I’m looking forward to seeing these in person. I’m hoping they aren’t too small. I like a decent blade length down by the ball. It inspires confidence. I’ve never got the obsession with small looking irons and thin top lines for amateur golfers, especially for mid to high handicappers.
I don’t know if it’s possible with fitting clubs but, I’d be interested in seeing a video on how you would gap the set properly. Maybe compare the 8 iron to the 7 iron to see how much of an increase you get by switching from carbon to Chromoly. I’ve heard with the Pro 243 there is an issue in between those 2 irons so I feel it would be beneficial to see if that’s the case with the forged and how you could go about fixing through loft adjustments. Love the videos! Thanks
I was thinking the same thing. I've had the 245 in the bag for a year which to me is the absolute best hollow body players distance iron Mizuno has made. The JPX 925 Forged would be its cavity backed brother. I suspect some of this tech shows up in the 265 later this year. The tri-sole definitely shows up in the 263/265
It's low, but that's partly due to my swing. I don't hit down on the ball that much and I have an inside-to-out path, both recipes for lower spin rates. - Drew
Looks like a great club for someone with a swing speed closer to 80mph…not sure testing it with someone who swings a 7 iron 95mph is very useful…I could be wrong…
I disagree, there are more notable differences at the extremes, it’s likely that the differences in clubs are more pronounced with a higher swing speed and less important at slower speeds. It’s very likely the exponential energy increase with a higher acceleration will tell you which clubs have that versatility and which just have nothing left to give up top.
@ That doesn’t make sense to me…how it performs at 95mph is useless to someone swinging at 80mph…that would be like showing someone how their car performs at 85mph when they will never driver of 55mph…while I can see that swinging at a higher speed may exaggerate performance, it won’t give you an apples to apples comparison…I see so many reviewers who are extremely good ball strikers that swing fast testing GI clubs. But many GI clubs, for example, place weights in spots where poor ball strikers will hit it more often, like the toe or heal, or even higher on the face…but the reviewer just stripes them, hitting the same spot about 3 grooves up in the middle and doesn’t give any sense of how the GI part of the club can help someone…just my two cents from watching many reviews and then going out and testing those same clubs and not getting anywhere near the same results…
If you hit off the toe, you don’t want spin because you’ll lose even more distance. You see it on wedges because better players use the toe to kill distance on finesse shots (or open the face for flop shots) but retain spin to prevent too much release.
7 iron going 200 yards. You're going to need 6 wedges to get gapping right. 8i - 185? 9i - 170? pw - 155? gw - 140, sw - 125, lw - 110. I guess maybe 4. but I don't really think these numbers are realistic. I know I don't 110 out of my current 60 degree.
I’m looking forward to seeing these in person. I’m hoping they aren’t too small. I like a decent blade length down by the ball. It inspires confidence. I’ve never got the obsession with small looking irons and thin top lines for amateur golfers, especially for mid to high handicappers.
I demoed them Saturday . I will stay with my gen 7 PXG irons . Butter soft
I don’t know if it’s possible with fitting clubs but, I’d be interested in seeing a video on how you would gap the set properly. Maybe compare the 8 iron to the 7 iron to see how much of an increase you get by switching from carbon to Chromoly. I’ve heard with the Pro 243 there is an issue in between those 2 irons so I feel it would be beneficial to see if that’s the case with the forged and how you could go about fixing through loft adjustments.
Love the videos!
Thanks
Good idea for a video! We'll add it to the list
2nd swing golf..... The Forged vs pro 245, same feeling, more power?
Would love to hear
+1
Excellent idea for a video! Coming soon...
Love my 225s, but the Black one looks so good!
LOL. I was thinking is reminiscent of the JPX 800 Pro I currently play. Especially in the sole. Glad it's not just me 😀
Great minds think alike!
Its gonna be in my bag.
These seem like a noticeable difference from the 921 forged. I'll be giving these puppies a swing soon!
Love it!
Are the Mizuno lies still lower than others or have they changed this?
Look GREAT
The Forged vs pro 245, same feeling, more power?
I was thinking the same thing. I've had the 245 in the bag for a year which to me is the absolute best hollow body players distance iron Mizuno has made. The JPX 925 Forged would be its cavity backed brother. I suspect some of this tech shows up in the 265 later this year. The tri-sole definitely shows up in the 263/265
Sold. So sweet. When are these available to order?
January 23 is when fittings are available and orders can be placed!
Are these more comparable to the Srixon zx7 or zx5?
Zx5
@Snoopsnap24 thanks, I thought that might be the case.
Zx7
@@xBlade173 ZX7 equivalent in Mizuno would be the 243.
I have the JPX923 Forged, these seem to have even less backspin. 4500 is way too low for a 7 iron imo
It's low, but that's partly due to my swing. I don't hit down on the ball that much and I have an inside-to-out path, both recipes for lower spin rates. - Drew
I was on trackman yesterday. 7 irons. X100 shaft. ~92 mph club ~ -4 aoa.
T150 6200 rpm
I230 5900 rpm
925 Forged 5500 rpm
Looks like a great club for someone with a swing speed closer to 80mph…not sure testing it with someone who swings a 7 iron 95mph is very useful…I could be wrong…
I disagree, there are more notable differences at the extremes, it’s likely that the differences in clubs are more pronounced with a higher swing speed and less important at slower speeds. It’s very likely the exponential energy increase with a higher acceleration will tell you which clubs have that versatility and which just have nothing left to give up top.
@ That doesn’t make sense to me…how it performs at 95mph is useless to someone swinging at 80mph…that would be like showing someone how their car performs at 85mph when they will never driver of 55mph…while I can see that swinging at a higher speed may exaggerate performance, it won’t give you an apples to apples comparison…I see so many reviewers who are extremely good ball strikers that swing fast testing GI clubs. But many GI clubs, for example, place weights in spots where poor ball strikers will hit it more often, like the toe or heal, or even higher on the face…but the reviewer just stripes them, hitting the same spot about 3 grooves up in the middle and doesn’t give any sense of how the GI part of the club can help someone…just my two cents from watching many reviews and then going out and testing those same clubs and not getting anywhere near the same results…
Why aren't irons made with full face grooves ? Especialy on a game improvement forgiving irons
If you hit off the toe, you don’t want spin because you’ll lose even more distance. You see it on wedges because better players use the toe to kill distance on finesse shots (or open the face for flop shots) but retain spin to prevent too much release.
7 iron going 200 yards. You're going to need 6 wedges to get gapping right. 8i - 185? 9i - 170? pw - 155? gw - 140, sw - 125, lw - 110. I guess maybe 4. but I don't really think these numbers are realistic. I know I don't 110 out of my current 60 degree.
Sure but this is prob not for the guy swinging his 7 iron 95 mph. The guy said it’s acting more like a 6 iron
It’s not that big of a deal. I got
200-220+ 6i
200-185 7i
170-185 8i
160-170 9i
160-130 pw
120-100 aw
95-60 54w
60-0 60w
Give me a copper version and I’m in