Great job dude! I've been doing same tests at work (for streaming to youtube) with pretty static image with much noise (videocamera broadcasting record) and every time NVENC HEVC got more VMAF score than NVENC AV1 at low bitrates. Only at 5k AV1 had same VMAF score and little more VMAF score at 6k+ bitrates. So I think HEVC is a little bit better option for static noisy videos broadcasting with lower bitrate.
AV1 crushed 264 on lower bitrates but I mostly prefered 265 actually. Except for at 10mbps, AV1 looked better for me there. Its cool to see what quality we get at essentially the same encoding time as 264 but I hoped for more ngl. Maybe YT codec ruined it a little
@@syc6598 I did not end up getting a 4070S but waiting for a 5070/5080 and for now using HEVC for my workflow as I did some more research and in higher bitrate they are indistinguishable. AV1 gets the upper hand in lower bitrate which is good for streamers and steaming platform.
The only usage of av1 for me would be in wireless vr, but i still dont think it will work too well soon, since on last gen gpus and headset, only h264 works without microstutters, unlike hevc, which stutters even over a cable..
Nice video mate keep it up Just one question how much performance difference is there at 10mbps between all three encoders? You should have included benchmarks
@@ExtremelySimplified you have mentioned the specs of encoding pc that means you are using different pc for gameplay right? if yes then what is that average encoding FPS? I just want to ask that assume if i buy an rtx 4060 for streaming and gaming then i start recording my game at AV1 then H265 and then at H264 then how much will be the fps diffrence in all the scenarios? i just hope you understand what im asking sorry im noob and i have to buy my first graphics card so im confused between used RTX 30 series and New rtx 40 series just because of this encoding thing... Hopefully you will understand
@@sharmamatic I recorded the video using a different PC which is a laptop, then I took that video which I called "Source" and compressed it with Davinci Resolve Studio to different codecs using the slowest presets. From the tests I've done I've noticed this: 10 Mbps Target Bitrate: • AV1: 00m22s - 83.2 MB - 174.5 FPS - 89.637837 • H.265: 00m32s - 83.3 MB - 120 FPS - 87.357988 • H.264: 00m21s - 80.0 MB - 182.8 FPS - 79.982007 H.264 is the fastest codec but it has way too many compression artifacts. The second fastest is AV1 which I recommend all the time. The average encoding FPS is how many frames per second can the encoder do in a single second. For your case just buy the latest because you'll get AV1 codec which is better and also faster than H.265. RTX 4060 is better.
@@ExtremelySimplified im so sorry and im so stupid i thought you have recorded the gameplays with H264,H265 and AV1 thats why i was asking is there any difference bw the in game fps while recording with these 3 encoders
Looks to me that AV1 is the clear winner here. That said, when I record 1440p @60fps on OBS, setting it to CBR 40k kbps bitrate, H.264 seems to look a little crisper. What could be going on?
@@S0K0N0MI The real benefit for AV1 is to get the best quality while maintaining the lowest bitrate possible. When you get to higher bitrates, the quality gap narrows a lot between most codecs.
@@ExtremelySimplified Oh I see, so this codec is optimized for efficiency. My aim is to record in as high quality as possible before pulling it into Davinci Resolve, to minimize loss in the final render. Is AV1 still the better choice for that? My current settings are NVIDIA NVENC AV1 codec, CBR 100.000kbps bitrate, Preset P6, High quality tuning, two pass quarter res, with look ahead and psycho visual tuning enabled, 2 B-frames max, output to mkv. Would you change anything about this?
Yes exactly. Your settings for 1440P 60 FPS videos are suitable for editing later on. You can change max B frames to 1 to make the editing experience much smoother since you have plenty of bitrate. I usually record in CQP level 20 and leave the bitrate to the encoder to decide; if there are lots of movements, it will assign more bitrate, if there's less movement, it will assign less bitrate but for the most part you'll get the same "quality" no matter what.
@@ExtremelySimplified CQP on level 20 looks crisp as can be and is only half the size, fantastic! And you are right, scrubbing the video in davinci is like butter now with the lower B-frame. Youve helped me a lot, thank you!
Great job dude!
I've been doing same tests at work (for streaming to youtube) with pretty static image with much noise (videocamera broadcasting record) and every time NVENC HEVC got more VMAF score than NVENC AV1 at low bitrates. Only at 5k AV1 had same VMAF score and little more VMAF score at 6k+ bitrates. So I think HEVC is a little bit better option for static noisy videos broadcasting with lower bitrate.
Thanks for sharing your findings. It's interesting to see how the different codecs perform in different situations.
AV1 crushed 264 on lower bitrates but I mostly prefered 265 actually. Except for at 10mbps, AV1 looked better for me there. Its cool to see what quality we get at essentially the same encoding time as 264 but I hoped for more ngl. Maybe YT codec ruined it a little
Same opinion
Was not sure about upgrading my 3070Ti for a 4070S. But looks like the AV1 performance is the last push I needed. Great video friend.
Thank you for watching.
Keep in mind GPU av1 is not as good as software av1
@@syc6598 I did not end up getting a 4070S but waiting for a 5070/5080 and for now using HEVC for my workflow as I did some more research and in higher bitrate they are indistinguishable. AV1 gets the upper hand in lower bitrate which is good for streamers and steaming platform.
The only usage of av1 for me would be in wireless vr, but i still dont think it will work too well soon, since on last gen gpus and headset, only h264 works without microstutters, unlike hevc, which stutters even over a cable..
quest 3 supports it and the difference is amazing
Nice video mate keep it up
Just one question how much performance difference is there at 10mbps between all three encoders? You should have included benchmarks
Thanks.
Everything is mentioned in the description.
@@ExtremelySimplified you have mentioned the specs of encoding pc that means you are using different pc for gameplay right? if yes then what is that average encoding FPS?
I just want to ask that assume if i buy an rtx 4060 for streaming and gaming then i start recording my game at AV1 then H265 and then at H264 then how much will be the fps diffrence in all the scenarios? i just hope you understand what im asking sorry im noob and i have to buy my first graphics card so im confused between used RTX 30 series and New rtx 40 series just because of this encoding thing... Hopefully you will understand
@@ExtremelySimplified and i appreciate your hard work for putting that much information in the discription hats off
@@sharmamatic I recorded the video using a different PC which is a laptop, then I took that video which I called "Source" and compressed it with Davinci Resolve Studio to different codecs using the slowest presets.
From the tests I've done I've noticed this:
10 Mbps Target Bitrate:
• AV1:
00m22s - 83.2 MB - 174.5 FPS - 89.637837
• H.265:
00m32s - 83.3 MB - 120 FPS - 87.357988
• H.264:
00m21s - 80.0 MB - 182.8 FPS - 79.982007
H.264 is the fastest codec but it has way too many compression artifacts.
The second fastest is AV1 which I recommend all the time.
The average encoding FPS is how many frames per second can the encoder do in a single second.
For your case just buy the latest because you'll get AV1 codec which is better and also faster than H.265. RTX 4060 is better.
@@ExtremelySimplified im so sorry and im so stupid i thought you have recorded the gameplays with H264,H265 and AV1 thats why i was asking is there any difference bw the in game fps while recording with these 3 encoders
Нужен тест ещё на 20мб/с, 30 и 50. Чтобы понимать, какой битрейт передаёт оригинальный уровень изображения.
Dude, if I set 50k (yep) bitrate for my videos in 1440p , am I understand right, that there is no deference between h264 and nvidia av1 ?
There will be a difference but not that much. If I had AV1 encoder I'd be using it all day long.
Looks to me that AV1 is the clear winner here.
That said, when I record 1440p @60fps on OBS, setting it to CBR 40k kbps bitrate, H.264 seems to look a little crisper. What could be going on?
@@S0K0N0MI The real benefit for AV1 is to get the best quality while maintaining the lowest bitrate possible. When you get to higher bitrates, the quality gap narrows a lot between most codecs.
@@ExtremelySimplified Oh I see, so this codec is optimized for efficiency.
My aim is to record in as high quality as possible before pulling it into Davinci Resolve, to minimize loss in the final render. Is AV1 still the better choice for that?
My current settings are NVIDIA NVENC AV1 codec, CBR 100.000kbps bitrate, Preset P6, High quality tuning, two pass quarter res, with look ahead and psycho visual tuning enabled, 2 B-frames max, output to mkv. Would you change anything about this?
Yes exactly.
Your settings for 1440P 60 FPS videos are suitable for editing later on.
You can change max B frames to 1 to make the editing experience much smoother since you have plenty of bitrate.
I usually record in CQP level 20 and leave the bitrate to the encoder to decide; if there are lots of movements, it will assign more bitrate, if there's less movement, it will assign less bitrate but for the most part you'll get the same "quality" no matter what.
@@ExtremelySimplified CQP on level 20 looks crisp as can be and is only half the size, fantastic!
And you are right, scrubbing the video in davinci is like butter now with the lower B-frame.
Youve helped me a lot, thank you!
I'm I'm glad I could help 💜
How different is the file sizes?
All of them are roughly the same size. I mentioned them in the description.
hi how you upscale video to 8k?
I did it using Handbrake.
What ,which better high quality Encorder sir
You mean which codec is the best? obviously AV1.
@@ExtremelySimplified nvidia graphics card doesn’t Show NVIDIA AV1 in OBS
AV1 is only available in RTX 4000 series.
@@ExtremelySimplified sir my graphics card Nvidia RTX 4060
I see. try downloading the latest version of OBS, it should be there.
How can I contact you? Have you any discord?
Discord: Cortisolggwp
Thanks for reply. i sent you friend request
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