It's probably SO difficult to commit to this regular release schedule, but you really create a community by giving us a comforting routine to share in. Thank you for the hard work you do.
Truly one of the best on TH-cam in terms of density of quality and quantity of content. I don't think that's an exaggeration anymore we even know we always knew it.
The only real enemy that I can think of that would wish to pursue an enemy for hundreds of thousands of years would be a machine intelligence with the amount of spite equal to the type in “I have no mouth and I must scream”
@ CR Smith That's what I thought too, except I thought, what about if a prey fleet enters a solar system, uses the planets of the system to do undetectable slingshot maneuvers outbound, seeds the asteroids of such a system with automated factories to produce stalling forces to attack the pursuit fleet and automated decoy fleets to throw off the pursuers ? The only problem is if the pursuing fleet were AI and robotic based, then they would likely induce the automated forces you leave behind and decoy fleets by standard light speed communication to join them and reveal their locations. Now what if the original pursuit fleet were biological, but over time and many cycles of this happening the fleet that is pursuing you is eventually essentially your own creation ? This kinda dovetails the narrative of the Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica and Caprica story.
While flying through a red giant seems like the ideal place to scatter, even with fake ships made to be as reflective or emissive as the real ones but acting as decoys, all while utilizing the gravity well of most of the star including it's core to manouvre and change directions and speeds for all those real and/or fake scatering ships. One ship goes in, a myriad of ships go out in many directions. All seam real until the pursuers get close enough to see that all of them except one is made of the 35th century equivalent of cardboard. Interesting idea for whoever wants to use it in a hard scifi space opera.
As a bonus you could have each of the decoys be capable of assembling/dissembling into Von Neumann probes that can act to seed and rebuild civilization from a saved information bank so any which the enemy ignores or misses can grow again to become an advanced civilization. Of course this requires you to have prepared for the possibility of needing to flee prefect for the paranoid civilization obsessed with preserving their existence. It might actually be a good "origin" for the aliens which masquerade as gods in one of my science fantasy settings given that the idea was they were refugees fleeing something which caught up to them and wiped them out resulting in their gods vanishing and an ensuing dark age where knowledge is lost. Cue science eventually advancing and reaching the space age and rather than pristine asteroids and planets they find wreckages of the alien ships/space stations in tattered ruins. Whoever did it left leaving them and their world behind albeit picked clean of all advanced alien technology. Just imagine that revelation you are in a long cold war space race analog looking out at the solar system and you find dead alien ruins the ruins are partially stripped of whatever the perpetrators took away presumably the technology the so called gods had used to rule over "mere mortals" and travel between the stars and all the knowledge stored within the ruined vessels but everything else is left derelict. No knowledge or evidence would be left of the attackers so they would be left to speculate under the existential dread that someone came and wiped out alien beings so powerful they were thought as gods and then left selectively removing some technology but leaving everything else. What happened?, What did they remove and why? Might the attackers return and if so how do they avoid meeting the same fate? So many questions to worry about and how might they shape society? :P
@ This is new That's what I thought too, except I thought, what about if a prey fleet enters a solar system, uses the planets of the system to do undetectable slingshot maneuvers outbound, seeds the asteroids of such a system with automated factories to produce stalling forces to attack the pursuit fleet and automated decoy fleets to throw off the pursuers ? The only problem is if the pursuing fleet were AI and robotic based, then they would likely induce the automated forces you leave behind and decoy fleets by standard light speed communication to join them and reveal their locations. Now what if the original pursuit fleet were biological, but over time and many cycles of this happening the fleet that is pursuing you is eventually essentially your own creation ? This kinda dovetails the narrative of the Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica and Caprica story.
Yes absolutely; it's literally only you. Well done you singular entity you, leading the way on the luminar passage of the evolution of consciousness itself. Your intellectual superiority will forever be revered. Amen
If the fleet is fleeing rather than spend a huge armada, send just enough to make them afraid enough to continue to flee. Say automate a robot fleet to noisily chase, but never catch the enemy fleet. The persuit fleet being a robotic hound fleet chasing the fleeing fleet, allows your civilization to advances far beyond anything the fleeing fleet could contend with.
"~You left a couple and they will breed a couple more, and soon after we will be hated twice as before~" If you decided to start a genocide you better commit to it.
Especially true if the fleeing fleet is moving at relativistic speeds. The rest of the galaxy will operate at a faster clock and make faster scientific progress than the fleeing fleet. (Anyone who has played Stellaris will appreciate this.)
Using a laser as a photon rocket and shining the beam into a star should be extremely difficult to detect. It also gives one hell of a defense against pursuers.
4:22 "Math lesson compete, no quiz to follow." Oh thank God, considering how I somehow graduated from high school despite struggling in high school algebra I would have been screwed. The scales and numbers SFIA deal with would break me. Yet another informative video Isaac, I look forward to the Christmas Q&A and wish you and Sarah a Merry Christmas.
Try the Organic Chemistry Tutor. It's a youtube channel that presents (in addition to Organic Chemistry) math in a very easy to learn manner. It starts from basics and goes as high as you'd like. I honestly learned more in six months of his lessons than I did in six years of school.
I'm just starting the video and I'm already lost. Shouldn't we be adding or subtracting time dilation to the equation? And yes over those sorts of speeds, distances, and time scales time dilation is going to be a factor!
I think a lot of people find the kind of numbers used in astronomy daunting because they try to work with them written out in full, rather than in scientific notation. Which looks easier? 170000000000000000 1.7e17 The latter, right? I think the designers of the metric system realised that, too. That's why we've got the prefix system. It's a linguistic version of scientific notation, just quantised to multiples of three (well, if you ignore the prefix cluster around unity (centi, deci, deca, and hecto) that gets little use with most units).
@@Roxor128 Funny we were taught to write it like this 1.7*10^17 ...and that calculator e always messed with my head (When i first started using Texas instruments)
bringing the concept down to scales that we mortals could possibly grasp: imagine fleeing Alexander the Great's conquest south up the Nile and still running and hiding from them today. how likely would both sides still be following the ideals and purposes of their original reasons for the flight and chase? a mere 2.5 millennia later.
Dropping a von Neumann antiship missile defence system into star systems you pass could really ruin the pursuers whole morning. Potentially leaving two antiship missile optimizers fighting eachother for a very long time.
Traversing the voids between galaxies is something that must happen all the time, not to escape enemies but because all of the local galaxies are falling towards the Great Attractor. The only way to survive in the very long term is by analogy to keep leaping from ice floe to ice floe as the floes accelerate towards the top of the nearby waterfall.
I mean, entering it’s center isn’t going to end anyone or anything so it’s not that big of a deal (There might be issues with close supernovae, gamma ray bursts, or similar, but it’s so long into the future we have enough time for it)
What if the hunted civilization is a machine race too? Wouldn't that mean that the two essentially commit to a . . . _machine race_ ? * sun glasses * _YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH_
Imagine living on a fortress world who for thousands of years has been fortifying, drilling, regimenting its population and creating a fleet that can literally blot out the sun as a dyson swarm only for the ‘Archenemy’ to arrive and announce, oh the galactic genocide thing, we don’t do that anymore.
And not just this universe, either. Duncan Idaho piloted the Ithaca through many varied alternative universes, on its mad dash away from Omnius' tachyon net, in the events described in the risible two final Dune series sequels co-authored by Frank Herbert's son & Kevin J Anderson.
These videos have given me so much inspiration over the years for the scifi series I'm making. My dream is that one day it gets published so I can thank Isaac properly
If you are fleeing them you turn around and head back towards them but with an angle at 45 degrees so you end up going under or over them. They think you are trying to go away from them. It all depends on how far and good their scanners can go.
The telling of life among the evacuation fleets you described reminds me of an episode of Metal Hurlant Chronicles. They showed the remnants of a destroyed civilization and what was left on ships headed toward an uncertain future. Also you talked about the large arrays. In the Honor Harrington universe. Each star nation uses massive arrays thousands of kilometers in length to detect hyper footprints light centuries away.
IIRC, the detection ranges in HH are lower, more like hundreds of _light-days_ instead of light-years. The prime concern seems to be relativistic kill missiles released from half a light year away, with a few years time to target. Any more, and it wouldn't be an effective weapon in political time scales (all major HH polities have FTL, so they're synchronized pretty well), no use in launching an attack that'll hit a century later, possibly long after even the longest war has ended. What's measured in hundreds of LY is the diameter of a major polity (called "star nation"), and most space junctions (a small region of space that allows ships to cross some space instantly, to appear at the other end which is usually many LY away). Manticore, the POV polity for most of the books, is in possession of a particularly useful junction, with the "hub" in the vicinity of the Manticore system (about one light-day out) and as many as six outer endpoints, each more than 100 LY away.
@@gitrekt-gudson well I didn't like the Blame! anime adaptation (literally fell asleep 3 times while watching), too much dialogue, but I feel like Knights of Sidonia would work better for that format.
You could send smaller faster supply ships ahead to gather fuel and other supplies, then have it accelerate to your speed to meet up mid flight, so you don't have to slow down for supplies.
4:22 Just as we did with Pioneer and Voyager using planets to increase our speed and change direction so could stars be used. Occasionally going into empty space to a far away star to throw off the scent?
Great episode. I wonder if the smaller, fleeing civ might eek out some advantage via more focused/specialized development paths (i.e. improving stealth faster than their pursuers improve detection, despite the pursuers having more resources).
Issac Arthur is just plainly awesome very much appreciate the content he creates that let's us stare up at the night sky an dream & imagine how far we really can go.
Baltar -"Adama, wait! You must hear me out. I have been to the Cylon seat of power. It is in chaos! Cylon forces are scattered throughout the star system searching for you. The route back into the Cylon empire is BARELY defended. They're spread so thin, ONE SINGLE BATTLESTAR can take control of the empire and bring it to its knees!!" I agree with Baltar, feign a retreat, then counter attack is the best model for success. Plus - Why run.. .
Want to escape the galaxy? Find the fastest star that is on a trajectory that reaches your destination, and settle around it,after few hundreds of millions year you will arrive on another galaxy.
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 they do it all the time, (obviously majority of stars continued to orbit around their galaxy center of mass ) , and from what I remember the fastest star that was detected escaping from our galaxy move it with 8% of light speed.
The newest Alastair Reynolds book, Inhibitor Phase, set in the same universe as the Revelation Space series, has a lot of discussion about "stealth" in space within realistic physics. I haven't finished reading it yet but so far it is very good At one point they do exactly what you suggest, plumeting into the photosphere of a star and maneuvering using plasma fluid dynamic interactions to avoid giving up their position when slowing down into a system.
Isaac: Plow through a sun to obsure your vector. *Laughs in Andromeda Ascendant.* Yeah, that didn't end too well for them either. New video idea: Reasons why an interstellar civilization would chase you for eons across the cosmos and what to do about it. See episode titled: "Scorched Earth". :)
Assuming you have a head start anyway, staying in the galactic plane makes it easier to find red dwarfs/nebula to use for harvesting and/or hidden direction changes. You could go ahead and leave the galactic plane early, but you'd be giving up a lot of resources and oppurtunities to make strong burns hidden by stars. You'd still get those oppurtunities if you left the galactic plane, just not as many, not as often, and a sufficiently capable pursuer would have a smaller list of stars that might be your destination.
Using sails might be detectable by the background star field occlusion they may cause. Depends how big it is. Also you can use gravity to change your trajectory with no possible detection without any engine burn by cruising close to stars. Calculating survival distance is left as an exercise for the reader. Why travel to the rim? Just vector your fleet perpendicular to the galactic plane to avoid passing through solar systems of questionable danger. Asking volunteers for splinter missions would probably be fruitful for those who tire of the regimentation of the main fleet.
4:20 curious to know what the effect of this arithmetic would be if ships began approaching a significant fraction of the speed of light, such as to invoke relativistic effects.
AFter 10% the speed of light you'd start running into relativistic effects. In truth, even that speed would be problematic due to energy use, and radiation at the front of the hull, both of which are showstopper problems. Unless you are Q, it isn't happening. Mirrors. Man. Big Mirrors. Bring the universe to your couch lol.
I like the idea to dump mass behind you. It might scatter the emission of your thrusters and at the same time can be used to accelerate towardsyour prosecutors by the same means to accelerate you away from them. For example you drop mirrors and beam lasers at them. This gives you thrust and also sends high velocity projectiles towards your prosecutors, kinda like a mine field.
On the matter of inbreeding, go check on the Hawaiian royalty - inbreeding there was mandatory, and the closer the familial relationship, the more prestigious they considered it. And yet, it appears they were healthier, stronger, and all around better than the rest of the populace, not merely because, being royal, they had access to more and better resources, but genetically they were actually healthier and stronger. Because they were utterly ruthless in culling out the defective. Any baby born with obvious physical defects was immediately killed. Others will killed off if and when they showed any signs of trouble. For problems that aren't outwardly obvious at any point, like hemophilia, they devised tests like cutting up the feet with obsidian - no aid was administered to the cut feet, they were left to heal up naturally, or for the hemophiliaic to bleed out and die. Turns out if you are prepared to be so vicious in eliminating the genetic defects from an inbred population, those who are left are healthier and stronger in every way. Not many cultures would accept such brutality against infants and children, but for those that do...
It's amazing (and terrifying) what a society can accomplish without the shackles of morality or human rights. See China's exponential rise to power, for example
In a certain sense, what our host suggests, editing the DNA of a fetus, is that really any different? The baby that was meant to be born by the natural combination of the DNA is "killed". Indeed, in the case of DNA editing, effectively a "new" baby replaces the old one. It's almost like the old European folklore about changelings, except *we* are the changelings ourselves! Sure, our methods might seem more humane, scientific, and enlightened, but bear in a mind that whatever practice you think is so humane and enlightened today, people a thousand years in the future will probably deem barbaric. Perhaps the better way to consider the matter is that we are doing the best we can with the means available to us at the moment. At the same time Christian missionaries in mesoamerica were trying to stop human sacrifice, in Europe there was still on-going Inquisitions, witch trials, and trial by combat. Were Christians really so much more enlightened, or just doing the best they could according to their understanding of the world around them? It's not a simple question. I'm not here to be a cultural relativist - certain practices are indeed quite horrific regardless, especially the harming of babies and young children, but the point remains that whatever you deem barbaric from the past, it is worth keeping in mind that future generations will find something you do or believe to be barbaric. Such is the nature of human progress.
I was a very good math student right up until 11th grade and then I was completely derailed. I attended a Catholic elementary school before starting at the Bronx High School of Science. Like most incoming 9th graders, I had taken algebra in 8th grade. But for some accreditation reason having to do with my 8th grade math teacher, I was not allowed to take the NYS Algebra Regents Exam. So I had to repeat Algebra in 9th grade. But it felt like I was a year behind. I finished with a 96 average in Algebra and a 98 average in Geometry. I decided to apply to the Honors 11th Grade Math class because it was a combination of Trigonometry and Precalculus. If I did well, I could have taken AP calculus in 12th grade. I didn't do well. As I said I was a very good math student, but that class was full of actual geniuses. It moved way to fast for me. I had a 70 average in my first semester. I switched to the regular trig class, but the honors class had done mostly precalculus first, meaning I was a semester behind. It ruined my life in that I majored in history and went to law school. But that experience wasn't really the fault of any of my math teachers. Even with my 8th grade math teacher that was really the school's fault, not hers. My younger sister is an engineer, so if I have a math question, I ask her. But she had some bad math teachers. One was so bad every student in her differential equations class failed. Every student. That was quite a curve. The problem was that the professor didn't really speak English. They all had to retake it with a different professor. I don't think my sister will be sending any email thank yous to the first guy.
This reminded me of something Larry Niven said about Ringworlds. That you could likely make Ringworlds into a kind of ramscoop starship. But given the scale, yould only do that if you needed to evacuate the galaxy.
4:56 Can you have as small a pencil beam as you can with no or weak sidelobes? Either go in a corkscrew or first in one direction, and then another never pointing your beam toward your persuer?
19:05 If you could sneak around behind your pursuers then you might be able to settle down on worlds that they've already scrubbed clean and don't want to stick around for some reason.
Off topic but Issacs intercept dynamics calculations remind me that time travel scenarios are also spatial travel scenarios. Say you wanted to travel back in time only one second (forward travel is impossible due to quantum uncertainty so any time travellers are on a one way trip back unless they age back to where they started)
I had just commented a few weeks ago on another IA video about drive plume interactions with gases used to constrain velocity/location/drive characteristics of a target. Good stuff :)
So glad I remembered and came back to this channel, playing stellaris inspired me lol. I had 2 things I'd love to hear your take on sometime. First is what you think ships would look like given different tech levels, for example your ship design given star trek tech, or mass effect level, or just post FTL in general. Second is an idea I got from an event in stellaris. What do you think of the idea that while a species could meet a less advanced species, but still be destroyed because the less advanced explored ideas that the more advanced never thought of. For an extreme example, maybe the more advanced had no concept of war, so just had no defenses. I know these are broad, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on them some time. Anyway I'm glad to be back and see you're still making amazing content.
Is light losing energy every time it passes through or around a galaxy because of the escape velocity of each galaxy? If so can that account for part of the red/blue shift we see in the cosmos?
Yes it does redshift passing out of as galaxy but also blue shifts passing toward it, so the net effect is minimal when calculated out, and not enough to account for the overall redshift of everything. It was one of the common early explanation attempts though, especially in the early days when we had giant margin of error bars on every galaxy's distance besides our very nearest neighbors.
So when I first watched this video I realized it's sort of describing the deadly snail question on a cosmic scale. Usually it goes like, you get 10 million dollars but there's this snail that is after you that you can't touch or you die. The snail always knows where you are and is indestructible or something. In the cosmic case you're a gigantic spacefaring civilization and the snail is a hostile alien civilization.
7:00 Like trying to listen to a submarine through your hydrophones while going flank speed. You're just going to hear the water cascading across your hull.
Oddly, Fred Saberhagen comes to mind when you speak of fleeing and pursuit not battlestar galactica. Also the primary thought when nihilist, or conquering is mentioned in terms of galactic invasion. I could see humanity fleeing the after effects of their own creation in pursuit of expansion more than strange invaders. Perhaps the reason why we're currently tucked away on a tiny blue speck in the outback of the galaxy arm we're located in? And, nearly every surviving tradition of tribal people says we're brought here fleeing destruction of a war that destroyed planets? Wondered if you knew that... it's a fact. "Came here on seven silver canoes when the fire people made war, destroyed our old home...", is origin story of my people. Berserkers, the ultimate automated hounds. "What T and I Did" reverberating in my memory fourty years after reading it. Not all humanity, but unfortunate other trait of those seeking wealth and status above others, is destruction and conquering void of consideration for humanity. They are, right now, currently in the process of building Berserkers, including some that can mask as humanoid, with biological synthetics improving as a matter of fact. Mahe Ohna ✌️ Favour ALL
theres also a fleet based human civilization in anime without FTL (compared to battle star galactica) ., try “knights of sidonia” anime it has also the same fleet based humans
Reminds me of Aleister Renolds the Green plague. Im also waiting for, in the near future when every other word Arthur says has a link to a sci-fi book or older episode... Keep it up and it will be so.
I love this channel so much. Huge sci-fi fan and never missed an episode for 3 years. But this got me thinking about 40k and how the trynids came from a different galaxy. How did they “catch” the milk way if it’s moving away from the rest of the universe.
Well they are shown moving FTL so that's presumably the method, plus inside your own supercluster the expansion rate isn't really the biggest factor in comparison to just having a speed high enough to get you there before any target galaxy has had time to evolve from bacteria to galactic empire during the time since you left :) Of course it's 40k so it's not really holding scientific accuracy up as a main objective of the stories.
@@isaacarthurSFIA you’re videos got me writing again btw. I loved your video on 0’Neil cylinders got me thinking of a solar system wide war between rival Cylinder States.
@Portal Opener just about ANYTHING would be a good start. You don't seem to know anything except the speed of light, which you stated at least 5 times during otherwise nigh-incomprehensible ramblings about what you see as "wrong" about relativity. For example, what would you accept (another phrase you used repeatedly) as "almost zero" mass? Would "zero +/- 10%" qualify as "almost zero"? And do you have any sources backing you up on that?
Stealth Spacecraft was done in a Blakes 7 episode. They attempted to park their transport ship on an asteroid and ride it in system to avoid being detected.
Whats the possibility that while fleeing you could set up shop in a rogue dwarf planet, hide yourself underneath it, while sending a decoy armada in a different direction from that dwarf planet, and allowed the chasers to just fly right past you?
Not sure if you've seen Stargate universe but the machines are chasing them and figure out real quickly that they are visiting certain kinds of stars to refuel. Really sucks it never got a third season.
interesting tactic to try, use a higher burn rate, to spread the gap, even though you will not make it as far in total, but you can make it to a star, and have a few centuries. while there, build a dyson swarm, and pilot the star. even if they catch up jto you, aiming that "thruster" at them, gonna leave a mark, and thats not even if you up the thrust, and head to the next star faster :P rinse and repeat.
Vector some splinter fleets toward an enemy system but silently vector away from them at the last minute. The paranoid enemy would have to sterilize its own systems, "just to be sure".
1:17 Elsewhere replaces the deadly devil you know here with an unknown devil there that hopefully isn't as dangerous there. Nature and greedy power abhors a vacuum.
I would think that the best strategy for this would be to trick the pursuers into overshooting. 1. Travel far enough away from the enemy's core space that the region is largely unexplored and impractical for them to stick around for any length of time. 2. find a star system where it would be possible for your civilization to survive in some way that is low profile, ideally a habitable planet or at least planetoids, moons, and asteroid belts that could sustain your population without too much obvious sign of industry. 3. put together some sort of "lander" craft, separate from your larger ship, capable of holding and maintaining the population long enough for them to get their act together. 4. Plot a path through that system in which the major portion of the fleet does an acceleration burn, while the smaller portion is ejected, in a way that is meant to appear to be rubble or just part of the fuel being burnt off. 5. The main fleet continues on to the next system, and so on, on a pre-determined path that will take thousands of years to complete. Meanwhile, the actual population hides out in that system in the deepest cover they can manage. 5. The enemy intercept fleet should pass through, hopefully find no signs of occupation, and quickly head out after the core fleet ASAP, meanwhile, it's far enough away from the enemy's core that it wouldn't be worth them sending any additional forces to that area any time soon. Ideally, the decoy route would take a slight angle as well, so that any follow-up intercept fleets would gain advantage from taking an alternate route that would not send them through this refuge system. It'd be a gamble, but better than nothing.
damn Isaac, your speech sounds incredible, great job!!!!! Cant believe how well you have changed your impediment, not that it ever bothered me before its just freaking boss to hear how well your R's have evolved
I have to agree that very little innovation is made during "chaos". I think of the attack on Pearl Harbor. No great inventions were created during the 3-hour attack. However, if you believe in the adage that "necessity is the mother of invention", then it follows that once the chaos has passed and a group of people have managed to secure their immediate safety, then innovation and adaptation are probably the rule. Life is resilient and as such, humans have historically risen to the occasion when the time factor is removed. Thanks for the reminder on how to calculate where the trains would meet between Chicago and New York. I forgot about 50 years ago how to calculate that one.
Holy damn! I love this one! Lord Arthur is a genius beyond our wettest dreams! We must place badasses like him into the highest seats of office...is there anyone who can argue that point? Thank you IA! Your videos got me off the rig and tar! Love ya, brother!!!
Makes me wonder about a Warhammer scenario where eventually it is revealed that this whole time you were playing as a character in a post 40k universe working through the wargames to decide who gets the Milky Way. Who you are may be a great surprise
It's probably SO difficult to commit to this regular release schedule, but you really create a community by giving us a comforting routine to share in. Thank you for the hard work you do.
Truly one of the best on TH-cam in terms of density of quality and quantity of content. I don't think that's an exaggeration anymore we even know we always knew it.
@John Noname I agree
That's autism for us.
@@bastiaanzoetaert9628 What do mean by that? I hope that isn't a slight against people with Autism or Issac 😑
There's nothing better than consistency
The only real enemy that I can think of that would wish to pursue an enemy for hundreds of thousands of years would be a machine intelligence with the amount of spite equal to the type in “I have no mouth and I must scream”
that's a pretty terribly thought. I wouldn't risk them taking me alive
Or the inhibitors from Revelation Space.
@ CR Smith That's what I thought too, except I thought, what about if a prey fleet enters a solar system, uses the planets of the system to do undetectable slingshot maneuvers outbound, seeds the asteroids of such a system with automated factories to produce stalling forces to attack the pursuit fleet and automated decoy fleets to throw off the pursuers ?
The only problem is if the pursuing fleet were AI and robotic based, then they would likely induce the automated forces you leave behind and decoy fleets by standard light speed communication to join them and reveal their locations.
Now what if the original pursuit fleet were biological, but over time and many cycles of this happening the fleet that is pursuing you is eventually essentially your own creation ?
This kinda dovetails the narrative of the Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica and Caprica story.
@@andrewl.8626 Just imagine, your timeline measured in Galactic rotations...
Planets existing in the space between galaxies are almost certainly exceptionally rare. And whole star systems rarer still.
While flying through a red giant seems like the ideal place to scatter, even with fake ships made to be as reflective or emissive as the real ones but acting as decoys, all while utilizing the gravity well of most of the star including it's core to manouvre and change directions and speeds for all those real and/or fake scatering ships. One ship goes in, a myriad of ships go out in many directions. All seam real until the pursuers get close enough to see that all of them except one is made of the 35th century equivalent of cardboard.
Interesting idea for whoever wants to use it in a hard scifi space opera.
like a serious sci-fi version of the fake town scene from Blazing Saddles.... I'm down for it
As a bonus you could have each of the decoys be capable of assembling/dissembling into Von Neumann probes that can act to seed and rebuild civilization from a saved information bank so any which the enemy ignores or misses can grow again to become an advanced civilization. Of course this requires you to have prepared for the possibility of needing to flee prefect for the paranoid civilization obsessed with preserving their existence.
It might actually be a good "origin" for the aliens which masquerade as gods in one of my science fantasy settings given that the idea was they were refugees fleeing something which caught up to them and wiped them out resulting in their gods vanishing and an ensuing dark age where knowledge is lost. Cue science eventually advancing and reaching the space age and rather than pristine asteroids and planets they find wreckages of the alien ships/space stations in tattered ruins. Whoever did it left leaving them and their world behind albeit picked clean of all advanced alien technology.
Just imagine that revelation you are in a long cold war space race analog looking out at the solar system and you find dead alien ruins the ruins are partially stripped of whatever the perpetrators took away presumably the technology the so called gods had used to rule over "mere mortals" and travel between the stars and all the knowledge stored within the ruined vessels but everything else is left derelict.
No knowledge or evidence would be left of the attackers so they would be left to speculate under the existential dread that someone came and wiped out alien beings so powerful they were thought as gods and then left selectively removing some technology but leaving everything else. What happened?, What did they remove and why? Might the attackers return and if so how do they avoid meeting the same fate? So many questions to worry about and how might they shape society? :P
Pak Protector's would have loved that one.
@ This is new That's what I thought too, except I thought, what about if a prey fleet enters a solar system, uses the planets of the system to do undetectable slingshot maneuvers outbound, seeds the asteroids of such a system with automated factories to produce stalling forces to attack the pursuit fleet and automated decoy fleets to throw off the pursuers ?
The only problem is if the pursuing fleet were AI and robotic based, then they would likely induce the automated forces you leave behind and decoy fleets by standard light speed communication to join them and reveal their locations.
Now what if the original pursuit fleet were biological, but over time and many cycles of this happening the fleet that is pursuing you is eventually essentially your own creation ?
This kinda dovetails the narrative of the Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica and Caprica story.
This reminds me of the Cole protocol
Am I the only one that likes it when Isaac goes in depth with the math in his episodes?
We all know maths required but it's one of my worst subjects. Knew how to read and spell almost instantly as a kid but math I hated.
Yes absolutely; it's literally only you. Well done you singular entity you, leading the way on the luminar passage of the evolution of consciousness itself. Your intellectual superiority will forever be revered. Amen
I suck at math and still love when he goes into depth with the maths!!! :)
Yes it is only you
YES
If the fleet is fleeing rather than spend a huge armada, send just enough to make them afraid enough to continue to flee. Say automate a robot fleet to noisily chase, but never catch the enemy fleet. The persuit fleet being a robotic hound fleet chasing the fleeing fleet, allows your civilization to advances far beyond anything the fleeing fleet could contend with.
i wonder how one would escape K3 civ galaxy that's actively chasing them? now that's some lovecraftian futurism.
"~You left a couple and they will breed a couple more, and soon after we will be hated twice as before~"
If you decided to start a genocide you better commit to it.
Especially true if the fleeing fleet is moving at relativistic speeds. The rest of the galaxy will operate at a faster clock and make faster scientific progress than the fleeing fleet. (Anyone who has played Stellaris will appreciate this.)
@@guillermoelnino The question is, are k3 too?
22:46 "On the stone was etched a galactic map and a single word, more ancient than the clans themselves: Hiigara. Our home."
Using a laser as a photon rocket and shining the beam into a star should be extremely difficult to detect. It also gives one hell of a defense against pursuers.
4:22 "Math lesson compete, no quiz to follow."
Oh thank God, considering how I somehow graduated from high school despite struggling in high school algebra I would have been screwed. The scales and numbers SFIA deal with would break me.
Yet another informative video Isaac, I look forward to the Christmas Q&A and wish you and Sarah a Merry Christmas.
Try the Organic Chemistry Tutor. It's a youtube channel that presents (in addition to Organic Chemistry) math in a very easy to learn manner. It starts from basics and goes as high as you'd like. I honestly learned more in six months of his lessons than I did in six years of school.
Im like you
I can visualize how gravity works without the use of gravity
Yet, Maths makes my mind fade
Its hard to keep track of what im doing
I'm just starting the video and I'm already lost. Shouldn't we be adding or subtracting time dilation to the equation?
And yes over those sorts of speeds, distances, and time scales time dilation is going to be a factor!
I think a lot of people find the kind of numbers used in astronomy daunting because they try to work with them written out in full, rather than in scientific notation.
Which looks easier?
170000000000000000
1.7e17
The latter, right?
I think the designers of the metric system realised that, too. That's why we've got the prefix system. It's a linguistic version of scientific notation, just quantised to multiples of three (well, if you ignore the prefix cluster around unity (centi, deci, deca, and hecto) that gets little use with most units).
@@Roxor128
Funny we were taught to write it like this
1.7*10^17
...and that calculator e always messed with my head
(When i first started using Texas instruments)
bringing the concept down to scales that we mortals could possibly grasp: imagine fleeing Alexander the Great's conquest south up the Nile and still running and hiding from them today. how likely would both sides still be following the ideals and purposes of their original reasons for the flight and chase? a mere 2.5 millennia later.
Dropping a von Neumann antiship missile defence system into star systems you pass could really ruin the pursuers whole morning. Potentially leaving two antiship missile optimizers fighting eachother for a very long time.
Sometimes I wish I could boldly go where no man has gone before. But I'd probably just stay in Aurora.
I cannot blame you. She is a beautiful lady.
Traversing the voids between galaxies is something that must happen all the time, not to escape enemies but because all of the local galaxies are falling towards the Great Attractor. The only way to survive in the very long term is by analogy to keep leaping from ice floe to ice floe as the floes accelerate towards the top of the nearby waterfall.
Don't forget that the great attractor is itself being attracted by an even greater one.
How far away would you need to be to notice that the "milky way" is inside the event horizon of the Attractor.
I mean, entering it’s center isn’t going to end anyone or anything so it’s not that big of a deal
(There might be issues with close supernovae, gamma ray bursts, or similar, but it’s so long into the future we have enough time for it)
The only enemy I could think of, that could possibly be willing to commit to a centuries, millennia or longer chase, is a machine race.
Can confirm. In Stellaris my machine empire chased someone across the galaxy for hours
What if the hunted civilization is a machine race too? Wouldn't that mean that the two essentially commit to a . . . _machine race_ ?
* sun glasses *
_YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH_
Imagine living on a fortress world who for thousands of years has been fortifying, drilling, regimenting its population and creating a fleet that can literally blot out the sun as a dyson swarm only for the ‘Archenemy’ to arrive and announce, oh the galactic genocide thing, we don’t do that anymore.
Imagine the response...’How ironic, because now WE do!!!’
"Actually, we had civil war long time ago, and the leaders that killed your civilisation got killed. We chased you to apologise"
It can be very interesting to know more about Dune's ftl- they fold space, so they can be everywhere in entire universe immediately.
Ooooh, literally everywhere at once.
And not just this universe, either. Duncan Idaho piloted the Ithaca through many varied alternative universes, on its mad dash away from Omnius' tachyon net, in the events described in the risible two final Dune series sequels co-authored by Frank Herbert's son & Kevin J Anderson.
That is what we called "magical" machines on earth,,,
How many times can you fold the universe before it rips?
@@joshkilluminadi7158 yes
These videos have given me so much inspiration over the years for the scifi series I'm making. My dream is that one day it gets published so I can thank Isaac properly
If you are fleeing them you turn around and head back towards them but with an angle at 45 degrees so you end up going under or over them. They think you are trying to go away from them. It all depends on how far and good their scanners can go.
The telling of life among the evacuation fleets you described reminds me of an episode of Metal Hurlant Chronicles. They showed the remnants of a destroyed civilization and what was left on ships headed toward an uncertain future. Also you talked about the large arrays. In the Honor Harrington universe. Each star nation uses massive arrays thousands of kilometers in length to detect hyper footprints light centuries away.
IIRC, the detection ranges in HH are lower, more like hundreds of _light-days_ instead of light-years. The prime concern seems to be relativistic kill missiles released from half a light year away, with a few years time to target. Any more, and it wouldn't be an effective weapon in political time scales (all major HH polities have FTL, so they're synchronized pretty well), no use in launching an attack that'll hit a century later, possibly long after even the longest war has ended.
What's measured in hundreds of LY is the diameter of a major polity (called "star nation"), and most space junctions (a small region of space that allows ships to cross some space instantly, to appear at the other end which is usually many LY away). Manticore, the POV polity for most of the books, is in possession of a particularly useful junction, with the "hub" in the vicinity of the Manticore system (about one light-day out) and as many as six outer endpoints, each more than 100 LY away.
When debating the options interstellar civilizations face, all I could think of is "The Clash":
"Should I stay or Should I go?"
Pink Floyd, "Interstellar Overdrive".
wow caught it at the release !
Another brilliant episode, and we expected nothing less.
The manga "Knights of Sidonia" by Tsutomu Nihei (known for Blame!) is a pretty good read for those looking for story on a related premise.
It's also an anime on Netflix, though I can't say whether it's true to the manga or not because I haven't read or watched either myself... yet.
@@gitrekt-gudson well I didn't like the Blame! anime adaptation (literally fell asleep 3 times while watching), too much dialogue, but I feel like Knights of Sidonia would work better for that format.
You could send smaller faster supply ships ahead to gather fuel and other supplies, then have it accelerate to your speed to meet up mid flight, so you don't have to slow down for supplies.
4:22 Just as we did with Pioneer and Voyager using planets to increase our speed and change direction so could stars be used. Occasionally going into empty space to a far away star to throw off the scent?
My bet is either on Unfathomably long Cryosleep with Artificial Gravity or A variant of FTL that is incomprihensible to us
Great episode. I wonder if the smaller, fleeing civ might eek out some advantage via more focused/specialized development paths (i.e. improving stealth faster than their pursuers improve detection, despite the pursuers having more resources).
Issac Arthur is just plainly awesome very much appreciate the content he creates that let's us stare up at the night sky an dream & imagine how far we really can go.
Gotta love smart people. Isaac is a treasure for those who like to learn
Baltar -"Adama, wait! You must hear me out. I have been to the Cylon seat of power. It is in chaos! Cylon forces are scattered throughout the star system searching for you. The route back into the Cylon empire is BARELY defended. They're spread so thin, ONE SINGLE BATTLESTAR can take control of the empire and bring it to its knees!!"
I agree with Baltar, feign a retreat, then counter attack is the best model for success.
Plus - Why run.. .
Thank you for inspiring a generation! Happy holidays to the whole SFIA crew 😁
When the species on a ship changes, will the ship change too?!
100s of millions of years
Of course it will
The enemy wont know who they are chasing
The (space)ship of Theseus.
"Hey! Are you the guy that was talking shite about me 200,000 years ago? I'm talking to you buddy."
Want to escape the galaxy? Find the fastest star that is on a trajectory that reaches your destination, and settle around it,after few hundreds of millions year you will arrive on another galaxy.
Stars don't usually hop from one galaxy to another.
@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 they do it all the time, (obviously majority of stars continued to orbit around their galaxy center of mass ) , and from what I remember the fastest star that was detected escaping from our galaxy move it with 8% of light speed.
@@theOrionsarms OK, you're right. I wasn't really thinking there.
Isaac Arthur lives centuries ahead of his time..
The newest Alastair Reynolds book, Inhibitor Phase, set in the same universe as the Revelation Space series, has a lot of discussion about "stealth" in space within realistic physics. I haven't finished reading it yet but so far it is very good
At one point they do exactly what you suggest, plumeting into the photosphere of a star and maneuvering using plasma fluid dynamic interactions to avoid giving up their position when slowing down into a system.
Man,I love your content.Thank you for the passion you bring to this.
Mentioning Battlestar Galactica and the Aquarian’s from Mass Effect 👍🏿. So great
Isaac: Plow through a sun to obsure your vector.
*Laughs in Andromeda Ascendant.*
Yeah, that didn't end too well for them either.
New video idea:
Reasons why an interstellar civilization would chase you for eons across the cosmos and what to do about it. See episode titled: "Scorched Earth". :)
I adore how the concepts of this show know no limits and escalate to truly absurd levels
25:05 Why the Rim? How about the equivalent of north or south to get to areas that aren't so dense with stuff if that's what you want?
Assuming you have a head start anyway, staying in the galactic plane makes it easier to find red dwarfs/nebula to use for harvesting and/or hidden direction changes. You could go ahead and leave the galactic plane early, but you'd be giving up a lot of resources and oppurtunities to make strong burns hidden by stars. You'd still get those oppurtunities if you left the galactic plane, just not as many, not as often, and a sufficiently capable pursuer would have a smaller list of stars that might be your destination.
24:50 Unless you have many ships going in different directions all these are bread crumbs pointing to your path?
Using sails might be detectable by the background star field occlusion they may cause. Depends how big it is. Also you can use gravity to change your trajectory with no possible detection without any engine burn by cruising close to stars. Calculating survival distance is left as an exercise for the reader. Why travel to the rim? Just vector your fleet perpendicular to the galactic plane to avoid passing through solar systems of questionable danger. Asking volunteers for splinter missions would probably be fruitful for those who tire of the regimentation of the main fleet.
4:20 curious to know what the effect of this arithmetic would be if ships began approaching a significant fraction of the speed of light, such as to invoke relativistic effects.
AFter 10% the speed of light you'd start running into relativistic effects. In truth, even that speed would be problematic due to energy use, and radiation at the front of the hull, both of which are showstopper problems. Unless you are Q, it isn't happening. Mirrors. Man. Big Mirrors. Bring the universe to your couch lol.
I like the idea to dump mass behind you. It might scatter the emission of your thrusters and at the same time can be used to accelerate towardsyour prosecutors by the same means to accelerate you away from them. For example you drop mirrors and beam lasers at them.
This gives you thrust and also sends high velocity projectiles towards your prosecutors, kinda like a mine field.
On the matter of inbreeding, go check on the Hawaiian royalty - inbreeding there was mandatory, and the closer the familial relationship, the more prestigious they considered it. And yet, it appears they were healthier, stronger, and all around better than the rest of the populace, not merely because, being royal, they had access to more and better resources, but genetically they were actually healthier and stronger. Because they were utterly ruthless in culling out the defective. Any baby born with obvious physical defects was immediately killed. Others will killed off if and when they showed any signs of trouble. For problems that aren't outwardly obvious at any point, like hemophilia, they devised tests like cutting up the feet with obsidian - no aid was administered to the cut feet, they were left to heal up naturally, or for the hemophiliaic to bleed out and die. Turns out if you are prepared to be so vicious in eliminating the genetic defects from an inbred population, those who are left are healthier and stronger in every way. Not many cultures would accept such brutality against infants and children, but for those that do...
It's amazing (and terrifying) what a society can accomplish without the shackles of morality or human rights. See China's exponential rise to power, for example
Didn't know Hawaiians were so awful, thank God they got overthrown
In a certain sense, what our host suggests, editing the DNA of a fetus, is that really any different? The baby that was meant to be born by the natural combination of the DNA is "killed". Indeed, in the case of DNA editing, effectively a "new" baby replaces the old one. It's almost like the old European folklore about changelings, except *we* are the changelings ourselves!
Sure, our methods might seem more humane, scientific, and enlightened, but bear in a mind that whatever practice you think is so humane and enlightened today, people a thousand years in the future will probably deem barbaric. Perhaps the better way to consider the matter is that we are doing the best we can with the means available to us at the moment.
At the same time Christian missionaries in mesoamerica were trying to stop human sacrifice, in Europe there was still on-going Inquisitions, witch trials, and trial by combat. Were Christians really so much more enlightened, or just doing the best they could according to their understanding of the world around them? It's not a simple question.
I'm not here to be a cultural relativist - certain practices are indeed quite horrific regardless, especially the harming of babies and young children, but the point remains that whatever you deem barbaric from the past, it is worth keeping in mind that future generations will find something you do or believe to be barbaric. Such is the nature of human progress.
You could do a Fleet of Worlds, as the Puppeteers did.
When that roach that disappeared the other night flutter buzzes into your face right when you almost fall sleep.
I was a very good math student right up until 11th grade and then I was completely derailed. I attended a Catholic elementary school before starting at the Bronx High School of Science. Like most incoming 9th graders, I had taken algebra in 8th grade. But for some accreditation reason having to do with my 8th grade math teacher, I was not allowed to take the NYS Algebra Regents Exam. So I had to repeat Algebra in 9th grade. But it felt like I was a year behind. I finished with a 96 average in Algebra and a 98 average in Geometry. I decided to apply to the Honors 11th Grade Math class because it was a combination of Trigonometry and Precalculus. If I did well, I could have taken AP calculus in 12th grade. I didn't do well. As I said I was a very good math student, but that class was full of actual geniuses. It moved way to fast for me. I had a 70 average in my first semester. I switched to the regular trig class, but the honors class had done mostly precalculus first, meaning I was a semester behind. It ruined my life in that I majored in history and went to law school. But that experience wasn't really the fault of any of my math teachers. Even with my 8th grade math teacher that was really the school's fault, not hers.
My younger sister is an engineer, so if I have a math question, I ask her. But she had some bad math teachers. One was so bad every student in her differential equations class failed. Every student. That was quite a curve. The problem was that the professor didn't really speak English. They all had to retake it with a different professor. I don't think my sister will be sending any email thank yous to the first guy.
This reminded me of something Larry Niven said about Ringworlds. That you could likely make Ringworlds into a kind of ramscoop starship. But given the scale, yould only do that if you needed to evacuate the galaxy.
Man I’d just be happy to escape my house for a couple weeks.
4:56 Can you have as small a pencil beam as you can with no or weak sidelobes? Either go in a corkscrew or first in one direction, and then another never pointing your beam toward your persuer?
19:05 If you could sneak around behind your pursuers then you might be able to settle down on worlds that they've already scrubbed clean and don't want to stick around for some reason.
Thank you for another fascinating video. These are truly a blessing.
Off topic but Issacs intercept dynamics calculations remind me that time travel scenarios are also spatial travel scenarios. Say you wanted to travel back in time only one second (forward travel is impossible due to quantum uncertainty so any time travellers are on a one way trip back unless they age back to where they started)
what if by the time you escape the galaxy the galaxy goes Kardashian 3 and starts chasing you?
I had just commented a few weeks ago on another IA video about drive plume interactions with gases used to constrain velocity/location/drive characteristics of a target. Good stuff :)
Moore math! This type of visual narration is perfect for learning applied math or being inspired to brush up again.
So glad I remembered and came back to this channel, playing stellaris inspired me lol.
I had 2 things I'd love to hear your take on sometime. First is what you think ships would look like given different tech levels, for example your ship design given star trek tech, or mass effect level, or just post FTL in general.
Second is an idea I got from an event in stellaris. What do you think of the idea that while a species could meet a less advanced species, but still be destroyed because the less advanced explored ideas that the more advanced never thought of. For an extreme example, maybe the more advanced had no concept of war, so just had no defenses.
I know these are broad, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on them some time. Anyway I'm glad to be back and see you're still making amazing content.
Is light losing energy every time it passes through or around a galaxy because of the escape velocity of each galaxy? If so can that account for part of the red/blue shift we see in the cosmos?
Yes it does redshift passing out of as galaxy but also blue shifts passing toward it, so the net effect is minimal when calculated out, and not enough to account for the overall redshift of everything. It was one of the common early explanation attempts though, especially in the early days when we had giant margin of error bars on every galaxy's distance besides our very nearest neighbors.
So when I first watched this video I realized it's sort of describing the deadly snail question on a cosmic scale.
Usually it goes like, you get 10 million dollars but there's this snail that is after you that you can't touch or you die. The snail always knows where you are and is indestructible or something. In the cosmic case you're a gigantic spacefaring civilization and the snail is a hostile alien civilization.
7:00 Like trying to listen to a submarine through your hydrophones while going flank speed. You're just going to hear the water cascading across your hull.
Oddly, Fred Saberhagen comes to mind when you speak of fleeing and pursuit not battlestar galactica. Also the primary thought when nihilist, or conquering is mentioned in terms of galactic invasion.
I could see humanity fleeing the after effects of their own creation in pursuit of expansion more than strange invaders. Perhaps the reason why we're currently tucked away on a tiny blue speck in the outback of the galaxy arm we're located in? And, nearly every surviving tradition of tribal people says we're brought here fleeing destruction of a war that destroyed planets? Wondered if you knew that... it's a fact. "Came here on seven silver canoes when the fire people made war, destroyed our old home...", is origin story of my people.
Berserkers, the ultimate automated hounds. "What T and I Did" reverberating in my memory fourty years after reading it. Not all humanity, but unfortunate other trait of those seeking wealth and status above others, is destruction and conquering void of consideration for humanity.
They are, right now, currently in the process of building Berserkers, including some that can mask as humanoid, with biological synthetics improving as a matter of fact.
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Thanks for being here during the holidays Mr. Arthur! 🙂
I like your southern accent ,its like listening to general Lee telling me about the future. Plus I like the content of your programme's. Well done.T
Thank goodness for subtitles.
Oh I can't wait for the Big Rip episode!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years Isaac.
theres also a fleet based human civilization in anime without FTL (compared to battle star galactica) ., try “knights of sidonia” anime it has also the same fleet based humans
Reminds me of Aleister Renolds the Green plague.
Im also waiting for, in the near future when every other word Arthur says has a link to a sci-fi book or older episode... Keep it up and it will be so.
18:16 Also irradiate just enough to change the DNA a bit, hopefully to improve and not degrade?
This is exactly the topic I needed for these Christmas celebrations! :D
I love this channel so much. Huge sci-fi fan and never missed an episode for 3 years.
But this got me thinking about 40k and how the trynids came from a different galaxy. How did they “catch” the milk way if it’s moving away from the rest of the universe.
Well they are shown moving FTL so that's presumably the method, plus inside your own supercluster the expansion rate isn't really the biggest factor in comparison to just having a speed high enough to get you there before any target galaxy has had time to evolve from bacteria to galactic empire during the time since you left :) Of course it's 40k so it's not really holding scientific accuracy up as a main objective of the stories.
@@isaacarthurSFIA you’re videos got me writing again btw. I loved your video on 0’Neil cylinders got me thinking of a solar system wide war between rival Cylinder States.
@Portal Opener [ _citation needed_ ]
@Portal Opener just about ANYTHING would be a good start.
You don't seem to know anything except the speed of light, which you stated at least 5 times during otherwise nigh-incomprehensible ramblings about what you see as "wrong" about relativity.
For example, what would you accept (another phrase you used repeatedly) as "almost zero" mass?
Would "zero +/- 10%" qualify as "almost zero"? And do you have any sources backing you up on that?
Stealth Spacecraft was done in a Blakes 7 episode. They attempted to park their transport ship on an asteroid and ride it in system to avoid being detected.
I can't wait for civilizations at the End of Time episode woot woot! That sounds really interesting
Thanks Isaac, Merry Christmas to all there.
Cant believe I've only just found this channel. Spectacular content
Merry Christmas holidays!! Thank you for years of wonderful programming!!
Whats the possibility that while fleeing you could set up shop in a rogue dwarf planet, hide yourself underneath it, while sending a decoy armada in a different direction from that dwarf planet, and allowed the chasers to just fly right past you?
Intergalactic, and even inter galactic super cluster space is not completely devoid of stars, they just get fewer and further between.
Not sure if you've seen Stargate universe but the machines are chasing them and figure out real quickly that they are visiting certain kinds of stars to refuel. Really sucks it never got a third season.
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Wow Isaac your videos are always "Top Shelf"! Stay strong and keep it coming!
18:18
When the sequence of genetic code's data gets hit by a stray cosmic ray and you end up bringing something to life you shouldn't have
interesting tactic to try, use a higher burn rate, to spread the gap, even though you will not make it as far in total, but you can make it to a star, and have a few centuries. while there, build a dyson swarm, and pilot the star. even if they catch up jto you, aiming that "thruster" at them, gonna leave a mark, and thats not even if you up the thrust, and head to the next star faster :P rinse and repeat.
Love these awhile working at my 9 to 5 job
Vector some splinter fleets toward an enemy system but silently vector away from them at the last minute. The paranoid enemy would have to sterilize its own systems, "just to be sure".
1:17 Elsewhere replaces the deadly devil you know here with an unknown devil there that hopefully isn't as dangerous there. Nature and greedy power abhors a vacuum.
I would think that the best strategy for this would be to trick the pursuers into overshooting. 1. Travel far enough away from the enemy's core space that the region is largely unexplored and impractical for them to stick around for any length of time. 2. find a star system where it would be possible for your civilization to survive in some way that is low profile, ideally a habitable planet or at least planetoids, moons, and asteroid belts that could sustain your population without too much obvious sign of industry. 3. put together some sort of "lander" craft, separate from your larger ship, capable of holding and maintaining the population long enough for them to get their act together. 4. Plot a path through that system in which the major portion of the fleet does an acceleration burn, while the smaller portion is ejected, in a way that is meant to appear to be rubble or just part of the fuel being burnt off. 5. The main fleet continues on to the next system, and so on, on a pre-determined path that will take thousands of years to complete. Meanwhile, the actual population hides out in that system in the deepest cover they can manage. 5. The enemy intercept fleet should pass through, hopefully find no signs of occupation, and quickly head out after the core fleet ASAP, meanwhile, it's far enough away from the enemy's core that it wouldn't be worth them sending any additional forces to that area any time soon. Ideally, the decoy route would take a slight angle as well, so that any follow-up intercept fleets would gain advantage from taking an alternate route that would not send them through this refuge system.
It'd be a gamble, but better than nothing.
When you really want your own space
Another fantastic episode! The Galactic Martial Services will never get me, now!
Should keep the episode dating system in all ur shows mate. LOVE it😊
@15:36 the guys typing on the computers cracked me up
damn Isaac, your speech sounds incredible, great job!!!!! Cant believe how well you have changed your impediment, not that it ever bothered me before its just freaking boss to hear how well your R's have evolved
Moving in long curved arcs instead of straight lines would make pursuit even more difficult.
Thank you Arthur and team.
I have to agree that very little innovation is made during "chaos". I think of the attack on Pearl Harbor. No great inventions were created during the 3-hour attack. However, if you believe in the adage that "necessity is the mother of invention", then it follows that once the chaos has passed and a group of people have managed to secure their immediate safety, then innovation and adaptation are probably the rule. Life is resilient and as such, humans have historically risen to the occasion when the time factor is removed. Thanks for the reminder on how to calculate where the trains would meet between Chicago and New York. I forgot about 50 years ago how to calculate that one.
Great seamanship turns to the need for great spacemanship.
Just wondering if your times are compensating for reletavistic dilation.
Holy damn! I love this one! Lord Arthur is a genius beyond our wettest dreams! We must place badasses like him into the highest seats of office...is there anyone who can argue that point?
Thank you IA! Your videos got me off the rig and tar! Love ya, brother!!!
Makes me wonder about a Warhammer scenario where eventually it is revealed that this whole time you were playing as a character in a post 40k universe working through the wargames to decide who gets the Milky Way. Who you are may be a great surprise
Can red giants be used for aero braking from interstellar velocities? High Gs obviously.
Solar braking? Coronal braking? In any case, much cleaner and easier than lithobraking.
This guy is a genius 👏
i know its thursday when i wake up to another interesting video from Mr arthur