so far as a loki main ive gotten to diamond 2 solo and currently trying to get grandmaster, and has honestly been really easy but i do have experience playing baptiste in overwatch and i feel that my baptiste experience carries over
Been maining ironman for a bit and definitely am aware of all his capability especially now with hela and hawk getting banned in diamond+. Shines when everyone does what they are supposed to and works better on certain maps or against certain matchups.
Some constructive criticism: Your words are insightful, but the tier list you’ve made is much less so. We understand that every character is good in the hands of a good player. However, all skill levels being equal, some characters are just better than others. When you say things like “Every other dps is better than Scarlet Witch,” that means she’s D tier, or F tier. That doesn’t mean that nobody can win matches with her, but simply that of all the characters, she’s near the bottom of the list. If you’re too afraid to rank things lowly, you end up with a list like this, where over 50% of the cast is rated A tier or higher. If I’m a new player trying to figure out what characters are best to try and climb out of elo hell, this list doesn’t really help me narrow it down that much. Your explanations give lots of nuance, but the tier list itself needs more of that nuance, instead of clustering everyone into either A or B.
Carried as Thor all the to diamond III, and usually always get mvp unless it’s a really long game and hella, psylocke, or Hawkeye, iron fist get like 30k damage or something crazy . Idk what it is but Thor just makes sense for me and he turns into tank rushing dps that can push and seclude characters at will. It’s so fun pushing hulk off map with Thor or pushing psylocke into room away from healers to 1v1 and diff em. It’s also so fun to pop your f key and chuck lighting at Ironmans, Spider-Man, healers, scarlet which when she almost lets her ult go off. He also gets shield for dashing so the guy is just berserk.
I will agree being strategist in bronze is a fucking joke sometimes. Healing dps getting 4 kills in a game and the tank is trying to take the point but every other character is just playing team death match. It’s tough
Got into gold 3 as a rocket raccoon main, looking to go into diamond or maybe even grandmasters. I have reached 28k healing in a single match. Got told by someone today to switch to mantis. Yet no one wanted to help with the Thor back lining me, not only that but we barely had any dps aside from a black widow missing so many shots. I was labeled as the problem for our team, yet I reached 20k healing for that match.
I think rocket raccoon is decent, especially with punisher or bucky. Like I said, none of the heroes are bad, he's just more situational compared to the other strategists
The healing numbers as rocket means very little, you can reach high healing numbers overall with him but he doesnt have good burst healing therefore not a good main healer if the team doesnt have another one.
I am trying my best but I am stuck in silver 1.... I just wanna get to gold and I only play tanks cuz noone else plays them I need someone to help me learn and practice
I got to gold mainly playing healer It's easier than tank You cant tank properly with trash healers so this worked better for me, although I main tank in most games.
Play strange play extremely aggressive go into the leaderboards and watch the highest ranked strange you can use the melee on him a ton and build up dark energy and use your rb fast don’t use your shield much you don’t need it as much as you think it can also block a ton of ultra magnetos scarlet witch another doctor strange most ults in the game especially be on watch for hela if you see her ult use your fly ability and hold ur shield right in front of her always stay frontline for the most part never ever chase low characters that’s for dps to worry about when using you ult try to make sure your counters are taken care of for example make sure magneto doesn’t have shield make sure strange either doesn’t have shield or is distracted make sure Peni Parker’s used her ult etc these tips brought me from low gold to diamond 2
I hit Diamond mostly solo q. Close to Gm because I have been playing w a duo. I would recommend playing mantis to climb. She’s the ultimate solo carry I feel
So, realistically. someone in C Tier iS D Tier. A third of B Tier are C Tier. And a good chunk of A Tier Characters are More B Tier, than A Tier. Iron Man, definitely B Tier. He can go ham, but he's far more likely gonna be picked off like a fly. Its not that any characters are inherently bad, its just between the learning curve and the ease of countering them, this tier list needs polishing. Storm is also easily picked off, but she's Also My D Lister. She wants to be up close to fight with her skills, but that puts her in a dangerous position to be effective.
I kind of understand what you're saying, but I think everyone is where they belong. The reason Iron Man is so high is because with the Hulk team up he is S tier. Everyone thought he was bad early on, but his right click when you're in overdrive is extremely strong. The fact that he's consistently played in gm games with hulk means that in these lower ranks you shouldn't get picked off easily. The issue is most people are out in the open and don't know how to play him yet, so in those cases he will get melted, especially against people with decent aim. Keep in mind your healers will be way better in gm compared to lower ranks, so that also really helps when it comes to staying alive as Iron Man. Certain maps and heroes can also be hard to play into for sure though. Hela being banned in almost every game after Diamond really helps him as well. The tier list could use some polishing, I agree
4:30 panther sucks when your team is uncoordinated. in bronze, your team is often staggered and lost. you at least need tanks who can make space and stay alive for him to preform well. Unless the other team's supports just don't know how to use their self sustain cooldowns, you need your teammates to at least take agro off of you and distract the supports. u cant 1v6
The best part about this game is that NOOO BODY has the right tier list .. just because u haven't ser a good venom doesn't mean venom isn't good .. this is what that wolverine main just proved .. u can climb with any hero if u play good enough .. there are hidden op heroes still undiscovered .. and my bet is on Loki 😂 especially if u put hours on all the heroes
I’m using good characters but I’m still losing a ton. I’ve taken a lot of time to get better, and I can win most engagements but I still end up losing. Do you have any tips to stop this.
Unfortunately it's hard to tell what kinds of mistakes you're making cause I haven't seen your gameplay. I will be making videos in the future about general/advanced guides on what mistakes players usually make in the lower ranks and how to get out, so those may help. I might also do VOD reviews if many of you want me to as well, so you could send in one of your replays later on. It's a little difficult for me to give you advice here though
Idk I didn't feel that way when I was gold but maybe cuz I'm on China servers. From my experience, it was alot harder to carry games in Bronze and Silver and was alot more toxic as it really came down to how coordinated your team was. I lost 5 games from Bronze 3 to Silver 1, reached Plat 1 today from Silver 1 without a single loss dropping 40 to 50 every game. (I'm a Hela starlord abuser) Now that I'm Plat 1, almost diamond solo queue, it's alot easier for me to carry. I consistently average 50 elims a game as players play more cohesively even without comms. People understand abilities and peel for each other. Unlike lower ranks, where some games are just unwinnable, every game is more or less winnable in plat as the teams are a bit more even.
Solo ranking is impossible. It's just win-loss-win-loss and it doesn't even matter how good you are cuz the randoms on your team will still lock Spiderman and go 2-6 for an entire match or you get 3 randoms who can't play duelist but still play it anyways and they play alone getting picked off the entire game. I'm Gold 3 right now on Console but Rivals isn't fun at all to play solo because of how aids the randoms are in the game
@@WaitForQew2 remember that a tier list should ideally create a bell-curve shape. You did that, but it could be a little closer to the shape. And don't be afraid to move someone if you change your mind mid-guide.
Dr strange should be up top he can basically stuff ults and is useful 100% of the time. He is pretty boring but easy to grasp and always makes a difference.
as a loki main myself i believe he is ass and we should gatekeep
All these guys are stupid I solo climbed to diamond 1 with Loki
@@HeirOfPontusand what’s that suppose to prove ?
Ahahahaha I just said.. on loki mains will know lokis power .. back stab passive could use a buff tho cuz its genuinely ass ..
loki mains unite
@@ismailhertany8425 agreed, should be reworked to include his damage from behind.
Didn't realize this was a 6 sub channel, good work my man. keep it up!
Thank you! Really appreciate it
Same I was shocked when I saw the subscribers amount
so far as a loki main ive gotten to diamond 2 solo and currently trying to get grandmaster, and has honestly been really easy but i do have experience playing baptiste in overwatch and i feel that my baptiste experience carries over
proper first video m8, algorithm came through for you and it had good quality wp.
Thank you so much! Hoping to improve the quality more next video
Been maining ironman for a bit and definitely am aware of all his capability especially now with hela and hawk getting banned in diamond+. Shines when everyone does what they are supposed to and works better on certain maps or against certain matchups.
For your subscriber count this is great bro.
Thank you for puttting my king black panther in the top ranks he deserves it
Some constructive criticism: Your words are insightful, but the tier list you’ve made is much less so. We understand that every character is good in the hands of a good player. However, all skill levels being equal, some characters are just better than others. When you say things like “Every other dps is better than Scarlet Witch,” that means she’s D tier, or F tier. That doesn’t mean that nobody can win matches with her, but simply that of all the characters, she’s near the bottom of the list. If you’re too afraid to rank things lowly, you end up with a list like this, where over 50% of the cast is rated A tier or higher. If I’m a new player trying to figure out what characters are best to try and climb out of elo hell, this list doesn’t really help me narrow it down that much. Your explanations give lots of nuance, but the tier list itself needs more of that nuance, instead of clustering everyone into either A or B.
I mean I main Scarlet Witch and regularly carry with her
@@TheRealCptObvious1what rank are you currently?
@@diegoalamode7476 Plat 1 rn
Nice video!
Carried as Thor all the to diamond III, and usually always get mvp unless it’s a really long game and hella, psylocke, or Hawkeye, iron fist get like 30k damage or something crazy . Idk what it is but Thor just makes sense for me and he turns into tank rushing dps that can push and seclude characters at will. It’s so fun pushing hulk off map with Thor or pushing psylocke into room away from healers to 1v1 and diff em. It’s also so fun to pop your f key and chuck lighting at Ironmans, Spider-Man, healers, scarlet which when she almost lets her ult go off. He also gets shield for dashing so the guy is just berserk.
I will agree being strategist in bronze is a fucking joke sometimes. Healing dps getting 4 kills in a game and the tank is trying to take the point but every other character is just playing team death match. It’s tough
Agree with the Loki statement 100 percent
I think Penny is going to emerge as a powerhouse, the stun on a 3 second cooldown alone is so incredibly strong. I think she deserves A tier
Got into gold 3 as a rocket raccoon main, looking to go into diamond or maybe even grandmasters. I have reached 28k healing in a single match.
Got told by someone today to switch to mantis. Yet no one wanted to help with the Thor back lining me, not only that but we barely had any dps aside from a black widow missing so many shots. I was labeled as the problem for our team, yet I reached 20k healing for that match.
I think rocket raccoon is decent, especially with punisher or bucky. Like I said, none of the heroes are bad, he's just more situational compared to the other strategists
The healing numbers as rocket means very little, you can reach high healing numbers overall with him but he doesnt have good burst healing therefore not a good main healer if the team doesnt have another one.
I am trying my best but I am stuck in silver 1.... I just wanna get to gold and I only play tanks cuz noone else plays them I need someone to help me learn and practice
I got to gold mainly playing healer
It's easier than tank
You cant tank properly with trash healers so this worked better for me, although I main tank in most games.
@@jnw85 wich healer u play?
Play strange play extremely aggressive go into the leaderboards and watch the highest ranked strange you can use the melee on him a ton and build up dark energy and use your rb fast don’t use your shield much you don’t need it as much as you think it can also block a ton of ultra magnetos scarlet witch another doctor strange most ults in the game especially be on watch for hela if you see her ult use your fly ability and hold ur shield right in front of her always stay frontline for the most part never ever chase low characters that’s for dps to worry about when using you ult try to make sure your counters are taken care of for example make sure magneto doesn’t have shield make sure strange either doesn’t have shield or is distracted make sure Peni Parker’s used her ult etc these tips brought me from low gold to diamond 2
@@tunaozturk2639 mainly cloak
But also mantis
I hit Diamond mostly solo q. Close to Gm because I have been playing w a duo. I would recommend playing mantis to climb. She’s the ultimate solo carry I feel
So, realistically. someone in C Tier iS D Tier. A third of B Tier are C Tier. And a good chunk of A Tier Characters are More B Tier, than A Tier.
Iron Man, definitely B Tier. He can go ham, but he's far more likely gonna be picked off like a fly.
Its not that any characters are inherently bad, its just between the learning curve and the ease of countering them, this tier list needs polishing. Storm is also easily picked off, but she's Also My D Lister. She wants to be up close to fight with her skills, but that puts her in a dangerous position to be effective.
I kind of understand what you're saying, but I think everyone is where they belong. The reason Iron Man is so high is because with the Hulk team up he is S tier. Everyone thought he was bad early on, but his right click when you're in overdrive is extremely strong. The fact that he's consistently played in gm games with hulk means that in these lower ranks you shouldn't get picked off easily. The issue is most people are out in the open and don't know how to play him yet, so in those cases he will get melted, especially against people with decent aim. Keep in mind your healers will be way better in gm compared to lower ranks, so that also really helps when it comes to staying alive as Iron Man. Certain maps and heroes can also be hard to play into for sure though. Hela being banned in almost every game after Diamond really helps him as well. The tier list could use some polishing, I agree
@@WaitForQew2i think the logic good but only when you get high enough to ban hawkeye or hela. If the enemy has hawkeye or hela your iron man is dead.
4:30 panther sucks when your team is uncoordinated. in bronze, your team is often staggered and lost. you at least need tanks who can make space and stay alive for him to preform well. Unless the other team's supports just don't know how to use their self sustain cooldowns, you need your teammates to at least take agro off of you and distract the supports. u cant 1v6
The best part about this game is that NOOO BODY has the right tier list .. just because u haven't ser a good venom doesn't mean venom isn't good .. this is what that wolverine main just proved .. u can climb with any hero if u play good enough .. there are hidden op heroes still undiscovered .. and my bet is on Loki 😂 especially if u put hours on all the heroes
I’m using good characters but I’m still losing a ton. I’ve taken a lot of time to get better, and I can win most engagements but I still end up losing. Do you have any tips to stop this.
Play for the objective
Unfortunately it's hard to tell what kinds of mistakes you're making cause I haven't seen your gameplay. I will be making videos in the future about general/advanced guides on what mistakes players usually make in the lower ranks and how to get out, so those may help. I might also do VOD reviews if many of you want me to as well, so you could send in one of your replays later on. It's a little difficult for me to give you advice here though
Luna ult is 15 sec, I think because when she ult she can't do anything but dance 😂
can you, "step into the light...of peris" thats paris said weirdly.
3:44 in and only one guy is in the board..
So I soloed to gold on Namor. I’m above 50% win percentage. In silver and bronze I literally carry in either role. It seems to get kinda toxic in gold
Idk I didn't feel that way when I was gold but maybe cuz I'm on China servers.
From my experience, it was alot harder to carry games in Bronze and Silver and was alot more toxic as it really came down to how coordinated your team was. I lost 5 games from Bronze 3 to Silver 1, reached Plat 1 today from Silver 1 without a single loss dropping 40 to 50 every game. (I'm a Hela starlord abuser)
Now that I'm Plat 1, almost diamond solo queue, it's alot easier for me to carry. I consistently average 50 elims a game as players play more cohesively even without comms. People understand abilities and peel for each other.
Unlike lower ranks, where some games are just unwinnable, every game is more or less winnable in plat as the teams are a bit more even.
i reached grandmaster on mantis/groot
I can 1v1 wolverine on penny bros a goober.
o thats very nice,yes very good for a 3k subsc- *cartoon horn sound* whabitiwhat!?!? no subscribers???
Thank you so much!
I honestly don't think duelist are that good. Yeah some are great but I don't think their impact is as good as vanguard or strategist
Solo ranking is impossible. It's just win-loss-win-loss and it doesn't even matter how good you are cuz the randoms on your team will still lock Spiderman and go 2-6 for an entire match or you get 3 randoms who can't play duelist but still play it anyways and they play alone getting picked off the entire game. I'm Gold 3 right now on Console but Rivals isn't fun at all to play solo because of how aids the randoms are in the game
Dude people aren’t that bad in low ranks
Meh. I one tricked cloak and dagger up to diamond 2.
lol lmao even how you gonna put Peni, one of the few heros who needs a nerf in B kek
Are you seriously that bad in the game 💀
She's perfectly balanced
Literally just stay out of her web field and break the thing 💀
Please make sure you organize the heroes from left to right, powerful to least powerful, within each tier. That gives much more in-depth information.
I’d argue that doesn’t matter that much for this video because you’ll probably need to play different characters based off what your team is doing
A tier way too crowded
I did feel that too after looking back at it, but I think a lot of these heroes are that good in the lower ranks. I see your point though.
@@WaitForQew2 remember that a tier list should ideally create a bell-curve shape. You did that, but it could be a little closer to the shape. And don't be afraid to move someone if you change your mind mid-guide.
Dr strange should be up top he can basically stuff ults and is useful 100% of the time. He is pretty boring but easy to grasp and always makes a difference.