Takes a special kind of evil to have someone you forced on a caving trip to fall and die and then say, "nah, she would've died from a heartattack anyway, not my fault."
Fr though, especially considering heart attacks arent a death sentence but falling 100 feet definitely is. Its like saying "well ik i hit them with my car, but its not my fault they died, he was super old and would have died soon anyway"
@@vinny-is-here Tbf, that's probably how the lawyer got a license. Call me a cynic but many lawyers aren't really into the business of justice. They represent a client and they will do anything in the best of their abilities to get their client their get out of jail free ticket.
I caved in a place in northern Arkansas that had a section called “the birth canal”. It actually wasn’t too bad, because the horizontal space was more than sufficient, it was just really tight on vertical space. It was a turn your head and all toes and hands to move through
I went to a dual diagnosis center that was absolutely incredible. It may have saved my life. Our field trip was to the FLOWER FIELDS. We went to the safest place they could think of. I can’t even fathom why they would go CAVING in a structurally unsound space. The idea of treatment is to REDUCE or REMOVE erratic risk-taking. And we were all 18+. Taking CHILDREN there just makes no sense.
I guarantee none of those adults leading that activity were certified, had any experience, had any business being in their line of work let alone leading "troubled teens" on an outdoor activity, etc. Even WHEN adults are more qualified than these people, this crap happens. A freakin' Boy Scout leader almost got his group of kids stuck in Nutty Putty Cave before that one caver died upside down in it.
"Zippy was bitten by a coral snake and none of the horrible instructors had the anti-venom in their medical kit." Oh no wait, they stopped producing it entirely because it's not a profitable enough product. I forgot.
I’ve been Skydiving for 40+ years and find it relaxing yet get my adrenaline rush. If I enter a cave, I need to be able to stand in it, and see the exit at all times.Exploring and crawling around a stone coffin is something I don’t need in my life.
The first story is insane, and really just goes to show that so many systems in charge of caring for children are broken. It is entirely the counselor’s and the group home’s fault. There’s no way to definitely know Kiley would’ve just had a heart attack and died anyway. What if it was exacerbated by her fear of the cave? What if she had the heart attack anyway but was at the group home where medical help would’ve been available? What if she lived another 50 years before her undiagnosed problem caught up with her? People survive heart attacks all the time, but there’s no way she could’ve survived a 150 foot drop in a cave led by incompetent leaders.
All fair points. I found it disgusting that the group home carers said straight away it wasn't their fault. And I wonder why they weren't held accountable after the cause of death was given?
@@uanime1 An accident that would've never happened in a more appropriate day outing for people with those kinds of issues... beyond that, even if you do deem caving an appropriate activity it was obviously culpable due to the lack of precautions the counselors took, i.e. the lack of lighting mentioned in the video. It being a tragic accident doesn't automatically mean no one is at fault, even if it's just partial fault.
@@uanime1 Accidents happen, but that doesn't mean that nobody is at fault for the accident. Maybe it doesn't mean you go as far as charging someone with manslaughter, but it should have at least brought about a serious investigation into their qualifications as caregivers.
one thing I’ve learned from this channel is that if a cave has a section called something like “the intestine” “the clamp” “the squeeze” “the crawl” or “the crunch” … don’t go in there.
I am never going to get over the fact that some childcare professionals like counselors and teachers occasionally have a bright idea to bring a bunch of kids underground for recreational purposes
Reminds one time my school planned a trip hiking out to bear mountain in NY state. I didn’t go cause i was sick. It was around April, so the weather was cool and rainy. Trip itself went fine from what i heard but some didn’t like it. At ine point a cave trip was thought of, never went through. Teachers said they would not put theor students in such a dangerous environment
It's not a bad idea as long as A. It's planned well with well trained people. B. An group appropriate difficulty is chosen. C. Emergency response gear and a plan is taken.
And with no proper supplies, a third of the lamps, to a cave system that the government tried to blow up the entrance to TWICE because experts considered it "too dangerous"... this is so beyond dodgy and I can not believe they weren't held accountable and sued into oblivion!
First story pissed me off. I would've gone to the media, then attempted to sue them into the ground. They kill my child and then dare to say she would've died soon anyway!? I can't believe they're still open, what gross negligence.
I dare say it's involuntary manslaughter. But they did it to a teen girl in a group home. Apparently, they don't count as humans in the eyes of authority.
@@Orquet-qj2nfit’s absolutely disgusting. I’m assuming the “undiagnosed heart problem” is long qt syndrome or something similar. I personally know someone who survived it and multiple cardiac arrests afterwords. That being said, extreme fear can trigger heart attacks in people who are susceptible to them. Same with anger and stress. They should’ve been shut down immediately.
@@spiderzvow1 I know a lot about them unfortunately. Some people who work at these places are truly good and are there for the right reasons... but they seem to be few and far between, and they don’t end up staying most of the time because of the things their coworkers and/or higher ups do or allow to happen. It traumatizes them as well. Just horrible.
These residential treatment facilities are not safe, healthy or productive for children. And a bunch of them operate out of Utah because the laws there make it easier for them to operate with low oversight, and the land allows them to be isolated from communities.
Haha!! I got my hand stuck trying to get something that dropped under my drivers seat once and stupidly went into panic mode, taking about a minute of struggling to force my hand out. Ripped my hand all up. Felt like an idiot afterwards but getting stuck freaks me out. Some of these cave stories of people getting stuck in tiny crevices barely able to breathe makes my hands sweat.
Thank you for telling the story of how loved Kiley was before going into the story of her tragic death. It shows her the respect she deserved, but sadly never received from the people responsible for her safety. I hope that the telling of these stories online will help enforce accountability.
you're telling me someone working in the troubled teen industry both failed a troubled teen and was callous about her death? how shocking and totally unheard of!! it makes me so angry what happened to Kiley, the trip shouldn't have even happened but unfortunately hardcore "field trips" like this are common in the troubled teen industry. They definitely knew it was dangerous and simply didn't care.
The TTI needs to be shut down, NOW. But they keep finding loopholes and lying, and kids get hurt. Kids get killed and are left with a lifetime of trauma, far worse off than they were before. I can’t imagine sending my kid to a place like that. I’d try everything else. But I’d never send them to an abusive and neglectful “program” masquerading as therapy. Kids don’t need to be sent away. They need help.
@@TeaCup1940says who? Oh right, says you, with your clearly immense knowledge in child psychology. Yes, we should listen to you. Okay, sarcasm aside, wtf does your comment have to do with the fact that the troubled teen industry is abusive? What are you trying to say? I genuinely have no clue.
Sadly most of those “troubled youth” programs are actually terrible and abusive towards the children. They constantly skirt (or try to skirt) responsibility and have been known to use anything to make the children comply with their demands. Sending kids away to live with strangers due to drug problems is in my opinion a terrible idea
I had several friends in HS who ended up in group homes and I can say I am absolutely NOT surprised. The leaders there are grossly corrupt and disgusting. They often don't care about the kids in the slightest. A friend had one of the councilors tell her to end herself. This story enrages me. Kiley deserved justice, and that man deserved prison.
@@OpossumOnTheMoon If a child of mine had very serious behavioural problems I would then take the child with me to our ancestral home in the highlands where she would live as we have for centuries (but with electricity, no electronics just light bulbs). Modern society really overstimulates people, spending many months with only as much stimulation as nature provides would reset ones expectations to what humans have evoled for. Such is the plan.
A caving expedition for these women to begin with wasn't a good idea. Way too many participants with room for error especially considering these are women with problems in their personal lives too. Aggravating that the home never got charged or took responsibility.
You already know the subject of this channel and you see the title before you hear the song...use your brain, that's why lucifer gifted man with an intellect
It always shocks me that when someone goes missing while diving, instead of leaving the cave and calling emergency services IMMEDIATELY, people try to search for themselves - which only causes more lives to be lost.
As of this day, it's confirm of just only heart attack and not the fall, lead the group not to be blame or held responsible. (at least was told from one of them)
When I watch Dive Talk I find myself heavily relating to Woody’s urge to pause the video every five seconds, thinking “why would they do that???” ._. Cavern and wrecks yes, tech diving and caves are a no-go for me. Once we get into ceilings, imaginary or real, I’m out 😗✌🏽 I already get bored doing 3 min safety stops-you want me to do 2 hours of deco? Nah
Age 12. Late 80s. I refused to go forward on a school trip climbing the Poconos. I faked an asthma attack because I was so scared of the weather climbing this mountain. Knee dip snow. Blizzard. A teacher took me back with irritation. You're THAT kid. My class was missing for 18 hours; everyone was rescued, so it was never considered a big deal. But I watched my friends parents for that 18 hours. It was a catastrophe with a miraculous ending. They did that trip again for 4 years until it was deemed highly unsafe.
You know your house can put you in that situation, while you're sleeping your house collapses on you, you survive but you're in a tight space and you have to crawl if possible and you may not make it.
Always remember dead rescuer is a bad rescuer. I know in the split second something happens you dont think about the consequences but staying collected and caring about your own safety first is the best course of action
@@xonx209I dive (the relatively sane and common “recreational diving” where you go down a bit, see some pretty fish and coral, hang out a bit, and come back up). There are organizations that will insure that kind of diving and include costs like medivac to a hyperbaric chamber. It’s honestly a relatively safe activity at the entry levels. Insurers, even dive specialist insurers, will not touch things like cave diving, extreme deep diving, tech diving, penetration wreck diving. Some insurance actuary looked at the cost return on something like that and shrieked NOOOOOOOOPE. I’m fascinated reading about the more extreme forms of diving, but I’ll stick to horrifying scary interesting videos. I remember a stat (my numbers may be off slightly) that around 20 people have been below 1000 feet (where depth records are set) and only 2 are still alive. There’s a saying “there are old divers, and there are bold divers, but there are no old, bold divers.” My gameplan is the “old” path. Give me 30 meters for an hour or so in the tropics and I’m good.
Those councilors in the first story were guilty of gross negligence, if not involuntary manslaughter. Who could possibly think that taking a bunch of inexperienced teenagers into a dangerous cave is ever going to end well?
The audacity of that grouphome to say she wouldve died either way, after clearly not having properly planned for the trip in a cave which, from what I understand, is illegal to enter, is a whole new level of deranged and evil. The fact that they got away with it is even more infuriating.. with this logic, any murder could defend themselves by simply saying “oh they wouldve died eventually anyway, I just hurried up the process”
With Kylie, that undiagnosed heart problem would've never been an issue had she never been put into such a stressful situation, she was genuinely terrified, and that likely caused the cardiac arrest, the counselors are criminals
What a load of crap statement. She put herself in that position, the counselors are not cardiologists nor knew her medical history. Take control of your own actions and stop blaming everyone else.
@@merlingt1 She was a minor! A kid that was already in a venerable position before walking in a infamously dangerous cave blind (which she also has no control over bc the adults around her were too cheap to get essential equipment). Kids are rarely given the power to say no, and when they do they're pressured to listen anyways. Get a grip man, be better.
@@merlingt1 the group home counselors were her guardians at that time. You're arguing that guardians and parents have no responsibility towards their wards. You're an idiot or youre literally 12.
@@merlingt1 it wasn’t even her heart condition that killed her, she fell off a ledge that not a single counselor down there with her was aware of until it was too late. her death was the result of *severe* negligence by the adults entrusted with her life and safety. maybe with just a few more flashlights and a lot less carelessness kiley would still be here today.
@@Gizziiusait's suggested to not enter meaningless holes in the ground. Nobodys exploring by the way, it's been explored already. You are going there for no reason.
@@carlpanzram7081 So, your assertion here is exploration can only happen once? Bro...that's not how it works. Exploration can be a unique process to each person. Just because it's a known cave doesn't mean you can't 'explore' it. It's a subjective term. You've never traveled somewhere (such as a city) and then explored your surroundings?
@@carlpanzram7081 "going there for no reason" ... bub. Its everyone's first time living, I literally go into every new setting learning and growing as if it is MY first time. You can use the knowledge of the past, but living solely in that lens is disabling you from growing ANYWHERE past that. Nevermind that caves, rock-climbing, natural creations, yea that's a bit more enticing than a computer to some. It doesn't have to be your cup of tea, but do not face it which such apparent ignorance.
Poor kiley.. her intuition was very strong and was telling her that something bad was going to happen even before she left for the field trip. This is why you should trust your gut. Those counselors completely failed her.
Wtf kind of group home would think that taking 20 girls deep into a dangerous cave is a good idea? I've been in a lot of homes and I bet they forced her to go. I think its horrible they have not been held accountable.
Kid falls 150 ft and its blamed on a heart condition? That is stupid. No. The safety and responsibility of those girls was the hands of those counselors, and they failed it. Not being held responsible, if i was a parent id oress charges. Not enough light resources and just why would a trip like that be planned. If students told me they were scared, id would get them out of the cave, let alone i would not plan an unsafe trip unless oroper precautions are taken, a professional is there and avoid a cabe that is deemed unsafe
Maybe I'm a crazy person but your videos of the different caving accidents led me to try caving out for myself. And I have to say thank you for giving me the idea to do that, because I had the best 2 weeks of my life on a caving trip in France. I fortunately was with very experienced cavers and no accidents happened but I still like to watch your videos to get to know the hidden dangers of caves and the importance of preparation. Thank you for the videos ^-^
A very quick scan of the comments sections on any of Scary Interestings cave videos shows that's the opposite reaction of most people😂. Most of us are never leaving the house again and won't even chance the basement after a couple of his vids.😅
The moment the humanizing backstory started my brain was like "Ooooh she is DEAD dead." May she rest in peace. Aside from the unacceptable excuses by the group home, having to share light sources in a cave expedition? That's absolute life-threatening negligence. Everyone should have one, PLUS BACKUPS. That got me incensed. Also, as someone who guided people in mountain hikes, if participants don't want to continue they should be allowed to leave, no matter what. Never take such risks as they can be life-threatening.
I'm sorry, the boys waited FOUR HOURS and the other divers waited for HALF A DAY before calling for help?! Wtf is wrong with people. I don't think they could be saved from their decisions either way but that's kind of an insane amount of time to wait in such sensitive situations
In the defense of the Palinuro group, the three men were never supposed to enter the cave. Why they entered the cave (especially without telling anyone) is unknown but the group did look for them, just not in the cave. They probably assumed they got lost somewhere in open seas which is why they took so long.
As soon as I see the word CAVE in the description my heart rate increases ….. they scare me so much!……. Incredible storytelling as always Sean……I hope you’re well xx❤xx
Caves don't scare me. What scares me is the clearances between ceiling and floor that are less than 1 & 1/2 FT. I know I'd get stuck and likely die trying to get back out. :o
Inexperienced cavers and counselors in a basically mastery level cave? If I trusted them with my daughter and this happened I would see them all put behind bars. So not cool to take teens to do something they aren't TRAINED FOR🤬🤬
@@scruffy-thejanitor Thats why group homes suck, because good and healthy people live in traditional families. History shows that "group homes" can be good when done right for people without problems. The first example which comes to mind is the proto balto slavs who lived in their fortified 300 adult comunities, had sex with anyone they liked and did effectively orgies during the night of every summer solstice, so non of the men knew which kids where theirs or not and so all the kids where just treated as children of the tibe. And everything was allright because all children where cared for by all the men, it wasnt a few problem children cared for by a few people who have no children of their own because theyre not attractive to any mate. The second example which comes to mind is piktish aristocrat warrior training, boys after puberty would be sent to live with their grandfathers (with high birthrate and short life expectency 1 grandfather could expect needing to mentor like 9 grandsons) and half a dozen grandfathers would come together to make sure no skill the youngsters need would be passed over because 1 elder doesnt know it. And again everything was fine because here where concentrated strong boys and mentored by expierienced men who cared about the survival of their family and wider culture. So yes kinship is key for proper parental care.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714hi, I’ve taken kinship classes. Your comment is based on incorrect information. “It takes a village” isn’t a saying for nothing, the best kids are raised by many people including those of familial relation. Also holy shit you seem to say some really mean things about random people are you okay.
@@2008-wii-remote What the heck is a kinship class? My information is based on what you should learn in a course of baltic filology. Ive said nothing mean to anyone.
@@2008-wii-remote The saying "It takes a village to raise a child" is because the people in the village aren't independent. They live off the tit of society and have little to offer as individuals. If however, your family have a higher iq there's less reason to depend on a village.
Sorry. She would "die anyway" because of a heart condition? Okay. Let's say she would absolutely go into cardiac arrest that day no matter what. It sure is a lot easier to perform chest compressions on someone who didn't fall 100+ feet out of reach. Chances of survival sure do go up if the patient isn't suffering massive hemorrhaging from a lacerated liver and blunt force trauma. It is much easier to get someone to the hospital for life-saving care if the paramedics don't have to hoist her up from the depths, endangering their own lives in the process. Cardiac arrest is not actually death. That's why TOD isn't called the minute a patient codes. That's why people who have been without a pulse for 40 minutes have been successfully revived. Even if her heart was a ticking time bomb, 1) there's no way you'd be able to say she definitely would have died THAT day, especially if she hadn't been made to handle the stress from creeping through a hazardous cave site deemed unsafe by experts, and 2) if they could have gotten her to a hospital and gotten her to a stable condition, she may have been able to get a heart transplant. God, fuck that guy. What a despicable cretin.
@@NickMachadoshe was a MINOR forced to go on a MANDATORY trip by adults that controlled her access to food, housing, and a bed. This was not her fault. Also, the official autopsy report listed liver damage and blunt force trauma as her cause of death, so your statement about him quoting the ME is incorrect.
I used to live just 20 minutes away from Bloomington Cave. While I’ve never been, my brother and I did find multiple different cave systems within the area (St. George). All I can say is, there are much more caves than people know about in that area, and MANY of them aren’t officially known or fully mapped. So be careful when you go
Besides confirming that I'm never going cave diving, all these stories are a warning to not hesitate on calling emergency services! It makes sense that in a panic I'd rush to try and find someone immediately, but time can go so quickly with high adrenaline
That's such an ominous name for a cave tunnel. Names like that just have a creepy feel to them. I remember that when I was a small kid I had a nightmare about an underground parking lot called "stomach". It even sounded much more... anatomical in my language. It's still just as haunting.
The first story was gross negligence. Standard safe caving procedures include: - Go with someone experienced. Prefrably who knows the cave. - Be properly equipped. This includes everyone having a proper caving headtorch which are long lasting and leave your hands free. No shitty handheld torches(flashlights) which only have a short battery life and often aren't very robust or waterproof. At least a couple of people in the group should have a back up light as well. The other two stories are tragic. Particularly since in each case two extra people died after trying to help their friend when they realised they were in difficulty.
I read in a different comment that it's 3 lights per person, not 3 lights per 15 PEOPLE. I'm astonished nobody stopped that whole trip outright. A cave system that's been blown up _twice_ for how dangerous it is.
The fact that she had a bad feeling before going on the trip says alot. Obviously the high anxiety and stress of going into the cave they shouldn't have ignore her.
#1 is a clear example of a state (or county) employee (possibly elected) making sure that a city, state, county (or privately-ran) group home doesnt get sued out of existence. Unfortunately that also probably protects a civil trial against the individual counselor/workers in some instances.
I was watching you every day late last year and i could tell the situation was getting serious. I came back last week and i cant believe how much growth you have had since i left. Good for you dude, keep it up!
Good god I was in Bloomington cave last December, the cave in the first story. This is so weird hearing the story after caving there casually. I remember going down the pit Kiley fell in, that's a pretty long and tumbling fall I must say. They installed a gate recently so no one can enter without a key. Great cave though.
You have to be a special kind of incompotent to think it was a good idea to take a bunch of troubled teenaged girls into a cave, under-equiped, and have no prior caving experience.
The home was never held accountable? I know this isn't a video about such places, but I have heard SO MANY bad things about those places! If I had a child or teen with those issues I wouldn't let them in such a place, I would keep them at home or possible move the entire family somewhere new.
"...we're going to go through 3 more terrifying cave stories." Me, with my headphones on and my blanket around me while I have a pint of ice cream in my lap:
Nice video as always. Just a minor correction (I'm italian and a scuba diver). "Immersione in parete" (immersione with two "m") is the italian term for "wall diving" (immersione = dive, parete = wall). So it's just dive where you follow a wall (usually with corals or other formations) and not a term for the wall itself.
I think I hopped into Shaun's videos when he was around the 50k subscriber mark. I knew he was going to skyrocket, but wow, 1 M already. Great job dude.
That first story is really sad. A stupid risk taking kids in a known dangerous cave, clearly they were reckless. And what a bullshit call about cardiac arrest. 150 foot fall and they blame it on a heart condition? Give me a break.
I like how you talk about the people involved. I don't know how much of it is accurate, but it puts more emphasis on the fact that these are things that happened to real people and not just characters in a story. Idk if that makes sense. The other day on tumblr I told someone they reminded me of a guy I heard about from a youtube video who was able to sense the presence of peas (the diver guy from another Scary Interesting video). I remember these people more for the way you described them as people than for the scary thing that happened to them. If I ever die from some kind of accident that youtubers are likely to put in a video, I hope they also do this to me.
Takes a special kind of evil to have someone you forced on a caving trip to fall and die and then say, "nah, she would've died from a heartattack anyway, not my fault."
With that kind of friend, your enemy would call emergency line to save you because they feel bad for you.
I genuinely can't understand parents who send their children to places like this.
When I heard that I almost audibly gasped. What an evil pos.
Fr though, especially considering heart attacks arent a death sentence but falling 100 feet definitely is. Its like saying "well ik i hit them with my car, but its not my fault they died, he was super old and would have died soon anyway"
That poor girl. People absolutely suck...
The gall of that instructor saying that girl would have died either way is unbelievable
That sounds a lot like a lawyer told him to use those exact words. That lawyer shouldn't have a license.
Ikr, that's horrifying!
@@vinny-is-here Tbf, that's probably how the lawyer got a license. Call me a cynic but many lawyers aren't really into the business of justice. They represent a client and they will do anything in the best of their abilities to get their client their get out of jail free ticket.
@@vinny-is-hereyou can never have a lawyer too Jewish
how can someone even report that and be taken seriously enough to be recorded
Place name: "Human kill grinder"
Cavers: Fuck yeah imma get in that!
I caved in a place in northern Arkansas that had a section called “the birth canal”. It actually wasn’t too bad, because the horizontal space was more than sufficient, it was just really tight on vertical space. It was a turn your head and all toes and hands to move through
@johndoe70770I shall enjoy listening to SI tell your story in a few years
@@kingjamesgorden3I’ve definitely seen some video about someone dying in that specific cave 😭
I can’t wait to explore “You Will Die Death Death Death Cave”!
"if i put you in a meat grinder..."
I went to a dual diagnosis center that was absolutely incredible. It may have saved my life. Our field trip was to the FLOWER FIELDS. We went to the safest place they could think of. I can’t even fathom why they would go CAVING in a structurally unsound space. The idea of treatment is to REDUCE or REMOVE erratic risk-taking. And we were all 18+. Taking CHILDREN there just makes no sense.
I'd probs say flower fields, picnic parks and all that would be the way.
Reducing stress and helping each other connect.
I guarantee none of those adults leading that activity were certified, had any experience, had any business being in their line of work let alone leading "troubled teens" on an outdoor activity, etc. Even WHEN adults are more qualified than these people, this crap happens. A freakin' Boy Scout leader almost got his group of kids stuck in Nutty Putty Cave before that one caver died upside down in it.
Splendid point!
"Zippy was bitten by a coral snake and none of the horrible instructors had the anti-venom in their medical kit."
Oh no wait, they stopped producing it entirely because it's not a profitable enough product. I forgot.
I’ve been Skydiving for 40+ years and find it relaxing yet get my adrenaline rush. If I enter a cave, I need to be able to stand in it, and see the exit at all times.Exploring and crawling around a stone coffin is something I don’t need in my life.
The first story is insane, and really just goes to show that so many systems in charge of caring for children are broken. It is entirely the counselor’s and the group home’s fault. There’s no way to definitely know Kiley would’ve just had a heart attack and died anyway. What if it was exacerbated by her fear of the cave? What if she had the heart attack anyway but was at the group home where medical help would’ve been available? What if she lived another 50 years before her undiagnosed problem caught up with her? People survive heart attacks all the time, but there’s no way she could’ve survived a 150 foot drop in a cave led by incompetent leaders.
Well said
All fair points. I found it disgusting that the group home carers said straight away it wasn't their fault. And I wonder why they weren't held accountable after the cause of death was given?
@@titmusspaultpaul5
"And I wonder why they weren't held accountable after the cause of death was given?"
Because it was an accident.
@@uanime1 An accident that would've never happened in a more appropriate day outing for people with those kinds of issues... beyond that, even if you do deem caving an appropriate activity it was obviously culpable due to the lack of precautions the counselors took, i.e. the lack of lighting mentioned in the video.
It being a tragic accident doesn't automatically mean no one is at fault, even if it's just partial fault.
@@uanime1 Accidents happen, but that doesn't mean that nobody is at fault for the accident. Maybe it doesn't mean you go as far as charging someone with manslaughter, but it should have at least brought about a serious investigation into their qualifications as caregivers.
If I ever discover a tight cave I'm going to nane it the "Savage Sphincter" and watch all the cavers flock to it
The entrance should be The Chocolate Starfish
Nah, the Loaf Pincher is better@@jolosarmiento24
"lucifers colon"
@@jolosarmiento24 and the hotdog flavored water would be the name of some pool inside?
A cave for the anal retentive! 😂.
one thing I’ve learned from this channel is that if a cave has a section called something like “the intestine” “the clamp” “the squeeze” “the crawl” or “the crunch” … don’t go in there.
Look at this loser... Living a long and fruitful life.
@casuallystalled wasnt even the first dude to mistake another section of the cave for the birth canal and get stuck either
The Uranus.
@casuallystalled That cave (The Nutty Putty) is definitely closed. It was Dynamited 3 feet into base and cemented closed.
"The birth canal" is another one
I am never going to get over the fact that some childcare professionals like counselors and teachers occasionally have a bright idea to bring a bunch of kids underground for recreational purposes
Reminds one time my school planned a trip hiking out to bear mountain in NY state. I didn’t go cause i was sick. It was around April, so the weather was cool and rainy. Trip itself went fine from what i heard but some didn’t like it. At ine point a cave trip was thought of, never went through. Teachers said they would not put theor students in such a dangerous environment
It's not a bad idea as long as A. It's planned well with well trained people.
B. An group appropriate difficulty is chosen.
C. Emergency response gear and a plan is taken.
And with no proper supplies, a third of the lamps, to a cave system that the government tried to blow up the entrance to TWICE because experts considered it "too dangerous"... this is so beyond dodgy and I can not believe they weren't held accountable and sued into oblivion!
Keep in mind this show gives you the worst on caving, most often with people neglecting safety.
Tempurung Cave, Malaysia in Oct 2022.
First story pissed me off. I would've gone to the media, then attempted to sue them into the ground. They kill my child and then dare to say she would've died soon anyway!? I can't believe they're still open, what gross negligence.
I dare say it's involuntary manslaughter. But they did it to a teen girl in a group home. Apparently, they don't count as humans in the eyes of authority.
@@Orquet-qj2nfit’s absolutely disgusting. I’m assuming the “undiagnosed heart problem” is long qt syndrome or something similar. I personally know someone who survived it and multiple cardiac arrests afterwords. That being said, extreme fear can trigger heart attacks in people who are susceptible to them. Same with anger and stress. They should’ve been shut down immediately.
It's typical of those places honestly.
@@spiderzvow1 I know a lot about them unfortunately. Some people who work at these places are truly good and are there for the right reasons... but they seem to be few and far between, and they don’t end up staying most of the time because of the things their coworkers and/or higher ups do or allow to happen. It traumatizes them as well. Just horrible.
These residential treatment facilities are not safe, healthy or productive for children. And a bunch of them operate out of Utah because the laws there make it easier for them to operate with low oversight, and the land allows them to be isolated from communities.
The intestine tunnel sounds terrifying. I once tried removing a Turtleneck shirt and got stuck. Was the most traumatizing experiences of my life
Can confirm.
Was the turtle.
😂
AHAHAHAH
This makes me feel so much better about one of my biggest fears being stuck inside clothing in a shop's changing room. I feel so seen
Haha!! I got my hand stuck trying to get something that dropped under my drivers seat once and stupidly went into panic mode, taking about a minute of struggling to force my hand out. Ripped my hand all up. Felt like an idiot afterwards but getting stuck freaks me out. Some of these cave stories of people getting stuck in tiny crevices barely able to breathe makes my hands sweat.
I had to look it up, and the group home that the girl was in when she died on the caving trip is called, ironically, the Integrity House.
I suspect that some of its victims would call it the Irony House
What we all need is some Tegridy
Just like dancers named 'Chastity '
Whaaaaaaat!!! Sheesh kebab. I’m never going to dive or cave or hike or climb or paraglide or bass jump or anything. Ever.
Did you read the news stories about allegations of r-p- and SA by staff?
Proud to say im a very experienced non cave diver.
I've heard most dogs refuse to enter caves, so if their senses direct them away, I decided I won't go in one either.
I'm certified in both open water and cave not-diving, it's a lovely pass time that really goes unappreciated.
😂
Don't ironically die in a cave 😢
Avid indoorsman over here
Cave name: Fuck around
Cavers: "Time to find out!"
Guilty as charged 😂
Cave: *Commits multiple murder.*
Cavers: *Silence*
dude they put padlocks and signs on some saying like YOU WILL DIE IF YOU ENTER THIS CAVE,
and cavers are like "so who's got bolt cutters?"
@@fuzzjunky Yeah, that HAS literally happened.
@@fuzzjunky ”So who’s got the *keys* .”
Fixed that for you.
Thank you for telling the story of how loved Kiley was before going into the story of her tragic death. It shows her the respect she deserved, but sadly never received from the people responsible for her safety. I hope that the telling of these stories online will help enforce accountability.
you're telling me someone working in the troubled teen industry both failed a troubled teen and was callous about her death? how shocking and totally unheard of!!
it makes me so angry what happened to Kiley, the trip shouldn't have even happened but unfortunately hardcore "field trips" like this are common in the troubled teen industry. They definitely knew it was dangerous and simply didn't care.
The TTI needs to be shut down, NOW. But they keep finding loopholes and lying, and kids get hurt. Kids get killed and are left with a lifetime of trauma, far worse off than they were before. I can’t imagine sending my kid to a place like that. I’d try everything else. But I’d never send them to an abusive and neglectful “program” masquerading as therapy. Kids don’t need to be sent away. They need help.
Remind me of camp Sleepaway. It's never been shut down. Kids kept... Vanshing
@@ellaelliott4415What kids need the most nowadays is discipline.
@@TeaCup1940says who? Oh right, says you, with your clearly immense knowledge in child psychology. Yes, we should listen to you. Okay, sarcasm aside, wtf does your comment have to do with the fact that the troubled teen industry is abusive? What are you trying to say? I genuinely have no clue.
there could be a cave called "Inescapable Passage of Certain Doom" and someone would still find some dumb reason to go explore it
Honestly, that sounds like a pretty dope place to explore
@@tjlpurdy Please write your full name so that we can recognize you when you get featured in one of these videos.
@@KMon1111IND If the cave didn't kill me my wife would 😅
Ofc, I wanna be the first to escape it 🤣
“I’m gonna solo this. Don’t bother trying to reach me.”
I don't think we should be trusting kids to people who weasel out of responsibility like that.
We should not. Being able to recognise your own failiur is the first step to being able to do better.
Sadly most of those “troubled youth” programs are actually terrible and abusive towards the children. They constantly skirt (or try to skirt) responsibility and have been known to use anything to make the children comply with their demands. Sending kids away to live with strangers due to drug problems is in my opinion a terrible idea
I had several friends in HS who ended up in group homes and I can say I am absolutely NOT surprised. The leaders there are grossly corrupt and disgusting. They often don't care about the kids in the slightest. A friend had one of the councilors tell her to end herself. This story enrages me. Kiley deserved justice, and that man deserved prison.
@@OpossumOnTheMoon If a child of mine had very serious behavioural problems I would then take the child with me to our ancestral home in the highlands where she would live as we have for centuries (but with electricity, no electronics just light bulbs). Modern society really overstimulates people, spending many months with only as much stimulation as nature provides would reset ones expectations to what humans have evoled for. Such is the plan.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ancestral home: "No.... Disowned."
Two different groups of experts in two different decades said it was too dangerous and people thought it was a great place for a school trip....wild.
Callous people collecting a paycheck because they "deal with troubled youth" is never a recipe for love and success
A caving expedition for these women to begin with wasn't a good idea. Way too many participants with room for error especially considering these are women with problems in their personal lives too. Aggravating that the home never got charged or took responsibility.
0:08 "If you ever happen to be caving..." - I assure you I will not
Though the same thing. As if... 😂😂
"Hey I found this underwater cave called 'Murder Hole with a 100% Mortality Rate' wanna check it out with me?"
"Hell yeah, sounds fun"
"We'll just take a peek. I mean, what's the worst thing that can happen. Ha ha ha."
😳☠️
😂 sad but true
"and if we somehow manage to survive, we will be rewarded with the glorious sight of plain rock walls!"
Young inexperienced teenage girls knew it wasnt safe but CAREGIVER ADULTS didnt. So needless and ridiculous!
The adults probably knew it wasn’t safe. The troubled teen industry endangers and abuses children all the time unfortunately.
Those people should be in jail.
please never change the intro... it only becomes more special over time.
I agree!
I agree ❤💯💥👏
I agree, it's iconic.
Iconic lol
What if the new intro is better?
When "The Song" starts, thats when you know shits about to hit the fan. Love these videos!
I really enjoy his editing. Everything from the simple silhouette frames to the sound design is on point. It’s not too much and it looks very clean.
"Doonk doo doo doo... Doonk doo doo doo..."
You already know the subject of this channel and you see the title before you hear the song...use your brain, that's why lucifer gifted man with an intellect
@@evilswissyoeehh you’re so edgy.. 🤡
Can you name the song?
It always shocks me that when someone goes missing while diving, instead of leaving the cave and calling emergency services IMMEDIATELY, people try to search for themselves - which only causes more lives to be lost.
7:05 *girl falls down 100 foot chasm that was just created, buries under rock and dies shortly after*
-"must have been a undiagnosed heart problem"
As of this day, it's confirm of just only heart attack and not the fall, lead the group not to be blame or held responsible. (at least was told from one of them)
@@KoroxasHeart And that's a complete bunch of bullshit if I ever heard it ✋️💯💩
Some real Skyrim NPC humans around.
@@KoroxasHeart It says they determined the death to be liver damage and blunt force trauma, so not really
That not what her autopsy report says. @@KoroxasHeart
'The intestine' sounds concerning
I want to fill it woth something other than divers 😏
I have crippling depression
Especially if you've heard of "vore" (gross)
God I love vore
Yeah because it swallows them in and spits them out on the other side. And apparently that's if your lucky and really careful.
That Bloomington map tho 😮😊 looks like a system in works..
I love how consistent the graphic style of these videos has become.
Ikr! It’s so comforting
One thing I’ve learned from watching Dive Talk, is that doing impromptu cave dives is not a good idea.
When I watch Dive Talk I find myself heavily relating to Woody’s urge to pause the video every five seconds, thinking “why would they do that???” ._.
Cavern and wrecks yes, tech diving and caves are a no-go for me. Once we get into ceilings, imaginary or real, I’m out 😗✌🏽 I already get bored doing 3 min safety stops-you want me to do 2 hours of deco? Nah
Scary Interesting: describes a cave/dive site that the locals say is cursed, and many have died there. Woody: “I wanna go dive there”
@@QilleWolf Woody would have the dive times and gas consumption meticulously planned too
I love Woody so much. I hate hes always getting so much flak for being gay, but he'll always be awesome in my book.
@@whiteyfisk9769 gay? I thought he mentioned he had a wife and kids. maybe I'm misremembering
Age 12. Late 80s. I refused to go forward on a school trip climbing the Poconos. I faked an asthma attack because I was so scared of the weather climbing this mountain. Knee dip snow. Blizzard. A teacher took me back with irritation. You're THAT kid. My class was missing for 18 hours; everyone was rescued, so it was never considered a big deal. But I watched my friends parents for that 18 hours. It was a catastrophe with a miraculous ending. They did that trip again for 4 years until it was deemed highly unsafe.
I mean think about the name INTESTINE is a long constricted internal organ.
Divers: let's see what this is about
Wyte people rite?? Lmfao
Or nutty putter birth canal
Divers: *Make corpse noises*
@@whiteyfisk9769 I never said a color tho lol
@@Kxng_vybez lmao you aint got too. Theys the only ones dumb enough to do something like caving.
I sleep soundly at night knowing I will never put myself in any of these situations
For me, the height of excitement is lying in bed, trying to avoid spilling my hot coffee.
@@rdred8693 Friend here...
rdred8693 passed away from third degree burns an hour after posting.
Rest in pepperonis dude.
@@rdred8693coffee in bed?
Calm down wild child! 😂❤
You know your house can put you in that situation, while you're sleeping your house collapses on you, you survive but you're in a tight space and you have to crawl if possible and you may not make it.
Thats Savage @@rdred8693
7:07 that despicable. What a gutless thing to say.
I mean people literally allow the president to weasel out of taking any responsibility.
Why would we hold average people to account?
I agree the president says anything that falls out of his mouth, mostly incoherent babble
@@rich3154the same is true about both our last president and the current one.
Always remember dead rescuer is a bad rescuer. I know in the split second something happens you dont think about the consequences but staying collected and caring about your own safety first is the best course of action
I was always taught that the first priority when helping was to not increase the cassualty list.
put on your own oxygen mask before helping others
Signs: “Turn back if you value your lives! Only death lies ahead!”
Cavers: “I choose not to understand these signs.”
If cavers buy life insurance, their families would be rich.
Cavers:"YOLO!" and all jump in, feeling like champs..
@@xonx209I dive (the relatively sane and common “recreational diving” where you go down a bit, see some pretty fish and coral, hang out a bit, and come back up). There are organizations that will insure that kind of diving and include costs like medivac to a hyperbaric chamber. It’s honestly a relatively safe activity at the entry levels.
Insurers, even dive specialist insurers, will not touch things like cave diving, extreme deep diving, tech diving, penetration wreck diving.
Some insurance actuary looked at the cost return on something like that and shrieked NOOOOOOOOPE.
I’m fascinated reading about the more extreme forms of diving, but I’ll stick to horrifying scary interesting videos.
I remember a stat (my numbers may be off slightly) that around 20 people have been below 1000 feet (where depth records are set) and only 2 are still alive.
There’s a saying “there are old divers, and there are bold divers, but there are no old, bold divers.”
My gameplan is the “old” path. Give me 30 meters for an hour or so in the tropics and I’m good.
@@xonx209 insurance companies will never pay a dime if you die doing such an extreme sport.
“This sign can’t stop me because I can’t read!”
That "group home" should have been held responsible for Kiley's death. Absolutely crazy!
Here I am in my own cave, watching a video about caves, learning about how I won't be going into any other caves ever.
My couch pillow blanket cave has caved in on me a couple times ... I survived each one with a couple bruises 😂😂
Ditto
Nailed it.
The blanket over my head is my cave.
😂 Same
15 inexperienced people taken on unguided cave tour…great idea.
It's about the intelligence level of group homes.
@@spiderzvow1Why even say that about a dead person
When I was in Girl Scouts we did a popular cave system in NH. Polar caves like everyone went there it was a park.
@@KathleenMahaney the difference is a park is regulated and maintained. these caves were literally condemned lol
Those councilors in the first story were guilty of gross negligence, if not involuntary manslaughter. Who could possibly think that taking a bunch of inexperienced teenagers into a dangerous cave is ever going to end well?
The audacity of that grouphome to say she wouldve died either way, after clearly not having properly planned for the trip in a cave which, from what I understand, is illegal to enter, is a whole new level of deranged and evil. The fact that they got away with it is even more infuriating.. with this logic, any murder could defend themselves by simply saying “oh they wouldve died eventually anyway, I just hurried up the process”
if she was scresming then i can guess the heart problem didnt happen before the fall
That group home sounds shady and should have been investigated for anything criminal going on.
With Kylie, that undiagnosed heart problem would've never been an issue had she never been put into such a stressful situation, she was genuinely terrified, and that likely caused the cardiac arrest, the counselors are criminals
What a load of crap statement. She put herself in that position, the counselors are not cardiologists nor knew her medical history. Take control of your own actions and stop blaming everyone else.
@@merlingt1 She was a minor! A kid that was already in a venerable position before walking in a infamously dangerous cave blind (which she also has no control over bc the adults around her were too cheap to get essential equipment). Kids are rarely given the power to say no, and when they do they're pressured to listen anyways. Get a grip man, be better.
@@merlingt1 the group home counselors were her guardians at that time. You're arguing that guardians and parents have no responsibility towards their wards.
You're an idiot or youre literally 12.
@@merlingt1paedo logic alert
@@merlingt1 it wasn’t even her heart condition that killed her, she fell off a ledge that not a single counselor down there with her was aware of until it was too late. her death was the result of *severe* negligence by the adults entrusted with her life and safety. maybe with just a few more flashlights and a lot less carelessness kiley would still be here today.
Even for 2002, they really thought that only those few 🔦 would be sufficient for a group of 15?!!! Everyone should have one, plus extra batteries!
its suggested to bring around 3 flashlights for cave exploring per person.
@@Gizziiusa thanks for that information ☺️
@@Gizziiusait's suggested to not enter meaningless holes in the ground.
Nobodys exploring by the way, it's been explored already. You are going there for no reason.
@@carlpanzram7081 So, your assertion here is exploration can only happen once? Bro...that's not how it works. Exploration can be a unique process to each person. Just because it's a known cave doesn't mean you can't 'explore' it. It's a subjective term.
You've never traveled somewhere (such as a city) and then explored your surroundings?
@@carlpanzram7081 "going there for no reason" ... bub. Its everyone's first time living, I literally go into every new setting learning and growing as if it is MY first time. You can use the knowledge of the past, but living solely in that lens is disabling you from growing ANYWHERE past that.
Nevermind that caves, rock-climbing, natural creations, yea that's a bit more enticing than a computer to some. It doesn't have to be your cup of tea, but do not face it which such apparent ignorance.
Poor kiley.. her intuition was very strong and was telling her that something bad was going to happen even before she left for the field trip. This is why you should trust your gut. Those counselors completely failed her.
there needs to be a petition to shut that group home down and hold every counselor accountable. they were all criminally negligent
I would not proceed to cave through any feature known as "The Intestine" for fear of becoming geological constipation.
The music you add in when the story turns from normal to sinister is great. Adds a lot
I wish he'd list the f'ing music somewhere.
@@Raycloud The spooky music is called A Hand in the Dark
@@Dustfired No it isn't there is another theme that plays in the video for the first story
@@Raycloud Emmit Fenn - Creep
@@Auraesova No
No other youtube channel gets me so excited when a video drops. You make great videos and i am here for it. I hope you have an amazing weekend.
Did this happen in an alternate universe where flashlights are a scarce commodity that you can't just get for a couple bucks at any store?
Survival horror game?
Candle light works too 🕯️
Wtf kind of group home would think that taking 20 girls deep into a dangerous cave is a good idea? I've been in a lot of homes and I bet they forced her to go. I think its horrible they have not been held accountable.
In my 50 years on this earth, I have never been cave exploring. I plan to keep it that way.
Is trump hurt
Kid falls 150 ft and its blamed on a heart condition? That is stupid. No. The safety and responsibility of those girls was the hands of those counselors, and they failed it. Not being held responsible, if i was a parent id oress charges. Not enough light resources and just why would a trip like that be planned.
If students told me they were scared, id would get them out of the cave, let alone i would not plan an unsafe trip unless oroper precautions are taken, a professional is there and avoid a cabe that is deemed unsafe
Maybe I'm a crazy person but your videos of the different caving accidents led me to try caving out for myself. And I have to say thank you for giving me the idea to do that, because I had the best 2 weeks of my life on a caving trip in France. I fortunately was with very experienced cavers and no accidents happened but I still like to watch your videos to get to know the hidden dangers of caves and the importance of preparation.
Thank you for the videos ^-^
Stay safe out there!
He needs more content anyway
@@mydroidid no you didn't 😂😂😂
"Maybe I'm a crazy person..."
Yes, yes you are.
A very quick scan of the comments sections on any of Scary Interestings cave videos shows that's the opposite reaction of most people😂. Most of us are never leaving the house again and won't even chance the basement after a couple of his vids.😅
Divers + caving = NOPE
Divers + Caving + Skydiving = Hell No lol 😂
@@emmareilly5141 they were walking.
Divers + caving + some body part named cabe = fuck around and find out XD
The moment the humanizing backstory started my brain was like "Ooooh she is DEAD dead."
May she rest in peace. Aside from the unacceptable excuses by the group home, having to share light sources in a cave expedition? That's absolute life-threatening negligence. Everyone should have one, PLUS BACKUPS. That got me incensed. Also, as someone who guided people in mountain hikes, if participants don't want to continue they should be allowed to leave, no matter what. Never take such risks as they can be life-threatening.
I'm sorry, the boys waited FOUR HOURS and the other divers waited for HALF A DAY before calling for help?! Wtf is wrong with people. I don't think they could be saved from their decisions either way but that's kind of an insane amount of time to wait in such sensitive situations
Ego
In the defense of the Palinuro group, the three men were never supposed to enter the cave. Why they entered the cave (especially without telling anyone) is unknown but the group did look for them, just not in the cave. They probably assumed they got lost somewhere in open seas which is why they took so long.
As soon as I see the word CAVE in the description my heart rate increases ….. they scare me so much!……. Incredible storytelling as always Sean……I hope you’re well xx❤xx
Caves don't scare me. What scares me is the clearances between ceiling and floor that are less than 1 & 1/2 FT. I know I'd get stuck and likely die trying to get back out. :o
@@windowshasyou5561 And when the difference is 50 meters and you can fall to your death?
Same. And the divers!
Inexperienced cavers and counselors in a basically mastery level cave?
If I trusted them with my daughter and this happened I would see them all put behind bars. So not cool to take teens to do something they aren't TRAINED FOR🤬🤬
I'm sure many of the girls lacked safe family homes and people to care for them, so the counselors felt less pressure to do the right thing.
@@scruffy-thejanitor Thats why group homes suck, because good and healthy people live in traditional families.
History shows that "group homes" can be good when done right for people without problems. The first example which comes to mind is the proto balto slavs who lived in their fortified 300 adult comunities, had sex with anyone they liked and did effectively orgies during the night of every summer solstice, so non of the men knew which kids where theirs or not and so all the kids where just treated as children of the tibe. And everything was allright because all children where cared for by all the men, it wasnt a few problem children cared for by a few people who have no children of their own because theyre not attractive to any mate. The second example which comes to mind is piktish aristocrat warrior training, boys after puberty would be sent to live with their grandfathers (with high birthrate and short life expectency 1 grandfather could expect needing to mentor like 9 grandsons) and half a dozen grandfathers would come together to make sure no skill the youngsters need would be passed over because 1 elder doesnt know it. And again everything was fine because here where concentrated strong boys and mentored by expierienced men who cared about the survival of their family and wider culture.
So yes kinship is key for proper parental care.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714hi, I’ve taken kinship classes. Your comment is based on incorrect information. “It takes a village” isn’t a saying for nothing, the best kids are raised by many people including those of familial relation. Also holy shit you seem to say some really mean things about random people are you okay.
@@2008-wii-remote What the heck is a kinship class?
My information is based on what you should learn in a course of baltic filology.
Ive said nothing mean to anyone.
@@2008-wii-remote The saying "It takes a village to raise a child" is because the people in the village aren't independent. They live off the tit of society and have little to offer as individuals. If however, your family have a higher iq there's less reason to depend on a village.
I love when the caves have been mapped and you can show them.
Sorry. She would "die anyway" because of a heart condition? Okay. Let's say she would absolutely go into cardiac arrest that day no matter what. It sure is a lot easier to perform chest compressions on someone who didn't fall 100+ feet out of reach. Chances of survival sure do go up if the patient isn't suffering massive hemorrhaging from a lacerated liver and blunt force trauma. It is much easier to get someone to the hospital for life-saving care if the paramedics don't have to hoist her up from the depths, endangering their own lives in the process.
Cardiac arrest is not actually death. That's why TOD isn't called the minute a patient codes. That's why people who have been without a pulse for 40 minutes have been successfully revived. Even if her heart was a ticking time bomb, 1) there's no way you'd be able to say she definitely would have died THAT day, especially if she hadn't been made to handle the stress from creeping through a hazardous cave site deemed unsafe by experts, and 2) if they could have gotten her to a hospital and gotten her to a stable condition, she may have been able to get a heart transplant.
God, fuck that guy. What a despicable cretin.
He quoted the medical examiner. You think you know more than the than person that did the autopsy? Its the girls fault for going into the cave.
@@NickMachado she was a minor who was forced to go? i don't know if you're heartless or brainless
@@NickMachadoshe was a MINOR forced to go on a MANDATORY trip by adults that controlled her access to food, housing, and a bed. This was not her fault. Also, the official autopsy report listed liver damage and blunt force trauma as her cause of death, so your statement about him quoting the ME is incorrect.
He never got arrested. It worked
@@falconeshield .... that's your takeaway? Okay, bub.
Everyone: this is an extremely dangerous ca-
Cavers: Hell yeah bring it on baby
I used to live just 20 minutes away from Bloomington Cave. While I’ve never been, my brother and I did find multiple different cave systems within the area (St. George). All I can say is, there are much more caves than people know about in that area, and MANY of them aren’t officially known or fully mapped. So be careful when you go
Man the music you use is so good at keeping me on edge here
Besides confirming that I'm never going cave diving, all these stories are a warning to not hesitate on calling emergency services! It makes sense that in a panic I'd rush to try and find someone immediately, but time can go so quickly with high adrenaline
It’s very fortunate that Meagan let go of Kylie’s hand when she did otherwise she probably would have gone over the edge too.
I’d feel so guilty I’d have wished I’d fallen too
That’s an awful thing to say, it’s not her fault at all and she probably would have been pulled over aswell
@@maisies515Feeling guilt and being guilty are two different things. Meagan will likely carry an unearned burden for years.
Yeah, I can read that headline right now. Two girls die in a cave incident over undiagnosed heart problems.
Honestly I feel like she pushed that girl cause why the hell would you let go of her hand and then somehow right after she falls
I like that transition to your classic creepy cave tragedy music once they’re in the cave.
That's such an ominous name for a cave tunnel. Names like that just have a creepy feel to them. I remember that when I was a small kid I had a nightmare about an underground parking lot called "stomach". It even sounded much more... anatomical in my language. It's still just as haunting.
The first story was gross negligence. Standard safe caving procedures include:
- Go with someone experienced. Prefrably who knows the cave.
- Be properly equipped. This includes everyone having a proper caving headtorch which are long lasting and leave your hands free. No shitty handheld torches(flashlights) which only have a short battery life and often aren't very robust or waterproof. At least a couple of people in the group should have a back up light as well.
The other two stories are tragic. Particularly since in each case two extra people died after trying to help their friend when they realised they were in difficulty.
I read in a different comment that it's 3 lights per person, not 3 lights per 15 PEOPLE. I'm astonished nobody stopped that whole trip outright. A cave system that's been blown up _twice_ for how dangerous it is.
@@kentario1610 It was 8 lights per 15 people.
We literally let children grow up watching Logan Paul videos.
I think the ship sailed on gross negligence long ago friend.
Your channel is my go to morning wake up choice. Don't know why but you make morning terror somehow a good wake up method.lol
"Cave diving stories are getting hard to come by" As much as I love your episodes, it's also probably a good thing.
The fact that she had a bad feeling before going on the trip says alot. Obviously the high anxiety and stress of going into the cave they shouldn't have ignore her.
My therapist keeps telling me the earth does NOT want to eat people, but, this really puts a damper on that.
The earth does not want to eat people. People keep climbing into its mouth. Like when a fly flies into your mouth
Its disrespect for nature that kills them, not mother earth.
#1 is a clear example of a state (or county) employee (possibly elected) making sure that a
city, state, county (or privately-ran) group home doesnt get sued out of existence. Unfortunately that also probably protects a civil trial against the individual counselor/workers in some instances.
That "counselor" needs the 'grelod the kind' experience.
I had to google what this meant, but you're totally right
"...they never wants you, they never loved you! Now-" ZUCK! (Arrow in the head) "Ahhhhhhhh!"
LMFAOO never thought I’d see a Skyrim reference here
@@davhot4107Hmm. Sounds like he had an “undiagnosed heart condition”.
The second story is chilling..one after the other they jumped in, and swept to the death..so very sad. RIP.
I was watching you every day late last year and i could tell the situation was getting serious. I came back last week and i cant believe how much growth you have had since i left. Good for you dude, keep it up!
Great getting a new upload as I binge your older content, love it all Scary Interesting!
Stop cave diving in places named after internal body parts.
Imagine diving into a cave called the colon😂
@@the5THofNOV😅😅
@@the5THofNOVSure didn't stop John Jones from entering Nutty Putty Cave's "Birth Canal" (and he even took the wrong way).
I mean I would go into a lung. Large, spacious, full of air. Only one way in or out so you can't get turned around.
Good god I was in Bloomington cave last December, the cave in the first story. This is so weird hearing the story after caving there casually. I remember going down the pit Kiley fell in, that's a pretty long and tumbling fall I must say. They installed a gate recently so no one can enter without a key. Great cave though.
It's safe to say you will NEVER have to rescue me from a cave. Just watching makes my heart race just thinking about being stuck down there.
You have to be a special kind of incompotent to think it was a good idea to take a bunch of troubled teenaged girls into a cave, under-equiped, and have no prior caving experience.
The home was never held accountable? I know this isn't a video about such places, but I have heard SO MANY bad things about those places! If I had a child or teen with those issues I wouldn't let them in such a place, I would keep them at home or possible move the entire family somewhere new.
@@Cottonball-gz4cr NOT IN IRELAND thank God.
"...we're going to go through 3 more terrifying cave stories."
Me, with my headphones on and my blanket around me while I have a pint of ice cream in my lap:
Congratulations on 1,000,000 I’ve been with you since 100 and seen you grow so fast!
"Cave where everyone dies no matter what"
Cavers: That sounds like a fantastic place to go
0:26 Now I read Scary Intestine… I should go to bed.
Nice video as always. Just a minor correction (I'm italian and a scuba diver). "Immersione in parete" (immersione with two "m") is the italian term for "wall diving" (immersione = dive, parete = wall). So it's just dive where you follow a wall (usually with corals or other formations) and not a term for the wall itself.
Love these videos, super scary but in an intriguing way somehow
The warning at the start of the video: "Don't wind up in my videos." lol
Cave divers would explore a place called "Infant crusher mega suffering 9000 evil" and not think twice about it
Cave Name: MURDER HOLE
Level: Morgue
Lives Claimed: All of Them
Cavers: I can’t wait to get in there! Cmon friends and family!
Who in the hell comes up with the idea that we should take a bunch of troubled girls into a dangerous cave system?
That group home was 100% responsible for that poor girl's early death. Rip sweet girl.
Crazy how these people were calm for so long when people went missing and waited hours before contacting help.
I think I hopped into Shaun's videos when he was around the 50k subscriber mark. I knew he was going to skyrocket, but wow, 1 M already. Great job dude.
Congrats on 1.4m you deserve it!!
Congrats on not understanding how decimals work.
1.04M - still awesome!
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That first story is really sad. A stupid risk taking kids in a known dangerous cave, clearly they were reckless. And what a bullshit call about cardiac arrest. 150 foot fall and they blame it on a heart condition? Give me a break.
4:32 you know things are going underground/underwater when this royalty free stock music starts playing
I like how you talk about the people involved. I don't know how much of it is accurate, but it puts more emphasis on the fact that these are things that happened to real people and not just characters in a story. Idk if that makes sense.
The other day on tumblr I told someone they reminded me of a guy I heard about from a youtube video who was able to sense the presence of peas (the diver guy from another Scary Interesting video). I remember these people more for the way you described them as people than for the scary thing that happened to them. If I ever die from some kind of accident that youtubers are likely to put in a video, I hope they also do this to me.
The first story is plain murder. Manslaughter at the very least. Unbelievable that nobody was held accountable.
Don’t go in the cave.
But she’s sooo pretty lol
Great advice
But the sign said "free frappés, 3.5 gpas, and leggings"
😂😂😂