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Show of hands how many think HOA's are unnecessary and should be banned
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They're not in the UK and it's GREAT
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HOAs shouldn't be allowed to charge fees for infractions unless the money specifically goes to fixing the infraction.
Watch how fast they stop charging fees.
You underestimate their pettiness. They'd find ways to turn "fixing the infraction" into a way to torture the owner out of sheer spite for the fact they aren't letting them torture them with fines for no reason and taking the money.
"HOAs shouldn't be allowed."
- I feel this is all that needs to be said.
@@damionlee7658 The ones that are nice and actually go to bettering the neighbourhood can be renamed to Neighbourhood Associations, and everybody has a seat so some Sonia can't come in and take the system hostage
The fact that HOA’s exist is enough of a horror story.
I don’t have the misfortune of living with an HOA but listening to these makes me never have to live under one
Luckily we don't have those in my country or at least not that I know of. Didn't even know about them until I was like 27 (I'm 29 now).
I disagree. Who would rule over us peasants?
Stories like these makes me glad that my Grandfather used the HOA rules and regs against the president of the HOA and made him move out. And all he had to do was plant a fast growing palm tree which was legal by their rules right on his side of the property line so it would extremely unsightly to the president. And he couldn't do anything about it. Even if the board made a rule the HOA had a grandfathering clause that unless a super majority of residents voted to get rid of it. So the tree stayed. So eventually he got so mad with this tree he tried everything to get rid of it even tried to kill it but my grandfather caught and sued him and won. He was defeated and sold the house within 5 years of it going up a cool person moved in and he had the tree taken down.
And what started this whole mess? Not taking their trashcans back fast enough... and getting fined for it. My Grandfather was in the hospital and Grandmother was with him. There was no time too.
My Grandfather was one those you eff around and find out how vindictive a catholic man can be..
The first day I was moving into my house I got a visit from some boomer navy vet who introduced himself as the HOA president. Cool, whatever i thought until a week later when I get letter from the HOA saying I was in violation for having trash cans out past trash day and having a car parked on the street. The violations were dated to my move in day. I didn't even have trash cans yet. I found out later on that the HOA would send out violation notices to new residents, presumably as some sort of weird flex.
My disabled friend lost her house because it sat empty. Her parents and friends were taking care of it, mowing the lawn ect. While she was in the hospital for several months. The HOA changed the locks. She is fighting it but she doesn't really have the money to do that.
I don't rhink they can do that
I would help your friend by lockpicking the door and take the house back.
@@tfordham13 Unfortunately many of these HOAs have rules in their contracts that the organisation can foreclose a paid off home if they think the owner of said house is violating any rules. Yeah, they pretty much gave themselves rules to steal somebody's property.
Having listened to so many HOA stories I can only assume they are some sort of legalized protection racket. Someone can just decide to create one, send you bills for dues and fines, and if you refuse to pay, signed contract or not they can take you to court and force you to pay or foreclose on the house you're paying the mortgage on? In a country with the highest civilian gun ownership this sounds like a recipe for high velocity lead.
I've heard of HOAs putting your house up in a private auction and buying it back for pennies.
Truly evil shit these people get away with.
I was hired by an older lady to renovate a house people were evicted from. Asked what they did she said "They didn't pay their bills"
Said dont worry she already had it cleared with HOA to do the work. Later figured out she was on the HOA board and it was a money trap. (The house was made to look appealing to a buyer, than start fining for all of the violations) ie mulch too cheap, deck is wrong color. (Didn't complain to her because she always pay us on time for the job).
Holy... so the house was intentionally out of HOA code so they could charge fees?
There's gotta be a class action lawsuit there or something.
I heard a nuclear revenge story. A HOA in Arizona took an old dude's house for unpaid fines then kicked him out his house. He moved to California leaving behind a storage locker. 6 months later after stewing in his anger he goes to the next HOA meeting with an assault Rifle he has stored down in Arizona. Killed the HOA president, and vice president, injured several others at the meeting and then turned the gun on himself. The HOA was disbanded shortly after. Moral of the Story HOA's taking houses for unpaid fines should be illegal. If I ever lived in an HOA I'd do everything in my power to become president and then disband it
@@sallevadorradman1938Oh I think I remember hearing about that too.
@rileymcphee9429 Yes and no. Real estate agent recommended them how to make the place appealing. Then we come in, the only things that look fine able was using cheap mulch for the garden, And deck was left natural instead of paint or stain color so the owner could choose the color.
We had an HOA when we lived in Florida. We had many horror stories. For a while we had a “geezer patrol” who would ride around our neighborhood on bicycles looking for violations. This was an elderly couple who would refuse to acknowledge our waves, and pretended not to see us. One day I put some sealer on our balcony to fix some leaks, and in three places it spilled over. They weren’t visible from the street, but after the geezer patrol came by we got a notice that there was an unsightly black substance on the front of our house. The rules were enforced by a set of deed restrictions, which we had to agree to when buying the house. One favorite tactic of our neighbors was to add extra paragraphs to the deed restrictions and send us a copy, telling us to fix things that they didn’t like. We had our own copy of the restrictions, and refused to conform to rules that weren’t in the original. Then one day a fellow came by telling us that we had to sign a petition to change the deed restrictions. It required 90% of the homeowners to sign, and because of many vacancies in the neighborhood they needed our signature to change the restrictions. The guy said that with the existing restrictions, it was really difficult to sue anyone. And I’m thinking, “you want me to sign a petition to make it easier for you to sue ME. No thanks!” Then he said “But we need to have majority rule!” He had parked his car in front of my house. So, I said, “there’s six of us and only one of you. By majority rule, that car now belongs to us.” He said, “but that’s my car!” And I replied, “and this is my house. Get out of here!” Finally, we had a financial crisis that required me to move out of state for work. My wife stayed behind to let our daughter to finish high school. One individual on the HOA board saw this as an opportunity to go to work on my wife. He started sending her threatening letters with pictures of supposed violations. We agreed that we would throw the letters away without opening them (they were really upsetting to her.) After sending a few letters they started sending certified letters to let us know there was a lawyer involved. She arranged not to be home when they arrived, so the mailman would leave an attempted delivery notice. We never went to pick them up, and they were returned to sender. Then we got letters from the HOA lawyer. I always replied to these, because the poor guy was just doing his job. My reply was always the same “We are in conformance with the deed restrictions, we have always been in conformance, and always will be.” This shifted the burden of proof to the HOA. Our next door neighbor and good friend was on the HOA board, and let us know that the board didn’t have enough money to sue us. We sold the house, moved out and will never live in an HOA neighborhood ever again.
That’s awful! I swear, HOA’s are so often run by people with control issues. And people who don’t care about the neighborhood so much as they want their own neighborhood, but can’t afford it.
At least they didn’t have money to sue though. The HOA in my parents’ neighborhood is so ridiculous that the association has been locked in a legal battle over an easement for YEARS.
HOA also once got involved because I was walking my leashed, well-behaved dog on the neighborhood walking/riding trails (which is allowed). Apparently, the lady who BOUGHT a house ON the walking trail didn’t like people walking on the trail by her house. Her solution was to scream at me, threaten me and my dog, and then sic the association on me. Initially she threatened to sic her 3 Doberman dogs on me though, so I guess the HOA is a little better than that. Less cute, and equally noisy, but at least I didn’t need stitches or a tetanus shot afterwards.
A couple years back, the HOA even wanted the right to approve design choices made inside an outdoor building at the back of my parents’ property. In the end, no one got their approval before renovating, and they have yet to realize- because it’s inside, where no one can see from the outside. You can’t actually see the building at all, unless you’re on the property, which makes the whole thing extra absurd.
Ironically, the neighborhood where I live has no HOA, but other people often assume it does. Residents here tend to adhere to a set of standards (not required and not enforced, of course) that make the area look very cohesive and even planned- much more so than my parents’ HOA neighborhood lol. So yeah, HOAs get involved doing extra nonsense and somehow still manage to do a poor job of their intended purpose.
Story 13, Yikes. Sonia was f***ing unhinged before she was a board member and used that (power tripping) as an excuse to go crazy, put her kids in danger, had everyone's street parked cars illegally towed, violated Tree Law, and attacked Zelda and her husband. This is another reason why people hate HOA.
Seriously! Poor Zelda.
that story kept making me thinking of totk
I bet,when the Police kicked in the door to get at her,she started screaming "I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AND YOU DO NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO BE HERE! LEAVE AT ONCE!"
Of course,we know Police only take orders from the Chief and Local Government, not some looney who used to run a single community..
Gators are just this HELLLL NO
They make great burgers though.
Found the Florida Man
New York actually ...and that is not a sewer gator joke. Well now it is...
I still think the best one I've encountered was "your old cars are ruining our property values!" Woman... you got that land cheap BECAUSE it's right between a junkyard and a busy marina.
What did you expect?!
I maaay have started running the separator right next to her fence shortly thereafter.
It sounds like a tornado full of dumpsters!
I was towed from my own parking spot, not knowing I needed a tag… and paid for everything.
Last time I deal with any kind of HOA
Fun timing. Dont live in a HOA, but shared ownership appartments, meaning there are 8 identical buildings with 11 appartments in each, where all the exterior and maintenance of the building is done through a board selected by the homeowners, and we have to pay a fee every month. Kinda like a HOA except it actually makes sense as we all live in the same building and share the same garden etc. For simplicity I'll just call them an HOA.
Anyways, i have an assigned parking spot and there is a line of 10-ish parking spots for guests. Had family over today, 3 cars, my mother parked in my spot while my grandparents and aunt parked in two spots in the guest parking. Then just as they were supposed to leave my 69 year old grandmother gets a message from the leader of the HOA telling her that her car is not registered with anyone living in the apartment, and that cars not registred with the appartment can be towed.
In the f*cking guest parking.
Then at the end of the message they asked her what she was doing there. She initially just said sorry and wanted to run to her car, she was leaving anyways so luckily not a big trouble, but i still don't think it is right for anyone to threaten guests. I took her phone and sent a message saying she was visiting me with my name and apartment number. That is when they sent to her they are getting the parking upgrade tomorrow so the cars need to be moved.
It wasn't even 8 in the evening yet. She had been there for only 3 hours. There was 0 reason to threaten her with having her car removed for something happening tomorrow.
I'm still livid. When i have calmed down i will send them an email to make sure i have not missed any information, which i doubt, and if i get confirmation that i didn't i will tell them off for threatening an old lady with towing for being parked in the guest parking. They are guests, ofcourse their lisence plate isn't registred on anyone living in the apartment. And if i have to register the number plates of my guests i guess I will have 20-30 plates to register just in case a friend or family member visits.
My grandma lives in an HOA near Phoenix, AZ. One time, they chopped down a barrel cactus. I'm looking into protected plants for her.
I'd rather live in a tree than live in a neighborhood with a H.O.A.
That HOA thing with the plants reminds me of what that woman that gave birth to me did. She destroyed my entire garden because she said the gardner said my plants were dead. Not only do we not have a gardner but it was February where most plants are dormant.
Then the bit changed it to bugs. There were no swarms of bugs in February. You know with snow on the ground.
The fact that a two-way refers to their bylaws as a covenant is enough right there to make you want to run
Oh dude I remember when I was a kid, I used to have one of those kid's miniature cars. We had an old Karen neighbor who constantly complained about it (she was the only one since a lot of other kids on our street and in the neighborhood had them since prior there wasn't a ban) and because she always complained to the HOA about it, they banned anything from those little electric vehicles to skateboards- get this- ON ONLY OUR STREET and the rule stayed in place even when she moved out.
Another time more recently (compared to the other one), my house burned down and my dad was in the process of working with a construction company to rebuild it. The HOA for that neighborhood complained about how a half built house with rubble from the house that had to be torn down completely then rebuilt was an eyesore and that they were going to fine my dad if they didn't clean it up. Keep in mind, the rubble wasn't in the street, and was all entirely within our property.
HOAs should be illegal.
Was in a similar situation with a HOA that was started 90+ years after my home was built. they've tried to get 3 of my cars towed because they were older vehicles( had some rust/ dents). They have since given up on any attempts to get my family to join and have been blacklisted from contacting the code enforcement due to this issue.
I cannot get over this. Americans of all people, for all your talk of freedom and liberty, you let people tell you what you can and can't do with your own property and pay for the privilege.
When/if I ever get my own house I'm gonna make sure it's not an HOA neighborhood, if one pops up I'm making it known I'm not joining, especially if voluntary. If they try me the 12 gauge comes out
Pretty sure there are some in Europe and Australia. My friends who studied there were harassed by random people about a car being parked in forward.
@@jamesbraun9842in Europe we don't have HOA's but in most countries if you don't have a payed parking space, it is illegal to park. Also, in the days when the garbage truck comes to pick it up, you are not allowed to park your car there. Usually this happens on the streets without parking places.
Never heard of them before (I live in Australia). Not saying they don't exist but I've never heard of a HOA type thing here in all my 29 years of being alive.@@jamesbraun9842
An HOA sounds like a Soviet Union Neighborhood.
A person from Austria (made some political career in Germany in the first half of 20th century) would be proud for these atrocious HOA persons, snitching and spying on their neighbors
I am not proud that I laughed at this comment.
I rented a house in an HOA once that had a little sapling in the front yard. Maybe 8 ft tall tops. Hurricane Irma goes directly over our head as a Category 2 storm: knocking down trees, flooding roads, killing power to most of the county. The poor sapling gets knocked sideways so it's sprawled at a 45 degree angle across the path to the front door. No big deal, we can walk around it, but we call the landlord and she arranges to have an arborist come fix it next week. A couple days later a letter comes from the HOA saying we're in violation because the sapling has fallen over. Um, yeah?? Half the trees on the street are down, neighbors are dealing with ripped siding and damaged windows, emergency crews are desperately trying to clear roads and restore power, and you're mad that our 8ft baby tree is sideways?? The arborist propped it back up eventually but of all the issues I had with that HOA, that's the one I can't get over.
I'd spray the neighbours mailboxes white then complain about it 😂
I got a story.
We had a park with a couple of benches then a small playground. the playground had sand surrounding it BUT was covered with this cheap foam stuff you would find in a lazer tag arena. We live in arizona, this foam stuff had shrinked and shriveled due to heat and began to be somewhat of a safety hazard, as it left a small gap between that and the concrete. Little kids would trip and fall onto it, people filed multiple complaints because of it. The HOA (of course) did nothing to fix this. that was until a small autistic 2 year old came running around the area. he tripped, fell, and cracked his head in two (i was there) there was blood everywhere and the family had to rush their baby to the hospital. the HOA? Still did nothing! After the bills for them came in though, they threatened to sue for reckless endangerment. The HOAS reaction? Immediately patched it up the next week. they waited and watched all these small things occur, and only took action when something serious came up.
Thankfully, my neighbourhood has a pretty lax HOA. Keep your property up to city codes and make sure your car is parked in the right direction (depending on which side of the road you’re on), and you’re all good.
However, one of my dad’s friends lives in one nightmare of an HOA neighbourhood. He had to fight them just so they’d let him build a play set… in his own goddamn backyard… for his own kids. They fined him for it being taller than his backyard fence, despite never listing any height restrictions for the play set.
For what possible reason at all is there to join a HOA? There is no reason at all to do so, it's literally the stupidest thing I can think of doing. How do you even get into one in the first place? Or more importantly how do you avoid getting into one at all? Never EVER want anything to do with them.
The second I graduate from high school and move into my own house it’s my first goal to become public enemy number one for the HOA
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that deck story was horrid and illegal. since he had singed the paper stating he didn't have to pay for the deck the HOA is in violation of a contract and can be held legally liable.
I work for a third party that processes hoa and condo payments. I’ve seen quite a few horror stories and even some sad ones. I tell friends before you buy a house ask if it has an hoa. If it does keep looking because they can now take out leans on your home
i have to question the sanity of any 1 that thinks joining a hoa is a good idea lol
As an American, I have 0 idea why HOAs exist. Go play city typhoon and have your neet little houses their. My land my dirt, I do whatever I want
We were gonna get evicted for not having a second tree in our yard
We had a small tomato plant on the front porch that was HOA approved. One day we had to move it inside while they did some regular maintenance on the porch. This took a few days and the plant sorta died and there were no tomatoes on it. This would only be temporary of course because they were going to grow back once we put it back outside and gave it some life. As soon as we put it out we got a notice about dead plants. I couldn't regrow the tomatoes inside, and apparently you can't grown plants outside unless they're already blooming, so I had to throw it away and buy a new plant with tomatoes already growing. It was the dumbest thing ever.
As someone who lives where I don't think HOAs exist -
What do they actually do???
Because it just sounds like a bunch of people get together to make rules about stuff and fine people they don't like for breaking them, oh and you have to pay for the privilege of being micromanaged as well.
I couldn’t imagine paying a mortgage and there’s a group of people that can control EVERYTHING but the fact you have to pay your mortgage. If someone was telling me how my house could look I would loose my mind. Ain’t no way I’m paying 3k a month for someone to tell me what I can do and can’t do.
This is why I will NEVER live in an HOA.
My property, my money, my rules.
18:52 can you imagine? Can you believe it we found our dream home he does everything we we've ever wanted in a house let's buy it right away. Wait the neighbor has two garbage bins in his front yard. Nevermind
In Mexico there are two kinds of HOAs: the ones not owned by real estate moguls, which will leave you alone if you fire a couple projectiles into their building and will never mess with you if you dispatch someone; if you have a beef with the HOA, just dispatch one of their members, don't worry about criminal charges after all this is López Obrador's Mexico, and the HOA will respect your private property after that.
However, if you're not lucky, your HOA will be owned by real estate moguls, and the narco here is part and parcel of the real estate industry. So if you try to fight back, they will literally call El Mencho on you. When that happens, omae wa mou shindeiru.
Hearing such stories makes me happy that such organisations do not exist in Austria in any way, or if they exist, they would never have that kind of powers here.
No wonder that nobody in the US wants to actually live in such associations, if the 'benefits' are totally outweighed by such horrid behavior of the HOAs leadership. But I also read that up to 80% of all newly built homes in the US are now part of an HOA, and those that are not are unaffordable for the younger generation, so they are essentially prevented from safely buying their own property.
I'm not afraid to die anymore, I'm actually looking forward to the silence and never having to deal with stuff like this again.
Story #10 - If I was that church, I'd get to trying to get the HoA disbanded. Start by suing them for refusing to allow work on the house, on the grounds that it's an attractive nuisance thanks to them and could get people killed
Also you can vote to remove a HOA.
I have done construction for many Hoas before. Most of the time they Are making rules up for cost cutting. (Sees fee for rules they have, if we thought the rule was difficult we had counter fees). Notable ones.
1. Hauling fees:
Hoa rule: No tractor or truck can be left over night.
Us: ok than that's extra $500 per day, plus $100 for everything we need the trailer to take away. So that's about $1000 a day extra.
Hoa: Here let me talk to the board, (pretends to call) "Hello, can we add about $20,000 on to the budget... Why? Well you know how we dont allow large trucks and construction vehicles over night, well They charge $500 to have it hauled away and set back up every day and in addition its $100 per piece of equipment. Ok ill tell them. (I talked to the board and they said it falls under approved construction and approved contractor so you're good to go."
No problem with pay and the house sold almost immediately. Saw it a few months later for sale again.
Thank u!!!!
6:46 I know this story! This one was from my city! It made the news lol.
I worked in the HO management industry for about 15 years and there were a few Boards that were really out of control. Most of the time the members didnt really give a crap and just left people alone. Yes there were violations, but most of the time they would take the fines off the account once it was fixed. They would give peoole more time if there was something going on, like an illness or job loss etc... Sometimes they would even get together and go help fix the violation, and a couple of times the Boards even credited off the assessments because of some awful tragedy (one family lost a child to a freak accident) Mostly they were pretty fair.
Ill tell you who is NOT fair and who gets no bad press ever, the city! When the city cites anyone for a violation they only allow abut 14 days to correct it (not 30-60 like an HOA), and the fine isnt $25-50, it's $150-250 and can even be double that if they cure the problem themselves. They can also issue a citation, which is basically a ticket, and if its not paid, a warrant can be issued and you can actually serve JAIL TIME all because you didn't mow your lawn.
Also, just a bit of advice, if you find yourself possibly moving into an HOA, make sure they are professionally managed. Never, ever buy in one that's self managed. Professional management isn't perfect, but it does help.
I mean, I can understand the No Christmas before the first of December
It is fecking and I'm already getting stuff for Christmas from Neighbors and Corpos
About the church with a abandoned house how long would it take for it to decay on its own to the point that its not a house but a pile of rubble
You really need dividers audibly between your stories, I have no idea when one begins and ends as I'm usually tabbed out
What's the game in the background footage?
Firefighting Simulator - The Squad
16:41 those parents are soft i wouldnt listen if it was me
**plays “Horst Vessel Lied” to these stories**
There’s a part of me that wants to move into a shitty HOA just so I can cause problems and watch them melt when they can’t do shit about it.
Yo whats the game in the background pls
I'm not living in the USA so I never in my life came accross an HOA and I have a few questions
Can you just not join an HOA when you move in ?
-If you join an HOA , what kind of benefit is there ?
-Can you not pay the fines ? If you don't ,what is the HOA going to do about it ?
- Can the HOA give you fines if you are not a member ?
I don't live in the USA either, but what I have gathered from listening to all these stories is:
1. Agreeing to join the HOA comes with the contract to buy the house. If you want that house in that HOA neighbourhood, then you automatically sign up and agree to the HOA-rules.
2. The benefits are financial help and other things to do with the house, access to the common areas (swimming-pool, laundry-room, etc), etc. You pay a monthly fee that goes into a money-pool, that will finance repairments/etc.
3. Yes, you can simply not pay the fines. You can also not pay the monthly fee (which will make you ineligible for whatever benefits the HOA offers). What state laws can be used against you in that case I am not sure. If you have the money for lawyers, I bet you can win against the most fines.
4. No, of course some random HOA from across the city can't give you fines. BUT if you did buy a house in a HOA, then you are automatically a member of that specific HOA.
What's even the actual point of HOAs? Making the area look nice?
Never ever ever get involved with an HOA. Got it 👍
What game is that in the background?
I’m starting to think HOA boards need to have an age max for whoever wants to run one, same with elected officials!
The first story dounds fishy, in most places the HOA would put a lien on the property so youd have a hard time selling it.
anyone know the game in the backgound tho?
If it's your property do what you want, unless it's dangerous. Paint your house any color, grow some trees, put up flags. It's YOUR property and they can **ck off.
I'm sure somewhere out there is a good HOA, I'm a part of an actual decent union and they have a similar idea. But back to the story do we know why she was holding an old man hostage? Why hurt that family in particular?
game??
What game is that?
I read "hoa horro' "
I have zero sympathy. No one is forced to live in a community with an HOA.
Head of HOA lied on resume. Had zero experience, completely unqualified. Fooled idiot community for years. I was the only one who googled her when stuff seemed off I guess.
- Spring Creek HOA Nevada.
Due to a combination of your accent, the way you pronounced "dues" in the final story, and me not watching the captions, I thought that the fledgling HOA in the final story sent out letters asking for Jews.
I had to stop what I was doing and backtrack a few seconds to see if I heard you right.
Fortunately, OP got a letter asking for dues.
Not Jews.
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Honestly was waiting to hear that one of Sonia's kids got urameshi'd by one of those cars..🤷🏿♂️
Sonia was kicked in the head by a horse
thank god i don't live in country that has HOAs
Hm Sonia and Zelda? hmmm... that's from a new trending Legend of Zelda game. I mean new as in it came out during may 2023 and this came out 6 hrs ago same year game released. Either the person who made is a zelda fan and had to cover up the HOA's real names, it's a fake story/based off a true thing but still fake and really an attempt to show their love for loz, it's a PERFECT coincidence, or my nerdiness is getting serious. (Maybe it's the last one 🤷🏻)
It's a reddit read... half of the stories are fake. That being said, privacy laws and seeking anonymity are a thing too.
Make sure to get the Wacky waving inflatable arm tube man from the wacky waving inflatable arm tube man salesman at Wacky waving inflatable arm tube man Emporium.
It Is not required to join h.o.a
Hoa sound😅😮 mental
AH SHIT BNOT FIRST
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Sonia and zelda are NOT fitting characters for that story...
Your video is very triggering. Please think about viewers who have had a house fire before using house fire videos.