I’ve been watching this video at least once a day for the last month and I’m still having a hard time deciding what to buy for my next ultra light rig! Thanks for your knowledge and perspective on each reel and rod!
i got several similar comments below.. I want to make a 2020 version of the same video but not much has changed.. There are no new reels except on very high end..
@@MrSkittles618 same here... But any rod. whether it's a dollar or it's a $300 it's gonna catch you fish.. Someone using $500 rod and me using Shakespeare micro for example The fish don't see don't care how nice you are looking or anything like that LMao We should do it I mean he should do Take someone along with you cheapest rod and you a expensive stuff see wasup.. same rig... 🤔
I think I have watched this video 15 times LoL. I got super lucky yesterday! I've been trying to find that Shakespeare rod all week and yesterday I went to Walmart. The fishing section was cleared like it had been, but they had one Shakespeare 7ft Micro light rod! I absolutely love it! Right now I just have a cheap plastic reel on it. I just ordered the Legalis 2500D with the 5:3:1 gear ratio. I hope that's the one your talking about. I trust your opinion on ultra light rods and reels. Thank you!
i have this exact combo on my boat all the time. Don't even take it off the boat. U can do anything from bluegill and crappie to bass and walleye, and even some small catfish that will bite my crappie lures from time to time. The balance is perfect between that rod and that reel. I even think they look good together, even though neither is very good looking by itself. But gray and black is just a good look.
Thanks for the overview. I had already watched all of the individual reviews so I sort of already knew what was coming. I do have to say that the 2500 size on the LT reels are plenty light enough for ultra light fishing as you say. I'm testing their new 2500 LT Emcast bite and run right now. It's pretty awesome, but I haven't caught enough fish with it for a full review yet.
@@Javaslinger7730 I used mine several times this fall and it seems great, but I haven't hooked into any good fish with it yet to get a feel for how it handles them. Now it's hardwater season so I'll have to wait for spring unless I try for bigger fish through the ice. I love the way it looks and feels. I'm having a hard time matching it up to rod, though. The 2500 is so light for a bait runner that it doesn't balance well with my 7' rods, which is what I usually use the bait runners on. I might have to get a higher end rod that is both light and strong to match it with for next year...maybe a St. Croix Mojo Cat or something along those lines. The only thing I wish it had was a screw in handle. There's nothing wrong with the one it has, but I like the screw in ones better.
I just traded for a jdm model excense and it has a 5.3 gear ratio. I should get it in on Tuesday and can’t wait. I can’t wait to get a vanford as well.
Great video, I like your channel. I just have a comment about your recommendation not to use high ratio reel, like 6:2:1 ratio. High ratio is good if you are spinning, because sometimes you might need that extra fast movement of the lure in the water if you want the fish to react and a higher ratio reel serves that purpose. So, the high ratio is to be considered for specific fish and specific situations and not to be completely trashed. That's my opinion. I wanted to thank you for your very informative and thoughtful reviews.
There is no freshwater fishing where u need more than 5 gear ratio. Only in saltwater there is some fishing where u need to burn it real fast, but even there you do just fine with 5. I never said that it's wrong though, because it is a personal preference. If you want more resistance and faster retrieve speed then high gear ratio is for you. I pay a lot of money to get the reels with the smallest resistance in the world, and it would be just stupid for me to just give it up by using high gear ratio.Vanquish has lower resistance than Vanford if both reels have same gear ratio. But a high gear ratio Vanquish will have SIGNIFICANTLY (20% more) higher resistance than the cheaper Vanford, if the Vanford has low gear ratio. Then its kind of stupid to spend extra 200$ on Vanquish, right?
This is the old one. I released a new version this december. Although... not many changes from this video, but there are some changes in the mid price range
Any love for the BG 1500 for ultralight application. Been running it with 4lb test in both salt and freshwater and has performed well and held up well. Yes, heavier than the LT but i feel it can take punishment of getting wet and being knocked around in kayak and when shore fishing better
no love for BG for ultralight fishing. Yes, it can take punisment - that's the purpose of this reel. If u need a reel to punish during your trips then its a right because Legalis LT definitely cannot take punishment. However punishment is not a dimension that I ever consider during Ultrlight fishing. I need finesse and sensitivity, and low inertia so u can work a micro jig better. In that respect Legalis LT is much better and it is also cheaper, so i cannot recommend BG for ultralight fishing,
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Very detailed and helpful video. Just a quick question, what is the difference between the legalis and the theory? Is the theory worth the extra $200? If so, why? I have only fished using $70 equipment and am trying to decide if going up a bit is worth it. I know it can’t help me catch more fish, but what makes it worth it? Thanks so much. Currently using the daiwa legalis lt and the presso.
1. on the difference between Legalis and Theory - i believe absolutely every part is different. The gears are machine cut aluminum vs cast zinc alloy (much better) , the frame is carbon vs plastic (much more rigid, less flex), Drag is somehow much better even though it looks similar, it has more bearings and higher quality bearings, it has seals everywhere, including magnetic oil seal on the main shaft, the roller bearing is better, even the god dam handle is better and lighter. So yeah, there are some differences. 2. Is it worth it . It is impossible to answer this question for other people since Value is 100% subjective. For me it is worth it, given my income, my other fishing tackle, my type of fishing, my personal preferences in life and many other things. For it may not be worth it as your entire life is different than mine. I don't think anyone needs a more than a Legalis for ultralight fishing. You will not catch more fish with a Theory. It is spending money for pleasure. It looks awesome, sounds awesome, feels awesome, but doesn't catch more fish
You really need to try the Kuying Teton rods!! They are quality rods made in china which can be purchased through aliexpress and have a huge following, especially internationally. I wanted a budget BFS (Ultralight baitcasting setup) and was recommended this rod. They are well respected in the BFS community and are made out of all FUJI components. They also have the ribbed finish like the Daiwa Presso and other JDM rods. My particular model is the TTC662L which is a 2-piece 6'6" light powered casting rod, but they also have a spinning version. This is the rod that I would recommend as I have actual experience with it, albeit only in the casting setup and not spinning. The spinning rod only weighs 81 grams, but unfortunately I believe they are currently out of stock. They also have a 6'4" 2-piece spinning rod in Ultralight power and it only weighs 61 grams! Sadly, I don't have experience with it and am not sure of the characteristics of it. I can tell you that the rod I have is not a noodle at all and I love it
I have several chinese ultralights. Tsurinoya, some dragon and forgot what the other one was. I can't buy them all, there is too many of them and they are all the same. To me all of the rods on aliexpress feel the same. They are ok but there is nothing special about them. One day i will make a review of all my chinese rods at once.
Totally agree with you that St. Croix panfish rod is not designed for jigging and casting 1/64 ounce lures. You may like to try TFO trout and panfish rod. Unlike most Japanese rods, the blank bends entirely. Like it for casting ultra light lures.
This was a great video. A lot of great info in this. I"ve been trying to find a Presso but they're all out of stock. I do have that same micro series rod & Legalis reel though. It's really only been in the last year that I've started fishing for smaller species. It's mainly catfish & carp for me, I'm a hobby dough bait maker so it kinda goes with that well. I wanted to ask if you run the factory felt drag washers in your Legalis reels? If so, you might want to think about trying the carbontex washers. They're 8$ and difference is night & day in terms of drag smoothnes and so much more fun with any smaller species. Anyway, great video sir....
It used to be only carp and catfish for me too, but slowly ultralight fishing took over. Be careful - its very addictive. Every rod i recommend becomes out of stock hehe : ) I have carbontex washers in all of my carp reels, but i don't like carbon in the 1000 size reels. Feels too rough. I use only felt, and i oil it with the factory daiwa felt oil. Even for 2500 i still prefer felt over carbon. Only for carp and catfish i prefer carbon
I live in Texas and I like to catch any kind of fish. My favorites used to be stocked rainbow trout (6 to 12 inches) and bass. My favorite bass techniques are weightless worms and flukes. Is there a combo that would work well for both, or should they be separate? I need 2 piece rods to transport and can't spend much on fishing at the moment. Thank you.
The fenwick HMX is an amazing rod and amazing value. Get the 7’ ML. However it will be a bit much for trout. The best rod for trout i know is the 6’6 daiwa presso, but that will be too soft for bass. As for reel, daiwa legalis LT 2500 can work for both.
Jim Scott i can tell u havent watched the whole video, and i dont blane u coz its too long. But if u want to save money watch the whole thing. I go over the reasons why i recomment ine over the other.
Thank you for the reply, my upgrades in the 80's were Shimanos, X2000 and custom X2500 on Shakespeare Intrepid 6'6" mediums. Recently I bought a 7' medium Elite Ugly Stick combo. My typical bass catches are 3/4 - 1.5 pounds, a few 2 - 4 pounds, and one 5+ pounder. Typically fishing open bank areas of ponds. That's being said, I was thinking maybe one of the rods good for jigging would be good for weightless worms, just uncertain whether it would have enough stiffness for 3/0 or 4/0 worm hook hooksets. Also not sure if stiff enough for that was too stiff for playing trout. Happy Thanksgiving.
I have considered the Microlite, Fenwick Eagles, Hmx's, Hmg' s and others. Just not sure what a sensitive today is and the difference it makes. I will say my rods my see travel abuse. Is there anything to salvage or should I start anew. Thank you.
Get the HMX 7' ML for bass. Maybe M if u want stiffer, not not more than that. then get the shakespeare micro light 7' L for trout. The daiwa presso is a very fragile rod, will not take much transportation abuse.
Just getting around to watching this again. Totally agree on the legalis for freshwater, but I do like the fuego 3000 on a 7’ medium mojo inshore - that’s light saltwater gear for topwater stripers Have any experience with the st croix triumph 6, 6’6” light (not UL).? The current model are currently on sale now
Great reviews....as always! I think you would really like the Leland Lures Trout Slayer Series rod..$49.95. It’s ultra light AND fantastic for jigging!
Watched this video again, can't make up my mind between Daiwa presso, fenwick hmx, or fenwick hmg. What would you recommend ? I will be going for trout, kokannee with small spoons and spinners. Maybe jigging under a float for crappies.
I only like the HMX of all the Fenwick rods. I know they have some more expensive ones and some better looking ones, but this is the only one that feels right. Then the HMX and the Presso are NOT alternatives. Presso is the perfect float and spoon and spinner rod. HMX is very sharp and more of a jigging rod. You probably need both. They are not expensive - TREAT YOURSELF
I just picked up an Exceller LT 2500D off Amazon and it came missing the dust cap,super tight, clearly had been opened/returned.... I think someone exchanged an Ebay knockoff... Anyway, hoping the replacement is a sick buttery smooth as expected
some people are nasty. Sorry to hear that. Amazon would never sell knockoffs but I think you guessed exactly what happened. The reel will be super smooth, u will be amazed. Nothing under 200 is smoother.
I see a comment from you about daiwa emcast but when i click 'reply' it can't find it. Did u delete that comment? Just curious because i have a lot of disappearing comments lately and it bothers me because i try to reply to everyone and some of them I just can't find.
When it comes to vanquish, excense, stradic, stradic fl, theory, and legalis which specific models do you like the most? I'm ordering all reels from Japan if available. I know anything with an "h" or "hg" in model number is for high gear and it's not recommended. Also "s" or "m" for shimano is for small and medium spool, I like the idea of a larger spool so I'm still researching on spool size.
I buy the ones with no letters. Those are the low gear ratio models. I buy low gear ratio models of all reels - spinning and baitcasting, finess and heavy duty bottom fishing - always low gear ratio. Shimano doesn't have an ABS spool like daiwa. Even daiwa doesn't make reels with the ABS spool any more. Shimano makes what they call long stroke but that's no nearly as good. Shallow spool is good for ultralight fishing only. No need to put filler line on bottom.. It also has more space for drag washers but they use the same drag washers anyway. Overall shallow spool is not something i care much about. If they have it, i will get it, but if they don't, i don't care. It's not like low gear ratio. If the reel ONLY comes with high gear ratio, i wont even buy the reel
@@ifishcatfish I barely see any reels without a letter at the end of the model name. But sounds like as long as it's low gear ratio it's good to go for you. What do you consider high gear ratio?
do you think the shakespeare 7' light would get decent distance on an 1/8oz jig? Or do you have something on the table you'd recommend more (fishing for trout)
1/8 is heavy. Everything I own will cast 1/8 a mile. Yes, this rod would be excellent for that, but so would any other Ultralight. Even some Light power rods can handle that.
I am a salt water fisherman from Long Island, Montauk and Florida, living in Quebec and am getting into ultralight fishing as we can't go to the US now. I bought a Stradic FL 1000 and Nasci 1000 for my son or guest. They both feel great, Stradic a bit more powerful. I want something that works for salt water if we ever get back to the states.Is the Stradic overkill for an ultralight????
Stradic FL and Nasci are the two best saltwater reels on the market because they are sealed and have heavy strong frame. People usually buy them in the 3000-4000 sizes for Inshore fishing. Haven't heard anyone buy them in 1000 size for Ultralight, because u can buy the lighter versions and people prefer light for ultralight. That said, they are still great reels for UL fishing, when in 1000 size. If you have an UL rod under 200$, chances are these reels will balance just fine. On high end Japanese rods they will feel a little heavy. Is it 'overkill' of what? Fighting the fish? All reels are overkill for that, even the cheapest walmart reel is overkill. I buy nice reels for the pleasure of using them. Overkill would be me having way too much pleasure. That hasn't happened to me. If FL is overkill, what am I supposed to say about my Vanquish, Luvias, Presso LTD.. :) ?? Those must be superoverhyperkill! So enjoy your reels and don't feel guilty about it.
@@ifishcatfish I agree, we spend more time casting than catching!!! I do like a fine piece of equipment for any sport or hobby I do. The Stradic 1000 should be fun with 4lb line in the surf in Montauk with the small strippers and blues during the summer instead of hauling them in with 30lb on my Penn Conflict 5000 and 10 ft surf rod. I also picked up a Ballistic 3000 LT and Nasci 3000 for my 2 St Croix Tidemaster 7' travel rods in light and medium which I will use for larger freshwater fish and will be great for Montauk. Just got the Ballistic yesterday and am very impressed overall and got a very good deal to make it that much sweeter. Great job on the videos and your chat page!!!!
Just got my Daiwa luvias 1003 that I got from amazon .. Not a bad price.. 250..I paired it up on Major craft fine tail new model. 6'3.... so light.... ..it beats my old light setup on St. Croix pan fish edition paired on daiwa bg 1000... ..JDM is so addicting ... line was veritas 2.1
Have you ever tried any rapala rods. Some of my favorite ultra light rods are my rapala xtreme HM45 6'6". I have four of those rods. Unfortunately they are discontinued. They are not wobbly at all and very sensitive for the money. I have two other rapala rods. 7' light and 6'6" light action. Both of those are great as well. I may try to order some rapala rods from overseas to try since they dont sale them here in the USA anymore.
Great informative video. Which of the rods would you reccomend for long distance casting with 1/32 ounce jigs that's 7 feet or less? My budget is about $120 for the rod.
What line? If u use thin line, they all cast about the same. If u use 4 pound or more, watch the guides. Daiwa Presso has good guides. Fenwick HMX. The new B&M panfish rod is excellent for casting small jigs, if u use thin line..
@@ifishcatfish I normally use 2 or 4 lb trilene xl. I have also been thinking about that BnM rod ever since I saw Troutmagnetman's review on it. The current rod I use is a Bass Pro Microlite 5'6" ultralight. Would the extra foot really matter with casting distance?
It matters, but not night and day difference. The trilene line is thicker than japanese lines. If u go with the BNM rod u will have to stick with the 2 lb for sure. 4 lb trilene is really 6 lb diameter
Looking to take a step up from the my Stradic Ci4+ and Biomaster . At the moment it looks like Presso ltd vs Vanquish for me, unless there is another Daiwa to consider at that roughly that price point. Vanquish and Presso are similarly priced. Which should I get?
@@ifishcatfish Thanks ! I figured as much. I guess I'll keep my eyes open for any sales on the Presso ltd. Do want that reel also. Looking forward to catching trout with some fresh jdm gear. The local lake has been icefree since early march, so the trout is really feisty this year, even the sub 200 gram ones.
If I am fishing 2 lb test line on a 7'.6" ultralight rod, do you recommend the daiwa legalis LT 2500 or 1000? Is the 2500 model too big for 2 lb test? I like to finesse fish for trout and only use 2 lb test.
Thats a good question. As far a balance is concerned, your rig will definitely feel better with the 2500 size. Will feel more balanced and will cast farther with the bigger spool. But i have never put so thin of a line on my 2500 size reel. They are usually my white bass reels and i have 4 pound line on them and it works great with 4 lb. But if the line is too thin it will not reach the top and bottom of the spool, and will ruin your line lay. I don't know what to tell you
It's been some time since this video but THANK YOU. It was very helpful and I learned a lot. Unfortunately I have a Shimano Sahara 1000 so my heart broke a little when you said it's too heavy 😅 but I'm trying to figure out what to put this reel on since that's what I'm working with. Any ideas? I was thinking a St Croix Triumph with light power or a TFO trout and panfish. I'm looking for something in 6'. Thanks!
Awesome video! Very helpful and informative channel! You may want to try out Graphiteleader Corto, Finezza and Evergreen Salty Sensation 🤘🏻Heard they are pretty light and sensitive ultralight rods
I like your review on the reals! I like St.Croix rids its really all I buy to me the real means more to me than the real because it's all in feel... I do want to get a shimano Vanquish and the Exsence but in the Exsence I wish I could find it in 2500 or 1000 size and in the CI4 model. For you have any idea where I can get that?
Hi there great fisherman! ;) How do you rank the Daiwa ProRex XLT reel? Also, im curious if you have an opinion about the Daiwa ProRex Rod 3-14g / Daiwa Silvercreek 3-14g Thanks!
@@ifishcatfish I found one that's 4 pc for traveling etc. For 40 bucks. They normally retail for 60. I guess that's fair? I have the Okuma celilo and I don't really like it much.
don't know that rod but i never really fell in love with an okuma product. Reels are good value if u on a budget, but can't compare in refinement to japanese stuff. Rods are same. Good budget stuff, reliable, but not that refined. I would not use anything from them for Ultralight fishing
I picked up the F&S Tango last year. I didn't really use them, but this season, I threw a reel on the 7' medium and it is FANTASTIC for smallies. T700 toray carbon fiber, great top down reel seat,JDM joint, and titanium oxide guides that are holding up great to braid, all for $29.99. My Fenwick is feeling sad, but the Tango is so light(think Duckett Ghost light) I can cast all day and it is very sensitive. Great rod. The only caveat is that the camo pattern looks stupid.
Any chance you are going to get your hands on the new 2021 Daiwa Legalis? Thinking of picking one up in 2500 series and wanted to know if the improvements still make it an excellent reel. Thanks
Thank you. It’s blue so will need to find appropriately matched rod haha. What would you consider equally good reel in the Shimano line in the 2500 series?
Shimano doesn't have any decent ultralight reels under 200$. The Sahara is good reel but very heavy. I recommend sahara for people who fish for bass with heavier rods, so the reel will balance better. Daiwa has absolutely no competition in the budget ultralight market
A very helpful review--I particularly like that you clearly explain which reels are essentially the same design as you did saying that the Revos, Exceler and Fuego are essentially variations of the Legalis. Likewise, your rod advice is very detailed and useful. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge!
Very, very interesting videos posted on your TH-cam channel , great job well done! Respect for your time and money spend it to make these videos. If it”s possible, maybe you tell us and something about Ryobi fishing reels...Best regards!
I come from Bulgaria where back in the day Ryobi was the cream de la crop. But they went out of business and shut down their factories and they don't manufacture anything any more. Now they just buy reels from China and Korea and put their label on them and resell them. Sad. Exact same thing happened to DAM. I have no interest in chinese reels so it is unlikely i would purchase any Ryobi's
@@ifishcatfish Ha, ha, ha!!! It means that we are neighbours! I”m from Romania...Regarding Ryobi I heard 2 or 3 years ago that they sold the licence of fishing reels to a factory from China. Unfortunately, the same think it happened with Daiwa which is made now in Vietnam and Shimano in Malaysia. Who knows, maybe the quality of the reels will be maintained...By the way, in this evening I will distribute your video to a romanian FaceBook group, ”Spinning la clean”/”Spinning on chub”...Go on, Good lock and Merry Christmas to you!
Daiwa has factories for their low end reels in China and Malaysia, yes, but those are still Daiwa reels, designed and manufactured by Daiwa, only in another country. Still different than RYOBI and DAM, who don't design nothing, and have no engineers. Daiwa has their own R&D team and have their own proprietary technologies. RYOBI and DAM have none of that. And, of course, the high-end reels from Daiwa are still made in the Japanese factories. Bottom line is every reel you buy from Daiwa is unique, gears inside, the frame, the bearings are daiwa's own materials, and not shared with anyone. Daiwa, Shimano, and Okuma are the only brands who make their own reels, as far as i know. The rest is buying chinese and korean product and putting heir own label.
Ok, one last question. I ordered a Daiwa legalis 3000 instead of 2500 accidentally. 🤦 Is this a big deal? I'm using it for bobber fishing for crappie manly.
It is exactly the same reel. The only difference is line capacity. You have more line capacity, and for crappie u dont need it, but u can fill the bottom with cheap mono
Quick question on Legalis, is it 2500, or 2000 you recommend for larger spool? There is a slight jump in weight between the two, I'm looking at 2021 blue version, thanks!
@@ifishcatfish Thanks again! I went with 2000 size. Another topic, and I will look thru your videos, but do you have any recommendations on a travel case for this setup? Maybe a future video topic if you haven't covered...love all the great content man! 👍
I have a Trs801Glx Gloomis 6'8 ultralight. I'm looking to pair it with a shimano Vanquish. I see you have no 1000 size reels on your ultralight gear. Would the 2500 size Vanquish be a good fit for my gloomis ultralight?
It will balance well because it is so light. But might look a little weird on an ultralight rod. But with respect to fishing and balance it will be fine
Another mind blowingly honest and very educational video. By the way do you know which daiwa models that uses the same size gear? Is the 1000 and 2000 equipped with the same frame and gear for instance?
I prefer low gear ratio for everything that is freshwater. Only for saltwater i can see some applications where u would need speed. Low gear ratio gives more power and longer life of gears
Already bought too many reels just for review... I can't buy them all : ). No matter what you are doing, i recommend spending the extra money and get a Legalis LT
I need a quick tip, I'm setting up my first "nice" ultralight combo. I have a 6' 6" St. Croix Premier. Any suggestions on $150 reel and also size? I guess I assumed I'd get a 1000. Anything helps thanks!
6'6 st croix premier... this rod is neither short nor light. It may balance better with a 2500 tatula. Bigger reels cast farther because of bigger spool and because the gears are bigger they last longer before lose smoothness. In my honest opinion i would not even go for the tatula, because it is 6.3 gear ratio. I would go with Exceller LT, because it is 5.0 gear ratio and has less resistance than the tatula. It feels exactly like a tatula, even though it is not. If you really want tatula, i would buy one from japan, with the 5.0 gear ratio, but its not worth it. If you are getting it from amazon, please consider purchasing from my page: www.amazon.com/shop/i_fish
not if u got the legend elite panfish rod.... then it is worth spending the extra buck to save on reel weight, so u get better balance. But 1000 size tatula with that rod will end up being tip heavy rig
CI4+ is amazing reel, but i would not buy it now, and the new version will come out any moment. Same for exsense. It will be basically the FL, but with carbon body instead of aluminum
@@ifishcatfish thanks for the tip! Maybe get a good deal on the older models. Your Amazon page has the stradic fb model, so I'm assuming that's your choice. Was about to pull the trigger on a 2018 exsense but I'll wait if they're releasing a new one.
i have a couple of them and absolutely love them, but wouldn't buy them now... u can buy the new gen for same money in a few months. If u can get them for $150 then yeah - get them, but i have never seen that
Thank you! How can I stay in the know with release dates from Shimano and daiwa? I almost bought a theory 2506 for $280.00 but I'm looking at legalis too.
Theory is very old too. I wouldn't buy now. I would buy the Luvias 2500 which costs the same. The bigger models feel good. Just don't get the 1000 and 2000 sizes because of the resistance from the grease. Or wait for new shimano stradic. Shimano doesn't have a calendar. I just expect this based on their patterns. Sometimes u see leaks before the release, but the leaks are leaked intentionally in my opinion, and they come 1 month before the actual release..
I am new to ultralight fishng and want to know how far will a 5ft 6 with 4lb test cast a 1/64 ounce lure (like a trout magnet or a 1 inch gulp minnow.) I want it to be able to cast far so i can reach where the fish are because i live near ponds that ive heard dont get past 6ft usually 5ft deep. And the drop off is ok but i just want my little lure to reach out there in that 5ft hole or somewhere were the fish are at least. so yeah i just want to know if a 5ft 6 would cast out a 1/64 oz jig at least 15 feet or more.
it depends on the quality of the blank, but 15 feet is nothing. any rod should cast that with 4 lb line. But if u need distance and u fish from bank, u need longer rod
Shimano JDM rods is a different world. Not covered in this video. Price points will be much higher. I had a couple of 300$ majorcraft rods and plan on getting a shimano and some others, but frankly, nobody is watching those reviews. They may be interesting to few, but not many consider spending this kind of money. I am trying to focus on popular tackle because this is where the interest is. That said, i am trying to get vendors to mail me rods for a couple of weeks just for review.. then i would review them. But otherwise this tackle costs a lot and not many watch reviews, while the rods in this video are cheap and many are interested
I wonder how well would a Shimano Stella SR 2000s that I have pair with a G. Loomis Classic Trout Panfish SR841-2 IMX rod . I'm asking this because the rod is on sale for 200 $ and I don't have a rod for the stella .
Truly like your videos! Keep up the good work. I have one question; why use such large reels for ultralight fishing. Anything above 1000 is too large in my humble opinion. I'd don't have a any problems with the spool size thusfar on the 1000's)
@@ifishcatfish weight to rod ratio. There's reasonable priced and well weighted reels out there, I see that now! It's just that I don't have trouble with my 500/1000 (Sahara/Regal) reels either. And when going UL, the smaller the better for me.
Shimano Vanford or Vanquish 2500 will weigh less than any 1000 size reel from any other brand, except Daiwa. Also when u get into 7 foot rods... the tip gets heavy on lower priced rods, so they actually FEEL better with a 2500 reel. Also if the rod has big guides, like the one you showed me, a 2500 reel looks right. It's not cut and dry... just because a rod says Ultralight on the blank it doesn't mean that it must have a 1000 size reel. It doesn't even mean that the rod is ultralight. It doesn't even mean that there is a right or wrong decision. If u prefer small reels go small. If i use 1000 size reel i have to go to 4 pound braid. If you use monofilament or fluorocarbon the line gets all curly from the tiny spool and it really hurts casting and fishing. I like small reels too, but i hate small spools.
I have mine mounted right now on the 6’6 shimano sensilite UL. Feels absolutely perfect. The reel stays on that rod permanently. Look good together too
they are good, reliable reels. The only area where they lack is the gears. Shimano and Daiwa cut gears with much higher precision even in cheap reels and just feel smoother and more expensive in the hand
Shimano is definitely the better reel. Both are equally super smooth but shimano has less resistance... lighter rotation. However both reels are amazing and differences are small and I usually make my mind depending on what rod I will be pairing it with. If the rod has orange accents, as many rods do, I will go with the Presso for better color match. If the rod is all black, as many JDM rods are, I would go with the Shimano.
The Daiwa Presso has a better sounding drag, if u care about that. It is very vibrant, like a guitar string. I really enjoy listening to it. Not sure if u care about that. I have videos with both reels where the drag is very audible. Not sure if someone other than me cares about that : )
What's your take on using braid for float fishing if you need to get the longest cast possible? Or would you stick to mono or fluro? Specifically I'm targeting crappie with small jigs or hooks with a minnow. Your a huge help!
this is THE ONLY application I have left for braid. You just mentioned it. I hate braid for everything else. I hate it. I hate fishing with it. I don't want to know how good it is. But for float fishing it is the best just because of buoyancy. I don't care for casting distance. Even when i fish from the bank the crappie is close to bank. I just never had to cast far. However i like the buoyancy of braid because the line sits on the surface. If u use anything else, even mono, the line starts to sink a little after a few seconds. It varies a lot line by line, mono is usually ok as well, but braid is best. When u set the hook it makes a big difference if the line was on the surface or it was sunk. I like to jig my float too. U can't do that with sinking line. And with mono is not optimal. Braid is best for jigging a jig under a float for crappies. In my opinion.
@@ifishcatfish cool! I have to cast far while wading in the colder months so if I need to use braid to do so, I will. And I've actually heard alot of people saying braid sinks and mono floats. Actually researching some better floating braid as we speak.
Its not that light. It is metal. My problem is the chrome color though. I will wait until they release a JDM version that will be black and low gear ratio and will buy that one. I promise u there will be a jdm version
Hello Sir, I’m a new subscriber to your channel, becose of complete information about Ultra light equipment that you share. I search information that can help me to decide what is good for me. I looked for Shimano Poison Adrena 4-12 gr. with a Shimano Vanford 2000 or 2500. for perch fishing in city canals. Considering the high price of Adrena, is better to take a Shimano Zodias instade? And second question: Will be a big diference if Zodias is with 2 segment, or definitely 1 segment (regardig transport). I appreciate maximum your answer. Thank you so much again. And hope your answer will help many like me.
This guide is from 2019. Please check my guide for 2021 that I just released. I have had only 5 or 6 high end rods and I talk about them in my buying guide. But I cannot comment on rods I have never touched.. You need to find someone who has this rod.
I need one reel which can use mainly for light fishing (trout) and for pike and zander. I need recomendation what reel to buy in price range 30-60$. Okuma and daiwa are my favourities. Thanks
@@ifishcatfish what size ? I prefer smaller reels because I often travel and care it in my backpack. Also I use a small telescopic rod 2 meters long, 10-40 grams. I know that tele rods are not so good for spinning but it is practical for me. Also, a heavier reel is not a problem, I prefer durability.
2500 is perfect, whatever reel you chose. Sahara is definitely the more durable reel, both the frame and gears are stronger. Check the weights of the reels online, Sahara is better but weighs 40 grams more.
Fuego is exceler with Magseal. No point for freshwater spending money for magseal. Exceler is easy to clean and lube at home. Fuego is not. I dont recommend Fuego for any water, just because there is no point to this reel, even thought mechanically its great. But u spend extra money to buy something that will be a problem later
I use only TSI 321 for bearings - any bearings. For drag disks i have a couple. For gears i have more - that depends on what kind of reel u have and how much resistance u can tolerate. Heavier grease protects more but i don't like the resistance in smaller reels. I don't have video because there is a million experts there and everyone has their own opinion and its impossible to prove one grease is better than other anyway
i_fish ya my president 20 is sounding off. A little nervous because I’m a novice. I’ll study up a bit. Are you able to add that lube to your amazon shop? Rather order threw you if possible then just amazon.
For casting the longest under a float with small jigs, what's your ideal set up? I'm usually wading for crappie late/early in the year. Looking for the best type of line, reel brand and model with a tall spool (I believe this helps line come off easier for farther casts), and rod brand and model/length.
7'6 Daiwa Presso 2 piece paired with Legalis LT 2500D or the new Regal LT 2000. Legalis reels are lighter and the 2500 balances best. Regal LT is heavier and u have to go to the smaller size. Main line would be daiwa jbraid 8 lb, and leader would be some fluorocarbon 4 lb. U can go lighter in the leader if u know u will catch ONLY crappie, but i get bass and channel catfish and carp (check my videos) and i enjoy landing those accidental fish, so I stick to 4 lb leader. When i jig i go down to 2-3 pound line because carp and catfish will rarely chase a moving jig. But if the jig is suspended under a float they will eat it.
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Absolutely, I was going to check out your vid on that soon. I often go to braid while crappie fishing because of the same reason, was just about to mention that! I hook big bass or pickerel and with mono I used to use I'd get break offs and that's annoying! I want to land every fish no matter what.
I’m watching this in 2022 so everything went up so I’m stilll trying to find a good combo and I just bought one of Amazon which was the Diawa QR750 which I don’t like because bad quality and has a jiggle to it when I jig it so ima return it. I also bought a celio rod and the back end is not very well fit for me so ima probably just return it so I’m looking for the best combo for jogging for some trout around 100 to 125 maybe a bit more thanks
@@ifishcatfish Damn. Haven’t heard anything about the guides honestly but at the same time I’ve never loss a guide before too. That’s weird. But thanks for your opinion.
@@ifishcatfish I mean I’d expect it to be cheap but durable enough for like pan fish etc. It’s really just a 50 dollar rod too. Interesting though. I’m have to do more research on it then. Thank you very much!
no. I was trying to get them to send me one for review. I dont want to buy that rod as i have too many already and really dont need it. But people asked me for review several times..
are you talking about ultralight fishing? I don't know much about bass fishing... I don't recommend Ugly Stick for anything Ultralight. Horrible balance, very heavy solid tip that completely kills any kind of sensitivity. All of their models are catfish rods if u ask me. For treble hooks you want regular action, not fast. The Presso is the best, also there is an amazing Okuma rod that i reviewed but forgot its name. Open my playlist with rod reviews and scroll and search for okuma. Its probably the best thing under $100 for treble hooks, assuming u talk about utralight fishing
@@ifishcatfishfor smallmouth with ultra light lures . I was looking at ugly stik elite 7 ft ultra light for treble hook lures only . But looks like presso is lighter . So legalis 2500 for the presso or 1000 ?
The reels in this video are the very best at their price points. No exceptions. Everything else at the same price point will be inferior. I don't mean to be arrogant but this is my opinion and u can take it with a grain of salt. I have not tried that kastking reel but knowing where it comes from it will have the same problem as all other NON Japanese reels - no sophistication in the contact of the gears. Nothing else feels like these reels. I spend thousands of dollars on reels just for these reviews. U can chose to believe me or go guy and try yourself.
i_fish thanks I watch the same video like 5 times really helped narrow it down to diawa and shimano rod. Only things is if I want 2 piece or 1 , traveling or just having it in the car and all purpose rod. Vary helpful review I must say.
@@rspencer2511 Amazon, EBay. Sometimes you can find great deals thru independent sellers as well. Check online. I've seen the Revros LT for extra cheap.
I know the larger spools reduce the coils in the line but for me spooling a reel that size with 2# line just seems off. too much line fits on the spool.
right. I know what u mean. Walmart has a monofilament line called Zebco Omniflex. It costs like $1.50 for a 1000 yard spool of 6 pound like. I use it to fill up the spools and then just put 100 yards of quality line on top.
@@ifishcatfish also if you have not had an opportunity to try Leland lures trout Slayer series ultralight rod it is hands down my fav ul rod at $50. it's extremely light and has American tackle aerowave guides.
Good video. As long as I can have a reel under 185 grams or so I’m OK with it. I have tuned all my Luvias and am more than happy with them. The Presso Limited is an outstanding reel and if I could get another at the sale price I would do so but I’m not sure at the full price it is worth that over the Luvias. I have the 2013 Certate which is tuned also but it is not as good as the 2015 Luvias reels. The Shimano Twin Power is a very good reel at the price point and I could see myself maybe getting another one. I am going to get an Exist and a Vanquish in the not too distant future. The reason I want them is as you said in one of your rod videos. How do we know if we don’t try that lightest rod.....or reel......whatever the case is. The one thing I do know in buying both of those reels I will not be disappointed. The Luvias is over due for a refresh and it should not be long before a new one comes out. Like you stated....one can’t purchase all the rods and reels out there......but at my age I’m going to go out swinging.......LOL. Keep up the good work.
Careful, Randy, if u buy one vanquish u will buy more. I myself am looking for some kind of deals in that reel to buy more. Luvias is a great reel but compared to vanquish it feels like a bass reel. I tried the new exist several times already. Amazing reel no doubt. Feels like a piece of swiss jewelry. But it has more resistance than the vanquish. Nothing is as finesse as the vanquish.
I got an email notification that u replied to my last video, but when i click on reply, i can't find your comment. I dont know why youtube is deleting comments without asking me. Extremely annoying. I have made you approved user now, hopefully won't happen again. Just a heads up. I would hate it if u think i deleted your comment or something. But yeah, i have to reply to this one instead. And I agree on JDM jig heads. I think it doesn't matter which is the sharpest because they all penetrate fish flesh with zero pressure.
@@ifishcatfish have you tried the regal? might have even less resistance than a legalis, it spins by it self when held up slowly rotating it(not handle)... heck might even less resistance than vanquish.. can vanquish turn by it self? without turning the handle.
dont know what lrf is. Fuego is ok for saltwater but i prefer the Nasci. Better gears and stronger frame. A little heavier but for saltwater i think Nasci is better
@@ifishcatfish thank you for the quick response, lrf stands for light rock fishing so basically ultralight fishing from the coast. I was looking at a Grey's gr50+ 2-12g lure rod do you know anything about it. with such a light rod would you recommend the daiwa fuego Thank you Zi
@@ifishcatfish Yes that's the brand! As said, they don't make the ligttec spin anymore unfortunately. I recently sold mine, which I now regret! Here's a little article about it: www.ukmatchangler.com/specialist-pages/reviews/rods/sonik-sports-lighttec-spin-1-8-grams.php There is a store close to where I live that still has a 7 foot laying around....
@@ifishcatfish oh, and I just say your musky on a trout magnet catch, congratulations! Here in the Netherlands I catch a lot of pike and zander on my ultralights as well, awesome fights! Usually I fish with fluoro leader as well but if there is too much pike around and losing too much gear i switch to thin wolfram or titanium leaders.
i wouldn't lose sleep over this rod, if i were you. This brand doesn't make rods or blanks or any other components. They just submit orders to chinese companies and they manufacture them with the Sonik label. Same about their reels. It doesn't mean its a bad rod or bad reel - they are usually alright, and especially from a value perspective. But in terms of top of the line quality - there is zero chance that brand will have anything special, i promise you that. If you want a nice ultralight, just save some money, and i promise you the top end tackle today is really beyond imagination.
great review as always, but it just sucks how many specific recommendations on rods/reels dont carry over to products available in europe, and the ones we do have here are simply 20-40% more expensive. legalis is 70 euros for example. on top of that there are many reels here that you cant even find reviews for that are on this level from people like you that do in depth reviews, so you really dont have much to work with most of the time, which has been a pain in the ass since i got into fishing. ive managed to still find some of the models people swear by, and brand recommendation and other info that helps assessing product quality on your own has been helpful, but its just way harder.
Get the st croix trout rod. 7 ft light. It’s insane best trout rod I’ve ever had... better than loomis. Just buy it and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Gotta be the 7 ft light power.
Light... hmm.. I was going to say i tried the Ultra Light many times in the store and hated it every time. Very stiff first half and at the same time very soft and wobbly tip. Horrible combination. But the Light may have better tip. Will check the Light next time. Still don't have high hopes as that rod has cheap all steel guides and because of that will never feel too good
Thank you sir for all the information, but I'm going to the other side of the spectrum and going to buy a reel for halibut. You wouldn't know anything about the bigger reels? Looking at the penn squall lever drag two speed. Thanks again for the information and I always enjoy your videos.
I really like the shimano tekota. They have many sizes and versions, some with line counter if u trol. But i dont know ur budget. In big saltwater reels daiwa and shimano have very tough competition, unlike freshwater spinning reels. Some really good american brands out there. I have only used the tekota on one of my buddies and that thing is solid as a tank and smooth as butter under load
@@hustonwitt9425 I can second the Tekota. I have several used for salmon on Lake Michigan. 10 years and no maintenance or failures. Hundreds of Kings and other Salmonids!
I bought the "Quantum® Bill Dance Special Edition Spinning Rod and Reel Comb10: and I love i beenbcatching a lot of fish with it mainly trout.. I Would like to see what you think about it 🤔😁😁
Was not impressed by the st croix pan fish rod. I didn't like the moderate action. I do absolutely love the trout series rod. Specifically the 5'4" ultralight
I dont think a human can make a difference. Both super smooth. Sahara is stronger though, even though equally smooth, but also Sahara is heavier. If you need size 1000 or 2000, get Exceller, if you want bigger sizes, you can go with Sahara
Picked up 2 Presso 7' and 2 Exceler 2500 high speed. Just waiting for the ice to leave the lakes and I will be chasing the panfish! Feels wonderful in the hand. Drag is super smooth. Rods are very, very light.
Great over view of options Victor. This gave me idea's for that Legatis Lt 2500. Thanks for sharing.
I’ve been watching this video at least once a day for the last month and I’m still having a hard time deciding what to buy for my next ultra light rig!
Thanks for your knowledge and perspective on each reel and rod!
i got several similar comments below.. I want to make a 2020 version of the same video but not much has changed.. There are no new reels except on very high end..
What’s your best overall so far I was thinking about st croix panfish series u know any better
@@MrSkittles618 same here... But any rod. whether it's a dollar or it's a $300 it's gonna catch you fish.. Someone using $500 rod and me using Shakespeare micro for example The fish don't see don't care how nice you are looking or anything like that LMao We should do it I mean he should do Take someone along with you cheapest rod and you a expensive stuff see wasup.. same rig... 🤔
Nice overview of the reels. I have the Legalis LT and am super happy with it!
Does it have a good drag?
I learned a ton watching this. Thank you.
thanks for taking the time to drop a line!
I think I have watched this video 15 times LoL. I got super lucky yesterday! I've been trying to find that Shakespeare rod all week and yesterday I went to Walmart. The fishing section was cleared like it had been, but they had one Shakespeare 7ft Micro light rod! I absolutely love it! Right now I just have a cheap plastic reel on it. I just ordered the Legalis 2500D with the 5:3:1 gear ratio. I hope that's the one your talking about. I trust your opinion on ultra light rods and reels. Thank you!
i have this exact combo on my boat all the time. Don't even take it off the boat. U can do anything from bluegill and crappie to bass and walleye, and even some small catfish that will bite my crappie lures from time to time. The balance is perfect between that rod and that reel. I even think they look good together, even though neither is very good looking by itself. But gray and black is just a good look.
Thanks for the overview. I had already watched all of the individual reviews so I sort of already knew what was coming. I do have to say that the 2500 size on the LT reels are plenty light enough for ultra light fishing as you say. I'm testing their new 2500 LT Emcast bite and run right now. It's pretty awesome, but I haven't caught enough fish with it for a full review yet.
always wanted to get this reel. looking forward to ur review!
The Emcast LOOKS incredible... I'm already getting buyers remorse... ;)
@@Javaslinger7730 I used mine several times this fall and it seems great, but I haven't hooked into any good fish with it yet to get a feel for how it handles them. Now it's hardwater season so I'll have to wait for spring unless I try for bigger fish through the ice. I love the way it looks and feels. I'm having a hard time matching it up to rod, though. The 2500 is so light for a bait runner that it doesn't balance well with my 7' rods, which is what I usually use the bait runners on. I might have to get a higher end rod that is both light and strong to match it with for next year...maybe a St. Croix Mojo Cat or something along those lines. The only thing I wish it had was a screw in handle. There's nothing wrong with the one it has, but I like the screw in ones better.
I have watched this whole video TWICE - and I'm not even in the market for any new gear right now. Awesome, awesome, awesome....
Thank you, Sir Thomas!
I just finished watching it the first time and am already going back to review parts of it. Lots of good info!
I always enjoy coming back to watch this video.
i need to do a 2020 version, after the Vanford
I just traded for a jdm model excense and it has a 5.3 gear ratio. I should get it in on Tuesday and can’t wait. I can’t wait to get a vanford as well.
I love my vanquish 19 btw, I won here in a fishing raffle for $60 lol
the CI4+? Or MG?
Great video, I like your channel. I just have a comment about your recommendation not to use high ratio reel, like 6:2:1 ratio. High ratio is good if you are spinning, because sometimes you might need that extra fast movement of the lure in the water if you want the fish to react and a higher ratio reel serves that purpose. So, the high ratio is to be considered for specific fish and specific situations and not to be completely trashed. That's my opinion. I wanted to thank you for your very informative and thoughtful reviews.
There is no freshwater fishing where u need more than 5 gear ratio. Only in saltwater there is some fishing where u need to burn it real fast, but even there you do just fine with 5. I never said that it's wrong though, because it is a personal preference. If you want more resistance and faster retrieve speed then high gear ratio is for you. I pay a lot of money to get the reels with the smallest resistance in the world, and it would be just stupid for me to just give it up by using high gear ratio.Vanquish has lower resistance than Vanford if both reels have same gear ratio. But a high gear ratio Vanquish will have SIGNIFICANTLY (20% more) higher resistance than the cheaper Vanford, if the Vanford has low gear ratio. Then its kind of stupid to spend extra 200$ on Vanquish, right?
This was an excellent review. Thank you.
This is the old one. I released a new version this december. Although... not many changes from this video, but there are some changes in the mid price range
Any love for the BG 1500 for ultralight application. Been running it with 4lb test in both salt and freshwater and has performed well and held up well. Yes, heavier than the LT but i feel it can take punishment of getting wet and being knocked around in kayak and when shore fishing better
no love for BG for ultralight fishing. Yes, it can take punisment - that's the purpose of this reel. If u need a reel to punish during your trips then its a right because Legalis LT definitely cannot take punishment. However punishment is not a dimension that I ever consider during Ultrlight fishing. I need finesse and sensitivity, and low inertia so u can work a micro jig better. In that respect Legalis LT is much better and it is also cheaper, so i cannot recommend BG for ultralight fishing,
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I agree with you on the legalistic, Great reel. Where might I find one for $50, I have never seen one for less than $69. Great Review, thanks
They are $50, even less on ebay and amazon
Very detailed and helpful video. Just a quick question, what is the difference between the legalis and the theory? Is the theory worth the extra $200? If so, why? I have only fished using $70 equipment and am trying to decide if going up a bit is worth it. I know it can’t help me catch more fish, but what makes it worth it? Thanks so much. Currently using the daiwa legalis lt and the presso.
1. on the difference between Legalis and Theory - i believe absolutely every part is different. The gears are machine cut aluminum vs cast zinc alloy (much better) , the frame is carbon vs plastic (much more rigid, less flex), Drag is somehow much better even though it looks similar, it has more bearings and higher quality bearings, it has seals everywhere, including magnetic oil seal on the main shaft, the roller bearing is better, even the god dam handle is better and lighter. So yeah, there are some differences.
2. Is it worth it . It is impossible to answer this question for other people since Value is 100% subjective. For me it is worth it, given my income, my other fishing tackle, my type of fishing, my personal preferences in life and many other things. For it may not be worth it as your entire life is different than mine. I don't think anyone needs a more than a Legalis for ultralight fishing. You will not catch more fish with a Theory. It is spending money for pleasure. It looks awesome, sounds awesome, feels awesome, but doesn't catch more fish
You really need to try the Kuying Teton rods!! They are quality rods made in china which can be purchased through aliexpress and have a huge following, especially internationally. I wanted a budget BFS (Ultralight baitcasting setup) and was recommended this rod. They are well respected in the BFS community and are made out of all FUJI components. They also have the ribbed finish like the Daiwa Presso and other JDM rods. My particular model is the TTC662L which is a 2-piece 6'6" light powered casting rod, but they also have a spinning version. This is the rod that I would recommend as I have actual experience with it, albeit only in the casting setup and not spinning. The spinning rod only weighs 81 grams, but unfortunately I believe they are currently out of stock. They also have a 6'4" 2-piece spinning rod in Ultralight power and it only weighs 61 grams! Sadly, I don't have experience with it and am not sure of the characteristics of it. I can tell you that the rod I have is not a noodle at all and I love it
I have several chinese ultralights. Tsurinoya, some dragon and forgot what the other one was. I can't buy them all, there is too many of them and they are all the same. To me all of the rods on aliexpress feel the same. They are ok but there is nothing special about them. One day i will make a review of all my chinese rods at once.
@@ifishcatfish Ah I see. Looking forward to it!
Totally agree with you that St. Croix panfish rod is not designed for jigging and casting 1/64 ounce lures.
You may like to try TFO trout and panfish rod. Unlike most Japanese rods, the blank bends entirely. Like it for casting ultra light lures.
Looks sexy. I check it out for sure. I wonder if they will send me one for review
Victors tackle shop....the 2500 size is my favorite for the Inshore waters here in Florida...It holds plenty of 10 lb. mono....Old School!!
All those reels were 2500 except one :)
This was a great video. A lot of great info in this. I"ve been trying to find a Presso but they're all out of stock. I do have that same micro series rod & Legalis reel though. It's really only been in the last year that I've started fishing for smaller species. It's mainly catfish & carp for me, I'm a hobby dough bait maker so it kinda goes with that well. I wanted to ask if you run the factory felt drag washers in your Legalis reels? If so, you might want to think about trying the carbontex washers. They're 8$ and difference is night & day in terms of drag smoothnes and so much more fun with any smaller species. Anyway, great video sir....
It used to be only carp and catfish for me too, but slowly ultralight fishing took over. Be careful - its very addictive. Every rod i recommend becomes out of stock hehe : )
I have carbontex washers in all of my carp reels, but i don't like carbon in the 1000 size reels. Feels too rough. I use only felt, and i oil it with the factory daiwa felt oil. Even for 2500 i still prefer felt over carbon. Only for carp and catfish i prefer carbon
@@ifishcatfish Addictive is an understatement my friend....You have great content, keep it coming...
Thanks Victor. Watching now. Will pick up the Daiwa Legalis 2500D as recommended
this is the 2019 versioni. I made another video last year. There are a few updates in the segment. Also u dont need 2500 size reel on those rods..
I live in Texas and I like to catch any kind of fish. My favorites used to be stocked rainbow trout (6 to 12 inches) and bass. My favorite bass techniques are weightless worms and flukes. Is there a combo that would work well for both, or should they be separate? I need 2 piece rods to transport and can't spend much on fishing at the moment. Thank you.
The fenwick HMX is an amazing rod and amazing value. Get the 7’ ML. However it will be a bit much for trout. The best rod for trout i know is the 6’6 daiwa presso, but that will be too soft for bass. As for reel, daiwa legalis LT 2500 can work for both.
Jim Scott i can tell u havent watched the whole video, and i dont blane u coz its too long. But if u want to save money watch the whole thing. I go over the reasons why i recomment ine over the other.
Thank you for the reply, my upgrades in the 80's were Shimanos, X2000 and custom X2500 on Shakespeare Intrepid 6'6" mediums. Recently I bought a 7' medium Elite Ugly Stick combo. My typical bass catches are 3/4 - 1.5 pounds, a few 2 - 4 pounds, and one 5+ pounder. Typically fishing open bank areas of ponds. That's being said, I was thinking maybe one of the rods good for jigging would be good for weightless worms, just uncertain whether it would have enough stiffness for 3/0 or 4/0 worm hook hooksets. Also not sure if stiff enough for that was too stiff for playing trout. Happy Thanksgiving.
I have considered the Microlite, Fenwick Eagles, Hmx's, Hmg' s and others. Just not sure what a sensitive today is and the difference it makes. I will say my rods my see travel abuse. Is there anything to salvage or should I start anew. Thank you.
Get the HMX 7' ML for bass. Maybe M if u want stiffer, not not more than that.
then get the shakespeare micro light 7' L for trout. The daiwa presso is a very fragile rod, will not take much transportation abuse.
Great video I learned a lot
thanks for not being lazy and dropping a comment : )
Just getting around to watching this again. Totally agree on the legalis for freshwater, but I do like the fuego 3000 on a 7’ medium mojo inshore - that’s light saltwater gear for topwater stripers
Have any experience with the st croix triumph 6, 6’6” light (not UL).? The current model are currently on sale now
No. I have reviewed the Eyecon Light, and just recently I reviewed the Panfish Legend Elite. Love both
@@ifishcatfish will check those out. Thanks very much
Great reviews....as always! I think you would really like the Leland Lures Trout Slayer Series rod..$49.95. It’s ultra light AND fantastic for jigging!
I asked them to send me one... they send me a pack of trout magnets. I can't buy any more rods right now..
I have the Leland Lures Trout rod, and it's an excellent all-rounder rod for the price.
Watched this video again, can't make up my mind between Daiwa presso, fenwick hmx, or fenwick hmg. What would you recommend ? I will be going for trout, kokannee with small spoons and spinners. Maybe jigging under a float for crappies.
I only like the HMX of all the Fenwick rods. I know they have some more expensive ones and some better looking ones, but this is the only one that feels right.
Then the HMX and the Presso are NOT alternatives. Presso is the perfect float and spoon and spinner rod. HMX is very sharp and more of a jigging rod. You probably need both. They are not expensive - TREAT YOURSELF
@@ifishcatfish Hey thanks, I will!
I just picked up an Exceller LT 2500D off Amazon and it came missing the dust cap,super tight, clearly had been opened/returned.... I think someone exchanged an Ebay knockoff... Anyway, hoping the replacement is a sick buttery smooth as expected
some people are nasty. Sorry to hear that. Amazon would never sell knockoffs but I think you guessed exactly what happened.
The reel will be super smooth, u will be amazed. Nothing under 200 is smoother.
I see a comment from you about daiwa emcast but when i click 'reply' it can't find it. Did u delete that comment? Just curious because i have a lot of disappearing comments lately and it bothers me because i try to reply to everyone and some of them I just can't find.
When it comes to vanquish, excense, stradic, stradic fl, theory, and legalis which specific models do you like the most? I'm ordering all reels from Japan if available. I know anything with an "h" or "hg" in model number is for high gear and it's not recommended. Also "s" or "m" for shimano is for small and medium spool, I like the idea of a larger spool so I'm still researching on spool size.
I buy the ones with no letters. Those are the low gear ratio models. I buy low gear ratio models of all reels - spinning and baitcasting, finess and heavy duty bottom fishing - always low gear ratio.
Shimano doesn't have an ABS spool like daiwa. Even daiwa doesn't make reels with the ABS spool any more. Shimano makes what they call long stroke but that's no nearly as good.
Shallow spool is good for ultralight fishing only. No need to put filler line on bottom.. It also has more space for drag washers but they use the same drag washers anyway. Overall shallow spool is not something i care much about. If they have it, i will get it, but if they don't, i don't care. It's not like low gear ratio. If the reel ONLY comes with high gear ratio, i wont even buy the reel
@@ifishcatfish I barely see any reels without a letter at the end of the model name. But sounds like as long as it's low gear ratio it's good to go for you. What do you consider high gear ratio?
do you think the shakespeare 7' light would get decent distance on an 1/8oz jig? Or do you have something on the table you'd recommend more (fishing for trout)
1/8 is heavy. Everything I own will cast 1/8 a mile. Yes, this rod would be excellent for that, but so would any other Ultralight. Even some Light power rods can handle that.
@@ifishcatfish wow you really do reply comments and FAST. Appreciate what you're doing; There's so much information I need to digest. Thank you!
I am a salt water fisherman from Long Island, Montauk and Florida, living in Quebec and am getting into ultralight fishing as we can't go to the US now. I bought a Stradic FL 1000 and Nasci 1000 for my son or guest. They both feel great, Stradic a bit more powerful. I want something that works for salt water if we ever get back to the states.Is the Stradic overkill for an ultralight????
Stradic FL and Nasci are the two best saltwater reels on the market because they are sealed and have heavy strong frame. People usually buy them in the 3000-4000 sizes for Inshore fishing. Haven't heard anyone buy them in 1000 size for Ultralight, because u can buy the lighter versions and people prefer light for ultralight.
That said, they are still great reels for UL fishing, when in 1000 size. If you have an UL rod under 200$, chances are these reels will balance just fine. On high end Japanese rods they will feel a little heavy.
Is it 'overkill' of what? Fighting the fish? All reels are overkill for that, even the cheapest walmart reel is overkill. I buy nice reels for the pleasure of using them. Overkill would be me having way too much pleasure. That hasn't happened to me. If FL is overkill, what am I supposed to say about my Vanquish, Luvias, Presso LTD.. :) ?? Those must be superoverhyperkill!
So enjoy your reels and don't feel guilty about it.
@@ifishcatfish I agree, we spend more time casting than catching!!! I do like a fine piece of equipment for any sport or hobby I do.
The Stradic 1000 should be fun with 4lb line in the surf in Montauk with the small strippers and blues during the summer instead of hauling them in with 30lb on my Penn Conflict 5000 and 10 ft surf rod.
I also picked up a Ballistic 3000 LT and Nasci 3000 for my 2 St Croix Tidemaster 7' travel rods in light and medium which I will use for larger freshwater fish and will be great for Montauk. Just got the Ballistic yesterday and am very impressed overall and got a very good deal to make it that much sweeter.
Great job on the videos and your chat page!!!!
Just got my Daiwa luvias 1003
that I got from amazon .. Not a bad price.. 250..I paired it up on Major craft fine tail new model. 6'3.... so light.... ..it beats my old light setup on St. Croix pan fish edition paired on daiwa bg 1000... ..JDM is so addicting ... line was veritas 2.1
Welcome to the JDM madness!!! I have so many 1025, 1003 and 1000S models...People would have me locked up...
keep in mind Theory is built on same Luvias platform and its lighter. If only it was cheaper..
Have you ever tried any rapala rods. Some of my favorite ultra light rods are my rapala xtreme HM45 6'6".
I have four of those rods. Unfortunately they are discontinued.
They are not wobbly at all and very sensitive for the money.
I have two other rapala rods.
7' light and 6'6" light action. Both of those are great as well.
I may try to order some rapala rods from overseas to try since they dont sale them here in the USA anymore.
no, i havent. They are probably good. Would love to try them - you should send me a 6'6 : )
I would but shipping is so expensive on rods. Usually around $30 to ship a rod anywhere in the US
its not that bad if its a 2 piece. I shipped one for 18
Great informative video. Which of the rods would you reccomend for long distance casting with 1/32 ounce jigs that's 7 feet or less? My budget is about $120 for the rod.
What line? If u use thin line, they all cast about the same. If u use 4 pound or more, watch the guides. Daiwa Presso has good guides. Fenwick HMX. The new B&M panfish rod is excellent for casting small jigs, if u use thin line..
@@ifishcatfish I normally use 2 or 4 lb trilene xl. I have also been thinking about that BnM rod ever since I saw Troutmagnetman's review on it. The current rod I use is a Bass Pro Microlite 5'6" ultralight. Would the extra foot really matter with casting distance?
It matters, but not night and day difference. The trilene line is thicker than japanese lines. If u go with the BNM rod u will have to stick with the 2 lb for sure. 4 lb trilene is really 6 lb diameter
@@ifishcatfish I might just buy the BNM and a presso. Which presso model would you reccomend?
@@nickflores5162 6’6, if u can find it
Looking to take a step up from the my Stradic Ci4+ and Biomaster . At the moment it looks like Presso ltd vs Vanquish for me, unless there is another Daiwa to consider at that roughly that price point. Vanquish and Presso are similarly priced. Which should I get?
Vanquish is the best.
@@ifishcatfish Thanks ! I figured as much. I guess I'll keep my eyes open for any sales on the Presso ltd. Do want that reel also. Looking forward to catching trout with some fresh jdm gear. The local lake has been icefree since early march, so the trout is really feisty this year, even the sub 200 gram ones.
If I am fishing 2 lb test line on a 7'.6" ultralight rod, do you recommend the daiwa legalis LT 2500 or 1000? Is the 2500 model too big for 2 lb test? I like to finesse fish for trout and only use 2 lb test.
Thats a good question. As far a balance is concerned, your rig will definitely feel better with the 2500 size. Will feel more balanced and will cast farther with the bigger spool. But i have never put so thin of a line on my 2500 size reel. They are usually my white bass reels and i have 4 pound line on them and it works great with 4 lb. But if the line is too thin it will not reach the top and bottom of the spool, and will ruin your line lay. I don't know what to tell you
@@ifishcatfish so if I put 4 lb line on it, the 2500 will be perfect?
yes, i have one with 4 lb line and line lay is great
It's been some time since this video but THANK YOU. It was very helpful and I learned a lot. Unfortunately I have a Shimano Sahara 1000 so my heart broke a little when you said it's too heavy 😅 but I'm trying to figure out what to put this reel on since that's what I'm working with. Any ideas? I was thinking a St Croix Triumph with light power or a TFO trout and panfish. I'm looking for something in 6'. Thanks!
TFO trout and panfish is very good. But i have a newer video about rod buying guide
@@ifishcatfish I'll watch it now. Just discovered your channel a few days ago and it's a treasure trove for ultralight fishing. Much appreciated!
@@byrde4329 likewise
Wew! I just hope that kind of rods are available here in SEA, specially in Philippines
You can buy the Chinese rods from AliExpress - Tsurinoya rods are similar in price and quality.
Awesome video! Very helpful and informative channel! You may want to try out Graphiteleader Corto, Finezza and Evergreen Salty Sensation 🤘🏻Heard they are pretty light and sensitive ultralight rods
but they are old now. I got the new Belezza they released. You can find the vidos with that rod from a few weeks ago
@@ifishcatfish nice nice Belezza is nice! Salty sensation have their new Superior series out not long ago! Maybe you would like to give it go 😁
I like your review on the reals! I like St.Croix rids its really all I buy to me the real means more to me than the real because it's all in feel... I do want to get a shimano Vanquish and the Exsence but in the Exsence I wish I could find it in 2500 or 1000 size and in the CI4 model. For you have any idea where I can get that?
Digitaka.com
Hi there great fisherman! ;) How do you rank the Daiwa ProRex XLT reel? Also, im curious if you have an opinion about the Daiwa ProRex Rod 3-14g / Daiwa Silvercreek 3-14g Thanks!
don't know anything about this reel or this rod... Probably only on European market..
Great video...Thanks for sharing
What do you think about the Shimano Ultegra?
the new one? I havent seen it yet. I have one ordered but who knows when it will get here
@@ifishcatfish The Shimano Ultegra 2500FB. I would like to hear your opinion on it. THANKS 4 all the great videos!
Have you used the Field & stream rods? I plan on getting one. But I need more info on them.
sorry, don't own any. Unless you find them on some serious discount i think there are safer, proven alternatives.
@@ifishcatfish I found one that's 4 pc for traveling etc. For 40 bucks. They normally retail for 60. I guess that's fair? I have the Okuma celilo and I don't really like it much.
don't know that rod but i never really fell in love with an okuma product. Reels are good value if u on a budget, but can't compare in refinement to japanese stuff. Rods are same. Good budget stuff, reliable, but not that refined. I would not use anything from them for Ultralight fishing
I picked up the F&S Tango last year. I didn't really use them, but this season, I threw a reel on the 7' medium and it is FANTASTIC for smallies. T700 toray carbon fiber, great top down reel seat,JDM joint, and titanium oxide guides that are holding up great to braid, all for $29.99. My Fenwick is feeling sad, but the Tango is so light(think Duckett Ghost light) I can cast all day and it is very sensitive. Great rod. The only caveat is that the camo pattern looks stupid.
I saw an ultra light telescopic rod in web. Just wonder which is better 2 pcs or telescopic or 1pcs for ultra light rod?
Any chance you are going to get your hands on the new 2021 Daiwa Legalis? Thinking of picking one up in 2500 series and wanted to know if the improvements still make it an excellent reel. Thanks
i will review them, but don't know when. I can promise you it is safe to buy the new Legalis though. It will be probably just a little bit better
Thank you. It’s blue so will need to find appropriately matched rod haha.
What would you consider equally good reel in the Shimano line in the 2500 series?
Shimano doesn't have any decent ultralight reels under 200$. The Sahara is good reel but very heavy. I recommend sahara for people who fish for bass with heavier rods, so the reel will balance better. Daiwa has absolutely no competition in the budget ultralight market
A very helpful review--I particularly like that you clearly explain which reels are essentially the same design as you did saying that the Revos, Exceler and Fuego are essentially variations of the Legalis. Likewise, your rod advice is very detailed and useful. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge!
thanks for taking the time to drop a line. I wish more people did. I think they would if they knew what a difference it makes.
@@ifishcatfish I sure appreciate that you go in-depth in your reviews!
I was looking at the legalis and the regal. Any opinion on the regal in comparison?
i have a whole video on that comparison. not that old
Very, very interesting videos posted on your TH-cam channel , great job well done! Respect for your time and money spend it to make these videos. If it”s possible, maybe you tell us and something about Ryobi fishing reels...Best regards!
I come from Bulgaria where back in the day Ryobi was the cream de la crop. But they went out of business and shut down their factories and they don't manufacture anything any more. Now they just buy reels from China and Korea and put their label on them and resell them. Sad. Exact same thing happened to DAM. I have no interest in chinese reels so it is unlikely i would purchase any Ryobi's
@@ifishcatfish Ha, ha, ha!!! It means that we are neighbours! I”m from Romania...Regarding Ryobi I heard 2 or 3 years ago that they sold the licence of fishing reels to a factory from China. Unfortunately, the same think it happened with Daiwa which is made now in Vietnam and Shimano in Malaysia. Who knows, maybe the quality of the reels will be
maintained...By the way, in this evening
I will distribute your video to a romanian FaceBook group, ”Spinning la clean”/”Spinning on chub”...Go on, Good lock and Merry Christmas to you!
Daiwa has factories for their low end reels in China and Malaysia, yes, but those are still Daiwa reels, designed and manufactured by Daiwa, only in another country. Still different than RYOBI and DAM, who don't design nothing, and have no engineers. Daiwa has their own R&D team and have their own proprietary technologies. RYOBI and DAM have none of that. And, of course, the high-end reels from Daiwa are still made in the Japanese factories. Bottom line is every reel you buy from Daiwa is unique, gears inside, the frame, the bearings are daiwa's own materials, and not shared with anyone. Daiwa, Shimano, and Okuma are the only brands who make their own reels, as far as i know. The rest is buying chinese and korean product and putting heir own label.
how about the 500 size sedona/sahara/nasci/vanford? true unltralight reels right? also does daiwa have any good 500 size reels?
Ok, one last question. I ordered a Daiwa legalis 3000 instead of 2500 accidentally. 🤦 Is this a big deal? I'm using it for bobber fishing for crappie manly.
It is exactly the same reel. The only difference is line capacity. You have more line capacity, and for crappie u dont need it, but u can fill the bottom with cheap mono
Quick question on Legalis, is it 2500, or 2000 you recommend for larger spool? There is a slight jump in weight between the two, I'm looking at 2021 blue version, thanks!
if u are putting in on Ultralight rod, get the 2000. If you are putting it on heavier rod, get 2500. Don't worry about spool
@@ifishcatfish yeah I went with the Presso 6'6", thank you for the advice!
@@MichaelSAugust definitely 1000 or 2000 size Legalis then.
@@ifishcatfish Thanks again! I went with 2000 size. Another topic, and I will look thru your videos, but do you have any recommendations on a travel case for this setup? Maybe a future video topic if you haven't covered...love all the great content man! 👍
@@MichaelSAugust just regular rod sleeve. This rod is not that expensive nor fragile. I dont use nothing fancy
I have a Trs801Glx Gloomis 6'8 ultralight. I'm looking to pair it with a shimano Vanquish. I see you have no 1000 size reels on your ultralight gear. Would the 2500 size Vanquish be a good fit for my gloomis ultralight?
It will balance well because it is so light. But might look a little weird on an ultralight rod. But with respect to fishing and balance it will be fine
Another mind blowingly honest and very educational video. By the way do you know which daiwa models that uses the same size gear? Is the 1000 and 2000 equipped with the same frame and gear for instance?
as far as I know 1000 and 2000 is always same body and same gears. Only spool and handle are different. I have never seen a single exception
@@ifishcatfish Thx 🙏
@@ifishcatfish thx for helping out
Shimano stradic ci4 4000 with 4.8 or 6.2 gear ratio is better for pike fishing. What is you opinion. Where are you from anyway ?
I prefer low gear ratio for everything that is freshwater. Only for saltwater i can see some applications where u would need speed. Low gear ratio gives more power and longer life of gears
What do you think about daiwa ninja lt? Didn't hear it mentioned, how does it stack up against legalis?
inferior. Legalis is the cheapest Daiwa you should buy
Sir, can you please make a review about the daiwa crossfire LT? The chrome one? Thanks!
Already bought too many reels just for review... I can't buy them all : ). No matter what you are doing, i recommend spending the extra money and get a Legalis LT
I need a quick tip, I'm setting up my first "nice" ultralight combo. I have a 6' 6" St. Croix Premier. Any suggestions on $150 reel and also size? I guess I assumed I'd get a 1000. Anything helps thanks!
how long is ur rod
@@ifishcatfish 6' 6" long. I have been looking at the Tatula LT 1000 because all of the stradic ci4+ on eBay are around $220-240
6'6 st croix premier... this rod is neither short nor light. It may balance better with a 2500 tatula. Bigger reels cast farther because of bigger spool and because the gears are bigger they last longer before lose smoothness. In my honest opinion i would not even go for the tatula, because it is 6.3 gear ratio. I would go with Exceller LT, because it is 5.0 gear ratio and has less resistance than the tatula. It feels exactly like a tatula, even though it is not. If you really want tatula, i would buy one from japan, with the 5.0 gear ratio, but its not worth it. If you are getting it from amazon, please consider purchasing from my page: www.amazon.com/shop/i_fish
not if u got the legend elite panfish rod.... then it is worth spending the extra buck to save on reel weight, so u get better balance. But 1000 size tatula with that rod will end up being tip heavy rig
@@ifishcatfish I have the St. Croix Premier UL 6' 6" and it's 79 grams. That is heavy??😅
Which models of the exsence ci4+ and stradic ci4+ do you recommend? There are so many choices online, especially digitaka.
CI4+ is amazing reel, but i would not buy it now, and the new version will come out any moment. Same for exsense. It will be basically the FL, but with carbon body instead of aluminum
@@ifishcatfish thanks for the tip! Maybe get a good deal on the older models. Your Amazon page has the stradic fb model, so I'm assuming that's your choice. Was about to pull the trigger on a 2018 exsense but I'll wait if they're releasing a new one.
i have a couple of them and absolutely love them, but wouldn't buy them now... u can buy the new gen for same money in a few months.
If u can get them for $150 then yeah - get them, but i have never seen that
Thank you! How can I stay in the know with release dates from Shimano and daiwa? I almost bought a theory 2506 for $280.00 but I'm looking at legalis too.
Theory is very old too. I wouldn't buy now. I would buy the Luvias 2500 which costs the same. The bigger models feel good. Just don't get the 1000 and 2000 sizes because of the resistance from the grease. Or wait for new shimano stradic.
Shimano doesn't have a calendar. I just expect this based on their patterns. Sometimes u see leaks before the release, but the leaks are leaked intentionally in my opinion, and they come 1 month before the actual release..
I am new to ultralight fishng and want to know how far will a 5ft 6 with 4lb test cast a 1/64 ounce lure (like a trout magnet or a 1 inch gulp minnow.) I want it to be able to cast far so i can reach where the fish are because i live near ponds that ive heard dont get past 6ft usually 5ft deep. And the drop off is ok but i just want my little lure to reach out there in that 5ft hole or somewhere were the fish are at least. so yeah i just want to know if a 5ft 6 would cast out a 1/64 oz jig at least 15 feet or more.
it depends on the quality of the blank, but 15 feet is nothing. any rod should cast that with 4 lb line. But if u need distance and u fish from bank, u need longer rod
@@ifishcatfish ok thanks for the tips
Do you use the Shimano JDM rods? And do you prefer them over any other rod?
Shimano JDM rods is a different world. Not covered in this video. Price points will be much higher. I had a couple of 300$ majorcraft rods and plan on getting a shimano and some others, but frankly, nobody is watching those reviews. They may be interesting to few, but not many consider spending this kind of money. I am trying to focus on popular tackle because this is where the interest is.
That said, i am trying to get vendors to mail me rods for a couple of weeks just for review.. then i would review them. But otherwise this tackle costs a lot and not many watch reviews, while the rods in this video are cheap and many are interested
Gotcha, I thought I heard you say you use JDM rods while doing the Q&A portion. So I thought you may have meant the Shimano JDM series.
I wonder how well would a Shimano Stella SR 2000s that I have pair with a G. Loomis Classic Trout Panfish SR841-2 IMX rod . I'm asking this because the rod is on sale for 200 $ and I don't have a rod for the stella .
i have absolutely no idea
Truly like your videos! Keep up the good work.
I have one question; why use such large reels for ultralight fishing. Anything above 1000 is too large in my humble opinion. I'd don't have a any problems with the spool size thusfar on the 1000's)
Thanks. Let me ask you something before I answer - what part of big reels is a problem for you?
@@ifishcatfish weight to rod ratio. There's reasonable priced and well weighted reels out there, I see that now!
It's just that I don't have trouble with my 500/1000 (Sahara/Regal) reels either. And when going UL, the smaller the better for me.
Shimano Vanford or Vanquish 2500 will weigh less than any 1000 size reel from any other brand, except Daiwa. Also when u get into 7 foot rods... the tip gets heavy on lower priced rods, so they actually FEEL better with a 2500 reel. Also if the rod has big guides, like the one you showed me, a 2500 reel looks right. It's not cut and dry... just because a rod says Ultralight on the blank it doesn't mean that it must have a 1000 size reel. It doesn't even mean that the rod is ultralight. It doesn't even mean that there is a right or wrong decision. If u prefer small reels go small. If i use 1000 size reel i have to go to 4 pound braid. If you use monofilament or fluorocarbon the line gets all curly from the tiny spool and it really hurts casting and fishing. I like small reels too, but i hate small spools.
What is the shortest rod you would recommend for a Exceler 2500? I am thinking in terms of rod to reel balance.
I have mine mounted right now on the 6’6 shimano sensilite UL. Feels absolutely perfect. The reel stays on that rod permanently. Look good together too
@@ifishcatfish so would you recommend an Exceler 1000 for a 5' 6" rod?
Yes
@@ifishcatfish thank you for your recommendation - love your reviews!
What about the Okuma Helios or Inspira. Feature packed, light, and also under $150.
they are good, reliable reels. The only area where they lack is the gears. Shimano and Daiwa cut gears with much higher precision even in cheap reels and just feel smoother and more expensive in the hand
What do you prefer sir between DAIWA 17 Presso LTD and SHIMANO reel 19 Vanquish?
Shimano is definitely the better reel. Both are equally super smooth but shimano has less resistance... lighter rotation. However both reels are amazing and differences are small and I usually make my mind depending on what rod I will be pairing it with. If the rod has orange accents, as many rods do, I will go with the Presso for better color match. If the rod is all black, as many JDM rods are, I would go with the Shimano.
The Daiwa Presso has a better sounding drag, if u care about that. It is very vibrant, like a guitar string. I really enjoy listening to it. Not sure if u care about that. I have videos with both reels where the drag is very audible. Not sure if someone other than me cares about that : )
@@ifishcatfish Thank you for quick reply and great review sir. You gain my sub..
What's your take on using braid for float fishing if you need to get the longest cast possible? Or would you stick to mono or fluro? Specifically I'm targeting crappie with small jigs or hooks with a minnow. Your a huge help!
this is THE ONLY application I have left for braid. You just mentioned it. I hate braid for everything else. I hate it. I hate fishing with it. I don't want to know how good it is. But for float fishing it is the best just because of buoyancy. I don't care for casting distance. Even when i fish from the bank the crappie is close to bank. I just never had to cast far. However i like the buoyancy of braid because the line sits on the surface. If u use anything else, even mono, the line starts to sink a little after a few seconds. It varies a lot line by line, mono is usually ok as well, but braid is best. When u set the hook it makes a big difference if the line was on the surface or it was sunk. I like to jig my float too. U can't do that with sinking line. And with mono is not optimal. Braid is best for jigging a jig under a float for crappies. In my opinion.
@@ifishcatfish cool! I have to cast far while wading in the colder months so if I need to use braid to do so, I will. And I've actually heard alot of people saying braid sinks and mono floats. Actually researching some better floating braid as we speak.
U dont need to speculate about this. Dont listen to anyone. Cut a piece of braid and drop it in a bucket of water.
@@ifishcatfish thank you! You da man
U need to add stradic fl 2019 to ur arsenal , so strong yet very light . Nice review btw.
Its not that light. It is metal. My problem is the chrome color though. I will wait until they release a JDM version that will be black and low gear ratio and will buy that one. I promise u there will be a jdm version
The 4'6 Browning rod...I think it was renamed? The 4'6 Bass Pro Airstream PTC seems very similar but they no longer have Browning as far as I can tell
yes, it was renamed, and painted red. They lost the Browning license.
@@ifishcatfish thank you kind sir!;
You should try out the old18 suppressor UL it’s American made and on par with JDM rods
yeah but who would watch a video about an old rod? whats the point.. I can't even get them to watch videos about the current models ..
Hello Sir, I’m a new subscriber to your channel, becose of complete information about Ultra light equipment that you share. I search information that can help me to decide what is good for me. I looked for Shimano Poison Adrena 4-12 gr. with a Shimano Vanford 2000 or 2500. for perch fishing in city canals. Considering the high price of Adrena, is better to take a Shimano Zodias instade? And second question: Will be a big diference if Zodias is with 2 segment, or definitely 1 segment (regardig transport). I appreciate maximum your answer. Thank you so much again. And hope your answer will help many like me.
This guide is from 2019. Please check my guide for 2021 that I just released. I have had only 5 or 6 high end rods and I talk about them in my buying guide. But I cannot comment on rods I have never touched.. You need to find someone who has this rod.
@@ifishcatfish I will watch it. Thank you!
What reel was on the Shakespeare Micro Light? Is that a Daiwa Regal?
you, sir, must be new to my channel : ). That is Daiwa Legalis. It is in pretty much every ultralight video on this channel
@@ifishcatfish thanks! yeah, relatively new.
I need one reel which can use mainly for light fishing (trout) and for pike and zander. I need recomendation what reel to buy in price range 30-60$. Okuma and daiwa are my favourities. Thanks
pike and walleye do not fight hard, Legalis LT or Exceler LT is all u need. If u want more power get the shimano Sahara, but it is heavier
@@ifishcatfish what size ? I prefer smaller reels because I often travel and care it in my backpack. Also I use a small telescopic rod 2 meters long, 10-40 grams. I know that tele rods are not so good for spinning but it is practical for me. Also, a heavier reel is not a problem, I prefer durability.
2500 is perfect, whatever reel you chose. Sahara is definitely the more durable reel, both the frame and gears are stronger. Check the weights of the reels online, Sahara is better but weighs 40 grams more.
@@ifishcatfish Never used a shimano before, will check it in a local store. Thank you for advice!
I hope u can make a review about ultralight rods that are asian made (excluding Japan) just around South East Asia. Thank u
I don't even know any such rods, but don't have budget for that anyway. You are welcome to mail me one for review!
What’s your thoughts on the st croix premier? Is there any point to a daiwa fuego on freshwater say kayak fishing?
Fuego is exceler with Magseal. No point for freshwater spending money for magseal. Exceler is easy to clean and lube at home. Fuego is not. I dont recommend Fuego for any water, just because there is no point to this reel, even thought mechanically its great. But u spend extra money to buy something that will be a problem later
i_fish when it comes to cleaning reels do you have a video I couldn’t find one or do you have an reel cleaning kit or oil you’d recommend?
i_fish do you have a lube you’d suggest for maintenance?
I use only TSI 321 for bearings - any bearings. For drag disks i have a couple. For gears i have more - that depends on what kind of reel u have and how much resistance u can tolerate. Heavier grease protects more but i don't like the resistance in smaller reels. I don't have video because there is a million experts there and everyone has their own opinion and its impossible to prove one grease is better than other anyway
i_fish ya my president 20 is sounding off. A little nervous because I’m a novice. I’ll study up a bit. Are you able to add that lube to your amazon shop? Rather order threw you if possible then just amazon.
For casting the longest under a float with small jigs, what's your ideal set up? I'm usually wading for crappie late/early in the year. Looking for the best type of line, reel brand and model with a tall spool (I believe this helps line come off easier for farther casts), and rod brand and model/length.
7'6 Daiwa Presso 2 piece paired with Legalis LT 2500D or the new Regal LT 2000. Legalis reels are lighter and the 2500 balances best. Regal LT is heavier and u have to go to the smaller size. Main line would be daiwa jbraid 8 lb, and leader would be some fluorocarbon 4 lb. U can go lighter in the leader if u know u will catch ONLY crappie, but i get bass and channel catfish and carp (check my videos) and i enjoy landing those accidental fish, so I stick to 4 lb leader. When i jig i go down to 2-3 pound line because carp and catfish will rarely chase a moving jig. But if the jig is suspended under a float they will eat it.
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Absolutely, I was going to check out your vid on that soon. I often go to braid while crappie fishing because of the same reason, was just about to mention that! I hook big bass or pickerel and with mono I used to use I'd get break offs and that's annoying! I want to land every fish no matter what.
Especially get break offs if I'm fishing around structure and I need to horse them in a little, love playing a fish out though!
I’m watching this in 2022 so everything went up so I’m stilll trying to find a good combo and I just bought one of Amazon which was the Diawa QR750 which I don’t like because bad quality and has a jiggle to it when I jig it so ima return it. I also bought a celio rod and the back end is not very well fit for me so ima probably just return it so I’m looking for the best combo for jogging for some trout around 100 to 125 maybe a bit more thanks
i made a new version of this video, released in december. But not much has changed..
Hello, what do you think about your Major Craft Go Emotion?, which action is it?
fast action, pretty fast. But I love that rod. Looks and feel more expensive than it is. If it had more expensive guides it could be amazing
@@ifishcatfish Thanks! It’s the GES-70L?
Is the daiwa Aird X worth buying? I’ve heard too many good things about it not to ask and try it out. It’s like 50 bucks too.
haven't tried that rod, but the guides they put on it are the cheapest thing you can find on the market
@@ifishcatfish Damn. Haven’t heard anything about the guides honestly but at the same time I’ve never loss a guide before too. That’s weird. But thanks for your opinion.
But if they used the cheapest guides the blank is cheap also. Also cheap guides are heavy and ruin the feel of the rod
@@ifishcatfish I mean I’d expect it to be cheap but durable enough for like pan fish etc. It’s really just a 50 dollar rod too. Interesting though. I’m have to do more research on it then. Thank you very much!
is the new legalis better than the old one? or worse
Have you tested Temple Fork Outfiters 701-1 rod?
no. I was trying to get them to send me one for review. I dont want to buy that rod as i have too many already and really dont need it. But people asked me for review several times..
Excellent video!
You tried kastking reels ?
yes.. the rovers, which suck, and the kapstan, which is surprisingly good. I have review of the kapstan.
What do you think about the ugly stik elite ultra light? Also what is good for long casting treble hook lures?
are you talking about ultralight fishing? I don't know much about bass fishing...
I don't recommend Ugly Stick for anything Ultralight. Horrible balance, very heavy solid tip that completely kills any kind of sensitivity. All of their models are catfish rods if u ask me.
For treble hooks you want regular action, not fast. The Presso is the best, also there is an amazing Okuma rod that i reviewed but forgot its name. Open my playlist with rod reviews and scroll and search for okuma. Its probably the best thing under $100 for treble hooks, assuming u talk about utralight fishing
@@ifishcatfishfor smallmouth with ultra light lures . I was looking at ugly stik elite 7 ft ultra light for treble hook lures only . But looks like presso is lighter . So legalis 2500 for the presso or 1000 ?
Get the 2000 model from japan if u can find it. It sold out after my reciew but im sure they will pump
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How about the kastking calamus UL ? Thoughts and review on it ?
The reels in this video are the very best at their price points. No exceptions. Everything else at the same price point will be inferior. I don't mean to be arrogant but this is my opinion and u can take it with a grain of salt. I have not tried that kastking reel but knowing where it comes from it will have the same problem as all other NON Japanese reels - no sophistication in the contact of the gears. Nothing else feels like these reels. I spend thousands of dollars on reels just for these reviews. U can chose to believe me or go guy and try yourself.
i_fish thanks I watch the same video like 5 times really helped narrow it down to diawa and shimano rod. Only things is if I want 2 piece or 1 , traveling or just having it in the car and all purpose rod. Vary helpful review I must say.
I like the legalis 3000 LT , it's perfect with the presso spin rod.
3000 = 2500 with deeper spool. What do u fish for?
legalis great reel, Where can I find 1 for $50
@@ifishcatfish I like panfish . Crappie, perch ,and bluegill. They are tasty!
@@rspencer2511 Amazon, EBay. Sometimes you can find great deals thru independent sellers as well. Check online. I've seen the Revros LT for extra cheap.
Everywhere. U can start from amazon
Do you know what is the difference between a daiwa legalis lt 1000D (US) to a legalis lt 1000S (japan)
didn't even know there was a 1000S. Probably gear ratio is lower. But the USA version already has a low gear ratio
Cheers Mate.
THE ZEBCO 33 ULTRA LIGHT MAX CAMO SPINCAST IS THE BEST
T C i actually have one zebco.. never reviewed it because i cant cast that thing :)
shimano stella or daiwa excist? ... shimano vanford or daiwa ballistic? whats your choice
Yes!
I know the larger spools reduce the coils in the line but for me spooling a reel that size with 2# line just seems off. too much line fits on the spool.
right. I know what u mean. Walmart has a monofilament line called Zebco Omniflex. It costs like $1.50 for a 1000 yard spool of 6 pound like. I use it to fill up the spools and then just put 100 yards of quality line on top.
@@ifishcatfish also if you have not had an opportunity to try Leland lures trout Slayer series ultralight rod it is hands down my fav ul rod at $50. it's extremely light and has American tackle aerowave guides.
i asked them to send me one for review but they declined. I am interested in this rod but will try to have someone send me one for review
Good video. As long as I can have a reel under 185 grams or so I’m OK with it. I have tuned all my Luvias and am more than happy with them. The Presso Limited is an outstanding reel and if I could get another at the sale price I would do so but I’m not sure at the full price it is worth that over the Luvias. I have the 2013 Certate which is tuned also but it is not as good as the 2015 Luvias reels. The Shimano Twin Power is a very good reel at the price point and I could see myself maybe getting another one. I am going to get an Exist and a Vanquish in the not too distant future. The reason I want them is as you said in one of your rod videos. How do we know if we don’t try that lightest rod.....or reel......whatever the case is. The one thing I do know in buying both of those reels I will not be disappointed. The Luvias is over due for a refresh and it should not be long before a new one comes out. Like you stated....one can’t purchase all the rods and reels out there......but at my age I’m going to go out swinging.......LOL. Keep up the good work.
Careful, Randy, if u buy one vanquish u will buy more. I myself am looking for some kind of deals in that reel to buy more. Luvias is a great reel but compared to vanquish it feels like a bass reel. I tried the new exist several times already. Amazing reel no doubt. Feels like a piece of swiss jewelry. But it has more resistance than the vanquish. Nothing is as finesse as the vanquish.
I need to drive to TN one day to see and try all of ur jdm rod treasure .. :)
I got an email notification that u replied to my last video, but when i click on reply, i can't find your comment. I dont know why youtube is deleting comments without asking me. Extremely annoying. I have made you approved user now, hopefully won't happen again. Just a heads up. I would hate it if u think i deleted your comment or something. But yeah, i have to reply to this one instead. And I agree on JDM jig heads. I think it doesn't matter which is the sharpest because they all penetrate fish flesh with zero pressure.
i_fish no worries. That happens to me also....and I can’t figure out why.
@@ifishcatfish have you tried the regal? might have even less resistance than a legalis, it spins by it self when held up slowly rotating it(not handle)... heck might even less resistance than vanquish.. can vanquish turn by it self? without turning the handle.
I have a question why go lower gear ratios?
i will make a video about that
Would you recommend the daiwa fuego for lrf fishing in the uk
dont know what lrf is. Fuego is ok for saltwater but i prefer the Nasci. Better gears and stronger frame. A little heavier but for saltwater i think Nasci is better
@@ifishcatfish thank you for the quick response, lrf stands for light rock fishing so basically ultralight fishing from the coast. I was looking at a Grey's gr50+ 2-12g lure rod do you know anything about it. with such a light rod would you recommend the daiwa fuego
Thank you
Zi
i don't have expertise in saltwater fishing, particularly about rods. As for Fuego, you can read my post above
One rod I can recommend to you, if you can still find it somewhere (they're not made anymore) is a Sonik LightTec Spin 6.6 1-8gram !!!
I have one sonik rod from UK. Its a 12 foot carp rod. Is that the same brand?
@@ifishcatfish Yes that's the brand! As said, they don't make the ligttec spin anymore unfortunately. I recently sold mine, which I now regret!
Here's a little article about it: www.ukmatchangler.com/specialist-pages/reviews/rods/sonik-sports-lighttec-spin-1-8-grams.php
There is a store close to where I live that still has a 7 foot laying around....
@@ifishcatfish oh, and I just say your musky on a trout magnet catch, congratulations! Here in the Netherlands I catch a lot of pike and zander on my ultralights as well, awesome fights! Usually I fish with fluoro leader as well but if there is too much pike around and losing too much gear i switch to thin wolfram or titanium leaders.
@@ifishcatfish Anyways, like to watch your channel, keep it up! (you just made me buy some Legalis LT's :D).
i wouldn't lose sleep over this rod, if i were you. This brand doesn't make rods or blanks or any other components. They just submit orders to chinese companies and they manufacture them with the Sonik label. Same about their reels. It doesn't mean its a bad rod or bad reel - they are usually alright, and especially from a value perspective. But in terms of top of the line quality - there is zero chance that brand will have anything special, i promise you that. If you want a nice ultralight, just save some money, and i promise you the top end tackle today is really beyond imagination.
OH,0H , THIS IS GETTING DANGEROUS!! :)
luiz cartez be quiet boomer
@@jacobe9719 what does boomer mean to you? I m a little confused. Describe it ! Go on!
luiz cartez old person
@@jacobe9719 , oh, i see now.. i cant argue with that.
great review as always, but it just sucks how many specific recommendations on rods/reels dont carry over to products available in europe, and the ones we do have here are simply 20-40% more expensive. legalis is 70 euros for example. on top of that there are many reels here that you cant even find reviews for that are on this level from people like you that do in depth reviews, so you really dont have much to work with most of the time, which has been a pain in the ass since i got into fishing. ive managed to still find some of the models people swear by, and brand recommendation and other info that helps assessing product quality on your own has been helpful, but its just way harder.
its not daiwa's fault. The european overlords want to tax and control everything
Get the st croix trout rod. 7 ft light. It’s insane best trout rod I’ve ever had... better than loomis. Just buy it and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Gotta be the 7 ft light power.
Light... hmm.. I was going to say i tried the Ultra Light many times in the store and hated it every time. Very stiff first half and at the same time very soft and wobbly tip. Horrible combination. But the Light may have better tip. Will check the Light next time. Still don't have high hopes as that rod has cheap all steel guides and because of that will never feel too good
Thank you sir for all the information, but I'm going to the other side of the spectrum and going to buy a reel for halibut. You wouldn't know anything about the bigger reels? Looking at the penn squall lever drag two speed. Thanks again for the information and I always enjoy your videos.
I really like the shimano tekota. They have many sizes and versions, some with line counter if u trol. But i dont know ur budget. In big saltwater reels daiwa and shimano have very tough competition, unlike freshwater spinning reels. Some really good american brands out there. I have only used the tekota on one of my buddies and that thing is solid as a tank and smooth as butter under load
@@ifishcatfish thank you sir. I will definitely be looking at the tekota. Thanks for advise sir and thanks again for great info in the videos
@@hustonwitt9425 I can second the Tekota. I have several used for salmon on Lake Michigan. 10 years and no maintenance or failures. Hundreds of Kings and other Salmonids!
thoughts on new shimano sienna 500 ultralight?
it is small but not light. Not even cheap. U can buy the regal LT for 10 dollars more and its 10 times better
I bought the "Quantum® Bill Dance Special Edition Spinning Rod and Reel Comb10: and I love i beenbcatching a lot of fish with it mainly trout.. I Would like to see what you think about it 🤔😁😁
you say you would like to see what i think about it, but i don't believe that. If u hear me talk about this reel you will not like that.
Was not impressed by the st croix pan fish rod. I didn't like the moderate action. I do absolutely love the trout series rod. Specifically the 5'4" ultralight
Sahara or Exceller ? Which one is smoother ?
I dont think a human can make a difference. Both super smooth. Sahara is stronger though, even though equally smooth, but also Sahara is heavier. If you need size 1000 or 2000, get Exceller, if you want bigger sizes, you can go with Sahara
If you had only one reel to choose for ultralight crappie fishing, what would it be ... money no object
2017 Daiwa Presso Limited. I say that on the channel from time to time. I dont like the new Presso though
@@ifishcatfish interesting that you didnt say stella.
Thank You Sir and keep up the awesome job!
Picked up 2 Presso 7' and 2 Exceler 2500 high speed. Just waiting for the ice to leave the lakes and I will be chasing the panfish! Feels wonderful in the hand. Drag is super smooth. Rods are very, very light.
Nice. Why did u go for the high gear ratio? Just curious
I bought a Sedona for $40 thinking i could use it for UL, and yep, too heavy, like 9oz... the 1000 size is as heavy as my 2500 nasci...
nasci are heavy too