Yeah I didn’t even watch the ova the first time I watched this series and in watching the reactions I saw the ova just before this so it was crazy to see that juxtaposition this time. One of the best instances of foreshadowing I’ve seen.
I would specify that too "when the ost continues to play in the credits". There seems to be a pact among the anime studios to only do this for legendary episodes. This episode. The "we are playing a requiem for you" episode in yorknew arc. Episode 19 of demon slayer. A certain episode in the sisters arc in railgun S.
I so strongly disagree. The intent to cause harm and causing harm, and the intent to help, but causing harm, are vastly different things with vastly different consequences and responses after the fact. Intent is the difference between life in prison and a couple years in prison. Intent is the difference between a warning, and a fine. Intent is the difference between forgiveness and bitter hatred. If Subaru had intended to ruin Emilia's chances to become the ruler, do you really think that she'd ever forgive him for that and let him back? No, of course not. She clearly does see that he intended to help her, however she is still hurt that he would disregard her wishes, that he would break his promise to her. Because she knows that Subaru isn't out to hurt her, she can forgive him. Intent totally does matter.
I do not disagree, however, if someone accidentally kills a child by making the wrong decision (such as driving while tipsy or while they are tired - i.e. they make the conscious decision to do so, even if they are unaware or do not think of future consequences), does this mean that the mother should forgive them? What I think Teeaboo is referring to is not the action, or the consequences, but the emotional/physical effect it has on those involved. Of course intent matters, as you state, especially in the legal system, but anyone who is hurt by the outcome is not obligated to forgive them because they 'didn't mean for that to happen', because that person is still hurt. Especially in this case, as the outcome to Emilia by the broken promise and outbursts were not unpredictable, he just didn't believe doing so would be an issue, so he didn't even think about them. Then when faced with Emilia's opinion on the matter, and how upset she was, his reaction was trying to justify it be invalidating her thoughts by essentially saying 'think of how much I've done for you, you, don't think that way about it', 'if I did for you, then I did nothing wrong' Sorry for the rant, I hope you enjoy your day :)
@@Kat_X_12 I never said that anyone is obligated to forgive someone if their intentions were to do good but their actions result in harm. I stated that intent matters and that there is a massive difference between the intent to do harm and the intent to do good, and that when either action results in harm, the consequences of that are very different. In Subaru's case, his frustration stems from the fact that he has return by death and has seen Emilia die, and he also knows that he is more capable of protecting people than those around him understand which is why he's so frustrated that Emilia - in his mind - doesn't trust him enough to have him by her side. It's not that he isn't thinking about how Emilia would feel if he broke his promise, he acknowledges it directly before he goes to the castle, but he justifies it precisely because he believes that he can be the only one that can protect Emilia due to his power. The problem for him is that he's misunderstanding her concern for him, thinking that she's pushing him away when she's really just worried about him hurting himself more. I don't think he's invalidating her thoughts at all, just like she isn't invalidating his thoughts. They simply misunderstand each other because they haven't or can't be completely honest. This is highlighted by the fact that Emilia has never told Subaru about how other people treat her compared to him, but again, this is stemming from a misunderstanding, or the lack of information that Subaru has about the world. Put yourself in his shoes. Imagine how you would react if you had multiple weeks of extra memories about the people around you than they do, you know things about them they don't remember ever telling you, and you've also watched them die, and you've died for them, and now one of them starts pushing you away, but you're SURE that if you're not there they will get hurt, or die again if you aren't there to protect them. How would you feel? Would you get upset? I'm sure that I would. I think it's a perfectly natural reaction.
@@Hirome_Satou I know you never stated this, I was just giving my opinion on the matter. Believe me, I COMPLETELY understand Subaru's actions as though they were my own, and I have actually been in his shoes a few times in my own personal circumstances. One of the reasons I love this show is because of the intense realism I feel towards characters' feelings, and how it is portrayed in their actions. I am a student of psychology and I think it is absolutely fascinating given what he has gone through, and as I am sure we can all agree, he has every right to worry about not being beside her as we can see what happens if he isn't. That being said, as an outside observer, or from the point of view of Emilia, you can see what his statements would feel to her; obviously not good. It is a very low moment for him, and he goes way too far as I'm sure you can agree. Even with all of the inside knowledge of what he has been through, you can't deny that what he did and said at the end of the episode to Emilia is selfish and unreasonable, it is a terrible thing to say to someone who you have ignored and upset. Because of all he has done to help and save her she is not allowed to be upset and should understand him implicitly, even when he does not say anything (of course we know he can't, but she does not)? Whether this is my opinion or not, Emilia indicates that is a facet of how she feels based on her words at the time. The initial reply was not based on my thoughts of Subaru, it was based on the statement that you disagree that regardless of your intentions, the action that you take can sometimes still be just as harmful or unforgivable whether you mean it or not, though in this case, I would not say that the action is unforgivable, just for the sake of discussion (of course not including in the court of law) Again, I would like to add, for me, this is all in the subject of jest and discussion. For me, this is not mean spirited or trying to argue against your opinion, I just like to discuss my thoughts with others, and wasn't sure if I came off too much in the previous message (I am autistic so it is hard to tell sometimes 🙂)
I don't strongly disagree but am neutral/grey about this. Yes, intent does matter & can be difference in court between mental asylum or life prison. To out it summarily "It's the thought that counts" but "Actions speaks louder than words"
I figured that Rems line about the cultists "stealing her reason to die" was a re-skin of "something to die for" in reference to how important Subaru is to Rem. Probably largely from how Subaru nearly died for her, she feels like the has a life debt or something reminiscent of one. (Or just loves him a lot.)
During the airing of the episode 13 and 14, i see many people drop the show because they thought Subaru is some typical isekai protagonist they could self-insert to. That's why when they see Subaru has an actual flaw in his character and do something unlikeable they just drop it, which is pretty hilarious to me back then.
@@Diinytro yeah, i forgot what website that i watch it during airing, but there's a comment section in it and reading it was pretty hilarious every week.
@@Diinytroit’s obvious for a few reasons. 1) Teaboo mentioned that of the things he heard about the show, Subaru being unlikable was a big one. Negativity spreads more than positivity. For fans of re zero, Subaru is one of the biggest pros. But for ppl who dropped it or disliked it, Subaru’s nature would be a big problem. It also is more obvious when his character is meant to also shine a light on the viewer. 2) a lot of ppl outright cite it as a reason.
I think Wilhelm's line in ep 14 links to one of Subaru's biggest flaws; we find him in ep 14 facing arguably one of his biggest challenges, the result of his irresponsible actions. And instead of taking the guys advice and trying to think of a way to make it up to Emilia or apologize, he tries to think of a way out of it. In the beginning of the show, he met Emilia and they spent the whole day making a relationship, until he realized she was special enough to him that he wanted to help her. Then he died. And because he remembers these memories, ever since, he hasn't really made an effort to recreate that, feeling like he knows enough and the way he feels will close the gap. In the success of the first loop, he didn't even meet Emilia until he randomly showed up and saved her life, all the while acting like he loved her and they were super close, when in her view, they don't really know much of each other and haven't known each other long enough to form that kind of bond. He is just a random man who keeps helping her and has no reason to have a connection to her (this isn't to say they haven't bonded at times in the mansion, but his feelings towards her will no doubt feel too heavy for her considering how long and close they have been in her perspective). He is so focused on solving issues and progressing the 'story' that he has come to correlate showing the people he cares about that he cares by 'saving them'; Emilia should know that he cares because he saved her life! Except the 'first time' they met was when he saved her, so why should she see it that way? In her eyes, he has always been a 'heroic' guy, who will charge head first into conflict, so she does not read into it as though it is the exception, when for him it is way of caring for her. In this ep, he is doing the same thing; he is planning to go back to Emilia and she her he cares by 'saving' her again, when that isn't what she wants, because she doesn't understand what he is trying to convey. I think it is a very big part of his character to train and get just good enough that he can cheat the 'system' and give up. I believe this is what Wilhelm is trying to say. He can see he isn't training to get better, he is training to run away, from his problems, to 'forsake his strength'. We even see Wilhelm say this after Subaru is thinking that he can make any problem disappear, would it not have been more apt to say he can solve any problem, which IS essentially what he is doing? I think this is because even he is subconsciously thinking that he isn't doing all her can, only what is required. He is good at putting just as much effort as it takes to get the ending he wants, and no more. If you made it this far, thank you so much and I hope you have a great day/night 😁
One of the, if not the best Re:Zero episode right here... absolutely shattered me when I first watched it, excellent that I was able to watch it again today.
Samme! Seeing all of this again is just...that much more hard hitting but funnily enough, I have a better understanding of this now than I had then haha. Why funny? Because my reason for watching this back then was cause I was reading Berserk and watching HxH at that time xdd So, when I watched the first ep and it had death in it OFC I was hooked immediately lolol Came for the death but stayed cause of Subaru (real)
I feel like the red credits are a reference to something, but nothing I'm familiar with. Either way, combined with music, and the still image with the gathering snow, its an incredibly striking choice. One of the advantages of this premise is that you get to have some devastatingly bleak endings, but still pick up and keep going with (Most) of the same characters. Its a little like (Spoilers, I guess, for a pretty old piece of media)...... ....Higurashi, in that respect.
@@MadMadNomad (I guess slight spoilers for Higurashi Gou) Im merely a Gou watcher so idk too much about Higurashi but let me tell ya, this ending hits as hard as that chandelier drop alright! Also, it kinda reminds me of those really old black and white French movies where they always somehow end dramatically, music and all. Idk too much about them though as I've only seen them being parodied in other modern movies so yeah.
Just as you noticed, Rem's declaration of love is a way to respond to Petelguese. He declared she was Slothful as her feelings couldn't reach Subaru. And I also like to see her act of saving Subaru as an answer to the same Madman. He said that Subaru would be saved if the "Gospel" finds its way to him, but it was Rem who saved him, Rem is his "gospel", or if you will, Rem is his guidance. Really beautiful when thought in that way. I have always liked to justify the big switch in his behavior/mental state between the beginning of the episode and the end by attributing it to his feeling of guilt, as you pointed out, the enemy now have a name and a face and can easily lump all the blame onto him. Of course there are other elements, but that is for me the most important and the one that they are trying to portray the most in here.
58:20 I believe it's as you've said earlier in the discussion. That Subaru is just "self-flagellating" and pretending to be doing something as a distraction rather than actually legitimately training. Since Wilhelm believes "learning swordsmanship is meant to strengthen a man" he stops teaching him, since he wasn't really teaching him to begin with. When Subaru's attitide changed into "I can make any problem disappear!" he no longer needed to vent but he also had no intention of getting stronger. Since Wilhelm was just letting him vent his frustrations through sparring, he figured there was no point in continuing this anymore, imo.
The way I also interpreted this was that since Subaru basically gave up on life (his only way of making any problem disappear is by Return by Death) Wilhelm saw in his eyes that he was a man ready to die, a man who had given up. Remember that on his first meeting with Subaru, Wilhelm told Ferris "I took a bit of an interest, those were the eyes of a man who had seen death" so he's pretty perceptive on that front.
@@araragisenpai4088 Agreed, it seems to me that Wil saw that Subaru had no intention of fighting/progressing and was instead relying on the death reset to fix all his problems instead.
The credit roll is so good, it really feels like a mic drop moment from the production. Just forces the viewer to sit on the episode and think a couple minutes, you know? The orchestral piece that plays is titled "Requiem of Silence", and goes for something like 7 minutes of the episode's runtime, I've rarely seen something like that done in a TV anime. It's a much more filmic choice from my experience. I liked your early thoughts on Rem's perspective while observing Subaru. Wanting desperately to help, but literally not being equipped to do much, or know what Subaru needs. And I at least don't think that's on her, it's a complicated situation and Rem has like 0 information. Putting these episodes back to back really highlights how differently Subaru approached things in each episode. First he's so desperate to be the hero once again to get in Emilia's good graces. Then he acts so pathetic and pitiable, but it's called out as yet another mask. And both are framed as very bad in different ways, leading to ultimately similar horrifying outcomes. Great discussion, and looking forward to the next one!
I'm glad you touched on offbeat tone that Betelgeuse carries enlivening the experience, and honestly it filled me with more dread (especially with the splendidly manic voice acting.)
I only put two and two together when I read the light novel, but the reason Crush and Felix is taken back by Rem calling Subaru 'special' is that it is the same way Subaru described Emilia at the royal selection which Rem had no way of knowing about. Also I find it interesting that after Petelgeuse calls out Rem for being slothful, as if to spite him, Rem manages to do the one thing that Petelgeuse called her slothful for (That her love did not reach its destination)
I remember when I first watched it, Ep. 15 immediately became one of my all-time favorite anime episodes when the credits started rolling. Obviously it doesn't hit as hard on a second watch since I already knew what was coming but damn, it's still such a great episode. All the production elements are on full-blast, from the score to the animation. And of course, we get Betelgeuse, maybe one of the most iconic madmen in anime, definitely so from the ones I've seen. His personality is colorful af and his movements and voice acting both elevate it to such heights that he immediately starts living rent-free in your head from just one long introduction scene. And I can't stress enough how much the animators do to make it all work, as well as the storyboarders. He's easily the most "animated" character in the show so far, both figuratively and literally. And it helps so much that his movements are all so detailed and impactful. It's not just that they're "fluid", they're snappy when they need to be and smooth when they need to be. It's way more thoughtful than just a "draw more frames and it'll look good" approach. On a character level, I like that while he seems completely insane, he's more insightful than you'd think. It comes off more as him being intelligent enough to be cunning and "see through people" while also acting like he's almost possessed by something that causes him to go off on those rants and borderline manic episodes. He's just such a really fun character all around. Absolutely one of my favorite antagonists in any show, and his introduction is one of my favorite antagonist introductions too.
Spoiler below for future episodes in season 1: Guys, please refrain from telling him that it's Puck at the end there, it will be shown to him in episode 18 just fine...
Is it a spoiler if literally all the clues are there? I’d understand not realizing if you hadn’t seen the OVA but with the OVA the connection is very clear. He also did guess it was Puck in episode 14 when his fingers got frozen off, but I guess he didn’t relate that event with the ending of episode 15
Ah yes episode 15, truly one of all Re:Zero episodes -About the fine attendant thing, since Subaru is all talk and doesn’t have anything to show for his bold claims it’s actually a degrading comment basically saying your attendant is a fool so we’re also viewing you less as a threat now and won’t take you as serious now so thank you to him for embarrassing you in front of everyone -Narcissistic is a word you can use but I think inferiority complex is actually more fitting for Subaru since he doesn’t value himself or realizes how much he has done for the other characters already so he always tries to do more and be 2 steps ahead to prove his worth to them failing to realize they already value him as a person beyond him saving them in one way or another -Weird subtitles for what Wilhelm said to Subaru, it was meant to say something along the lines of Subaru abandoned the option of becoming stronger meaning he came to the conclusion to take the easy way out and took what Crusch said to him the wrong way which is unfortunate because with return by death her advice might could’ve actually helped him -Re:Zero puts an interesting twist on how the sin arch bishops and witches embody their sins I think at this point in the story his definition of sloth is supposed to be nonsensical
Point 2: This actually tracks to what Tee said about Subaru having his emotional/social interaction being quite transactional. I believe that it is because of this that he selfishly puts EVERYONE he meets and takes fond of to be in "agreement" to this "transactional rule" of his. Yet, no one really has agreed nor even knows this about him. He never really has explained himself to other people about this. Of course, there is no reason for him to explain this but when it gets called out, like what Emilia just did, he lashes out and expects for people to be already in the know of his "rule" and even expects for them to think that this is "normal." I do not know if this selfishness of his is narcissistic cause I myself am unsure of the definition but yeah, I stand with it being an inferiority complex. Point 4: Yep, for now, it should not make too much sense. Hell, it might not even make that much more sense even at the end but in due time, dear first viewers, it will make sense. For now, enjoy the madness that is Betelguese Romanee-Conti *DESU!!*
Petelgeuse is a fan favorite villain. He's so immediately striking and charismatic despite how horrific he is. I like that he pulls off the deranged clown trope in a way that doesn't feel like copying the Joker or other famous insane villains
The Joker is merely pretending to be mad like Subaru here *wink wink* unlike ofc, our great and powerful Betelgeuse here who was TRULY born and bathed in it :DD
These are some of the episodes that really take this series to the next level. Not only does the introduction of the witch cult expand the world and overarching plot more than anything else to this point, but the level of brutality on display in combination with the cult's level of coordination and bold, large scale movements make for a harrowing foe that really raises the sense of desperation as well as the overall stakes of the show. The threat of lone assassins and wild beasts hardly compare, and when you consider that those prior threats were ultimately resolved in no small part due to the lucky intervention of deus ex machina characters like Reinhard and Roswall in spite of Subaru's best efforts on his own, it really makes you wonder how Subaru can possibly overcome this new threat when luck abandons him in the face of his greatest foe yet all while he himself is at his lowest. Additionally, Betelgeuse's introduction as a villain and everything that he represents carry a lot of weight and meaning. He is a direct foil to Subaru's own character and an embodiment of all of Subaru's worst traits turned up to the max. The parallels between the two paint a rather chilling picture of a potential outcome for Subaru should he take but a few more wrong turns. In fact, I think there is an If Story pretty similar to that.
I think Wilhelm's comment is an echo to Julius' critique on Subaru taking pride on his own flaws. If Subaru decides to brute-force his way through instead of trying to become stronger, then it's useless to teach him how to fight. For Rem, what I take is that she's willing to die for Subaru, but there's no point to it if they kidnap him before she can sacrifice herself to save him. As for what might happen in the next episodes, that depends on whether Subaru has hit rock bottom, or if he'll stick to his protagonist attitude while he spirals down for another couple loops (and yes, as the new OP teases, there's still some ways things could go worse). One review I watched that stuck with me said that Re:Zero is about loneliness and misunderstanding. On his very first checkpoint, Subaru tried to take everything on his own. It wasn't until he yelled for help that Reinhardt appeared and saved the day, both against the thugs and against the assassin. On the second checkpoint, he tried to bottle up his emotions and failed miserably. It took Subaru to cry himself to sleep on Emilia's lap for Ræm to start trusting him, at least enough to help him solve the problem with the beasts. In this third arc, with his arrogance being slapped away with everything taking the worst turn possible, maybe there's something Subaru needs to realize before he's able to connect with these new characters and save everyone.
People, do correct me if I'm wrong but if my memory serves correct ep15's ending music was sucha masterpiece it affected the director so much he structured the entire ending to sync with the OST which (i don't remember this correctly but) was the first time something like that was done in anime when this csme out in ~2016. Usually music is made to fit the episode but this was other way around for this so it coukd fit much better. A lot of people left Studio Whitefox to create the studio for Mushoko Tensei and you can see how the cinematography of MT is just a refined version of this. Witch if envy has been mentioned before to have killed all the other witches & destroyed/devoured/killed half of the world before being sealed. So, according to author the name should be Petel-guese based on Betelguese star, and is supposed to be a mystery as to why his name start with P instead of B is important to the story. It's just that cuz of Japanese accent & way of speaking people correct it since even name Subaru is based on a constellation.
Teeabo is probably the first one who is so sync with rem's character ,even for anlaysis channels focus is usually on other stuff,but just immediately figuring out how rem couldn't say its because you saved me directly,easily folds when subaru pushes,Rem tried to help subaru subtly even when well knowing he's not in right mindset
One of the advantages of you having watched the ova already: In the ova, we find out that subaru is named after a star (stars). Well, theoretically that is somethign you could already know, but I definitely didn't know that subaru is the japanese name for the pleiades. And on the other hand betelgeuse (petelgeuse?) is named after....betelgeuse, the star.
Yes, Pleiades... 7 of them, Greek sister-nymphs... I've commented on this under the OVA episode. You know what else is a star, a very prominent one at that? Aldebaran in the constellation of Taurus. :) You know what else is in the Taurus constellation? Pleiades AKA Subaru. Interesting, huh?
@@subarusama5673 SPOILERS As a guy who has ADHD for a brain and being quite the theorist myself, the slight spoiler exposure I had with Al and Subaru's connection and, now, in addtion to your comment has made me both happy and sad at the same time lmao. But now I understand the fanfare behind the theories. It really does make one wonder huh? And apparently there is Flugel too (I do not know much about him except he has some connection with Subaru and Satella too...or smth like that so no spoilers please...no more lol).
Yeah. It would be more app to say that Subaru was in a severe state of shock which at the very least Betelgeuse did not recognize as madness, at least not his brand of madness anyways.
We don't really know. You can't say for sure if he was or wasn't acting. If anything him acting would be more in line with the theme/point of this arc ( ie subaru being slothful and avoiding his problems ).
Correct! It would be akin to someone who has attempted a few times on their life "calling out" a person ruminating on sui-thoughts. And as a person on the sidelines, I just think both of them need some sort of help.
@@luffyluffy3758 i have been on rezero discussion from 2016, and i have some memories reading on reddit people discussing this episode and some people asking if subaru were acting, most people agree he doenst, its just that betleguese are much more insane compared to subarus "mad"
Welcome to the real horror and expanse of the Re-zero world though you will have watched more episodes by the time of this comment I'll make it anyway I disagree that Subaru is a "narcissist" mostly because I view that word as describing not an emotion, desire, or temporary state but an inherent trait characterized by a difficulty in empathizing with others. In current culture I also feel the term is being overused. In other words the reason I don't think Subaru qualifies as a narcissist is because I don't consider his current(very bad) actions and attitude to be an inherent part of his personality. 48:35 I actually think Julius would also have reprimanded Reinhard here for saying the dual "had no meaning", Subaru was indeed majorly out of line. But the fight still had meaning in both a clash of ideals sense, a teaching a lesson sense, and a necessary step to protect Subaru after Subaru's bad behavior sense" 58:20 Subaru had decided to rely on return by Death and thus was not really trying to get stronger. Even without context Wilhelm saw through that intention to a significant extent
Point 2: Now that you mention it, I agree with ya. Although, the intentions behind their disagreement would be very different. After all, we learn in this episode that Julius did the fight to "save" Subaru in his own way but ofc to Subaru, as Tee said, it was a matter of pride so it wasn't just meaningless to him. Point 1&3: Wholeheartedly agreed
24:30 beatrice had already told us about what is available about witch in general public there is just tales and myths about here the one he was studying in mansion....so yea not much info on her or any kind of summoning/time-space isekai stuff....Even magic is pretty rare in re:zero world actually.
THIS MIGHT COUNT AS A SPOILER, I'M NOT SURE, SO DON'T READ OR DELETE THIS AS NEEDED. I assumed that when Subaru talks about the thing only he can do, he means starting over (and giving up on the current present) with Return by Death. Hence, the comment about not wanting to get stronger. I don’t think it's just that, and/or I may have just interpreted wrong, but I remember that's what I thought after first watching this season.
I'm glad you liked my comment lol. In all honesty, I would've never noticed something like that a few years ago. It was watching your content that opened my mind to that kind of analysis, so thanks for helping me be a more well-rounded individual. Great vid ❤
1:45:05 that should be you dont need to know at the moment as if someone explain it it will be a huge spoiler , soo...... Rezero has this tendency to make you wait for the reveal :/
As for why Felix says that Julius helped Subaru is very simple, with his actions he basically earned the repudiation of both the knights and the nobles present, without the public beating he gave him the resentment towards him would have grown and he would have simply made him disappear in some alley of the capital without anyone bothering to investigate what really happened, he had sentenced himself to death without knowing it and Julius saved him from that fate. Finally, regarding Emilia's actions and the fact that she had made it clear that she did not want Subaru to be in the throne room, she was quite clear even before going to the capital that Subaru was going for treatment and to thank the people who helped him and that she did not want him around because he does reckless things for her and with Subaru's current state he would make her situation much worse, and this is something that she emphasizes to him many times and that is why she even takes him by the hand in the capital because she is worried that he will do something that will worsen her situation, which happened and Subaru is still in her face that he hurt himself for her after all the times that she told him in the most understanding and kindest way not to do it, but that is the incredible thing about Re: Zero the humanity of the characters in it from Subaru being the lowest and blinding himself, justifying his actions, Emilia blowing up at him and letting him know that she is not the reward at the end of the journey.
15:00 Damn. I love your other fans. These comments were FANTASTIC. If not spot on with everything, than at least brilliant enough to ponder on a formulate a legitimate opinion. I've missed this channel. It shows up so infrequently, sadly.
I haven't verified this because I haven't read any LN volumes that went past the anime yet, but apparently Nagatsuki (the author) said that the name is supposed to be spelled Petelgueuse (pe-te-ru-gi-u-su) and not Betelgueuse.
Obviously, there is a LOT in these two episodes to talk about, but I want to point out a tiny moment. It's so easy to overlook, but it always stood out to me as maybe one of the most important lines in these episodes, especially in juxtaposition with everything else. In 14, when Rem and Subaru are talking on the bed, Subaru's facade of righteousness starts to fall a little. He acknowledges that Emilia isn't going to be happy with him for coming. He shows a little bit of self-awareness, demonstrating that it's there, and that the tunnel vision he's so deep in is an active and desperate attempt to avoid having to confront his mistakes. But in particular, it's the line after Rem reassures him. She tells him that, as long as Subaru takes the time and makes the effort to properly face her, he can make amends with Emilia. She knows he can do that, she says, because he is a wonderful person. And, in Subaru's drowsy, vulnerable state, his first response to that is, "...I am?" He spins himself back up afterward, but in that one moment with the mask off, it's as though he genuinely can't understand why she would think that. It's a little thing. But even the first time watching, that line felt like an all-important glimpse behind the masks Subaru puts up, both to others and himself.
Ah... My brain trembles... 1:44:38 I do hear a bit of Inosuke in here, to be fair. I remember when rewatching it, after learning he also voices Inosuke, that I was thinking "Oh yeah there are bits here and there". Episode 15 is generally seen as one of the best of Re:Zero. The way it ends plays like a movie, especially with the way the credits just scroll on top of the scene, not as actions take place or dialogue is happening, like we sometimes see in anime, but just "Yep, the episode is over", except without an actual ED song or ED visuals. It's just snow and Requiem of Silence, which, by the way, is a fantastic piece of OST. I remember sitting in front of these credits, the first time I watched this show, and watching the snow slowly cover everything, with this music playing, and being like "...Wow". And I absolutely LOVE Petelgeuse, he's so entertaining to watch, despite all the terrible things he does.
@@EmmanQuinones5234 yeah unfortunately. i wsa surprised since most of the time he notices those small details, but i understand that rezero requires extra attention so its understandable if do people miss those details out.
I think It's more fair to say that Subaru has some narcissistic traits, but not a narcissistic personality. He genuinely wants to help other people and has a good heart.
And Here We GO! Ref "a fine attendant" Sarcasm. they dislike/hate Emilia and, since Subaru makes her look bad, they think that's fine. 23:35 Rem minding the store. the LN is very funny here. Rem was so good (and cute) she sold out the entire inventory except for a few appas. The shop owner appreciated the business but felt devastated compared to Rem. 40:01 "Once he gets to the village he'll be fine." 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 1:27:19 "El Huma!" "Magnificent!" What Rem did here is a lot cooler that it looks. The LN explained it. She used the blood from the body her hand was stuck in, froze it, and impaled the other two in the air. ---------- AND roll credits. One of the all time great moments in anime.
Paused at 32:23. There was no offered olive branch to be spit on. Crush clearly gave an ultimatum... do this or else is clearly one. That being said Subaru can effect nothing if he trys nothing. given the nature of his power it is sensible to sac a life or 2 in order to learn the things you need to know to form proper stratigem. I would say that if he had stayed and gotten healed and Emilia alone survived the atk... pretty sure she would in fact feel worse than if Subaru saved her by breaking a promise. Since she actually cares about others. Still tough call as to what is the morally better option.
Subaru is at a deadlock, between a rock and a hard place. Something needs to change. I find what you said near the end about him needing to speak more tactfully to Reinhard, speak more carefully to Ferris and Crusch, or maybe even talking to Julius to be true, but also empty. If, for example, Subaru did do these things for the sake of escaping the situation he's in, I feel that would be unsatisfying. It wouldn't feel genuine. He would just be speaking to Julius in hopes of making up for the sake of receiving help for his situation, not from an actual desire to make up and become a better person. In my mind, that cycles back to the discussion at the beginning of this video, about video game characters and quests. It feels the same to me if you look at if from the perspective of "Ok, Subaru and Rem can't do this alone, they need allies, so Subaru needs to be a better person and talk to people better, make up with some people, etc etc." It's not that you're wrong, they definitely need allies and help, but doing it from the perspective of needing help instead of genuine desire to be better, make up and improve oneself feels.....empty to me.
I take Wilhelm words as seeing that Subaru isn't really doing all those sparring to actually strengthen himself, it's just obligatory actions to show others and lie to himself that he is "working hard", when in fact he is just running away from his frustrations. Regarding Rem's words when fighting cultists, it is exactly as it seems, once they cut off Ram's horn Rem as person mentally stuck in one place, losing real reason to live. When Subaru came and made her "reignite", feel alive and finally move forward - he became Rem's reason to die for, her true passion and special person. Also I don't know if you missed it, but when Subaru first encounters cultist on that road, they just bowed to him, later they kidnapped him instead of killing. Hence maybe his dense witch smell commands important presence and authority to other cultist, Betelgeuse even wondered if Subaru is Pride's Archbishop. While it seemed obvious to me who is that giant creature in the end of ep 15 due to the voice and vibe I get why it might not initially click with others.
And, finished the PiP. Re: Zero season 1 episode 15 is, and will always be, one of the grandest, most horrid, mosr reactable episode of anime ever. Idgaf if anyone disagrees with me. It is cinema the like of which countless movie and television show could only ever yearn to approach halfway. I still cry or weep every time Rem dies in his arms. I still sweat with outrage every time I see those vengeful eyes of Subaru's. I still gawk at the art that is those end credits. I am overjoyed at seeing Teeaboo react to this.
One thing I really thought was interesting was why Petelgeuse was labeled/written as the archbishop of sloth. When we think of symbolisms of sloth, Petelgeuse's actions and his way of speaking doesn't really correlate. But the more I thought about it, the more it kind of makes sense in these episodes. Kind of like how a cynic person can point out other peoples cynicism due to the nature of being one, Petelgeuse can point out other people's slothfulness, as we see him do many times throughout his monologues, especially labeling Subaru's slothfulness and Rem's inability to reach Subaru at the end. This makes Petelgeuse a perfect antagonist for Subaru. Petelgeuse not only inhabits the sin of sloth, but by doing so, he sees the emotional weaknesses in others, which allows him to, figuratively, be at a level above Subaru. At an even greater point, much like how many people who are "street smart" can detect cynicism/narcissism/malice in others but they themselves aren't cynical/narcissistic/malevolent, I think Subaru must overcome this by integrating the Slothfulness of himself, while also not being enveloped by it. Much like the saying: "You can understand others by understanding yourself", I believe Subaru must overcome the inner conflicts and turmoils before handling a much greater outside foe like Petelgeuse, Because much like a naive person will always lose to a cynic, a cynic will always lose to the people who are capable of being cynic, but choose to not be.
SPOILERS Ahh to see two of our best boys in differing circumstances having Season 2 in mind is both invigorating and saddening. I literally FIST PUMPED into the air the minute I saw Otto lmao. Just look at him! OTTOO! And then there is our boy Geuse...Man, that speech is a double hitter for both Subaru and himself...Truly slothful ain't it? EDIT: Also, now that I have time to think about it, if Betelgeuse is asking about Archbishop Pride that means Pride is on the run or has parted themselves from the cult. Now that is curious cause Pride has yet to appear in the this show. Who are they and assuming they have parted, why have they done so? Very very curious...
The only difference between murder and manslaughter is intention, and there's a good reason each carries a very different sentence in most of the world
Trapped in a pit of self-denial of his own self-loathing for his own mistakes he cannot admit to... In his state of tunnel vision, All the good advice, good information, Good tips wash over him unrecognized. Hearing without listening.... 58:20 Wilhelm, who's respect he had earned looks into those eyes again.... And sees a lost cause, a man beyond hope. Therefore further instruction would be wasteful. Not just the eyes of a man who has seen death but the eyes of a man marching toward death. 1:40:46 This is very easy to understand. Many people have a reason to live. Many people have a reason to fight, even to kill... But who or what are you willing to die for? Rem says it... then proves it. 😱 So where can we go from here? Down. How far? YES. 😁 My brain TREMBLES !! (Monogatari lesson: Never accept offers to play Twister.) 🤘😏👍
Honestly I get it... when would he have the allowance in schedule; but the first thing he should of done is deep dive research his own ability. My point being is that he desperately needs what determines his save points. That is the most crucial element of his ability and not knowing how to not be blind sinded by it is a horrendous weakness. Cannot avoid the loss of a limb if you restart after recovery from amputation. Second to that is HOW he got to this mad world. I mean seriously blink and there? How do you not find that sinister in the least.
Just to give my take on the parts you were unsure of. I took Wilhelm's comments on Subaru as him noticing Subaru's lack of willingness to genuinely fight. In the scene before that with Crusch, we see him seemingly come to the conclusion that what he can do for Emilia is use his Return by Death ability (It's "something only he can do"), and he's locked in on that idea. Even though Wil obviously has no idea about that ability, I'm guessing he noticed that Subaru's will to live wasn't there anymore, since his mind was already made up. As far as Rem's comment about Subaru being her reason to die, I'm pretty sure it's as simple as having the desire to risk your life/be willing to die in order to protect the one(s) you love. Nothing too complex. And yeah, I definitely feel like these are the episodes that solidifies Subaru going down the wrong path, since he doubles down on his mistakes, even while apparently being aware that they're wrong since he asks Rem if he's pathetic. Deep down, he knows he's being unsightly, yet he can't help but feel like RBD gives him the power to fix anything and that he should be acknowledged for for all of the pain that he's gone through to get them here. The closest we get to sympathizing with him is when he sees how Emilia is treated just for being a half-elf, and she tells him how can she understand when he doesn't explain, while not explaining to him her problems. But that doesn't excuse the actions he's taken thus far or his attitude towards the consequences of those actions.
When Petelgeuse was introduced i also thought that shouldn't he be slothful if he represents sloth but answer to this doubt gets revealed later in the story, Can't wait for ep 18
As for Rem saying that he is her reason to die unfortunately she never overcame her inferiority complex she had with her sister, she only went from idolizing and being blinded by her sister, omitting her defects to doing it with Subaru, you can see in the bed scene how she knows that Subaru is wrong, but she refuses to believe it and that adds fuel to the fire, although it seems romantic to many that she gives her life for him, to me it seems sad and that she never really got to overcome her inferiority complex and servitude.
Great reaction and discussion,no power ups for subaru :) many were wishing back in 2016 for subaru is going to get some power up but nothing happened :) Loved your ep 14 reaction and discussion more for some reason.i just like -ve analysis of characters its done very rarely in anime and let alone this well. Slight thing not a you problem its mine it just irks me a little when people say subaru to go die...etc teaboo was the last person i was thinking of doing that...but thing is he doesn't want to die he might think he wants to but when it comes to it he doesn't want to die its not an easy thing to do mentally, i think he's still viewing series as very plot driven where he solves mystery..etc by dying little bit. but even then speaking for logical stand point of view it doesn't make sense for subaru to just die, because he still doesn't know how it power works its big risk still we don't know it its total no of lives,or few revive tokens per checkpoint,how checkpoint updates..etc I mean maybe its RZ anime fault for not emphasizing enough or too much trust in audience Be careful with spoilers in comments it was fine before dunno what happened this ep, i guess some people can't contain their excitement and big fandom in general attracts all sort of folks.
If you believe suicide requires courage then I think that is Rems point. The other way I can see it; is as a devotion rank. She puts his life above her own and since only her sis was that great before it has meanning.
To me Re : Zero is ultimately a discussion on the human condition. In all our fervor to understand the human mind and its emotions, we forget to realize that we are human. To put it in perspective, A cow doesn't need to think that its a cow, it just is. This acknowledgement that we belong to a particular species is missing amongst the swathes of individualists in the modern world. People forget every human comes with an innate ability just like how a cow produces milk. It is our ability to work together as social creatures and make it out of any scenario presented. Re Zero is the same, no matter how horrifying the scenarios are, human tenacity will find a way. There is nothing impossible for us. In post modern media where a lot of discussion is misanthropic and hostile to human flaws, Re : Zero chooses to believe that we can overcome evil incarnate ( Seven Sins) and truly become HUMAN.
Really love these episodes. They’re iconic. I wanted to piggy back off of some of the topics you brought up with that comment at the beginning of the episode. Besides Love, Truth, Mental Health, Memory, Fate, social snd economic politics, Interpersonal relationships, etc. one of the biggest themes/topics in this series is how it plays with and deconstructs and explores gender roles and identity/expression, and how that plays into this being an isekai/fantasy story in general. Obv you already talked about how Subaru had certain expectations of how this world would be based on his own experiences with media, but that includes how women and men specifically fit into that. In a lot of other series, especially isekai, the way women are treated is questionable at best. Whether it be by lacking character traits and only existing for the MC, or being SA’ed by the MC and it gets played off as a gag. This happens with surprising frequency, and even great isekai fall into this trap very often. And it never really gets pointed out as bad behavior. But from the moment Subaru enters this world, that is not the reality for him as the “main character.” All the women are stronger than him, they don’t put up with his BS, they are the ones who are elected for political power, and they certainly don’t exist for his convenience. And after ep 13, and continuing into 14, you realize that all the little comments Subarus been making about men and women’s roles since the first episode are not in fact going to be ignored, and are a fundamental part of his flaws. This is reflected in the knights and other men around him as well, through various means. Felix is an interesting one though, as it starts to bring in the themes of identity and expression that are explored later in the series (novel readers know). And usually, with a character like Felix, they’d be played as a joke, or as a fetish. It’s played as neither. And this is actually super significant when you remember the genre, and its reputation. There’s a lot to say abt Betelgeuse in regards to these themes, as he acts like a foil and parallel to Subaru, as do all the antagonists of the series, but that’ll be for later in the season. So yeah, all of this to say, Subaru is an extremely layered and complex character, as is everyone else. I love them all. Can’t wait to see your thoughts on the upcoming episodes.
Something that really struck me on this watch-through was episode 14 and the very abrupt change in Subaru's mentality ... and how deeply selfish both are. Episode 14 starts off with Subaru's pride being severely wounded, and him attempting to flail about, trying desperately to find some sort of solace to preserve what sense of pride and sense of "rightness" to his actions that he can ... and is failing miserably. He ignores and drives away those that are attempting to help him. He deludes himself that he's working hard to improve himself when all he's doing is spinning his wheels and just putting in effort against something that will not yield tangible results, like trying to push against a brick wall. And then he has drinks with Crusch, who gives gives him really useful advice ... but he latches onto the wrong things. Crusch is basically telling him to stop moping around, spinning your wheels, and instead of toiling fruitless actually THINK about what will solve the problem and then do THAT. However, what Subaru seems to take from it is her saying "I see the good and valuable things in you," and "you need to do the thing YOU can do to fix the proble." The concept of a hero doing "what only they can do" is a fairly common theme and trope in shonen stories (which Subaru at this point still thinks he's in), and so Cruchs' "encouragement" and "support" in him being the main character who WILL be able to right the wrongs in the way only he is able to is pretty much Subaru falling into his old "main character" mindset, doubling down on what was his problem in the first place. And Wilhelm, the next day, recognizes this. Subaru is much more energetic and gung-ho, and it FEELS like he's making progress ... but he's not. He's just putting more energy into pushing against the brick wall, convinced that if he's plucky enough and BELIEVES enough it'll move. And so Wilhelm calls it off because he sees that Subaru isn't dedicating himself towards self improvement but instead is set on re-affirming his old path of pushing against the wall. And Subaru's misunderstanding of Crusch's advise and intent is also what leads to the sense of betrayal when she tells him that if he leaves they'll then be enemies (because of course they will ... she and Emilia are rivals for the throne, regardless of how much they respect or possibly even like each other). Subaru's concept of what an ally is, and having mis-interpreted her sound advice of problem solving through critical thinking as simple affirmation of "specialness" and worth that she's supporting and rooting for, the fact that she calls him on his bullshit and lays out reality feels to him like a slap in the face and that everything she told him previously was a lie. But the REAL major turning point is when he reaches the village. On the journey there, he has psyched himself up as the hero, THE ONE who can save the day, whose actions and decisions alone will determine how things play out. He's the hero, and now that he's set his resolve and determination, even against the nay-sayers and doubters, he WILL make things right and then Emilia willfinally see how much she needs him. He has placed EVERYTHING upon his own agency, and will take all the credit when it eventually goes his way. And then he sees the horror of the seemingly insurmountable force that is the witch's cult. "This isn't what I wanted," runs through his head, followed by the repeated line, "it's not my fault. It's not my fault." Because. If you get it into your head that your agency is all that matters, that your will and choices determine the outcome of fate, then that means it IS your fault when things go horribly wrong. And when faced with the sort of carnage in front of him, finally realizing how powerless and weak he is that he would have no chance in stopping any of this, he selfishly and desperately runs away from the responsibility he was placing upon himself. And, to be fair, this WASN'T his fault... not really. But it shatters the delusion he had that, so long as he is there, he'll be able to solve the problem. His "main character" syndrome is shattered, and instead he runs away. However, as is pointed out, his slothfulness, his lack of action, also leads to disaster ... so that's not really an option either. And now, we see something new in Subaru's eyes ... and time will tell if that will be enough. Sorry for long rant, but ... I think that's pretty common for these videos.
To be Sloth is to not act. Despite his animate nature... has he done anything at all loving? He talks constantly about his precepts of love and his belief in whatever; but has he ACTED in ways that line up? He is an inversion on the common consensus of what the sin is... by imboding it to the T. Sloth is more about what your not doing... then what your currently doing. In that respect Beetlejuice is always doing the things that are not leading toward his goals... that is to say since he always talks about loving stuff; he instead acts in hate. He talks about Sloth constantly... yet he is never still. Sloth kills through hypocracy and inattention. Why did the Slothful person starve to death? Because he never TRIED to eat. All the beans and Barely and water he could need along with enough cooking stuff to make it... yet dies of starvation because they chose to not cook.
Honestly I think Subaru was always closer to Envy for me. At least I see his actions being more covetous then Prideful. He want Emilia because she is something greener on the other side. So close yet so far away 100% of the time. Any time so far he has seen others have something he coveted he's been snarky and if people like the children give him the time of day he is not gracious or appreciative because its still not hs desire. I am sure that if he is not Envy then he is Pride.
the part where he or she says this is wrong i get that very much and i seen the dynamic plot was good but you are right how do you see that idea of the hero that is so it splits between the anihero and the hero all that the same time and i see it in the kids too
Psychologically speaking he is a bit correct... after all when he dies he gets another try. Its still logical at that depth. It becomes irrational as he centers things on his POV and needs and wants. No one else could save Emilia 100% guarantee included. they'd all die before finding a solution if its a matter of riot or war or what not. No one can know enough to know when to do things and such... Subaru can because he returns by death. I believe our expected norms cannot apply to some one so hard to keep dead... that is to say Subaru should not be seen as human any longer since death is not permanent to him. From our POV sure I agree he is nuts.
I hope you'll do more double episodes, seems to be a good pace so far. Especially since some episodes make more sense if you watch them back to back like 14 & 15.
I believe you are misunderstanding the usage of strength. Wilhelm was using the broadest form of the term. If one has no will to improve why should he bother. After all whats the purpose of becoming strong? Is it not to protect the weak in someone as gentlemanly as he seems to be.
There are no wonds i can use to express how much i love the idea of Subaru overcoming his Pride filled wrong mindset with yet another mindset by filling it with Wrath. He doesn't have the maturity to accept her argument with Emilia was his fault and he couldn't keep blaming Emilia for it but now he has the perfect scapegoat he can blame everything on and focus on. It is beautiful.
One thing to take note of is the eyes. The anime makes very good use of animation and color around the eyes the let you know how a character is thinking or feeling, At the end, you may not have noticed, but the light in Subaru's eyes took an unnerving color.
teaboo don't read the comments on RZ unless something important which can get filtered through one mod or on discord...its much better exp going in blind without anyone hinting,....whae people see in the series is all over the place
I am surprized that despite watching the movie you do not know the form; and despite having heard the voice many times before not recognizing who it is... I mean we know a cat of many forms.
i feel like people being way to harsh (anyone who first time viewing rezero) on subaru. literally at this point we dont know much about subaru. atleast he never try to grope an underage child (sorry)
Hey, he is OUR underage groper okay?! Lol jkjk (Im an MT fan but I understand the dislike so its understandable and for me, I think it is fine) But as Tee said it kinda is understandable as to why people would turn away from him...but me being me, I like giving people the benefit of the doubt and with Subaru I gave him the chance that he would overcome this ugliness inside of him and become a better person becoming more ya know? Hence I stuck with him and heck, him being at the bottom is what made me root for him hence why I am here now, rewatching all of this haha.
@@EmmanQuinones5234 sorry i just couldnt stand people hate subaru for being just a d1ck (i mean without context here for now sure it is fine, but the amount of hate he gets in the community really ticks me off, but Rudeus gets away with it. IM NOT SAYING HE IS BAD CHARACTER PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTOOD XD)
Thank you for just calling him "Beetle-Juice". You WOULD NOT BELIEVE how many people simply CANNOT pronounce his name correctly, despite watching the entire show. I'd swear the japanese phonetics have to be some kind of memetic filter preventing english speakers from realizing that they know exactly how to pronounce his name, if I didn't know any better. I'm grateful you have the sense to not call him "Beetle Geese" or "Beetle Guise". I'm not joking. Also, the "Petelgeuse vs Betelgeuse" naming is a bit of a weird thing. I'd explain it if I could, but according to the author there's a reason behind it that, if I'm recalling correctly, hasn't been revealed or addressed yet.
a) Subaru has main character syndrome and treats the world like a video game b) Subaru should just kill himself to quickload at the slightest inconvenience like it's a video game pick both
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Remember when the head fell off of Subaru's snowman in Memory snow? Yeaaaaah.....
Yeah it's a cool reference
Yeah I didn’t even watch the ova the first time I watched this series and in watching the reactions I saw the ova just before this so it was crazy to see that juxtaposition this time. One of the best instances of foreshadowing I’ve seen.
a general rule of thumb: if they role credits, then you know that they know that they just delivered you a masterpiece
I would specify that too "when the ost continues to play in the credits". There seems to be a pact among the anime studios to only do this for legendary episodes. This episode. The "we are playing a requiem for you" episode in yorknew arc. Episode 19 of demon slayer. A certain episode in the sisters arc in railgun S.
I so strongly disagree. The intent to cause harm and causing harm, and the intent to help, but causing harm, are vastly different things with vastly different consequences and responses after the fact. Intent is the difference between life in prison and a couple years in prison. Intent is the difference between a warning, and a fine. Intent is the difference between forgiveness and bitter hatred. If Subaru had intended to ruin Emilia's chances to become the ruler, do you really think that she'd ever forgive him for that and let him back? No, of course not. She clearly does see that he intended to help her, however she is still hurt that he would disregard her wishes, that he would break his promise to her. Because she knows that Subaru isn't out to hurt her, she can forgive him. Intent totally does matter.
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I do not disagree, however, if someone accidentally kills a child by making the wrong decision (such as driving while tipsy or while they are tired - i.e. they make the conscious decision to do so, even if they are unaware or do not think of future consequences), does this mean that the mother should forgive them? What I think Teeaboo is referring to is not the action, or the consequences, but the emotional/physical effect it has on those involved. Of course intent matters, as you state, especially in the legal system, but anyone who is hurt by the outcome is not obligated to forgive them because they 'didn't mean for that to happen', because that person is still hurt. Especially in this case, as the outcome to Emilia by the broken promise and outbursts were not unpredictable, he just didn't believe doing so would be an issue, so he didn't even think about them. Then when faced with Emilia's opinion on the matter, and how upset she was, his reaction was trying to justify it be invalidating her thoughts by essentially saying 'think of how much I've done for you, you, don't think that way about it', 'if I did for you, then I did nothing wrong'
Sorry for the rant, I hope you enjoy your day :)
@@Kat_X_12 I never said that anyone is obligated to forgive someone if their intentions were to do good but their actions result in harm. I stated that intent matters and that there is a massive difference between the intent to do harm and the intent to do good, and that when either action results in harm, the consequences of that are very different.
In Subaru's case, his frustration stems from the fact that he has return by death and has seen Emilia die, and he also knows that he is more capable of protecting people than those around him understand which is why he's so frustrated that Emilia - in his mind - doesn't trust him enough to have him by her side. It's not that he isn't thinking about how Emilia would feel if he broke his promise, he acknowledges it directly before he goes to the castle, but he justifies it precisely because he believes that he can be the only one that can protect Emilia due to his power. The problem for him is that he's misunderstanding her concern for him, thinking that she's pushing him away when she's really just worried about him hurting himself more. I don't think he's invalidating her thoughts at all, just like she isn't invalidating his thoughts. They simply misunderstand each other because they haven't or can't be completely honest. This is highlighted by the fact that Emilia has never told Subaru about how other people treat her compared to him, but again, this is stemming from a misunderstanding, or the lack of information that Subaru has about the world.
Put yourself in his shoes. Imagine how you would react if you had multiple weeks of extra memories about the people around you than they do, you know things about them they don't remember ever telling you, and you've also watched them die, and you've died for them, and now one of them starts pushing you away, but you're SURE that if you're not there they will get hurt, or die again if you aren't there to protect them. How would you feel? Would you get upset? I'm sure that I would. I think it's a perfectly natural reaction.
@@Hirome_Satou I know you never stated this, I was just giving my opinion on the matter. Believe me, I COMPLETELY understand Subaru's actions as though they were my own, and I have actually been in his shoes a few times in my own personal circumstances. One of the reasons I love this show is because of the intense realism I feel towards characters' feelings, and how it is portrayed in their actions. I am a student of psychology and I think it is absolutely fascinating given what he has gone through, and as I am sure we can all agree, he has every right to worry about not being beside her as we can see what happens if he isn't. That being said, as an outside observer, or from the point of view of Emilia, you can see what his statements would feel to her; obviously not good. It is a very low moment for him, and he goes way too far as I'm sure you can agree.
Even with all of the inside knowledge of what he has been through, you can't deny that what he did and said at the end of the episode to Emilia is selfish and unreasonable, it is a terrible thing to say to someone who you have ignored and upset. Because of all he has done to help and save her she is not allowed to be upset and should understand him implicitly, even when he does not say anything (of course we know he can't, but she does not)? Whether this is my opinion or not, Emilia indicates that is a facet of how she feels based on her words at the time.
The initial reply was not based on my thoughts of Subaru, it was based on the statement that you disagree that regardless of your intentions, the action that you take can sometimes still be just as harmful or unforgivable whether you mean it or not, though in this case, I would not say that the action is unforgivable, just for the sake of discussion (of course not including in the court of law)
Again, I would like to add, for me, this is all in the subject of jest and discussion. For me, this is not mean spirited or trying to argue against your opinion, I just like to discuss my thoughts with others, and wasn't sure if I came off too much in the previous message (I am autistic so it is hard to tell sometimes 🙂)
I don't strongly disagree but am neutral/grey about this. Yes, intent does matter & can be difference in court between mental asylum or life prison.
To out it summarily "It's the thought that counts" but "Actions speaks louder than words"
I figured that Rems line about the cultists "stealing her reason to die" was a re-skin of "something to die for" in reference to how important Subaru is to Rem. Probably largely from how Subaru nearly died for her, she feels like the has a life debt or something reminiscent of one. (Or just loves him a lot.)
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betelguese VA actually sore his throat so bad after voice acting betelguese
During the airing of the episode 13 and 14, i see many people drop the show because they thought Subaru is some typical isekai protagonist they could self-insert to. That's why when they see Subaru has an actual flaw in his character and do something unlikeable they just drop it, which is pretty hilarious to me back then.
How do you know that was the reason? Did people say that?
@@Diinytro yeah, i forgot what website that i watch it during airing, but there's a comment section in it and reading it was pretty hilarious every week.
@@Warfold. KissAnime most likely (RIP)
@@Diinytroit’s obvious for a few reasons. 1) Teaboo mentioned that of the things he heard about the show, Subaru being unlikable was a big one. Negativity spreads more than positivity. For fans of re zero, Subaru is one of the biggest pros. But for ppl who dropped it or disliked it, Subaru’s nature would be a big problem. It also is more obvious when his character is meant to also shine a light on the viewer.
2) a lot of ppl outright cite it as a reason.
I think Wilhelm's line in ep 14 links to one of Subaru's biggest flaws; we find him in ep 14 facing arguably one of his biggest challenges, the result of his irresponsible actions. And instead of taking the guys advice and trying to think of a way to make it up to Emilia or apologize, he tries to think of a way out of it.
In the beginning of the show, he met Emilia and they spent the whole day making a relationship, until he realized she was special enough to him that he wanted to help her. Then he died. And because he remembers these memories, ever since, he hasn't really made an effort to recreate that, feeling like he knows enough and the way he feels will close the gap. In the success of the first loop, he didn't even meet Emilia until he randomly showed up and saved her life, all the while acting like he loved her and they were super close, when in her view, they don't really know much of each other and haven't known each other long enough to form that kind of bond. He is just a random man who keeps helping her and has no reason to have a connection to her (this isn't to say they haven't bonded at times in the mansion, but his feelings towards her will no doubt feel too heavy for her considering how long and close they have been in her perspective).
He is so focused on solving issues and progressing the 'story' that he has come to correlate showing the people he cares about that he cares by 'saving them'; Emilia should know that he cares because he saved her life! Except the 'first time' they met was when he saved her, so why should she see it that way? In her eyes, he has always been a 'heroic' guy, who will charge head first into conflict, so she does not read into it as though it is the exception, when for him it is way of caring for her.
In this ep, he is doing the same thing; he is planning to go back to Emilia and she her he cares by 'saving' her again, when that isn't what she wants, because she doesn't understand what he is trying to convey. I think it is a very big part of his character to train and get just good enough that he can cheat the 'system' and give up. I believe this is what Wilhelm is trying to say. He can see he isn't training to get better, he is training to run away, from his problems, to 'forsake his strength'. We even see Wilhelm say this after Subaru is thinking that he can make any problem disappear, would it not have been more apt to say he can solve any problem, which IS essentially what he is doing? I think this is because even he is subconsciously thinking that he isn't doing all her can, only what is required. He is good at putting just as much effort as it takes to get the ending he wants, and no more.
If you made it this far, thank you so much and I hope you have a great day/night 😁
One of the, if not the best Re:Zero episode right here... absolutely shattered me when I first watched it, excellent that I was able to watch it again today.
taida, desu ne
Samme! Seeing all of this again is just...that much more hard hitting but funnily enough, I have a better understanding of this now than I had then haha. Why funny? Because my reason for watching this back then was cause I was reading Berserk and watching HxH at that time xdd So, when I watched the first ep and it had death in it OFC I was hooked immediately lolol
Came for the death but stayed cause of Subaru (real)
Man, the ending of episode 15 is still breathtaking... it's massive, mysterious, beautiful, terrifying. I love it.
I feel like the red credits are a reference to something, but nothing I'm familiar with. Either way, combined with music, and the still image with the gathering snow, its an incredibly striking choice. One of the advantages of this premise is that you get to have some devastatingly bleak endings, but still pick up and keep going with (Most) of the same characters. Its a little like (Spoilers, I guess, for a pretty old piece of media)......
....Higurashi, in that respect.
@@MadMadNomad (I guess slight spoilers for Higurashi Gou)
Im merely a Gou watcher so idk too much about Higurashi but let me tell ya, this ending hits as hard as that chandelier drop alright!
Also, it kinda reminds me of those really old black and white French movies where they always somehow end dramatically, music and all. Idk too much about them though as I've only seen them being parodied in other modern movies so yeah.
Just as you noticed, Rem's declaration of love is a way to respond to Petelguese. He declared she was Slothful as her feelings couldn't reach Subaru. And I also like to see her act of saving Subaru as an answer to the same Madman. He said that Subaru would be saved if the "Gospel" finds its way to him, but it was Rem who saved him, Rem is his "gospel", or if you will, Rem is his guidance. Really beautiful when thought in that way.
I have always liked to justify the big switch in his behavior/mental state between the beginning of the episode and the end by attributing it to his feeling of guilt, as you pointed out, the enemy now have a name and a face and can easily lump all the blame onto him. Of course there are other elements, but that is for me the most important and the one that they are trying to portray the most in here.
"we judge others by their actions, and ourselves by our intentions"
-jaycw oneil
58:20 I believe it's as you've said earlier in the discussion. That Subaru is just "self-flagellating" and pretending to be doing something as a distraction rather than actually legitimately training. Since Wilhelm believes "learning swordsmanship is meant to strengthen a man" he stops teaching him, since he wasn't really teaching him to begin with. When Subaru's attitide changed into "I can make any problem disappear!" he no longer needed to vent but he also had no intention of getting stronger. Since Wilhelm was just letting him vent his frustrations through sparring, he figured there was no point in continuing this anymore, imo.
The way I also interpreted this was that since Subaru basically gave up on life (his only way of making any problem disappear is by Return by Death) Wilhelm saw in his eyes that he was a man ready to die, a man who had given up. Remember that on his first meeting with Subaru, Wilhelm told Ferris "I took a bit of an interest, those were the eyes of a man who had seen death" so he's pretty perceptive on that front.
@@araragisenpai4088 Agreed, it seems to me that Wil saw that Subaru had no intention of fighting/progressing and was instead relying on the death reset to fix all his problems instead.
The credit roll is so good, it really feels like a mic drop moment from the production. Just forces the viewer to sit on the episode and think a couple minutes, you know? The orchestral piece that plays is titled "Requiem of Silence", and goes for something like 7 minutes of the episode's runtime, I've rarely seen something like that done in a TV anime. It's a much more filmic choice from my experience.
I liked your early thoughts on Rem's perspective while observing Subaru. Wanting desperately to help, but literally not being equipped to do much, or know what Subaru needs. And I at least don't think that's on her, it's a complicated situation and Rem has like 0 information.
Putting these episodes back to back really highlights how differently Subaru approached things in each episode. First he's so desperate to be the hero once again to get in Emilia's good graces. Then he acts so pathetic and pitiable, but it's called out as yet another mask. And both are framed as very bad in different ways, leading to ultimately similar horrifying outcomes. Great discussion, and looking forward to the next one!
Masterpiece level storytelling and direction, and the chills I felt at that closing shot are indescribable. Just a whirlwind of mystery and despair.
I'm glad you touched on offbeat tone that Betelgeuse carries enlivening the experience, and honestly it filled me with more dread (especially with the splendidly manic voice acting.)
I only put two and two together when I read the light novel, but the reason Crush and Felix is taken back by Rem calling Subaru 'special' is that it is the same way Subaru described Emilia at the royal selection which Rem had no way of knowing about.
Also I find it interesting that after Petelgeuse calls out Rem for being slothful, as if to spite him, Rem manages to do the one thing that Petelgeuse called her slothful for (That her love did not reach its destination)
Which is slothful of him to not think ahead of huh? Ahh love, making people blind since inception!
I remember when I first watched it, Ep. 15 immediately became one of my all-time favorite anime episodes when the credits started rolling. Obviously it doesn't hit as hard on a second watch since I already knew what was coming but damn, it's still such a great episode. All the production elements are on full-blast, from the score to the animation. And of course, we get Betelgeuse, maybe one of the most iconic madmen in anime, definitely so from the ones I've seen. His personality is colorful af and his movements and voice acting both elevate it to such heights that he immediately starts living rent-free in your head from just one long introduction scene. And I can't stress enough how much the animators do to make it all work, as well as the storyboarders. He's easily the most "animated" character in the show so far, both figuratively and literally. And it helps so much that his movements are all so detailed and impactful. It's not just that they're "fluid", they're snappy when they need to be and smooth when they need to be. It's way more thoughtful than just a "draw more frames and it'll look good" approach. On a character level, I like that while he seems completely insane, he's more insightful than you'd think. It comes off more as him being intelligent enough to be cunning and "see through people" while also acting like he's almost possessed by something that causes him to go off on those rants and borderline manic episodes.
He's just such a really fun character all around. Absolutely one of my favorite antagonists in any show, and his introduction is one of my favorite antagonist introductions too.
Spoiler below for future episodes in season 1:
Guys, please refrain from telling him that it's Puck at the end there, it will be shown to him in episode 18 just fine...
Earlier than that, too.
A necessary warning considering that people already spoiled things about Reinhard.
Is it a spoiler if literally all the clues are there? I’d understand not realizing if you hadn’t seen the OVA but with the OVA the connection is very clear. He also did guess it was Puck in episode 14 when his fingers got frozen off, but I guess he didn’t relate that event with the ending of episode 15
@@aqua4089 Yep, it's still a spoiler because he hasn't realized it himself yet.
@@Gus_Na Unfortunately, he was already spoiled on it
Ah yes episode 15, truly one of all Re:Zero episodes
-About the fine attendant thing, since Subaru is all talk and doesn’t have anything to show for his bold claims it’s actually a degrading comment basically saying your attendant is a fool so we’re also viewing you less as a threat now and won’t take you as serious now so thank you to him for embarrassing you in front of everyone
-Narcissistic is a word you can use but I think inferiority complex is actually more fitting for Subaru since he doesn’t value himself or realizes how much he has done for the other characters already so he always tries to do more and be 2 steps ahead to prove his worth to them failing to realize they already value him as a person beyond him saving them in one way or another
-Weird subtitles for what Wilhelm said to Subaru, it was meant to say something along the lines of Subaru abandoned the option of becoming stronger meaning he came to the conclusion to take the easy way out and took what Crusch said to him the wrong way which is unfortunate because with return by death her advice might could’ve actually helped him
-Re:Zero puts an interesting twist on how the sin arch bishops and witches embody their sins I think at this point in the story his definition of sloth is supposed to be nonsensical
Point 2: This actually tracks to what Tee said about Subaru having his emotional/social interaction being quite transactional. I believe that it is because of this that he selfishly puts EVERYONE he meets and takes fond of to be in "agreement" to this "transactional rule" of his. Yet, no one really has agreed nor even knows this about him. He never really has explained himself to other people about this. Of course, there is no reason for him to explain this but when it gets called out, like what Emilia just did, he lashes out and expects for people to be already in the know of his "rule" and even expects for them to think that this is "normal." I do not know if this selfishness of his is narcissistic cause I myself am unsure of the definition but yeah, I stand with it being an inferiority complex.
Point 4: Yep, for now, it should not make too much sense. Hell, it might not even make that much more sense even at the end but in due time, dear first viewers, it will make sense. For now, enjoy the madness that is Betelguese Romanee-Conti *DESU!!*
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My Brain...trembles....
happy rezero day everyone! was having a bad day today and rezero content + teeaboo discussion is all i need
Petelgeuse is a fan favorite villain. He's so immediately striking and charismatic despite how horrific he is. I like that he pulls off the deranged clown trope in a way that doesn't feel like copying the Joker or other famous insane villains
The Joker is merely pretending to be mad like Subaru here *wink wink* unlike ofc, our great and powerful Betelgeuse here who was TRULY born and bathed in it :DD
@@EmmanQuinones5234 They merely adopted the madness, while Betelgeuse was born in it, molded by it.
@@EmmanQuinones5234subaru isn't pretending. have you out yourself in Subaru's shoes?
@@R3in_Ch Sorry. You misunderstood me. I was saying that sarcastically xd hence the *wink wink*
@@R3in_Ch Do we know that for sure?
These are some of the episodes that really take this series to the next level. Not only does the introduction of the witch cult expand the world and overarching plot more than anything else to this point, but the level of brutality on display in combination with the cult's level of coordination and bold, large scale movements make for a harrowing foe that really raises the sense of desperation as well as the overall stakes of the show. The threat of lone assassins and wild beasts hardly compare, and when you consider that those prior threats were ultimately resolved in no small part due to the lucky intervention of deus ex machina characters like Reinhard and Roswall in spite of Subaru's best efforts on his own, it really makes you wonder how Subaru can possibly overcome this new threat when luck abandons him in the face of his greatest foe yet all while he himself is at his lowest. Additionally, Betelgeuse's introduction as a villain and everything that he represents carry a lot of weight and meaning. He is a direct foil to Subaru's own character and an embodiment of all of Subaru's worst traits turned up to the max. The parallels between the two paint a rather chilling picture of a potential outcome for Subaru should he take but a few more wrong turns. In fact, I think there is an If Story pretty similar to that.
I think Wilhelm's comment is an echo to Julius' critique on Subaru taking pride on his own flaws. If Subaru decides to brute-force his way through instead of trying to become stronger, then it's useless to teach him how to fight.
For Rem, what I take is that she's willing to die for Subaru, but there's no point to it if they kidnap him before she can sacrifice herself to save him.
As for what might happen in the next episodes, that depends on whether Subaru has hit rock bottom, or if he'll stick to his protagonist attitude while he spirals down for another couple loops (and yes, as the new OP teases, there's still some ways things could go worse).
One review I watched that stuck with me said that Re:Zero is about loneliness and misunderstanding. On his very first checkpoint, Subaru tried to take everything on his own. It wasn't until he yelled for help that Reinhardt appeared and saved the day, both against the thugs and against the assassin.
On the second checkpoint, he tried to bottle up his emotions and failed miserably. It took Subaru to cry himself to sleep on Emilia's lap for Ræm to start trusting him, at least enough to help him solve the problem with the beasts.
In this third arc, with his arrogance being slapped away with everything taking the worst turn possible, maybe there's something Subaru needs to realize before he's able to connect with these new characters and save everyone.
There is quite a few points in the story where you could say this, but this is definately one of them:
Welcome to Re:Zero!
People, do correct me if I'm wrong but if my memory serves correct ep15's ending music was sucha masterpiece it affected the director so much he structured the entire ending to sync with the OST which (i don't remember this correctly but) was the first time something like that was done in anime when this csme out in ~2016. Usually music is made to fit the episode but this was other way around for this so it coukd fit much better.
A lot of people left Studio Whitefox to create the studio for Mushoko Tensei and you can see how the cinematography of MT is just a refined version of this.
Witch if envy has been mentioned before to have killed all the other witches & destroyed/devoured/killed half of the world before being sealed.
So, according to author the name should be Petel-guese based on Betelguese star, and is supposed to be a mystery as to why his name start with P instead of B is important to the story. It's just that cuz of Japanese accent & way of speaking people correct it since even name Subaru is based on a constellation.
Teeabo is probably the first one who is so sync with rem's character ,even for anlaysis channels focus is usually on other stuff,but just immediately figuring out how rem couldn't say its because you saved me directly,easily folds when subaru pushes,Rem tried to help subaru subtly even when well knowing he's not in right mindset
The song that plays at the end of episode 15 is so beautiful to me. It's called Requiem of Silence, and I think it's powerful stuff.
One of the advantages of you having watched the ova already: In the ova, we find out that subaru is named after a star (stars). Well, theoretically that is somethign you could already know, but I definitely didn't know that subaru is the japanese name for the pleiades.
And on the other hand betelgeuse (petelgeuse?) is named after....betelgeuse, the star.
Yes, Pleiades... 7 of them, Greek sister-nymphs... I've commented on this under the OVA episode.
You know what else is a star, a very prominent one at that? Aldebaran in the constellation of Taurus. :)
You know what else is in the Taurus constellation? Pleiades AKA Subaru. Interesting, huh?
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SPOILERS
As a guy who has ADHD for a brain and being quite the theorist myself, the slight spoiler exposure I had with Al and Subaru's connection and, now, in addtion to your comment has made me both happy and sad at the same time lmao. But now I understand the fanfare behind the theories. It really does make one wonder huh? And apparently there is Flugel too (I do not know much about him except he has some connection with Subaru and Satella too...or smth like that so no spoilers please...no more lol).
Subaru WAS NOT acting, is just Betelgeuse thought he was because his madness was different from what he knew.
Yeah. It would be more app to say that Subaru was in a severe state of shock which at the very least Betelgeuse did not recognize as madness, at least not his brand of madness anyways.
@@nameless8789 but it is what it is. like other reactor where they dislking subaru in ep13
We don't really know. You can't say for sure if he was or wasn't acting. If anything him acting would be more in line with the theme/point of this arc ( ie subaru being slothful and avoiding his problems ).
Correct! It would be akin to someone who has attempted a few times on their life "calling out" a person ruminating on sui-thoughts.
And as a person on the sidelines, I just think both of them need some sort of help.
@@luffyluffy3758 i have been on rezero discussion from 2016, and i have some memories reading on reddit people discussing this episode and some people asking if subaru were acting, most people agree he doenst, its just that betleguese are much more insane compared to subarus "mad"
literally peak
Welcome to the real horror and expanse of the Re-zero world though you will have watched more episodes by the time of this comment I'll make it anyway
I disagree that Subaru is a "narcissist" mostly because I view that word as describing not an emotion, desire, or temporary state but an inherent trait characterized by a difficulty in empathizing with others. In current culture I also feel the term is being overused. In other words the reason I don't think Subaru qualifies as a narcissist is because I don't consider his current(very bad) actions and attitude to be an inherent part of his personality.
48:35 I actually think Julius would also have reprimanded Reinhard here for saying the dual "had no meaning", Subaru was indeed majorly out of line. But the fight still had meaning in both a clash of ideals sense, a teaching a lesson sense, and a necessary step to protect Subaru after Subaru's bad behavior sense"
58:20 Subaru had decided to rely on return by Death and thus was not really trying to get stronger. Even without context Wilhelm saw through that intention to a significant extent
Point 2: Now that you mention it, I agree with ya. Although, the intentions behind their disagreement would be very different. After all, we learn in this episode that Julius did the fight to "save" Subaru in his own way but ofc to Subaru, as Tee said, it was a matter of pride so it wasn't just meaningless to him.
Point 1&3: Wholeheartedly agreed
24:30 beatrice had already told us about what is available about witch in general public there is just tales and myths about here the one he was studying in mansion....so yea not much info on her or any kind of summoning/time-space isekai stuff....Even magic is pretty rare in re:zero world actually.
THIS MIGHT COUNT AS A SPOILER, I'M NOT SURE, SO DON'T READ OR DELETE THIS AS NEEDED.
I assumed that when Subaru talks about the thing only he can do, he means starting over (and giving up on the current present) with Return by Death. Hence, the comment about not wanting to get stronger. I don’t think it's just that, and/or I may have just interpreted wrong, but I remember that's what I thought after first watching this season.
I'm glad you liked my comment lol.
In all honesty, I would've never noticed something like that a few years ago. It was watching your content that opened my mind to that kind of analysis, so thanks for helping me be a more well-rounded individual.
Great vid ❤
How bad can things get?
Yes
Daaamn, this whole arc is so PEAK, can't wait for more!
1:45:05 that should be you dont need to know at the moment as if someone explain it it will be a huge spoiler , soo...... Rezero has this tendency to make you wait for the reveal :/
As for why Felix says that Julius helped Subaru is very simple, with his actions he basically earned the repudiation of both the knights and the nobles present, without the public beating he gave him the resentment towards him would have grown and he would have simply made him disappear in some alley of the capital without anyone bothering to investigate what really happened, he had sentenced himself to death without knowing it and Julius saved him from that fate.
Finally, regarding Emilia's actions and the fact that she had made it clear that she did not want Subaru to be in the throne room, she was quite clear even before going to the capital that Subaru was going for treatment and to thank the people who helped him and that she did not want him around because he does reckless things for her and with Subaru's current state he would make her situation much worse, and this is something that she emphasizes to him many times and that is why she even takes him by the hand in the capital because she is worried that he will do something that will worsen her situation, which happened and Subaru is still in her face that he hurt himself for her after all the times that she told him in the most understanding and kindest way not to do it, but that is the incredible thing about Re: Zero the humanity of the characters in it from Subaru being the lowest and blinding himself, justifying his actions, Emilia blowing up at him and letting him know that she is not the reward at the end of the journey.
15:00 Damn. I love your other fans. These comments were FANTASTIC. If not spot on with everything, than at least brilliant enough to ponder on a formulate a legitimate opinion. I've missed this channel. It shows up so infrequently, sadly.
I haven't verified this because I haven't read any LN volumes that went past the anime yet, but apparently Nagatsuki (the author) said that the name is supposed to be spelled Petelgueuse (pe-te-ru-gi-u-su) and not Betelgueuse.
Obviously, there is a LOT in these two episodes to talk about, but I want to point out a tiny moment. It's so easy to overlook, but it always stood out to me as maybe one of the most important lines in these episodes, especially in juxtaposition with everything else.
In 14, when Rem and Subaru are talking on the bed, Subaru's facade of righteousness starts to fall a little. He acknowledges that Emilia isn't going to be happy with him for coming. He shows a little bit of self-awareness, demonstrating that it's there, and that the tunnel vision he's so deep in is an active and desperate attempt to avoid having to confront his mistakes.
But in particular, it's the line after Rem reassures him. She tells him that, as long as Subaru takes the time and makes the effort to properly face her, he can make amends with Emilia. She knows he can do that, she says, because he is a wonderful person.
And, in Subaru's drowsy, vulnerable state, his first response to that is, "...I am?"
He spins himself back up afterward, but in that one moment with the mask off, it's as though he genuinely can't understand why she would think that.
It's a little thing. But even the first time watching, that line felt like an all-important glimpse behind the masks Subaru puts up, both to others and himself.
Ah... My brain trembles...
1:44:38 I do hear a bit of Inosuke in here, to be fair. I remember when rewatching it, after learning he also voices Inosuke, that I was thinking "Oh yeah there are bits here and there".
Episode 15 is generally seen as one of the best of Re:Zero. The way it ends plays like a movie, especially with the way the credits just scroll on top of the scene, not as actions take place or dialogue is happening, like we sometimes see in anime, but just "Yep, the episode is over", except without an actual ED song or ED visuals. It's just snow and Requiem of Silence, which, by the way, is a fantastic piece of OST. I remember sitting in front of these credits, the first time I watched this show, and watching the snow slowly cover everything, with this music playing, and being like "...Wow".
And I absolutely LOVE Petelgeuse, he's so entertaining to watch, despite all the terrible things he does.
yeah the underwater scene in op reminded me lot of lots rei scene in sanegetsu especially from S1
wait, im i missing it out or teea didnt talk about the witch cultist bow down to subaru on ep14?
He unfortunately did not notice that :( Was waiting for him to exclaim at that too! Even, as a rewatcher I still find that freaky and creepy lol.
@@EmmanQuinones5234 yeah unfortunately. i wsa surprised since most of the time he notices those small details, but i understand that rezero requires extra attention so its understandable if do people miss those details out.
I think her comment about her reason to die is that she would die for Subaru because of her love. Killing Subaru would take that away from her.
I think It's more fair to say that Subaru has some narcissistic traits, but not a narcissistic personality. He genuinely wants to help other people and has a good heart.
And Here We GO!
Ref "a fine attendant"
Sarcasm. they dislike/hate Emilia and, since Subaru makes her look bad, they think that's fine.
23:35
Rem minding the store.
the LN is very funny here. Rem was so good (and cute) she sold out the entire inventory except for a few appas.
The shop owner appreciated the business but felt devastated compared to Rem.
40:01
"Once he gets to the village he'll be fine."
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
1:27:19
"El Huma!"
"Magnificent!"
What Rem did here is a lot cooler that it looks. The LN explained it.
She used the blood from the body her hand was stuck in, froze it, and impaled the other two in the air.
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AND roll credits.
One of the all time great moments in anime.
I like Lightbringer series and Sanderson books. Glad to hear that from you.
Paused at 32:23.
There was no offered olive branch to be spit on.
Crush clearly gave an ultimatum... do this or else is clearly one.
That being said Subaru can effect nothing if he trys nothing. given the nature of his power it is sensible to sac a life or 2 in order to learn the things you need to know to form proper stratigem.
I would say that if he had stayed and gotten healed and Emilia alone survived the atk... pretty sure she would in fact feel worse than if Subaru saved her by breaking a promise.
Since she actually cares about others.
Still tough call as to what is the morally better option.
Subaru is at a deadlock, between a rock and a hard place. Something needs to change. I find what you said near the end about him needing to speak more tactfully to Reinhard, speak more carefully to Ferris and Crusch, or maybe even talking to Julius to be true, but also empty. If, for example, Subaru did do these things for the sake of escaping the situation he's in, I feel that would be unsatisfying. It wouldn't feel genuine. He would just be speaking to Julius in hopes of making up for the sake of receiving help for his situation, not from an actual desire to make up and become a better person. In my mind, that cycles back to the discussion at the beginning of this video, about video game characters and quests. It feels the same to me if you look at if from the perspective of "Ok, Subaru and Rem can't do this alone, they need allies, so Subaru needs to be a better person and talk to people better, make up with some people, etc etc." It's not that you're wrong, they definitely need allies and help, but doing it from the perspective of needing help instead of genuine desire to be better, make up and improve oneself feels.....empty to me.
I take Wilhelm words as seeing that Subaru isn't really doing all those sparring to actually strengthen himself, it's just obligatory actions to show others and lie to himself that he is "working hard", when in fact he is just running away from his frustrations.
Regarding Rem's words when fighting cultists, it is exactly as it seems, once they cut off Ram's horn Rem as person mentally stuck in one place, losing real reason to live. When Subaru came and made her "reignite", feel alive and finally move forward - he became Rem's reason to die for, her true passion and special person.
Also I don't know if you missed it, but when Subaru first encounters cultist on that road, they just bowed to him, later they kidnapped him instead of killing. Hence maybe his dense witch smell commands important presence and authority to other cultist, Betelgeuse even wondered if Subaru is Pride's Archbishop.
While it seemed obvious to me who is that giant creature in the end of ep 15 due to the voice and vibe I get why it might not initially click with others.
The first thing this episode always makes me remember is The Red Wedding
And, finished the PiP. Re: Zero season 1 episode 15 is, and will always be, one of the grandest, most horrid, mosr reactable episode of anime ever. Idgaf if anyone disagrees with me. It is cinema the like of which countless movie and television show could only ever yearn to approach halfway.
I still cry or weep every time Rem dies in his arms.
I still sweat with outrage every time I see those vengeful eyes of Subaru's. I still gawk at the art that is those end credits.
I am overjoyed at seeing Teeaboo react to this.
One thing I really thought was interesting was why Petelgeuse was labeled/written as the archbishop of sloth. When we think of symbolisms of sloth, Petelgeuse's actions and his way of speaking doesn't really correlate. But the more I thought about it, the more it kind of makes sense in these episodes.
Kind of like how a cynic person can point out other peoples cynicism due to the nature of being one, Petelgeuse can point out other people's slothfulness, as we see him do many times throughout his monologues, especially labeling Subaru's slothfulness and Rem's inability to reach Subaru at the end. This makes Petelgeuse a perfect antagonist for Subaru. Petelgeuse not only inhabits the sin of sloth, but by doing so, he sees the emotional weaknesses in others, which allows him to, figuratively, be at a level above Subaru.
At an even greater point, much like how many people who are "street smart" can detect cynicism/narcissism/malice in others but they themselves aren't cynical/narcissistic/malevolent, I think Subaru must overcome this by integrating the Slothfulness of himself, while also not being enveloped by it. Much like the saying: "You can understand others by understanding yourself", I believe Subaru must overcome the inner conflicts and turmoils before handling a much greater outside foe like Petelgeuse, Because much like a naive person will always lose to a cynic, a cynic will always lose to the people who are capable of being cynic, but choose to not be.
Oof, as someone with allergies as well, I can relate. Welcome back Tee, glad to hear it's better for you where you're at!
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Ahh to see two of our best boys in differing circumstances having Season 2 in mind is both invigorating and saddening. I literally FIST PUMPED into the air the minute I saw Otto lmao. Just look at him! OTTOO! And then there is our boy Geuse...Man, that speech is a double hitter for both Subaru and himself...Truly slothful ain't it?
EDIT: Also, now that I have time to think about it, if Betelgeuse is asking about Archbishop Pride that means Pride is on the run or has parted themselves from the cult. Now that is curious cause Pride has yet to appear in the this show. Who are they and assuming they have parted, why have they done so? Very very curious...
The only difference between murder and manslaughter is intention, and there's a good reason each carries a very different sentence in most of the world
Trapped in a pit of self-denial of his own self-loathing for his own mistakes he cannot admit to...
In his state of tunnel vision, All the good advice, good information, Good tips wash over him unrecognized.
Hearing without listening....
58:20 Wilhelm, who's respect he had earned looks into those eyes again.... And sees a lost cause, a man beyond hope. Therefore further instruction would be wasteful. Not just the eyes of a man who has seen death but the eyes of a man marching toward death.
1:40:46 This is very easy to understand. Many people have a reason to live. Many people have a reason to fight, even to kill... But who or what are you willing to die for? Rem says it... then proves it. 😱
So where can we go from here?
Down.
How far?
YES.
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My brain TREMBLES !!
(Monogatari lesson: Never accept offers to play Twister.)
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Honestly I get it... when would he have the allowance in schedule; but the first thing he should of done is deep dive research his own ability.
My point being is that he desperately needs what determines his save points.
That is the most crucial element of his ability and not knowing how to not be blind sinded by it is a horrendous weakness.
Cannot avoid the loss of a limb if you restart after recovery from amputation.
Second to that is HOW he got to this mad world. I mean seriously blink and there? How do you not find that sinister in the least.
Drasilmeyer eyes and face for sure.
Just to give my take on the parts you were unsure of.
I took Wilhelm's comments on Subaru as him noticing Subaru's lack of willingness to genuinely fight. In the scene before that with Crusch, we see him seemingly come to the conclusion that what he can do for Emilia is use his Return by Death ability (It's "something only he can do"), and he's locked in on that idea. Even though Wil obviously has no idea about that ability, I'm guessing he noticed that Subaru's will to live wasn't there anymore, since his mind was already made up.
As far as Rem's comment about Subaru being her reason to die, I'm pretty sure it's as simple as having the desire to risk your life/be willing to die in order to protect the one(s) you love. Nothing too complex.
And yeah, I definitely feel like these are the episodes that solidifies Subaru going down the wrong path, since he doubles down on his mistakes, even while apparently being aware that they're wrong since he asks Rem if he's pathetic. Deep down, he knows he's being unsightly, yet he can't help but feel like RBD gives him the power to fix anything and that he should be acknowledged for for all of the pain that he's gone through to get them here. The closest we get to sympathizing with him is when he sees how Emilia is treated just for being a half-elf, and she tells him how can she understand when he doesn't explain, while not explaining to him her problems. But that doesn't excuse the actions he's taken thus far or his attitude towards the consequences of those actions.
When Petelgeuse was introduced i also thought that shouldn't he be slothful if he represents sloth but answer to this doubt gets revealed later in the story, Can't wait for ep 18
As for Rem saying that he is her reason to die unfortunately she never overcame her inferiority complex she had with her sister, she only went from idolizing and being blinded by her sister, omitting her defects to doing it with Subaru, you can see in the bed scene how she knows that Subaru is wrong, but she refuses to believe it and that adds fuel to the fire, although it seems romantic to many that she gives her life for him, to me it seems sad and that she never really got to overcome her inferiority complex and servitude.
Great reaction and discussion,no power ups for subaru :) many were wishing back in 2016 for subaru is going to get some power up but nothing happened :)
Loved your ep 14 reaction and discussion more for some reason.i just like -ve analysis of characters its done very rarely in anime and let alone this well.
Slight thing not a you problem its mine it just irks me a little when people say subaru to go die...etc teaboo was the last person i was thinking of doing that...but thing is he doesn't want to die he might think he wants to but when it comes to it he doesn't want to die its not an easy thing to do mentally, i think he's still viewing series as very plot driven where he solves mystery..etc by dying little bit.
but even then speaking for logical stand point of view it doesn't make sense for subaru to just die, because he still doesn't know how it power works its big risk still we don't know it its total no of lives,or few revive tokens per checkpoint,how checkpoint updates..etc I mean maybe its RZ anime fault for not emphasizing enough or too much trust in audience
Be careful with spoilers in comments it was fine before dunno what happened this ep, i guess some people can't contain their excitement and big fandom in general attracts all sort of folks.
Episode 15 is when Rem became best girl to me.
She'd take a grenade for ya... and now I think Subaru would do the same.
If you believe suicide requires courage then I think that is Rems point.
The other way I can see it; is as a devotion rank. She puts his life above her own and since only her sis was that great before it has meanning.
Love this big brain discussion especially for re zero, and im a new subber so yeah 😂
Oh, Ed Psychultrists shoutout?
To me Re : Zero is ultimately a discussion on the human condition.
In all our fervor to understand the human mind and its emotions, we forget to realize that we are human. To put it in perspective, A cow doesn't need to think that its a cow, it just is. This acknowledgement that we belong to a particular species is missing amongst the swathes of individualists in the modern world.
People forget every human comes with an innate ability just like how a cow produces milk. It is our ability to work together as social creatures and make it out of any scenario presented. Re Zero is the same, no matter how horrifying the scenarios are, human tenacity will find a way. There is nothing impossible for us.
In post modern media where a lot of discussion is misanthropic and hostile to human flaws, Re : Zero chooses to believe that we can overcome evil incarnate ( Seven Sins) and truly become HUMAN.
How far do you know of Re Zero btw? I was gonna mention a funny little thing about your last line haha.
@EmmanQuinones5234 I've read up to arc 5.
These two episodes.... They changed my view of the series
Really love these episodes. They’re iconic. I wanted to piggy back off of some of the topics you brought up with that comment at the beginning of the episode. Besides Love, Truth, Mental Health, Memory, Fate, social snd economic politics, Interpersonal relationships, etc. one of the biggest themes/topics in this series is how it plays with and deconstructs and explores gender roles and identity/expression, and how that plays into this being an isekai/fantasy story in general. Obv you already talked about how Subaru had certain expectations of how this world would be based on his own experiences with media, but that includes how women and men specifically fit into that. In a lot of other series, especially isekai, the way women are treated is questionable at best. Whether it be by lacking character traits and only existing for the MC, or being SA’ed by the MC and it gets played off as a gag. This happens with surprising frequency, and even great isekai fall into this trap very often. And it never really gets pointed out as bad behavior. But from the moment Subaru enters this world, that is not the reality for him as the “main character.” All the women are stronger than him, they don’t put up with his BS, they are the ones who are elected for political power, and they certainly don’t exist for his convenience. And after ep 13, and continuing into 14, you realize that all the little comments Subarus been making about men and women’s roles since the first episode are not in fact going to be ignored, and are a fundamental part of his flaws. This is reflected in the knights and other men around him as well, through various means. Felix is an interesting one though, as it starts to bring in the themes of identity and expression that are explored later in the series (novel readers know). And usually, with a character like Felix, they’d be played as a joke, or as a fetish. It’s played as neither. And this is actually super significant when you remember the genre, and its reputation. There’s a lot to say abt Betelgeuse in regards to these themes, as he acts like a foil and parallel to Subaru, as do all the antagonists of the series, but that’ll be for later in the season. So yeah, all of this to say, Subaru is an extremely layered and complex character, as is everyone else. I love them all. Can’t wait to see your thoughts on the upcoming episodes.
Something that really struck me on this watch-through was episode 14 and the very abrupt change in Subaru's mentality ... and how deeply selfish both are.
Episode 14 starts off with Subaru's pride being severely wounded, and him attempting to flail about, trying desperately to find some sort of solace to preserve what sense of pride and sense of "rightness" to his actions that he can ... and is failing miserably. He ignores and drives away those that are attempting to help him. He deludes himself that he's working hard to improve himself when all he's doing is spinning his wheels and just putting in effort against something that will not yield tangible results, like trying to push against a brick wall.
And then he has drinks with Crusch, who gives gives him really useful advice ... but he latches onto the wrong things. Crusch is basically telling him to stop moping around, spinning your wheels, and instead of toiling fruitless actually THINK about what will solve the problem and then do THAT. However, what Subaru seems to take from it is her saying "I see the good and valuable things in you," and "you need to do the thing YOU can do to fix the proble." The concept of a hero doing "what only they can do" is a fairly common theme and trope in shonen stories (which Subaru at this point still thinks he's in), and so Cruchs' "encouragement" and "support" in him being the main character who WILL be able to right the wrongs in the way only he is able to is pretty much Subaru falling into his old "main character" mindset, doubling down on what was his problem in the first place.
And Wilhelm, the next day, recognizes this. Subaru is much more energetic and gung-ho, and it FEELS like he's making progress ... but he's not. He's just putting more energy into pushing against the brick wall, convinced that if he's plucky enough and BELIEVES enough it'll move. And so Wilhelm calls it off because he sees that Subaru isn't dedicating himself towards self improvement but instead is set on re-affirming his old path of pushing against the wall.
And Subaru's misunderstanding of Crusch's advise and intent is also what leads to the sense of betrayal when she tells him that if he leaves they'll then be enemies (because of course they will ... she and Emilia are rivals for the throne, regardless of how much they respect or possibly even like each other). Subaru's concept of what an ally is, and having mis-interpreted her sound advice of problem solving through critical thinking as simple affirmation of "specialness" and worth that she's supporting and rooting for, the fact that she calls him on his bullshit and lays out reality feels to him like a slap in the face and that everything she told him previously was a lie.
But the REAL major turning point is when he reaches the village. On the journey there, he has psyched himself up as the hero, THE ONE who can save the day, whose actions and decisions alone will determine how things play out. He's the hero, and now that he's set his resolve and determination, even against the nay-sayers and doubters, he WILL make things right and then Emilia willfinally see how much she needs him. He has placed EVERYTHING upon his own agency, and will take all the credit when it eventually goes his way.
And then he sees the horror of the seemingly insurmountable force that is the witch's cult. "This isn't what I wanted," runs through his head, followed by the repeated line, "it's not my fault. It's not my fault." Because. If you get it into your head that your agency is all that matters, that your will and choices determine the outcome of fate, then that means it IS your fault when things go horribly wrong. And when faced with the sort of carnage in front of him, finally realizing how powerless and weak he is that he would have no chance in stopping any of this, he selfishly and desperately runs away from the responsibility he was placing upon himself.
And, to be fair, this WASN'T his fault... not really. But it shatters the delusion he had that, so long as he is there, he'll be able to solve the problem. His "main character" syndrome is shattered, and instead he runs away. However, as is pointed out, his slothfulness, his lack of action, also leads to disaster ... so that's not really an option either. And now, we see something new in Subaru's eyes ... and time will tell if that will be enough.
Sorry for long rant, but ... I think that's pretty common for these videos.
DESU!
ah shiiieet hes got to the episode
To be Sloth is to not act.
Despite his animate nature... has he done anything at all loving?
He talks constantly about his precepts of love and his belief in whatever; but has he ACTED in ways that line up?
He is an inversion on the common consensus of what the sin is... by imboding it to the T.
Sloth is more about what your not doing... then what your currently doing.
In that respect Beetlejuice is always doing the things that are not leading toward his goals... that is to say since he always talks about loving stuff; he instead acts in hate. He talks about Sloth constantly... yet he is never still. Sloth kills through hypocracy and inattention.
Why did the Slothful person starve to death?
Because he never TRIED to eat. All the beans and Barely and water he could need along with enough cooking stuff to make it... yet dies of starvation because they chose to not cook.
Honestly I think Subaru was always closer to Envy for me.
At least I see his actions being more covetous then Prideful.
He want Emilia because she is something greener on the other side. So close yet so far away 100% of the time.
Any time so far he has seen others have something he coveted he's been snarky and if people like the children give him the time of day he is not gracious or appreciative because its still not hs desire.
I am sure that if he is not Envy then he is Pride.
the part where he or she says this is wrong i get that very much and i seen the dynamic plot was good but you are right how do you see that idea of the hero that is so it splits between the anihero and the hero all that the same time and i see it in the kids too
Psychologically speaking he is a bit correct... after all when he dies he gets another try.
Its still logical at that depth.
It becomes irrational as he centers things on his POV and needs and wants.
No one else could save Emilia 100% guarantee included. they'd all die before finding a solution if its a matter of riot or war or what not.
No one can know enough to know when to do things and such... Subaru can because he returns by death.
I believe our expected norms cannot apply to some one so hard to keep dead... that is to say Subaru should not be seen as human any longer since death is not permanent to him.
From our POV sure I agree he is nuts.
I hope you'll do more double episodes, seems to be a good pace so far. Especially since some episodes make more sense if you watch them back to back like 14 & 15.
here we fuckign goooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe you are misunderstanding the usage of strength.
Wilhelm was using the broadest form of the term.
If one has no will to improve why should he bother. After all whats the purpose of becoming strong?
Is it not to protect the weak in someone as gentlemanly as he seems to be.
if you dont remember beatrice said that the witch of envy devoured all other witches of the sin
love from thailand teeaboo XD
There are no wonds i can use to express how much i love the idea of Subaru overcoming his Pride filled wrong mindset with yet another mindset by filling it with Wrath. He doesn't have the maturity to accept her argument with Emilia was his fault and he couldn't keep blaming Emilia for it but now he has the perfect scapegoat he can blame everything on and focus on. It is beautiful.
0:52 no shit
One thing to take note of is the eyes. The anime makes very good use of animation and color around the eyes the let you know how a character is thinking or feeling, At the end, you may not have noticed, but the light in Subaru's eyes took an unnerving color.
teaboo don't read the comments on RZ unless something important which can get filtered through one mod or on discord...its much better exp going in blind without anyone hinting,....whae people see in the series is all over the place
also some people from other fandoms try to ruin people's RZ experience on purpose, being sly here and there.
1:21:15 ohh, Hi Zanoba
damn zanoba's design just might have been inspired by geuse
yayayayayay!!
I am surprized that despite watching the movie you do not know the form; and despite having heard the voice many times before not recognizing who it is... I mean we know a cat of many forms.
i feel like people being way to harsh (anyone who first time viewing rezero) on subaru. literally at this point we dont know much about subaru. atleast he never try to grope an underage child (sorry)
Hey, he is OUR underage groper okay?! Lol jkjk (Im an MT fan but I understand the dislike so its understandable and for me, I think it is fine)
But as Tee said it kinda is understandable as to why people would turn away from him...but me being me, I like giving people the benefit of the doubt and with Subaru I gave him the chance that he would overcome this ugliness inside of him and become a better person becoming more ya know? Hence I stuck with him and heck, him being at the bottom is what made me root for him hence why I am here now, rewatching all of this haha.
@@EmmanQuinones5234 sorry i just couldnt stand people hate subaru for being just a d1ck (i mean without context here for now sure it is fine, but the amount of hate he gets in the community really ticks me off, but Rudeus gets away with it. IM NOT SAYING HE IS BAD CHARACTER PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTOOD XD)
Well the fight was not meaningless.
It was a matter of pride which simply means that its value is limited not nonexistent.
Horrible idea all the same.
Thank you for just calling him "Beetle-Juice".
You WOULD NOT BELIEVE how many people simply CANNOT pronounce his name correctly, despite watching the entire show.
I'd swear the japanese phonetics have to be some kind of memetic filter preventing english speakers from realizing that they know exactly how to pronounce his name, if I didn't know any better.
I'm grateful you have the sense to not call him "Beetle Geese" or "Beetle Guise". I'm not joking.
Also, the "Petelgeuse vs Betelgeuse" naming is a bit of a weird thing.
I'd explain it if I could, but according to the author there's a reason behind it that, if I'm recalling correctly, hasn't been revealed or addressed yet.
In the midst of a emotional impactful scene there is always a mofo tryna be all pragmatic and shit
a) Subaru has main character syndrome and treats the world like a video game
b) Subaru should just kill himself to quickload at the slightest inconvenience like it's a video game
pick both
Who are you implying?
Any idea when you are going to react to Jobless Reincarnation again?