Synthetic stacks the same basically. I used to carry a 40degree and a 22degree on winter treks. I posted a video a few days about testing gear at home. It's really important. Never want to find failures on the trail.
Awesome to hear synthetics work just as well! I was sure it would, but just couldn't say 100%. Testing on trail, especially in winter can be really really unfortunate..
I think I may eventually pick up a synthetic winter bag. They're getting so close to down with the packability and weight. And, I may end up switching to a Pulk setup in winter, so even added bulk won't be much of an issue
Love that candle for the ambiance as well. Warmth, light, plus saves your batteries of your lights. Used it in a shelter on the AT in the rain with my family. Was magical just zoning out to it. Great tips you bring up! Love the fact that your peers are doing the same. Many similarities. 👍🏻. Gotta try the handwarmers sometime. Loved your teepee video with the woodstove. Great night with friends and epic scenery the next day!
@@johnchry1 That is definitely an aspect of the candle I had never considered! It definitely does give that sense of comfort, very soothing! I'm hoping to get out again soon with the boys for some more tipi camping, so its awesome when I hear people enjoyed it! I've definitely got to film more of the setup and such next time. Was in such a rush to set up before the storm and cold really set in :)
In the era of ultra light backpacking, sometimes it’s easy to pass things up. The candle does add weight. But, as Coalcracker Bushcraft notes, it adds to how you ‘feel’ when you’re out. I think it’s important that TH-camrs relay ‘why’ they purchase or do things. Keep the great content coming! th-cam.com/video/LkozFtqwkh0/w-d-xo.html
In the kind of temps I'm usually dealing with on winter trips, going UL just isn't safe. My last trip out, it was -20. You just can't be UL in those kind of temps. So, I don't hold back at all in the winter, I carry a lot of stuff.
If your sleeping pad needs to be blown up, wait to inflate it until going to sleep. Your breath is pretty warm, and the mat stays warm with your body heat keeping it warm. I make a small candle heater by putting holes in two cans, on that fits inside the other put a bigger tea light inside, set it on a flat rock. Helps by a a couple of degrees.
@@MattyOutdoors one other thing I do is run stretch cord under my mat connected to the sides of the outer quilt. That holds the edges down stopping any drafts. Also if your foot box cinches closed stuff a sock on the little hole. Great video.
@@garrycollins3415 You know, I actually lost the cord that attaches my quilt to my pad.. I did have one at some point though! And the clothing item in the top quilt is definitely an important thing to note! Thanks! :)
I only use synthetic bags. Blue foam pad. I started out with a summer bag over a fall bag with a fleece liner all inside a bivy bag. Was super warm and had to dry gear from sweating... needs foot vent modification with velcro closure helps prevent condensation.
What about sleeping in coveralls with thermals on? I hear snow mobile suit is Cadillac but spensive ! Where I live we get temps low enough to worry about is rare we are South of I-10 in Louisiana and freezing here is maybe 1 in 5 years.
Never would have thought about that with the Nalgene. Great job pointing it out! I have stacked a 30° synthetic and 50° down bag on a trip. It got down to 15°F overnight and I stayed warm with an xlite. It works for sure
Also they sell actual hot water bottles at the dollar tree and they are rubber and stay warm all night. I have personally tested them. I use 3 for my self. One for my feet, one on my back and one in the front. They are great for staying warm. Also fuzzy socks over regular socks and fleece pj bottoms help a lot as well.
Put the nalgene in a ziplock bag just in case it leaks. I also like to throw a couple of hand warmers in the bottom of my bag to get out nice and toasty! And Change your clothes!!!!! The clothes you had on all day have moisture in them, get out of them and into dry clothes!
You know, a ziploc freezer bag is an awesome suggestion, and I literally JUST ran down and threw one in my winter pack! Thats brilliant! Clothing is definitely a whole different can of worms, and im hoping to do a video on my cold weather layering system soon! :) Great suggestions, thanks for sharing my friend!
I wonder if you put boiling water inside a insulated thermos? It's safer against leaking usually 2 barrier's the lid to thermos and cup on top? It's bound to let off heat gradually !
Good tips man. Luckily it just don't get that cold here, maybe down in the teens "Fahrenheit". But good info, if I ever decide to stay overnight in winter. Stay safe and good adventures man!
If you ever get the chance to, it can be an absolute blast! And not much beats waking up to a fresh layer of powder! It creates a whole new level of silence out there. :)
reflective insulation works well to make insulated sleeves for your water bottles. Placing sleeping sys inside the emergency blanket is not a good idea while it works really well initially you will wake up with lots of condensation on the top of your sleeping bag.
I've tried making a few of these, but I don't find they do much in the cold temps we get in our Canadian winters. I find just keeping my water bottles inside my jacket and using my body heat to keep them from freezing more effective. As for using the bivy bags, I've personally never come across this issue when using mine, and I've used it a lot. Could be an issue when using cheaper emergency blankets, but never had that with the bivy bags
Very good video subject. Very good tips. I like it so much I’m going to subscribe to your channel. I cover the floor of my tent with four then when shield reflectors with reflective material on it that I got from the one dollar store. It makes one huge of a difference. I sleep on a 3 inches thick cushion that offers me the comfort and the warmth I have all my own bed at home. It’s a little bit heavier but there’s nothing better than that in my opinion. I also use the SOL escape bivy over my sleeping bag and throw hand warmers pouches inside of it. With this set up, sometimes I get hot. What scent do you use for winter backpacking? Thank you so much for sharing this video. God bless you.
That cushion pad sounds extremely comfortable, and I've heard numerous people say using windshield reflectors work great to insulate from the ground, I may have to try that out! As for my tent, it depends on how many people I'm going out with, but I have a 2person MSR, and a 3 person Marmot that I use for winter camping:)
Yep, and thats why I mentioned I personally don't use it, but know some folks that do. I think it also depends on your pad, as some dont slide around as much as others do
Avoid potential Ice build up in the lid before boiling water in a nalgene! Brilliant tip, tried and true 👍 Subscribed! Thanks fur suffering those nights for that warning!
@@MattyOutdoors only ice in the esky to keep my beer cold lol It does get below zero out in the bush, below-8°c on one occasion, it took the thermometer a while to start reading as -8°c was the lowest it would work.
Nice shout out for reflectix - I use reflectix for extra shoe or boot warmth - I cut it to fit under the insole - works well, it's thin but effective. Gossamer Gear sells a very lightweight 1/8" relatively cheap foam pad you can use to boost your sleeping pad R value - it weighs around 3 ounces. They have a 1/4 inch version that is super effective but more expensive and heavier. Thanks for your ideas, very helpful !
Hey, Matty ! Thanks for video! have you ever tried to sleep on top of Fjol pad at winter? I would like to see video testing with draumr and fjol at colder temps.
I used the Fjol pad on my recent winter trip in the Tipi Hot Tent. I needed my blue foam pad underneath me, or I was cold from below. The Fjol is definitely a summer pad, not rated for anything colder then maybe a few degrees below freezing. As for the Draumr, I do plan on trying to get out for some testing with it this winter. I'm optimistic I can make it warm.
What did you use for a stove pipe on the one you made and are you still using it ? I just built one following your video and just need a pipe and how are you mounting it to the stove ?
Its not ideal, but in a pinch, tossing on your shell can help get you through a cold night. I'll fully admit, I've done it before. Just gotta make sure you don't end up sweating inside the jacket.
Goose for singular, Geese for plural. I do know some Canadians that insist on calling them Canadian Geese, and thats weird to me lol. What do you call them? (I'm assuming you're not Canadian?)
@@MattyOutdoors Haha that probably would sound a bit strange. Actually, I never thought about it before, but I just say goose/geese unless I'm differentiating between different breeds. We actually have quite a few in southern Idaho.
Do they hang out on golf courses and attack you? Thats where most of my geese interactions take place, lol. So I guess to add to my answer, I end up calling them a lot of things, but none that I'll post on here, lol..
I have tested my uco candle lantern out a few times now without an issues. High suggest buying the bees wax ones they burn longer an smell better. It differently helps keep the condensation off the walls of the ⛺.
I use Reflectix on top of my inflatable pad and stay warm in the snow. I discovered that no matter hw good your insulated inflatable pad is, it is a heat sink. Reflectix is not.
I've had really bad condensation issues anytime I've tried using reflectix unfortunately, which is why I use closed cell foam. But you're definitely right about pads
@@nathansharp3193 Yah, should be interesting! I've never taken my current hammock setup into winter conditions, so there will definitely be some testing.
Matty Outdoors : I used to use a ghetto hammock setup at 9,000 feet in Colorado. Two synthetic sleeping bags with a blue foam pad, reflectix, wool blanket draped over the top, all the good stuff! Now I have a 0°F Warbonnet Wooki, 20°F Hammock Gear Burrow, and I still go with an insulated topcover. My topcover is a Snugpak Jungle Blanket XL that loops through the continuous loops on my hammock and fits perfect. I've only been to mid-20s fahrenheit with my new setup, but it was very high humidity and windy. So I think it would be good for a good crispy 0°F with a tarp going all the way down to the snow.
That sounds like a really warm setup! My underquilt is only a 20 degree. I got this new quilt in the spring, and its a partial. So I've definitely got some playing around to do, to see what I can come up with for a winter hammock setup. I've also got an Amok Draumr that I'm going to hopefully do some winter trips with as well! And I think you're spot on with the tarp!
finally someone who knows what they are talking about (what i mean is you know how and have done it, to stretch 3 season equipment to 4 seasons without spending hundreds of dollars on new equipment) The rest of the people are unfortunately jokes BUT candle lantern and carbon monoxide poisoning is a real deadly NO
I'm not sure if I'd call them all jokes, but they're a pretty funny group! As for the candle, I've only ever used it as per manufacturers manufacturer's instructions (obviously keeping your tent well ventilated). But now you've got me thinking.. I may actually put my tent up in the yard over the weekend and let a candle burn through the night with a carbon monoxide monitor inside, just to see.
A candle will produce carbon dioxide and water vapor. Carbon monoxide is only produced when a very intense flame doesn't have enough oxygen for complete combustion. Definitely not the case with a candle. I've slept with a Uco lantern in my tent on many occasions. There are millions that have been sold over the years.
And if the tent was that air-tight, you'd die from your own exhaust. Humans exhale carbon dioxide. That's why spacecrafts are outfitted with lithium hydroxide canisters, to strip out the CO2, and keep the oxygen concentration above 20%.
In a sealed tent with snow banked at the bottom to make is wind proof there is very little air movement, and becomes a candidate for carbon monoxide In a snow cave, the carbon monoxide is absorbed by the snow and is not a problem (I experience of weeks of deep winter camping in the North East)
Synthetic stacks the same basically. I used to carry a 40degree and a 22degree on winter treks. I posted a video a few days about testing gear at home. It's really important. Never want to find failures on the trail.
Awesome to hear synthetics work just as well! I was sure it would, but just couldn't say 100%.
Testing on trail, especially in winter can be really really unfortunate..
@@MattyOutdoors I finally found a synthetic I can carry alone in cold, cold weather. But before this year, I carried two bags.
I think I may eventually pick up a synthetic winter bag. They're getting so close to down with the packability and weight. And, I may end up switching to a Pulk setup in winter, so even added bulk won't be much of an issue
Testing stuff out in a controlled environment first is the best tip!
The tip more folks need unfortunately..
Cool idea with that small candle. Never thought of it cutting down condensation! I love my thick socks!
Dude, I love your thick socks too, those are bad ass!
I had a friend gift me the little candle, and its worked great!
Love that candle for the ambiance as well. Warmth, light, plus saves your batteries of your lights. Used it in a shelter on the AT in the rain with my family. Was magical just zoning out to it. Great tips you bring up! Love the fact that your peers are doing the same. Many similarities. 👍🏻. Gotta try the handwarmers sometime. Loved your teepee video with the woodstove. Great night with friends and epic scenery the next day!
@@johnchry1 That is definitely an aspect of the candle I had never considered! It definitely does give that sense of comfort, very soothing!
I'm hoping to get out again soon with the boys for some more tipi camping, so its awesome when I hear people enjoyed it! I've definitely got to film more of the setup and such next time. Was in such a rush to set up before the storm and cold really set in :)
In the era of ultra light backpacking, sometimes it’s easy to pass things up. The candle does add weight. But, as Coalcracker Bushcraft notes, it adds to how you ‘feel’ when you’re out. I think it’s important that TH-camrs relay ‘why’ they purchase or do things.
Keep the great content coming!
th-cam.com/video/LkozFtqwkh0/w-d-xo.html
In the kind of temps I'm usually dealing with on winter trips, going UL just isn't safe. My last trip out, it was -20. You just can't be UL in those kind of temps. So, I don't hold back at all in the winter, I carry a lot of stuff.
If your sleeping pad needs to be blown up, wait to inflate it until going to sleep. Your breath is pretty warm, and the mat stays warm with your body heat keeping it warm. I make a small candle heater by putting holes in two cans, on that fits inside the other put a bigger tea light inside, set it on a flat rock. Helps by a a couple of degrees.
ive seen little candle heaters like that before, but never made one myself.. May have to give one a try
I combine my two 20 degree to quilts. I've been down to 15 degrees F and was too warm. The system does work.
Nothing beats being too warm on a cool night!
@@MattyOutdoors one other thing I do is run stretch cord under my mat connected to the sides of the outer quilt. That holds the edges down stopping any drafts. Also if your foot box cinches closed stuff a sock on the little hole. Great video.
@@garrycollins3415 You know, I actually lost the cord that attaches my quilt to my pad.. I did have one at some point though! And the clothing item in the top quilt is definitely an important thing to note! Thanks! :)
I am TOTALLY using the escape-bivy idea! Thanks for that!
They work great!
I only use synthetic bags. Blue foam pad. I started out with a summer bag over a fall bag with a fleece liner all inside a bivy bag. Was super warm and had to dry gear from sweating... needs foot vent modification with velcro closure helps prevent condensation.
Getting too warm and sweating is definitely something to be mindful of! I've had to deal with that before
On a really cold night, I put set my electric blanket on H. It's amazing!
is that just for front country camping?
What about sleeping in coveralls with thermals on? I hear snow mobile suit is Cadillac but spensive ! Where I live we get temps low enough to worry about is rare we are South of I-10 in Louisiana and freezing here is maybe 1 in 5 years.
it would possibly work, but would be heavy to haul in, and wouldn't pack down as well as a down sleeping bag or quilt
Never would have thought about that with the Nalgene. Great job pointing it out! I have stacked a 30° synthetic and 50° down bag on a trip. It got down to 15°F overnight and I stayed warm with an xlite. It works for sure
I had honestly never thought about it either. until it happened.
Good to know stacking synthetics works as well (i was pretty sure it would!)
Thanks for the foil pad advice! Good idea!
Glad I could help!
Great tips. I love the water bottle and socks idea. Thanks for sharing
You're most welcome my friend, thanks for checking it out! Hopefully you'll be getting yourself out in some cold weather!
Also they sell actual hot water bottles at the dollar tree and they are rubber and stay warm all night. I have personally tested them. I use 3 for my self. One for my feet, one on my back and one in the front. They are great for staying warm. Also fuzzy socks over regular socks and fleece pj bottoms help a lot as well.
I've thought about the little rubber hot water bottles, but I go with a nalgene in winter, as its also my water bottle for drinking, so dual purpose
Put the nalgene in a ziplock bag just in case it leaks. I also like to throw a couple of hand warmers in the bottom of my bag to get out nice and toasty! And Change your clothes!!!!! The clothes you had on all day have moisture in them, get out of them and into dry clothes!
You know, a ziploc freezer bag is an awesome suggestion, and I literally JUST ran down and threw one in my winter pack! Thats brilliant!
Clothing is definitely a whole different can of worms, and im hoping to do a video on my cold weather layering system soon! :)
Great suggestions, thanks for sharing my friend!
Great job. Thank you
Rgds from the UK.
Thank you! Glad you've been enjoying! :)
I wonder if you put boiling water inside a insulated thermos? It's safer against leaking usually 2 barrier's the lid to thermos and cup on top? It's bound to let off heat gradually !
That may be worth testing out!
@@MattyOutdoors I have a bunch of thermos too some are huge. It's an addiction I buy vacuum sealed cups thermos etc .
Good tips man. Luckily it just don't get that cold here, maybe down in the teens "Fahrenheit". But good info, if I ever decide to stay overnight in winter. Stay safe and good adventures man!
If you ever get the chance to, it can be an absolute blast! And not much beats waking up to a fresh layer of powder! It creates a whole new level of silence out there. :)
I've used the hennessy bubble reflective mat it works decent
that stuff wont keep you warm when temps really drop though
Outstanding 👍
Indeed!
reflective insulation works well to make insulated sleeves for your water bottles. Placing sleeping sys inside the emergency blanket is not a good idea while it works really well initially you will wake up with lots of condensation on the top of your sleeping bag.
I've tried making a few of these, but I don't find they do much in the cold temps we get in our Canadian winters. I find just keeping my water bottles inside my jacket and using my body heat to keep them from freezing more effective.
As for using the bivy bags, I've personally never come across this issue when using mine, and I've used it a lot. Could be an issue when using cheaper emergency blankets, but never had that with the bivy bags
Very good video subject. Very good tips. I like it so much I’m going to subscribe to your channel. I cover the floor of my tent with four then when shield reflectors with reflective material on it that I got from the one dollar store. It makes one huge of a difference. I sleep on a 3 inches thick cushion that offers me the comfort and the warmth I have all my own bed at home. It’s a little bit heavier but there’s nothing better than that in my opinion. I also use the SOL escape bivy over my sleeping bag and throw hand warmers pouches inside of it. With this set up, sometimes I get hot. What scent do you use for winter backpacking? Thank you so much for sharing this video. God bless you.
That cushion pad sounds extremely comfortable, and I've heard numerous people say using windshield reflectors work great to insulate from the ground, I may have to try that out!
As for my tent, it depends on how many people I'm going out with, but I have a 2person MSR, and a 3 person Marmot that I use for winter camping:)
another issue with the relextive insulation pad is it is slick. So you need to fasten the pads together if you want to stay on the pads.
Yep, and thats why I mentioned I personally don't use it, but know some folks that do. I think it also depends on your pad, as some dont slide around as much as others do
I live in Wyoming and always wanted to go winter camping in my states grounds but never had the chance
Theres always next year! :)
Matter, try hothands hardwares. Put 5wo in your sleeping bag, they last upto 8 hours .
Ive used the hot hands before, and they do work pretty well. If I use them, it's usually on my toes
Avoid potential Ice build up in the lid before boiling water in a nalgene! Brilliant tip, tried and true 👍 Subscribed! Thanks fur suffering those nights for that warning!
Glad you found it helpful!
Some good ideas
Thanks Matty for sharing
Regards
Clive
Glad you enjoyed Clive! You probably don't see much snow in your neck of the woods!
@@MattyOutdoors only ice in the esky to keep my beer cold lol
It does get below zero out in the bush, below-8°c on one occasion, it took the thermometer a while to start reading as -8°c was the lowest it would work.
So what are normal overnight temps for you?
@@MattyOutdoors summer average mid 20c°
I can only imagine how nice that must be!
Nice shout out for reflectix - I use reflectix for extra shoe or boot warmth - I cut it to fit under the insole - works well, it's thin but effective. Gossamer Gear sells a very lightweight 1/8" relatively cheap foam pad you can use to boost your sleeping pad R value - it weighs around 3 ounces. They have a 1/4 inch version that is super effective but more expensive and heavier. Thanks for your ideas, very helpful !
Thats a great idea under your boot soles!
Do you ever deal with any condensation with it in your boots?
Hey, Matty ! Thanks for video! have you ever tried to sleep on top of Fjol pad at winter?
I would like to see video testing with draumr and fjol at colder temps.
I used the Fjol pad on my recent winter trip in the Tipi Hot Tent. I needed my blue foam pad underneath me, or I was cold from below. The Fjol is definitely a summer pad, not rated for anything colder then maybe a few degrees below freezing.
As for the Draumr, I do plan on trying to get out for some testing with it this winter. I'm optimistic I can make it warm.
What did you use for a stove pipe on the one you made and are you still using it ? I just built one following your video and just need a pipe and how are you mounting it to the stove ?
just 3" round duct
Is it a good idea to sleep with a goretex jacket on, in the cold?
Its not ideal, but in a pinch, tossing on your shell can help get you through a cold night. I'll fully admit, I've done it before. Just gotta make sure you don't end up sweating inside the jacket.
@@MattyOutdoors thanks for your thoughts!
Any time dude!
Sooooo...follow up question from Rpelton1. What DO you call canadian geese? lol
Goose for singular, Geese for plural.
I do know some Canadians that insist on calling them Canadian Geese, and thats weird to me lol.
What do you call them? (I'm assuming you're not Canadian?)
@@MattyOutdoors Haha that probably would sound a bit strange. Actually, I never thought about it before, but I just say goose/geese unless I'm differentiating between different breeds. We actually have quite a few in southern Idaho.
Do they hang out on golf courses and attack you? Thats where most of my geese interactions take place, lol.
So I guess to add to my answer, I end up calling them a lot of things, but none that I'll post on here, lol..
I bought a UCO candle 2 years ago. The candle leaked all over.
That sucks! I've used mine quite a bit and never had this issue
I have tested my uco candle lantern out a few times now without an issues. High suggest buying the bees wax ones they burn longer an smell better. It differently helps keep the condensation off the walls of the ⛺.
I use Reflectix on top of my inflatable pad and stay warm in the snow. I discovered that no matter hw good your insulated inflatable pad is, it is a heat sink. Reflectix is not.
I've had really bad condensation issues anytime I've tried using reflectix unfortunately, which is why I use closed cell foam. But you're definitely right about pads
Ground insulation?? Who sleeps on the ground???
Peasants, thats who...
A little birdy whispered in my ear that a cold weather hammock setup video may be coming though.. ;)
Matty Outdoors : NICE! 👍
@@nathansharp3193 Yah, should be interesting! I've never taken my current hammock setup into winter conditions, so there will definitely be some testing.
Matty Outdoors : I used to use a ghetto hammock setup at 9,000 feet in Colorado. Two synthetic sleeping bags with a blue foam pad, reflectix, wool blanket draped over the top, all the good stuff!
Now I have a 0°F Warbonnet Wooki, 20°F Hammock Gear Burrow, and I still go with an insulated topcover. My topcover is a Snugpak Jungle Blanket XL that loops through the continuous loops on my hammock and fits perfect. I've only been to mid-20s fahrenheit with my new setup, but it was very high humidity and windy. So I think it would be good for a good crispy 0°F with a tarp going all the way down to the snow.
That sounds like a really warm setup! My underquilt is only a 20 degree. I got this new quilt in the spring, and its a partial. So I've definitely got some playing around to do, to see what I can come up with for a winter hammock setup. I've also got an Amok Draumr that I'm going to hopefully do some winter trips with as well!
And I think you're spot on with the tarp!
I recommend mediocre weed as an addition. A good cough will heat ya right up.
Warming the body and the soul!
hi michael, vsauce here
hello
finally someone who knows what they are talking about
(what i mean is you know how and have done it, to stretch 3 season equipment to 4 seasons without spending hundreds of dollars on new equipment)
The rest of the people are unfortunately jokes
BUT
candle lantern and carbon monoxide poisoning is a real deadly NO
I'm not sure if I'd call them all jokes, but they're a pretty funny group!
As for the candle, I've only ever used it as per manufacturers manufacturer's instructions (obviously keeping your tent well ventilated). But now you've got me thinking.. I may actually put my tent up in the yard over the weekend and let a candle burn through the night with a carbon monoxide monitor inside, just to see.
A candle will produce carbon dioxide and water vapor. Carbon monoxide is only produced when a very intense flame doesn't have enough oxygen for complete combustion. Definitely not the case with a candle. I've slept with a Uco lantern in my tent on many occasions. There are millions that have been sold over the years.
And if the tent was that air-tight, you'd die from your own exhaust. Humans exhale carbon dioxide. That's why spacecrafts are outfitted with lithium hydroxide canisters, to strip out the CO2, and keep the oxygen concentration above 20%.
In a sealed tent with snow banked at the bottom to make is wind proof there is very little air movement, and becomes a candidate for carbon monoxide
In a snow cave, the carbon monoxide is absorbed by the snow and is not a problem
(I experience of weeks of deep winter camping in the North East)
Also
the orange emergency bag is not breathable
Surely the bag inside will get damp and wet from perspiration
Rendering the bag much less effective?