How many ways can I pitch the MSR HUBBA HUBBA NX2 | 2 man Tent review
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How many ways can I pitch the MSR HUBBA HUBBA NX2 | 2 man Tent review
In this video I have a look at my favourite tent, the MSR Hubba Hubba NX 2. It is a lightweight two person tent, with many different options of how to pitch it, which i show you in this video. I also have contact with MSR about how best to pitch it with the cross member poles, be sure to watch this before pitching yours.
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The Hubba Hubba is nice if it doesn't get damaged or the weather doesn't get bad.
Even on the official store page for the tent people are complaining about not being able to get parts outside of USA/Canada and MSR's respond is just "Outside of USA/Canada it's up to the local distributor". So if something gets damaged your local distributor might just tell you "Buy a new tent".. As for the weather and overall durability - it's the perfect tent if there is no strong wind and/or rain. The fact that the non-European version has better poles does say a lot about MSR's attitude towards international clients.
I’m 6’5’’ tall, and I love my Hubba hubba nx2…. One of the few lightweight tents that gives me enough room to stretch out ! Can also recommend the tent in bad weather, been caught in a couple of bad storms, when I hiked the Colorado trail, and it performed very well…
Never really paid attention to the top pole, thanks for the tip.👍🏻
I got stung by 200 mosquitoes just watching the bit about ditching the inner tent.
Anyway, thank you for all the info!
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Great video Adam. Just bought this tent and it’s been a lifetime since I’ve spent the night under the stars. I was struggling with the outer skin but luckily I discovered your video. Thank you.
Thanks for a great video. I'm based in Canada and just bought this tent. I have the upgraded poles, but what I'd prefer from the European model is the dark green material colour. Ours are light grey and there's nothing stealthy about them. The grass is always greener... 😉
I've just bought this tent and I'm beyond excited to get out and use it. I've had it pitched in my garden and considered camping in my garden. 😂
Update: used it a few times now and it's as good as probably better than I thought it would be. Fantastic tent!
@@dudeymcduderson nice one James - see discussion above for some ideas on modifications to extend the season range and pitching options for your Hubba Hubba. What a cracking tent!
@@paulfordoutdoors to be honest I've had it in some gnarly windy conditions and it's held up well. I did bail once on Angle Tarn, but it would have been ok. I was just being a wimp haha. I may try some of these suggestions though.
@@dudeymcduderson Yep, you have to know when to bail, the great outdoors, and especially the mountains, can be beautiful and tranquil one moment and in no time very hostile. There's no loss of face when making that call; being prepared to brave things out is one thing but there are plenty of people out there reflecting back on 'if only I'd bailed when I thought I should have'. Just like you're obviously doing, there's no substitute for building your experience and trusting your instincts!
Hi mate.. would you still recommend this a year on?
Great review, nicely done. I have this tent and couldn't agree more with everything you said. Thanks for the top pole advice, every time I set mine up it's been a roulette of top or bottom :)
Thanks 🙏 yeah I was surprised the instruction weren’t so clear that the pole has to go on top, took a few emails back and forth with MSR to find out!
One of the best,if not the best tent reviews I’ve seen. And trust me I’ve seen a lot!
This has confirmed my choice of tent..
subbed!
Thank you! I really appreciate that 🙏
I was torn between this and something lighter. But your video was the first I saw of someone pitching it without the inner tent. Awesome.
Thank you! I’m glad it helped you 🙏
Great review, thanks for taking the time to post it. I just got the Access 2 and nervous about the flattening/collapsing in the wind. Will test locally first but if not good I'll consider sewing some sort of ties on the inside of the fly at the guy points where the hubs are. That way the hubs will be held indirectly by the guy lines and stop the poles slipping away from the fly in high winds. I think I wouldn't have bought an MSR tent had I seen other videos and comments about the collapses. I already had to get myself over the line by working around the inner pitch first with a ground mat/tarp clip solution (see Mountain Masters channel).
Great review - you show great honesty and integrity. Good focus on facts and content rather than glossy presentation. Keep it up!
Thank you 🙏
Looking at buying one of these. Think you just got me over the line. Bang on review mate👍
Thanks mate 🙏
I’ve owned the hubba for about five e years, one of the best tents.
I would have thought simple engineering would have been obvious with the pole being on top as it spreads the weight a lot more 💁🏼♂️
Great vid. I actually just got one of these and going on a trip this coming weekend. Temps are gonna be cold at -3c /27 Fahrenheit but I got thermals and layers so hopefully all will be good haha. Thanks for the video
Hi Adam, great video and review, thank you! I'm new to your channel and found you searching for Hubba Hubba NX 2 links. Like your videos and have subscribed (and like you I'm also a keen follower of Paul Messner). I also have the NX2 and, living in the UK, only bought it because I reckoned that I could make it into a Fly First pitching tent. I have thought through the setting up modes (inner first, fast & light, etc.) and realised early on that if, using para-cord, I made a 'bow tie' or 'double triangle' cord frame based on the size of the NX2's footprint, this could be used to set up the poles first, by themselves, without using either the footprint, the inner or the fly. If its raining this allows you to set up the fly, clamber inside out of the rain and lay out the footprint, folded in half so that the 'inside' of the footprint remains dry. You can then sort yourself out and get out of your wet gear, folding out the footprint to full width once you're ready. You can then lay out the inner and although it's a bit fiddly to reach into the corners and hook the footprint and inner onto the ends of the poles it's do-able. Equally, its a bit fiddly to attach the inner from the inside underneath the stretched fly, but it's eminently do-able; just need to unzip the inner's doors so you can kneel on the groundsheet and attach the inner's hooks to the poles. Job done, fly-first set up in the rain!
Hi Paul, thanks very much!
Ah good idea, must give it a try. Out camping this weekend, will try it out 👍 cheers
@@Adamshandadventures You're welcome Adam, enjoy your trip! Can't recall whether you've mentioned it in your other videos on the Hubba Hubba 2 but using trekking poles to support the fly, placed inside at the ends of the cross pole (effectively mirroring the extended cross pole of the MSR Access) helps prevent the fly from sagging and being blown in if it's windy. It doesn't make the Hubba Hubba a 4 season tent, and of course it isn't designed to be, but I think these modifications definitely nudge it into the realms of a 3+. Personally, out of all the tents, tarps and bivis that I've tried, over many years of camping and trekking, I absolutely love this tent and like you am prepared to carry it and use it as a solo tent.
I got this tent for motorcycle camping. Not used in anger yet but, regardless, thanks for taking the time to make this video. Always good to hear from someone who has actually used the tent and not just another “unboxing” video crap.👍
Haha love this "not used in anger yet" :)
Very clear report, thak you!
Looks like a very well thought-through design.
Appreciate your inside the tent part of the review - 40% of my buying emphasis is on stargazing so I was worried about there being more fabric than some of its meshier rivals (Copper Spur and Nemo dagger OSMO). Looks like there's plenty of mesh in eyeline though so nothing to worry about! Cheers!
Thank you 🙏 glad it helped
Fabulous tent….I’ve got one, and my son and daughter have one each as well. West highland way and the great glen walks in Scotland planned for 2022.
I am lucky enough to have he latest american version with the new cyclone poles and as i understand it the fly sheet is treated with a new waterproof coating, not tried it in anger yet though!! But what a great little tent.
Really good, in-depth review. You can pitch it outer first if you have the footprint - I have the Naturehike copy because I'm a tight wad.
I've seen people pitch similar tents outer first using some 2mm accessory cord instead of the footprint.
When it's pitched with the inner at home, tie some cord to one corner, run it to the next and tie a knot and so on til you have a full perimeter to tension the poles on 👌
Nice review, thanks.
Fantastic review I’m looking into buying either MSR tent ⛺️ or a Vango Force 10
Thank you for your very helpful review 💛🙏
Thanks for a great review.
I have the idea of getting a Big Agnes Copper Spur 3, but haven't ruled out the Hubba Hubba yet.
I can't understand why manufacturers don't give an option for a footprint that covers all the ground under the fully erected tent, so all your gear doesn't go straight on the ground!
Happy camping! 🤗
Shandy this has made my year x we need to catch up xxxx
🙏 absolutely buddy, been far far too long x
Thank you for a very helpful video. We're now looking to replace our Marmot Grid 2P which has had a good run in some amazing/terrible conditions, and is now (sadly) only suited to sunny days! Our existing tent had made it's way through 60-70mph winds in Lochranza, and possibly the wildest storm of wind and midges in Whiteness, Shetland Islands. @Adam, were you able to make a follow up vid in of the MSRHHNX2 in dreadful conditions (have you a link)?
I’ve got the one man version and it took me a bit of “common sense” to figure out which way the cross pole goes. A good way to strengthen the structure even further is to use a trekking pole as a kind of brace for the middle cross pole.
instaBlaster.
I'm a little confused about having to put up the inner before the outer. Looks like it would be possible to do outer then inner which would make sense in bad weather.
I love this tent, never slept in only the inner tent, too afraid of other people killing me. Strange thoughts.
Great video! I have just bought the NX2 so good to see the right way to pitch it. I have pitched it once so far when it arrived as a test, but don't recall whether I had the cross pole over or under. Have you tried pitching the outer first using the footprint then pitching the inner? This would be an idea if it's lashing rain and you wanted to try and keep the inner dry.
Chris did you have any luck finding an answer to this?
@@EGillies I've yet to buy the footprint, but do still plan to. I did come across this video where Claire pitches a NX1 without a footprint in poor weather so it can be done! th-cam.com/video/uDRGc0mHyac/w-d-xo.html
@@ChrisALindsay thanks!
I don't understand why people say it is in a pitch first because i found it is possible to pitch either way
I Recomend also buying the footprint/groundsheet
I use the tent without the inner often. At the beach too.
Thanks for the review! Not sure, but the cyclone poles may be heavier. I have the MSR HH NX first edition with the DAC feather lite poles and when setup with the top pole set right, I was able to endure several severe thunderstorms in the Canadian prairies with no pole failure. Also, here in NA we don’t get that nice dark green fly, which I much prefer for wild/stealth camping....we get the white and red fly, which for wild camping is like a beacon in the woods....may as well set up neon lights to point anyone nearby to your location! I plan on buying the NX2 from UK so I can get the green fly. Cheers!
Thanks 🙏 The syclone poles are slightly heavier but can endure a lot more.
It failed again on me with the pole on the top 🤷♂️
Yeah the green fly is nice, don’t understand why there is such a difference in the same tent for the different markets?!
@@Adamshandadventures the cyclone poles are supposed to be stronger, but it has turned out they break a lot more often, and you can get then in the EU. The new American NX model is sold as the shield in the EU. That will come with the new poles.
According to msr the green model was available in North America for a short while, but did not sell well so was pulled. I believe they themselves commented that they thought the green was more popular in Europe because many European countries have very limited wild camping options and stealth camping is therefor much more common.
@@valdemarjrgensen8072 Since my last post, I was able to acquire a green HHNX2 fly from an online retailer in the UK (one of the last they had…lucky me)…at considerable expense, but I have it and now feel much more comfortable wild/stealth camping!
Customising the universal footprint? My red footprint arrived today ahead of the tent and did not have the expected eyeholes in the corners that Videos of the Green footprint are shown to have. Watching the above Video shows the cord loops at full stretch pegged in place outside the fly, so how do the ends of the poles locate on the footprint, do the footprint cord loops share the same peg as the fly? Then where do the ends of the poles locate, between the loops? Answers please.
Hi I had the same problem with the new copper spur hv ul 2 big agnes and the middle pole goes over the top on that one and doesn't make a difference in strong winds I hope it does work for you and the msr, but the copper spur was flatterned and its a similar design., great vid by the way
Thanks! It did make a bit of difference but not great. It seems to be at the Y joints in the poles towards the bottom that’s causing the issues.
Think i need to invest in a hurricane proof tent 😂 got my eye on a Nordisk Svalbard, gets great reviews for wind tolerance
@@Adamshandadventures I think them kind of free standing tents there needs to be more ties on the inside of the fly to wrap around the poles and stringer guy out lines and points to make them a bit more wind proof, in my humble opinion. Good luck with the new tent if u get it, I have a single treking pole tent at the min and its been good to me so far fingers crossed, all the best with your channel
@@Adamshandadventures I'm looking at the Hilleberg Allak 2
Hi, when I first got my msr nx2 i tried to set the top middle pole like this but when putting the fly sheet on it needed far to much force to fully attach it so I tried it with the pole underneath and it fits much better.
I find if you clip the fly to the centre pole first before clipping in the corners it makes it a lot easier. It is MSRs advice to have the pole on top.
With the fly i always start and end on the top. To unmount I fold it over the top pole to the still fixed end after having it removed on one end. Then I fold it to have easy access to the upper par for the next installation. If you mark this inside part with some tape you get the direction right easier because sometimes it is difficult to see which straps (red or grey) are on what side of the folded fly let alone recognizing the difference in the dark.
Hi loved your explanation. How do you usually tight the straps on the stakes? Thanks.
Thanks, I use the tension pullers (not proper terminology 😂) to pull it tight
Would you guys recommend the nx1 or 2 if sleeping with dog? I love the look of the 1 but think I should get this 2p instead for the extra space with the pup.
I’ve no experience with the 1 unfortunately. The 2 tho is actually big enough for 2people, so pretty big. Yourself and the pup plus your gear would be very comfortable in the 2p.
On a rainy day, how do you feel about the vestibule? large enough to fire up a gas stove? I got the msr elixir 4. I have thought about getting another set of tent poles. We would then effectively get two tents, if the elements allow it. one with the innertent, and one with only the outer
Plenty of room to fire up a jetboil or MSR pocket rocket. If you check out th-cam.com/video/n-_YKi3BNSs/w-d-xo.html I cook in the vestibule on a recent trip out. Hope it helps 🙏
@@Adamshandadventures thank you🙏
If it’s raining is the inner waterproof due to getting soaked before out cover fitted
Is there a possibility to protect the ineer with the outer while setting up during bad wether? Is it possible without the footprint?
I have recently ordered this tent. How well does the 2p universal footprint fit with the inner and rainfly? I got the Elixir since before and two things that seemed better with that one are the custom made footprint and gearloft pockets.
The unavailable custom made footprint is a lot better as it reproduces the size of the inner tent floor. It has riveted holes on the corners where the poles go into. So you can pitch the pole construction easily just like you would do with the inner tent. It is a shame they seem to not make it anymore. I'd customize the universal footprint as soon as possible.
@@stefangoeres3256 Thanks, I will keep the custom made footprint that I got with my Elixir 2 and use that. Then sell the Elixir 2 without it.
That rain gutter is nice but that storm flap needs to be twice as deep imo
Is there a (fast & easy) way to pitch the inner- and outer tent as one unit (E.G. if it's either windy, rainy or both)?
Not that I’m aware of. You can pitch outer first and shelter then pitch the inner. But you can’t pitch them as a one
I have found it great but a little unsteady in high winds as you mentioned, even with the cross pole on top.
Just got a Scarp 1 for windy conditions.
No inna is a great idea...thks
Whats 500g when I am 20 stone!! Love my hubba hubba for motorcycle touring and backpacking
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Not sure what’s crazier, that anyone would consider sleeping in this tent without the fly sheet in Ireland at any time of year or that anyone would consider this a three man tent. This tent barely fits two people. It’s essentially a one man tent.
Inability to pitch the inner and fly sheet together is a major drawback, as is the paper thin ground sheet. The extra footprint is an absolute necessity.
Can you pitch outer first with the footprint, then add the inner? For example if it’s raining like it always is in the uk
I’ve read that you can, but I’ve never tried it. I don’t see why not tho. I’ll give it a try next time I’m out and let you know
I have done this before and it’s totally fine. It just takes a little longer.
which one to choose: hubba hubba 2 or hubba hubba NX old model?
Derek Cullen (Ireland) uses one on his walks and demonstrated the top middle support in the right position....
Ok thanks 👍
He also posted his video after I did..
@@Adamshandadventures He must have watched you...
Awesome. Do you have any link where to buy the tent.
www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/two-person-tents-c26/hubba-hubba-nx-tent-p2405
Maybe a stupid question but does it not come supplied with a footprint sheet ?
When did you purchase this tent? I like the green rain fly but I believe they stopped selling them a while back
I picked it up last August. I did a quick search there, it seems they are out of stock on most UK sites. A lot of outdoor gear is hard to get hold of at the min for some reason. Either they’re updating it or hopefully back in stock soon
@@Adamshandadventures so I’m definitely going to buy this tent soon. I plan on using it for 2 people. And my concern is floor space. I’m looking at 2 sleeping pads that are 27” I know the floor space says it’s 50” on msr’s website. Will I have trouble trying to fit these pads or should I look at a different pad. Most of these tents curl up on the sides so I’m hoping that a couple extra inches will be able to fit ok.
Great video mate.
Would you still recommend this tent?
Yeah I do mate, wouldn’t use it tho in high winds, lost faith a bit with it. But it light winds, heavy rain, everything else it’s perfect. Good tent
@@Adamshandadventures I bought this tent and totally agree with that, anything over 25mph winds and you’re in for a noisy night.: 🤣
Sorry for late reply 🤦♂️ been off TH-cam for a few months, lots going on! Glad you got sorted with a tent tho 👍
Hi, did you try this tent in demanding conditions with the pole on top, what was the result, great video BTW, jimmy
Yes I did mate, it was a lot better than when the pole was below. I think I used it well outside of its recommended wind tolerance tho and it still collapsed. Really good tent but wouldn’t use it in winds over 35-40mph. Just my opinion from my experience
@@Adamshandadventures thanks, it's a minefield, I think longterm I'll be buying more than one tent, jimmy
Yea I’m thinking the same. I’ve a few tents but thinking of getting the Nordisk Svalbard for high winds
Nice video. Just one question from me as a non English native speaker: I like your accent, however I can’t work out, where do folks speak like you do?
Thank you!
😂 yeah it’s a strange one isn’t it! I’m from Ireland, up in the North. About 30mins north of Belfast.
Where are you watching from?
@@Adamshandadventures I am German (living near Cologne). Thank you very much for your quick answer Adam. Guess who is binge watching your videos at the moment?
@@maikelmolto8986 😂 Ich hoffe sie gefallen euch. Heading out for a wild camp tomorrow, so more camping content coming very soon!
Great tent....just wish it wasn't inner pitch first and that the inner colour wasn't a glaring red.
You can pitch the outer first and then the inner. It’s a bit more of a faff but really useful when it is raining.
Could you just install the inner once you install the outer first?
Hello. It's a great review. I am thinking of buying this one,,, one question, can the outshield(fly sheet?) stand by it's own with the pole if all corners are pegged down? or do I need a footprint?
Thank you! Yes it can but you wouldn’t have any floor, you’d be laying on the ground if that makes sense
@@Adamshandadventures Can the outer cover stands it's own? That's great!! Thank you.
Yes as long as you peg it
The inner tent doubles as a mosquito/bug net tried and tested
Where in NI are ya from mate? I was born and raised there, but have lived abroad for 30
I’m Antrim based!
Got myself two tents today: this tent and also the Fjallraven Abisko Shape 2. Couldn’t choose. Both have there own advantages and disadvantages. Bought the Shape 2 for the waterkolom but I just can’t sit up in a relaxed position, whereas I bought the MSR for the quick setup and ability to sit up straight inside. Also the Shape seems to be a bit tougher, and the Hubba more chilled. Feels like the Shape is more a tent for a few nights at the same place whereas the Hubba is especially for a one nighter at one place. Seriously can’t choose.
Gotta figure something out the next few days. Any recommandations which one you’d prefer and why?
I tried having the top pole on the top and the fly seemed too tight to get on.
It does seem very tight, but that’s the way MSR advised me to pitch it after a few emails!
I think they recommend that the fly be attached to the crosspole ends before being secured to the four corners. I don't know if that's helpful, but I did overlook that step on my first attempt, and in subsequent setups I found it's definitely easier to do it the way they suggest.
What brand and type are your pants?
Erm there Black Diamond, but can’t remember which, sorry!
hi
someone has already try to put this tent in apidura bag ?
How to buy this tent ?
Bit of shambles if you've gotta pitch in the rain. Not ideal for the English weather. Looks an amazing tent though
Will people steal this tent if I leave it on my site for a day hike. 🤣😂🤣
😂😂
sounded likethe dude really started ofthe video by saying "whats crack" lmaaaaaooo
😂 ‘What’s the Craic?’ N.Irish slang for how’s it going!
The HH at 1500 mm is a little low, given the price.
Lol after showing the correct way to attach the middle pole, at 3.45 it shows it the wrong way 🤷
dont take this tent out in anything stronger than 30 mph winds if you are going to take it out in heavy rain fabsil the fly first then seam seal the seams.
Its not entirely correct. This tent tent can be pitched outer first. This video slightly damages the reputation of this not exactly lower range tent...You can pitch the outer first and than the inner after that, no problem. Big advantage. Seems you're testing gear but have a less idea about camping / hiking. And the aluminium structure is fine. And it is for £ 450 at least. Gosh maaan...
You set it up wrong according to yourself!!!😅
When you laid down in the tent to show the room, did you consider that we are all different heights? Why do 99% of tent reviewers never take this into account? Seriously.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m 6ft 2 if that helps you for reference
@@Adamshandadventures That really helps. Many thanks
does it have a pocket on the ceiling to put a lamp or flashlight?
by the way, your music is WAYYYYY too loud. your voice is quiet and then every 15 seconds loud music comes on. i appreciate the video but it's quite annoying. just ditch the music. we came here for the info, not to listen to music.
This Hubba Hubba tent is terrible. I just bought one, unless you use this without a rain fly in absolutely perfect dry conditions it doesn't work. It leaks like crazy it is not weatherproof at ALL. The design is terrible. Yes its easy to set up which is great. But thats it. The rain fly sticks to the mesh, even in clear conditions the condensation leaks all over you. Light shower you are in for a bad night. Don't get it!!
I have had mine for 3 years now and used it in all weather conditions. Was subjected to 2 days of torrential rain and it could not have performed any better, not a single leak! No problems with condensation either. I really cannot fault this tent. Maybe send yours back as it must still be under warranty.
I have used mine 10 yrs in al weathers locations .no complaints plus it is ultra light
a bit late to the party - this tent has been out for years
In Ireland we get things years later! its a joke.