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  • @bigclivedotcom
    @bigclivedotcom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My workshops tend to be floor-to-ceiling twin-slot shelving too. I also put the bench on the biggest twin-slot brackets and brace it to the ground at the front if needed with breakfast-bar supports. Mines a huge organised clutter too. But, like you, I can go straight to the thing I need in that clutter.

    • @sykskysyk
      @sykskysyk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Have you done a shop tour video yet? I've picked up some pretty good tips and habits watching shop tours of people I'm subscribed to.

    • @AxelDominatoR
      @AxelDominatoR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish I could install some of those as well, but I'm renting this flat and the landlord is not too keen on me changing the wall into a huge slab of swiss cheese... Everything is precariously balanced (which makes it more exciting, I guess)

    • @RambozoClown
      @RambozoClown 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hang sheets of plywood, then perforate them as needed.

    • @AxelDominatoR
      @AxelDominatoR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would still have to hang those sheet from somewhere and I cannot drill holes into the wall (nothing major, at least). Walls are also very thin/cheap so it would take quite a few big screws to secure everything properly. I'm hoping to be able to move into my own house as soon as possible, so I can have all of the space I need.

    • @AndrewGillard
      @AndrewGillard 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm lucky that although my tenancy agreement says I shouldn't make holes in the walls, my actual landlady is fine with me doing so as long as I can fix it up before we move out, which is piss-easy with plasterboard. I've filled plenty of plasterboard screw holes before (after having used those metal screw-in plasterboard wall plugs, which leave moderately-sized holes when removed), and even filled/repaired a 6"-diameter hole in a wall after my housemate fell down the stairs and elbowed her way through the wall! (She was fine, thankfully, but I then had a 2-week on-and-off job repairing the wall, as the only person in the house capable of doing such a thing!)
      As such I have a rack of open bins clipped to a plastic sheet on the wall, several racks of smallish plastic drawers, and a 7-foot-tall, 4-foot-wide bookcase full of random bits including stacks of compartmentalised plastic boxes (there are some lovely, decent-size, good-quality, 24-compartment boxes that Toby Electronics (UK) sell that I've bought 20 or so of, but they were selling them at clearance prices last time I checked, so they may no longer sell them...). My "workshop"/home-office is a piddly little box room (the little room that technically makes this a four-bedroom house, but no one would ever want to have this as a bedroom!), though, so things accumulate on the floor under the drawer units more often than not!

  • @xjet
    @xjet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    So the can of Raid is for debugging software?

  • @krishna34674
    @krishna34674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I think we ALL need to know what's in your box of "Funky op amps" !!!!!!

    • @electronash
      @electronash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      omsonic
      Maybe they only sound good when playing Nile Rodgers or Stevie Wonder? lol

  • @smunaut
    @smunaut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wrt to farnell labels that just fade off with time (and eventually go completely blank): If you heat them up with a lighter or a heat gun, you can make them legible The part that was exposed previously will not react a second time, but the part that wasn't will darken. And so you end up with a reverse-video label white-on-black. Obviously only works once, but it can be very useful :p

  • @KerryWongBlog
    @KerryWongBlog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not the prettiest but certainly one of the most practical setups I have seen. Thanks for sharing!

  • @boonedockjourneyman7979
    @boonedockjourneyman7979 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Extremely helpful.
    Think a minute about how TH-cam is giving a new generation access to people like you. I grew up in the Berkeley Homebrew Club. That depended on pure luck of getting a job at Lawrence Berkeley. How many people had that luck?
    Today, you impact kids on a diversion program from jail living in the middle of nowhere near an old retired teacher.
    Amazing.
    My students watched this twice and made fun of me the whole time.
    I appreciate the ESD reality check. I am so sick of ESD cops who have no idea how capacitance effects anything. They just love that EEVBlog blue. Sickening to see young people taught crap.
    Please teach some more of this simple stuff. I assure you, young people soak it up. The State Prison won’t let them post anything on the internet.
    What a damn shame.

  • @bvs1q
    @bvs1q 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    'a completely empty spot, il have to find something to put there'

  • @iwtommo
    @iwtommo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a gold mine of info for productivity
    Thanks a ton. The reverse computer case is brilliant

  • @MrDubje
    @MrDubje 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am I the only one wondering what Mike's house is like? Love the chaotic-but-organised look of everything. Also: I think Mike contradicts himself in this video, I'm sure in one video, he once said that fully populated boards are less susceptible to damage by ESD, which made sense at the time, but this new statement taking the charge and capacitance in relation to other surfaces into account is true as well... :)

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ESD in general is a low risk - populated boards have different risks to individual parts, and the fact that lots of parts are interconnected goes some way to improving protection, but with the exception of unusually delicate unprotected devices, it's pretty difficult to kill a loose part unless maybe it's on a metal surface

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was Dave at EEVBlog that said populated boards are less vulnerable. It's what I was taught as well, but Mike's logic also makes sense. I tend to just not give a crap about either or and accept that someday I *might* zap something.

    • @MrDubje
      @MrDubje 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Dick Fageroni, That would be my guess as well. :)

  • @noisytim
    @noisytim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was very nice! I’ll start ordering sticker boxes. Thanks for passing on your experience to us newcomers. It’s extremely appreciated !

  • @KaizerPowerElectronicsDk
    @KaizerPowerElectronicsDk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is always comforting to see that I am not alone at having a lab like that, storage like that, saving everything, we are all closing in on getting a diagnosed with hoarding syndrome :)
    Thanks for the walk-through, although a little too detailed and long.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd rather have what I don't need than need what I don't have.

  • @didaloca
    @didaloca 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the definition of organised chaos!

  • @nodariel
    @nodariel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow I was still at school 20 years ago and just discovered mikeselectricstuff website. It's been awesome following you over the years Mike!

  • @trickyrat483
    @trickyrat483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great vid., as usual, Mike. Thanks for posting.

  • @csmaster65
    @csmaster65 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the grand tour of the workshop of the most interesting electric stuff channel

  • @ollieb9875
    @ollieb9875 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fascinating. Thank you for making this video.

  • @MartenElectric
    @MartenElectric 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW, very nice Mike, Your video got me motivated to sort my own lab. I like particularly your back to front PC arrangement and priority use system. Thanks

  • @portlyoldman
    @portlyoldman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favourite TH-camrs that the algorithm has decided to find this older video to show me, left pathologically tidy me shocked and uncomfortable 😲
    However I realise why I get so little done as I spend so much time tidying and cleaning up my little multi purpose room!!!

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome lab. I am also a fan of this shelving system, and have entire continues wall just filled with shelves (2.5m high, 4m wide, with 7 U profiles attaches to a wall, with a lot of screws so it can support probably a ton of stuff together). Most of my shelves are 30cm deep, but few of them are 40cm and 60cm, i.e. for very deep test and measurement equipement. And at the lowest level 20cm, so there is a bit space for stuff on ground and legs. Plus boxes on ground. It all is stable and reconfigurable easily. Great stuff. I also use a lot of Orthex SmartStore Classic boxes (around 200 boxes total), as they are easy to stack and are transparent, and locking lids, so it is easy to move around, put on shelves or stack on floor. And a lot of LED strips on the bottom side of shelves, with individual RC controlled switches, so I can set it up the way I like.
    I agree that it is really hard to get anything deeper than 60cm for a desk top. I usually take two 60cm deep (standard) stuff, and extend it to 80cm by cutting second top into 3x20cm sections, and using the other 20cm sections as shelves above the desk (mostly for books).
    Troley on wheels in the corner is very smart move! I need to do that in my lab too.

  • @rpriesol
    @rpriesol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I look now around to the mess that I have in my office/workshop, based on Mike's standard everything is so clean and well organized :)

  • @MaxKoschuh
    @MaxKoschuh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:10 You have to be kidding me. A pick & place machine!
    Your shop is amazing! I wished mine could be nearly as professional. There are many great things to replicate, like the U-shaped desk layout.
    I hope you get well paid by your customers, VERY well paid.

  • @tHaH4x0r
    @tHaH4x0r 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A long awaited video, ordered chaos like an engineering workshop should be.

    • @fuzzy1dk
      @fuzzy1dk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can see that it is a place where things get done

  • @themexicannon
    @themexicannon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mike you're always the voice of experience. The Great Farnellius and his amazing disappearing label text scuppered me only last week :-(

  • @brainfornothing
    @brainfornothing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    -"Thing 1") I ussually use another thinner top, MDF or another cheap (free from trash) panel over my chipboard+melamine top tables, so I can replace quickly, easily and very cheap/for free
    -"Thing 2") I had years ago the idea of putting the back of the computer in front, but I didn't realize I can reverse the drives too ! Good idea !
    -"Thing 3") I use the same "idea-structure" of storage and I put long things in the top, just above the ceiling, but the light path is reduced, the upper sides of the room are darker and lower the light is not the solution, because they will be interfering
    -"Thing 4") I use also the Staedtler Permanent "F" for "normal things", but they are not the best for draw/repair PCB tracks before the acid, used to be, but not anymore, I think Staedtler changed the formulation, so, I contacted Staedtler a few years ago and they sent me one Staedtler special for optics and nano-something (I just google it : "Lumocolor permanent special 319") that works really well for PCB, but are a expensive
    -"Thing 5") Hey ! Are those Hi-tec boots like mine ? :D
    Thanks for the ideas and all your videos, Cheers !

  • @joshuaharlow4241
    @joshuaharlow4241 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for putting this video together. The timing for me could not be better. I -just- so happened to be in the midst moving my electronics lab between rooms. I am setting up in a rather small space. I have just set up an industrialish type shelf, (~4'x2') with the bottom shelf at desk height and another "shelf" 5 inches above that to become my work surface. The remaining shelves are above head height. Mounted an LED light to the bottom of the shelf above. Another idea I have is to mount some light weight bins and/or test leads to the inside of a closet door. I will have my test equipment on a nearby shelf unit that has casters, I hope this will allow me to roll the shelf out to cable equipment up as needed. Because my computer will be at a separate desk across the room, I will extend the video signal over to the bench and have a small monitor setup for viewing schematics, data sheets etc.

  • @mikehibbett3301
    @mikehibbett3301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing! I have just taken your advice on the small plastic storage boxes, I'm looking forward to improving on my IKEA storage solution!

  • @AureliusR
    @AureliusR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "SM CM Filters & Ferrets" LOL I love it

    • @philpem
      @philpem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ferrite ferrets, clears up noise and finds lost rabbits!

  • @Mentorcase
    @Mentorcase 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Organized chaos, I love it!

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People who call this chaos or disorganization have never done actual work I think :-)

  • @chrischeltenham
    @chrischeltenham 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed watching this :) I to have the issue where I want to use kitchen work top but 600mm isn't deep enough for what I want but then buying wider is silly priced. I loved the old projects you have set up so you can turn them on and show them off. Great vid :)

  • @Darieee
    @Darieee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing .. really enjoyed this one

  • @weirdscix
    @weirdscix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh that is my aim to have a workshop like that, I could spend all day playing with things

  • @thomasw6169
    @thomasw6169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the funky OpAmps 👍

  • @reps
    @reps 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    12:34: Any thoughts on PCB dust? I have CNCed a lot of PCBs for a while, but I got a bit scared because no regular vacuum filter seems to be able to contain the super fine glass fiber dust. Wouldn't want to breath something like that ...

    • @Arnthorg
      @Arnthorg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Signal Path even went as far as to make a pcb fixture that allowed him to submerge the pcb's to be milled in oil

    • @andr27
      @andr27 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh, marco here :) I like your channel

    • @sisco6943
      @sisco6943 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Marco, you could try something similar to what Chris has done in the video linked below. It seems to be common practice to sprinkle some water on the spindle/part when milling carbon fiber to keep the fine dust from being circulated in the air. You could try that with water or some other coolant. Although I don't know if the water/other coolants would negatively affect the pcb though.
      th-cam.com/video/VDjdMW4_eRc/w-d-xo.html

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't think drilling and milling with chip-breaker cutters produces particularly fine dust - a lot of what you are cutting is the resin, and I'd imagine the glass tends to stay bound to it rather than becoming loose fibres. Only issue I've had is occasional slight itchiness - never noticed anything obviously airborne.

    • @alexkindl861
      @alexkindl861 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's the airflow through the general workshop area? If a capacitor pops, or wire housing burns, how long does it stay funky? Any special provisions, or naturally well ventilated?

  • @jwrm22
    @jwrm22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for showing us around. The explanation about ESD is interesting. From the literature I've come to the conclusion the opposite was true, components are easier destroyed by ESD than mounted on a PCB. As for single prototypes, I've never run in to ESD problems. As for production it's standard practice to ESD bag all the things.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he could have simply stated that he lived in a bog, and left it there.

  • @philpem
    @philpem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video - and thanks for the ebay search terms for component storage boxes!
    The workboxes with the locking lids - if those are what I think they are (Raaco assorter boxes), then you can write on them. You want a Uni "Prockey" marker (Paperchase stock these), or a Uni or Edding solvent-based paint marker. But with that said - the P-Touch style labels do tend to last longer, especially if you use the Strong Adhesive tapes.
    Farnell labels - a major bugbear of mine. The old dot-matrix printed labels were great (if a little hard to read), but the thermal ones are utter junk. RS seem to use thermal-transfer. I usually copy the stock number onto the main bag with a marker pen... though I''ve toyed with the idea of using a Brother QL570 label printer or the Thinkjet clone (found for £1 in a camera shop, of all places) to reprint more hard-wearing labels.
    Paper/plastic component tapes - the 6mm P-touch labels are good for marking these up, but best to do a batch of them with the PC software to save label tape.
    I keep toying with the idea of making a paper-tape counter/labeller using a Thinkjet cartridge and a stepper motor. Obviously no good for the plastic tapes, but might be handy for resistors and capacitors (which invariably come on paper tape).
    Storage boxes - the Maplin SF05F boxes are probably 70% of my storage, with Raaco A45 and A46 Assorters taking up the rest. I've also got a few of the 4-litre "Really Useful" boxes (with a pair of "hobby tray" inserts) which are good for larger modules and sheets of antistatic foam loaded with ICs.
    The trading-card bags are better for components which ship on bandoleers - power diodes, thru-hole resistors and so on. But even those I only end up using for prototyping. Everything production is SMD - I still make my own PCBs, so reducing the number of holes which need drilling is a definite bonus!
    I guess we all find solutions as we need them, hence the sort-of "organic" layouts and assortments of different boxes. ${dayjob} only achieved consistency by throwing an absolute ton of components and boxes out, then buying all new. It works, but I wonder how long it'll last!

  • @berni8k
    @berni8k 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the "Clear peel box" trip.
    This is just what i need to organize my lab, but things can be hard to find on ebay without the magic search term

    • @paulrautenbach
      @paulrautenbach 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think these may be the ones Mike uses: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-PEEL-OFF-CLEAR-PLASTIC-CRAFT-BOX-STORAGE-BOXES-IN-SINGLE-5s-OR-10s-/112692541009?var=&hash=item1a3cffb651 bit there are others cheaper: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peel-Off-Box-Clear-Plastic-x10-Storage-Craft-Container/253357211775?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D12e50484f10241079d7a5d53b2aba23a%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D11%26sd%3D201471060588&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598

  • @jims408
    @jims408 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some great ideas; thanks much for sharing!

  • @davidgreaves9787
    @davidgreaves9787 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also have a box of old PCBs that really need to go as I had exactly the same idea 10 years ago and the only parts I re-used were from old power supplies like odd ball through hour parts etc..having heard your comments I have decided to throw most of these out in to a recycling skip when I sort the garage.

  • @ChipGuy
    @ChipGuy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the tour. Funny that my lab space is very similar in terms of workbench and testgear arrangement. I also use a kitchen surface with self made supports, but I went throught the 3 months wait to have the 90cm deep surface made to order which did end up costing 210 EUR. Also got the same shelving with the same, colorful boxes, even the same size. I have not plastered the walls with sockets like you have, which in my case was a mistake since I waste space at the back of the workbench with multiple outlet power strips.

    • @philpem
      @philpem 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using a kitchen worktop too, an off the shelf B&Q one.
      My latest improvement (today!) power-strip wise was to mount an IEC "kettle-lead" (C13/C14) outlet strip under the worktop. All the testgear hooks up through that, and then into one socket on the wall. Instruments get turned on/off via their front-panel on/off switches.
      The next task is to move the power strip for the soldering equipment onto the underside of the bench too - via an isolator switch and socket for safety reasons.

  • @daic7274
    @daic7274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fishing tackle boxes are handy, many various sizes, long ones for float storage, many smaller compartments for shot weights, variety sizes with and without dense foam inserts for fly/spinner storage etc. Many have decent clip closures.

  • @goatarse
    @goatarse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Mike. a 4k 30" monitor will change your life (layout, schematics and datasheets)

    • @RambozoClown
      @RambozoClown 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      4k 40" is the hot tip for me. Makes four nice sized 1080 windows or like you say blow up larger items across the whole thing.

    • @goatarse
      @goatarse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4k 40" defeats the purpose I believe, especially in a cramped workspace.

  • @tomboxyz5564
    @tomboxyz5564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I definitely recommend asking people who make custom kitchens if they have any "scrap" table tops, they often have ~2m pieces of discontinued table tops, they won't use it for a kitchen, since it's kinda short for that, but you might be able to buy it cut to the length you want for the shop, I built my PC desk out of that, it's 1.8m long (60cm deep) and it's a really nice Austrian table top, for which I paid half the price of a cheap table to, including cable passthroughs and putting trim on the ends

  • @stuartthegrant
    @stuartthegrant 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reverse case PC is a very good idea, wish I thought of that.

    • @aumike66
      @aumike66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel you, man. All those years of saying "fuck" from under the table, crumbled in most inconvenient ways ... it is funny to think how the floppy (and then cd/dvd) went and the front side of the computer was there only as an opposite to the back one.
      To our defense, a lay person will probably instinctively put the connector side facing the wall because of the cable management. And obviously, Mike is very accustomed to installations, where a computer is just yet another tool, and a proper cable management is in place with or without it.
      Those red and green plastic diffusers are nice though

  • @jameshauser1507
    @jameshauser1507 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your shop Mike.

  • @mumiemonstret
    @mumiemonstret 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Be careful when you open the ferret box! (37:06)

  • @NivagSwerdna
    @NivagSwerdna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video. Couldn't agree more with unlabelled parts are useless sentiment. I'm trying to arrange my stuff in bins each that has a stated generic purpose and when I have time going through a single bin and listing the contents in a spreadsheet. I decided that cataloguing the lot in one go was just never going to happen.

  • @murrayedington
    @murrayedington 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Note that "breakfast bar" worktop is 90cm deep. Widely available now at the usual outlets (B&Q etc) and used for those required island units.

  • @kght222
    @kght222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:38 you can fill that in with ca glue and produce an epoxy finish on that counter top and bring it back to "good as new" while having allot more character. keep in mind though that "good as new" in this case still means a big chunk of particle board with a plastic coating. honestly for electronics i can't think of a good surface that wouldn't ultimately be sacrificial, the surfaces that wouldn't be damaged by electrical work would damage the things you are trying to work on (granite, marble, in general stone surfaces) so i think i can only say you should probably look at woodworking workbenches. easy to damage but easy to fix. you can't use welding benches for electronics, they are conductive and even designed to be as conductive as possible. the best electronics benches i have seen are eevblog's. just some basic tables with a conductive mat on the surface that can be tied into wrist straps. i'd put discharge panels in so you don't need to hook up to discharge yourself, but that is about as good as it gets for an electronics bench at home.

  • @trollobite1629
    @trollobite1629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I built my worktops using decking boards, that way, you get to control the width furthermore, the small groves are great for stopping stuff rolling off the top or for catching small screws or whatever it is that you drop.

  • @SomeMorganSomewhere
    @SomeMorganSomewhere 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    On "A place for everything and everything in its place" agreed 100%, my version of that is "I like to have a place for everything and everything in its place, the problem is I don't have enough places for things so my workareas look like bomb sites"

  • @imajeenyus42
    @imajeenyus42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The "peel off storage boxes" you're using are likely made by Weston Boxes - www.westonboxes.com/collections/craft-storage-boxes/products/peel-off-storage-box. I use them a heck of a lot for storage boxes. My favorites for small things are their business card boxes, combined with either A4 or A5 boxes. You get 8 or 16 business card boxes on edge nicely in the larger boxes, makes it very convenient.

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt they're made by Weston Boxes -- at least not for less than a pound each! They're likely made in China or Taiwan somewhere...

  • @GeorgeChristofi
    @GeorgeChristofi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tend to use a lot more through hole resistors these days. The trouble is storage. If you use the grey rack system for individual values they are too big. I got some long boxes from Konrad with multiple long compartments for things like resistors and diodes. I haven't the same space but it is as crowded! Wilkos 24 compartment boxes are great too!.

  • @smling11
    @smling11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the baseball card sheet, I use by with anti-static small bag that fit nicely and that adds some fiction for retention.

  • @romyaz1713
    @romyaz1713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    funky opamps - a good name for a band

  • @kurtfrancis4621
    @kurtfrancis4621 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My kind of organization.

  • @robertfenney
    @robertfenney 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mike! That all make real good sense...

  • @zuccasnow
    @zuccasnow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That ESD discussion @30min was alone worth to watch the 30min before

  • @felixcat4346
    @felixcat4346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice workshop. I like to take stuff off of old circuit boards. I choose components that lookstrange and interesting, not just capacitors. Then I try to figure what they do and how they differ from things on Ebay. I keep my components in large coffee cans on the floor marked on top with a general catigory lable.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it is hard to get parts today like some of the good vintage stuff. It is all counterfeit now.

  • @arcadeuk
    @arcadeuk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The problem with kitchen worktop, is that the cheapest worktop 20 years ago, was 10 times better than the cheapest worktop is now, and also the cheapest worktop is not cheap anymore.

    • @turboslag
      @turboslag 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      arcadeuk depends where you buy it from;)

    • @aumike66
      @aumike66 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still, kitchen worktop is probably the only proper working surface in mass production, so ... an alternative to a kitchen sink might be a door. they are usually much wider (and longer) too. and people are somehow averted to having generic doors in their new apartments, so these are thrown away en masse.
      DIY might be another cheap alternative.

    • @turboslag
      @turboslag 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another option is two sheets of 19 or 20mm stirling board glued together for the thickness, and that way extra depth can be obtained. Then cover that with either laminate or rubber sheet.

    • @kevvywevvywoo
      @kevvywevvywoo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got mine by asking the store manager if there were any pieces with small chips in that he couldn't sell on the shop floor.

  • @BigA1
    @BigA1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Find myself wanting to questions like: What PCB layout SW do you use? Where do you get your PCBs Made? Do you use fume extraction equipment? Could go on, but I'll stop now. So thanks for sharing with us you insights into how you use your workshop.

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read lots of negative comments about your organization, but you seem very productive with it. It seems well suited to hardware development and your kind of research.
    Your comment about organizing for development versus production made a lot of sense to me, but I never thought of it that way before. I also started putting “on hold” projects in boxes to keep them easy to restart.
    I liked your yellow compartment boxes, and will look for similar because movable dividers don’t stay put well. I’m also looking for the long clear boxes, and will pick up some of those.
    I must have over a hundred cheap clear plastic boxes with white lids over the years for trying to organize my stuff from various hobbies, home repairs, etc. I only found out a year ago they are intended for shoe storage. Those and a label maker have made a huge difference to me.
    At 21:57 was that a ginormous (25+mm?) green LED on the right side of the “More LEDs” box?

  • @NI_TR_O
    @NI_TR_O 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike ive found if you want thick desks get solid wood fire doors, they normally have a nice finish and are can be cut up depending on the depth you want.

  • @DominicBush
    @DominicBush 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip regarding the plastic boxes.
    Just wondering about the lid retention problem, would screwing through side of the top and bottom work for non-frequently accessed stuff? Perhaps drill the hole and add a brass threaded insert but depending on the thickness of the plastic it might need a wooden block gluing on the inside for the insert to grip into.

  • @Zadster
    @Zadster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its always reassuring to see another engineer's workshop. Software development it is most definitely not! I still have loads of those grey drawers. Not many of mine have the handle left on either. Old-school 35mm photographic slide drawers might have been useful for keeping random semiconductor strips. Difficult to source now though. Which reminds me, you can get A4 sized 35mm film negative storage pages that might be useful for wider strips. Hama do pages for different sized medium format negatives and contact prints too.

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet2026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tend to have horizontal bars where I hang loops of solder, cable or tape etc. donut shaped things. Keeps them put so I don't displace them :)

  • @samuelchamberlain2584
    @samuelchamberlain2584 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something I have found useful is switched power strip the type with one master switch that means you can be confordent that all soldering irons etc are off .

  • @SomeMorganSomewhere
    @SomeMorganSomewhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The foam and foil thing for "anti-static" I think might have started with some of the electronics kit suppliers, I remember a lot of ICs in kits coming in foil-coated foam.

  • @jam99
    @jam99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some great ideas, thank you, Mike. How often do you use your pick 'n place machine?

  • @sparkyprojects
    @sparkyprojects 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For wider kitchen worktops, try 'island' worktops, just over 3 foot wide, personally i would cut off the round edge, then glue a wood strip on the front, if there's a possibility of spilled coffee, the edge strip can be stuck in place with a bit of silicone to seal it.
    If using a circular saw to cut it, cut with top down to avoid split out of the surface. :

    • @philpem
      @philpem 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only problem with the stick-on edging strip is that the glue tends to fail over time, to the point where catching it with a tool will peel the whole thing. I'd sooner put up with the rounded edge because the coating on the melamine worktop is a hell of a lot tougher.

    • @sparkyprojects
      @sparkyprojects 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not edging strip, but an actual piece of wood, it's a good idea as it becomes a wear strip too.

  • @magnehaneberg8605
    @magnehaneberg8605 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perhaps obvious to some, but specifically what do you use the frequency counter for in your work? Do you often need precise frequency and/or time interval measurements?

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not very often - only bought that one as it was going cheap and my previous one was rubbish.

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now that's a mad scientist's laboratory! They're not so much of a thing today but if you can get your hands on some old jewel CD cases you can pop the disc liner out of those cut off the disk part, and hot glue the edge back in. Then line the empty box with some foam and they hold parts really good. I wrote an article about how to do it here www.instructables.com/id/Jewel-Case-Parts-Storage-Box/

  • @cymonalex
    @cymonalex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mike, Does your EL clock still work? That Nixie you built for me is now 22 years old and works perfectly

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just about - a lot of variation in segment brightness now. Overdue for replacement.

  • @djpaulieshark
    @djpaulieshark 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. Very handy

  • @tomlomax9909
    @tomlomax9909 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good inspiration, thanks

  • @eliotmansfield
    @eliotmansfield 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Re worktop; Look at breakfast bar worktop - it’s 900mm deep. Also oak breakfast bar stuff is 900 without the rounded edge.

  • @404Anymouse
    @404Anymouse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Few thoughts on smt binder sheets:
    The ones you can get from china all seem to be just A5 for some reason. I always thought they (the A4 ones you can get in europe) are little too expensive, I also think there isn't anyone who would sell plain sheets without components.
    It's possible to make them yourself, what I have tried was just go along a line with soldering iron, the problem there is that you need to make sort of intermitent movement, otherwise you end up just cutting the sheet (if you look at the professional ones, the melted lines are dotted).
    Ideas for making them that I had but didn't try:
    -Make a comb-like jig that you heat up and touch the foil to make the line at once
    -Use a laser engraver
    -fix a soldering iron to a cnc router
    You can even make double-sided compartments if you put a single layer of the foil inside the sheet.
    To ease putting in the components, cut one layer (both outer layers if you make double-sided) shorter few milimetres before melting in the lines.

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Farnell ones are the only A4's I've found, the web page is slightly misleading as it mentions resistors. A5s are a bit too small - you need something that will take 100 parts as 2 strips as that's a common MOQ.
      EEVBLOG made some A4 ones, but with horizontal orientation, which again looks like it ends up a bit short - listed in his store but often out of stock.

    • @stefantrethan
      @stefantrethan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe a cogged wheel fitted to a large soldering iron like a pizza cutter?
      I'm sure you could get the heat to transfer into the wheel if you mount it in a solid copper yoke.

    • @AndrewGillard
      @AndrewGillard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What you likely want for sealing strips in plastic sheets like that is a device called an "impulse sealer" (at least that's how you find them on AliExpress & eBay). Big Clive's torn-down one before, but it's essentially a heating element strip connected to a variable timer that, when tweaked just right, melts plastic sleeves/bags together. Those are also how you seal up anti-static or polythene(?) bags semi-permanently. Not sure how fiddly it'd be to use one to seal just _parts_ of a page, though - maybe aluminium tape in the areas that you don't want sealed, to reflect the heat away? I've not tried it (and my impulse sealer is much too small a device for this kind of work).

  • @RoadRunnerMeep
    @RoadRunnerMeep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great little setup :_)

  • @johnpossum556
    @johnpossum556 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the vise, simply mount some material on the last 3 inches so it grips beyond the countertop anti-spill hump. Around here you google "Cow mat" and you can get very thick rubber that is super super heavy duty. Makes for a good floor on concrete, too.
    As far as countertop material in the USA you can get butcher block maple tops in the same sizes as countertops. Extremely durable in the long run because you can keep oiling them and sanding them down. Don't know if you have that in England. I know when Stanley was there they favored the english beech wood.

    • @philpem
      @philpem 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the idea of sticking a piece of rubber sheet between the vice and the bench. I've got a scrap of EPDM rubber shoved under the desk looking for a use, and I think I might have just found it!

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed you have quiet a bit of dust in the workshop, especially on lids and items on the ground. I was wondering how do you clean stuff up. I was thinking to invest in an air filter, and humidity control, both for making environment less prone to dust, and to ESD, but I have no idea how these air filters are effective at all in actually reducing dust.

  • @DEADB33F
    @DEADB33F 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any love for clear plastic takeaway containers?
    I buy them by the 100 from the local cash & carry. They do various sizes which all have the same footprint but have varying heights.
    Work great as part bins, and I also use them for storing bolts, washers, nuts, etc. for my main mechanics workshop.
    ...And another lot with woodscrews of every size in my wood-shop.

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't have the slide-out-ability from a stack though, and the ones I've seen are a bit deep and not as long

    • @krishna34674
      @krishna34674 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      they just break too fast and they're kinda annoying imo

  • @afroninjadeluxe
    @afroninjadeluxe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are 1206 SMD resistor "sample pack" on AliExpress with 4000 or 8000 resistors in a binder. The strips are not long enough for a feeder but it might be useful for development to quickly find the resistor value thats needed.
    Edit: oh, it gets covered 25:00

    • @berni8k
      @berni8k 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well these books are for the weird values.
      I have a reel of the common parts like 10E 100E 1K 10K 1nF 100nF 1uF etc where i can grab as many as i want. But when you need that one single 91K resistor for that regulator voltage feedback or whatever the books are a lifesaver.

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't think that can of Raid is an effective software debugging tool. Just saying.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick way to spruce up that white melamine is to grab some scouring powder and scrub it with some in water. Gets the dirt off and strips the top oxidised melamine layer off, leaving a surface that looks like new, and also fills the lighter scratches.

  • @SzymekCRX
    @SzymekCRX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PVC pipe for screwdrivers - good idea! thanks!

    • @Brian_Of_Melbourne
      @Brian_Of_Melbourne 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also usable for similar purposes are shampoo bottles, with the top cut off.

  • @undersiege3402
    @undersiege3402 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    helps to have one of thos opensource lcr meters to identify unknown parts

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree there is a need for long, narrow and shallow boxes for tubes. I hate tubes, it is hard to organise. And I also need to invest into SMD binders. I have gazillion of short SMD tapes and they are just in boxes, but it doesn't work for quick work, because boxes are a bit too large (deep), so I always end fishing in parts and it wasts a lot of time.. The antistatic plastic would be a big plus. Unfortunately for me, almost all my boxes and organizers are for mechanical parts, and are not really ESD proof.

  • @AxelDominatoR
    @AxelDominatoR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have any issue with your modified computer case and airflow/dust? I hacked together several custom cases for my computers and in my lab I either have to clean them often or add dust filters whenever possible. Also sometimes that causes issues with operating temperature (for high performance computers that require lots of cooling). Lots of great ideas, thanks for sharing!

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have computers in my workshop. They get packed with dust. So a couple times a year I have to clean them out. One of the tricks is to hold the fan blades with a pencil while I'm blowing them out, so I don't wipe the bearings in the fans. Air dusting is a bit of an art to not do more harm than good.

  • @robstorms
    @robstorms 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mike !!

  • @dogastus
    @dogastus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite part: "Funky Op Amps"

  • @mahill2006
    @mahill2006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Digging the shutter shades @ 9:27

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The more power / main sockets the better. Every 10 cm there should be a socket, so it is convinient to connect stuff.

  • @kaunomedis7926
    @kaunomedis7926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, nice. Now I feeling fine because my workshops is a bit cleaner... :)

  • @andrewschannel3635
    @andrewschannel3635 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You might like to look into systainers/sortainers for some of the tools. Those open tubes of screwdrivers and testers across the desk must collect a lot of dust and be time consuming to clean?

  • @simtubes
    @simtubes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm, "clear peel box" appears to work only on ebay.co.uk. Those do look like a decent solution, though.

  • @station240
    @station240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The triple ended USB cable is the SparkFun Cerberus USB Cable www.sparkfun.com/products/12016

  • @ianide2480
    @ianide2480 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A VME board right up top?

  • @iitool
    @iitool 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the enterprise screensaver on the scope screen!

    • @Petertronic
      @Petertronic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is actually a hidden easter egg in the scope :)

  • @ChongMcBong
    @ChongMcBong 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks mike, very interesting :)

  • @denisohbrien
    @denisohbrien 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For marking and writing on any surface Inc black plastic... Tip-ex pens. They will even hold up to oxy-act heat. Oil, water and mild solvents. They are worth their weight in gold to me (a mechanic)

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will try - are they prone to drying & gumming up when not used though, like paint pens?

    • @denisohbrien
      @denisohbrien 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and no. Genuine tip ex pens seem to hold up well,I store them with no lid and when they do block up a few dabs in a puddle of brake cleaner they are good to go again. Brake clean obviously being readily available in my workshop. Grab a couple and try, I mark up all my socket and tool trays with them too. And even in this chemically and physically harsh environment the hold up great.

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are they water of solvent based ?- in the UK I think they stopped selling the old solvent tippex because kids were sniffing it.

    • @etelmo
      @etelmo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeap, the old ones were Trichloroethane based and so much more usable than the newer ones.

    • @denisohbrien
      @denisohbrien 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I purchased a box of 10(display case) a month or so ago ,am in the uk. They say right on them "may cause drowsiness or dizziness" so assume they are the good stuff. this box will likely last a million years but if I need more i'll need to bear in mind to get the good ones. to write with them you have to push the tip in and squeese gently, they wont write small like an ultra fine marker but will write small enough to mark up automotive connectors and vacuum hoses.

  • @csbluechip
    @csbluechip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Can you share the make+model of the gooseneck lamps and 13m05s please.