I think the reason she read it that way is that she hasn't spent a lifetime communicating with people through text, email, the internet. We all take that shorthand for granted and wouldn't read it out that way, but Ellie has no background on how people used to talk through rapid non-verbal communication.
_I leave you all of my weapons and equipment. Use them to keep Tess safe, and if you and she decide you're staying the night, I recommend pairing some rabbit with a nice bottle of Bordello._
It's cute and endearing, but it's not canon to Bill's full letter, the one that's going around the Internet. "... if you decide that you've had enough, I recommend pairing 40 Vicodins with a nice Brunello [a kind of wine]". This is how Bill and Frank went out, and, I think, more faithful to Bill's dark sense of humour.
I like to think a big reason Bill decided to join Frank (besides him not going on living without his purpose) is that he _knew_ Joel and Tess were going to check on them and he was completely at peace with leaving *EVERYTHING* to them. Probably believed they'd move in, probably hoped, so that all the work and resources there aren't lost.
Use them to keep Tess safe. Gosh that bit broke Joel 💔 was such a sad ending not because Bill and Frank died but because Bill succeeded in protecting and keeping Frank safe and Joel knew he had failed by not doing the same with Tess.
@@colin8696908 True, but with Joel saying that Bill and Frank's location being remote from FEDRA and possibly a couple of stray infected stragglers, I would assume only Raiders and looters who wanted to steal would've actually wanted to steal/loot
Its not just the fact Tess is dead and he failed her, but also Bill and Frank being dead too. Two friends he was counting on and now Joel is left alone with a girl, a duty and responsibility to deliver her to some unknown lab to develop a cure that we have not idea whether it would work
"Shit our character needs a car off these two gay plot devices! maybe we should create.... TWO ENTIRE LIVING BREATHING HUMANS IN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL RELATIONSHIP EVER SEEN ON TV!"
@@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989hey that gay stuff hits different. It was done so tasteful. This is actually how real gay people act not all extra and shit
@@kingcamelot1395 i would have saved her. But i wouldn't have slaughtered the doctor and Marlene. She was begging for her life and Joel smoked her like it was nothing. I can't defend him. And he got the death he deserved. A true villains death. Felt no sympathy at all when he died. Sure I felt sad for Ellie but that's it.
@@kingcamelot1395 yeah because Joel couldn't see the big picture. Did you forget that she knew Ellie longer than Joel. She literally promised her mother to keep her safe. you think she wasn't hurt over the fact that Ellie had to die? In last of us part 2 you can literally see how conflicted she is over the fact that Ellie has to die. They had a chance (a small chance) to create a vaccine. Even if it's a small chance a great leader makes that decision for the greater good every single day of the week. Especially in those circumstances. Again i understand Joel but he was wrong on so many levels. And that's why he died the way he did. He did not deserve a heroes death. Imo his death was perfect.
For those who are curious, this is what the rest of the letter said after Joel took it from Ellie (I looked it up and it shows the full letter): "Use them to keep Tess safe, until such time as you and she decide you've had enough. At that point, I recommend pairing 40 Vicodins with a nice Brunello." -Bill
Another detail that some people might've missed is with Bill and Frank's last meal with the bottle already having pills inside of it, the extra pills that Bill crushed up and mixed into Frank's wine would make him pass away/fall asleep sooner than Bill who just drank the wine with the pills already in it, so Frank's last request of falling asleep first in Bill's arms probably happened as well
Kinda wished Ellie also read the part where it said, "do not make a mistake, or you will also get blown to shit. I am not joking. Don't fuck that up heh heh heh."
1:22 is also great foreshadowing for part ll/season 2(if you know you know, I won't spoil). They probably had this scene cut this way for a nice parallel in the future.
@@festarii Okay so here's my in-depth thoughts process of this; spoilers for The Last Of Us Part II: The room is reminiscent of the first floor of Joel's house in Tommy's camp. We see this room when Ellie is rummaging through Joel's property, specifically when Maria calls down Ellie to try and stop her from going through with her revenge plot. Of course this scene is not within Joel's house, but it draws a lot of parallels with his house in-game, so I wonder if it was intentional, possibly setting up parallels for the following season(s).
I love subtle details of scenes in movies and TV. I’m not always right in my assessment. It’s very obvious that there is thick dust everywhere, but the trail left in the dust when she slid the key across the table, really drove the point home. I think that was no accident.
I love the game and I love this show. However, the one thing that I was disappointed in was that we never got to see Bill and Ellie interact in the show. The complete polar opposites they were made for some truly entertaining moments. In any case, god bless this game, this show, and this episode
Though it is sad that the show does not have the interaction Ellie and Bill have like in the game, at least Ellie reading Bill’s letter has that semblance of her connecting to Bill.
Even though the scene and monologue is just being read off of a letter, Bella Ramsey performs this monologue SO well. I love it so much. I can't wait to see more of them in Season 2.
Bit of a dick move for Bill and Frank not to at least push the bottle off the table before going to bed, if I was Joel I'd be like "hell yeah, free wine" and die lol
@@chanteng1892 and one of the earliest acts early humans did was bash their neighbors head in and drag their women into a cave.....so Imma go on a limb and say you think rape should be legal, you fucking weirdo.
It was more of a forced gay character insert even though they supposedly make up 5% of the population, they have to be 25-50% of all TV characters. And then making him a low-key gay dude who is conservative and a survivalist is a taunt at conservative white males, by leftists, basically saying "haha you're actually secretly gay, and that's a bad thing you should be ashamed of" which is the opposite of what the left preaches to their own demographic, making them hypocrites.
The realized Joel needed a car, so they created the greatest love story on television, beginning to end, got Joel the car and then had him crash it literally the next day
I love what they did to their story. I love the game and played It so many times before this came out and this was so amazing to see. They got a happy ending in the Show.
Because the window was open in Frank and Bill's room, there was draft. The door slamming shut prevented Joel from forcing the bedroom door open and thus made sure Bill's wishes were granted. I guess.
No, it’s just the draft from window caused a cross breeze and slammed the door shut. But yeah, there’s some symbolism there, too. I love how beautifully this was filmed.
The letter was hilarious and hit me hard in the end. As much as I love Ellie and Bill’s banter in the game, the way the writers treated this character in the show was phenomenal
"The bunker code is the same as the gate code but in reverse" That's actually a pretty smart way to make sure that Joel is the only one who can access the bunker after Bill and Frank are dead, besides them, he and Tess are the only ones who know the gate code.
It’s very nice to know Bill and Joel were on good terms with each other when Bill and Frank passed away, in the game Bill and Joel were barely on good terms with each other and they were just associates and had debts to owe to each other, nothing more than that and once Bill got Joel the car, they had nothing to do with each other afterwards and it’s also good to know Bill and Frank were also on good terms and died together unlike the game when they weren’t on good terms at all when Frank died, Frank wanted more from life than Bills shitty little town but I don’t know what he expected because Bill was the only one who could protect him and the world literally ended and he got bitten, wrote a hate note and suicide note before he took his life! I’m also glad to see Lincoln isn’t as overrun here in the series unlike the game where have the town was overrun but Bill still managed and booby trapped the town, Lincoln was literally so clean here but I was a little disappointed there wasn’t as much action in Lincoln here like there was in the game!
on a practical level, how would they carry all of them? this isn't a video game, there's no real life way for a person to comfortably, safely, and quietly carry multiple semi-auto and auto and hunting rifles, shotguns, pistols, a bow, and all the necessary ammo for all of them.
For real, where do I get their flashlights? I see them all the time in the Uncharted games, as well as The Last of Us, but did not think they were real. Now that they're seen in the show, I now know they're real
The show had way more emotion in it, and that says alot because the game had emotion as well, take Sam and Henry for example in the game 😢, that shit still shocks me to this day bro.
They’re both old. Frank is ill and told Bill to give him A LOT of pills in his wine so he can pass on his sleep. Bill gave them BOTH the pills so they can pass together.
Heard somebody, probably just in an attempt to be homophobic, say this episode didn’t push the narrative forward. They obviously didn’t understand this scene. Joel failed to keep Tess safe the way Bill did Frank, this isn’t just heartbreaking it adds to Joel’s determination to keep Ellie safe. You know when Joel was doing what he did at the end of the season, he was doing it thinking his job and purpose for still being alive was just to protect Ellie and fuck anybody in his way, guilty or otherwise. Excellent writing and a fantastic change from the source material
For as great as this episode otherwise was, it's a bit disappointing that the letter's text was so lacking in subtlety. Otherwise a fantastic episode. Even if it didn't have much to do with the overarching story, it's still my favorite from the show so far
@@reaverfang377 The letter is just very out of character for Bill is what I'm saying. It's lacking in the subtlety that he's known for. He's a man of action, not words. I can get behind the concept of him writing a short note like "take what you need and don't open the bedroom door." But this emotional essay the writers gave him is just indicative of a lapse in judgment during the writing process
I'll be honest i feel the Episode was mostly to answer what happened to Bill after Ellie and Joel left. Which tbh i actually like this alot. I DEFITNALLY would've like to see bill come back but tbh this fate is quite nice:)
@@YeetusMingus bruh, you missed the point. Frank changed him as a person but still possessed his blunt honesty. Plainly expressing himself in ways Game Bill never got to. It's a plot device the show is using to show the audience, the vast majority of which never played the games. So either you need media literacy class or you are fishing for reasons to hate this piece of media.
@@reaverfang377 You don't need to stoop to false hyperbole to try and make a point; I don't hate the show or even this episode. I just didn't think the letter was executed in a way that did justice to Bill's character, which I stand by. Neither in the show or the game, is it ever hinted that there is any fondness Bill has for Joel or Tess beyond some degree of professional respect; the letter makes no sense given the "relationship" they had.
I don’t get it why didn’t Joel and Ellie didn’t make that place their home? it’s safe and isolated, nowhere near the infected. You could literally make that place a little small town full of people to safely live the rest of their lives
@@SolaireKnightusIt wouldn’t have made sense for them to travel all the way back across the country, with all the danger that entailed, rather than go back to live with Tommy and his community. Besides, why live alone when you can live with other people who’ve already created a community?
"Anyone else would've been electrocuted or blown up by one of my traps Hehehehehehehe" that gets me every single time lmao. Ellie is too adorable.
I came to write almost word for word this exact thing hehehehehehehehehe 😂
Her delivery of that line is so good too
It's funny how she winds up with a similar opinion of Bill as she does in the game even though she never meets him here. She's still like "weird guy".
I think the reason she read it that way is that she hasn't spent a lifetime communicating with people through text, email, the internet. We all take that shorthand for granted and wouldn't read it out that way, but Ellie has no background on how people used to talk through rapid non-verbal communication.
_I leave you all of my weapons and equipment. Use them to keep Tess safe, and if you and she decide you're staying the night, I recommend pairing some rabbit with a nice bottle of Bordello._
Thank you
It's cute and endearing, but it's not canon to Bill's full letter, the one that's going around the Internet. "... if you decide that you've had enough, I recommend pairing 40 Vicodins with a nice Brunello [a kind of wine]". This is how Bill and Frank went out, and, I think, more faithful to Bill's dark sense of humour.
Bill chuckling at the idea of his fences frying people even after he was dead is hilarious.
I like to think a big reason Bill decided to join Frank (besides him not going on living without his purpose) is that he _knew_ Joel and Tess were going to check on them and he was completely at peace with leaving *EVERYTHING* to them. Probably believed they'd move in, probably hoped, so that all the work and resources there aren't lost.
Anyone else thinks this transition from Ellie playing the piano to actual soundtrack was incredible?
I also noticed that. Really great.
Wow! That is an amazing transition.
Anyone known name of soundtrack here 4:11
@@gerud0link36 allowed to be happy from the soundtrack of tlou 2
Didn’t even realize it that’s awesome
Just realizing this was probably Ellie’s first time in a real house. Like an actual home from the world before the outbreak.
You have a good point but I think it’s also plausible to think that the duo has looted a house or two during their way from Boston to the house
“What the fuuuuck…”
@@louiekim824 Yea but its clean unlike all the other houses which are overgrown with plants and broken down
I think you’re right. It also kind of foreshadows the farmhouse she’s gonna have with Dina
"I never liked you"
Btw "here are all my guns and supplies"
If that is not "we are buddies" in doomstay prepper language. I dont know what is.
Hearing Bill tell Joel "god help every mother@#$%er who stands in our way" knowing what Joel does to save Elle is masterful.
I loved this moment because it added in another trigger to Joel's eventual choice in the finale.
Use them to keep Tess safe. Gosh that bit broke Joel 💔 was such a sad ending not because Bill and Frank died but because Bill succeeded in protecting and keeping Frank safe and Joel knew he had failed by not doing the same with Tess.
I think it's sad that he left the place booby trapped, I wonder how many travelers ended up dead as a result.
And his own daughter. He keeps trying to protect people and failing, i feel like that failure just builds overtime
Yeah which makes it even more important for Joel to protect Ellie moving forward
@@colin8696908 True, but with Joel saying that Bill and Frank's location being remote from FEDRA and possibly a couple of stray infected stragglers, I would assume only Raiders and looters who wanted to steal would've actually wanted to steal/loot
Its not just the fact Tess is dead and he failed her, but also Bill and Frank being dead too. Two friends he was counting on and now Joel is left alone with a girl, a duty and responsibility to deliver her to some unknown lab to develop a cure that we have not idea whether it would work
HBO really was like "Alright Joel needs a car, so let's drop our entire company's magnum opus."
"Shit our character needs a car off these two gay plot devices! maybe we should create....
TWO ENTIRE LIVING BREATHING HUMANS IN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL RELATIONSHIP EVER SEEN ON TV!"
shit joel needs a car well.. time to make the best episode of this entire series
@@JL-fv6hi yeah no it's a fact their relationship made Titanic look pretty weak in comparison 😂
@@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989hey that gay stuff hits different. It was done so tasteful. This is actually how real gay people act not all extra and shit
@@salvadorlucero1034That's just simply not true. 💀
The "God help and of the motherfuckers that stand in our way" line is so cold. Especially the way Ellie reads it.
Foreshadowing the last episode
3:14 he couldn’t save Sarah, he couldn’t save Tess, but he WILL save Ellie
The most selfish decision in history. Karma caught up to him tho.
@@bigpoppa3999 Yes, it was selfish. But if you say that you wouldn't do the same if it was your kid, you're either lying or your nuts.
@@kingcamelot1395 i would have saved her. But i wouldn't have slaughtered the doctor and Marlene. She was begging for her life and Joel smoked her like it was nothing. I can't defend him. And he got the death he deserved. A true villains death. Felt no sympathy at all when he died. Sure I felt sad for Ellie but that's it.
@@bigpoppa3999 You have to understand. As long as Marlene lived, she would've tracked them down to the ends of the earth to get Ellie back.
@@kingcamelot1395 yeah because Joel couldn't see the big picture. Did you forget that she knew Ellie longer than Joel. She literally promised her mother to keep her safe. you think she wasn't hurt over the fact that Ellie had to die? In last of us part 2 you can literally see how conflicted she is over the fact that Ellie has to die. They had a chance (a small chance) to create a vaccine. Even if it's a small chance a great leader makes that decision for the greater good every single day of the week. Especially in those circumstances. Again i understand Joel but he was wrong on so many levels. And that's why he died the way he did. He did not deserve a heroes death. Imo his death was perfect.
For those who are curious, this is what the rest of the letter said after Joel took it from Ellie (I looked it up and it shows the full letter):
"Use them to keep Tess safe, until such time as you and she decide you've had enough. At that point, I recommend pairing 40 Vicodins with a nice Brunello."
-Bill
Yikes.
Dark. But practical
Another detail that some people might've missed is with Bill and Frank's last meal with the bottle already having pills inside of it, the extra pills that Bill crushed up and mixed into Frank's wine would make him pass away/fall asleep sooner than Bill who just drank the wine with the pills already in it, so Frank's last request of falling asleep first in Bill's arms probably happened as well
Kinda wished Ellie also read the part where it said, "do not make a mistake, or you will also get blown to shit. I am not joking. Don't fuck that up heh heh heh."
*noted*
Today. Today is the day that Bill and Frank died. August 29th, 2023. It was a Tuesday.
I am gonna go and cry now, thank you.
😢
I can kind of remember on that day of august 29, 2023, I was legit crying, no joke
I got choked up for the first time ever after he read Bills’s letter
I couldn't stop crying for 2 hours after Ellie read it
Clowns. Talk about over exaggeration.
3:26 excellent foreshadowing of whats to come towards the end of the series
1:22 is also great foreshadowing for part ll/season 2(if you know you know, I won't spoil). They probably had this scene cut this way for a nice parallel in the future.
OMG yes. The second he paused when being taken down the stairs you knew shit was about to get REAAAAL bad for those motherfuckers.
what do you mean? what scene is that?@@thatshogunpanda893
@@festarii Okay so here's my in-depth thoughts process of this; spoilers for The Last Of Us Part II:
The room is reminiscent of the first floor of Joel's house in Tommy's camp. We see this room when Ellie is rummaging through Joel's property, specifically when Maria calls down Ellie to try and stop her from going through with her revenge plot. Of course this scene is not within Joel's house, but it draws a lot of parallels with his house in-game, so I wonder if it was intentional, possibly setting up parallels for the following season(s).
@@thatshogunpanda893 oo this is so nice, i dint notice that
Bill still had power. Incredible.
2:35 The way she read that though...🤣
Imagine him laughing like that tho
It’s the moment she became Ellie for me
The "hehehehehe" and the way she looks at him, it was doest it for me.
What an incredible episode.
This show is so well done.
the detail of the dust on the table is unreal
August 29, 2023. RIP Bill and Frank
I love subtle details of scenes in movies and TV. I’m not always right in my assessment. It’s very obvious that there is thick dust everywhere, but the trail left in the dust when she slid the key across the table, really drove the point home. I think that was no accident.
Who else read “hehehehe” part with Ron Swanson’s giggle?
I love the game and I love this show. However, the one thing that I was disappointed in was that we never got to see Bill and Ellie interact in the show. The complete polar opposites they were made for some truly entertaining moments.
In any case, god bless this game, this show, and this episode
They literally show them interact in a flashback 😂
@@BR-ec7uyreading comprehension go brrrr
@@iml8465we still use “go brrr” in 2024?🤢
This episode made me cry and that's no easy feat.
🧢
I mean I gueeess.
Joel was mourn....sad....and disappointed......but he doesn't cry.....maybe there's no a drop left from him....
He never thought that he would mourn Bill
Obligatorily here to pay respects to Bill and Frank today
Though it is sad that the show does not have the interaction Ellie and Bill have like in the game, at least Ellie reading Bill’s letter has that semblance of her connecting to Bill.
Didn’t even notice the first time watching that the front door closed when Joel opened the bedroom door because of the draft
Even though the scene and monologue is just being read off of a letter, Bella Ramsey performs this monologue SO well. I love it so much. I can't wait to see more of them in Season 2.
From what I can tel from these short scenes, they nailed this show. I’ll have to start watching
Todays the day. August 29 2023. R.I.P Bill and Frank. 😢😢
Everyone else was surviving, Bill and Frank lived
I love how the song playing when he walks outside demonstrates how he’s letting it sink in that they’re dead and then reminiscing.
They need to make a game about this.
Ellie laughing was the best. It made me smile in this sad moment 😊. Joel walking out. Heart wreching 😢.
Bit of a dick move for Bill and Frank not to at least push the bottle off the table before going to bed, if I was Joel I'd be like "hell yeah, free wine" and die lol
By the time Joel arrives, the toxicity would no longer be active inside the bottle, such pills have a half life where they expire.
lol me too😂
here on august 29, 2023…
I’m glad they showed that gay guys can be regular dudes instead of fruity feminine
Why?
My boyfriend said that it was funny, cause we're like that too he's the fruity lovey dovey type and im the apprehensive cautious type
@@chanteng1892 and one of the earliest acts early humans did was bash their neighbors head in and drag their women into a cave.....so Imma go on a limb and say you think rape should be legal, you fucking weirdo.
It was more of a forced gay character insert even though they supposedly make up 5% of the population, they have to be 25-50% of all TV characters. And then making him a low-key gay dude who is conservative and a survivalist is a taunt at conservative white males, by leftists, basically saying "haha you're actually secretly gay, and that's a bad thing you should be ashamed of" which is the opposite of what the left preaches to their own demographic, making them hypocrites.
Please say you're self-hating without saying you're self-hating.
Does anyone know who does the soundtrack score at 4:12? I need to know!
it’s called allowed to be happy. it’s from the last of us part 2 game soundtrack
@@Rachelraeanderson thank you so much!🥳
The realized Joel needed a car, so they created the greatest love story on television, beginning to end, got Joel the car and then had him crash it literally the next day
Who else is here on August 29, 2023 to pay respect to Bill and Frank? 🌸
The guitar at 4:12 is insaaaaaaaaane.. goosebumps all over my body.. need a longer version of that pleaseee
meeee tooo how is this called
@@adelarousarova3464 cant find the version unfortunately 😢 no cover got it so perfectly crisp like the original one
I love what they did to their story. I love the game and played It so many times before this came out and this was so amazing to see. They got a happy ending in the
Show.
1:12 to 1:16 Is there a symbolism behind the wind closing Bill and Frank's front door?
Because the window was open in Frank and Bill's room, there was draft. The door slamming shut prevented Joel from forcing the bedroom door open and thus made sure Bill's wishes were granted. I guess.
I didnt think it was the draft. It probably was Bill's body against the door.
No, it’s just the draft from window caused a cross breeze and slammed the door shut. But yeah, there’s some symbolism there, too. I love how beautifully this was filmed.
This was the episode that got me. To perfect
Even tho the death is changed a bit its still the same scene from the game.
The letter was hilarious and hit me hard in the end. As much as I love Ellie and Bill’s banter in the game, the way the writers treated this character in the show was phenomenal
"The bunker code is the same as the gate code but in reverse"
That's actually a pretty smart way to make sure that Joel is the only one
who can access the bunker after Bill and Frank are dead, besides them, he and Tess are the only ones who know the gate code.
"hehehehehehehe"
It’s very nice to know Bill and Joel were on good terms with each other when Bill and Frank passed away, in the game Bill and Joel were barely on good terms with each other and they were just associates and had debts to owe to each other, nothing more than that and once Bill got Joel the car, they had nothing to do with each other afterwards and it’s also good to know Bill and Frank were also on good terms and died together unlike the game when they weren’t on good terms at all when Frank died, Frank wanted more from life than Bills shitty little town but I don’t know what he expected because Bill was the only one who could protect him and the world literally ended and he got bitten, wrote a hate note and suicide note before he took his life! I’m also glad to see Lincoln isn’t as overrun here in the series unlike the game where have the town was overrun but Bill still managed and booby trapped the town, Lincoln was literally so clean here but I was a little disappointed there wasn’t as much action in Lincoln here like there was in the game!
Here on august 29 2023
Take anything you need. Leaves an entire arsenal of weapons...
on a practical level, how would they carry all of them? this isn't a video game, there's no real life way for a person to comfortably, safely, and quietly carry multiple semi-auto and auto and hunting rifles, shotguns, pistols, a bow, and all the necessary ammo for all of them.
If you don’t get fired up hearing the end of bill’s note…..something is wrong with you
Bill and frank Gone 😢😢💔
how is the name of the song that plays at 4:13 ?
RIP them :(
He just lost two friends and his girlfriend within two days
Background music at 4:12 ...... anyone????
Anyone peep when the house door shut when joel almost opened bills room
For real, where do I get their flashlights? I see them all the time in the Uncharted games, as well as The Last of Us, but did not think they were real. Now that they're seen in the show, I now know they're real
Was always a huge fan of Silent Hill and wanted a flashlight like that too.
Search for military surplus flashlights from the cold war era. Something like that
If i ever were to lose you...
It’s August 29th, 2023
They should have just stayed there. Ellie and him could have had a nice life in that neighborhood
They probably killed themselves because they ran out of food.
Tess told Joel to take her to the fireflies, he’s honoring the promise to Tess, I’m sure it crossed his mind to do that.
@@arvinbuenaagua5161 No. Did you watch the episode?
whats the date when joel and ellie arrived here at bill's house?
I'd like to know the music at the end? Is it Allowed to be Happy from Part II?
Yes!
Ellie in this show reminds me vaguely of Sally Draper from Mad Men.
Today is the day😢
That’s today…………….
Today is august 29th, 2023 :(
Damn, this scene hits like a truck!!!
And that's why Joel did what he did in the last episode.... because he wasn't going to let those motherfuckers hurt Ellie
Hehehehehe - Paulie Walnuts
Who was mowing the lawn after they died?
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I was born ready. I'm Ron fkn Swanson.
Ron wasn't a fruit because the writers weren't "woke"
F to pay respects
I had that opportunity. To save one person. I failed.
the only thing a Director got wrong was bill was supposed to team up with Joel and Ellie
The show had way more emotion in it, and that says alot because the game had emotion as well, take Sam and Henry for example in the game 😢, that shit still shocks me to this day bro.
What happened to Bill and Frank?
They’re both old. Frank is ill and told Bill to give him A LOT of pills in his wine so he can pass on his sleep. Bill gave them BOTH the pills so they can pass together.
Heard somebody, probably just in an attempt to be homophobic, say this episode didn’t push the narrative forward. They obviously didn’t understand this scene.
Joel failed to keep Tess safe the way Bill did Frank, this isn’t just heartbreaking it adds to Joel’s determination to keep Ellie safe.
You know when Joel was doing what he did at the end of the season, he was doing it thinking his job and purpose for still being alive was just to protect Ellie and fuck anybody in his way, guilty or otherwise.
Excellent writing and a fantastic change from the source material
A sad ending of Bill and Frank..
Powerful stuff
The show is great but still, i liked it better in trhe game, where bill was alive and kicking and was never known to have died.
For as great as this episode otherwise was, it's a bit disappointing that the letter's text was so lacking in subtlety. Otherwise a fantastic episode. Even if it didn't have much to do with the overarching story, it's still my favorite from the show so far
Ah but don't you see? That's peak Bill, he was never a subtle man, just very earnest and crass.
@@reaverfang377 The letter is just very out of character for Bill is what I'm saying. It's lacking in the subtlety that he's known for. He's a man of action, not words. I can get behind the concept of him writing a short note like "take what you need and don't open the bedroom door." But this emotional essay the writers gave him is just indicative of a lapse in judgment during the writing process
I'll be honest i feel the Episode was mostly to answer what happened to Bill after Ellie and Joel left. Which tbh i actually like this alot. I DEFITNALLY would've like to see bill come back but tbh this fate is quite nice:)
@@YeetusMingus bruh, you missed the point. Frank changed him as a person but still possessed his blunt honesty.
Plainly expressing himself in ways Game Bill never got to. It's a plot device the show is using to show the audience, the vast majority of which never played the games.
So either you need media literacy class or you are fishing for reasons to hate this piece of media.
@@reaverfang377 You don't need to stoop to false hyperbole to try and make a point; I don't hate the show or even this episode. I just didn't think the letter was executed in a way that did justice to Bill's character, which I stand by.
Neither in the show or the game, is it ever hinted that there is any fondness Bill has for Joel or Tess beyond some degree of professional respect; the letter makes no sense given the "relationship" they had.
I don't understand.why they don't stock.the fuck up on guns and ammo.?
And then he DIDN’T take all the guns and ammo. TV Joel clearly never played the game.
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I don’t get it why didn’t Joel and Ellie didn’t make that place their home? it’s safe and isolated, nowhere near the infected.
You could literally make that place a little small town full of people to safely live the rest of their lives
Because fIrst they had their mission, and then, well I think it was better in the end.
@@Johnnywilsonforever in the end they could of came back and lived there. By now the place is probably a ruin, waste of water and a generator I’d say.
@@SolaireKnightusIt wouldn’t have made sense for them to travel all the way back across the country, with all the danger that entailed, rather than go back to live with Tommy and his community. Besides, why live alone when you can live with other people who’ve already created a community?
Also the place is high maintenance, Joel isn't the same kind of person as Bill. He could never maintain it alone like Bill had.
Better call Joel
It is more like a letter written by ron swanson
Couldn't believe the series didn't made it look the same from game.
Haahahahahahaha
no its hehehehehehehe
Can't believe they offed Bill like that
So Bill was not in this series coz he and Frank commit suicide? Can't believe this that's horrible 😭
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