Tasmanian Tiger Caught on Camera? (New 2024)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- The Tasmanian tiger, also known as Thylacine, is an animal I looked for on Extinct or Alive. It is one of the most well-known extinct animals, and this man named Zack may have caught it on camera. Could this be proof thylacine is still alive?
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What do you all think? Is this legit or a hoax?
hoax
I'm torn on this one. So much for and against it. Best of luck and I really, really hope it's legit!
Really hoping this is real but I just don't want to believe anything before experts have a look at the pictures.
Looked legit until that last picture.
i think he created AI photos
I bet some random dude has a perfect picture of a thylacine that they think is just a wierd dog
Lol yea
Once its actually found and appears on the news, people gonna start sharing more pics of their weird dogs 😂
There are people who are probably aware of them but keep it a secret. Shit if it was in my backyard, I would too. Humans are destructive by nature.
It's very hard to believe tbh
@@F4834N People have already painted their dogs to look like thylacine.
Y’all remember like 5 years ago when people would say “pics or it didn’t happen” and now most photos are fake
then we needed videos and those can’t be trusted anymore either 😭
Pics or it didn’t happen is easily 10+ years
We’re now in an age where nothing can be taken for granted knowing how easy it is to manipulate images. I would have preferred he’d filmed it, but the images do look legit tbf. He sounds genuine and someone who just wanted to share what he’d captured, but just doesn’t want the attention. I can accept that, he could just be a very private guy.
We have phones taking 4k tick tok videos, but most seemingly meaningful photos and videos of big scientific breakthroughs look like they were taken with a potato
Get of ya bum and take you box brownie down to the park and picture something.@@ahastar1141
In 1983, the American media mogul Ted Turner offered a $100,000 reward for proof of the continued existence of the thylacine. In March 2005, Australian news magazine The Bulletin, as part of its 125th anniversary celebrations, offered a $1.25 million reward for the safe capture of a live thylacine. When the offer closed at the end of June 2005, no one had produced any evidence of the animal's existence. An offer of $1.75 million has subsequently been offered by a Tasmanian tour operator, Stewart Malcolm.
I am Tasmanian and have spent 50 years in the bush.I call BS. You cannot confuse Darwin with Hobart to start with. He could not have forgotten this basic fact.
this dude in the interview guna get so much hate for his personal vendetta against forrest lol its a wrap fake stuffed toy
dudes bouta get all kinds of dox and hate, rip
pray for the guy
Looked like a dog to me
You could be correct. But to be fair he isn’t from Tasmania and was on his way to the airport in an area he had never been in according to his story. But it is super suspicious.
sounds like a yank
@@AreUmygrandson Confusing Darwin with Hobart (4500km north) is like stating I landed in Texas but I actually landed in Washington state. Darwin is tropical yet Hobart cold temperate. IA at work I believe. Is the Tassie Tiger still alive, possibly but this is not proof, not by a long shot.
Dude found an animal extinct for 80 years and doesn’t have an ounce of excitement
That’s the biggest red flag of all
why not , i mean the animal just look like a dog , nothing crazy , but it does have massive meaning of human conflict with animals
Because he's shitting out his mouth. Idk abt yall but I think this is fake and he's just some goofball trying to get attention
@@ukley___ ya agreed
Some people have known for years they aren't extinct.
Can you imagine if they brought a Thylacine into a Vet.😂
That vet would be NUTS. So many questions
Yea haha what would the vet even say
“Can you chip my dog” 😂
Or made it their pet lol
That would have been LEGENDARY!
As a Tasmanian whose father use to go bushwalking and swore he heard these I don't doubt it. Even that one pic where the nose looks gone, it is actually there, but it's blending in a bit. In the same photo don't stress about how wide the jaw is going, I am fairly certain this animal could dislocate their jaw when they needed to. In these shots it's likely being done as a threat response. My mother also says her and dad saw one run in front of their car in this same area years ago. Dad's been dead since 2012.
@PathosBedlam
I call hoax, but his sketchy bullshit story.
The rest of your comment i agree with.
Was in ag sales to all NZ and Aussie. Asked a more remote farmer client, he swore by fact hia uncle had nearly run one over late night mid 1990s
Right about the nose, phones can do weird stuff, but the thyla could not dislocate it's jaw, these are fake
@@marcopaulo_ it couldn’t dislocate the jaw no, but it can open the jaw very very wide for animals that appear “similar” such as a dog or similarly body shaped animals. There is a video clip of one yawning you should see if not already.
@@natalieholmes8013 yes but the one in these pics has a dislocated jaw
They are also native to Papua New Guinea. I saw one in a remote village in 1975. It was less than 10 feet from me. I never told a soul because I didn’t think anyone would believe me.I only recently found out that they were native to PNG
I think he's scared to say that they hit it with the car, which for me explains why it was laying down and they wanting to take it to a vet and "rescue it"except when they got too close it ran away
Trueee
ooh interesting theory
That could really explain all the awkwardness, interesting thought.
Good thought
Great deduction Watson!!
Don't understand why wanting to remain anonymous is an issue. The internet is a fucked up place
I mean weird but also can't be judging someone who doesn't want to be on the internet
Gotta agree with this but at the same time this guy seems really sketchy
@@johnh5760 yea can't disagree with that
It's his buddy so his face is not important.
I had the same thought, it can equally be perceived as a red flag if someone wants internet fame for the photos…I’m still watching the video, but that was my initial thought….
So a Proud Tasmanian here travelled far and wide in our beautiful state. So fun fact the only international flight we have land in Hobart is from New Zealand. Darwin is a capital city about three states north across the bass straight, I had high hopes for this video but his geography doesn’t match up. A simple good search will reveal travel times about his locations and the whole flying shenanigans, cheers 👍🏼
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I don't think he wants people to know what flight he was on because they could use it to identify him. If they hit the animal, it makes sense why he'd act like this.
@@some_random_wallaby It would be impossible to find him from knowing what airport he flew out of. But on Trents note of no direct flights from Hobart, there also aren't any from Darwin. The only flights from Aus to USA are from Sydney, Melbourne and Perth.
The second to last photo showing its mouth open at an unnatural angle is proof this is just an AI render. He probably used “creepy, weird, dark, thylacine” as the prompts 😂
@@timesfly1081 I think they are fake BUT that is a realistic angle for the Thylacine.
This guy lost all credibility when he said he flew direct from LAX to Hobart. The ONLY international flight into Hobart is from New Zealand.
He didn’t say that. He said he flew out of JFK airport in Chicago. By the way, there is no JFK airport in Chicago.
@@bigl9478😅
This flight path doesn’t make sense. He says they drove to Chicago and went thru JFK. Jfk is in New York. Even if they drove to new york they would have to go thru california and then take a plane to Australia. It’s a 12-15 flight from LAX to Sydney Australia alone.
Doesn't he say "driving to Darwin international" I'm impressed
The moment he said Darwin airport I knew he was lying.
He didn’t seem to know if he departed from New York or Chicago
Either way, he would have had to catch at least three different flights to get to Tasmania from there.
The idea that you could fly direct from New York or Chicago to Hobart is absurd.
The number of people commenting on this video that seem to think it plausible that he somehow just forgot he had to get on and off three different planes during his 16,000km journey from the USA to Hobart is insane cope from people desperate to believe this ridiculous story.
Forrest, I really think this father,son duo hit the Tasmanian Tiger because he said there were no other cars on the road for like a hundred miles. Also, the Tasmanian Tiger would not be laying on it's side in the grass in that position if it had not just been hit. I think the only way he got photos of it at all was because the animal was dazed from being hit because tigers are very elusive You heard him say the total encounter was about 30 seconds. Why would they automatically want to call a vet if they had not hit it. I believe the young man and his dad think they will be criticized for hitting the creature. Also, his personality is not unusual for todays youth.
Thank you Forrest for sharing this story.
That perosnality is not common for today's youth man, Im sorry 😂
Hi, You need to give this young man the behifit of the doubt. I don't believe it was hit but rather it was eating road kill.
@@BrendanAngadiyait actually is. People under 21 are literally more stupid then the last couple generations bc they are raised on screens
@@jessiesalisbury7044what on the floor lying down
Well said
Get him to send you a screenshot of the photos in his camera roll, so you know they’ve been taken on that phone
"Photo details: Screenshotted on:this date."
Sorry, but that is ridiculously easy to fake and would prove nothing
This is fake. The guys explanation of the situation and why he was taking photos doesn't make sense. Seems like he's phoning in his explanations. I don't believe this is legit.
@@ignore2466 Than how is it proven? Just assuming this was legit. I agree it isn't real.
@@jn1540 ive met people like this, he seems to just be socially awkward, the think that tells me its fake is there is no direct flight from America to Tasmania, he even went into detail about how his dad only took the direct flight because he dosent like layovers , so yeah fake
The amount of gullible people who don't do research on this and just take it as a fact is just wild 💀
Yah I’m having to go around educating these idiots. lol.
A study in August 2011 Journal of Zoology found that the Tasmanian Tiger could open their jaws to approximatel 90 degrees but were too weak to kill large prey. Sadly they were hunted to extinction as they were thought to be killing sheep at the time. This fact means they were needlessly killed. 😢
No shit r3t@RD
the theory that they accidentally hit the animal with the car is interesting. explains why he's so restrained and akward about it
I don’t think he said they hit it.
@@keithdeal209 im saying he doesnt want to admit he hit it, thats why hes so reserved and awkward about it.
It would explain why the animal let them get so close, and it would explain him saying they thought about calling a vet
Yeah I’m not buying they randomly saw something in the grass at night and stopped everything to look at it
Imagine if you hit the meybe last one of a so caled extinct animal. The hate would be way to much
That would be one explanation for his behaviour. But I think more likely is that it's a hoax, the pics seem AI-generated.
If you look at them there are lots of similarities with pics of Thylacines you find when you use Google.
That's how that works, the AI takes the information from the available pictures and smashes them together to create new pics.
So not only would it use the actual old photos of Thylacines, it would also use the illustrations and kids drawings you find in a Google search as a basis.
And that's how you end up with weird anatomy and jaws that don't seem to work right.
Only his dad could help legitimise the story in an independent interview
We need him to know this or see this
"His dad" is too disappointed in his son
Check the flight plan that will end all of this is real of fake
Not really.
Not going to happen and then you'll know it's a big joke.
With the large mouth being a VERY tell tale sign for thylacines it seems pretty "convenient" that he caught that tell tale sign on the camera.
The fact that it looked like shit and he DIDN'T INCLUDE it was the nail in the coffin.
I wish Forest had just asked asked him; "You guys were traveling and saw what you thought was a dog, what made you want to take pictures of it?"
Great point.
forest is understandably blinded by hope. me too, but this question also grinded my gears .. i wanted to yell it at the screen.
Wellin the video he says he saw it and knew it wasn't a dog thinking it was a dingo or something weird so he took some pics.
The question everyone is thinking Forrest is "did he send the originals? and did the dates match?" Pls give an update
10:23
@hungryforlunch no thats the first mention of it but at the end of the interview Zack agrees to send him the original photos not the copies
Right, there should be geo location on iPhone photos.
You can modify the metadata
Who died and made this fellow an instant expert.where is all his pics .
As a Tasmanian, theres one major inconsistency ive noticed.
The grass is way too green for the area the photo was taken. For the past few months it hasnt been raining much, so the grass is quite yellow/gold at the moment.
The area I'm in is the "tropics" of tassie and its still fairly yellow at the moment.
Ita mainly yellow/gold from the northwest to far below hobart.
The entire southern midlands is yellow.
Thats the main issue ive noticed.
@@whitefeather731it was start of fall
And going back to Darwin to fly home? 😂
modern phones tend to over saturate images in night time photography, that could be the case here.
Whitefeather, it's "fall" down here ATM, known as Autumn in Aus at least. So it's gonna be yellow grass, cold, windy and horror.
Craig, yeah nah the Darwin thing was a massive oversight on his part. Just to get anywhere else from Taz, you need to stop off on the mainland at least once (from memory).
@@whitefeather731different seasons in different parts of the world.
Some people have Christmas in summer.
The shape of the thylacine with his stripes, rod-like tail, shape of his face and how it’s slightly different from a dog, his coloring despite the crappy phone camera, the eye shine, and then the mouth opening. That was done as an act of aggression I believe I read years ago and other pics of them doing it before extinction show them doing it often. I think it’s legit.
ripped into all the images with every editing tool i have and i cant find any glitches, spent just as much time investigating random dark areas as i did the animal and the poor quality stays consistent even down to blades of grass an other random ground obstructions, the time it would have taken to fake such poor photos would send ya mad.
unless they used a real dog of adequate form with some kinda disability an defective brain they dressed up, only way i could image such real images.
Direct flight from New York to Hobart… yeah, right pal
Also, "JFK or whatever" in Chicago? I don't know. The pictures are somewhat compelling but i have to question why he didn't take video with his phone and i have to question why the photos were such poor quality in this day of stupid-high resolutions of cameras in phones. I think it's entirely possible that this guy either made a 3D model of the animal, took some pics with a grass background, or made a little model of the animal and took some photos. Blurry photos in 2024 and easily fake-able photo software with AI assistance literally everywhere nowadays, he'd have to show some better "proof" than this to get me to believe it.
You should send this to Corridor Crew to look for any sort of VFX/photoshop technique
💯
I’d love to see the collab episode
Yes, they do such good work debunking photoshopped and edited images of “real” aliens/cryptids.
No this is a really good idea. Even pulling the camera data would really help.
There are professional places that do authenticity. Linked in my comments somewhere around here.. Love the Corridor Crew but they don't offer letters of Authenticity. Going to want to go to the big boys on this and not TH-camrs.
Born and raised in the state of Tasmania.
A lot of things this dude says/things that he is leaving out make me think he has never stepped foot on our island, let alone seen a Thylacine.
What things?
Exactly
Yea care to enlighten us foreigners?
@@matthewgordon9341no direct flights to Tasmania from USA for a start.
And drive to Darwin from tassie???
Surprised I didn't search for a channel of yours. One of my fav Joe guests ✌🏻👍🏼. Subbed immediately 👍🏼✌🏻
The most convincing photo is actually the one of its arse as it's walking along the fence, because people who fake a thylacine, or mistake a dog for one, usually don't get the fact that they had no appreciable buttocks and their back end segued smoothly into the base of the thick tail. If this is a fake it's an extremely good one.
what's most suspicious to me is that he "chose to take pictures" of an animal he "thought was injured" under the assumption it was a dog and not knowing it's an extinct species
Edit: I want this to be real
He actually said that he took the pictures because they saw that it was clearly a very strange looking animal.
he said that he thought it was not a dog 20:16
he's showing signs of autism i have a friend who has it and he takes pictures of everything no joke so kind of adds up
Sorry to burst your bubble, but google "Archesuchus thylacine"- he's an artist, makes incredible lifelike models & put out photos of a thylacine he'd made the day before these photos appeared.
@@reeceward8681I've said this on multiple threads. I think every single "weird" thing comes down to being non-neurotypical.
As a neurospicy lass myself, I recognize my kin.
I need more extinct or alive episodes ...actually I need any new forest shows
I need more extinct or alive that isn't a guy using existing research and eyewitness accounts from native peoples and using their coat tails for his own material benefit
Why
Soon has he has the cash he should just buy the naming rights and run it from his youtube channel. I bet it would be hella popular.
@@willfungusman8666when?
@@chris90skwhere?
Hey! I just found this channel but im very impressed by your work! Im from Bulgaria (country in Europe) and im really interested in those kind of things like extinct or rare animals, mostly like Thylacine is... That's exactly the reason to sub for your channel - the Thylacine, i watched the video about it that was before several months and then i saw this one... The Thylacine "extinction" and itself have been haunting my mind for so many years, cus dude that animal is impressive and its so sad that it meet his end of the hand of the humans (like a lot more animals did) just before almost 90 years... In my opinion there is still a chance a population of these little marsupials to be out there, like, the woods in Tasmania are not that easy to be studied, and if we take the fact the Thylacine is probably a night animal there is high chance of it to live out there... (My suggestion is, if the Thylacine is still alive his population is very small with 100 to 1000 individuals max). I'm really impressed with this animal and one of my biggest dreams is to go in Tasmania one day (or even Australia and New Guinea, that came in my mind after your video for these 2 possible locations) to look for it and find evidence for his existence today. Im still in the Univercity and i hope, one day i will have the chance to visit Tasmania to look over for this unique creature. Admirations for your effort!
The entire thing falls apart when he talks about the travel lol
The kid seems like he may be on the autism spectrum. He acts like my oldest boy who is 19 and has autism. He can tell you what he did and what he saw but as far as names of places he doesn’t retain that information very well.
I noticed this as well, as an autistic adult
He's definitely a bit off. Hope it's not a hoax
100%
I also agree that he sounded like he was on the spectrum. Especially when you consider his interest in specific things like turtles, and the way he used certain words to describe things. Autistic people may latch onto a certain term like torch in place of a flashlight which a lot of people here seem to have an issue with him using.
I’m also autistic and totally agree
If I was a betting man I'd say fake, but I so want it to be real
Same here, unfortunately.
It's A.I. would be so easy to type in picture of it in the dark on cell phone camera.
@@AdamStarr816nah ai usually get small bits of information wrong you’ll see some deformation and inconsistency
@@AdamStarr816I thought so at first too, but the truth is AI is awful at generating thylacine photos. I mean truly abysmal. They put the stripes everywhere… around the head, by the eyes, on the legs, etc. it almost always happens. Or they get the face totally wrong. These photos, for all their faults, get the features borderline flawlessly.
If I were to bet on how they were faked (if they were faked) I’d say either digital art or actual painting. I could see a very talented artist making these and saying they’re grainy iPhone photos.
@@silentassasin7989the pictures did have small things wrong with it though
Hi guys I just caught a plane from LaGuardia to Hobort International & I'm seeing Tasmanian Tigers everywhere
The angles don't match. He would have to have been standing over it, taking pictures of it laying on the ground in some of those to get that angle, which means he would have been 2 feet away.
That’s what made me extremely skeptical. Like where’s the nose in one of the pictures? The one where he would have to be standing over it(like you said) but he was apparently 15 feet away. The green background is just so weird with no detail whatsoever. Plus who takes pictures of dogs on the side of the road (because he thought it was a dog at first). Why pictures and not a recording. Finally, the last picture is just feels extremely odd especially with the angle he took it from.
@@MahiMahi4757-zr9zf unless like most rural roads with a drop off gutter.
ripped into photos with my editing tools and i was not sure but then i focused on random spots of the photos and found even the most dull bit of ground was consistent with the image as a hole and trust me thats is gonna take so bloody long, that long it would b near impossible to hole the consistency of work.
i would put money on that the photos are real and its some kinda dressed up disabled dog of adequate form
As an ecologist, wildlife surveyor and someone who has spent a lot of time in Tassie I would say put the original photos on a google drive so people can see the metadata (although that can be manipulated). There are no direct international flights from the USA to Tassie. Anyone who goes to Tassie is confronted with images of Thylacines EVERYWHERE- it's the government logo, it's on beer bottles, it's used in advertising widely. The journey from Hobart to Stowport would take many hours, especially at night when there are animals all over the roads, including wombats which you DON'T want to hit, it's literally not safe to drive over 80km/h at night in Tasmania. There are bucketloads of camera traps deployed all over the place in Tassie for wildlife monitoring, Thylacine fanatics and farm security and NONE of these have picked up convincing images of Thylacines. I think it's likely that Thylacines persisted in Tassie until the 1970s, (after speaking to people in aged care who had seen them) but they were a creature of the open woodlands, not the dense forests. No road kill, none shot, none on quality camera traps. I call this a hoax, sadly.
AI generated image probably or altered
Agreed
I tend to agree sadly. In a time where areas are more heavily populated and everybody has a camera....
I was thinking the same thing. No way there is a direct international flight from USA to Tassie..,
He was on the mainland you clownfish. Northern Territory.
Hearing this dude tell this story sounds like a 3 year old explaining that they just saw a unicorn
😂😂😂😂😂
To be fair spotting an extinct animal is basically the same thing
90% of students presenting in HS and even uni sound like this
Probably autistic
N it shat rainbows 🌈 🦄
Lmao this dude can't even remember what airports he went to a few weeks ago 😂
This is jacked.
A kid from Chicago calls a flashlight a torch?!
I disagree that a desire to stay anonymous is a red flag. If anything, wanting to be known for it (wanting the fame) would be a red flag.
This is very true.
True but he didn’t even want to show his face to him without the public thing
i agree
Agreed!
@kindallnight1615 What reason does he have to trust that Forest won’t expose who he is if he starts getting pressured, What if someone offered forest $1 million for this kids identity! There are plenty of reasons not to show his face to anyone!
Not wanting to show his face is understandable in todays day and age .
True. Then he probably should not have said anything to begin with. "I found a ground breaking discovery but you'll never know who I am or if I'm telling the truth" is pretty much what he did.... which is useless and doesn't solve anything.... "but not showing your face is understandable" so is stfu when you have nothing of importance to say or proof to back you.
Because people who know him will come out and tell on him being a BS artist
Dude is in the witness protection program 😂😂
I agree. I would be very reluctant to release my real name or face. I’ve seen too much on the internet.
BS. This day and age people salivate at the mouth for 5 minutes of internet clout. Doing all sorts of dumb stuff.
Thr lighting on that last picture is the one that got me. The angle of the lighting on the background seems more like a portrait but there is one or 2 that looks really good.
Did you get the original pics from his personal phone.....???
Great interview digging without making it uncomfortable 👌
I live in Tassie, have done for nearly 30 years, I know the area he says he was at when he claims this happened from my trail bike riding days, and have adequate knowledge of the native flora and fauna from studies and previous employnent.
Aside from the original photo metadata, I'm 99% convinced.
I believe the Thylacine is still alive, that their species are recovering in isolated regions of Tasmania and that as the next few decades pass, we'll start to see more quick snaps of them as they start to spread to new territories and re-establish their species as the apex predators of our ecosystem. This gives me a glimmer of hope for Tasmanian Wildlife to return to a natural balance 💚
me too. but where are the others i worry about the inbred nature of the animal.
Same many places in the us also have had similar with wolfs where they recovered population elsewhere and then slowly reintroduced back into more normal ranges! There's now wolfs in Oregon much the same way!
Due to the fact that they were known to not reproduce super well and also be illusive I think they found another niche far elsewhere and have just been vibing in fear of humans fleeing at first scent, sight, or sound of them.
Bet you if you stayed in remote wilderness for a few years you might see em, I even once saw a convincing video of a thycaline like animal running upon sight of people! It was gone quickly too...
@@DarthFetidto be fair we did give them the cheetah treatment and part of inbreeding in the wild we have found particularly in Cheetahs made them HIGHLY fearful nervy and illusive...can't imagine how much worse that would be on an already illusive or fearful natured animal....
Tasmanian farmers and tree plantation managers use 1080 to control the wallaby population.
Carcasses are meant to be retrieved after the baiting, but this is mission impossible in most situations.
Tasmanian Devils are dying of cancerous facial tumours, they're the largest consumers of carrion left in the state.
Any tigers possibly left, would have to be in the deepest forest, where no man goes.
Very little of that left here.
Especially near Burnie!
@@DarthFetid The Human species got down to approx.40 individuals and look at us now! Yes inbreeding problems do occur sometimes but its not a big problem even considering the billions of us.
He states “we were heading back to Darwin international airport” That is at the top of Australia, which is 4,254kms from his proposed sighting location. That is 2,643 miles. This guy is Full Of It!!
Yeah, there's also no direct flights to Hobart.
My thoughts the same you can't get a direct flight to hobart from USA only via new Zealand
Darwin could be Devonport
Yes, why would you go from Tasmania. to Darwin to America? When you will go to Melbourne to America? This guy should have looked at a map 🐂💩🐂💩🐂💩
He also says that they were heading to the Darwin airport at 11:30 pm to come back to the states. What time is this flight? Who heads to the airport around midnight?
“I thought it was a dog and I always take multiple photographs of every dog I encounter in the world”
Come on man this is a blatant forgery
Ha ha!
Was thinking the same.
I live not far from Upper Stowport. He described it well. It is a remote country road. Small farms, mainly sheep. Not many people. No street lights.
Google map it. There is literally 1 road (and that's not a busy one) between this area and huge national parks that cover most of the state.
He mentioned the rigid tail, which is correct. Thylacines aren't dogs, they wouldn’t make the same noise.
Thylacines' main enemy (apart from people) was wild dogs. In recent years they've been controlled a lot better. So if a few thylacines survived, they could have bred.
Yes, he messed up the itinerary. A few years ago I flew from Hawaii to Melbourne (no international flights to anywhere in Tasmania) - it took 11 hours. I defy anyone to not feel a bit confused after that.
There is a motel at Hobart airport, people often stay there to get the first flight out around 6am.
Hobart to Stowport would take 4 to 5 hours. Most of the road is reasonable, except for the last 20km or so.
I believe it could be legit.
Either that or he stole the stuffed one from the movie they made a few years ago.
It’s totally fake, go to the Gaming Beaver, he debunks it all.
I've since spoken with a friend who spends a LOT of time in the bush near here. I sent him the video. He believes it's fake.
Revising my former opinion. Well done, well researched even, but not real.
I'd like to add that as an American. A 4 hour drive means nothing to us. They very well could have flown into the further location and drove the distance
@@cameronboggs7292 4 hours is a long drive in Tasmania. It's hilly, a lot of the roads are windy and narrow. But that's a Tasmanian perspective and he's American.
@JaneNewAuthor yea we tend to be masters of dissociating when it comes to drives. Hilly, twisty. Straight shots whatever. I drive 7 hours just to hang out with my brother, I've done 12 hour round trips in one go. 4 hours to get lunch. Alot of us just do that very regularly. Many non american folks find it crazy my work commute daily is over an hour lol
There are for sure things that sound suspicious, but I will say, if I had captured footage of something that would make me famous, being an intensely private person, I would also be in disguise any time I went on camera.
Same. I haven’t finished the video, however I work in an extremely professional environment and I wouldn’t want the entire internet to peg me as the crazy boy who cried thylacine. I also wouldn’t want my clients asking about it. Just a thought.
The internet is a cruel and merciless place and this is the kind of information that could make someone globally famous. I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to stay anonymous during all this.
@@BBcaskin You conveyed what I was trying to say much more succinctly. Thank you.
Same. I probably would’ve kept the whole thing to myself. I don’t want a thylacine captured.
Agreed
I love the theory that they accidentally hit it with their car bc can you fucking imagine
You just encountered one of the most sought-after animals, a member of a species long believed to be extinct, and you've just accidentally obliterated it with a speeding honda civic
But if there is one, there is more.
The black-footed ferret was re-discovered because a farmer’s dog brought a dead one home. If there’s one, there’s more.
Happened in Harry and the Hendersons.
I never thought of that - good point.
@@J-_- I loved that movie as a kid.
As a Australian hearing an American visiting Tasmania is a red flag
I have theory, maybe they accidentally hit it with their car and the kid is scared he’s gonna get in trouble
Yeah definetly could be a possibility.
yes that is a good point
Or possibly afraid of getting hate on the internet for hitting an "extinct" species
I thought the same thing
Yeah why would someone stop in the middle of nowhere to look at a stray dog? this theory makes sense.
Tasmanian here, live 45mins away from that area. It actually looks legit to me. ive seen all sorts of animals on those roads at night, not a Tassy tiger yet, but i'll check the area and keep an eye out.
He said there was blood im pretty sure , possibly if it was hit by a vehicle there may be some remnants there.
It may have been eating roadkill tho...
His story doesn't even add up. First he says it was half way on the road, then he says it was 15 feet away in the grass.
@@toaster3822it could have moved since when they pulled to the other side of the road
@@toaster3822 He said it was halfway into the road before they stopped, genius.
The area isn’t heavily farmed and not fully cleared but I don’t think theirs anyway people would miss it because it’s still property land. I think they might be somewhere along the Lyell highway. I’ve heard reports.
One google search and you can learn that Thylacines were dog like marsupials that howled and barked. They certainly did not meow. I'm calling this BS
Hey Im Australian, as other comments mention it is very strange to confuse Darwin with Tasmania. Darwin is a very small city, very out of the way, its not really mentioned a lot. Darwin is the capital of the Northern Territory which is not even an official state and most of its area is unliveable by humans. It really does sound like he just googled an australian airport. Also weird he briefly said he drove to Chicago airport which is 5 hours from Minneapolis correct? Very Strange to not elaborate on that and then got on a direct flight to Hobart from Chicago which is impossible.
Also if I travel to another state let alone a whole other country, and it was a month ago and stay a few days, I know the town name. I can remember the town name of the Airport I went to in Fiji 10ish years ago.
The way he says numerous times “that was after he meowed at us”, it makes me think it’s real. He says it every time so matter of factly. And to call the noise a meow so casually over and over it just really seems to me he truly is recalling an event that happened
Right? The fact he explains it sounding more similar to a cat then any sort of canid gets me. The imitation he did really did sound similar to the hoarse coughy “bark” that people who heard them in life described them
i totally agree! using the term meow for a dog-like creature is so specific
@@paolo7486 It isn't dog-like but a Marsupial
that is quite the low bar you've set for credibility. these are just AI images.
I think assuming it's a dog, but, hearing that meow/whine stuck Into his mind and it something he will never forget. It's real.
Not surprised that he want to be anonymous considering how much hate he is already getting, when he hasn’t even been disproved
his flight details and driving time are disproven
Because anyone with a brain knows that it is not real. They were thought to be extinct 100 years ago. For one to be found now, there would have been hundreds or thousands alive 100 years ago. Only fools believe.
ITS ALREADY BEEN DISPROVEN. ARE YOU ACTUALLY THAT GULLIBLE?😂😂😂
Could have took video easy but takes crappy pics.
It has been disproved
That isn't a thylacine. It's a joke. I don't think jokes are indigenous to Tasmania!
I cant wrap my mind around how anyone can really be dumb enough to believe this is real for a second 😂
Why is it not real?
They were pretty good models except for the ankle which is what matched it to other models
Plot Twist: Forrest hired this guy to fake it so that he could get funding to go search for the Thylacine himself 🤣
lol That would be genius
Epic plot twist!
He should have hired a better actor.
Kony 2012 type of deviance.
honestly, that would be pretty clever
Him not wanting to be known to a billion people isn't odd...it's smart
him perpetuating such an obvious hoax isn't smart....it's odd
@@mj.l What about this is obviously false? I'm not saying I 100% believe it, but I don't see anything directly proving it false
@@lukevanamerongen5622 because it's Forrest.....that alone should be red flag
I cannot vouch for this guy, but assuming he is not a hoaxer, I do not blame him for wanting to stay anonymous. Your name can be ruined in an instant if you are featured on the media talking about cryptid animals still being alive.
Also why is he pressuring him so bad? I mean no need for that. Most normal people don't want to be on the internet. Also his friend Henry may not want to be involved at all as it would cause a huge issue in someone's life. Its also a big reason why a lot of people don't want to get involved in being witness to crimes. It takes up a ton of your time, harassment from media, harassment from anonymous people, and unwanted questions into your whole life.
"The thylacine was able to open its jaws to an unusual extent: up to 80 degrees. This capability can be seen in part in David Fleay's short black-and-white film sequence of a captive thylacine from 1933."
Actually almost 90 degrees.
Open, not dislocate
I wonder how many times over the last eight days Zac and Henry have chuckled and said to each other 'I can't believe he bought it'
I’m 50/50 to be honest. Some pictures looked spot on and in edited and others looks photo shopped. I pray it’s real and we revive this species from “extinction”
Its so fake its real elong musky
But don't release the revived until we know if the genes are mixed with tasmanian devil.
There's a company that had been planning to bring back the Thylacine and the Whooly Mammoth, very soon
You can be very sure that it's not real. Everybody and their grandmothers wants that the thylacine is still around somewhere. But this guy just wanted to have some fun and see if someone can be bamboozled successfully by his pictures. But he doesn't want to deal with the negative backlash of being called a hoaxer. It's not really that complicated. The fact that his pictures were made two days after he had contacted Forrest is a dead giveaway. The idea that he might've sent screenshots, is silly. He could still have sent Forrest the original pictures. It seems that the guy didn't even carefully plan his hoax. That's why he couldn't tell exactly which flights he took. Forrest should have kept this under wraps for a bit longer.
@sabineb.5616 oh wow, you figured it all out, didn't you? Lol people who think they know everything crack me up. Glad we found the expert on this situation in the comments
THERE ARE NO NON-STOP FLIGHTS FROM ANYWHERE IN THE USA TO HOBART!! As an aussie who flies back and forth regularly, everyone knows you have to fly into Melbourne or Sydney first before flying onto Tasmania.
100%. On top of that the only international flights in or out of Hobart are to New Zealand. Hobart Airport is also not somewhere you could sleep the night given it closes at 10:30pm....
Yeah, I just commented that and that I can't see Darwin being involved anywhere in that.
You're wrong. You may want to look at more than one travel website to try to prove your point. I just found a direct flight, no layovers, from JFK to Hobart on Air New Zealand for 10K$. Also found one on Qantas for 14K$. Both trips will take 22 and 26 hours respectively.
@@ChromaKeyMystress I am honestly not trying to put you down - I just don't want this misinformation to spread!! Firstly, Platinum Qantas member here with priority booking - just checked with customer service and there are NO DIRECT FLIGHTS from JFK to Hobart. I don't know why I even bothered because being Australian and a frequent flyer, the thought of a commercial flight directly from the east coast of USA to Hobart is just about the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. I'm assuming you are not Aussie. Any well travelled Aussie would scoff at the thought, especially if you knew what Hobart's airport is like.
Secondly and the funniest part is - do you honestly think there are commercial airlines offering 26 hour flights 😂😂😂😂😂😂 let alone 22 hour flights 😂😂😂😂 you obviously haven't done many long hauls. 😂😂😂 The longest commercial passenger flight in history is around 18 hours from New York to Singapore. And that flight is business/first class only. The longest non-stop flight that Qantas offers is Melbourne to Dallas, which is around 17 hours!!!!
I love the "check other websites first" comment. I don't need to - I've checked with the concierge for private member's. There are NO FLIGHTS from JFK to HBT direct.
Everyone obsessed over this First if this is the only hole in the story what about the photos. Second. He only mention it wasnt a layover in like england or something not necessarily that he didnt fly into Australia and then connect to Tasmania. The conversation was casual and he wasnt coming off like he was being deceptive
I am a dog handler from Russia and I was interested in this topic. I read the opinion of biologists about the photographs, someone said that an individual of this species cannot be so massive and it made me laugh, to be honest. There is such an effect in genetics called the bottleneck effect. if Tasmanian tigers survived we have no idea what they look like now because there was severe inbreeding between them
>The “bottleneck” effect is a reduction in the gene pool (that is, genetic diversity) of a population due to the passage of a period during which, for various reasons, a critical decrease in its number occurs, which is subsequently restored. A reduction in genetic diversity leads to changes in the relative and absolute frequencies of gene alleles, so this effect is considered among the factors of evolution.
As much as I want this to be real, looking at the image file names, you can see that the first photo is named ‘IMG_6630’ and the last is ‘IMG_6700’. These names are automatic and chronological, meaning there would have had to be 70 photos taken between the first photo and the last.
Zack said the whole interaction only lasted 30 seconds, which means he would have had to take 2-3 photos per second. Assuming he had the flash on and/or night mode activated on the camera, this wouldn’t be possible as it takes a few seconds to capture a single photo at night.
A regular iPhone can take that many pictures if you don’t have the flash on. The flash looks to come from the flashlight his dad was holding
These photos aren’t the originals, they are reshared from Henry, so the sequence could be anything.
Well no because they’re going through a second person. It’s showing the person who screenshotted not the original
@@annataymond9529 they’re fake tho sadly. Watch the gaming beavers video on it, he debunks them pretty well.
There's one dude on that zoom call that's going to make money from this, regardless of the outcome...and its not Zack lol
Poor Zack
12:01 “This would be just soo sad if people are this desperate for attention”
Are people forgetting that this dude wasn’t the one who even had interest and sent it in it was his friend he said he’s not into wildlife like that so why would a normal person who doesn’t care about extinct animals like that care or be overly exited about it. If he was looking for fame or money then that would be more of a red flag than being anonymous
How do we not know this is NOT AI? You can easily create an AI picture of Tasmanian Tiger and then edit it to look all grainy and dark.
Bro spray painted stripes on his dog 😂😂
Nah, I don't think so. I think this is slightly more sophisticated. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this was probably rendered in software and then blurred to hide the details. His story is full of holes for someone who lives in the US. He'd have to be pretty wacked-out of his brain or forgetful to confuse O'Hare or another airport in Chicago with JFK in New York. i mean, if i visited one of the most famous airports in the world like that, I'd remember the name of it. He seemed to have forgotten like it wasn't a big deal. It absolutely is a big deal. Others in this chat have said his details with Tasmania don't add up either. I'm not buying it.
I think the guy is genuine. His level of confidence even if it wasn’t very high doesn’t really change. Someone with made up story sounds really confident until you start picking it apart. This guy didn’t change his story after you started asking questions. My only area of concern is the travel info. I work in the aviation industry and as part of my job I interview people who aren’t professional interviewees regularly. What I can tell you about the flight info is you aren’t going to direct to Tasmania or even southern Australia from Chicago or New York without inflight air refueling. So even if he was mistaken about his airfield names and I don’t see an issue with that because the average young person these days could very well be, he would remember if there were layovers so either he isn’t being completely honest about that or he’s afraid of divulging too much of those details because of privacy reasons. The one mistake I’d say you made when questioning him was on that topic. Keeping questions open ended are going to yield the most honest answers. When you named an airport he latched onto it and said yes that one. In developing witness questionnaires you should avoid “leading” questions that send someone down a path to a particular answer. Let them answer to the best of their memory even if it’s mistaken. You can sort out the details once you have a full answer.
Maybe try to interview him completely off the books and with no recording to establish legitimacy and report back in your own words a summary leaving out any details he doesn’t want you to divulge to protect his privacy which he clearly values for one reason or another. If you go above and beyond to address his concerns and make him comfortable you’ll likely get the best answers that way.
I can’t comment on the pictures because I know nothing about photography. All I can say is taking pictures with a phone during the day on moving targets is hard enough at least with my phone. I can see where zoomed in and at night they wouldn’t be very good.
I know I’m 2 days late and one of over 8000 comments but if you do see this I hope it helps.
I can explain the photography part ... the dates were because of screenshots transferred from his friend, he said. Yet the photos were taken on his phone, so those originals on his own phone would have the original metadata, ie., the actual date the photos were taken ... as opposed to the date the screenshots were transferred to him. Agree on the leading questions too, and I also noticed that gaff.
@@emjaynie54 that all makes sense with the photos. Something depending on the phone (this is true with the iPhone 11) is you get location with the metadata. A lot of people like myself, however, shut off their phones ability to track their location that precisely and as a consequence there is no location with the metadata. He may or may not have known about that ability or may or may not have shut that off. Having him send the originals may give the location they were taken though.
Coincidentally, I took a picture of our cat this morning before the room had much light in it using the long exposure feature of the iPhone. Had nothing to do with this video. But I was immediately reminded of it when the cat was washed out and cartoon looking like this animal. For me that gives legitimacy to the pictures being real. But again I’m far from a photography expert. Just something that stood out in my mind.
He sounds like some people I travel with, rely upon others to get them to the gate and unaware of their surroundings. Especially if dad is calling the shots. Geography eludes them.
Two key things. He said it “galloped off”. Which is characteristic of their mobility. Also the wide wide open mouth which thylacine are known to be capable of opening their mouths wider than any type of canine.
Almost like he had read Wikipedia before the interview, you know, like you would do...
Small correction: Thylacines are not canids. Not even caniforms. They're marsupials.
With that nitpick out of the way, you are right, I caught onto that "gallop" comment immediately. And the fact that he got two photos of the open mouth and the proportions line up...
@@moby2668 He said he didn't know what it was until his friend told him.
@@lukevanamerongen5622 OP said "any type of canine." Not "any other type of canine."
@@BlakeubTheSnakeub Oops, sorry OP! 😅
Any updates Forrest, lots of people on the edge of their seats
The pic with the open jaw doesn’t look like a natural jaw opening, it looks unhinged like a snake, only more alien.
The jaw of a Thylacine opens about 80 degrees. If the pic is fake they at least got that bit accurate. pic here esciencenews.com/files/images/201108315329930.jpg
Hi! Tasmanian here. Stowport is a small rural community. A yank married to a local running a sheep farm would stand out like dogs nuts. The long time locals would now exactly who they are. Asking a few locals might be a good place to start to verify some of this story?
lol i love how he claims they flew back the the US from darwin. dude's never left north america.
@@mj.lnot only that, a cursory Google search shows that Hobart airports only international flights go to New Zealand.
The credibility would be to prove his family property. And prove he had tickets to and from Australia. The Darwin Airport part threw me.
@mj.l you'd think a hoaxer would look up flights to Tasmania but maybe he never expected a question like that
I can't think of any reasonable explanation why a genuine person wouldn't roughly remember their flight path from a trip that happened only a month ago, even if they don't recall the airport names, you'd certainly remember a layover. So yeah... I'd love this to be real but seems very unlikely.
@@mothturtle7897I think this is a hoax and not a good one. But In general I’d be forgiving to not remembering flight paths. I did an international trip earlier this year and hearing this I tried to remember my flights, stop overs etc. bit harder than I thought.
Honestly props to you for putting up with the interview that was so painful at points
I agree 😬😬😬😬😬😬. It was painful to listen to. Haha.
@@staceyroberts3468I thought I was alone
Forrest as someone who is on the spectrum I believe this young man is on the neurodivergent spectrum. His caginess, awkward attempts at humour, large pauses between sentences and anxious nature reminds me of me when I’m nervously trying to recall events. We also have a tendency to unintentionally sensationalise story accounts to try piece them together in a more concise fashion for both us and the person listening.
In regard to remaining anonymous I have two prevailing theories. 1. They struck the animal and are afraid of the potential legal ramifications of striking the last potential thylacine in existence. 2. If he is in on the spectrum, his involvement in such a profound scientific discovery will garner plenty of unwanted attention both positive and negative. He could get publicly bullied by peers in his area for his involvement. The world can be cruel for neurodivergents.
Its fake. He’s just a liar. The photos have been proven to be hoaxes
that zak guy sounds like he's in the principals office about the get detention.
sucks because it’s clear the guy has social anxiety, however he doesn’t want to admit it. it’s pretty common amongst people with social anxiety having trouble with admission, and another thing that pointed out to me was that he asked how long they have to talk for. great video.
Yeah, a lot of people don't want to be famous and don't like attention, I don't agree with him considering that some sort of red flag. The kid just seems shy and kind of introverted.
@@jrgonzalez3845
I honestly don't agree or even like a lot of what Forrest said in this video. I personally don't think him lying or it being the truth is more likely than the other. I think it could be either. However, some of the comments Forrest made about the guy made me feel bad for him. Like, whether he's lying or not, he's still taking the time to talk to you. Most fakes use their fifteen minutes of fame to make money and chase clout. The fact that he's already painting him as a liar but then skeptical that he doesn't want to go public is weird to me. This whole video is just weird, as far as how he treats Zack.
Bro if he sonr qant ti talk hw doesnt have to aayinf he ia aoculy akward like u knoq him pwrosnaly is talking shit
@@ElysetheEevee As someone with bad social anxiety I agree with the sentiment that this guy may very well suffer from it. The whole thing could be a hoax that he's perpetrating himself or that he got roped into by a friend, but either way, I can definitely see social-anxiety-related explanations for a lot of the things that feel off. Like if I were in this guy's shoes, I would not want to be on camera either. I also thought it was very rude of Forrest to refer to the guy as weird and call him a dorky kid. Like if it comes out that he hoaxed the whole thing, fine, call him whatever you want. But if he didn't, he was nice enough to come on your show despite clearly having anxiety and give you tons of youtube views which equate to more ad revenue, so feels wrong to cut him down like that when he hasn't proven to be a hoaxer or liar yet. Even without having social anxiety, having a big youtuber who's a stranger to you call you weird and dorky in front of a massive online audience would feel absolutely awful.
@@wingedhussar1453 when you wake up tomorrow probably dont drink that much again
I live in Australia (mainland), have visited Tasmania, have friends living there and spoken to people who grew up there and can say that not only do most Tasmanians not question the Thylacines continued existence, particularly in remote areas, there are Tasmanians who say they have seen them when camping or fishing in remote areas of north west area. Tasmanians do not want the attention on the Thylacine's ongoing existence and the subsequent risk that Thylacine 'hunters' will negatively impact their habitat and bring unwanted tourism to conservation areas.
Not quite. Most of the pressure comes from the logging industry. If they find an animal, there will be no more felling/development in the area, if not the island due to conservation. A lot of people see the discovery of a Thylacine as a risk to them and their families thriving financially. My uncle lives there and is in the mining industry, also check out a film called The Hunter which is about exactly what I'm describing.
How do you explain him driving to Darwin Airport?
I am a born and bred tasmanian and i can tell you my friend you are correct with your comments. I live in suburbia now but when i was young i lived, camped and bushwalked all over tassie and i can tell you with certainty i believe there are still tassie tigers out there. A lot of us do believe because of the terrain here but if i saw one i would never tell anyone...if they were to be found it would be a shit fight for sure. I can understand why he doesn't want to show his face because social media is brutal. I really believe they are out there but i hope we never truely find. ❤
I can understand, and if so, hope the animal can thrive enough that its existence is no longer questioned.
Just like there's no mtn lions in new england.
"im not a mammal guy" well i got good news bro
Wow, I've been interested in the sightings of the Tasmanian Tiger for so long. Truly amazing 👏 thanks for sharing.
Things that do make sense:
-random foreigner stumbling upon it
-‘meowed’ at me
-including the in-between blurry pics
-he & his dad wondering if they should take it to the vet
-guy wanting to remain anonymous
-the way guy talks on interview. He’s a random guy unfamiliar with podcasts, zoom talks etc
-not knowing exact flight paths, hours driven etc is normal
-he not volunteering any ‘fantastic’ info or unrealistic details
BUT
Photos instead of video? Thats what makes no sense whatsoever. Why not record video? Who the hell shoots pics nowadays?
I want it to be true.
I take photos over videos because I love photography not videography 🤷♀️
But I think he’s full of it
None of the airport and travel info makes sense, this guy has clearly never been to Tasmania.
@@StephenMcCallumAuI think he might be posing as the one that found it for a friend who ACTUALLY found it, but didn’t want to be publicized. Its why he couldn’t place perfect details.
I literally never remember to record a video. The photo button is just there and I just press that whenever something interesting happens
He probably panicked. The first setting your phone is on is photo mode, so you have to look down for a precious second to switch it over to video, then hit record. Even that part makes sense.
The Thylacine has been my heart animal since I was 8 years old in 1970. My first school report was on the Thylacine. My teacher had vacationed in Australia and she told us about the Hobart Zoo. Back then the research was with encyclopedias, no internet so looking up the zoo led from one thing led to another and I discovered that amazing animal. The story of the last one is a heartbreaker. I have been watching and waiting for legitimate sightings all of my life. Recently when I heard that science was trying to bring it back from extinction, I was so excited. I haven't seen any recent developments lately though. I hope and pray that someday soon the thylacine will be found or brought back to walk the earth again. I am old and would die happy if I could just see it alive before I go.
there is a good chance that at least Thylacine can be brought back. Many genetic organizations have Thylacine DNA that they want to use to clone the Thylacine. So, there is a good chance you will at least see a video of one in your life time.
Thank You for your summary. Reading your thoughts resignated in me. I still have the weekly reader article of the tasmanian devel from back in the 70's. I was the same kid that you speak of.
They are still around. There's random evidence online besides this.
@@josephblanchard6248 I won't be sure until I see it on international news, grainy YT videos are not evidence. 60 minutes Australia I would trust.
Great question about flight route, New York to Hobart would have to be the world's longest direct flight lol
Imagine if he brought a Tasmanian Tiger to the littoral vet, that would be so funny😂
Im 48yrs old now but 35yrs ago when I was 13yo out spotlighting with my father I spotted the wierdest looking kangaroo standing up behind a big fallen trunk. Rules of sbooting are hou never shoot at anything you cant psotively identify so I was hesitant to pull the trigger. The old man is losing his crap holding the spotlight screaming at me to shoot but I couldn't. This thing then slinks over the trunk and i said to myself 'thats no roo!' as I watched it trot away on all fours. Just before it reach the tree line another one came and joined it with 2 smaller ones in tow. Never made any claims about what I saw other than 'it was a slinky thing' to my fathers and my uncles ridicule. Years later (maybe 34yrs old) watching Thylacine videos on youtube I saw the one where the last Thylacine does the same slinky back arching thing I saw and I immediately had flashbacks and knew what I saw that night. This was in South Australia's Riverland. I know they are out there and will eventually be found. Lets just hope we dont destroy them for the second time
Cool made up story
@@Andrew-fy9wu if you say so bro, must really suck having such an empty life like yours
I full heartedly agree... Far to many reports to say they didn't go extinct...
@@meesoedontask5562I mean… to be fair, there are also lots of reports about Bigfoot and the lochness monster and chupacabra and I doubt they’re ALL real
Hey, local Tasmanian here, I am gonna analyse what he says.
Okay, sorry its not adding up, there are no direct flights into Hobart from the u.s. Hobart is not an international airport anymore, and the only international flights it used to do where to NZ. He wouldve needed a connecting flight from melbourne or sydney. There are NO direct fligts from the u.s. to Tasmania, that is not something that exists.
Upper stowport is in the burnie area in tasmania that is around 3 to 4 hours from hobart, so the 2 hour drive is unlikely
However - The Road he is talking of, is very close to the Emu River reserve, which, would be a good habitat for the thylacine, so it defiantly isn't far fetched.
Upper stowport is definantly not an unrealistic location tho. It's remote enough but. Also very very strange for it to be sitting on the side of the road. What time of night woukd be useful to know, and also, they are predators, not scavengers. Yes they may have been pushed to scavenge rather then hunt but. I don't beleive a "healthy" thylacine would just sit on the side of the road. Let alone on the road.
I continue to research the validity, io have been looking through google maps of the area, and so far i have only found 1 place that could be the place he is talking about, with enough trees and grass there the photos to be realistic, but if i am honest... he would not need to zoom that much.
Different possible Coordinates are:
-41.137017162811674, 145.91555962854306
-41.07774435106956, 145.93634742777004 (This is a stretch as it is very close to Wivenhoe and Burnie, a bit to loud for an illusive animal)
- I will be updating these posts if i find further info.
He did say Darwin airport, so it would be pretty easy to check connecting flights etc.
@robday2859 Darwin airport has no direct flights to Tasmania, you would need to stop in Sydney, or Melbourne, and then get a flight to Hobart. The fact he said he flew into Darwin is strange enough as it is like the furthest location in Australia besides Perth from Tasmania. And he said that they had NO CONNECTING FLIGHTS AT ALL. Which doesn't work.
He later said that he actually flew direct into Hobart from the u.s., which again isn't possible
@@joshuajamieson5891 The pictures were most likely AI generated it’s possible, though that an artist painted them but that is very unlikely. And the fact that his story doesn’t add up as well is another big red flag. Safe to say that this is probably a false case. Hopefully real evidence that the Tasmanian tigers still exist does come up because I would hate for the animal to really be extinct… Also just wanted to say that it would most likely be digital art not traditional if they weren’t AI generated, which you can is the most likely to be…
I have just watched your video. A big red flag to me is the way Zack described his travel arrangements. I live in Melbourne, so I have a pretty good knowledge of Australian geography. First he said he flew into Darwin, which is thousands of miles from Tasmania, the other end of Australia. He only said Hobart after you prompted him. Then he said he flew direct from New York. There are no scheduled commercial flights from New York to Hobart. It is simply too far. To my knowledge there are no scheduled international flights into Hobart from anywhere except perhaps from New Zealand. Tasmanians travelling internationally would take a domestic flight to Melbourne, then an international flight from here. The only realistic way to fly from New York to Tasmania would involve a stopover on the west coast of USA, normally Los Angeles, then the international flight would terminate in either Sydney or Melbourne and you would have to catch a domestic flight to Tasmania. If you wanted to get to Stowport, which is in the north of Tasmania, you would most likely take a domestic flight from Melbourne to Burnie on the north coast, not Hobart in the south. It is more than a couple of hours travel by road from Hobart to the north coast, more like about 4 hours.
Well appreciated brother, BUT I have a suggestion. Pull up every last recorded video or archival photo of the thylacine and compare them with those photos you just got, ideally frame by frame where the animal is facing in the direction as it appears in those photos shared by Zack to see if there is a match. If those photos are fake, there should be a match. There are so many folks searching for a thylacine that Zack would have been the first to hit the media with those photos. I kinda feel, those photos are extracted and re-rendered from the last surviving videos of the thylacine filmed while kept in some chain-link enclosure, if I remember.
The dude really needs to get his flight story sorted out. There are references online for "direct" flights to Hobart from the USA. But when you drill down and actually attempt to make a booking, you get hit with at least 2 stops. As someone who has lived in Tasmania while working for clients in the USA, it would be have been incredible to get to the USA directly. Even if he flew into Darwin and then Darwin to Hobart, Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin ALL stop in Melbourne first. Get his flight itinerary.
it's fake
HE won't even share other photos he's been there
ITS ovviosly a fraud
IF this animal was fher people would have seen it by now animals don't hide like this thrt go out and seek food n water not trying to be negative what animals hide we see all animals around even a yellow penguin
I have flown there quite a few times. They don't all stop at Mel first, I've been redirected many times even. Everyone who flies there goes through that and we don't end up in Melbourne. They send us to Perth of all places most of the time and it really wrecks any plans you may have at the start.
One thing is true though. It would be incredible to find a direct flight. 0 stop direct flights stopped quite a while ago.
Yep, I second this.
The kid is socially awkward, and lacks articulation which is totally normal. Not everyone is an outgoing perfectly media trained person. And about the flights and stuff, nobody remembers airport names, I’d be guessing since those names don’t have any special phonetics.
Unless they flew private, quite possible from LA
He's obviously a bit of an atypical personality, probably on the spectrum, but that doesn't mean his story is any less real or the photos are fake just because he communicates a bit weirdly compared to most typical people. Definitely the most convincing photos of all. The way Forrest keeps interrupting tends to make people like this very uncomfortable as well. I actually find him very believable and natural, quite unaware of what a miracle he's involved in
How did you end up assuming he's in the spectrum?
@@AndyAndy-rf9rc I do to. Its because of the way he interacts and communicates. I have family members on the spectrum and they are similar in many ways.
Dont know if its real or not. Guy should send the camera roll so we can see that the photos were taken at the same time etc.
There are some parts that makes me suspect he might be lying.
Nr 1 - He said he flew to Darwin Airport. Thats a lie, because Darwin airport is in Australia, not in Tasmania.
Nr 2 - There are no planes that goes from anywhere in the USA directly to Darwin Airport.
Nr 3 - He said that the animal was laying on half on the road and half in the grass - but the pictures show it laying in the grass.
But the photos are so good. I compared old photos of the Tasmanian tiger with his - and it looks just like the ones in old photos
@@vipr1142camera is his iPhone 11 and it’s digital. 😊
15 minutes in and I'm still waiting for anything even remotely approaching credibility. Wtf is this?
its a hoax look up Archesuchus tasmanian tiger
Imagine the amount of poachers be coming down to the general location of said extinct “tiger dog”.
It looks legit. The kid not knowing airports sounds like someone who doesn't travel much. He doesn't want to face the harassment and ridicule of the trolls.
Or doesn't pay much attention, and potentially didn't want to go on the holiday so he's not engaged in the experience - in one ear and out the other. It's not that unusual for such a case, and if you add in that he's a teen, potentially has some sort of anxiety issue, and his dad probably took care of the holiday plans... again, not so unusual.
its fake
He’s lying through his teeth. Nothing about this story makes any sense.
For instance, you cannot fly directly from JFK airport to any location in Australia, let alone sleepy little Tasmania.
Are you telling me he honestly can’t remember how he flew to Australia? Completely ridiculous.
His story is obviously completely fabricated.
He didn't seem to know that no US airline has a direct flight to Tasmania. The chances of thylacines still being alive after 90 years with no road kills or remains of any sort being found are vanishingly small, a million to one against.
@@ErizeddQantas Airlines have direct flights...
I think it's a guy who randomly took some pics of an animal he had no idea would garner so much attention. From his interview he seems to be legit just someone not wanting a bunch of attention from pictures he innocently took as a part of a trip he took with his dad.
He's only a teen so it makes sense he's shy like I was way back when
Here are the inconsistencies that I noticed.
So, first.. it's normal for people to have lapses in memory. It's more credible than to have a perfect story. It's also really normal for someone to not want to have their face on the internet. I also personally can't remember airport names for the life of me, so that's whatever. That being said, here's what I noticed:
-He mentioned there was some blood, but I can't see any sign of that on any of the photos. Could be because of the quality.
-He said he thought it was a dog until it opened its mouth, and that's what prompted him to take photos. Yet he has photos of it laying down and he stated that was before it opened its mouth.
-He said it was half on the road. In the photos it looked fully out of the road. Maybe it moved.
-Why would the animal stay long enough for them to get so many pictures? (I've seen people say perhaps they hit it, that is possible, and could answer previous questions as well)
-He said there was a fence and then trees behind them, but the picture with the shadow looks like there's something solid. (Could be a solid wall that he called a fence?)
-He said it went off into the trees. But also said there was a fence in front of the trees. and that it walked along the fence, and that's why he could get more pictures of it. If the creature could get through the fence, why not go straight across instead of walking along? Maybe there was a hole or the fence ended.
-And obviously, as everyone is talking about, he would have remembered if there was a layover. He said there wasn't, and there doesn't appear to be a direct flight from Chicago or NY to Hobart. I don't see a way around this one.
I hope he sent you the photos straight from his phone so you could verify the time stamps.