I've always been captivated by Spore because of its evolution process. Years later, I found the TH-camr Primer and his videos documenting AI simulations, which intrigued me. And now here I am watching a video game project with both of those things combined. I'm always curious about what a random evolution simulation would do. Definitely subbing!!
I was hoping that a video like this was made! I always adored the other evolution history videos that you made for the sapling, and seeing a series dedicated to that part of the game makes me so happy. I don't have a PC, so youtube content is the only way that I can look into stellar games like this. Thank you so much! I hope the series continues!
this is awesome! The way I got here was I had the idea "I wonder if we could use AI and video game engines to simulate evolution" and I'm extremely pleased to see that people way smarter than me with more experience have done exactly that! I simply typed into TH-cam "has anyone simulated evolution on a computer" and your video came up awesome. I do kind of feel bad that I'm not the first person to come up with the idea... but I want to say to you "geniuses think alike" lol
Haha good to hear the algorithm thought of me there ;). Also, don't let the fact that other people already tried it to discourage you from giving your own spin on it... and if you do and want people to spread the word, let me know.
@@radar9643There’s a fish called the California grunion where they come onto the beach in mass to lay their eggs. Granted they aren’t “preprogrammed’ to die afterward but some get picked off through predation, regulated human collection or they just strand themselves to far up the beach.
This series is what got me to buy the game. It's an amazing concept and very fun. Please, do more. And some guides. Getting creatures to evolve in all different kinds of ways is difficult for me right now. They turn out mostly the same for me. 😆
I have an idea make a microscopic stage to get the true feeling of evolution you wont be able to see them but over the years you will see them slowly grow
Hey AI zone, thanks for your suggestion! Any ideas on how that would work in terms of computer power? I guess the only way would be to fake things, to prevent everyone's machine catching fire?
I have just bought your game a couple of hours ago and I have instantly loved it. Keep up the good work and I hope you continue to work on this game for years to come.
Extinction events would be a cool addition to the game. There is a random chance (say 0.1% per in game year, probably longer) that some natural disaster would happen, like an asteroid strike or sudden warming or cooling of the climate. For long evolution simulations it would be interesting to see how life evolves to these sudden changes, and what species don't make it Another addition could be different types of body plans. There would be the basic, fleshy one, but you could also have insect-like body plans with exoskeletons, or shelled creatures. Each type of body would have different types of unique legs, eyes, etc. Yet another idea! Continental drift (that one's pretty self-explanatory)
Hey Jacob, without making promises, all 3 (random events/disasters, other body plans, slowly change what land masses are connected) are cool ideas if you ask me :)
I've been playing the game for a while now and I was wondering if eventually you would add pre-sets for planet creation. Like some pre-made environments for playing around with, as i've found it hard to make an environment suited for what I want to do.
This has been in my “Watch Later” for a long while. I’ve been scrolling old channels to see what’s up, saw this, clicked on “Most Popular”, and I’m now here. 5:02 What a beautiful and calming voice. This was eleven months ago, when I’m done… I’ll check out your latest video! You’ve great work here! Speaking of, there’s no way you’ve not heard of Rain World, right?
@@TheSapling hey didnt know how else to get this answer,just recently bought the game bc of this series, but The algeas evovlving/mutating into land plants in this video does that come naturally in the game or do i need to make my first plant?
I'm so sad i missed the notification fir this episode!! But thus is exciting, mh favorite aspect of speculative evolution is seeing the species actually get to evolve! Very similar energy to the series by Biblaridion here on youtube
this game has soooo much potential - i was just wondering whether adaptations for like algae and plants came from how easily they would be able to access light and carbon dioxide levels, because i feel like a lot of evolution simulation games dont touch on the effects of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere etc and how that effects the way they evolve
@@Hastyviper457 I believe it's like $20 on steam. Definitely does have its issues, for example it runs pretty damn poorly, but again I had a blast with it
I didn't know plants could evolve from algae in the game ! Quick, open the Sapling ! XD Awesome video as always, I would love to see this series go beyond the three episodes you're aiming for.
@@TheSapling To make it feels more like the real evolution you would need to add some kind of moss / grass thing... And I think it would be really hard to keep the feeling of the game. As much as I love realism and evolution, I think your work might be better this way.
I think the two most essential and urgent expansions for this great game are 1. mating, courtship, gene crossing > Integration of biological fitness into the game, sexual selection, mate attraction (antlers, plumage, songs, dances). 2. complete reconstruction of the plant world > Radial symmetry and randomly proliferating branches instead of "glued on body parts". > Clearly more diverse appearances (especially the distinction between ground plants and trees, but later possibly also fungi, ferns, grasses) > Possible approach: First add plant parts, which are whole agglomerations of branches and leaves (treetops), instead of individual leaves or fruits, also add radial symmetry. Later on, more, such as subdivision into trunk and crown in trees (perhaps automatically, like head, trunk and tail in the present animals) and, for example, that fruits grow randomly in predetermined areas instead of on individual stolons, and perhaps ade more size variation.
This will be incredibly difficult due to the dependancies that climbing animals have on specific tree placements , worse case this would also increase cpu usage making the game run even worse than it already does, i do agree there should be an option for mating though i do think this game can function without gene crossing(it may cause so many unwanted bugs)definitly more diverse appearances could be done and i think he should heavily focus on making them more alien especially some that have the same effectiveness value like mouths that do the same job but look a tad different and are accessed in different tree sections i think that woudlwork amazing
@@obiomajronyekwere4469 I prefer earth like creatures, like now, not too alien. Also, because we do not know any alien life, these bodyparts would be random.
Hey O, thanks for your writing down your suggestions! Fully agreed that these would be cool and that it's kind of weird that the game has got all of these features but not mating ;). Without making promises, courtship display in particular is an idea I'm very excited about... although I haven't figured out how it should work ;)
Idea: maybe something like a fungus that grows on animal corpses, or maybe also tree corpses(would require implementing tree corpses/dead wood), deriving nutritional value from the corpse in exchange for only being able to do that where the corpse it's specialized to feed off of is present. Or something like a parasitic plant that feeds off of a larger plant? I could imagine an organism that possesses multiple 'root' equivalent systems, so that it can do things like grow more rapidly/reproduce more when feeding off of another plant/dead wood, then it would either die out or root on its own. I'm also just thinking of this exact simulation, but is there any way for an animal with eyes to tell a corpse and a red plant apart from eachother? Or is it all the same 'move towards red' programming that can produce both types of end destination, regardless of what they have mouths for, once they develop eyes.
Hey Graeme, thanks for writing down your ideas! Without making promises, your thinking of an organism that blurs the boundaries between plants and fungi is refreshing for me :). And yes, there is also a possible instinct 'if you see meat, go towards it', although I didn't see it during this run.
I'd be curious to see this game partner with the "Evolve" game (a spore spinoff, open source game project). You guys are going in the same direction, but evolve is starting out with cells, whilst you are working on larger life. Would be cool to see a collaboration
I have an idea , make the meat rot after a while then it will disappear after a longer time , then make a new digestive system/ mouth which allows carnivorous beings to eat this rotten meat , this will make a new kind of animals , scavengers!
Hey Clyroo, thanks for this idea, it's indeed something I like, but what I haven't solved yet is how to prevent meat laying litterally everywhere if the meat decays slower. Any ideas there would be appreciated!
@@TheSapling Yes, Exactly! I don’t know how difficult it would be to do this, but maybe could you try lowering them a little bit into the ground and slightly adjusting the rotation to more closely match the steepness of the terrain?
True! The problem for fungi I haven't been really able to solve is that they are mostly underground/invisible, and playtesting shows invisible mechanisms quickly get players confused and annoyed.
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Please continue with series like this, because i don't have a pc so this is the only way i can see how the evolution works in this game
Me too, man... ;^;
Me too (╯︵╰,)
Same
I agree, I have a PC, but it can't handle larger simulations, so I'd like to see this series continue as well 😅
Skill issue
I bought this game a few days ago and I can’t stop playing ;_; this is one of the most funnest games I’ve played
the best part is when your creatures overpopulate before predators evolve and inevitably crash your pc
ik im late but how much does it cost?
@@canadianmagpie2053 yeah
@@ImpossiblySimple 10 bucks
@@zareverso340 its expensive for where the game is right now ill probably wait
Ecosystem/evolution simulators like this are my favorite kinds of games! I'll definitely be buying this once I get my PC back
I've always been captivated by Spore because of its evolution process. Years later, I found the TH-camr Primer and his videos documenting AI simulations, which intrigued me. And now here I am watching a video game project with both of those things combined.
I'm always curious about what a random evolution simulation would do. Definitely subbing!!
I was hoping that a video like this was made! I always adored the other evolution history videos that you made for the sapling, and seeing a series dedicated to that part of the game makes me so happy. I don't have a PC, so youtube content is the only way that I can look into stellar games like this. Thank you so much! I hope the series continues!
this is awesome! The way I got here was I had the idea "I wonder if we could use AI and video game engines to simulate evolution" and I'm extremely pleased to see that people way smarter than me with more experience have done exactly that!
I simply typed into TH-cam "has anyone simulated evolution on a computer" and your video came up
awesome.
I do kind of feel bad that I'm not the first person to come up with the idea... but I want to say to you "geniuses think alike" lol
Haha good to hear the algorithm thought of me there ;). Also, don't let the fact that other people already tried it to discourage you from giving your own spin on it... and if you do and want people to spread the word, let me know.
The idea of an early fish species going onto land solely to lay its eggs, killing itself in the process is actually kinda cool.
I feel like it already exists in real life
@@radar9643 if you think about it, it's very closely related to earlier fish, where they'd lay their eggs on land and return to water
1:1 pls
@@radar9643There’s a fish called the California grunion where they come onto the beach in mass to lay their eggs. Granted they aren’t “preprogrammed’ to die afterward but some get picked off through predation, regulated human collection or they just strand themselves to far up the beach.
Loving the new series bro and I got the game on steam like a yr ago, cant wait for ep 2 :)
This series is what got me to buy the game. It's an amazing concept and very fun. Please, do more. And some guides. Getting creatures to evolve in all different kinds of ways is difficult for me right now. They turn out mostly the same for me. 😆
Hey John, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!
Great concept for your new series. And you make a great job at taking us through the evolutionary changes.
Thanks AlejoLab :)
This is basically my dream game. Thanks for making such a great project!
Thank you for making the spiritual successor of Spores.
So cool! Edit; can’t wait for the transition to land or possibly the sky
I have an idea make a microscopic stage to get the true feeling of evolution you wont be able to see them but over the years you will see them slowly grow
Hey AI zone, thanks for your suggestion! Any ideas on how that would work in terms of computer power? I guess the only way would be to fake things, to prevent everyone's machine catching fire?
I’m glad computers are growing in performance quality so quickly. Means within ten years hopefully we’ll see things evolve from cells in the sapling!
been a fan from the beginning and with this, 1000% gonna stay one♥
I have just bought your game a couple of hours ago and I have instantly loved it.
Keep up the good work and I hope you continue to work on this game for years to come.
bro you made this game?!?!?!?! what the HELL?!
you are an incredible human being!!! this is so cool!
Beautiful design of plants and animals. Also good accompanying text and clear explanation. Thank you very much.
I love these sorts of "alien biology" videos!
@@CoruscationsOfIneptitude yeah that’s the word I was forgetting lol.
This is a masterpiece and cant wait to see part 2
omg this is the coolest evolution sim I’ve seen. I need to check out more of this channel
Extinction events would be a cool addition to the game. There is a random chance (say 0.1% per in game year, probably longer) that some natural disaster would happen, like an asteroid strike or sudden warming or cooling of the climate. For long evolution simulations it would be interesting to see how life evolves to these sudden changes, and what species don't make it
Another addition could be different types of body plans. There would be the basic, fleshy one, but you could also have insect-like body plans with exoskeletons, or shelled creatures. Each type of body would have different types of unique legs, eyes, etc.
Yet another idea! Continental drift (that one's pretty self-explanatory)
Hey Jacob, without making promises, all 3 (random events/disasters, other body plans, slowly change what land masses are connected) are cool ideas if you ask me :)
@@TheSapling Thanks! Never thought you'd see this comment lol
This is pretty cool. I'd like to see more of this series.
I've been playing the game for a while now and I was wondering if eventually you would add pre-sets for planet creation. Like some pre-made environments for playing around with, as i've found it hard to make an environment suited for what I want to do.
Hey Quinn, without making promises, I like this idea, thanks!
The Sapling is everything I could have asked for, watching it improve, and evolve just like the creatures in it
Glad that you're alright lol. Chad series btw
Any day you upload is a happy day :)
magnificent, i am pleased after getting to see such a video as this one
I'm going to play right now, awesome stuff!
Ive been watching this game progress for so long and I evolved so much
woah, this was really amazing; cant wait to see how the development goes!!!
Please continue this series please because I can’t wait to see the land animal
Love this game. thank you for starting this series.
This has been in my “Watch Later” for a long while. I’ve been scrolling old channels to see what’s up, saw this, clicked on “Most Popular”, and I’m now here. 5:02 What a beautiful and calming voice. This was eleven months ago, when I’m done… I’ll check out your latest video! You’ve great work here! Speaking of, there’s no way you’ve not heard of Rain World, right?
7:33 Golly….
Definitely heard of it, but I haven't played it... I guess you recommend it, right?
@@TheSapling Hell yeah!
Fascinating look into the evolution of life on this simulated planet! Can't wait to see what comes next.
The level of detail is
Wow just wow
Awesome series im getting this game simulator soon for sure
Whoa this is awesome please continue!
I like games I like AI I like simulation I like similar games You just earned a customer
I hope this series continues with that world
It will, at least for episode #2 and #3!
@@TheSapling hey didnt know how else to get this answer,just recently bought the game bc of this series, but The algeas evovlving/mutating into land plants in this video does that come naturally in the game or do i need to make my first plant?
best news ever, the new "spore"
you have a wonderful way of making your audience feel involved!
I'm so sad i missed the notification fir this episode!! But thus is exciting, mh favorite aspect of speculative evolution is seeing the species actually get to evolve! Very similar energy to the series by Biblaridion here on youtube
Bro continue this series. I can't really buy games so you are my only way to see evolution happen out
Love this series as my laptop would explode if I forced it to run this many creatures
Oh my god?? This is like the long-awaited sequel to spore
edit: ok its not actually that similar but kinda
oh i love this series already!
This game is relaxing and educational, this game is great for schools!
this game has soooo much potential - i was just wondering whether adaptations for like algae and plants came from how easily they would be able to access light and carbon dioxide levels, because i feel like a lot of evolution simulation games dont touch on the effects of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere etc and how that effects the way they evolve
Hi Angus, thanks for your input! This game also does not incorporate oxygen and carbon dioxide... any suggestions on how that would work?
@@TheSapling the more oxygen the larger stuff get
Thank you for making this game
dude I love your game keep it up.
I just love the sapling
Damn that's pretty cool
I'm really looking forward for the next episodes
This is so cool
I bought this game a few days ago, and haven't been able to put it down. It's insane how much fun I've had in it while doing absolutely nothing
How much is it?
@@Hastyviper457 I believe it's like $20 on steam. Definitely does have its issues, for example it runs pretty damn poorly, but again I had a blast with it
I think it’s £10 (don’t know abt dollars)
This can be a really good promotion type a thing for your program. Btw, love this thing bro...
yesas thank youu
I love this evolution series, it’s very interesting. I might get this game one day 🤩
THE RETURN OF THE KING!!!
hoping and praying that the next release has a mac version so I can play this gorgeous game, but in the meantime keep up the fantastic work!
I didn't know plants could evolve from algae in the game ! Quick, open the Sapling ! XD
Awesome video as always, I would love to see this series go beyond the three episodes you're aiming for.
It was added a few patches back ;). Not entirely happy with it, though (very different from how the transition likely went in real life).
@@TheSapling To make it feels more like the real evolution you would need to add some kind of moss / grass thing... And I think it would be really hard to keep the feeling of the game. As much as I love realism and evolution, I think your work might be better this way.
This game is underated like there’s 2 videos like this one and I live it
It'll be interesting to see how land animals adapt to heat
Wow! Yes continue the videos! :D
Game looks much more polished than last time I've seen
Love this game and am so happy I got it
absolutely brilliant
I think ive found something id genuinely enjoy doing. Evolution simulators
I'm a month late, but this is very cool! I'd love to see more of these :)
i realy like this game its very good
edit mom im famous
Nice video
this game looks awesome
I wanna see this continue!
I love watching you play this game.
Please continue doing this game and series
Great video
Im new sub and this Game IS something i wished for so long!! I cant wait to play It!🎉😍😍
That's so cool
I think the two most essential and urgent expansions for this great game are
1. mating, courtship, gene crossing
> Integration of biological fitness into the game, sexual selection, mate attraction (antlers, plumage, songs, dances).
2. complete reconstruction of the plant world
> Radial symmetry and randomly proliferating branches instead of "glued on body parts".
> Clearly more diverse appearances
(especially the distinction between ground plants and trees, but later possibly also fungi, ferns, grasses)
> Possible approach: First add plant parts, which are whole agglomerations of branches and leaves (treetops), instead of individual leaves or fruits, also add radial symmetry. Later on, more, such as subdivision into trunk and crown in trees (perhaps automatically, like head, trunk and tail in the present animals) and, for example, that fruits grow randomly in predetermined areas instead of on individual stolons, and perhaps ade more size variation.
This will be incredibly difficult due to the dependancies that climbing animals have on specific tree placements , worse case this would also increase cpu usage making the game run even worse than it already does, i do agree there should be an option for mating though i do think this game can function without gene crossing(it may cause so many unwanted bugs)definitly more diverse appearances could be done and i think he should heavily focus on making them more alien especially some that have the same effectiveness value like mouths that do the same job but look a tad different and are accessed in different tree sections i think that woudlwork amazing
@@obiomajronyekwere4469 I prefer earth like creatures, like now, not too alien. Also, because we do not know any alien life, these bodyparts would be random.
@@user-qw4se4dh6h maybe a middle ground would be past life like ancient earth animals instead like anomilicaris
Hey O, thanks for your writing down your suggestions! Fully agreed that these would be cool and that it's kind of weird that the game has got all of these features but not mating ;). Without making promises, courtship display in particular is an idea I'm very excited about... although I haven't figured out how it should work ;)
@@TheSapling these additions would be awesome!!! Tho the fps☠️☠️☠️
Please make more episodes. They’re so interesting!
Idea: maybe something like a fungus that grows on animal corpses, or maybe also tree corpses(would require implementing tree corpses/dead wood), deriving nutritional value from the corpse in exchange for only being able to do that where the corpse it's specialized to feed off of is present. Or something like a parasitic plant that feeds off of a larger plant?
I could imagine an organism that possesses multiple 'root' equivalent systems, so that it can do things like grow more rapidly/reproduce more when feeding off of another plant/dead wood, then it would either die out or root on its own.
I'm also just thinking of this exact simulation, but is there any way for an animal with eyes to tell a corpse and a red plant apart from eachother? Or is it all the same 'move towards red' programming that can produce both types of end destination, regardless of what they have mouths for, once they develop eyes.
Hey Graeme, thanks for writing down your ideas! Without making promises, your thinking of an organism that blurs the boundaries between plants and fungi is refreshing for me :).
And yes, there is also a possible instinct 'if you see meat, go towards it', although I didn't see it during this run.
I'd be curious to see this game partner with the "Evolve" game (a spore spinoff, open source game project). You guys are going in the same direction, but evolve is starting out with cells, whilst you are working on larger life. Would be cool to see a collaboration
When you say Evolve, do you mean Thrive? I can't find any Sporelike game named 'Evolve' :/
@@TheSapling shoot!!! Sorry, you're right, I'm thinking thrive!!! ☠️☠️☠️
This makes me think of Spore crossed witha neural network AI. I am FASCINATED and will be giving this a try!!! :D
wish i had a pc to run this amazing game keep up the good work
This game looks great, definitely going to give it a try.
I'm gonna guess we have two things in common
1. Playing Spore growing up
2. Being Dutch
Die twee in ieder geval ja, maar vast nog veel meer ;)
@@TheSapling haha vast wel, maar gaaf project man
this is the first thing i really did. but i made super-simple creatures and algae so it didn't really go far
I have waited for a game like this!!
This game need random event to stimulate new evolution. Like we have on earth. Meteor or glacial era or volcano eruption
Hey Sebastian, without making promises, fully agreed :)
That would be awesome
im activating that bell...
I wish i could play this game
@Noodlekdoodle can’t I don’t have a good computer its super slow
@Noodlekdoodle no i mean SLOW it takes me like 3 minutes just for google to stop loading
I love this
I have an idea , make the meat rot after a while then it will disappear after a longer time , then make a new digestive system/ mouth which allows carnivorous beings to eat this rotten meat , this will make a new kind of animals , scavengers!
Hey Clyroo, thanks for this idea, it's indeed something I like, but what I haven't solved yet is how to prevent meat laying litterally everywhere if the meat decays slower. Any ideas there would be appreciated!
@@TheSapling mushrooms
Can you add inverse kinematics to plants? Sometimes I see the stumps sticking out and it bugs me a tiny bit.
Hey Woodpeckers, thanks for your feedback! Are you referring to the plants that are a little bit too high above the ground?
@@TheSapling Yes, Exactly! I don’t know how difficult it would be to do this, but maybe could you try lowering them a little bit into the ground and slightly adjusting the rotation to more closely match the steepness of the terrain?
I would love to see fungi as a part of the simulation because we all know plants on earth wouldn’t have been able to survive on land!
True! The problem for fungi I haven't been really able to solve is that they are mostly underground/invisible, and playtesting shows invisible mechanisms quickly get players confused and annoyed.
@@TheSaplingyou can use and X-ray or something
remember the bug of temperature and plants
Hey Amargarrex, there's a whole list of bugs that a file on my pc 'remembers' ;)
@@TheSapling ok
I love this so much😍
Nice
So good