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Good elk is like super tender, gamey steak. If you put that shit in a quesadilla you lose your chef title, those are just the rules (also considering he had Zero elk on "his farm" and a bunch of bison, pretty sure that was actually just bison, which tends to be tougher and thinner)
Chef says it was the awful food that made him not want to continue the series, but it’s got to be having to deal with people like this. He’s not a psychologist he’s a chef lol, and the major thing these people need is counselling. Can’t make good food decisions if you are not self aware.
@@Foxiesz live in a rural town around an hour outside of Seattle. We have exactly what you described. The restaurant might work in a city but instead it’s $50 more per plate for $5 more in quality.
@@Foxiesz Right?! Like, if I think that there is no market for Mexican food in an area, I'm not going to open a restaurant in that area. Simple as that, really.
Yeah he's acting like his restaurant is serving ground with miracle noodles and beef testicles or something wich very few people would actually like, but like well made.
"I know more about fuckin' elk... and buffalo and beef than he'll ever know." I'm inclined to believe this man. Now he just needs to understand that Gordon knows more about cooking those animals and that it has nothing to do with expertise in zoophilic fornication.
Ha! Ha! Best laugh of the day. I think Ramsey's experience is more culinary than fornicatory as regards animals. As far as I know no bestiality or practical zoophilia occurred during the making of these programmes!🤣😂
@@noorrougelewis6704 I dunno, the British version of the show has a lot of episodes where the owner earnestly does want to fix things and the problems are more around bad time management, poor cooking skills, stubborn staff, cleanliness etc. instead of just a battle of pure ego, and it's a great watch. Different show than the American version for sure but both are engaging
I heard he was tring to sue Gordon Ramsey after the show. And say stuff like the production team stole some stuff when they redecoreted the restaurant. And he fired everyone who criticed him. He tells stories about how unfair Gordon Ramsey was to him till this day..... The level is beyond words.
@@andrewp3358 yeah its true but for example if someone like him is your boss. You cant just let it go. When someone like him have autority over you, you need to deal with it somehow or you lose your job. Of course in the long run probably losing your job is better than losing your sanety.
I also noticed that! And that makes me really sad about Joe, because he clearly didn't get the validation he needed in his life in a healthy way, so he does these things (talking to customers, seeking compliments about his elk) just to feel good and validated... but in an unhealthy way. It's really sad to see it put out like this, narcissists are like children in a lot of ways :(
It fits, though, when you think about it. In his combination of arrogance and ignorance, he assumes that, if the Four Seasons is good, then surely the Five Seasons must be even better.
I lived across a narrow street to a large, unruly Pub in Wales. The new owners spent an immense amount of money remodelling the pub into a beautiful real ale bar. Just before the reopening, my partner and I met the owner outside our home, and asked him about his plans. He explained how he believed the new look would attract a more sophisticated clientele than it had in the past. When we managed to stop laughing, we pointed out that in this little town, there wasn't such a thing as a "sophisticated clientele" here.
@@Woodenfan The real ales go down well, but the alleyway behind the smoking garden is still an entertainment arena of after dark drunken pointless arguments and an unroofed public loo. Can often hear the unmistakeable mating call of the wild Welsh rugby fan echoing through the night as the pub closes, "Oiy oiy, oioioiiyyyyyyy, oioioiiyyyyyyy,!!!
@@mountainhun Still to this day, I cannot believe that happened lol. I know a lot of worse shit happened before and after that, but Four Seasons Total Landscaping just legit feels like a fever dream sometimes i work in administration for university departments. If I botched something like that, i would get fired in a heartbeat
I dig these Kitchen Nightmares psychology breakdowns. Kitchen Nightmares in general is just a fascinating show; How Gordon Ramsay's efforts to save burgeoning businesses often ended up putting him in contact with some truly _bizarre_ and wild people, and it makes sense that not only is the show being uploaded on TH-cam so people can see these bizarre chefs and business owners, but also so we can examine the psychology of the people on display. I'll always remember the Cognitive Dissonance guy you covered last time.
I love these too! She's does such a great job of breaking down the psychology of the people. They always make me stop and think, am I displaying these behaviors in my life in any way? I'm always striving for self awareness and Kiana's breakdowns always give me a moment to pause and self-reflect.
Honestly, Michael Scott is a saint compared to Joe Nagy for one simple reason: intent. Michael can be obtuse and make bad decisions, but, most of the time, he means well. Joe, by contrast, doesn’t have any good intent behind any of his actions. He’s arrogant, spiteful, bitter and defensive, thinking solely about massaging his own ego and losing his cool when his perception of himself is challenged. He never even TRIES to do anything in good faith.
I went up to Idaho for work one summer. The guys invited me to 4th of July bbq. They had elk that they hunted themselves. Elk is definitely difficult to butcher right, but can be tender and yummy if done right. What I saw on that plate didn't look like what I had at that bbq. It even looked rubbery.
I've eaten elk and moose that my uncle procured. It was some of the most tender and flavorful meat I've ever had. You just gotta know how to fix it right, Joe.😆
Thank you for another quality video! You put so much time and effort into your videos and it really shows. If you ever toy with the idea of shorter videos I'm sure we would all love those too! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Kiana! 🎅🌲🎁🥳🎉
@@24framedavinci39 hahaha yes I think tiktok is one of the worst things in existence. What I meant was shorter videos, like 5 minutes or less, if she had something she wanted say but it didn't fit anywhere into one of her longer topics. Even if she took clips from some of her videos and made them into shorts, it might help capture a bigger audience.
Hey, so I'm kind of relapsing in my ed rn and your channel helps me so much overall, no matter what you're talking about. I love this episode I was hoping you would talk about this episode. Thank you
Joe : "You don't hand me raw food in my dining room." Every single person on the earth : Well, Joe. We *_W O N D E R_* who made the raw food in the first place.
Me trying to figure out where would be the appropriate place to hand him the raw food. Seems like a pretty normal dining room activity to me but okurrr.
My family calls me arrogant alot so I was prepared to take a little emotional damage while watching this but the point you made about him not caring if he was a jerk he just wants to look good to people and sees others as below him that actually kinda made me realize I'm not like that. I'm actually a huge people pleaser and will say I'm sorry if I'm acting like a bitch or just think I am. I do get really defensive when people call me out or say shit to me tho. I'm trying to work on it.
“I’m trying to work on it.” That’s all people want, really. That you put in some action to correcting yourself, true effort not just going thru the motions.
Whenever a boss I’ve had showed they were willing and able to get down into the dirty with us when dinner service was crazy, it always earned my respect. The fact Joe was not even willing to take two CARROTS from Gordon shows precisely how little respect he has for his servers and chefs.
I'd honestly kill for more Mukbang/My 600 Pound Life breakdowns of true life psychological examples. Right now I am focusing on self love and self betterment to lose weight again and I can't believe how I never took care of my mind the first time I lost the weight.
That level of delusion is really incredible, and quite tragic. But another fab video! Thank you Kiana for your wonderfully insightful and intelligent videos. I love watching them. Good luck for the new year!
Narcissism. I was married to a man who behaved atrociously (arrogantly) behind closed doors but portrayed himself as a completely different person in public. If that ever broke down, a massive mantrum ensued.
Oh, I love this. I haven't even watched yet and I know I'm gonna love it cause nothing makes me happier than arrogant people getting that massive slice of humble pie
What’s interesting about how you describe arrogance is that it also fits the owners of the 2 previous KN episodes you covered. Sammy and Amy, and Jenn and Alan. In fact, this is a common thing throughout KN, mainly with cases like Abby from Downcity, and David from Black Pearl.
Wow... honestly it is amazing he can't grasp most would rather eat at a pleasant dive then a "high end" place where the animosity towards both you the customer and the staff is the only thing harder to stomach then the food.
As someone raises on hinted elk and deer - if it was tender you wouldnt struggle to chew it like it's a massive wad of rubber. We always grind elk or cook it in stew to make it super yummy
I read someplace that Joe is now selling high end burgers and similar stuff from a mobile setup at festivals and such. Also apparently his stuff is good and he's a lot more....down to earth.
Guy is forcing customers to be his captive audiance. This delusional level of narcissism is actually scary. I'm not even sure if the best therapist in earth could help this small sad man.
Thanks Kiana! It's nice that you're moving into other topics besides weight loss, now that I reached maintenance myself I'm also looking into my other areas for self improvement. Everyone can change, I choose to believe it
This Joe dude reminds me of my brother-in-law who abandoned his children, gets drunk and cheats on his women, does nothing at work but always posts on social media about how much of a great father, husband and a colleague he is :)) people like that will deny their fault and blame everybody but themselves even if the whole world turns away from them. They cannot be helped.
I think Joe has a food truck nowadays, people who went there say he's still kinda angry and blames everything on Gordon till these days. Talk about holding a grudge right?
This series is AMAZING and it is what introduced me and got me hooked to KN! Please do a video on Sebastian's (S01E06). That guy was shamelessly unhinged.
"Those same (undergrown) carrots go to The White House. Those same carrots go to The Five Seasons" does this man think the resort is called The Five Seasons?? It is called The Four Seasons because there are only four seasons.. Does he also think there are five seasons?
Really love these reality tv show breakdowns. Opens my eyes on things I need to either improve or observe these behaviors from other people. Also Joe talking to his customers about his problems is freaking ridiculous. The customers paid to enjoy a meal not have a therapy session with you 🤦♂️
If you’re looking to do more from kitchen nightmares, how about that Italian guy Sammy, who microwaved the lasagna, great quotes such as "That soup was two days old but that doesn’t mean it’s garbage. Who is he, the fuckin health department?" and saying to a customer "You seem like a microwave expert, you know so much about ‘em"
The greatest episode is the new Orleans episode that was removed from the series with the two brothers mo and someone else I forget his name but it's great , the staff call him "hurricane moe " it's probably the funniest episode of kitchen nightmares. Also "la galleria " is another personal favorite of mine . The "smoker" sister is hilarious 😂 😃
How are you not a trained therapist? You could easily become on with your level of knowledge on behavioral science (I think that's what the topic is called)
6:17 Joe: I know more about fuckin elk.....and beef and buffalo than he'll ever know The way he pauses to think about what he just said and continues is a bit alarming...
People theorized that Joe might be an undiagnosed Narcissist for years with how arrogant and disrespectful he is. I think he's one of those people who blames Gordon for the failure/shut down of their restaurant
I love your breakdown of arrogance. A lot of time people use the word narcissistic when they mean arrogance and with others complaining that we need to not throw important and heavy words like "narcissist" around so lightly as it does also tie to a personality disorder diagnosis, it's good to know that arrogance is a perfect replacement as it sums up everything people are often using "narcissistic" for.
Joe's arrogance is a clear example of how confidence (Key word is 'con') can delude us in absence of self-efficacy. The biggest factor is Joe is not a classically trained chef. A student with a culinary certificate from a vocational school has more gastronomic acumen than Joe. He never mastered basic culinary techniques (stock making, meat fabrication, food preservation, etc), worked or eaten at a fine dining restaurant, and is just another clown with money. Without a basic culinary foundation to build on, Joe can't change his menu in any way that's efficient or cost effective. All he can do is cut costs. He thinks he can bypass the training and time it takes to be a good chef. I went to an accredited culinary school and have met students who rode Amtrak 3 hours every other day to attend classes. They have the drive and passion to put out good food. They deserve the opportunity to own and run a restaurant, not to have gatekeepers like Joe hog the real-estate, equipment, and decent staff members just because he thinks he's entitled to success. When play time is over and it's not fun for them anymore, they'll sell their business without a second thought, and the fake passion dies out.
And Joe had the audacity to sue Gordon after this, claiming the camera crew messed up the ceiling before they left and meat went missing. Gordon and all the staff should have walked out and never came back. Joe is a horrible, nasty narcissistic person. I. can't. stand. him.
I will say it does seem pretty silly to fixate on the carrots. I think they are a cute garnish. Why fixate on the small problems when there are massive issues to address?
I love those breakdowns! You should really try Lido, it is a rare success story on Kitchen Nightmare and I think it would provide a good counterpoint to the previous ones.
Seeing a middle-aged man behaving in that way makes me sad, because at this stage of life, it's really hard to change one's mentality. So cruel, so vulgar his behavior, so weak, so pathetic his soul.
Move over Schroedinger's cat, Joe's elk is the new hot thing nowadays Also gotta love the term "old school Europeans" makes it sound like we're some species of forest elves hahaha
"WE responded by adding more onions to the soup" the other chef had no idea he did that. When it's negative, it's suddenly WE. When he can gain something, it's I, ME
There's two kinds of people in this world. Those who will hand literally anyone carrots, regardless of their state of rawness, or location... And those who are irrationally offended at being handed things.
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terrible once they lose the ability to comprehend reality and live inside their alternate universes
Me me I myself and I
yuck! how they manage to open a business with such an attitude?
i would try some elk... but not his "elk"
Good elk is like super tender, gamey steak. If you put that shit in a quesadilla you lose your chef title, those are just the rules (also considering he had Zero elk on "his farm" and a bunch of bison, pretty sure that was actually just bison, which tends to be tougher and thinner)
Chef says it was the awful food that made him not want to continue the series, but it’s got to be having to deal with people like this. He’s not a psychologist he’s a chef lol, and the major thing these people need is counselling. Can’t make good food decisions if you are not self aware.
but is Kiana's cake sugar free?
cuz im addicted🥮🤪
Ramsays has said the main reason is health. He had over a dozen stomach ulcers filming this show 🤢
@@Oinkly yeah, makes sense. From the stress of these people AND the s--t food.
counseling*
@@Moon_Presence Thank you, I normally spell in the correct way but sometimes life doesn’t go the way I want lol. 🤷♀️
the audacity of joe to blame the locals' lack of sophistication 😭 guy is on another level of delusional 💀
Even if that somehow were the case, dont put a restaurant like that there then?? Thats still his fault even in his fantasy
@@Foxiesz live in a rural town around an hour outside of Seattle. We have exactly what you described. The restaurant might work in a city but instead it’s $50 more per plate for $5 more in quality.
@@Foxieszand he got mad at me for shoveling snow off of his sidewalk so fuck em😂
@@Foxiesz Right?! Like, if I think that there is no market for Mexican food in an area, I'm not going to open a restaurant in that area. Simple as that, really.
Yeah he's acting like his restaurant is serving ground with miracle noodles and beef testicles or something wich very few people would actually like, but like well made.
"That elk is TENDER!" as his jaw muscles bulge and flex like he's chewing on an enormous wad of gum 🤣
I mean it's making his jaw tender... With pain 🤣
@@bioticjedi3864 my molars were in pain just watching that lol
He probably pre****ed the elk though.
600th like 😎
@@johntrevy1prechewed?
"I know more about fuckin' elk... and buffalo and beef than he'll ever know."
I'm inclined to believe this man. Now he just needs to understand that Gordon knows more about cooking those animals and that it has nothing to do with expertise in zoophilic fornication.
I love Kianas comment section it’s always full of clever funny comments like yours
Lol
chill bruh 😂
Ha! Ha! Best laugh of the day. I think Ramsey's experience is more culinary than fornicatory as regards animals. As far as I know no bestiality or practical zoophilia occurred during the making of these programmes!🤣😂
I made the same horrid joke, lol.
It’s always mind boggling how they reach out to him for help but get butt hurt when Gordon starts to do his job😂
Most of the owners want Ramsey to come in, love the food and be shocked that they are failing 😂
They expected him to love their food because unlike all _other people_ they are oh sooo special
It's a show. If Gordon came, told them everything they were doing wrong and they said, "Ok let's fix everything"
It wouldn't be as interesting.
@@noorrougelewis6704 I dunno, the British version of the show has a lot of episodes where the owner earnestly does want to fix things and the problems are more around bad time management, poor cooking skills, stubborn staff, cleanliness etc. instead of just a battle of pure ego, and it's a great watch. Different show than the American version for sure but both are engaging
@@MattShubert let's not forget no reverse snare or crappy music either lol
The waitress clapping her hands and looking like Gordon Ramsay was Santa Claus when her boss was getting schooled at 6:14 is so cute 😂
Yes. Like a Young child getting their favourite snack or something like that. (:
Just like pure joy
I heard he was tring to sue Gordon Ramsey after the show. And say stuff like the production team stole some stuff when they redecoreted the restaurant. And he fired everyone who criticed him. He tells stories about how unfair Gordon Ramsey was to him till this day..... The level is beyond words.
Some people are just mentally unstable. Can’t really talk to them. Kinda of just wasting your words and efforts on useless people.
@@andrewp3358 yeah its true but for example if someone like him is your boss. You cant just let it go. When someone like him have autority over you, you need to deal with it somehow or you lose your job. Of course in the long run probably losing your job is better than losing your sanety.
Same with Amy from Amy’s baking company, they’re delusional to this very day.
It's the worst and craziest owners that sue. They were probably looking for an excuse to from the beginning.
I still like to think Joe is chewing on that 'tender' piece of elk to this day.
LOL 😂😂😂
And he will pass it on his children, for sure. It will stay in his family forever 🙂
"elk"
SuperBenazaldehyde Yeahhhh it’s elkstructible AF,right?
Its incredibly ironic and telling that at 12:20 Joe says Ramsey is a narcissist. Joe is the literal walking DSM definition of a grandiose narcissist.
I also noticed that! And that makes me really sad about Joe, because he clearly didn't get the validation he needed in his life in a healthy way, so he does these things (talking to customers, seeking compliments about his elk) just to feel good and validated... but in an unhealthy way. It's really sad to see it put out like this, narcissists are like children in a lot of ways :(
I find that narcs are just pure projection, makes sense since they're not capable of empathy or thinking like anyone else 😂
Projecting like a drive in movie theater
@@bobbybob4680 Imma use that!
Projection indeed
I still find it funny Joe was so upset he said '5 seasons hotel'
Oh yeah, that 5th season
And denying something you said ON CAMERA 😂 😂 😂... Unreal
It fits, though, when you think about it. In his combination of arrogance and ignorance, he assumes that, if the Four Seasons is good, then surely the Five Seasons must be even better.
@@redrackham6812 it's 1 louder
The 5th season is carrot
I lived across a narrow street to a large, unruly Pub in Wales. The new owners spent an immense amount of money remodelling the pub into a beautiful real ale bar. Just before the reopening, my partner and I met the owner outside our home, and asked him about his plans. He explained how he believed the new look would attract a more sophisticated clientele than it had in the past. When we managed to stop laughing, we pointed out that in this little town, there wasn't such a thing as a "sophisticated clientele" here.
How's the pub doing?
@@Woodenfan The real ales go down well, but the alleyway behind the smoking garden is still an entertainment arena of after dark drunken pointless arguments and an unroofed public loo. Can often hear the unmistakeable mating call of the wild Welsh rugby fan echoing through the night as the pub closes, "Oiy oiy, oioioiiyyyyyyy, oioioiiyyyyyyy,!!!
For me, as a retail/food worker, like Samy & Amy, his biggest offense was how he treated his staff
He really only yells at people on this show when they're either mistreating their staff or risking poisoning the customers.
I really wish he'd asked Miranda what her hourly wage was.
Id like to know what joe is doing now
"Those same carrots go to the 5 seasons" continues to be a symphony of stupidity and I love it
In the context of the Rudy Giuliani fiasco, it's funny for me to imagine that the carrots are bought by a landscaping company. XD
@@mountainhun Still to this day, I cannot believe that happened lol. I know a lot of worse shit happened before and after that, but Four Seasons Total Landscaping just legit feels like a fever dream sometimes
i work in administration for university departments. If I botched something like that, i would get fired in a heartbeat
I dig these Kitchen Nightmares psychology breakdowns. Kitchen Nightmares in general is just a fascinating show; How Gordon Ramsay's efforts to save burgeoning businesses often ended up putting him in contact with some truly _bizarre_ and wild people, and it makes sense that not only is the show being uploaded on TH-cam so people can see these bizarre chefs and business owners, but also so we can examine the psychology of the people on display. I'll always remember the Cognitive Dissonance guy you covered last time.
I love these too! She's does such a great job of breaking down the psychology of the people. They always make me stop and think, am I displaying these behaviors in my life in any way? I'm always striving for self awareness and Kiana's breakdowns always give me a moment to pause and self-reflect.
Isn't it scripted??
After everything, Joe knows more about elk and beef than everyone else 😂😂😂😂😂
The way he switched so quickly when he was alerted that the customers outside were listening was comical. He's kind of like Michael Scott.
Honestly, Michael Scott is a saint compared to Joe Nagy for one simple reason: intent. Michael can be obtuse and make bad decisions, but, most of the time, he means well. Joe, by contrast, doesn’t have any good intent behind any of his actions. He’s arrogant, spiteful, bitter and defensive, thinking solely about massaging his own ego and losing his cool when his perception of himself is challenged. He never even TRIES to do anything in good faith.
Watching the servers’ delight at seeing their incompetent bosses get told gives me such life.
I went up to Idaho for work one summer. The guys invited me to 4th of July bbq. They had elk that they hunted themselves. Elk is definitely difficult to butcher right, but can be tender and yummy if done right. What I saw on that plate didn't look like what I had at that bbq. It even looked rubbery.
In Kitchen Nightmares Gordon is not even a chef most of the time, he is a therapist
I've eaten elk and moose that my uncle procured. It was some of the most tender and flavorful meat I've ever had. You just gotta know how to fix it right, Joe.😆
Thank you for another quality video! You put so much time and effort into your videos and it really shows. If you ever toy with the idea of shorter videos I'm sure we would all love those too!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Kiana! 🎅🌲🎁🥳🎉
aww thank you!!!
Noooooo....not shorts. This tiktok style trend needs to go.
@@24framedavinci39 hahaha yes I think tiktok is one of the worst things in existence. What I meant was shorter videos, like 5 minutes or less, if she had something she wanted say but it didn't fit anywhere into one of her longer topics. Even if she took clips from some of her videos and made them into shorts, it might help capture a bigger audience.
@@24framedavinci39 can't wait for it to get banned lol
I agree, I want to see Kiana in shorts👙👀
I've seen every episode of kitchen nightmares multiple times . Kitchen nightmares is why gordon is a personal hero of mine.
Have you also seen hotel hell?
Joe is the definition of the phrase "Don't sell me mutton and tell me it's lamb"
Wait I've seen this episode so many times and I never noticed that none of the animals on Joe's farm were elk lmao
Hey, so I'm kind of relapsing in my ed rn and your channel helps me so much overall, no matter what you're talking about. I love this episode I was hoping you would talk about this episode. Thank you
Hey I noticed this was two days ago and I just wanted to say I hope you made it through Christmas without too much hardship!! ♥️
sending you so much love! I uesd to battle with an ed myself. I would hug you if I could.
Same she is my comfort zone.
Narcissism is a hell of a drug.
Joe : "You don't hand me raw food in my dining room."
Every single person on the earth : Well, Joe. We *_W O N D E R_* who made the raw food in the first place.
Me trying to figure out where would be the appropriate place to hand him the raw food. Seems like a pretty normal dining room activity to me but okurrr.
For some reason "you don't hand the owner the little, petite carrots!" is cracking me up
My family calls me arrogant alot so I was prepared to take a little emotional damage while watching this but the point you made about him not caring if he was a jerk he just wants to look good to people and sees others as below him that actually kinda made me realize I'm not like that. I'm actually a huge people pleaser and will say I'm sorry if I'm acting like a bitch or just think I am. I do get really defensive when people call me out or say shit to me tho. I'm trying to work on it.
Also realize if you're being insulted in good faith. Sometimes people just say things to be mean. Not call out a problem.
@measlesplease1266 yah it's just been said too many times especially in arguments that I can't really belive its not true yk?
@@jayfranks3697 i mean your family can easily discuss things behind your back and have a consensus.
@measlesplease1266 yah maybe
“I’m trying to work on it.”
That’s all people want, really. That you put in some action to correcting yourself, true effort not just going thru the motions.
Whenever a boss I’ve had showed they were willing and able to get down into the dirty with us when dinner service was crazy, it always earned my respect. The fact Joe was not even willing to take two CARROTS from Gordon shows precisely how little respect he has for his servers and chefs.
Lol its far deeper then that, Joe is just crazy in the head granted he does work hard, he just thinks hes a amazing chef lol
I'd honestly kill for more Mukbang/My 600 Pound Life breakdowns of true life psychological examples. Right now I am focusing on self love and self betterment to lose weight again and I can't believe how I never took care of my mind the first time I lost the weight.
That level of delusion is really incredible, and quite tragic.
But another fab video! Thank you Kiana for your wonderfully insightful and intelligent videos. I love watching them. Good luck for the new year!
Narcissism. I was married to a man who behaved atrociously (arrogantly) behind closed doors but portrayed himself as a completely different person in public. If that ever broke down, a massive mantrum ensued.
I feel like Joe was hoping Ramsay would just offer him a job instead of... You know... Doing what he came there to do
never think you're so good that you can't take advice. there's ALWAYS room for improvement, even if YOU can't see it.
Oh, I love this. I haven't even watched yet and I know I'm gonna love it cause nothing makes me happier than arrogant people getting that massive slice of humble pie
iv been rlly enjoying these videos you make 😊
^_^
What’s interesting about how you describe arrogance is that it also fits the owners of the 2 previous KN episodes you covered. Sammy and Amy, and Jenn and Alan.
In fact, this is a common thing throughout KN, mainly with cases like Abby from Downcity, and David from Black Pearl.
Wow... honestly it is amazing he can't grasp most would rather eat at a pleasant dive then a "high end" place where the animosity towards both you the customer and the staff is the only thing harder to stomach then the food.
As someone raises on hinted elk and deer - if it was tender you wouldnt struggle to chew it like it's a massive wad of rubber. We always grind elk or cook it in stew to make it super yummy
I read someplace that Joe is now selling high end burgers and similar stuff from a mobile setup at festivals and such. Also apparently his stuff is good and he's a lot more....down to earth.
Guy is forcing customers to be his captive audiance. This delusional level of narcissism is actually scary. I'm not even sure if the best therapist in earth could help this small sad man.
Thanks Kiana! It's nice that you're moving into other topics besides weight loss, now that I reached maintenance myself I'm also looking into my other areas for self improvement.
Everyone can change, I choose to believe it
This Joe dude reminds me of my brother-in-law who abandoned his children, gets drunk and cheats on his women, does nothing at work but always posts on social media about how much of a great father, husband and a colleague he is :)) people like that will deny their fault and blame everybody but themselves even if the whole world turns away from them. They cannot be helped.
Elk Quesadilla. Every now and then i remember that and have a chuckle.
Thanks for reminding me of that gem.
My subway just came. Very good timing Kiana!!!
nice love it when things work out like that hahah
This isn’t even arrogance anymore that’s straight up narcissism
Exactly. "He says I'm a narcistic AH." He's projecting onto Gordon. The gaslighting and blame game sealed this for me.
I think Joe has a food truck nowadays, people who went there say he's still kinda angry and blames everything on Gordon till these days. Talk about holding a grudge right?
Wow. I wouldn’t even think he would get a food truck. Many make really good food.
This series is AMAZING and it is what introduced me and got me hooked to KN! Please do a video on Sebastian's (S01E06). That guy was shamelessly unhinged.
"Those same (undergrown) carrots go to The White House. Those same carrots go to The Five Seasons" does this man think the resort is called The Five Seasons?? It is called The Four Seasons because there are only four seasons.. Does he also think there are five seasons?
In this episode in particular, I personally believe that Joe only changed for the cameras, and not willingly by himself
Yeah its true. He fired everyone after that and sued Gordon Ramsey.
@@anetttiszai8588 Man, what a loser.
Really love these reality tv show breakdowns. Opens my eyes on things I need to either improve or observe these behaviors from other people. Also Joe talking to his customers about his problems is freaking ridiculous. The customers paid to enjoy a meal not have a therapy session with you 🤦♂️
Elk quesadilla sounds like a Fear Factor challenge.
I think a lot of People in modern Society need deep therapy for mental well being.
A lot of People get old, but never grow up.
yooo that’s me!
Kiana, You should do a video on Elon Musk. This is the most arrogant man in the world right now but he can justify it right?
Are you OK?
@@matthewrichard9626 Are you the same guy defending this owner?
It never fails, that there are three things that contribute to the downfall of a man, and those are: lust, greed, and arrogance, sometimes all 3.
Just found your channel and I gotta say, you make excellent content, your editing, pacing, commentary, its all great, definitely earned my sub.
Joe is so much like my father -- thanks for explaining this man, so I could better understand him
If you’re looking to do more from kitchen nightmares, how about that Italian guy Sammy, who microwaved the lasagna, great quotes such as "That soup was two days old but that doesn’t mean it’s garbage. Who is he, the fuckin health department?" and saying to a customer "You seem like a microwave expert, you know so much about ‘em"
That waitress clapping at the truth Gordon Ramsey was telling to the owner was delightful XD
It was him saying hes been trained by Europeans then saying "I never said that" for me!!! Excellent video and case study!❤
You should analyze some of the Kitchen Nightmares with multiple owners. Black Pearl or Dillon's are 2 interesting ones.
I think there was a restaurant owned by a pair of exes.
The greatest episode is the new Orleans episode that was removed from the series with the two brothers mo and someone else I forget his name but it's great , the staff call him "hurricane moe " it's probably the funniest episode of kitchen nightmares. Also "la galleria " is another personal favorite of mine . The "smoker" sister is hilarious 😂 😃
kiana with her hair back though! damn! ♥
How are you not a trained therapist? You could easily become on with your level of knowledge on behavioral science (I think that's what the topic is called)
6:17
Joe: I know more about fuckin elk.....and beef and buffalo than he'll ever know
The way he pauses to think about what he just said and continues is a bit alarming...
I love these comentaries on Kitchen Nightmares. Your channel introduced me to Gordon Ramsay's shows and made me fall in love with him
I'm a simple one. I see Kiana and I like. She's also helping with my ED and sequential weight loss.
People theorized that Joe might be an undiagnosed Narcissist for years with how arrogant and disrespectful he is. I think he's one of those people who blames Gordon for the failure/shut down of their restaurant
Yes! What does "I am self-taught by old-school Europeans" even mean?
I know, right.
4:58 The way that waitress looks like she is just dissociating while he's sitting there justifying his bad food lol.
I love your breakdown of arrogance. A lot of time people use the word narcissistic when they mean arrogance and with others complaining that we need to not throw important and heavy words like "narcissist" around so lightly as it does also tie to a personality disorder diagnosis, it's good to know that arrogance is a perfect replacement as it sums up everything people are often using "narcissistic" for.
Love your videos! They are so great and amazing! Thank you for making these amazing videos! 🎄🎁
it scares me that i knew someone personally who acts EXACTLY how joe acts. Thankfully that person is out of my life.
Was it you ?
Joe's arrogance is a clear example of how confidence (Key word is 'con') can delude us in absence of self-efficacy.
The biggest factor is Joe is not a classically trained chef. A student with a culinary certificate from a vocational school has more gastronomic acumen than Joe. He never mastered basic culinary techniques (stock making, meat fabrication, food preservation, etc), worked or eaten at a fine dining restaurant, and is just another clown with money. Without a basic culinary foundation to build on, Joe can't change his menu in any way that's efficient or cost effective. All he can do is cut costs. He thinks he can bypass the training and time it takes to be a good chef.
I went to an accredited culinary school and have met students who rode Amtrak 3 hours every other day to attend classes. They have the drive and passion to put out good food. They deserve the opportunity to own and run a restaurant, not to have gatekeepers like Joe hog the real-estate, equipment, and decent staff members just because he thinks he's entitled to success. When play time is over and it's not fun for them anymore, they'll sell their business without a second thought, and the fake passion dies out.
A TH-cam-trained home cook could probably cook better than Joe.
And Joe had the audacity to sue Gordon after this, claiming the camera crew messed up the ceiling before they left and meat went missing.
Gordon and all the staff should have walked out and never came back. Joe is a horrible, nasty narcissistic person.
I. can't. stand. him.
'You don't hand me raw food in my dining room'
*maybe don't fucking serve it then, especially when it's NOT NECESSARY*
I will say it does seem pretty silly to fixate on the carrots. I think they are a cute garnish. Why fixate on the small problems when there are massive issues to address?
Legend has it he is still chewing that elk to this day
“I know more about fucking elk…”
Enough about your personal life, Joe.
6:18 don't know if I'd admit that lol
lol i was looking for a comment like that, how did he not hear it when he said it?🙈
@Caroline Luna lol right
I feel sorry for his wife and children
I love those breakdowns!
You should really try Lido, it is a rare success story on Kitchen Nightmare and I think it would provide a good counterpoint to the previous ones.
Merry Kianamass to you all!
Legend has it that Joe is still chewing on that tender piece of elk.
Is this stuff real? I have the feeling watching bad actors trying to do reality tv 😅
Acting stupid on camera only to then deny it 10 minutes later to that same camera. Truly impressive. Bravo 👏
I’d love to hear your take on this hotel manager :
Hotel Hell S03E03 "Town's Inn“.
Seeing a middle-aged man behaving in that way makes me sad, because at this stage of life, it's really hard to change one's mentality. So cruel, so vulgar his behavior, so weak, so pathetic his soul.
Move over Schroedinger's cat, Joe's elk is the new hot thing nowadays
Also gotta love the term "old school Europeans" makes it sound like we're some species of forest elves hahaha
"WE responded by adding more onions to the soup" the other chef had no idea he did that.
When it's negative, it's suddenly WE. When he can gain something, it's I, ME
It's not just arrogance, it's narcissism. He's a walking textbook definition of a grandiose narcissist.
Imagine being married to that man
HE’S MARRIED!? Oh that poor woman! The way he tried to gaslight Ramsey, makes my heart hurt for his wife.
“Self taught by old school Europeans”
You should break down The juniper hill inn with Gordon Ramsay. The owner was so odd, it would be great to see your point of view.
There's two kinds of people in this world. Those who will hand literally anyone carrots, regardless of their state of rawness, or location... And those who are irrationally offended at being handed things.
Legend has it, he's still chewing that piece of elk to this very day.
"These carrots go to the five seasons"
After Gordon kicks him out, he really sounds like he is on something. IMO