The Fujifilm XPro one with the XF 35mm f1.4 is a great combination. I thought the shots were nicer from the Xpro one. If you can live with slow autofocus the XPro one produces excellent images. The jpegs are so good straight out of camera.
Indeed it is I have upcoming episodes with those two products and a lot of images made with that specific combination. Xpro1 focus much bether with the optical viewfinder than the the EVf
Bought my XPro1 10 years ago as a bundle with 35mm f1.4 and 18mm f2 for £900 GBP. It was the best ever deal as the camera was under 1 year old and each of the lenses were selling £300-400 at the the time. Fast forward 10 years and the images still blow me away when compared to my XT3.
I get what you mean, I got the camera with the 35 1.4 got a rif of the lens with regret but its a must to get other stuffs. Got a 50mm f2. Have issues with that focal length at the moment tho. I want to revisit the xpro1 and make a film specifically for that camera. Think it might come pretty soon.
I had the X-Pro1 / 35mm f/1.4 combo back in the day, images from it do absolutely have a special quality, in the same way as the original X100 or Nikon D700 have. I remember how websites like DPReview really missed the mark in their reviews of the X-Pro1, so much noise was made about AF performance to the point that they, like with the X100, they didn’t get how special it was.
Thank you for the comparison. For me precisely the key main difference, that is most useful for my use and style, is the capacity for jpeg rendering with all it's tweaking options + film simulations. When viewed from that angle, there's a substantial difference between the two cameras, with a big advantage to the X-Pro3 which would be of course, very expected.
Not to mention the X Pro 1 has two different viewfinder magnifications for people who like using the framelines with different focal lengths. If you only shoot with manual focus lenses then the X Pro 1 is a no brainer.
I bought an X-M1 for $178 and found a used 35 1.4 for $350. Amazing combo, super light weight, same iq as the xpro 1 for the price as just its body. So so pleased with it so far
I don’t own any of the xtrans 1 cameras but been researching few hours now and it feels like xpro1 has the best IQ out of the three because it has no anti aliasing filter not like xm/xe1 which gives a slight bit more detail and I think that’s why it’s still holding up so well. But in herbal I love the turquoise blues the xtrans 1 sensor gives, really need to get me a xpro1!!
Very interesting. Sadly, my eyes are not as good as they were when I was your age, and the X-Pro 1 does not have built in dioptor correction, so I can't give it serious consideration. I guess I could try to find screw-in eyepiece lenses, but then I'd have to figure out the amount of correction and hope I got it right. This is so much more of a burden than simply dialing in correction until the display is sharp. I do have an X-E2s with the very next generation X Trans 2 sensor and maybe not exactly the same as your test, I find that it is still viable even when compared to my X Trans 4 bodies. Not better or worse, just a different pallet that can produce a very nice rendering. Fujifilm users are lucky to have so many choices.
solid points! I had a X-E2 before. At the moment I have a X-E3 that's going to be the next camera that I will feature on the channel. It's to bad with the diopter, I think tho that the X-E1 have a diopter and its cheeper that the X-pro1 and have the same sensor. I also heard that some Nikon diopters works with the X-pro1. Perhaps that's some good future content to do and look into. Even if it's not an issue for me I think it would be good if I ever sell it and it would help a lot of people to being able to use it. The fuji system is as you saying very interesting since the old stuffs are still up for the task and are very interesting now days. I also picket up a Nikon D200 with a 10megapixel ccd sensor awhile ago. That one is also producing enjoyable images, I remember that Fuji use to have some old DSLR cameras that shared same mount as Nikon perhaps I should look into those..
All you have to do is go to a store and try on reading glasses to find out what magnification works for you. That’s the diopter magnification lens you need.
Very very nice images. How did you process your X-pro 1 files on C1? I intended to use C1 with my recently acquired X-Pro 1 as I do with my other Fuji cameras but I can't choose a different film simulation than the original one used at the moment of shooting, However, LR does allow changing film simulations so I use LR the most when processing X-Pro 1 files.
Thanks! I use this method sometimes to unlock simulations: th-cam.com/video/Uy5IwW-Sr3E/w-d-xo.html Back in the days C1 was just much bether that LR and sometime I hear peaople complaining about something in LR and other saying that problem don't exist in C1 When it comes to my X-pro1 workflow I have a color mode and a monochrome mode on it based on receipts that I made on Jpeg. I shoot Raw+Jpeg keep the jpeg as a reference and have presets addad on the raw in C1 that match my in camera look.
Thanks for a very objective essay. Indeed some things look nicer in one, others look nicer in the most recent version of the camera, I think I would be happy with both. I wonder if it is an issue of getting used to something, I had a Sony R1 and when I tried a Fujifilm X-E1 I remember the first weeks I set it to Negative High and ISO 400 with noise reduced to the minimum because the colors were too vibrant and the files were so free of noise, in comparison, that it was unsettling.
Thanks! I had an X-pro2 for while as well but I never developed a strong bound to it as with the X-pro1 My wife use a XE-3 with same sensor as the X-pro2. I did however talked about X-pro2 vs X-pro3 in this video: th-cam.com/video/VbES7VLzluM/w-d-xo.html&. Perhaps I will do X-trans 3 vs X-trans4 video down the road..
@@Kim_Alexander I'll be sure to check out it out. :) Xtrans 3 and 4 definitely have their own characteristics. So i think it could be worthwhile. Cheers
Interesting comparison! I like the overall look and colors of the Xpro3 better, but, I do like how the Xpro1 renders the sky better. Overall, I much prefer the advancements in the newer Xpro3 compared to the original, and I think for me the biggest differentiator is going to be the lens used; and that 35mm f/1.4 is going to look great no matter what camera it’s on. Side note: One thing I’ve noticed in older generation cameras circa early 2000’s like the original Xpro, original Canon 5D, and Nikon D3 and Nikon D700 all produced similar pleasing colors, especially with skies. The newer modern sensors I find tend to produce a much more technically accurate result in color rendition, or sometimes with a cooler, magenta bias. Anyway, both are great cameras, especially with that 35mm f/1.4 lens on them.
At the case of 8:00 I have to ask, what are the chances that the delay between the two photos was enough for the light to be slightly changed, because the rgb graph showcases that the light conditions might not be the same or that the X-Pro 1 somehow enriched the existing colours of the image.
I put both cameras on a bracket sonthat I could ores the trigger at the same time so there it's any delay to consider when comparing. The xpro 1 is handling some colors differently than the xpro3
@@Kim_Alexander Apparently X-Trance 1 does has a different processing or my guess would be that the lens correction that automatically the cameras are doing even on RAW files is different.
@@gaarakabuto1 I think it comes down to the prosessor I used the same lens on both cameras a 23mm f2 Prosessors makes a big difference some leicas have the same sensor as Panasonics but colors comes out different
Thanks, very interesting! The first X-Trans sensor is arguably the best ever made. I'll never get rid of my X-Pro1 although I love my X-Pro3. Nothing in the digital world comes as close to film as this one, especially in black and white. Overall the image quality is stunning. I wish Fuji would use it again in a body like the X-Pro3
Its an amazing camera indeed! As you say it comes close to film, and still beeing some what modern. Otherwise I find Nikon D200 and Fuji S5pro to be fun cameras but big. Planing to make a second film about thes camera where I focus on the camera only..
back in the day when i was using digital backs from sinar on Sinar p3 cameras and Hasselblad they was at 12mp delivery many images for large prints to clients. X-trans1 gives 4896px while X-Trans3 gives 6240px on longest side. Back in the day i was told that an easy way to calculate how large an image could be printed was to remove the last number of your resolution your would then remain with 254dpi The printing service i use print in 200dpi that require 5512x3937px for an 50x70 print. Witch means that you need to add 616PX to the x-trans1 and that would be impossible to see any difference at
The X-Trans 1 sensor "only" shoots in a 12bit color depth that's why the color sience of those cameras are diffrent compared to the newer cameras. The irony is though that during the 20 years i been made my living out of photography it's only the latest generation of cameras that i had issues with. The hdmi of the xt5 stoped working, the main circuit board of my A7siii stoped working and was replaced. My A7iv fried it self during an intense day of shooting. before this i never had any issues. Regarding Fujifilm, the X-Pro3 also have a well knowed issue with the screen cable. however i think the well built old digital cameras going to hold for a long time. While we well see the latest generation have issues with all kind of stuff especially ibis units guess only time will tell
The Fujifilm XPro one with the XF 35mm f1.4 is a great combination. I thought the shots were nicer from the Xpro one. If you can live with slow autofocus the XPro one produces excellent images. The jpegs are so good straight out of camera.
Indeed it is I have upcoming episodes with those two products and a lot of images made with that specific combination.
Xpro1 focus much bether with the optical viewfinder than the the EVf
Well, it's 2024 and I just bought a really nice condition X-Pro 1 for £300. Can't wait to get shooting.
nice enjoy it!
Nice price! Is it body only or with a lense?
lucky person, its gone up to £400 for a good condition one now. I really want to get one round £300 but hasnt been through a washing machine
@@jungleboy1 Around £500 used now in UK. Price hikes are beyond a joke.
Bought my XPro1 10 years ago as a bundle with 35mm f1.4 and 18mm f2 for £900 GBP. It was the best ever deal as the camera was under 1 year old and each of the lenses were selling £300-400 at the the time. Fast forward 10 years and the images still blow me away when compared to my XT3.
I get what you mean, I got the camera with the 35 1.4 got a rif of the lens with regret but its a must to get other stuffs. Got a 50mm f2. Have issues with that focal length at the moment tho.
I want to revisit the xpro1 and make a film specifically for that camera. Think it might come pretty soon.
Xpro 1 is so fun to shoot with! Personally it’s my most favorite camera ever.
Its very fun. I think It might be my favorite to. That one or the gfx50r
The X Pro1 slows me down to have more photography experience. This camera I always carry with me
@@pietervanhofwegen same here have 3 cameras that comes with me most of the time as an everyday carry xpro1 or 3 or Sony a7 with some vintage lens.
I had the X-Pro1 / 35mm f/1.4 combo back in the day, images from it do absolutely have a special quality, in the same way as the original X100 or Nikon D700 have. I remember how websites like DPReview really missed the mark in their reviews of the X-Pro1, so much noise was made about AF performance to the point that they, like with the X100, they didn’t get how special it was.
Thank you for the comparison. For me precisely the key main difference, that is most useful for my use and style, is the capacity for jpeg rendering with all it's tweaking options + film simulations. When viewed from that angle, there's a substantial difference between the two cameras, with a big advantage to the X-Pro3 which would be of course, very expected.
Not to mention the X Pro 1 has two different viewfinder magnifications for people who like using the framelines with different focal lengths. If you only shoot with manual focus lenses then the X Pro 1 is a no brainer.
I bought an X-M1 for $178 and found a used 35 1.4 for $350. Amazing combo, super light weight, same iq as the xpro 1 for the price as just its body. So so pleased with it so far
Sounds like an interesting camera. I like view finders tho but a cool camera to bring around
I don’t own any of the xtrans 1 cameras but been researching few hours now and it feels like xpro1 has the best IQ out of the three because it has no anti aliasing filter not like xm/xe1 which gives a slight bit more detail and I think that’s why it’s still holding up so well. But in herbal I love the turquoise blues the xtrans 1 sensor gives, really need to get me a xpro1!!
Did you use the same lens at the same aperture etc. ? Interesting video. Best wishes!
Thanks for commenting!
the only difference is the camera, lens is rhe same and exposure values are the same.
Very interesting. Sadly, my eyes are not as good as they were when I was your age, and the X-Pro 1 does not have built in dioptor correction, so I can't give it serious consideration. I guess I could try to find screw-in eyepiece lenses, but then I'd have to figure out the amount of correction and hope I got it right. This is so much more of a burden than simply dialing in correction until the display is sharp.
I do have an X-E2s with the very next generation X Trans 2 sensor and maybe not exactly the same as your test, I find that it is still viable even when compared to my X Trans 4 bodies. Not better or worse, just a different pallet that can produce a very nice rendering.
Fujifilm users are lucky to have so many choices.
solid points!
I had a X-E2 before. At the moment I have a X-E3 that's going to be the next camera that I will feature on the channel.
It's to bad with the diopter, I think tho that the X-E1 have a diopter and its cheeper that the X-pro1 and have the same sensor. I also heard that some Nikon diopters works with the X-pro1.
Perhaps that's some good future content to do and look into. Even if it's not an issue for me I think it would be good if I ever sell it and it would help a lot of people to being able to use it.
The fuji system is as you saying very interesting since the old stuffs are still up for the task
and are very interesting now days.
I also picket up a Nikon D200 with a 10megapixel ccd sensor awhile ago.
That one is also producing enjoyable images, I remember that Fuji use to have some old DSLR cameras that shared same mount as Nikon perhaps I should look into those..
The diopter screw ins for Nikon fit. They are widely available.
All you have to do is go to a store and try on reading glasses to find out what magnification works for you.
That’s the diopter magnification lens you need.
Very very nice images. How did you process your X-pro 1 files on C1? I intended to use C1 with my recently acquired X-Pro 1 as I do with my other Fuji cameras but I can't choose a different film simulation than the original one used at the moment of shooting, However, LR does allow changing film simulations so I use LR the most when processing X-Pro 1 files.
Thanks!
I use this method sometimes to unlock simulations: th-cam.com/video/Uy5IwW-Sr3E/w-d-xo.html
Back in the days C1 was just much bether that LR and sometime I hear peaople complaining about something in LR and other saying that problem don't exist in C1
When it comes to my X-pro1 workflow I have a color mode and a monochrome mode on it based on receipts that I made on Jpeg.
I shoot Raw+Jpeg keep the jpeg as a reference and have presets addad on the raw in C1 that match my in camera look.
@@Kim_Alexander thanks for sharing!
Got a X-PRO1 and a X-T3, that's perfect for me
Solid combination, i almost have the Same, X-pro1 and X-pro3
My wife have Xe-3 That i can use if i want..
Have an X-Pro1 and I’m waiting for my XT-3 in the mail.
@@Kamoblue best match
Thanks for a very objective essay. Indeed some things look nicer in one, others look nicer in the most recent version of the camera, I think I would be happy with both. I wonder if it is an issue of getting used to something, I had a Sony R1 and when I tried a Fujifilm X-E1 I remember the first weeks I set it to Negative High and ISO 400 with noise reduced to the minimum because the colors were too vibrant and the files were so free of noise, in comparison, that it was unsettling.
I have x-pro1 works great with xf70-300mm too because that lens have ois
Is the WB really better on the original xpro1 like some people say?
@@johnnytsc3446 judge fi your self I have a video where I compare all 5 of them
th-cam.com/video/KEuObyiTHZI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=E6o6OlNkkQJAngNQ
Very useful comparison, thank you!
Me watching with a X-pro2. great video regardless.
Thanks!
I had an X-pro2 for while as well but I never developed a strong bound to it as with the X-pro1
My wife use a XE-3 with same sensor as the X-pro2. I did however talked about X-pro2 vs X-pro3 in this video:
th-cam.com/video/VbES7VLzluM/w-d-xo.html&.
Perhaps I will do X-trans 3 vs X-trans4 video down the road..
@@Kim_Alexander I'll be sure to check out it out. :)
Xtrans 3 and 4 definitely have their own characteristics. So i think it could be worthwhile. Cheers
I shoot with Fuji X-Pro1 and X-Pro2. I see no significant difference in image quality. However, auto focusing is much better in the X-Pro2.
Any practical difference from xe1?
XE1 have the same sensor and processor so my guess is that they render images the same way
so the differences are just physical
XE1 EVF is bigger and better. But the Pro is more solid and professional plus has the OVF.
Interesting comparison! I like the overall look and colors of the Xpro3 better, but, I do like how the Xpro1 renders the sky better.
Overall, I much prefer the advancements in the newer Xpro3 compared to the original, and I think for me the biggest differentiator is going to be the lens used; and that 35mm f/1.4 is going to look great no matter what camera it’s on.
Side note: One thing I’ve noticed in older generation cameras circa early 2000’s like the original Xpro, original Canon 5D, and Nikon D3 and Nikon D700 all produced similar pleasing colors, especially with skies. The newer modern sensors I find tend to produce a much more technically accurate result in color rendition, or sometimes with a cooler, magenta bias.
Anyway, both are great cameras, especially with that 35mm f/1.4 lens on them.
I paired x-pro1 with Leica lenses and images are better than Leica M’s 😅
At the case of 8:00 I have to ask, what are the chances that the delay between the two photos was enough for the light to be slightly changed, because the rgb graph showcases that the light conditions might not be the same or that the X-Pro 1 somehow enriched the existing colours of the image.
I put both cameras on a bracket sonthat I could ores the trigger at the same time so there it's any delay to consider when comparing. The xpro 1 is handling some colors differently than the xpro3
@@Kim_Alexander Apparently X-Trance 1 does has a different processing or my guess would be that the lens correction that automatically the cameras are doing even on RAW files is different.
@@gaarakabuto1 I think it comes down to the prosessor I used the same lens on both cameras a 23mm f2
Prosessors makes a big difference some leicas have the same sensor as Panasonics but colors comes out different
Xpro1 with the 1.4 looks great in b&w
It does do, or it don’t do?
Thanks, very interesting! The first X-Trans sensor is arguably the best ever made. I'll never get rid of my X-Pro1 although I love my X-Pro3. Nothing in the digital world comes as close to film as this one, especially in black and white. Overall the image quality is stunning. I wish Fuji would use it again in a body like the X-Pro3
Its an amazing camera indeed!
As you say it comes close to film, and still beeing some what modern.
Otherwise I find Nikon D200 and Fuji S5pro to be fun cameras but big.
Planing to make a second film about thes camera where I focus on the camera only..
Where can I find Xpro2 ??? ....It's discontinued.
Second hand
Check out keh and mpb
@@Kim_Alexander Okay... many many thanks Kim 😊 🙏
Can’t decide between X Pro 1 vs X Pro 3? Get an X Pro 2! 😁
@@wh0tube you could make it worse, just buy x-e4. I own one and have no idea what to buy 😰
Great video. Thanks Kim
I see no difference in 50x70cm prints on Xtrans1 or xtrans4
back in the day when i was using digital backs from sinar on Sinar p3 cameras and Hasselblad they was at 12mp delivery many images for large prints to clients.
X-trans1 gives 4896px while X-Trans3 gives 6240px on longest side.
Back in the day i was told that an easy way to calculate how large an image could be printed was to remove the last number of your resolution your would then remain with 254dpi
The printing service i use print in 200dpi
that require 5512x3937px for an 50x70 print.
Witch means that you need to add 616PX to the x-trans1 and that would be impossible to see any difference at
I want a conversion kit for B& W only on the Pro1
I. think you just need to remove the color filter aray on the sensor.. would be cool. to do!
The Fuji trans I sensor masturbation has gone too far.
it's a good sensor tho, one of the iconic ones, perhaps I should start working on a top 10 list of the best looking sensors... 👍
The images look a lot like my Leica X1
Absolutely horrible English in the headlines.
@@chbrownie18
Lol What's wrong with the header?
Fujifilm X-Pro1 VS Fujifilm X-Pro3
DOES THE X-Pro1 HAVE ....... THE X-Pro3 DOESN'T?
@@chbrownie18 my friend!
That's the thumbnail! If you going to complain on nonsense stuffs then get your own things straight!
The secret ingredients are old electronics that fuji don't hold the spare parts for anymore .
Buy cheap or might end up with expensive paper weight 😮
The X-Trans 1 sensor "only" shoots in a 12bit color depth that's why the color sience of those cameras are diffrent compared to the newer cameras.
The irony is though that during the 20 years i been made my living out of photography it's only the latest generation of cameras that i had issues with. The hdmi of the xt5 stoped working, the main circuit board of my A7siii stoped working and was replaced. My A7iv fried it self during an intense day of shooting. before this i never had any issues.
Regarding Fujifilm, the X-Pro3 also have a well knowed issue with the screen cable.
however i think the well built old digital cameras going to hold for a long time. While we well see the latest generation have issues with all kind of stuff especially ibis units guess only time will tell