Was Louis Diemschutz Jack The Ripper? Randy Williams Presents His Case.

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  • @Rollin_L
    @Rollin_L ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd have to read Mr. Williams' book before offering a worthwhile opinion, but I greatly appreciate sharing his research on the subject on this channel. You are fearless, Mr. Jones, willing to give a fair hearing to all who have legitimate research to offer, no matter whether we agree with their conclusions. We all benefit, and I thank you for introducing many of us to Randy Williams.

  • @lysasstuff
    @lysasstuff ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As always I ❤️ JTRT uploads, wishing you Richard and the JTRT family a Happy and Healthy 2023 xx

  • @allanbroadfield5121
    @allanbroadfield5121 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your ripper connected interviews are fascinating. As someone who finds most TV crime plots incomprehensible I find this theory equally so. A good chef can cook a great feast from almost anything he finds lying around.

  • @Swipes83
    @Swipes83 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This has to be the craziest theory out there. But something that kind of backs up his theory is the fact some of the victims organs where placed almost in a ritualistic way. Fascinating watch 👍

  • @Dude0000
    @Dude0000 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bernard Shaw actually made the same argument about the Ripper being a Social Reformer, but very much tongue in cheek.

  • @davekeating.
    @davekeating. ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Richard, you forgot the million dollar question - why did the murders stop?

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 ปีที่แล้ว

      The murders stopped because the police started watching Aaron Kosminski 24/7. So he couldnt commit any more of them

    • @kevinmcgovern5110
      @kevinmcgovern5110 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because Diemschutz’s cabal stopped due to popular demand in Whitechapel and had accomplished their goals.

  • @svpmusic8140
    @svpmusic8140 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Unfortunately his argument falls apart when only one of the murders happened on a feast day for either the catholic or orthodox church and relies on the fact most people don't know them. And also we know who wrote the letters giving the name Jack the Ripper as Frederick Best a journalist from the Star newspaper confessed to writing them later in his life in 1930.

    • @f.o.c.s.1028
      @f.o.c.s.1028 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Graphology expert Elaine Quigley compared the "Dear Boss" letter with a sample of handwriting of Frederick Best. And both handwritings matched in her expert opinion.

    • @svpmusic8140
      @svpmusic8140 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@f.o.c.s.1028 and the fact he admitted to writing that one too

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@svpmusic8140 He also wrote The Rain Song

  • @denver606
    @denver606 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very interesting.. I watched it twice as well as many other ripper videos. He makes sense of all the loose ends and strange things that nobody else has explained. I buy it whereas I was not convinced by any other single ripper suspect, and there are lots of them, and that is another convincing aspect of his theory. Whereas nobody made much sense or proved even one over another to be more likely, he has shown that these three work out even better and also with a reason other than a madman on the loose. I think he is a highly talented detective and should be given credit over all the other guessers. I wish he had covered Nichols and Chapman, but then out of the 12 he mentioned, they do not stand out other than being two of the accepted five that others claim to be victims. Now as I pit all the other suspects against these three, they pale in. comparison.. Very good job, Mr, Williams

  • @SuperKrampfader
    @SuperKrampfader ปีที่แล้ว +19

    tal doesn't mean man. it means valley. how could he get something like this wrong? he must have never looked it up

  • @ejjojo295
    @ejjojo295 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Richard - Thank you for all the great content and interviews! "Interesting" theory, but seems to be built on supposition more than fact. One factually incorrect statement from Mr. WIlliams is regarding the names of Friedmann and Friedenthal. 16:40 They are two different surnames and they do not mean the same thing in German. The suffix "Mann" in German means "man" in English, but "Thal" means "valley". Neanderthal means Neander Valley...the place in Germany where the first specimen was discovered.

  • @leslierock5005
    @leslierock5005 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great interview i bought his book a few yrs ago.i enjoyed it.he certainly sounds fun to be around randy williams.looking forward to more videos and interviews thank you.

  • @MrBigcoops74
    @MrBigcoops74 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    How the interviewer keeps a straight face is impressive

    • @Eline_Meijer
      @Eline_Meijer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this interview makes more sense than most police theories

  • @brograb898
    @brograb898 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how much effort people put into their hypotheses

  • @Legionmint7091
    @Legionmint7091 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Thank you for sharing Mr. Jones, I appreciate your effort but I’m afraid I don’t buy this theory at all.
    I don’t want to be harsh, but this theory is composed of wild speculations, confirmation bias, illogical leaps and sheer misunderstandings of the political landscape in Europe at the time (which leads to several anachronistic conclusions).
    However, we shouldn’t disregard the possibility of two killers (even though it is quite rare it’s far from unheard of), and that the Whitechapel murderer (most likely) didn’t begin with Mary Ann Nichols, but that he had been guilty of prior attacks, attempted murders, and possibly completed murders, long before that. Serial killers usually escalate, which is something we recognize in “Jack’s” work too. Therefore it’s only reasonable to believe that he had a prior history leading up to the canonical five.
    PS. I find George Hutchinson a far better suspect in the Mary Kelly murder in that case. Just one of many strange things he told the police (that he didn’t come forward with until three days after the murder) was that Mary Kelly’s client allegedly handed Kelly a red handkerchief when she, again allegedly, said she had lost hers. There is no way that Hutchinson could have seen that the handkerchief was red in the darkness of Miller’s Court. All cats are gray in the dark. So are handkerchiefs. The fact that his story simply was too fantastic and that he tried too get involved in the investigation would without a doubt have made him a person of interest by the police today.
    Best regards /Magnus

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree it makes no sense to murder women for political ideas

    • @billmcdermott9647
      @billmcdermott9647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To confirm….you think George H killed Mary but he wasn’t the Ripper?

    • @markchristian3249
      @markchristian3249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George Hutchinson is a very good suspect.

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks for this great interview. Randy Williams certainly has an interesting theory. Much food for thought here!

  • @chrischibnall593
    @chrischibnall593 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    An interesting theory: highly speculative and based on circumstantial evidence, but then, what theory about JTR's identity isn't? I would add the following observations: it has been remarked before that the victim's bodies were "displayed" in a way that seemed calculated to induce the maximum shock in those who discovered them, which adds weight to the idea that the crimes were propagandic in nature. Similarly, it has been suggested that portions of the Thames Torso Murders victims were deposited in the river in a way calculated for them to (hopefully) wash up on the foreshore near the Houses of Parliament, and one torso was placed provocatively in the foundations of New Scotland Yard (possibly by a man with a cart). Robert Paul, second on the scene in the Nichols murder (who may have acted in collusion with Lechmere) seems to have held anti-police and anti-establishment views. Paul and Lechmere were (I thnk) both gentiles, but the ideology of Anarchism had claims to be of universal application, so may have had gentile sympethisers. That Schwartz was chased to the Pinchon Street railway arches was probably just coincidence, but a more interesting coincidence is that when a torso was subsequently found under one of the railway arches, it was noticed that on a fence opposite the arch was a graffito that read "Lipski".

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is not even circumstantial evidence for this theory.

  • @scsimurdoc
    @scsimurdoc ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I took the time to Read Williams' book. You have no idea how deep he dug. He even got hold of the minutes of Diemshutz's club meetings and had them translated. Even if he's wrong, and nobody knows for sure - don't forget that, - the research that this man has undertaken and the evidence he has unearthed is of undeniable importance to the case.
    He is a professional and his theory is as good as any I have heard.
    great video. Thanks for sharing 🙂

    • @wingchun2u
      @wingchun2u ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Agreed. Airtight case

    • @Legionmint7091
      @Legionmint7091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s a huge difference between that isolated facts may check out and sheer speculation to connect the facts into a prefabricated narrative. There is in fact nothing that points to Deimshutz, nor to the the International Polish and Jewish Working Men’s Socialist Club in Berner Street. The implication that Peter Kropotkin was involved merely goes to show that American’s can’t distinguish between Anarchism, Socialism and Communism - particularly at the time of the murders.

    • @hyperstar1867
      @hyperstar1867 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have ordered the book this morning as I enjoyed this interview and try to take advantage of all view points and investigations of the case. Unfortunately not everyone has the same attitude, many latch on to a suspect and won’t let go, and actually get defensive when other theories are submitted.

    • @TheJazzper1970
      @TheJazzper1970 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can agree about the research. However, when it comes to Diemschutz being the ripper we can say he is almost certainly wrong.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm amazed that the minutes of that club survived, especially since (for example) the official records for many of the victims' inquests are lost.

  • @NewMayfair
    @NewMayfair ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, at least now I know who never to hire if I'm looking for a private investigator.

  • @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv
    @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This guy is great and I also for year's had trouble with Lewis deimschutz account of stride and Israel Swartz seeing the two men one with stride and the other chasing Swartz. Made no sense to me the regular account of how people accept that Lewis deimschutz disturbed the killer because if the horse was shying away from a dead body than an active murderer only had one way out past Lewis deimschutz and don't tell me he wouldn't notice someone going past him.

  • @amityvillain
    @amityvillain ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is the most ridiculous theory I've ever heard

    • @billmcdermott9647
      @billmcdermott9647 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You’ve not read the one where it was claimed the elephant man was the Ripper…if you want ridiculous then read. I sat there actually stunned into a type of shock

    • @ronmac9522
      @ronmac9522 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Nearly as bad as the one that Winnie the Pooh is the Jack the Ripper because they have the same middle name.

    • @TiaMargarita
      @TiaMargarita ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ronmac9522😂

    • @TiaMargarita
      @TiaMargarita ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billmcdermott9647. I may have encountered that person in comment sections. I began discussing with them in good faith that they were at the beginning of their JTR journey but their arguments were stubbornly inane. I became convinced that I was being trolled but they seemed so sincere. Honestly I still don’t know if they were trolling or really wanted to make a case for John Merrick. Maddening.

    • @davesmith7432
      @davesmith7432 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Really? Uhhh… ever heard of Sir Willie Gull? Lol

  • @sonjacharles2457
    @sonjacharles2457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pony shying comment is rubbish. I have spent a lifetime around horses. They very often will shy at something unexpected and then calm down straight away and can stand completely still. The blinkers were used to stop them seeing things that would distract or frighten them, thereby giving their driver more control over them in chaotic situations.

  • @FrankieBlueEyes
    @FrankieBlueEyes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This theory would make an entertaining movie but that's about it. Thanks for the interview though, love this channel!

  • @Raventooth
    @Raventooth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you got this video up!

  • @qrufus
    @qrufus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Out of curiosity, I'm going to check out the McCarthy letter video. However, as theories go, this one was confusing. How can so many people be involved and no one get caught? If Diemscutz made a bunch of contradictory statements, why didn't the police look into him further? I would think that they would be keeping track of testimonies at the inquest. Also, if he was Jack (and that's BIG IF), why would he wear something that could identify him (i.e. a big gold chain)?

  • @victorcontreras9138
    @victorcontreras9138 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! He has a number of good accomplishments though his theories seem rather ritualistic. Perhaps they may have some sound reason but I stick more to other suspects. Still, you never know and things can really surprise you. Glad to view your interview with him.

  • @hectorchavez7097
    @hectorchavez7097 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    A very far reaching theory in my own opinion but it will thought out and researched. What I really love is the respect and equality you give to everyone's research and theories. I can imagine someone sharing their suspicion of Donald Duck as the Whitechapel Murderer and you would let them present it in all seriousness and honor their angle for the interview. Most well done. Very inspiring in dealing with anyone in our daily engagements. Bravo!

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hi Hector, stay tuned, I'm working on the Donald Duck theory at the moment!

    • @hectorchavez7097
      @hectorchavez7097 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JackTheRipperTours Haha! I KNEW IT! George Sims was onto something with his "Dr. D"! 😄

    • @andrewtomlinson5237
      @andrewtomlinson5237 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours It's currently at 465 pages on Casebook... it's about bloody time!

    • @theobjectivethinker64
      @theobjectivethinker64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JackTheRipperTours Sorry Donald Duck is innocent it was clearly Bugs Bunny the rascal.

  • @McIntyreBible
    @McIntyreBible ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Randy Williams offers some good food for thought!

  • @otisdylan9532
    @otisdylan9532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me, the worthwhile part of his comments were about his filter system, but I have some questions about it. First, what is required of someone to have been considered in the first place? He said anyone associated with the case, but would that include everyone that some people consider a suspect, even if they have no known association with any of the crimes? Some of what I consider the best suspects are associated with the crimes only in that they lived in the area. Some of these were suspected by the police or the press, others are known to have been insane or murderers.
    Another point is that he said that he tries to prove each suspect innocent. That's a good method to eliminate some suspects, but in the Ripper case, there are a lot of people that can't be proven innocent. I'd be interested to know if he thinks he was able to prove the innocence of any of the major suspects.

    • @normandavidtidiman9918
      @normandavidtidiman9918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard an audible groan from Richard & visualised his eyes rolling when we heard the (admittedly good) filtering system he uses,and then he STILL names the three suspects he claims conspired to commit the murders.

  • @jamiestacey7862
    @jamiestacey7862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive always followed the Ripper theorys and ive always thought that there was more than one suspect who done the murders

  • @Louiseskybunker
    @Louiseskybunker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been addicted to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle these last 2 years, I read where he spoke of Joseph Conrad and oh my god Randy looks like the grandson of Joseph Conrad!

  • @Mr.56Goldtop
    @Mr.56Goldtop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Richard you have such great speaking voice, with accent and every thing you sound very "official" lol! You should be narrating documentaries for the BBC!

  • @3fingerroll
    @3fingerroll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you Richard and Randy , some food for thought

  • @julesdelorme5192
    @julesdelorme5192 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing this. That said, and I rarely outright dismiss theories, this one is just wild and bizarre speculation. My father used to tell me that all men who smoke pipes are idiots who want the world the think they're brilliant. The fact that he's holding the pipe up to be seen so often, strengthens my father's theory. If these were political, conspiracy murders, the mutilations and the rage evidenced by the killer's actions make absolutely no sense. The field is rife with these A + F = Z theories where leaps of illogic are used to connect things that have no business being connected. The very idea he has that Diemschutz could not have interrupted Stride's killer because Schwartz obviously did. Except it is not so obvious that Schwartz interrupted the murder. He fled, and was a foreign visitor who did not speak the language in the very worst district in London, if the not the world at that time. There is no guarantee that what he saw was in fact the killing and there is no guarantee that he was able to accurately see or report anything that took place. He would be considered today a terrible witness and there is nothing to suggest, that if he did in fact witness the killing, that it would in any way interrupted. It was after all happening, or what he saw happening at least was being done in the street. There would have been more witnesses than Schwartz, and people who would attack a woman in the street are hardly likely to stop just because one guy ran away. Not exactly worried about him coming forward. And that is just the small illogical leap at the beginning. It becomes even more fantastical from there. You bring us some wonderful interviews. This one, all of it, should have been left on the cutting room floor. Made so much worse for me that he is a fellow Gung Fu man.

    • @deforeestwright2469
      @deforeestwright2469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I resemble that remark. . . 😂 I smoke a pipe occasionally too, but I don’t think it makes me smart at all. I am less inclined to judge this gentleman on the pipe than on the strength of his arguments. To be fair, most cases against proposed suspects fall pretty flat. I am fond of Mr. Holmgren’s theory about Charles Cross, mainly because it focuses on someone physically connected to one of the murder scenes, rather than “the usual suspects”. This theory has a little of that going for it as well, but no doubt it’s banking a lot on suspicious coincidences. It’s a decent case for the prosecution, but I’m not at all convinced.

  • @Epitaph1334
    @Epitaph1334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent interview, Richard.

  • @davidmoore1477
    @davidmoore1477 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Soooo!
    I would like him to put Lechmere/Cross through his filters and see what he comes up with!

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 ปีที่แล้ว

      Triple Act Now adouble act - it was always the Dave Clark 5 - we live to learn master .

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant as always Mr Jones 🔪🎩

  • @brianbonner7128
    @brianbonner7128 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where was he at the time and on the date of the other murders ??
    This theory is saying that the 3rd murder was done by a different person then the others. There is no evidence to support this hypothesis.

    • @scsimurdoc
      @scsimurdoc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wasn't one man working alone.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scsimurdoc It almost certain that the murders were committed by a "solo" killer. However, it's quite possible that more than one killer was _separately_ responsible for the canonical Ripper murders. Diemschutz might have killed Liz Stride - not that I think he did - but there's a distinct possibility that Liz wasn't a Ripper victim at all.

    • @taranullius9221
      @taranullius9221 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's been people suggesting Stride wasn't actually one of Jack's for a long time. It's inaccurate to say there's no evidence to support this hypothesis either, firstly there is Schwartz seeing 2 people and she's had zero mutilation done. I think this guy's theory is insane but Stride is the most debated victim lol.

    • @taranullius9221
      @taranullius9221 ปีที่แล้ว

      (most debated out of the canonical 5, there's plenty debate about another 2 in addition).

    • @taranullius9221
      @taranullius9221 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ftumschk Right, to me that makes more sense (though I don't agree)...if you claim Diemschutz killed Stride then the most logical extension of that should be Stride wasn't one of Jack's, not that Diemschutz was Jack especially given the differences between her and the other 4.

  • @ronmac9522
    @ronmac9522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy theory is ludicrous.

  • @KingBritish
    @KingBritish ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Richard, can you recommend some books on JTR please. Accurate high quality ones. Thank you.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hi. Yes indeed. I have a list of suggested titles on my website. www.jack-the-ripper.org/books-on-jack-the-ripper.htm

    • @KingBritish
      @KingBritish ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JackTheRipperTours Thank you.

    • @otisdylan9532
      @otisdylan9532 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll add that I've seen the books by Begg et al and by Sugden pretty widely recommended, so probably start with one of those two. The Westcott book is probably very good for what it is, but it has a very specific focus, being about murders that happened before the canonical five murders.

  • @paulwilson3154
    @paulwilson3154 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A sieve holds more water than this

    • @Pauly421
      @Pauly421 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 agreed

  • @bendavies8881
    @bendavies8881 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am instinctively skeptical of any hypothesis, that does not conform to modern criminal profiling. Jack teh Ripper was essentially a bog standard serial killer. Perhaps unusual for the species, in the savagery of the mutilation's, but probably not unusual in any other respect. It was most likely some local nobody, who was sexually aroused by stabbing people, and if he had ever been caught, he would have been a disappointment to all the theorists.

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whether you agree with Randy or not, you have to respect his research, logic and thoughtfulness.

  • @jane.c.c
    @jane.c.c ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating. I'm all open to all theories. The more I hear, the more confused I get cause they all seem to make sense. I must go see this MaCarthy letter now. Thanks for including the link..

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 ปีที่แล้ว

      "they all make sense"??? Really????? Most of them are stupid and moronic The ONLY one with any kind of LEGITIMATE evidence is Aaron Kosminski and even that one is not conclusively proven

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems your open to speculation here say and conspiracy

  • @absonus
    @absonus ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rather fanciful theory in my humble opinion.

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem I have with all the attempts to link the murders to religious or occult symbolism is the nebulous nature of the potential observations. Religious calendars usually have a day for everything. That All Saints Day exists (because there aren't enough days in the year for every saint) ilustates my point. As for pentangles etc 5 points will make them on any map. Im not saying it's impossible but I find it improbable that such things are a factor.

  • @wingchun2u
    @wingchun2u ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Most well thought out in dept explinations I've ever heard on the murders. Yes this seems like some air tight figuring. You really cover all the bases

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You didn't listen to Christer on Lechmere? Far more persuasive than this, with actual circumstantial evidence presented.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lyndoncmp5751 No evidence for Lechmere whatsoever NOTHING!!!!! It is a new and stupid theory

  • @fransiscoscaramanga674
    @fransiscoscaramanga674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i've heard the names, Mann, Kosminsky, Lechmere, HH Holmes.......never ever heard of the name louis diemschulzt...as a ripper suspect.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's because the idea is silly.

    • @ErnaldtheSaxon
      @ErnaldtheSaxon ปีที่แล้ว

      Putin will get the blame soon.

  • @jancoolen6781
    @jancoolen6781 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are people saying this is a crazy theory????!? The guy has good arguments for everything he says. He’s clearly done his research! Respect

    • @detdeet
      @detdeet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don't even truly know for certain that Stride was a victim of the same killer as the others, the M.O. was different, the kind of knife used was different, the location chosen didn't match the other murders since it was near crowded pubs and right next to a club that was still lit and had people clearly inside it singing.
      The only reason Stride appears as one of the Ripper's victims is because of the time-frame of the murder, had it happened before or after the "canonical 4" nobody would've made the association the same way they didn't with Tabram or the Pinchin Torso.
      Secondly the timeframe is too short, if you believe Liz was killed at 1 AM as stated by the witnesses, and the Mitre Square victim at 1:45 AM then it takes at least 15 minutes to get to Mitre Square from Henriques Street, so the Ripper would have less than half an hour to meet someone, take them to Mitre Square, do the job and flee in between the police patrols the latest of which was at 1:30 AM.
      It's not impossible but highly unlikely that he was able to pull off such a double event in such a short amount of time, so Occam's Razor would point to there being two unrelated murders that night and only that of Mitre Square truly the work of the same individual from the others.
      The descriptions given of the man alongside Eddowes also doesn't match any description given by the witnesses of Stride, the man Eddowes was seen with had a red handkerchief knotted around his neck, which would've been noticed by the witnesses of Stride
      The man Eddowes was seen with was claimed to resemble a Sailor, which is slightly beyond this discussion but matches many other clues, which all point to Jack being a Sailor, and if you believe Tabram was the first victim, the man she was last seen with was said to be some kind of soldier or sailor

  • @Frenchblue8
    @Frenchblue8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's like the minute this albeit interesting fellow saw the original documentary with Christer and Andy, he's like okay who else discovered bodies... Odds bodkins! Louie Diemshutz! But yes! But no! But...
    And here we are.
    I wish that we were NOT.
    Good effort but, it's Lechmere

    • @grantadams2156
      @grantadams2156 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 ปีที่แล้ว

      My moneys on Lechmere. Best suspect on the market.

    • @xvrays
      @xvrays ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susanclapp1721 Do a study on Jacob Levy you might change your mind. No pun intended.

  • @norabest321
    @norabest321 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The biggest problem I have with the theory is that not one contemporary person involved (to my knowledge) came up with any motive that was anywhere close to this. If this was some Herculean effort to stick it to the man, deeds worthy of the lives of 5 women, why did no one ever at all in history from the beginning til now come up with anything close to this? Nobody noticed. Here they are doing all this grotesque work to prove a point or insult the religions and no one noticed? So they did all that for nothing. It would be one thing if his theory connected the dots but such a complex theory conceived, researched, and proved (in his opinion) in one big offering makes it difficult to believe. The fantasy of the royal conspiracy is more plausible.

  • @joebykaeby
    @joebykaeby ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This theory would make an excellent novel. It's very DaVinci Code. I think it's interesting to think about, and while I don't mean to say that he presents a bad case, it does seem very romanticized and so much of the theory rests on things that are just way too convienent. Loved the interview, though, and Mr. Williams has earned a lot of my respect even if I don't necessarily buy into his theory.

  • @maudelynn13
    @maudelynn13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No. Nope. Noooo.

  • @Malegys
    @Malegys ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He looks like Billy Bob Thornton wih a Pipe fixation !

  • @22leggedsasquatch
    @22leggedsasquatch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A further blatant point: when a group carry out an act, they then claim it as theirs... and not disappear

  • @theviper1999uk
    @theviper1999uk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This theory feels incredibly illogical and without any application of 'occam's razor'. To me, it makes so many leaps and bounds in judgment that I must dismiss it. That being said, thanks for sharing this theory in depth. It actually helps me see the most likely candidates in better detail. I.e the Kaminsky/Cohen, Kosminski mixup and the other favourite of mine, Charles Cross.

  • @kevinmcgovern5110
    @kevinmcgovern5110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can we also recall Polly Nichols bragged to her last flophouse owner she had a “pretty, new, bonnet” before she went out to Buck’s Row?

  • @herbert9241
    @herbert9241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Compliments on your faculty for booking guests, Richard - an investigation needn't be conclusive to be interesting; in this case a wealth of biographical detail makes it so. I guess that's the art of Victoriana macabre in a nutshell.
    Randy's martial arts experience demonstrates an instinct to get to the heart of a matter. Or verse vicer. Not all lifelong exponents will appreciate this fundamental tenet - but time in a gym or temple is probably well spent in keeping them out of mischief.

  • @louisemerriman1079
    @louisemerriman1079 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thankyou Richard ! Happy New year, very interesting theory I believe there's more victims of JTR , really enjoyed this interview

  • @milesnixon9554
    @milesnixon9554 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the more out there theories, but I'd love to hear more about the members of that club and their other activities. Very difficult for the interviewer to not repeatedly say "Whaaaaat?"

  • @martinwilliams9866
    @martinwilliams9866 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea that killing someone because they're abused seems absurd to me, but admittedly, absurd things do happen.

  • @user-cg4pi5fi9u
    @user-cg4pi5fi9u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant analysis.

  • @TheSavagederek
    @TheSavagederek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry but this is nonsense. We know Mitre square was patrolled every 15 minutes as there were a load of storage facilities there , so a heavy police presence . Them waiting until after Stride was found so the Police would be otherwise busy with her is garbage .

    • @thekitowl
      @thekitowl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus the Mitre square victim had only just been released from the police cells for being drunk, couldn’t possibly have been a pre arranged meeting as this guy surmised.

  • @garyhind1405
    @garyhind1405 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best one out of all series I think and I always had idea that the ripper wasn't one person but at least 2 and that it was about religion it's definitely up there with Bruce Robinson's theory and book they all love Jack

  • @paulguise698
    @paulguise698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hiya Richard, to your knowledge is there any relatives of any of Jack The Ripper victims still alive? maybe the victims had brothers and sisters and they had kids, and maybe they have offspring alive to this day, keep up the good work, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Paul. Yes, there are descendants of Annie Chapman, although they don't really like talking about the connection, and there are descendants of Catherine Eddowes who are more public about the association.

  • @1212matt
    @1212matt ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lechmere theory is much more convincing.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not in the least Its a stupid theory

    • @grantadams2156
      @grantadams2156 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree Lechmere is more convincing.

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grantadams2156 No evidence for Lechmere NOTHING!!!!!

    • @otisdylan9532
      @otisdylan9532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither theory is very convincing.

  • @davidatherton7344
    @davidatherton7344 ปีที่แล้ว

    thoroughly enjoyed this video

  • @DykeVanDick33
    @DykeVanDick33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. I need to relisten to the interview before I decide wether I find this theory credible. Nonetheless, extremely interesting.

  • @cbamr
    @cbamr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is he trying to say that JTR is a feminist? Ha! Interesting theory, but no smoking gun. Only a heavy filter.

    • @deniseelsworth7816
      @deniseelsworth7816 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes he was defending the rights of women by disemboweling them!! So that is why serial killers do it. To defend the exploited the poor and the homeless. I don't know why I hadn't realised before. It's so obvious 🙂

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Strange no theory speculates on a bobby. The bobby PC Neil was down the lane before Cross/Lechmere as well as afterwards . . .

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 ปีที่แล้ว

      more than strange - there is definitely a case to be made against police but Never found one ? - the only peaple it would Never be allowed to be .

  • @theobjectivethinker64
    @theobjectivethinker64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing that has always struck me, is that in my opinion is the possibility taht the murders were not lust driven but were calculated kills for the purpose of organ removal and dissection. Although this theory presented here is most likely way off base, there could be some truth that it was an organised approach and that more people were involved.

  • @igorstein5616
    @igorstein5616 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    No i do not agree on this version

    • @joycebruhn1346
      @joycebruhn1346 ปีที่แล้ว

      many of the men may have slept with these women especially in their the womans younger years i know many cops did off and on duty like they do today .. so again one or two killers or even three killers the women had maybe two to ten customers a day

    • @joycebruhn1346
      @joycebruhn1346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      richard mansfield um life immitating art .. hm but i still think i would say no

    • @joycebruhn1346
      @joycebruhn1346 ปีที่แล้ว

      many false confessions are observed dr thomas neil creme a real typical god complex but by poisoning thats a different form of evil

    • @joycebruhn1346
      @joycebruhn1346 ปีที่แล้ว

      burry a guy whos just a looser thats a freek but i say its ten percent possible

  • @Pauly421
    @Pauly421 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a no from me. One of the worst theories I've heard 😆

  • @amymorgan886
    @amymorgan886 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what a load of nonesense. the motivation alone is absurd.

  • @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv
    @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I have trouble with is marry Ann Cox testimony which she said she had seen a fellow with Mary Jane Kelly enter her the room with her. Who do you think that is?

  • @DisbLB
    @DisbLB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No way

  • @rogerevansen2882
    @rogerevansen2882 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, according to "the six degrees of separation", I'M Jack The Ripper.

  • @stevecrompton9910
    @stevecrompton9910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps one of the most outlandish Ripper theories I have ever heard... but interesting for a movie or novel.

  • @heyokaempath5802
    @heyokaempath5802 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you, Mr. Jones, but I think Randy's version is as unlikely as Stephen Knight's. Occam's Razor.

  • @SuperKrampfader
    @SuperKrampfader ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it is also completely absurd that peter kropotkin would hide the names of the murderers in the letter. i mean look at the video this guy made. it's ridiculous ....

  • @g.pmoore4293
    @g.pmoore4293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To complex a theory. Wouldnt work

  • @alexandermacdougall7873
    @alexandermacdougall7873 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always interested in a0 new theory. Judging by the comments,this one looks to be interesting lol

    • @Pauly421
      @Pauly421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If by "interesting" you mean ridiculous then yes lol.

    • @eroero830
      @eroero830 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pauly421 Not at all! For the first bit where he was talking about the horses it was the most interesting view on the murders and their perspective that I have ever heard in my life, what he said after that seemed to be the opposite.

  • @tech10k14
    @tech10k14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ripper was Lechmere.

    • @ItsSVO
      @ItsSVO ปีที่แล้ว

      The only credible suspect, Because it was him. This wouldn’t be a mystery if it happened today, instead one of the easiest cases to prosecute.

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree, any Investigator should challenge their on theory. Moverover invite others to do the same, I've been rebuked for doing just that, however this does sound very complex and involves multiple suspects. Moreover the aim of it doesn't seem to have worked as nobody has ever mentioned such a plot before....

  • @mikeking3042
    @mikeking3042 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Or... it could have been some nutter!?

  • @bills6093
    @bills6093 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It makes no sense at all for Diemschutz, if he's part of the murder, to return to the crime scene and "find" the body. It is of no benefit to him at all, and will only focus police attention on him.

  • @MEME-qe4ze
    @MEME-qe4ze ปีที่แล้ว +7

    oh dear! lechmere is Jack the Ripper, based on overwhelming fact and circumstantial evidence. it’s highly likely that he is also the Thames Torso Monster

    • @herbert9241
      @herbert9241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Imagine having cool nickname like 'Jack the Ripper' and then being lumbered with the moniker 'Thames Torso Monster'. That's got to be disheartening.

    • @grantadams2156
      @grantadams2156 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree sir

  • @my-mysknitsaloon
    @my-mysknitsaloon ปีที่แล้ว

    Hallo hallo can we please go verticle and then up & down and around & around. And now my mind is blowing away, right ? !

  • @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv
    @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv ปีที่แล้ว

    One must have to think and cannot push it aside is that the police did at one time think a gang of people were responsible

  • @deforeestwright2469
    @deforeestwright2469 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something seems a little scattered here. I don’t see why a Russian anarcho-socialist organization in England would be preoccupied with embarrassing the Catholic Church. Surely in their own country they would have more ire for the Orthodox Church, and in England they would have more ire for the Anglican Church. Miters are worn in all three, and while a Catholic might be familiar with Mary as “Theotokos” it is more typically a title used in the Orthodox Church; it’s Greek not Latin. So yeah, I can buy that Diemshultz was connected with the case, and might have had some involvement in the crime. I can also see that he may have had connections to an anarcho-socialist organization. But I think the attempt to argue that the killings were ultimately done by that organization to advance a political agenda is a little strained. I could see a prosecutor making the case, but I’m not sure the jury would by it.

  • @MORCOPOLO0817
    @MORCOPOLO0817 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "They were all in the hat industry" So, many they had "Mad hatter's disease" which is mercury poisoning.

  • @marshrabbit7565
    @marshrabbit7565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Israel Schwartz needed an interpreter from the International Working Men's Club to give his testimony and yet he testifies to two men working together to harm Stride at a time when the general consensus was that it was one killer. It seems unlikely this Anarchist cabal would help in the process of getting themselves exposed. It's an interesting theory though.
    There's also the issue of the 'jolly bonnet' coming from the testimony of a lodging house keeper who turfed Nichols out, whereas press reports describe her hat as sad and battered.

    • @katfoster845
      @katfoster845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't see a conflict with Annie Chapman's description of a sad, tatty old hat as a jolly bonnet. I think it would have been jolly for her, considering the life she lead. I doubt she'd much experience of truly nice clothing so something that was perhaps only one step up from her usual rags was jolly to her. The other possibility is that Jack destroyed her bonnet when he destroyed her.
      It's all so sad. You can't help but feel for poor Annie and how awful her life was.

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely don’t agree, but I would hang out with this dude just based on the pic of him at the beginning lol

  • @davethomasatemyhamster
    @davethomasatemyhamster ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In Britain we call them blinkers not blinders.

  • @melaniesorensen9998
    @melaniesorensen9998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your premise is your nemesis

  • @gowdsake7103
    @gowdsake7103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm why does he think that the pony shied because of a smell? Horses and ponys shy at bloody stupid unexpected things it SAW something
    The political motive makes no sense at all. murdering women to obtain the supposed ends makes zero sense

    • @otisdylan9532
      @otisdylan9532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. Also, it could be the horse shied because it saw the body at the last minute and didn't want to walk over it.

  • @DF-ee8vt
    @DF-ee8vt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very interesting, plausible theory. This leaves a question about the fresh discovery of Polly Nichols. Did these guys escape through a side street when Lechmere was approaching? And how did they handle Annie Chapman in the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street? His book might explain these details.

    • @adriennewynn6597
      @adriennewynn6597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Robert Paul entered from Baker St and Lechmere was already there. Why is it so hard to believe he was the Ripper and not someone before him. He was already on Bucks Row, he brought the lady to Paul's attention as he tried to take a wide route around him. Both men claimed there was no blood so she was clearly and literally just cut before Paul turned onto Bucks Row. Plus Lechmere lied when he testified at the inquest saying his name was Cross (his former stepfather's name while Lechmere is literally on everything else he ever did) Why?

    • @ErnaldtheSaxon
      @ErnaldtheSaxon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@adriennewynn6597 Nobody in Lechmere,s family knew of his connection to the crime of the century. That's pretty strange to be honest. You would think he would have mentioned it and that would have been passed down through the family.

    • @michaelhemsley1470
      @michaelhemsley1470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you serious!? The BTK serial killer was a married father of two and an active member of his church. Pick up a book for the love of God.

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ErnaldtheSaxon try asking how many if any bit part players remaining families know anything at all either - it's not anything worth leaving to the family .

  • @adriennewynn6597
    @adriennewynn6597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Charles Lechmere was Jack

  • @reginaldlott236
    @reginaldlott236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok so, the idea that he was insane by legal definition and would have been committed to an asylum doesn't jell with modern serial killers. Gacy, Dahmer, Dennis Ryder, Bundy, Gien, and a host of others. I don't think we can say, because a person was committed and is labeled insane that it's evidence of guilt. I'd like to explore the theory that a constable may have been "Leather Apron". Any constable with a history as a butcher or military surgical aid at the time? One that was reported to be abusive to the Whitechapel ladies of the night? One that may have been off duty each night a murder was committed? Any fit that profile?

  • @saucyjack1888
    @saucyjack1888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elizabeth Stride was not even a Ripper victim in my opinion from all the research I have done. That destroys his entire theory.

  • @komradewirelesscaller6716
    @komradewirelesscaller6716 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm well interesting theory. But l thought most people by now already knew that it was actually "Red Jack" from Star Trek!