What Meetings Sound Like to Interns
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I’m gonna put a pin in this comment so I can circle back on it later
Nice. Funny stuff.
100k sub special?!?!?!??!
i freaking love this ahhaa
One question, how much of this did you understand while making the video? Cause this feels similar for me who’s doing upper year stats while in 2nd year as a Data Scientist…
I was going to piggyback off this comment, but let's take it offline.
This was very accurate because I zoned out listening to it just like I would in an actual meeting.
I know someone who really was in the situation where he'd totally switched off... and was suddenly asked for his input. He feigned a headset malfunction and dropped from the call trying to "fix" it.
That's one thing you definitely can't get away with face-to-face.
Listening to this like "scripting down JavaScript into Java", they can't say that. Then i realise, i never heard the meetings properly so it's not out of reach to assume they might have said this too.
I accidentally started listening to it like my job depended on it
I got distracted and switched to another tab like 3 times. Absolutely 100% accurate to what I experienced in actual Zoom calls.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 I've _totally_ zoned out during in-person meetings too. Just admit that you zoned out and ask for a repeat, lol.
I'm a Senior software engineer and switched companies recently. I swear the meeting I just got off from now sounded just like this!
Were you outside on a walk too?
Same. About to start a new gig in a week. Been years on current team, looking forward to some new jargon!
Been SE for 10 yrs now. and just started in a new company just last week. I feel ya 😅
Lmaooo 🤣
So you are junior now
The least realistic part of this was the intern suggesting they change out their whole tech stack on his first day and not being laughed out of the room.
If redis alone is somehow your whole tech stack you've done something incredible.
Nepotism
Or at least getting a "hmm, can you give us a LMC design for how that would work, then a QoSS benchmark for how it would perform at w5 scale"
@@lukesenseney1045 wtf is that
@@farhanaditya2647 Exactly. Just like every company has their own jargon, they have their own design and approval process, which sound like daunting jibberish to an outsider.
I'm a senior SE and I've never heard other engineers talk like this but this is exactly how I feel when the PowerPoint Dudes invite us to a meeting or the CEO makes an announcement.
if the executives aren’t being clear then theres a critical problem in the way the company is handling itself… oof.
😂
@@dukcy7450 I’ve heard of intentional busywork done by execs at some companies. Just bullshit presentations to look like they’re doing something and taking the peacock approach to feudalizing their workplace.
Engineers don't talk like this, but project managers do
The "PowerPoint Dudes" lol
Congratulations on gaining traction on your out-of-the-box videos, and for scaling your channel to 100K subscribers!! Can’t wait to see more distributive, game changing, buzzworthy deliverables in the future - your videos are certainly a value-add to my day 📈
Thanks Natasha!! Your comments are always a value-add to MY DAY 🚀
Not sure if Natasha is a real person or a crypto trading bot.
@@jackharbor3347 Crypto trading engineering bot manager that'll circle back to her comment. ⭕
Yeah, we'll have to circle back on that.
@@jackharbor3347 If his account gets hacked them we know lol
Can we talk about the fact that he thought you needed to physically stand up for a stand up meeting 😂
Edit because everyone is silly: Guess what guys, he’s at home in this video. That’s why it’s funny his character stood up for the stand-up meeting. Yes of course you would probably stand up if you were in the office for a stand-up meeting. It’s really cool that I have to say this 👍🏻
Ah gone were the days where you actually stood up in a board room or the manager's cubicle
@Tranhoang Long Exactly.
You are supposed to stand up! It's a trick to help people remember to keep it short and to the point.
@@lalala-lt8fe good to know! should have been more clear in my comment and mentioned they aren’t in an office lol
@@lalala-lt8fe correct. Scrum meetings i think they're called
This is so spot on. Each day I am at work I realize more and more how many people have no clue what they are doing and they all throw around their fancy "buzz" words. I feel like everyone is playing a big game of pretend for their paychecks.
american psycho shit
The longer this went the wilder it got and the less it made sense 🤣🤣excellent! Also love how he used such abstract words and analogies to symbolise how some tech bros and people be talking so high for such simple meanings or matters.
Let’s not boil the ocean
So in other words, just a normal Scrum, right?
Accurate. I relate to the senior engineer guy.
pan the senior engineer 🙏
When are you guys going to do a collab?
Yeah
Do a collab already you 2! :))))))
From my experience, people who talk like this in meetings, dont really do anything and are really bad at their job. otherwise they wouldn't need to. It breeds a culture of minimalism.
The smartest people I've ever dealt with throughout my past 20 years were always very clear, direct, and as succinct as possible.
The engineering manager was clearly the dude who had no idea what was going on.
That’s because clarity and simplicity is only possible when you know what you’re talking about
Im not even a software intern, just a regular junior software engineer that migrated from a computer hardware career to a computer software one, and this is accurate to a big organization; even after my boss gave me a few topics to research, the infrastructure itself is so complex, that knowing the basics of the tools we use AND how they are used is still not enough. Glad they understand it will take me months, if not a whole year to catch up and consistently contribute to projects with minimal mistakes and help.
So imagine me being an intern, but I don't even know how to develop an API or plan the schema for and database. Just learned those today. Thanks Google.
You'll get there. After a few years these concepts will be as familiar as the back of your hand. You might even get bored, things actuallyyyy don't change that fast in software. The tools might change but the concepts remain the same.
Bro I started this week as a junior SE, it's actually comical how accurate some of this video is. Fortunately, my team seems eager to help me in any way possible.
Just give me time though, I have been grinding for this for years and I just want some feedback from Senior Engineers.
Watching this video and reading the comments especially yours is really relieving. I also just started as a junior software engineer for a huge organization and I have to say I'm currently quite overwhelmed. The infrastructure is really complex as well and it's very difficult for me to get a grasp of the bigger picture. I can't wait to be able to make my first bigger contributions.
Something to help: you'll rarely find people who know how everything works, and even then; they will have the benefit of years of experience
Instead try to talk to as many people in different areas and that use different tools/software to you so you can ask them for advice/or what they need from your department as & when you need them
This way you can build a mental image of how different components interact with each other and what you should be doing in that flow
Also helps you focus on what the most important pieces are to learn
I’m nearing the end of my first year in a computer engineering program with plans to minor in computer science. I’m just wondering what your reasons were for migrating careers and if they are more personal or if they could help me get a better understanding of what I want to do. Thanks.
man stood up for the stand up hahah
🤣🤣🤣
If we were supposed to be sitting, they would have called it “sit down”
100% accurate.
What's even scarier is the first moment when you say something relevant and you're more surprised than anyone else.
Not gonna lie, I would straight up quit if this is how they speak 😂😂😂 I'm a simple guy that uses simple code, I'm a "pretend you're talkig to a five year old" kinda guy 😂😂😂 jargons man
This is how my whole entire team talks like lol
if you can't beat em, join em
fr, there is no point in making everything overly complicated just to sound smarter
@@ngndnd I think it's for job security. If nobody understands your system and nobody wants to talk to you about it, then we have to keep you on.
@@MatroidX you know what Im gonna save that for later
English not being my first lenguague gives this another level of difficulty
I can imagine. Idioms are probably the hardest part of learning a new language
Ikr? My teammates use complex words that sound super professional… meanwhile all i can say is ‘that sounds good…perfect..ill look into that’
As key team member who's involved in many meetings like this one, it's crazy how a bunch of jargon actually sounds soo coherent and simple once you're used to it and you're really involved in all the moving parts. Feels good man. Im sure every intern will reach this stage soon enough.
Yeah... This however doesn't make any sense
Some jargon just dont need to be use though lol it confuses people more if they dont understand. Some people overuse and waters down the importance of certain jargon.
Bruh
Bruh
congrats
Love this, also reminded me of my daily stand-up
-Hey so how's your project's going ?
-Everything is fucked but we should hit deadline easily.
-Alright good, let us know if you need anything.
I swear I have been at such meetings, where extern people talk like this when no one from the company they work for is actually present.
Every stand up I've ever had lmao
One day I'm just going to say, "Oh perfect, you're offering a hand? I need 5 people from your office transferred to ours so we can get this done."
Every single one!
"So how's the project going?"
"Well, we've got a bunch of tasks and all of them have blockers due to authorizations and unclear requirements from functional design because the consultant seems to be winging it"
"As long as the client is aware"
"They sure are"
"Alright, good. Let me know if I you nerd any help"
loll yup
I'm not even in the tech field, but this video was SO accurate to my experience as an intern! 🤣Well done Nick!
There's almost always someone who isn't at their desk or is out and about somewhere else. The walk is so accurate.
Honestly one of the most frightening things about going into software development was I didn't understand a lot of the terms, which made me doubt my own ability, even though they were all for concepts I either already knew or could grasp easily.
oh my god the cinematography and acting are leveling the fk up
I’m tryna get like YOU
last week was my first week as a newly hired QA engineer; i spend a GOOD amount of time in the Zoom chat asking for acronym definitions. oddly enough the 'explainer' meetings with my boss are a lot faster thus harder to follow than my team's stand ups / stand downs. i cackled at the descending standing desk, best ad placement ever, 'no blockers.'
The place where I interned at had a company-wide acronym database with its own dedicated search engine...
@@kigamezero8636 I'll bring this up next sprint. (人´∩｀)
The place I'm working at they couldn't even explain some acronyms to me because they weren't sure what they stood for themselves so that's a fantastic learning experience
As a Data Scientist, this is exactly how I hear conversations when I sit in with the software engineers on my team lol
As a CS university senior, this is how I felt during my elective in media/design. Got thrown into a room of smooth-talking thesaurus-swinging design students that had the prettiest effin‘ PowerPoint presentation slides I have seen to this date but man was I longing for the simple rational straight-forwardness of my fellow CS people.
I should‘ve set a counter for how often they said the same abstract English* words to sound ~cool~.
(*the class itself was held in German)
what were some words
I suggest being less dismissive towards other people of other "cultures". Not everyone likes the direct and upfront way of Maths, Computer Science etc. And that's okay. The key is to be able to adapt and interpret what different people say in different ways
@@julianw1010 absolutely, live and let live. maybe you're reading a little too much into this here? they have their ways of working and producing exceptional results and we have ours
"Scripting down Javascript into Java" 🤣🤣
That is so SPOT ON! I have just completed my first week as an intern and oh boy I feel it!
I am so happy though, for two years now I've been waiting for this moment!
CONGRATS
Well done man/girl
@@keifer7813 man, ty
Congrats! I'm on my 4th week as an intern and i'm still pretty lost with all the acronyms they throw around in my meetings.
Just joined my first company as an intern 3 weeks ago and it just so relatable.
Thanks for putting this out as i thought i am dumb for not understanding what they are talking about.
Almost every field that requires a serious education has its own jargon and "special language" to make things sound more professional and complicated than they actually are. Its like when your dentist says "please hand me an explorer" it sounds a lot more professional and interesting than "I need a pick".
When the dentist asks for an explorer or something else, it's because there will be a specific tool he's asking for, whereas 'pick' is ambiguous and could refer to any number of tools. That's why he'd use jargon, not because it makes it sound more complicated or professional, surely.
Totally with you regarding business speak though, that IS entirely to make things seem more complicated than it is
I was actually trying to understand this.
I hear they’ll be doing a deep dive on it so maybe touch base with them so you can hit the ground jogging yeah?
@@nicholast 404
@@mons_on_motorcycles 500 would be the relevant error here. 404 is for 'not found' which does not make any sense in this context.
@@kanishk9490 404 could make sense - if they ran away to save themself, they would be “not found”
This is so true. All the abbreviations and terms from a paper that no one else knows as well as the vague description because they don't know exactly what they are talking about is spot on. I also like how the intern likely misheards some words into words that make sense to him and then thoughts trail around that for awhile.
Your go to market strategy really hit the mark with these deliverables. You'll meet those OKRs if you stay in the zone and keep delivering to the customer with a regular cadence of these high quality comms.
What
Lol this sentence makes me want to barf
Is he saying that this content is good and his channel deserves more attention ?🤔
👁️👄👁️
And the intern saves us time! that transition was really well done!
intern should get promoted to senior engineer
This is exactly how it feels when you are invited to meetings with national/ international company workers and you're relatively new. Not even in tech industry but know exactly how this feels, like you've walked into the wrong classroom and they're all using slang.
Been in corporate too long when this actually made some amount of sense...
oh, you really captured that. i love it when they put emphasis on some word and it feels like it's important and you should know it. but then you think too much about it and don't hear the rest of the sentence
ah yes Q5, my favorite time of the year
I've been a software engineering intern for 7months and I still haven't got a clue what's going on besides my tasks. Got 5monts left at this point I'm like why even bother.
Nick, Waiting to see the 100K mark bro.
Why even bother? M8, you’re allowed to be wrong and curious. Ask as many questions as you can. I learned the most during internships.
Sorry but you've got the wrong attitude man, but I see where you're coming from
Why are you doing a year long internship? Isn't this basically a job?
(I still haven't got a clue what's going on besides my tasks) I can trump that. I started with a s/w co in Sunnyvale, CA. They paid me $90K. I was there a month and half before I found out what the product actually did. Never mentioned at interview. Turned out to be an EAI server.
@@JSCHM Not sure what country OP is in, but in the UK, you can do a 12 month placement/internship that counts as a year of your undergrad degree. I think it's called a sandwich year in Europe. US doesn't have the concept, and idk about anywhere else.
MBRLLA INTERNS LET'S GOOO
Also this video quality popped off, this must have taken an insane amount of hours to make. Congrats on almost 100k subs!!
EDIT: YOU DID IT, 100K SUBS!!
THANKS MINNIE 🎉
@@nicholast oh you must be waiting for that 100k so hard! I'd be refreshing every two minutes!
Gotta get that silver button am I right? (;
I'm in this stage at the moment......the most relatable thing I have seen in the past few days
Send this video to your team 😳
I dare u to sent this to your Team
Lol so am I!
Cool !!! this army is an engineer
Seeing him physically stand made me so happy. Gone are those days...
I still stand for all of my meetings, actually (at home). Best practice ever--good to stand and if your legs start getting tired you know the meeting has gone on for way too long.
This is amazing, I've not laughed so hard at such a skit in a long time
Glad you liked it :)
I even asked my mentor what are KPIs, and he responded with “idk, but it’s important measure for managers“
Bruh. Ain't this too accurate 😂 I'm a consultant who can't keep up with these jargons all the while taking notes so I can use them in the next meetings lol
it was nice meeting you Nicholas, and your parents! these videos are great!
I got my first full time job as a software developer three weeks ago. This sounds exactly like our daily meetings to me. :D Maybe I should throw redis into the ring... Great video! :D
why is the senior engineer always out for a walk?
It’s good for the code
Can confirm, except I usually go for a run 😁
This video is hilariously spot on and very well made! I instantly had to share it with my LinkedIn followers. Well done! 😃
Love the hands gestures, and this is 100% accurate
This man is going places. I love the content! Keep up the good work my friend!
Glad you like it :)
100% accurate. I'll never forget when an AWS consultant gave me a "brief breakdown" of CDK. I almost cried
I wish you would make more videos like this. Pure gold, and so accurate
Really nice how you integrated the redis ad there :D first time I didn't skip over a skippable ad
lets goo
Not just to interns, to new employees too!
Now make it new interns 😳
So true
I just got my first Software Engineer position last month, and I'm amazed that none of the jargon has gone over my head. Now, if I could just get a solid grasp on the codebase.
Man, you’re a creative genius! You totally got me hooked.
I just watched a 5 minute ad and loved it.
having attended my first few weeks of meetings recently this feels really accurate
Great video! There's a lot of attention to detail. Well done
appreciate it :)
The most beautifully put together relevant advert I've ever seen
I've been rotated to a new team each year, starting with an app team then platform and now security, and I've experienced this very frequently as a result. Especially with the platform team, it felt like they'd start using new keywords and AWS systems every time I started to get what people were saying. And my other required (non-technical) training didn't give me much time to learn either.
I was able to learn what I needed for my tasks, but it definitely felt like being thrown into the deep end.
I had the same face the whole time as the 'intern' lol!
The OQT (One Quick Thing) Rule: The first time someone tries to end a meeting, that meeting is at most 70% of the way through its true duration.
That was the best add placement I've seen in a long time.
Smoothest ad read I've seen on while!
Dude 😂 you wouldn’t believe how close this hits to home! Good work!
Thanks NICK
This is so true 😂😂😂 except for the random things like macroservice 😂
Mom calling as soon as meeting is over happens with me almost always 💯😂
That was the most seamless transition to an advertisement i have ever seen.
That ad transition was pure genius
Fairly accurate - depends on the client/business and how many people in the room want to baffle you with bullshit, or technobabble (the best senior techies are able to talk in a way that functional or BAU resources can also understand without going full geek, to the point that they need an interpreter. They also tend to have been around long enough to know the value of doing this - actually getting decisions made and achieving the aims of the meeting).
I'd say the only thing this missed is at least one person saying "sorry could you repeat that last one, you broke up" - because they've realised they've been asked a question and haven't been listening to any of the chat, because they've been browsing Reddit on their second monitor 😆
The fact that this DOESNT sound that crazy to me makes me feel like I have been in too many of these meetings…
I recently had a short term assignment at a tech startup. Even though I was only there for a specific task and through a staffing agency, they still wanted me to attend all of their various meetings. This is exactly what it all sounded like to me.
The deadline of “Q5” SLAYED ME 🤣
This was at least my first one or two months in data engineering after my comp sci degree.
I love how consistently Senior Engineer is always hanging out somewhere
I have to give u credit for the way u introduced the sponsor, I watched it all as a reward
Videos like this make me happy that I work for myself.
If you’re doing remote, walking meetings might be better than stand up meetings if you’re covering very high level material. Even very moderate physical exercise can affect how people think about problems. Standing meetings are kind of a weird middle ground.
Almost at 100k subscribers, good luck! :D
Congrats my friend 100K!!!! 👏
Good shit man, you've really ramped up the production value. 100k subscribers in like a year is some inspiring stuff!
Appreciate it!!
I understood 95% of what was being said.... I'm reevaluating my life decisions up to this point.
You should be, because more than half of it was literally just nonsense.
@@theclockworkcadaver7025 Making sense out of non sensical meetings is a core software engineering skill :)
Same man.
@@tiagogferreira Pretending to understand things that are deliberately crafted to not mean anything makes you pretentious.
Gotta love the random acronyms they throw in
Love the lead to a Native Ad, nice work!
My dad was on a work call during covid and I wanted to listen to what his meetings sounded like and this is exactly what he sounded like.
Starting a new job is like starting a new show at season 5
This is also how it sounds when you're moving from a small company to large web-scale company :)
Daaaaang that ad transition smoooth af.
This is 100% reality, kudos mate!
There should be an ELI5 documentation for interns and freshers.
There’s always should. It’s always out of date
Always rushing to get things shipped. No one has the time to spend 2-3% of the time to update documentation
How long have you worked on the script , it’s just amazing :D
A little too long 😂
There was a thread on Reddit last week that criticized a bunch of this corporate jargon. Maybe it inspired this.
@@marzoval9551 heh I filmed this a few weeks ago but I did see that thread
@@marzoval9551 can you share link?
Leaving a comment in case a link was given.
My man with the smooth af redis plug
Wow, best way I’ve seen someone put an sponsored ad in the video! Seamless
I've been in my position as a software developer intern for a week now, with very minimal knowledge of the field and fresh out of the accounting field, and this is SO ACCURATE! 🤣 I actually find it so fascinating listening to them all talk in the meeting, but my word I am so lost!
Love to see so many feel the same way! 😍
loll hahah im so scared now as a undergraduate student
@@amlgoh5810 don’t be, you don’t have high expectations as an intern. You are there to learn.
how far were you in the accounting field before you made the switch to software?
Keep it up and don't stress too hard. Just be enthusiastic and eager to learn. Take notes in whatever way is helpful for you so you're not asking your Senior engineers the same question multiple times. During an internship you may not be doing much, but the important thing is that you try to make something out of it.
You're not just doing a trial run of software development, you're doing a trial run of how it feels to work a 9-5 consistently for a whole summer, working norms, commutes (if you're in person), office dynamics etc.
As an intern, I approve of this.
Love how in daily stand-up, they are all standing up
I’m not an engineer, but I can totally relate to this, especially working from home for the past 2 years. Nice job.
I just started an internship as a network engineer and this is exactly how I feel. I just make sure to ask a lot of questions, lol.
This is like one of those “what english sounds like to non-english speakers videos” 😂
That Redis ad placement was HELLA SMOOTH - but I was still laughing the whole time, this video is awesome!
Almost nailed it! You just need about 5x as many acronyms :) Just started a new job this week and all meetings/slack sound like this.