Thylacine Sightings on Yorke Peninsula
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- Mark Taylor and Neil Waters of TAGOA investigate some of the thylacine sightings on Yorke Peninsula, South Australia, including a solid sighting by a group camping in sand hills on the west coast.
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Great to see folks putting in the effort to prove thylacines still exist - in the hopes of reviving the species. When you consider how they couldn't wait to eradicate them back in the day (they even had bounties for tiger carcasses!), it's heartwarming to see people try to correct the mistakes their forefathers made.
The thylacine was a critical part of its former habitat, playing a key role in the overall health & equilibrium of the environment. People back then didn't know any better but we have the knowledge today they didn't have because of their experiences. All these people ask for is another chance. And I respect that.
There's famous saying that I think perfectly applies to this topic:
"You didn't know what you had til it's gone,"
I'm not Australian but I fully support everything you're trying to accomplish. Wishing you all the best & I look forward to some great news in the future.
It is though the Dingo's introduction some 8,000 years ago played major role in displacing Thylacine on the mainland that why Tasmania is where it was last known. Dogs and wolves hunt in packs which makes them more efficient hunters and will kill other competitors not belonging to their pack. Each living thing is in competition with all other living things from a Virus to the Blue Whale and from moss to the Mountain Ash. It's a dog eat dog world out there. Over time dog eats or out hunts Thylacine to extinction.
Back in the late 1970's my cousin and I were on a fishing trip at the bottom of Yorke Peninsula in the Innes NP. All the roads back then were dirt and there were far fewer people around. The area has numerous sandhills and dense coastal scrub. We were returning to Marion Bay from Browns Beach in the middle of the day and came across this animal crossing the road around a blind bend. It stopped in the middle of the road and looked at us for a few seconds before trotting off into the bush, so we got a good look at it. No mobile phone cameras back then! I looked at my cousin and said 'Was that what I think it was?' and he replied 'Yes'. We called into the ranger station and talked to the Ranger about what we had seen - he laughed at us. I am convinced to this day that I saw a Thylacine! It would seem to me that with all the cleared land on the peninsula, Innes NP would be definitely an area where they could still survive. I would love for you to prove that they do still exist on Yorkes!
Mate, feel free to email me if you want to chat about your encounter, dontbelievemyeyes@hotmail.com Neil.
As they are here now, they were here in the 70s
@@DebiSunset Yes, I'm sure you are right, even though it was years ago, I know what I saw!
Hello captain frank,I saw the same thing,same road ,almost identical report ,we were on the road between Browns and ,the Pondalowie turn off.The sighting was at night though,late at night coming back from a successful Salmon fishing session.Still think about it to this day .
@@chepachii Yep, I'm sure that there would be plenty of others who have had a similar experience there - mind you, despite literally hundreds of trips to Innes since, I have never seen another one!
Having watched a Thylacine through a rifle scope in NSW back in the early 70's, I have no problem believing they are still out there, but I do wonder why, with the abundance of affordable Trail Cameras available, there is no new video evidence forthcoming.
We have many trail cameras out their & had some interesting shots but no full view thylacine yet..we have them placed in many sighting areas
HOPEFULLY THEY ARE STILL OUT THERE, MAYBE SOME WERE FILMED OR PHOTOGRAPHED, AND PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM DONT WANT HUNTERS TO COME. RJ
This is the best & professional video that I’ve seen🦘
Following from Oregon, wishing you guys luck. I enjoy watching the search, hope it succeeds in the end.
I saw a Thylacine on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland back in about 1995. At first glance it looked a bit like a mangy dog (from a distance; I was moving slowly in the car and the animal was trotting along the road from right to left at the T-junction). As I got closer, it's "gait" looked more like a fox's, from the way it held its tail and loped, but the base of the tail was very broad and tapered down a lot; had stripes running around the tail (the tail really resembled what a kangaroo would have in shape and how the animal held it slightly up off the ground). The "mangy" look seemed to be because it had other striped markings on the body. The ears were relatively small; it had a large square jaw that resembled a Pit bull dog, but different profile (I only saw it in profile as it trotted). It had a fairly broad chest, but that narrowed a lot up into the flanks. I got a really good look at it. As the car got too close, it glanced my way and disappeared into the bush (about 100 metres from my home) so that explained why some of my chickens went missing...Told my brother when I got home, and he said "Oh Yeah, guy up the hill said he saw a Thylacine, but we didn't believe him".
Great sighting. Thanks for that. Neil
I lived on the yorke for a few years, it's beautiful. Deffinetly suitable for thylacine. Great vid
I really hope this animal can be proven to still exist as the knock on effect will help all native species in trouble. I love Australia and its native flora and fauna, i wish you all the luck in your hunt, keep up the good work.
Well, I hope if you do find them, they will be left alone and not captured for zoos or labs.
I grew up in Tassie during the late 60s and into the 70s. I lived in a remote area in the north. Every hunter back then had seen the thylacine at some point or another. They are certainly not extinct, and have been widely reported across Victoria also. So no surprises that there are sightings on Yorke Peninsula.
There is not a drop of water that exists on the whole of the Yorke peninsula, that you could consider a natural water resource. way way way more chance of a tassie tiger existing in the Flinders rangers than yorke peninsula. In my opinion , its a tough harsh place in the summer months for anything to survive
@@UtWeak_CustardFarts they will use the dams for water & being mostly an organ & blood devourer it gets enough of what it needs in its kills..Dr Litchfield said our marsupial wolf is chiefly a coastal predator..& yes you are right about the Flinders too,we have alot of sightings their..remember this Marsupial does not stay in a territory,it keeps on the move constantly having a backward facing pouch allows it too take its joey's everywhere not having to "settle" in one spot for too long
@@marksupialwolf1111 Yep but those dams didnt exist before european settlement and there is no way a large carnivorous dog like animal could get enough fluid, to enable it to hunt, or migrate during heatwaves. Sorry I dont believe it to be possible!. but thats the good thing about opinions!! everyone has got one
@@UtWeak_CustardFarts that's right Simon..just thought you should know there was at least 3 major fresh waterholes the indigenous people used on the Yorke peninsula(as they would need water) but settlers polluted them.
@@marksupialwolf1111 Major?? really !! where. Excuse my un-educated ignorance and lack of factual knowledge about Australian indigenous culture in the area, but it would be nice to know mate.I know that Point pearce has a large indigenous population. As a South Australian, and a regular visitor to both Yorke and Eyre Peninsula I'd love to know if the Coastal Wolf is known knowledge carried through their culture! being only three waterholes they wouldv'e crossed paths surely....Best of luck finding your Wolf you gotta seek to find
Top quality vid guys, very well put together and very well edited, interesting sitting repots especially the last one of the lady seeing it twice 👍👍 thank you for posting and putting all the hard work in, for all of us that can’t see or be close to you guys down there.
There's been animals that have been rediscovered after being
confirmed extinct for centuries even as far back as the 1800s
And I hope one day the Tasmanian tiger will make a reappearance
Me too, it would be sensational! In NZ, the Takahe, a decent size flightless bird, was thought extinct for decades before being discovered in an obscure South Island swamp.....It certainly happens.
You guys probably already know about the Aboriginal rock carvings at a waterhole in the top of W.A. that depicts two dogs mating, one of which is a Tasmanian Tiger. I saw it in the early 70s, lots of other people who worked at Tom Price saw it as the waterhole was a popular swimming spot.
@@andrewstrongman305 the fact remains that the carving is there, one with stripes and one without.
I live on the Yorke Peninsula and I'm telling everyone straight up,... there are NO Thylacine living here. It's so farmed, fished and used by tourists you can hardly find a kangaroo!!
I've found heaps of kangaroos,wombats etc and many of the people who live on the Yorkes say they have seen a thylacine so you keep thinking that.
Rubbish, I saw Skippy and Fat Cat there all in one day.
@@gavinjesse2066 I hate to be the one to break the bad news,...but fat cat went extinct ☹️
@@gavinjesse2066 im sure you did,what about Winky dink,you can't leave Winky out!.
Your wrong
I have not actually seen them but have heard them camping in the Watagan Mountains NSW. In the early 1980's I saw a dead young one after flooding on the side of the road as I was on my way to a meeting. It was on the side of the road near Toronto Country Club not far from the turn off to Awaba NSW. My mum was with me at the time but she passed away in 1991
why didnt you pick it up and take it to a university. a liar perhaps?
Fascinating, i found you by accident, but having watched, have now subscribed, thus giving me yet another marvellous channel. Lets face it, you stand a far better chance of actually sighting one if you go to their known areas, rather than doing what a lot of people do and that is sit at home and winge from their armchairs.
Great stuff. Compelling footage. Lets hope. I wish you every success.
It's getting closer to finding one, this year traveling around that area on holiday home on the one to photograph it, wouldn't that change minds cheers, mate, Neil 🤠.
They are definitely out there
Man I'm rooting for you guys.
Well do Mark with the work that you are doing. You have changed much from Gawler High it's really nice to know that some of these animals are still around. I hope their numbers grow
Thanks mate,yeah it's amazing where life's journeys will lead you..thanks for your support.
Do yall take any measures to disguise your own scent when placing cameras or Investigating sightings? I imagine these animals have very keen senses that have allowed them to evade humans for so long.
Hi Jerry yes we do mate,I showed the tea tree oil spray I use to spray over the trail camera & I where I've been stepping or eucalyptus oil sprays work too.
@@marksupialwolf1111 ah guess I missed that sir. I'm a hunter here in Arkansas and I know that if I'm not extremely careful with my scent, deer and wild pigs won't return to the area/camera I want them to. Thanks for your reply :)
@@jerryjerrylahngenhairy4724 yeah thanks for sharing Jerry,we always have the deer come back but we have no wild pigs in these areas but we try hard to cover our scent, Thylacines however seen to be shy but curious at the same time not bothered by human smell so much as they are smarter than the average predator
@@boganvogue6694 that's a typical response & what most people say until they see one
First thing I thought of.
20:02 Great footage of the way the gait changes left vs right
There is hope, keep up the good work
I have seen one and could tell the right people where to look
So email me Ned, dontbelievemyeyes@hotmail.com
Thanks for looking.
I wrote a something on you Facebook site about 12 months ago about a possible sighting in N.W. Victoria. The sighting took place about twenty years before, and to re-iterate briefly, "It was very late at night, maybe 2 or 3 in the morning, driving back from work when I saw an animal in the head lights about one hundred metres ahead. I slowed right down hoping not to hit it. When I was nearly level with it, it bounded away, not like a dog but more like a wallaby or roo. I came almost to a stop and it crossed the road in front of me. it was back on all fours, bounding forward with its back legs. It cleared the fence on the other side of the road, again like a wallaby or roo, and disappeared into the dark paddock. It had a broard elongated head and very thick tail, and powerful back legs. But I can't say it had really noticeable stripes. I can't say it was a Thylacine, but definitely was not a dog".
Thanks for sharing cydery
They had very thin tails. Your description of the tail dismisses it being a Tasmanian tiger.
@@jordanbrettabbott they had thick at the base tails & it thinned out too a laterally compressed tail..yes tassie tiger tails are like that but the mainland we still don't know for sure but the Mundrabilla thylacine shows us what one species tail looked like & we had many species here on the mainland..the video is too hard to tell as it looks different in some of the frames whilst in motion
Sounds more like a dogman
@cydery do you have video evidence? if so, please feel free to reach out to me. email is in my bio. Ashley George A+E Networks
Here’s a couple of tips for those who claim to have sighted a Thylacine or other extinct animal, use a decent camera (i.e. any mobile phone made in the last 5 years), take photos of the animal, then go and find its tracks. Place an object of a known length next to the tracks and take clear images from at least 4 different directions.
If your trying to attract a native carnivore, you need to use an appropriate lure - a native rodent placed in a position where it cries out in distress w.outdoor be the best option. Or you could try a bacon Sanger, your call.
In areas of sightings, you should invest in HD cameras with good battery life that run continuously 24hrs and is immediately loaded and saved on cloud memory through the internet, place the camera on a high point tree overlooking a large area of a landscape. I'm not entirely sure what the current level of technology is outthere to make this possible depends I guess on the signal to a satellite or tower of some sort. Probably would make it difficult in the back woods.
TRUE. the BS we hear about so called "sightings" is a cause of ridicule., no matter hiw well the video is produced. Cameras are easy to come by, one just needs to see some videos about animals which are rarely sighted, such as the snow leopard. Unless there is hard evidence of a sighting with a clear, unambiguous photo, people need to refrain from giving others any hope unless they can produce CLEAR< CONVINCING EVIDENCE> Reports of "sightings" without evidence have been going on for far too long I certainly hooe the thylacine can be proven to still exist, but I don't want false alarms which end up a disappointment.
I’m hoping and wishing that the thylacine is still out there, that a small group survived the barbaric slaughter of their species. I hope they’re thriving as an “up yours” to those that wanted them gone. Poor things, being demonised.
I know where there's some lovely animals ,there's a story from Tasmania a girl was ill and the father was checking in on her check the fireplace and there was one asleep in front of the fire the father returned and shot it ,the girl cried out I can't recall exactly but something like my friend he's been coming every night to look after me while ive been sick. There's also Thylacaleo here where I live and they also are highly empathetically incline lovely animals it brought a sheep skin to my camp and hang it over a bush I'm sure it wasn't there the day before and a few nights later came to my camp and walked around my tent sounds crazy I know and I was half asleep and I may have dreaming but I'm sure it was real around the year 2000 a farmer had a Thylacaleo in his chook yard and a hunter from Africa came didn't find a Thylacaleo but did photograph a thylacine and its pups there was a huge story in The local newspaper from front cover six pages in.I just hope no one captures one and just respect them.p. S lookup the. Rila Martin photo
I think there might be some in Papua new guinea
I can't help but feel it's just a matter of time Neil! I can't wait for the day I search thylacines and find, YOU FOUND IT. With works like this going on, it's inevitable.
Mr. Waters and his team on the ground are the speacial forces of the Thyla Army!
Cheers Jorge, there are a lot of trolls on TH-cam mate. Don't let them sway your resolve. Neil.
I’ve lived in Moonta all my life my family has been here for over 150years I have walked every square inch of the sand hills hundreds of times and been shooting on many property’s and never seen any thing but foxes rabbits cats deer and Roos Rex Chapman trapped a big dingo at cape Elizabeth in the late 70 or early 80s this is the only unusual animal I’ve ever heard of in the area
Thanks for you insight into your own experiences Ben,I expect foxes to be seen & feral cats & im not surprised about the dingo..i couldn't fit all the thylacine sightings from the Yorke peninsula we know of in this video & im sure some might be mis identification but when someone has an up close & personal sighting it changes their understanding..Matthew Flinders heard dogs barking on shore at Corny point but as we no there were no wild dogs on the mainland then & apparently pure bred dingos don't bark?..we know Thylacines bark like a fox terrier or sound similar too the coughing bark of a fox,these animals are rare so its only if your in the right place at the right time you will be privileged to see one,there alot smarter than anything we have on land and most hunters we know that have seen one get a fleeting glimpse in the scope,i work close with Mick Brown,check out his TH-cam video in our group.
Please no shooting the Thylas. Thanks!
@@icancuall2037 there is no chance of that from us..we've heard of them being trapped with no proof obviously coming forward, if someone shot one they would be in big trouble & as far as I know the protection for it is still in place..we want it protected properly but obviously the government want proof..I hope one of our camera traps gets the 100% shot but even then there will be doubters that it's been played with!
@@marksupialwolf1111 let the doubters do what they do best. It serves them to be continuous non believers because what they don't believe in can't hurt them, well in their minds at least.
@@marksupialwolf1111 The Simms family have been on the peninsula so long half the place is named after them. There is even a book on Benny Simms and his life as a fisherman here. If ever a family was to have seen a Thylacine on the Yorke Peninsula it would have been a member of the Simms family!
I had a most unusual sighting just outside Cann River years ago, both my wife and I saw it, I contacted 2 Thylacine groups at the time and no one was interested, about 2 years I emailed another group just to let them know what I saw, again no reply. I can only assume all of these groups did not believe that the Thylacine existed on the mainland and I only ever gained an interest because of what I saw. Anyway no big deal, I stopped telling my story a long time ago due to the weird looks people gave me, I guess it was just the weirdest looking dog I have ever seen.
I believe you Grahame & willing to document your sighting if you change your mind,Tagoa has created a platform for you too share.
Grahame, you can always email me @ dontbelievemyeyes@hotmail.com
I am happy to share my story with you no probs, people do know when they see something that does not make sense.
@@grahamethompson3270 thanks Grahame please get in touch with hNeil above on his email,I look forward to hearing about it.
Perhaps the original witness happened upon the Thylacine because he was by himself _quietly_ making his way through the scrub
great video thanks boys
While I admire the tenacity of the searchers, I think the quest is a triumph of wishful thinking over reality. For the Thylacine to exist there (or anywhere) would have required a breeding population for years, and yet there’s been not a single piece of irrefutable evidence, like remains or a good photo in spite of massive efforts to find such evidence. We just have to face the fact that our ancestors made sure this magnificent creature was wiped out.
I agree,it's like the alleged sightings of big cats in the UK, a few out of focus pictures,no remains of carcasses,lack of footprints etc.
I'm deeply sceptical about these alleged sightings.
I'm sure by now the Thylacine would've been seen properly.
Maybe one day the evidence will be seen,but I'm not holding my breath on it.
@@wattyler6075 it has been seen properly over 5000 times on the mainland & tassie sightings included for just over 100 years..we've had many extinct animals that have been found in recent times where no sign of life was found..the grass parrot is a classic story of a Lazarus species..maybe now in these recent times one will be captured on camera..they are rare but they are their.
Damn. I spent quite a few years on a sheep and cropping property on the York Peninsula. Was always going walkabout up and down both sides of the peninsula to find the best crabbing beaches. Probably been through wherever this is too. I was only looking out for snakes and my dog's were too interested trying to find any foxes walking through this type of stuff. Would've kept my bloody eyes up and not down.
Trying to picture where it is. My property was off the Kadina Tickera road near Alford. Saw plenty of foxes but not too much native vegitation or wildlife left for one to live in and predate on, mostly all gone but I can see how it could stay virtually unseen. A lot of tall wheat and barley crops towards harvest time to skulk through unseen at night. Stuffed for the rest of the year but.
Hopefully with the rewilding efforts the fox can be a thing of the past and the native animals return
My problem with this is - How could anyone living in Australia not know what a Thylacine looks like??? Lost me on that.
We are not educated on thylacines ever possibly being on the mainland only in Tasmania,here on the mainland we get told that you've just seen a wild dog with stripes or a dingo cross with stripes or a "mangy fox" so hence the confusion, some people need time to process what they've just seen but when they without a doubt no what theyve seen then they come forward..we do have references that the mainland thylacine was roaming when settlement began.
Yeah, and why would you feel compelled to pack up camp and go home. Wouldn't your natural curiosity make you want to stay and get more evidence. Did they take pictures of the animal or animal tracks? As usual, it's people wanting to get their 15 minutes of fame and maybe capitalize on it somehow. I'm surprised the didn't see a Yowie!, but maybe that's just too much and so less convincing.
@@bipolarbear9917 I interviewed Cameron and Christopher and I am convinced that the description they give fits a thylacine & so do they,the why this & why that are not relevant now..the thyla will present itself when it chooses but like you said why don't people know when to have their camera ready to get a photo of the most rare elusive predator in the world.
@@marksupialwolf1111 Humans love mystery, and there are plenty to choose from. Unlike Bigfoot, the Yowie, the Yeti, the Chupacabra, the Lochness monster, UFOs, extraterrestrials, etc. we know that the Thylacine was at least a real animal up until 85 years ago, so it's possible that it could still exist in some really remote area, but the fact that there's only scant circumstantial evidence I'd give the chances of Thylacenes living today at considerably less than 1%, but not zero.
It's a similar story with the so-called Blue Mountains/Lithgow Panther which is also plausible if it's an escaped animal, but how these large creatures continually elude humans and successfully breed really pushes the bounds of credibility. Like Carl Sagan used to say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Grainy photos and video, or easily faked plaster casts of footprints are not extraordinary evidence.
Everyone knows the story of the Coelacanth, but that was in the ocean where we've only explored a few percent of the deep ocean. If you're Australian, I'm sure you'll know about the Wollemia nobilis pine trees which were thought to be extinct until David Noble discovered a small stand in a remote (and still secret) canyon in the Wollemi National Park. So, it's remotely possible there's a small pocket of Thylacenes still holding out.
I just hope you guys are genuine and not just looking for gullible members of the public to fund your adventurous lifestyles. There are too many conmen and fraudsters like Bob Lazar, David Icke, Steven Greer, Erich von Däniken, Deepak Chopra and Bob Gimlin, peddling pseudoscience, paranormal and supernatural phenomena, cryptozoology etc. nonsense.
@@bipolarbear9917 we are the real deal & it's a non for profit organisation,I use all my own monies, I make nothing only have a 100% passion from researching & sighting info that they are still out their..my interest began in 2017 when we had a number of sightings close to my home town..research the thylacine museum and look at our research in our group showing rediscovered newspaper clippings from the late 1800's by a Dr Litchfield & what they knew about the mainland thylacine already.
you have to go west VIC and you will see them like i did two years ago.
Check out the Australian Yowie Research site [AYR] . They do an interesting interview with an old ex-copper and i,m sure from memory he saw thylocenes in the top end. Sorry though, i cant remember what episode.
Very confident I witnessed one in the Yorke Peninsula probably 10yrs ago in the plains near Ardrossan, driving back from the Stenhouse Bay. Have seen 10000 Foxes, this was very different.I remember joking it was a Tazzy Tiger at the time and thought nothing more of it.
Greag doco lads! I know youre all working hard to try recreate your image after the little scandal with public opinion but I think youve done a great job here. Had never seen that last clip before and its shocking it hasnt had more exposure, its a beautiful scene if nothing else even. I would suggest listening to forrest galantes story of talking to a guy who apprently kept one as a pet in papua new guinea where he believes there are fuctionally extinct pockets of thylacine still living but are unable to reproduce. Happy hunting guys and good luck!
Kidscode3 If they are unable to reproduce … how did he keep one as a pup?
No disrespect to you kidscode3, but Forrest Galante is a fraud and a rip off merchant. His Production company that has cancelled his now EXTINCT show tried to literally rob TAGOA 4 years ago with their measley offer to use 4 of our clips for $100, all the while bragging on their own webpage how they have Produced millions of dollars of content for foxtel. They then attempted to add some credibility to their offer and came back with $2,000 for the use of 2 of our clips, but the damage was done and they were once again declined. This might have something to do with his obsession with stealing content from TAGOA for his "wildlife" show under the "fair use" clause. According to this article here, he has been caught out for Claiming to have "found" a Camen in South America that was discovered a year earlier by a "real" researcher. If Forrest actually spent as much time in the bush as he does brushing his teeth, he might find his compass and then find his way back home....undark.org/2020/03/04/colombia-reptile-parachute-science-forrest-galante/?fbclid=IwAR1LpHxN1xc3BuOeZZTH3GHzG2T8LCfOE2vrZvwMOMpPZ-9Z9RwOHlrnIk4
AND as far as a "little scandal" goes, learning about the anatomy of how a Pademelon actually moves and what features cats do not have that Marsupials do, would even further better the chances for people like Mr Galante to know what he is looking at instead of reading from a script and following the "likes" rather than knowing the biological features of an animal. He might be better served being the poster boy for Colgate...
It sucks to see two people I enjoy having a controversy over each other. I wish some people could just move on and get along.
@@ericvandenavond8748 @Eric VandenAvond I wish some people could discern the difference between a fraud that steals other peoples work and a genuine person attempting to do good work....Maybe one day you will be one of those people.... undark.org/2020/03/04/colombia-reptile-parachute-science-forrest-galante/?fbclid=IwAR1LpHxN1xc3BuOeZZTH3GHzG2T8LCfOE2vrZvwMOMpPZ-9Z9RwOHlrnIk4
I once seen an Animal while driving home to Moonta from Adelaide that I thought looked like a Thylacine, but I dismissed it as a large fox, would be nice to think it was genuine.
Cool! That is a thylacine. The tail is stiff like a thylacine too!
I thought I saw a small one between minlaton and barkers rocks crossing the road just before it was getting dark. About 2-3 months ago. I have spent an extensive time on the roads on the Yorke Peninsula and seen foxes, cats and dogs at night many, many times, this was definately none of these.
No surprises there mate. Neil.
Thanks for sharing G W
I was listening to an article two to three days ago about a new process which
is not yet totally proven about extracting DNA from the air of animals in the area.
It struck me that if it was done in this area then any unexplained DNA would be
worth investigating.
Yes I read that article Gerald it would definitely rule thylacines in or out of that area & when finally confirmed the protection can be put in place for this rare endangered animal but in saying this the amount of sightings we get coming in would suggest they are very slowly on the rise.
Great stuff! I'm doubtful of the purported thylacine video though. Tail looks too flexible and metatarsals might not be right proportion - still very intriguing - especially the overall cadence.
I agree! The cadence is the one bit that I cannot place. As well as the proportion of the hind foot, the angle of the muscles/skin coming off the back of the heels is wrong. I have viewed this footage before. In all the old Thylacine footage I have been able to find that skin angles backwards towards the tip of the tail, like it does in a kangaroo. With this individual, the angle is more vertical, like in a member of the Order Carnivora. What I want to see are footprints. They tell the story.
Genius effort
I really want the thylacine to still be alive. That short-sighted humans have had such a devastating effect on other creatures is very sad. If we can aid in the recovery of what we thought we made extinct, would be lovely. If it turns out that they are not extinct, they are still quite threatened, and should have laws passed to protect what is left of them.
Hi Marjorie,the protection act for the thylacine is in place & current just waiting for when we can/or someone else can bring forward the "proof" the powers that be want,the way we see it instead of their being a waste in money towards cloning the thylacine they should be investing in proving this & protecting it properly,which is why we bring awareness
@@marksupialwolf1111 Awesome news. Thank you for your reply, you made my day guy.
Love your work. Where did the name joeys come from.
Thats what Thylacine young are called
Most of us really want the Thylacine to still be around but it seems like things are beginning to slip into the Bigfoot category.
i don't get it ...if you see something face to face , then your friend who is with you and laughing at you sees the same animal and stops laughing , how is that like the BF category? By the way BF or Sabe people have had hundreds of thousands of sightings by all kinds of people from all walks of life. Most of whom won't go back into the bush or any woods after that. You believe in your tv signal even though you have no idea how the thing works.
@@icancuall2037
Where is the proof??
@@notsosilentmajority1 not here yet but just keep an open mind, people thought the coelecanth was extinct only to find out it is not, eventually. Patience my friend , is a virtue.
@@icancuall2037
I still have hope that the Thylacine is still around somewhere on the planet but when we keep getting reports that cannot be proven or shaky video o blurry photos, it does start to remind of the BF scenario. I am keeping faith my friend, glad you are too.
Ok, a change of local. 20 years ago partner and I were driving on the Fleurieu and an animal bounded (didn't hop nor run) across the road in front of us, (around midnight). Both of us had a WTF was that moment. Had to go and look at pictures of animals that fitted what we saw. The gait was unusual, no stripes seen, but the tail and the rear of the thigh fitted the pic of a Thylacine.
Did we actually see one? Looking at the last clip the gait of that animal was the same as we saw
I saw exactly the same as what you describe less than a week ago.
Long thin tapered tail, stout muscley legs, sand colour body
@@matblack8479 does make you wonder what it is we and others are seeing. i can find no other animal that fits what i saw.
@@rogergibbs2937 I highly suspect it's a thylacine- maybe a subspecies with very faint markings, similar to how tiger snakes have varying stripes depending on the region
And it's possible that the inevitable genetic changes of a small breeding population are becoming more evident...
@@cristiewentz8586 You raise a valid point.
One report I have read is that they had a slow breading cycle.
When you shoot video on a phone HAVE THE CAMERA HORIZONTAL!!!!
I"ve kept my mouth shut for many years. I don't want to be called an idiot or people saying I was just seeing things. But back in the early 80's I saw something while driving thru the Devils Marbles north of Wauchope (in the NT). It was at night but I wasn't tired and, it wasn't a dingo or a dog but it had stripes.
There aren't many sighting from the NT due to the sparseness of people, but we had another sighting from the beach in Arnhem Land about 3 years ago early one morning. The people of the Stone country told me that the Thyla's kept mainly to the Escarpment and the Dingo's were down on the floodplains. Neil.
The video , it is not a dog , 99% sure . I have had different breeds of dogs all of my life . The stride , the tail posture and the whole shape is not very dog like . I’m pretty sure you’ve got a Thylacine on camera right there !!!
Find a track, in that sand it should be possible. Find some scat. Find some hair. Find anthing other than unsupported "sightings" reported by people who are already convinced.
We've found all that & have some hairs needing to be tested ,maybe research a bit more you will find this out
The best way you can help this animal is to stay away and not reveal the locations of sightings
This is what i have been saying for years...
I think it's important to avoid wishful thinking, but you shouldn't close your mind either. if it's extinct, how do you explain all the reported sightings? and that clip at the end certainly seems to match up. there may be a relict population persisting in remote areas of the region, who knows.
wow! Great work really hope u find one soon!
Wait a sec the young blokes thought they saw campers - but there were no campers - then went to the spot and saw a tiger - and now there’s no tiger ?
There was a tiger it walked past him!!
I am sure Gary Opit would be keen to kept up to date with your project and would love to somehow add his 10c worth.
It would be nice if thylacines did exist but people should bear in mind how many positive sightings of Bigfoot and other very unlikely creatures there have been. The fact is that eyewitness accounts can not be taken at face value given human psychology and the unreliability of visual memory. That isn't to say that they don't exist, but it doesn't look very likely given the lack of concrete evidence. I find it odd that a creature supposedly so elusive decides to nonchalantly walk by someone without concern or crosses roads in the presence of cars. It doesn't usually take that long to capture rare and elusive creatures known to exist on camera traps yet we never seem to be able to get Bigfoot or thylacines on camera. That is odd given how many people claim to have seen them.
The extremely rough terrain both of the Tasmanian interior and the vast forests and mountains in the North American continent could easily hide healthy populations of “extinct” creatures,
Well said brother..... 👍 from all of this, i think wat you repiled made more sense then the video nd the sightings. People wana live in fantasy world nd string others along.
Great content 👌
The gate of the animal (thylacine) in Paul Day(?) video was not unlike the gate of it's cousin the Tasmanian Devil.
Very true
ankle joints are way too high to be a thylacine. theirs are very close to the feet.
I understand that some Australians are quite good at tracking animals and humans. Why not engage their services to quietly and methodically look for tracks, spoor etc rather than just blundering around in the scrub in hob nail boots scaring the rabbits and anything else with ears?!
Great advice & in all fairness you don't no what lengths we go to on how we track these animals we certainly don't leave much of a footprint, this trip was purely to show the Professor the sighting areas & share the testimonies of historical sightings up to recent sightings,one day we will release how we track the thylacine.. qe bring in the use of night drones thermals night vision & hunters ideas plus any indigenous guidance & information is always welcome and we've had some over the years
@@marksupialwolf1111 Great. If they exist they are obviously very timid, mostly nocturnal, and well used to keeping out of sight.
They’re not extinct
Could a thylacine have bred with a dingo or genetically impossible? Being that this is South Australia would expect dingoes would have run off any thylacines.
Absolutely not. Thylacines are Marsupials, Dingos (dogs) are Placentals. This is an incredibly deep divide in Mammalian taxonomy. This would be like opossums mating with squirrels. Marsupials give birth to very undeveloped offspring which mature in a pouch before emerging, placentals retain their embryos in a uterus and then give birth to offspring of various levels of development but all much more developed.
@@justaminute3111 you are spot on,thanks for answering the question,yes there is no chance a thylacine marsupial can breed with a canid or feline.
Hi sprocketrocket07 the answer to the other part of your question about dingoes running out thylacines I believe they would of kept right away from each other,we have the indigenous people of Northern Territory viewed they both had their own place in the habitat and I know of a farmer from here in SA at Mongalata that trapped dingoes after World war 2 and sometimes trapped thylacines, that story will come out on TH-cam in the near future & he believed they both roamed the plains with enough food available but the thylacine was rarer in numbers then
Well done, guys!!! More scientists need to be like Dr. Weinstein, and get out of the office and out to the field more often.
I am a veteran Dog and fox/ rabbit trapper/shooter. I do not live far from this area, so watch me catch it soon.
Did you catch it yet
My belief had been shaken but listening to some of the sightings that don’t claim to be thylacine sightings…just sightings of an unknown animals are pretty convincing
But where is the Yowie?
I really don't think they knew what Thylacines ate back in the old days. I think they assumed Thylacines were apex predators because they resembled dogs, and had vicious looking teeth, but possums have similar teeth and they're not predators. After seeing the old film of captive Thylacines, they appeared to be in very poor condition. If their diet was more varied, that would explain the malnourished appearance of the animals. I believe they should include some dry cat food and chick peas, or Nutella, when baiting the trail cams. Maybe even some regular yeast bread. The location looks good for an elusive creature to hide in. I hope they get a good image eventually.
Red eyes and stood on two feet? That's dogman, from descriptions.
Ive researched Dogman sightings in Australia & to me they sound like Thylacine sightings,Thylacines stand bipedal as well as being quadrupeds.
I'd like to believe the TT is not extinct but since none ever turn up in the roadkill, I don't
Look up the Mundrabilla thylacine from 1966 and then keep in mind a dingo was found in the same cave 20 years after the thylacine and was way more decomposed
Us old wildlife photographers know where many species of animals that have supposedly been extinct survive and have breeding colonies but I can tell you without any problem we won't tell you. And if you spend enough time in the bush knowing what to look for you'll find them to. And when you do you'll be like me
Thanks for sharing Brian and we too know where they roam but have been asked in confidence not to mention names & exact locations and we do keep this confidential..we have a family that have known for 150 years they have a family of thylacines on their huge property that have continued until this day so makes you wonder how big the pool is,we know of a group of farmers who see them in the mid north & are willing to let them be we know of indigenous peoples who have shown Neil where they still roam,our concern is that if the numbers are slowly building up going by the sightings then we need one presented to the powers that be which will be unfortunately a accidental shot one thinking it's a fox or a roadkill but once one is then we can move on with the protection of the species before its habitat is wiped out..its about conservation..I would love to get that 100% shot to prove it but these I don't want in a zoo they need to be left alone too roam but acknowledged to be respected by all.
@@marksupialwolf1111 thanks Mark for the nice reply you must be one of the very few genuine ones. I didn't know where to colonies of paradise parrots are breeding haven't been back for decades. Unfortunately the big fires that we have just had have done more damage than most people think. Yes within 5 to 6 years it all looks good again but the wildlife is missing in most instances I have set marsupial traps in some areas it didn't even answered one trap in a month. Even know Wildcats. One thing I have seen on the increase is ferrets very saddening. Have you seen any Goulian finches in your travels in the wild. When I started many decades ago we seen them in the tens of thousands a friend of mine went looking about a decade ago couldn't find one. I hope you are safe with Covid
I hope they could prove it's there but, I still don't understand why they don't use "real" hunters to set the trail cams. Spraying the very spot to the camera is not a good idea, just spray odors in front, some distance, to make it come and trigger the cam. A real hunter would know that and do it properly. Still, I sure wish those cams were left for months, not just a few days.
Thanks I hope we can prove its their but as I've explained in other comments we use real hunters for advice but this was a trip showing the sighting areas & casually setting up cameras for 2 nights not months & who says we don't have cameras their!..we spray the camera with the smell of tea tree "plant" spray around to take our human scent off the camera so why would you question that we were told this by hunters ! The other "animal" scents we spray or put down are away from the camera to lure the predators in..
I had a hard time hearing the conversations over the to loud music
There's 20 min of my life I'll never get back. You should change the title of the video to, "Guy makes click-bait video for ad revenue, T-shirt sales, and Patreon donations"
Wow, must have a pretty boring life then if that kept you captivated for 20 minutes yet you came off feeling so hard done by. I'm sure John want's to know how you feel about his video and our non existent Patreon account you reckon we have....If you want a T-shirt then you could've just gone to the shop on our website instead of suffering so long and hard....Sorry I don't have a spare 20 minutes to donate to your already depleted life. Neil.
Here's another minute you can't get back by reading this,Jesus loves you
This is like the stories of Australia's exotic big cats, the rumours always start with sightings.
Plenty of historic documentation if you know where to look..ive had witnesses come forward stating they've seen a large black cat shot hanging on a block and tackle on the SA border..we have written reports showing when the laws came in for exotic animals here in SA some of those who had private collections let their animals go.
I'm not sure if the horrible music interferes with listening to the narrator or the narrator interferes with hearing the music. Either way, thumbs down as I wanted to know more about thylacines.
So you already knew about the thylacinus Yorkellus and the sightings all over the Yorke peninsula..what music do you suggest?,I used to be in a Heavy metal band would that suit?
@@marksupialwolf1111 I don't care a lot about the background music as long as it's background and I can actually hear and understand the speaker(s) in the video. Since I want to hear what's said the music is too loud. Any music that prevents that in a video is horrible.
Thank you for asking. So many who produce videos don't seem to understand or to care that the sound is done in such a way that many of us simply can't hear and understand what's being said.
So they didn’t take a camera with them .
They weren't expecting to see a thylacine, ive tried getting a photo of a fox when it shows up in front of us & it's easier said than done.
they really are half canine,half kangaroo arent they,standing up on hind legs,that beautiful hopping motion of that silhouette footage, i do believe peoples testomonies,why would people lie,and i dont really think you could mistake one could you,its very unique! wonderful.,thankyou ,the calls they make too on your speakers,wow!
Y not use Aboriginal Native Trackers to find one and film it?
You should be able to find out whether any are left using environmental DNA testing techniques. Works in the water!
Not good cinematography in early shots. Far too much rapid camera movement almost made me dizzy.
You have night vision video recorders that can be placed all around there ...... until someone captures a picture or video of one .. there extinct ... but it would be great day to find that they did survive
I believe they are still hanging on thats why we are trying to bring awareness
There was a lot of excitement a few years ago about reported sightings and videos of the extinct Ivory Billed Wood pecker. Though some of the images and videos looked like possible Ivory Bill sightings, none of the shots were clear enough for a 100% positive ID. I would say if no one can produce a good image or video of the Thylacines in the next year or two, then probably it is extinct. The hype over the Arkansas Ivory Bills is now over, no more fuzzy videos of pileated woodpeckers.
We also have a creature called a Sasquatch in California. Lots of people swear they are real, but no clear videos or authentic physical evidence.
Dreadful music, very distracting from the voices
I hope that too much publicity doesn't compromise the creature's hold on life with scores of "scientists" out hunting for them.
Hi Colin,its good to have Phil on board who is understanding to land management, if we can prove the thyla still roams & then get its protection act in place then we can protect it properly and make sure the habitat it roams stays in place.
Any update
REALLY annoying music, cut it out, it's way to loud!!!
What type of music would you suggest?
The proof is in the pudding, and there is no pudding.
There's plenty of pudding but if you don't eat your meat you want get the proof in the pudding
no tracks
The Government doesn't want it found
When will people realise this fact?
Is the short version that they didn't actually find one?
They've found more than one on the mainland..look up the Mundrabilla thylacine and keep in mind that 20 years later they found a dingo in the same cave way more decomposed
@@marksupialwolf1111 Interesting, possibly. Or possibly it was an ancient carcass when found.
leave them alone men, we drive them to extintion. if there is a chance they are still there just leave them alone
we ignore them and their habitats become smaller and smaller until it's too late to protect them, there's 2 sides to this research
If there are tree there couldn't they install trail cameras.
I have had trail cameras & still do have cameras on many trees for many months in these areas.
I just wish they would have some concrete proof sittings with no photos or video that's even close to being clear or focused you can't even tell what it is 99% of the time
They are extinct,but people need hope and something to do.
@@Amatronix999 opinions vary.