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Davide, I have a hubba nx solo with the carbon poles. I have had the same problem but used a piece of gaff tape placed over the sliver in my finger then ripped the tape off quickly to remove the sliver. I bought my nx solo in Canada before a trip. I also have the hubba hubba nx2 that has alloy poles and this was bought in Australia. The solo is great for hiking & bikepacking but the nx2 is great when wet & you want all your gear indoors. Both tents have red & white outer flies and I wish I had the dark olive outer when camping in places I prefer to be unseen. Birh tents are fantastics in all weather. I am not sure of the logic of what configurations are sold to the various countries. Great channel, keep up the great content.
Davide, I purchased these poles and really felt a peace of mind. I had two sets of the aluminum poles crack as you mentioned. I haven't encountered any flacking of the fibers as mentioned. I feel the larger joining areas make the pole set sturdier too; I feel less stress about bending the pole set. I think I paid about $125.00 for them at MSR in Seattle.
Yes! I got slivers too, that is a serious drag, it took like 3 weeks for the sliver to work it's way out. I also wonder about the poles chaffing against each other under vibration. I bought mine for motorcycle offroad camping and there is a ton of vibration. I think I will need to wear gloves for the tent set up too. Which is really dumb. Easton needs to address this issue. I'd rather have aluminum and no slivers.
They are made from a blend of S2 grade fiberglass (significantly stronger than regular, E grade fiberglass) and carbon fiber bonded with epoxy. They are wrapped in a way to be more flexible. S2 glass is very tough stuff, though not as stiff as carbon fiber. On a volume to volume basis, S glass fiberglass actually has slightly higher tensile strength, and will stretch a bit before breaking. On a weight to weight basis, carbon fiber has a bit more tensile strength, but with the regular grade, not by much. Carbon fiber is just a lot more innately stiff, and therefore also more brittle.
Great points, Davide. I wish I would have watched your video before I purchased my MSR Hubba Hubba 1. I think it would be a good tent with aluminum poles. Easton should stick to baseball.
Regarding the slivers, it's a really easy fix. I use extreme fine sanding cloth and go over the poles then use a tack cloth and a blower on them. All the loose fibers are completely eliminated. I rub my hands all over the poles when I’m done and perfectly smooth. Nothing to come off in or on ur hands now.
@@DavideTravelli not at all. You're only lightly sanding off any loose or protruding fibers. You can also check for any areas that need additional attention by running a cotton ball up and down the shafts. If anything catches the cotton ball, it needs additional sanding in that area. This is common practice on things made from carbon fiber.
@@DavideTravelli Davide did you try this method? I have the same slivers problem and I think I’m going to write to msr and asked them for their solution.
Syclone poles are a great technology, except for the little inconvenient that they.... break easily (yes, I´m being sarcatisc). I purchased an MSR Hubba Hubba NX in the US back in 2017/2018, can´t remember exactly, and after about 5 uses the poles starteds to bend and crack very close to the top hub/ring (?), and a while latter it just broke apart, ripping the rain cover right at the top as a consequence (add insult to injury...). I live abroad and it is virtually impossible to get a repair or replacement from MSR. Now I´m buying some generic carbon fiber tubes from Ali Express in the hopes I can fix it myself, but not very promissing. Switching to other brands, such as Big Agnes, after this very unpleasant experience with MSR tents.
I hope they will be more durable but we'll have to find out, for sure they are more flexible and it makes me more at easy to pitch the tent in very small places.
@@DavideTravelli compared to a aluminum pole the syclone poles absorb impacts while transporting better than aluminum. the drawback to them is the weight. aluminum poles are lighter when implemented; you could get away with like a single syclone pole to setup a 1p tent with that really moves around and is the same weight about as an aluminum but for close to the same stiffness of aluminum it will take a more beefyer(daimeter) syclone pole. i like my syclone poles on the torrent 3 i have but their destiny lies in being fitted to another tent.
@@chrisprice5806 Incorrect on the weight. I'm looking at a site right now that carries both Easton Al tent poles and Syclone ones. For an 18" long Al female pole with the OD of .355", the weight is .55 oz/22 grams. The closest sized Syclone pole which is also an 18" long, but with slightly larger OD of .365" and a weight of .40 oz/15 gm. So not only is it lighter, but it is lighter while being a bit larger/thicker. I wish more people would do a little research before making claims.
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Davide, I have a hubba nx solo with the carbon poles. I have had the same problem but used a piece of gaff tape placed over the sliver in my finger then ripped the tape off quickly to remove the sliver. I bought my nx solo in Canada before a trip. I also have the hubba hubba nx2 that has alloy poles and this was bought in Australia. The solo is great for hiking & bikepacking but the nx2 is great when wet & you want all your gear indoors. Both tents have red & white outer flies and I wish I had the dark olive outer when camping in places I prefer to be unseen. Birh tents are fantastics in all weather. I am not sure of the logic of what configurations are sold to the various countries. Great channel, keep up the great content.
Thank you for the kind comment 😊👊
Davide, I purchased these poles and really felt a peace of mind. I had two sets of the aluminum poles crack as you mentioned. I haven't encountered any flacking of the fibers as mentioned. I feel the larger joining areas make the pole set sturdier too; I feel less stress about bending the pole set. I think I paid about $125.00 for them at MSR in Seattle.
Yeah after travelling for over a year and half with them I think they are way better than aluminium. Not sure I like the larger joints though 😅
Yes! I got slivers too, that is a serious drag, it took like 3 weeks for
the sliver to work it's way out. I also wonder about the poles chaffing
against each other under vibration. I bought mine for motorcycle
offroad camping and there is a ton of vibration. I think I will need to
wear gloves for the tent set up too. Which is really dumb. Easton needs
to address this issue. I'd rather have aluminum and no slivers.
You can use a velcro strap to avoid the chaffing when you travel. The strap with keep them firm and in place.
They are made from a blend of S2 grade fiberglass (significantly stronger than regular, E grade fiberglass) and carbon fiber bonded with epoxy. They are wrapped in a way to be more flexible. S2 glass is very tough stuff, though not as stiff as carbon fiber. On a volume to volume basis, S glass fiberglass actually has slightly higher tensile strength, and will stretch a bit before breaking. On a weight to weight basis, carbon fiber has a bit more tensile strength, but with the regular grade, not by much. Carbon fiber is just a lot more innately stiff, and therefore also more brittle.
Great points, Davide. I wish I would have watched your video before I purchased my MSR Hubba Hubba 1. I think it would be a good tent with aluminum poles. Easton should stick to baseball.
I love the Syclone poles. Best thing after sliced bread.
Regarding the slivers, it's a really easy fix. I use extreme fine sanding cloth and go over the poles then use a tack cloth and a blower on them. All the loose fibers are completely eliminated. I rub my hands all over the poles when I’m done and perfectly smooth. Nothing to come off in or on ur hands now.
Thanks for the tip. The Sanding isn’t going to weaken the fibres of the tubing at the extremes?
@@DavideTravelli not at all. You're only lightly sanding off any loose or protruding fibers. You can also check for any areas that need additional attention by running a cotton ball up and down the shafts. If anything catches the cotton ball, it needs additional sanding in that area. This is common practice on things made from carbon fiber.
Okay will try it at some point!
@@DavideTravelli Davide did you try this method? I have the same slivers problem and I think I’m going to write to msr and asked them for their solution.
Not yet. I’m travelling and have many things going I didn’t have time yet.
Grazie Davide molto utile. Come sempre penso ogni cosa ha i suoi lati positivi e i suoi negativi. Dipende sempre dall' uso al momento.
Alla fine mi sto trovando bene. Purtroppo sono un po' piu' ingombranti degli altri.
Syclone poles are a great technology, except for the little inconvenient that they.... break easily (yes, I´m being sarcatisc). I purchased an MSR Hubba Hubba NX in the US back in 2017/2018, can´t remember exactly, and after about 5 uses the poles starteds to bend and crack very close to the top hub/ring (?), and a while latter it just broke apart, ripping the rain cover right at the top as a consequence (add insult to injury...). I live abroad and it is virtually impossible to get a repair or replacement from MSR. Now I´m buying some generic carbon fiber tubes from Ali Express in the hopes I can fix it myself, but not very promissing. Switching to other brands, such as Big Agnes, after this very unpleasant experience with MSR tents.
You should contact MSR support. They’re very helpful. I have been using the Syclone pole for years now and no problem
Hi...Is there any place in Europe,that i can order a Syclone pole set for mst hubba hubba nx?
Not that I’m aware of. You have to buy them through MRS USA
My msr in americs came with red polese. He must have bought a special version.
Hello! May i know where to buy the aluminum pole replacement?
Contact MSR customer support. When I had a problem and broke something they shipped the spare part I needed.
syclone are more heavy but more durable and have more sag.
I hope they will be more durable but we'll have to find out, for sure they are more flexible and it makes me more at easy to pitch the tent in very small places.
@@DavideTravelli compared to a aluminum pole the syclone poles absorb impacts while transporting better than aluminum. the drawback to them is the weight. aluminum poles are lighter when implemented; you could get away with like a single syclone pole to setup a 1p tent with that really moves around and is the same weight about as an aluminum but for close to the same stiffness of aluminum it will take a more beefyer(daimeter) syclone pole.
i like my syclone poles on the torrent 3 i have but their destiny lies in being fitted to another tent.
@@chrisprice5806 Incorrect on the weight. I'm looking at a site right now that carries both Easton Al tent poles and Syclone ones. For an 18" long Al female pole with the OD of .355", the weight is .55 oz/22 grams. The closest sized Syclone pole which is also an 18" long, but with slightly larger OD of .365" and a weight of .40 oz/15 gm. So not only is it lighter, but it is lighter while being a bit larger/thicker.
I wish more people would do a little research before making claims.
Wear glove, or spray Syclone poles with clear acrylic enamel spray paint.
nice guy
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you are kidding right? ... $1200AUD and you need to sand the poles?
beta product at best!