Of course you have a camera with not only one cold shoe but three of them. Nice test and I guess the sanding of a new item will be quite exclusive on youtube. Thank you for sharing
One essential feature of any cold shoe meter is that the “foot” is moveable to fit a particular camera. A meter that does not interfere with the controls on one camera might be in the way on another.
Hey Nick, I was very anxious that you were sanding a brand new metal device that looked cool! But it looked good with the brass base showing through! Cool meter. Pics came out great. I probably would compare the readings with what I get on my old selenium Sekonic meter to be sure it’s close. Great video! 👍🏻
Thank Tony! Yeah totally felt weird to be sanding it, but that is a feature of this light meter, so I figured I'd better test it out. I was tempted to compare side by side with my Sekonic, but realistically these reflected light meters aren't going to be super accurate anyway are they? They're metering everything in front of the camera, so I actually think looking for pinpoint accuracy is probably the wrong way of using them anyway. I was pretty happy just using it to see if the light was significantly different from the previous reading, and then adjusting according to that.
I purchased the same meter back in December. The plan is to use it on a variety of my MF film cameras if the weather might accidentally find itself cooperating with my Photographic wishes. In my around-the-house testing, it seems to be on par with the Sekonic L758DR in reflective mode. It seems a lot more durable than the similar TT Artisans meter I bought last Spring. The TT Artisan meter has a series of screws that are supposed to held the shoe portion in place over the battery compartment and those screws come loose and fall off way too easily.
The build quality definitely seems good. It feels reassuringly solid. I haven't dropped it yet, who knows how it might perform if dropped. Maybe I should start doing those kind of youtube videos? Where I run over it with a truck and stuff??
I received my Stenopeika Air Force 4x5: that's a great camera. The only flaw is the ground glass. It is pretty dark to me but OK with a magnifier. Zero-ing is a Plus and the camera is very light
Interesting, I haven't really noticed the ground glass being dark. But maybe I'm more used to low quality cameras! Congrats on your new camera, there's no better feeling right?
@@ironwoodjones8599 I actually have a hammer in my camera repair kit. And not a small one! Because sometimes stuff just doesn’t want to play ball, and needs some firmer encouragement!
Be honest with you, I believe both the Reveni meter and the Reflxlab meters are better as far as size and form factor. Reveni even sells 3D printed cold shoes that can be put on camera with adhesive. I did this for my Bronica S2.
didn't know reveni sold those, definitely a good add on! I think this sort of meter is useful, I'm not sure how much better or worse one form is over another. There are a lot of them about now!
Thanks for that. Just ordered one. I have to say that your channel is my 'go-to' place for anything and everything medium format related and, due to your obvious liking for them, I'm hankering after an S2A. Shame they didn't make the ETRSi with chrome bits.. Santa brought me two lenses for Christmas. An almost new 75mm EII and a 150mm MC - which despite it being the older version has been very well looked after. Not sure if I want to go chasing any more lenses now, I have the 75mm and 150mm mentioned before, I also have a 75mm MC which came with the camera and I have been able to get my hands on a pretty reasonable 40mm MC. I have five 120 backs, an AE2 prism, a rotating prism and the speed grip. A pretty well complete kit. And I'm extremely happy with it all. Outside of this I use Nikon DSLR's but 'old school'; I have a D3S and D3X. Fun to use but not as much fun as the Bronica. Keep up the excellent work, your videos are informative, enlightening and entertaining. Stay well, keep safe.
Only Nic will find a bit of joy in sanding ones new gear.....lol, but of course aging the look of ones gear can only make one a better photographer I would think......lol
I quite enjoyed it! I was definitely happy with the results. I think the meter looks much better afterwards. And you’re definitely correct… ageing gear 100% makes you a better photographer. Confirmed.
They're definitely handy. I'm not sure this one will become my every day meter. Especially if I'm using photographic techniques that require more accuracy. But for a quick reference tool, to check where you're at, it's pretty solid.
Confused, you've got a metered prism finder on the ETRSi. Is it broken? Cringed a bit when you took sandpaper to the AstrHori but must admit I liked the result.
I only actually put on the prism finder because I don’t like using the speed grip with the WLF, and forgot that it was a metered prism, if I’m honest. I don’t often use the meter. I cringed myself when I took out the sandpaper, but it’s one of the selling points of the light meter! 🤷♂️
@@the120ist The prism meter is of it's time, centre weighted. Use a Gossen for incident light or the prism meter on manual setting for reflective, measuring for the shadows. Using the prism meter on auto doesn't work well as the ETRSi doesn't have an exposure lock function. I took off the speed grip as well as it made the camera too bulky.
I would just use like my father used his old Weston meter and point it down to the ground to take readings, that thing is still working and needs no batteries
I have a few Weston meters! I haven't really given them much use, but they're similar to what you're describing - no batteries, pretty solid and easy to use. I assume the light sensitive cells will wear out in them eventually? Like they do in cameras like the Trip35?
Any photographer with some experience knows to open up the exposure a stop or two when reading light from a backlit scene, snow covered ground, or sandy beaches etc. Expecting a light meter to spoon feed data to make a good photo is plain ridiculous.
After watching this video I went to Taobao and got myself doomo one. The built quality is good, metering is accurate and it looks so nice on my gw690!
Doomo are doing some nice stuff! Ones to watch for sure. Did you go for the S or the D (with two dials)?
Of course you have a camera with not only one cold shoe but three of them. Nice test and I guess the sanding of a new item will be quite exclusive on youtube. Thank you for sharing
Ha ha! I do! But it is currently in the repair queue! It needs some attention. Poor thing.
Duomo have brass & black paint meters as well - they ship theirs with an emery board to allow you to faux patina them.
Ah really? I haven't seen those on sale anywhere. So not a new idea then! Are there any new ideas left in the world??
Great little meter!
One essential feature of any cold shoe meter is that the “foot” is moveable to fit a particular camera. A meter that does not interfere with the controls on one camera might be in the way on another.
I believe the foot is moveable on this one. I didn't go into that in the vid, but pretty sure you can do it.
I'll need to get this for my Mamiya 645 Pro!
Hey Nick, I was very anxious that you were sanding a brand new metal device that looked cool! But it looked good with the brass base showing through! Cool meter. Pics came out great. I probably would compare the readings with what I get on my old selenium Sekonic meter to be sure it’s close. Great video! 👍🏻
Thank Tony! Yeah totally felt weird to be sanding it, but that is a feature of this light meter, so I figured I'd better test it out. I was tempted to compare side by side with my Sekonic, but realistically these reflected light meters aren't going to be super accurate anyway are they? They're metering everything in front of the camera, so I actually think looking for pinpoint accuracy is probably the wrong way of using them anyway. I was pretty happy just using it to see if the light was significantly different from the previous reading, and then adjusting according to that.
I purchased the same meter back in December. The plan is to use it on a variety of my MF film cameras if the weather might accidentally find itself cooperating with my Photographic wishes. In my around-the-house testing, it seems to be on par with the Sekonic L758DR in reflective mode. It seems a lot more durable than the similar TT Artisans meter I bought last Spring. The TT Artisan meter has a series of screws that are supposed to held the shoe portion in place over the battery compartment and those screws come loose and fall off way too easily.
The build quality definitely seems good. It feels reassuringly solid. I haven't dropped it yet, who knows how it might perform if dropped. Maybe I should start doing those kind of youtube videos? Where I run over it with a truck and stuff??
Hi! After this time, how have you found the performance of this lightmeter?
I received my Stenopeika Air Force 4x5: that's a great camera. The only flaw is the ground glass. It is pretty dark to me but OK with a magnifier. Zero-ing is a Plus and the camera is very light
Interesting, I haven't really noticed the ground glass being dark. But maybe I'm more used to low quality cameras! Congrats on your new camera, there's no better feeling right?
@@the120ist yes, roots of photography. I think I misused dark cloth, I will test again Sunday, the only day for photography
A bit of DIY creeping in to the into the channel ! I like it, right up my street 😉
Hey Andy!! The sandpaper and hammer are never far from my antique cameras…. 👀
Glad to hear it you just can't beat a good hammer for all those delicate and frustrating moments @@the120ist 🤣
@@ironwoodjones8599 I actually have a hammer in my camera repair kit. And not a small one! Because sometimes stuff just doesn’t want to play ball, and needs some firmer encouragement!
Be honest with you, I believe both the Reveni meter and the Reflxlab meters are better as far as size and form factor. Reveni even sells 3D printed cold shoes that can be put on camera with adhesive. I did this for my Bronica S2.
didn't know reveni sold those, definitely a good add on! I think this sort of meter is useful, I'm not sure how much better or worse one form is over another. There are a lot of them about now!
Good video as usual Nick 🤝 keep it up
Cheers mate!!
that's a cool little meter love it i just sand a bit more and maybe a little bit here.
So hard to stop once you start!!
Do tell.. where can I get one in the UK? All the sales sites I have see are US or China..
Pretty sure you can get them on Amazon…? Let me check
Try here - amzn.eu/d/2suo2gT
Thanks for that. Just ordered one. I have to say that your channel is my 'go-to' place for anything and everything medium format related and, due to your obvious liking for them, I'm hankering after an S2A. Shame they didn't make the ETRSi with chrome bits.. Santa brought me two lenses for Christmas. An almost new 75mm EII and a 150mm MC - which despite it being the older version has been very well looked after. Not sure if I want to go chasing any more lenses now, I have the 75mm and 150mm mentioned before, I also have a 75mm MC which came with the camera and I have been able to get my hands on a pretty reasonable 40mm MC. I have five 120 backs, an AE2 prism, a rotating prism and the speed grip. A pretty well complete kit. And I'm extremely happy with it all. Outside of this I use Nikon DSLR's but 'old school'; I have a D3S and D3X. Fun to use but not as much fun as the Bronica.
Keep up the excellent work, your videos are informative, enlightening and entertaining. Stay well, keep safe.
Only Nic will find a bit of joy in sanding ones new gear.....lol, but of course aging the look of ones gear can only make one a better photographer I would think......lol
I quite enjoyed it! I was definitely happy with the results. I think the meter looks much better afterwards. And you’re definitely correct… ageing gear 100% makes you a better photographer. Confirmed.
Nice video. I have a similar meter that I use occasionally.
They're definitely handy. I'm not sure this one will become my every day meter. Especially if I'm using photographic techniques that require more accuracy. But for a quick reference tool, to check where you're at, it's pretty solid.
Confused, you've got a metered prism finder on the ETRSi. Is it broken? Cringed a bit when you took sandpaper to the AstrHori but must admit I liked the result.
I only actually put on the prism finder because I don’t like using the speed grip with the WLF, and forgot that it was a metered prism, if I’m honest. I don’t often use the meter. I cringed myself when I took out the sandpaper, but it’s one of the selling points of the light meter! 🤷♂️
Don’t often use the meter on the prism I mean.
@@the120ist The prism meter is of it's time, centre weighted. Use a Gossen for incident light or the prism meter on manual setting for reflective, measuring for the shadows. Using the prism meter on auto doesn't work well as the ETRSi doesn't have an exposure lock function. I took off the speed grip as well as it made the camera too bulky.
I would just use like my father used his old Weston meter and point it down to the ground to take readings, that thing is still working and needs no batteries
I have a few Weston meters! I haven't really given them much use, but they're similar to what you're describing - no batteries, pretty solid and easy to use. I assume the light sensitive cells will wear out in them eventually? Like they do in cameras like the Trip35?
Nice. Perfect for my heavy worn Fujica G960 - and it has cold shoe 🤭
I think this would look awesome on the G690! A good fit.
I bought this small light meter and it NEVER worked. Be careful.
dont sand your lens
Red rag ----> bull
Any photographer with some experience knows to open up the exposure a stop or two when reading light from a backlit scene, snow covered ground, or sandy beaches etc. Expecting a light meter to spoon feed data to make a good photo is plain ridiculous.
Isn't live painfully exhausting if you always are such a disgruntled angry little beeing?
Too bad it has a digital readout
What can you do? Almost looks the part though!
@@the120ist
TT artisans has similar one that has dials