those are blue leds either dipped in or are encased in the phosphorus material that makes white leds white. This is a really nice trick, now im wanting to find some of these for some specialty lighting.
The small Walmart stake garden lights have used a very similar LED to these the past few years to get them to be brighter. The older version used cold white 5mm LEDs that wasn't very bright. The only difference between these and the one in the garden light is that only the tip of the garden light LED has the phosphor in it, while these are entirely phosphor. I've tried finding these LEDs on Ebay and other places with no luck so far. The closest I've gotten is the diffused/frosted LEDs.
Another common thing that causes battery drain in 03-07(classic) is the driver’s door latch... had to replace it in 2 of my personal trucks. After replacement no more issues 👍
I needed that info I finally found the problem terns out there was nothing wrong I just needed to wait until it went into rest mode thanks I can finely put my car back together I wish I watched this video a week ago could have saved me a lot of time there was a battery drain that I fixed but after I checked,it was still draining so I falowed the drain tell it led to the cluster and that's when I found your video
Let me just start off by saying this, that little quick current monitoring test you did to see if the cluster went to sleep is not nearly enough. You need to monitor the current consumption for an extended period of time. In most cases I've seen where the cluster drains the battery, its not that the cluster can't go to sleep, its that the cluster keeps waking up throughout an extended period of time. Monitoring the current just long enough for the microprocessor to go to sleep tells us nothing. I've ran into many cases where I would monitor the current consumption for a couple hours or more with zero current draw, and then suddenly the micro would wake back up and start drawing 400-500ma for no reason at all.
I'll defiantly keep my eyes open for that. I haven't run into any yet that wake it's self up (even during non-rushed filming repairs). I haven't had any come bounce back to me yet with battery drain issues. Now I wonder how long circuit board medics test's them for because they gave it the green light too. So for the ones you've seen wake up, were you able to fix it?
@ jeffescortlx, I have an 03 tahoe with the same issue. The battery goes dead after a few days and the gauges have quit working. Would you be interested in working on it? I cannot find your contact info.
@@zepar221 no I haven't. I will look into that thanks. I had suspected the cluster to be draining the battery after watching this, but I left it unplugged and the battery was still being drawn down. So, it was not the cluster. I think my gauges stopped working because of the plug in the back. Thanks again zepar.
@@zepar221 I have an 2004 Yukon that if I turn off the key with the Heater left on the battery goes dead. If I turn off the Air before the key the battery holds up. Never heard of this recall.
I noticed in different Gm 03-06 clusters models years or software version the fuel gauge bottom empty “zero” position is little different, so it’s best to put on the fuel gauge needle on during fuel gauge in “full” position to ensure its calibrated correctly
I've been pretty observant with the fuel gauge start setting throughout the years. For virgins it's always started one needle width below the E notch. For all 03-07 (classic) but there are exceptions for clusters that have been previously rebuilt/repaired/taken apart.
No more than couple days ago I did have the cluster when calibrating it using 1 needle width below red line it didn’t make it all the way to F. I guess there are different calibration revisions with different calibration ranges. It was a first time I did see such a short range.
That’s what I was thinking. This video and another one I saw both people just concluded that the cluster wasn’t the drain because it went to sleep after a certain amount of time. It’s probably intermittent
I have seen lazy after market auto starter installers splice the continuous and standby power wires together and connect them both to constant power causing power drain. It's an easy thing to spot if you know what your looking for, right at the auto start two cables spliced together.
Jeff thank you for your very informative videos. I really enjoy them and learning quite a bit. Just wondering what have you seen causes a drain on these clusters?
I'll maybe just make a trouble shooting video one of these days going over the common issues and where to take test points at. My CPU replacement video shows some areas to look. It's hard to cover these kinds of things with just words in the comment section. But for now I have a pile of work to get to.
I have a 2001 Yukon XL 1500 that has parasitic power drain. I've done the preliminary stuff, such as isolate the radio and accessory circuits, check for alternator/ecm faults, etc to no avail. I took the cluster out and couldn't see any signs of defects (burnt/open traces, signs of heat/discoloration, etc.) and all of the components on the cluster work. There have been some who have noted a current draw when these clusters "wake up" hours after turning off, and some have theorized the BCM is at fault. Here's my question: if I don't have/use keyless entry (due to security issues anyway), why couldn't I place one or two relays in place for those respective circuits, switched with the ignition? Is there any valid reason why the cluster needs any power after shutdown? I can see why one would want the BCM to have power, but I don't use or want any of those features (e.g., radio turning off with the door as opposed to ignition). Could I use a capacitor to supplement a relay to give, say, 2 minutes after ignition off to power the BCM or cluster, then deny power thereafter with the relay once the capcitor drains? I notice many folks having parasitic power drains and spending 300-400 bucks to replace/reprogram the BCM and fix clusters, when $20 in a couple relays and resistors/caps could be a solution. Opinions? Thanks in advance!
No need for cap's, relays and resistors. Just move the constant 12v wire over with the switched 12v wire. I'm not sure what the security function will do. Worth a shot.
Hey would I be able to send you my 2003 Silverado gauge cluster? The PRND123 Indicater light is very dim. Would you be able to fix it and how long/how much? Thank you.
Hi Jeff. I had to replace my cluster in my 2004 Acura MDX because it wasn't showing the gas level. I bought used cluster for that. Now I have less mileage on the cluster than the car really has. Are you able to add 50K miles for me and how much would that cost? I also have 2002 Buick Lesabre that doesn't show proper gas level, it moves all the way up or all the way down. How much this one would be to fix?
Please contact me via email for price questions. th-cam.com/video/T_2WnJMsZaU/w-d-xo.html But for the acura it would be easier to repair the old one than programming the new one.
Make sure you are turning the key all the way back until it clicks!!! That’s the issue on mines.. 😅 trust me the shift stick needs to lock along with the key so make sure you turn the key until it clicks or you see the shift stick move too
When I do cluster rebuilds, I repair/rework all potential issues, so I don't just focus on fixing one issue, but all potential issues. So if you watch my videos closely and replace what I replace and rework what I rework and clean what I clean, you'll have a 100% functional cluster.
How much do you charge to repair clusters? I have a 2001 Silverado that’s starting to have issues with the cluster. I’m looking to get it repaired asap.
My email address is listed under my channel "about" tab. It's visible to Windows PC users. If you mobile only you can leave your email address and I'll send contact information.
Hey Jeff, I was hoping you could answer me a question about a topic you brought up and said was your pet peeve in this video, I have a 06 Chevy trailblazer cluster board, when the cluster board is all plugged into the truck and you turn off the key where should the fuel gauge needle be? Should it be on the red last Mark or below it a little between the Red Mark and the E like you did on your different style Chevy cluster? Just wondering if it would be any different on my cluster? Thank you
@@jeffescortlx OK so plug the cluster into the truck, turn the key on, turn the needle counterclockwise until it comes up against the little resistance point and keep going further until it’s a little under the empty red mark, Correct? Thank you
@@wild8757 well no, because when it's turned on it's also going to start reading the sending unit value. It's going to try to point the needle to where ever it's supposed to point.
What else is wired into the circuit for the IPC/DIC fuse? Currently getting about a 60 milliamp draw on that fuse, but I don’t wanna just start replacing stuff and not fix my problem.
Jeff I watched you video and I also watched this video Chevrolet Truck - Battery Dies Overnight - Part II South Main Auto Repair LLC • in this video the repair shop states that silver migration was the reason for the drain on the battery. Can this issue be fixed if it is the cause?
What would you say is the average battery drain for a 2000-2005 car? My 2001 Audi drains 0.08-0.13A when a multimeter is connected in the battery +. I have a tracker fitted which constantly charges its 3.7 internal battery and with that disconnected the drain dropped to 0.04-0.05A. Its OK or I have a problem because my main car battery dies every 2 years, I've changed more batteries than oil in that car.
Hi I have a 2002 GMC Sierra 2500, it has 397000 miles and the cluster is starting twitch a lot and three of the gauges don’t work at all. I need to send it to you how much and how quick can you do it. Thanks
It's not common for the 99-02 to have gauges to completely stop working (unless they all stop at the same time.) You probably have sending unit issues. You should do deeper trouble shooting because sending the cluster off for rebuilding might not fix your problem. Depending on what gauges are not working, you may have comunication issues.
i have a 03 silverado that doesnt go to sleep with the key out the battery light and prndl stay lit and it kills the battery over night what do you think is up with it and i am looking for a repair service, thanks for the video
@@jeffescortlx that's fine I'm not in no hurry to fix it right now but I'm not having no issues out of the stepper motors and I got apart and there's dark spots around the 511 resistors
Pull fuses and monitor current draw to narrow down the culprit circuit. I have ran into 99-02 style that would not go to sleep. I ended up replacing it.
Please take note:This may help some with a battery drain issue,you cant see this becuase its in a blind spot!!! theres a fuse box, usually under the baterry compartment on gm's and chevys, the lostive cabke that runs from the altenator to the junction box, goes to the battery, "if that wire is loose, corroded or broken" you will not get substantial power to your battery, therefore it will drain over time, basically its not getting the full charge, because of the loos wire, this is exactly what was wrimg with my vehicle
not gonna lie, twas hoping the parasitic draw was from the cluster just to see hwat solution there was to be had. your diagnostic and repair videos on GM clusters are works of art with surgical precision and high attention to detail. anyways, i've yet to confirm my suspicion of battery drain from the IPC on my '05 but this was informative nonetheless.
I’m experiencing parasitic draw as well on my 04 Avalanche. I watched a few videos and I did a volt meter test on the IPC/DIC 15amp fuse and I did see a draw of 1.5 mV when the rest of the fuses showed the normal .02. I pulled the fuse earlier today and will leave it out until tomorrow afternoon or the next day to see if it’s the culprit
other? Jeff I have a 2000 gmc Sierra 1500 4x4 and the instrument clusters does no work the only thing that lights up is the service engine soon when I turn the key on the on position and that's it nothing works how much would you charge to fix it in a ballpark finger thanks
I have this exact board, but my display will intermittently black out, then days later come back on. is there a model number for this board where i can trouble shoot the problem? Every 06 silverado board i look up they only do stepper motors, or it has the different display that has the PRNDL in it. like the 05 model. i'm not sure if there is a resistor that dislodged.
Any experienced thorough cluster tech should be able to do some trouble shooting and take care of that issue. It very well could be a fractured solder joint. If you send it out somewhere just make a note of the problem.
I could be way off, but wiggle your dimmer knob or run it through its full range. My dash blacks out unless I disconnect the headlight switch. I had it apart and tried tweaking the slider/variable resistor (?) but it didn't help.
@@grabasandwich did you see my headlight switch video? The plug does like to feature where it solders to the board. But his issue is the display, not back lighting.
@@grabasandwich i can try that, but i know for sure it's not that it's dimmed, that was my first guess lol. But really it could be a loose connection in there too. my backlights are fine, just the VFD. i might just check all my solder connections.
That group of 510's is for the PRND321 only, so if that display is working it's not that. You probably have a issue in the hot wire circuit or it's power supply.
also very common in GM trucks and SUVs 2003-2007 for radio to cause battery drainage. Easiest way to diagnose which unit is causing it by disconnecting the units one by one for a while until finding which one is causing the current draw
I have an 06 trailblazer ss with a battery light that stays on very dim even when the truck is locked and parked over night. Pull the fuse for instrument panel and it goes out and the battery drain appears to go away. Everything else in the truck seems to be dead . Don’t believe it’s a bcm issue are this time. What fails on the cluster to cause this ?
jeffescortlx I’m mechanically inclined and have no problems repairing issues but never tackled a cluster before. Working at the garage we would always just send to dealer. I’m feeling brave. Is this repairable without much hassle? Was hoping to see a video documenting it but haven’t found it yet
@@caseypirro6359 Typically removing the corrosion is just one small step in a cluster rebuild. But if you just want to correct that single issue, you can pop off the back cover and gently scrub the corrosion off with some rubbing alcohol and a scuff pad. (It will look like dark staining)
I have a 2007 Buick LaCrosse my battery drained overnight sometimes just going into the store so put a different battery in it was starting great for two days then same thing happened with this battery I’m wondering if the problem could be from a bullet came through my back window and hit the corner of my dash went in where the gauges are I noticed only half the speedometer is lit up now can this be the battery problem I’m very frustrated
I'm having bit of a different issue with the left turn signal and hazards just making everything on the dash flash if the lights are off, nothing if they are on; right side works fine. Would replacing the cluster bulbs (twist on) with LED without resistors cause a fault? The left blinker indicator and rear bulb stay on with lights on, nothing in front at all. Replaced blinker relay, light switch and disconnected the multi-switch but the fault remained. Also, everything else controlled by the multi-switch works fine. Added LED bulbs to the front parking and turn signals as well, tried incandescent again to no avail...
LED's in both outside housings and in the cluster can cause issues. The fishers require a certain amount of current to work (older styles anyways). Also, check your hazard switch.
Hi Jeff, I have an 03 silverado with a parasitic draw. I bench tested my IPC and found a draw of 120 mA that is constant. I already replaced the motors and it hasn't changed. At times it will jump to 300 mA then sleep after 20 seconds... is this something you can repair, and if so how much would you charge?
Okay I see everyone comments on this and I do not see anyone stating how to fix this. Can you give me some details on how to fix it Jeff or what needs to be done please? Or if any of you other peeps know feel free to comment please. I seem to have this issue now on a 2004 cluster. Thanks James McDaniel
I've used Circuit Board Medics myself. Great company! Doubt they'd scratch a face plate and send it out like that. Just not their style or professionalism!
Jeff, I have 2003 cluster. Sometime on but 50 percent off. Your price is fine. Would like to send it To you for rebuild. Shipping address please? Thanks
@@jeffescortlx the shift indicator light dose not work and the odometer light doesn't work and this is what the customer brought me and the part number is LL2705 my under standing is it takes a lot of heat and uses a high temp solder
@@robertlahey9836 it's probably a 2007, not 2005. Different board. No it doesn't take special high temperature solder. I have plenty of videos on the 2007. This is not one of those.
@@jeffescortlx my friend borrowed his cluster and the light of the battery is not on but on my cluster the light is on . How can i fix it or how can i contact you to fix it to know where you are located
You wouldn't know anything about BCM in cars do you how they could act if bad or no good my car Quit running and the Radio Blinkers Dome light and wind shield wipers don't work and won't run .
jeffescortlx I believe it could be a short My Hazard lights came on one morning bye themselves I woke up walk into garage they where blinking and the car wasn't running or had key in it those don't too now too.
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Jeff rebuilt my gauge cluster around to weeks ago. Like brand new I highly recommend him. Well worth the money.
How do you get in touch with this guy please forward his information to Dewayne.Vannoy56@gmail.com
Please put your info out please!!!
Hello jeff love your videos!! How can i get my cluster rebuild by you and the price please!! Thanks
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His info please
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those are blue leds either dipped in or are encased in the phosphorus material that makes white leds white. This is a really nice trick, now im wanting to find some of these for some specialty lighting.
The small Walmart stake garden lights have used a very similar LED to these the past few years to get them to be brighter. The older version used cold white 5mm LEDs that wasn't very bright.
The only difference between these and the one in the garden light is that only the tip of the garden light LED has the phosphor in it, while these are entirely phosphor. I've tried finding these LEDs on Ebay and other places with no luck so far. The closest I've gotten is the diffused/frosted LEDs.
How much voltage you provide to test and what systems did it help you
Full explanation please
Another common thing that causes battery drain in 03-07(classic) is the driver’s door latch... had to replace it in 2 of my personal trucks. After replacement no more issues 👍
What were the symptoms did the lights stay on ?
Had same problem with my 05 Tahoe
I needed that info I finally found the problem terns out there was nothing wrong I just needed to wait until it went into rest mode thanks I can finely put my car back together I wish I watched this video a week ago could have saved me a lot of time there was a battery drain that I fixed but after I checked,it was still draining so I falowed the drain tell it led to the cluster and that's when I found your video
Did they ever find the drain?
Let me just start off by saying this, that little quick current monitoring test you did to see if the cluster went to sleep is not nearly enough. You need to monitor the current consumption for an extended period of time. In most cases I've seen where the cluster drains the battery, its not that the cluster can't go to sleep, its that the cluster keeps waking up throughout an extended period of time. Monitoring the current just long enough for the microprocessor to go to sleep tells us nothing. I've ran into many cases where I would monitor the current consumption for a couple hours or more with zero current draw, and then suddenly the micro would wake back up and start drawing 400-500ma for no reason at all.
I'll defiantly keep my eyes open for that. I haven't run into any yet that wake it's self up (even during non-rushed filming repairs). I haven't had any come bounce back to me yet with battery drain issues. Now I wonder how long circuit board medics test's them for because they gave it the green light too. So for the ones you've seen wake up, were you able to fix it?
@ jeffescortlx, I have an 03 tahoe with the same issue. The battery goes dead after a few days and the gauges have quit working. Would you be interested in working on it? I cannot find your contact info.
@@Skidmark75 did you have the heating/cooling blower fan resistor replaced under recall??? that's what drained my battery on 05 GMC truck
@@zepar221 no I haven't. I will look into that thanks. I had suspected the cluster to be draining the battery after watching this, but I left it unplugged and the battery was still being drawn down. So, it was not the cluster. I think my gauges stopped working because of the plug in the back. Thanks again zepar.
@@zepar221 I have an 2004 Yukon that if I turn off the key with the Heater left on the battery goes dead. If I turn off the Air before the key the battery holds up. Never heard of this recall.
Would you explain how you assemble the connection wires which is insert to the cluster to do test
I noticed in different Gm 03-06 clusters models years or software version the fuel gauge bottom empty “zero” position is little different, so it’s best to put on the fuel gauge needle on during fuel gauge in “full” position to ensure its calibrated correctly
I've been pretty observant with the fuel gauge start setting throughout the years. For virgins it's always started one needle width below the E notch. For all 03-07 (classic) but there are exceptions for clusters that have been previously rebuilt/repaired/taken apart.
No more than couple days ago I did have the cluster when calibrating it using 1 needle width below red line it didn’t make it all the way to F. I guess there are different calibration revisions with different calibration ranges. It was a first time I did see such a short range.
Do you remember what year it was?
jeffescortlx , 05 if I’m not mistaken
Crap. I've been living a lie.
Hey! Jeff i have the same promblem on my 03 silverado. how much do you charge???? Rebuild my cluster and green leds
Rebuilds are $120 plus return shipping.
My cluster goes to sleep but wakes back up every 30 seconds then goes back to sleep which drains the battery. You should leave it plugged in longer
That’s what I was thinking. This video and another one I saw both people just concluded that the cluster wasn’t the drain because it went to sleep after a certain amount of time. It’s probably intermittent
I have seen lazy after market auto starter installers splice the continuous and standby power wires together and connect them both to constant power causing power drain. It's an easy thing to spot if you know what your looking for, right at the auto start two cables spliced together.
Jeff thank you for your very informative videos. I really enjoy them and learning quite a bit. Just wondering what have you seen causes a drain on these clusters?
It's the microprocessor not talking correctly with the voltage regulator to shut it down all the way.
In that case does it need to be replaced ?
Naw, it's probably just not getting the 5v turn off signal.
What would the repair consist of?
I'll maybe just make a trouble shooting video one of these days going over the common issues and where to take test points at. My CPU replacement video shows some areas to look. It's hard to cover these kinds of things with just words in the comment section. But for now I have a pile of work to get to.
Thank You!
I have a 2001 Yukon XL 1500 that has parasitic power drain. I've done the preliminary stuff, such as isolate the radio and accessory circuits, check for alternator/ecm faults, etc to no avail. I took the cluster out and couldn't see any signs of defects (burnt/open traces, signs of heat/discoloration, etc.) and all of the components on the cluster work. There have been some who have noted a current draw when these clusters "wake up" hours after turning off, and some have theorized the BCM is at fault. Here's my question: if I don't have/use keyless entry (due to security issues anyway), why couldn't I place one or two relays in place for those respective circuits, switched with the ignition? Is there any valid reason why the cluster needs any power after shutdown? I can see why one would want the BCM to have power, but I don't use or want any of those features (e.g., radio turning off with the door as opposed to ignition). Could I use a capacitor to supplement a relay to give, say, 2 minutes after ignition off to power the BCM or cluster, then deny power thereafter with the relay once the capcitor drains? I notice many folks having parasitic power drains and spending 300-400 bucks to replace/reprogram the BCM and fix clusters, when $20 in a couple relays and resistors/caps could be a solution. Opinions? Thanks in advance!
No need for cap's, relays and resistors. Just move the constant 12v wire over with the switched 12v wire.
I'm not sure what the security function will do. Worth a shot.
Hey would I be able to send you my 2003 Silverado gauge cluster? The PRND123 Indicater light is very dim. Would you be able to fix it and how long/how much? Thank you.
Sure. Full rebuilds are 120 plus return shipping. Turn around time is 1-3 days.
Hi Jeff , how much to do the cluster on a 2004 silverado and how long is going to take ...?
Also can I drive the truck with put it .
Thanks
$130 plus shipping.
2-3 days.
Yes but not legally.
I never saw the gauges move when you plugged power in. Is that normal for a older unit?
They move. But not much because it's already at zero.
Hi Jeff. I had to replace my cluster in my 2004 Acura MDX because it wasn't showing the gas level. I bought used cluster for that. Now I have less mileage on the cluster than the car really has. Are you able to add 50K miles for me and how much would that cost?
I also have 2002 Buick Lesabre that doesn't show proper gas level, it moves all the way up or all the way down. How much this one would be to fix?
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But for the acura it would be easier to repair the old one than programming the new one.
So who scratched the screen ?
Make sure you are turning the key all the way back until it clicks!!! That’s the issue on mines.. 😅 trust me the shift stick needs to lock along with the key so make sure you turn the key until it clicks or you see the shift stick move too
Is there a common area/item that you look for if there was a parasitic draw on this cluster?
When I do cluster rebuilds, I repair/rework all potential issues, so I don't just focus on fixing one issue, but all potential issues. So if you watch my videos closely and replace what I replace and rework what I rework and clean what I clean, you'll have a 100% functional cluster.
BCM problem. Watch the heated seat/s come on by themselves or the side mirrors do their own thing
How much do you charge to repair clusters? I have a 2001 Silverado that’s starting to have issues with the cluster. I’m looking to get it repaired asap.
What issues are you having? Wouldn't want to have you send out your cluster if your having ground wire or sending unit issues.
It’s not showing prnd or the miles, it works some days and some it doesn’t other than that it’s works fine.
@@rtrick5040 $50 plus return shipping.
Do you have a Instagram or something? So I can get shipping address?
My email address is listed under my channel "about" tab. It's visible to Windows PC users. If you mobile only you can leave your email address and I'll send contact information.
how do you bench test your gage culster
Hey Jeff, I was hoping you could answer me a question about a topic you brought up and said was your pet peeve in this video, I have a 06 Chevy trailblazer cluster board, when the cluster board is all plugged into the truck and you turn off the key where should the fuel gauge needle be? Should it be on the red last Mark or below it a little between the Red Mark and the E like you did on your different style Chevy cluster? Just wondering if it would be any different on my cluster? Thank you
When the cluster is powered on, but not receiving a signal the needle on the fuel gauge should sit just below the E mark.
@@jeffescortlx Right, so when I plug it into the truck I hear it power up but when the keys off and out it’s not receiving a signal correct? Thanks
@@wild8757 but you have to have the cluster/key on for it to go to the home position.
@@jeffescortlx OK so plug the cluster into the truck, turn the key on, turn the needle counterclockwise until it comes up against the little resistance point and keep going further until it’s a little under the empty red mark, Correct? Thank you
@@wild8757 well no, because when it's turned on it's also going to start reading the sending unit value. It's going to try to point the needle to where ever it's supposed to point.
What else is wired into the circuit for the IPC/DIC fuse? Currently getting about a 60 milliamp draw on that fuse, but I don’t wanna just start replacing stuff and not fix my problem.
If your full size GM is a 03-04 it's safe to say it's the cluster drawing the power.
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Jeff I watched you video and I also watched this video
Chevrolet Truck - Battery Dies Overnight - Part II
South Main Auto Repair LLC
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in this video the repair shop states that silver migration was the reason for the drain on the battery. Can this issue be fixed if it is the cause?
Yes I can fix it. But 80% of the time battery drain is caused by fractured solder joints.
South Main Auto Repair LLC is the best electrical repair guy I’ve ever seen. Guys a genius when it comes to troubleshooting issues.
I once had a battery drain problem due to a LoJack system. Drove the dealer nuts until he found it.
Jeff, how can I get ahold of you if I want you to repair a cluster?
My email address is listed under my channel "about" tab. Visible to Windows PC users. If your only on mobile you can leave your email address.
I have a silverado 92 and I put a 2000 dashboard on it and I want to change the cluster from 1992 to 2000 how do I connect the harness pins
Would a 03 escalade likely have the same key off drain from the gauges?
Yes, any full size GM's from 03-04 are common to see this problem.
What would you say is the average battery drain for a 2000-2005 car? My 2001 Audi drains 0.08-0.13A when a multimeter is connected in the battery +. I have a tracker fitted which constantly charges its 3.7 internal battery and with that disconnected the drain dropped to 0.04-0.05A. Its OK or I have a problem because my main car battery dies every 2 years, I've changed more batteries than oil in that car.
I would say 130mA is too high. Typically the GM clusters will dip to 40mA or lower when in sleep mode with key off.
Hi I have a 2002 GMC Sierra 2500, it has 397000 miles and the cluster is starting twitch a lot and three of the gauges don’t work at all. I need to send it to you how much and how quick can you do it. Thanks
It's not common for the 99-02 to have gauges to completely stop working (unless they all stop at the same time.) You probably have sending unit issues. You should do deeper trouble shooting because sending the cluster off for rebuilding might not fix your problem. Depending on what gauges are not working, you may have comunication issues.
Have you done any 2005 Chevy Colorado or GMC Canyon cluster?
Yes, for bad stepper motors
On my 05 yukon I just found my oil pressure guage is stuck at 80. Far right. So I'm guessing that explains the battery draw parasite. The cluster.
Stuck at 80 means the oil pressure sending unit is bad. You can pull the cluster fuse and insert a current meter to confirm draw.
i have a 03 silverado that doesnt go to sleep with the key out the battery light and prndl stay lit and it kills the battery over night what do you think is up with it and i am looking for a repair service, thanks for the video
I'm sorry but I'm going to be out the last week of August and can't take in repairs right now.
@@jeffescortlx that's fine I'm not in no hurry to fix it right now but I'm not having no issues out of the stepper motors and I got apart and there's dark spots around the 511 resistors
99 GMC doing the same , could it be BMC?
Pull fuses and monitor current draw to narrow down the culprit circuit. I have ran into 99-02 style that would not go to sleep. I ended up replacing it.
Please take note:This may help some with a battery drain issue,you cant see this becuase its in a blind spot!!! theres a fuse box, usually under the baterry compartment on gm's and chevys, the lostive cabke that runs from the altenator to the junction box, goes to the battery, "if that wire is loose, corroded or broken" you will not get substantial power to your battery, therefore it will drain over time, basically its not getting the full charge, because of the loos wire, this is exactly what was wrimg with my vehicle
not gonna lie, twas hoping the parasitic draw was from the cluster just to see hwat solution there was to be had. your diagnostic and repair videos on GM clusters are works of art with surgical precision and high attention to detail. anyways, i've yet to confirm my suspicion of battery drain from the IPC on my '05 but this was informative nonetheless.
Pull cluster fuse, insert current meter, see if there is a draw with key off.
I’m experiencing parasitic draw as well on my 04 Avalanche. I watched a few videos and I did a volt meter test on the IPC/DIC 15amp fuse and I did see a draw of 1.5 mV when the rest of the fuses showed the normal .02. I pulled the fuse earlier today and will leave it out until tomorrow afternoon or the next day to see if it’s the culprit
I need that supply!
other? Jeff I have a 2000 gmc Sierra 1500 4x4 and the instrument clusters does no work the only thing that lights up is the service engine soon when I turn the key on the on position and that's it nothing works how much would you charge to fix it in a ballpark finger thanks
Could be your ground wire, and not the cluster.
@@jeffescortlx the ground wire is good and the blinker light do work also and one gauge works but not accurate
I have this exact board, but my display will intermittently black out, then days later come back on. is there a model number for this board where i can trouble shoot the problem? Every 06 silverado board i look up they only do stepper motors, or it has the different display that has the PRNDL in it. like the 05 model. i'm not sure if there is a resistor that dislodged.
Any experienced thorough cluster tech should be able to do some trouble shooting and take care of that issue. It very well could be a fractured solder joint. If you send it out somewhere just make a note of the problem.
I could be way off, but wiggle your dimmer knob or run it through its full range. My dash blacks out unless I disconnect the headlight switch. I had it apart and tried tweaking the slider/variable resistor (?) but it didn't help.
@@grabasandwich did you see my headlight switch video? The plug does like to feature where it solders to the board.
But his issue is the display, not back lighting.
@@grabasandwich i can try that, but i know for sure it's not that it's dimmed, that was my first guess lol. But really it could be a loose connection in there too. my backlights are fine, just the VFD. i might just check all my solder connections.
Do you you know why my prndl display is lit but my odometer is blank, could it be an issue with the 510 resistors? 03 Silverado 2500hd 4x4
That group of 510's is for the PRND321 only, so if that display is working it's not that. You probably have a issue in the hot wire circuit or it's power supply.
Thanks for the reply and the info, I'll check on the hot wire circuit and the power supply
Have a 2003 2500hd and a 2004 3500 Silverado with needed cluster repair. Where to send?
I can email over my contact information
jeffescortlx email jsams5horizonfence@gmail.com
Is there anyway to get in contact with you?
Through the "about" tab on my channel page.
also very common in GM trucks and SUVs 2003-2007 for radio to cause battery drainage. Easiest way to diagnose which unit is causing it by disconnecting the units one by one for a while until finding which one is causing the current draw
This time the customer claimed the power draw was on the Instument cluster fuse.
I have an 06 trailblazer ss with a battery light that stays on very dim even when the truck is locked and parked over night. Pull the fuse for instrument panel and it goes out and the battery drain appears to go away. Everything else in the truck seems to be dead . Don’t believe it’s a bcm issue are this time. What fails on the cluster to cause this ?
Silver migration corrosion
jeffescortlx I’m mechanically inclined and have no problems repairing issues but never tackled a cluster before. Working at the garage we would always just send to dealer. I’m feeling brave. Is this repairable without much hassle? Was hoping to see a video documenting it but haven’t found it yet
@@caseypirro6359 Typically removing the corrosion is just one small step in a cluster rebuild. But if you just want to correct that single issue, you can pop off the back cover and gently scrub the corrosion off with some rubbing alcohol and a scuff pad. (It will look like dark staining)
I have a 2007 Buick LaCrosse my battery drained overnight sometimes just going into the store so put a different battery in it was starting great for two days then same thing happened with this battery
I’m wondering if the problem could be from a bullet came through my back window and hit the corner of my dash went in where the gauges are I noticed only half the speedometer is lit up now can this be the battery problem I’m very frustrated
Remove the cluster fuse and insert a current meter and see if it's pulling power when it shouldn't.
Thank you I’ll have my son do that as soon as he gets back I’ll let you know
I'm having bit of a different issue with the left turn signal and hazards just making everything on the dash flash if the lights are off, nothing if they are on; right side works fine. Would replacing the cluster bulbs (twist on) with LED without resistors cause a fault? The left blinker indicator and rear bulb stay on with lights on, nothing in front at all. Replaced blinker relay, light switch and disconnected the multi-switch but the fault remained. Also, everything else controlled by the multi-switch works fine. Added LED bulbs to the front parking and turn signals as well, tried incandescent again to no avail...
LED's in both outside housings and in the cluster can cause issues. The fishers require a certain amount of current to work (older styles anyways). Also, check your hazard switch.
I heard that GM used lead free solder on the clusters and later the silver migrates and causes parisitic draw.
Yes.
Do you have a website to fix. Clusters
Not a good one no.
Donde esta para llebar mi closter?una pregunta mas usted cree q mi closter este dañado porque funde el fusible de iluminación del closter?
Sorry I only offer return shipping to the lower 48 states. It's probably not the cluster that is at fault for blowing the fuses.
@@jeffescortlx ok thanks ... Gracias
Hi Jeff, I have an 03 silverado with a parasitic draw. I bench tested my IPC and found a draw of 120 mA that is constant. I already replaced the motors and it hasn't changed. At times it will jump to 300 mA then sleep after 20 seconds... is this something you can repair, and if so how much would you charge?
Rebuilds/repairs are $120 plus shipping.
@@jeffescortlx great! I'd like to send it for repairs. How do I move forward with that?
@@adrianmejorado5250 My contact is listed under my channel about tab.
Do hVe have website and service price list?
No official website. But my contact information can be found in the top pinned comment.
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How did you get the data generator?
I built it.
Would you build one for a honda?
@@calebd8635 sorry that's out of my wheelhouse. But a good dealer level scan tool should do the trick.
No problem I test instrument clusters as a hobby on my bench 12v power supply and function genrator.
Okay I see everyone comments on this and I do not see anyone stating how to fix this. Can you give me some details on how to fix it Jeff or what needs to be done please? Or if any of you other peeps know feel free to comment please. I seem to have this issue now on a 2004 cluster. Thanks James McDaniel
Hi I have a 2005 buick rendezvous ant the tack gage needle is pointing straight down and wandering is any way to fixit
Yes, there is a way to fix it. I've already made a video on that van.
Thanks
Can you tell me what video it is
@@krisbrunk5748 it's the video titled "buick rendezvous cluster repair" on my channel.
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How do I get my cluster to you?
By following the top pinned comment link.
Stickler..
How can I send you my cluster I need help
Click on the link that says "for contact information follow this link" at the vey top of this comment section, directly next to your comment.
I've used Circuit Board Medics myself. Great company! Doubt they'd scratch a face plate and send it out like that. Just not their style or professionalism!
Yes I agree.
How much to fix my cluster in 99 Mitsubishi gallant es
I don't know. I've never worked on a gallant cluster.
U do want to try to work on it where do u want me to send it to u
@@jesusbarrera2270 you should send it to someone that is familiar with it. I don't have any parts, bench testing harness or wiring diagrams for it.
Jeff, I have 2003 cluster.
Sometime on but 50 percent off. Your price is fine. Would like to send it
To you for rebuild.
Shipping address please?
Thanks
My email address is listed under my channel about tab. Visible to windows PC users.
@@jeffescortlx ok, I will email u this Sunday nite.
Thanks.
Im replacing the LL2705 2005 Chevy Tahoe in the instrument cluster what type of solder do i use and where can i buy it at
I don't recall seeing that transistor in the 05 cluster. What did you do? And why are you replacing it?
@@jeffescortlx the shift indicator light dose not work and the odometer light doesn't work and this is what the customer brought me and the part number is LL2705 my under standing is it takes a lot of heat and uses a high temp solder
@@robertlahey9836 it's probably a 2007, not 2005. Different board. No it doesn't take special high temperature solder. I have plenty of videos on the 2007. This is not one of those.
@@jeffescortlx it is a 2007 i had it mixed up with a different truck but what type of solder do i need and do i need to use flux
@@robertlahey9836 I would recommend sending it to a experienced professional.
Forget...03' Chevy
Door locks will drain battery.
Yo tengo un problema amigo con mi cluster se queda encendido el testigo de la batería en mi cluster
It could be the small wire on your alternator. If the connection fails it will make the battery light stay on.
@@jeffescortlx my friend borrowed his cluster and the light of the battery is not on but on my cluster the light is on . How can i fix it or how can i contact you to fix it to know where you are located
@@marlorios8233 I'm located in Minnesota
Yo vivo en Houston Texas
Could you tell me how can i fix it or how can a resolved this problems?
You wouldn't know anything about BCM in cars do you how they could act if bad or no good my car Quit running and the Radio Blinkers Dome light and wind shield wipers don't work and won't run .
Bad BCM shouldn't kill the engine unless it's shorting out the data wire.
jeffescortlx I believe it could be a short My Hazard lights came on one morning bye themselves I woke up walk into garage they where blinking and the car wasn't running or had key in it those don't too now too.
@@whysoserious447 Its none of my business, but have you tried removing both battery cables and attachimg them together for 30 mins?
@@ccgrider1014 not for 30 minutes no have not tried that just negative cable for ten seconds..
@@whysoserious447 Try it, wont hurt...