not like Naruto or DB or Bleach where they rage baits and transforms to win every fight. Naruto makes villans into his side by his bs talk no jutsu everytime. Thats also asspull lol Every single time Luffy is saved it is justified not some talk no jutsu or asspull. Against Buggy, Smoker Dragon saved him duh hes his FATHER. Luffy accepted his fate and smiled. Against Croc Robin cus shes double agent & curious for people with D due to her past. Megallen cus Bon clay is his friend. He always have shown great will like most shonen protags. And you said he wins by luck? lol He literally fights, took L’s, learns from that and then tries to win. Before & After enel he was steamrolled by the villans. Against Enel it was stroke of luck one in million chance to solidify irony dude who thinks is God got his one & only natural enemy. This video is joke & wrong on so many levels. It looks someone is hating for the sake of hating without fully grasping or having comprehension of the basic story or characters lol
If you guys have a different opinion tell me down below
This is what ruined One Piece to me is Luffy becoming the chosen one JoyBoy Sun God Nika for plot armor and asspull purposes.
Retconning his devil fruit was a big mistake and him not developing after Marineford War makes no sense! He could’ve been more serious about the situation and he becoming a real captain strategically cautious so no one in the crew will face the same fate as Ace.
i bet nearly all the examples of plot armour from bleach that people are gonna put into my replies i can debunk.
Hey , they become plot conveniences if the situation is addressed upon because of retcons and minor details author lefts in situations prior to the moment of plot armor
His personality doesn't change but the development is there. Him and and his crew almost losing their life. Made him more determined to protect his crew and allies. He doesn't need to have a darkened personality just for it to be character development.
That’s a fair way of looking at it, I see what you mean. I didn’t mean for it to sound like he needed a darker personality, I was meaning he needed to “grow up” in a sense. But the way you put it makes sense
@@LockedInStudioz that's true but if you think about it Roger was childish as well but it didn't really make him immature more like he just had a dream that a kid would have despite being middle aged. But I get what you mean Luffy might just be a late bloomer in terms of mentality.
Tbh the starting quirky characterisation is important for his main theme of freedom ,more if you see the symbolism of ideal child of Nietzsche symbolism , now his low emotion is a really new type of criticism as he shows really good emptional intelligence in most times but ok , not saying he is 10/10 ( more like 7-8/10 at best), but he atleast isn't boring for me 😂😂 , his depth is mostly in subtle changes and dialogues of his inferiority of loneliness or his themes , for progression you can just take the situations between sanji and ussop as an example , but he isn't that complex , his parallels or peaks are kinda great too
@@name-hy9ml that’s a fair assessment of him, to me that stuff is ok just not my favorite
@LockedInStudioz for me, he is the best in the series pretty easily,but everyone has their own preferences
@@name-hy9ml exactly, you’re not wrong and I’m not right, it’s just how we view the characters
Naruto grows? by what? calling obito a cool guy? or chasing sasuke 24/7? obsessed with him they are not even bestfriend, their friendship is not believable no depth at all. wannabe gon & killua that fails.
Hell luffy & zoro nor sanji & zoro have more depth to them being bestbuddies than naruto & sasuke.
I forgot to mention naruto & ichigo has the same plotarmor like luffy am just saying
Well me personally, i thought naruto grew in terms of, “hey im actually not the strongest and in order to bring peace throughout the world, and i need to learn how to get stronger so i can protect my friends better and become hokage” to me while Luffy does get stronger and has a similar mentality right after marineford, it kinda just goes away right after fish man island and he’s back to just getting lucky. That’s how i personally see it.
@@LockedInStudioz well both luffy & naruto are strong to begin with. 1st the prophecy of em being chosen ones. 2nd they have hacks the strongest tailed fox & hito hito no mi nika. 3rd both were reincarnations by important figures otsutsuki & joyboy.
The reason why luffy is better IMO because he’s not self insert unlike naruto.
luffy actually wants his crew to improve on their own capabilities hence why 3d2y.
also he’s not forcing his flawed ideology unlike naruto.
Calling luffy boring is the dumbest thing ive ever heard lol
This video is just so bad on so many things iDk if he watched the same show.
SHs all have amazing development. What are you talking bout. Nami, Robin, Sanji, Zoro in Thriller bark all have amazing development.
Luffy is the battle genius when it comes to fights. You can see this in his battles against Croc, Katakuri, Ennies lobby all together how he comes with Gears in first place lol
Luffy literally have plethora of emotions than anybody else on the show. When hes sad its evident, When hes happy, angry , being dumb or selfish etc its all on his sleeve lol
Plot armor naruto, bleach Dragon ball , Fairy tail have plot armor way more and worse than one piece lol. In one piece luffy actually takes L lol not like Naruto or DB or Bleach where they rage baits and transforms to win every fight.
Naruto makes villans into his side by his bs talk no jutsu everytime. Thats also asspull lol
Every single time Luffy is saved it is justified not some talk no jutsu or asspull. Against Buggy, Smoker Dragon saved him duh hes his FATHER. Luffy accepted his fate and smiled. Against Croc Robin cus shes double agent & curious for people with D due to her past. Megallen cus Bon clay is his friend. He always have shown great will like most shonen protags.
And you said he wins by luck? lol He literally fights, took L’s, learns from that and then tries to win. Before & After enel he was steamrolled by the villans. Against Enel it was stroke of luck one in million chance to solidify irony dude who thinks is God got his one & only natural enemy.
This video is joke & wrong on so many levels. It looks someone is hating for the sake of hating without fully grasping or having comprehension of the basic story or characters lol
Lets gooo! atlast somebody agrees with me.
Are you watching one piece in dub😢
@@VHMR143 Yes 😞, I know i know i should be banned, but i prefer dub over sub
That's why you don't like Luffy 🙌
@@VHMR143You think? Is it that much different?
Just watch 5 episodes in sub, then you'll know the difference 🙌
@@VHMR143 heard heard, I’ll come back when after I do, I’m assuming like the first 5 right?
Someone give me this guys address
No please I have a wife and kids
dub watchers hate luffy its nothing new lol
bro you haven t watched bleach and fairy tail if you have a problem with plot armor😂