What a great educational video. Thank you Balogh. Like many, I'm struggling with hairspring manipulation. Getting it on plane proved elusive - never quite got the technique to twist it back to flat. Always going back and forth, twist part A, part B goes out, adjust part B, part A goes out. Like a dog chasing it's tail. Apart from the technique, this video clearly demonstrates the need for ultra patience.
For me, watching your video was like watching a high speed car chase. Very exciting stuff. I learned a lot from your technique. Excellent job! When you bent the coil up mid video I almost fell out of my chair. You recovered it beautifully, so well done!
No need to show all the wrong trials, I think I covered them all. What we need to see is the best practice. Thank you again for your excellent demonstration.
Geez I learned a lot. In addition to your technique, I pinned the collet using a cut off and trimmed down standard pin. I pushed it through two layers of standard white paper into a rubber mat below. This whole thing is about 4" x 4" square so it rotates easily when I need to get to the other side of the spring, plus it prevents the spring from rotating or jumping around on its own while i am working on it. Now it is much easier to work on the spring.
GREAT VIDEO... This is one video you should watch to learn PATIENCE and CONCENTRATION !!! Very, very therapeutic... Congratulations on a job well done, especially rectifying the blunder of bending it by mistake at the end part.
I had done it a lot of times, most damage done to balance springs by their owners not knowing how delicate these parts are. I had perfected the art all by myself. Worked on most famous brands.
Thanks for the advice. Well I did not totally destroy my first go at it but I did not get it to a usable condition either. I need a lot more practice still.....
Halfway through, and I am wondering how the simple use of the spring doesn’t cause damage by exerting the same pressures you are to fix it. I am BeeeeeeWilllllllllDerrrrrrrrrd!
Is a repaired hairspring never as good as a new one tho. Even if it's original. The strength of the metal cam never be the same again. Right? I mean it's amazing that it could be repaired to such a good shape but is it worth it?
Amazing you do this by hand, but is there a machine that can straighten out and recoil this? I can't imagine how many hours you put into this. Are they that expensive that they need this much care?
No machine for this but old watchmakers have an other method i was not dare to try. Not many hours really. Before this one i was practicing on some bigger pocket watch springs and scrap broken springs. Not expensive but no way to replace so repair is the most convenient method.
thanks a lote i hope i can make it. i never do that, i only assemble a automatic watch but incomes to balance wheel or hairspring i will call my father for help haha but thanks i have an idea already thanks a lot i want to expand my skills with this .sorry for my bad english coz dis is my second language hehe from the phils. Thank you
To the best of my knowledge blue is the old type carbon steel heat treated and annealed, hence the blue color. The black should be the same i think or something new material which i am not familiar with. There is also the Rolex ceramic or something like that blue hairspring. The "white" is some kind of new inox alloy. Antimagnetic and its properties are less prone to temperature change compared to the old blue. There are also some brass hairsprings in old low-end watches. Similar ones to old instrumental displays like an analogu Volt meter.
Thanks for the respond... if the end of hairspring which is connected to yellow metal plate c shape as shown in your video break off at the end, would it possible to reinstall it to that plate?
Yes it is posible to reinstall a hairspring to the collet. It is fixed in a hole with a small pin. At least on older watches. On the other hand one will need possibly a new hairspring since the broken one will be shorter, hence the watch faster. Hove not done such a repair yet.
El meterce a la reparación de la parte más frágil en un reloj es admirable , yo creo que después de la profesión médica como la del neurocirujano , esta también es muy admirable
Did you end up getting all the kinks out? not an easy task, especially when recording and having the camera in the way. good job! great videos, keep up the good work!
Sir I think that if I was so bad at recoiling a balance spring as you have demonstrated I would not be making a video and putting it on TH-cam. You have a lot to learn about recoiling balance springs.
Thank you for your honesty, only I am nearly 80 years old and have been recoiling balance springs for about 60 years. I don't use tweezers, I use two VERY small sewing needles with the tip of the eye end ground back leaving what looks like a two pronged fork then with the pointed end pushed into a piece of peg wood. These fine eye ends of the needles fit nicely between the coils of the spring with the spring sitting in the forks. It works well for recoiling and flatting the the spring. But you do have to be very calm with steady hands. Good luck. Ol
Balogh Szabolcs let me know how you get on, you only need a short length of needle sticking out of the peg wood, and I have a few different sizes of needles for different size balance springs, "O" and hold your breathing will doing it.😵😵😵
What a great educational video. Thank you Balogh. Like many, I'm struggling with hairspring manipulation. Getting it on plane proved elusive - never quite got the technique to twist it back to flat. Always going back and forth, twist part A, part B goes out, adjust part B, part A goes out. Like a dog chasing it's tail. Apart from the technique, this video clearly demonstrates the need for ultra patience.
For me, watching your video was like watching a high speed car chase. Very exciting stuff. I learned a lot from your technique. Excellent job! When you bent the coil up mid video I almost fell out of my chair. You recovered it beautifully, so well done!
Thank You! It need a lot of practice and good tools to avoid these accidents. There are a lot of wrong trials which i did not show :)
No need to show all the wrong trials, I think I covered them all. What we need to see is the best practice. Thank you again for your excellent demonstration.
It takes a special kind of person with a love for the craft to call this exciting but I will say it was enlightening and satisfying to watch.
Incredible! The winding pitch of the spring is about 130 microns, and the thickness of the spring ribbon is about 20 microns! Amazing job!
Thank You :)
Geez I learned a lot. In addition to your technique, I pinned the collet using a cut off and trimmed down standard pin. I pushed it through two layers of standard white paper into a rubber mat below. This whole thing is about 4" x 4" square so it rotates easily when I need to get to the other side of the spring, plus it prevents the spring from rotating or jumping around on its own while i am working on it. Now it is much easier to work on the spring.
Csak most akadtam rá a videora. Fel is iratkoztam. Csodálatos munka, ez már müvészet. Gratulálok.
Balog Gyula.
GREAT VIDEO... This is one video you should watch to learn PATIENCE and CONCENTRATION !!!
Very, very therapeutic...
Congratulations on a job well done, especially rectifying the blunder of bending it by mistake at the end part.
Thank You!
I had done it a lot of times, most damage done to balance springs by their owners not knowing how delicate these parts are. I had perfected the art all by myself. Worked on most famous brands.
very impressive. Slow calculated and methodical work. Looks like it would take a great deal of practice to master that skill.
Great video! What purpose did the bend at 10:55 serve? Or did you not mean to bend it that much?
Thank you! It was a failure XD
Very impressive. I'll be giving it a go today. Inspiration is everything sometimes.
Be prepared ruining the first few ;) Practice on common pieces first!
Thanks for the advice. Well I did not totally destroy my first go at it but I did not get it to a usable condition either. I need a lot more practice still.....
Never tried correcting ‘behind’ the stationary tweezer instead of in front of it. That spring would be a dead duck in my hands. Helpful!
This is unbelievable. really amazing, great work.
Thank You very much!
Excellent, and amazing!
Дякую вам за працю 😊❤
Köszönjük a hasznos videót!
Szép munka!
Rám is vár egy omega breguet hajszálrugó.
Nice work!
Halfway through, and I am wondering how the simple use of the spring doesn’t cause damage by exerting the same pressures you are to fix it. I am
BeeeeeeWilllllllllDerrrrrrrrrd!
Is a repaired hairspring never as good as a new one tho. Even if it's original. The strength of the metal cam never be the same again. Right? I mean it's amazing that it could be repaired to such a good shape but is it worth it?
It is close to impossible to get NOS parts for these movements.
So awesome work bro thank you for video...
Thanks a lot ,very nicely great job
Amazing job
From Indonesian Country : Nice tutorial and what is tweezer, bent or straight please answer
It has a bent and sharpened end.
@@szbalogh thank you for your answered
Hello, great video, but do you know where to buy hairspring for LeCoultre Caliber818 ?? Thanks
Dont know, sorry. But, Vacheron 1014 is the same movement.
thanks
Parabéns pelo excelente vídeo 👏👏👏👏
very nice work thanks for you
Amazing you do this by hand, but is there a machine that can straighten out and recoil this? I can't imagine how many hours you put into this. Are they that expensive that they need this much care?
No machine for this but old watchmakers have an other method i was not dare to try. Not many hours really. Before this one i was practicing on some bigger pocket watch springs and scrap broken springs. Not expensive but no way to replace so repair is the most convenient method.
Balogh Szabolcs thanks for the explanation. I just started getting into mechanical watches and this is amazing!
thanks a lote i hope i can make it. i never do that, i only assemble a automatic watch but incomes to balance wheel or hairspring i will call my father for help haha but thanks i have an idea already thanks a lot i want to expand my skills with this .sorry for my bad english coz dis is my second language hehe from the phils.
Thank you
may i ask a question...what is the different between blue, black or white hair spring?
To the best of my knowledge blue is the old type carbon steel heat treated and annealed, hence the blue color. The black should be the same i think or something new material which i am not familiar with. There is also the Rolex ceramic or something like that blue hairspring. The "white" is some kind of new inox alloy. Antimagnetic and its properties are less prone to temperature change compared to the old blue. There are also some brass hairsprings in old low-end watches. Similar ones to old instrumental displays like an analogu Volt meter.
Thanks for the respond... if the end of hairspring which is connected to yellow metal plate c shape as shown in your video break off at the end, would it possible to reinstall it to that plate?
Yes it is posible to reinstall a hairspring to the collet. It is fixed in a hole with a small pin. At least on older watches. On the other hand one will need possibly a new hairspring since the broken one will be shorter, hence the watch faster. Hove not done such a repair yet.
I think that the black steel is the result of washing the balance in too rich ammonia mixture. It can (and does) blacken entire movements.
El meterce a la reparación de la parte más frágil en un reloj es admirable , yo creo que después de la profesión médica como la del neurocirujano , esta también es muy admirable
How does this even happen??? Did homie drop his watch so hard the balance fell out??
Such patience I am sadly lacking. By the way, how does a hairspring get so distorted in the first place?
I dont know.
amazing work i like it
Boa noite colega eu sou relojoeiro to aprendendo desipena o espiral do relógio automatico parabéns pelo seu vídeo um forte abraço irmão 👨⚕️⌚🤜🤛
From Indonesian Country : Mr. Balogh Please make tutorial video modification tweezers for repair distortion hairspring, thank you
Did you end up getting all the kinks out? not an easy task, especially when recording and having the camera in the way. good job! great videos, keep up the good work!
Thank You! I would say yes, almost perfect. Made a quick check in the movement and it works great. It is flat and centered.
The Patience of a saint!
Sir I think that if I was so bad at recoiling a balance spring as you have demonstrated I would not be making a video and putting it on TH-cam. You have a lot to learn about recoiling balance springs.
True, some of them ended in the trash :)
Thank you for your honesty, only I am nearly 80 years old and have been recoiling balance springs for about 60 years. I don't use tweezers, I use two VERY small sewing needles with the tip of the eye end ground back leaving what looks like a two pronged fork then with the pointed end pushed into a piece of peg wood. These fine eye ends of the needles fit nicely between the coils of the spring with the spring sitting in the forks. It works well for recoiling and flatting the the spring. But you do have to be very calm with steady hands. Good luck.
Ol
These are long forgotten techniques. It is really hard to get to know them. Thank You for sharing! I will try it for sure ;)
Balogh Szabolcs let me know how you get on, you only need a short length of needle sticking out of the peg wood, and I have a few different sizes of needles for different size balance springs, "O" and hold your breathing will doing it.😵😵😵
What an excellent technique from a master. I wouldn't have thought of it. Thank you for sharing it with us.
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As tricky jobs go that's right up there with nailing jelly to a ceiling!
Nailing jelly to a ceiling is way easier
Exelliant. Jon OC
Thank You ;)
ok, perfect
Thank You!
The worst that can happen, it is to make worse or not reach perfection, A drop of sweat on the forehead!
Wow.
Espiral Breguet 😃
Lockdown Fun....lol
Ja
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