Nice video. Definitely great to support my understanding of the notes. A lot of people get confused that 1 note = 1 to 2 points, 2 notes = 3 to 4 points, and 3 notes = 5 to 6 as it is never stated so in the game. To share some insight, I usually only did stat boosting activities at night time as most social links are after school only, so movies and afternoon work was usually never an option for me. At the beginning, I went to wakatsu, wild duck, and hagakure for the two notes, but I wondered why the arcades also gave the same notes despite being more expensive as I forgot about the point difference between notes. I was loosely following a guide when I realized I was behind because I did the cheaper option. So definitely focus on arcades at the beginning to get the most points out of your time, but the big thing is when you unlock the hagakure bowl and seafood platter for 4 points as they are cheaper but locked to certain ranks in your social stats. Follow the golden hand hunting strategy video on this channel for easy no-effort money farm! Edit: fyi, following this method after messing up a bit at the beginning, I am at 6 courage, 5 charm, and 4 academics in the middle of july.
I had no idea about the note points! I just have one question, I had heard donating 10k to the shrine gave 3 but I only seemed to get 2 notes? And like you said, the arcade seemed to give the same notes as the others. So do you mean the arcade is giving 4 points instead of the 3 I assume you get from the others? This is really a big deal that people should know about, I had no idea and I've played p5 before. I'm realising now when they said it gave 3, then 2 notes was correct for 3 points. So silly.
Anybody know the stats on the part time jobs? They give one note in two different stats each. Are they giving 2 points to one stat and 1 point to another, or just straight 1 point to both stats every time? If they can give a total of three points, then they'd clearly be the best alternative to doing the Arcade when they're available, especially super early on before you can grind out Tartar Sauce efficiently. (If you're playing Merciless, best to delay your first voluntary excursion until at least after you can buy police station equipment on discount and grab some Social Links along the way, so it would be helpful knowing how much of a dent in Social Ranks progress doing the jobs during that time actually is.)
Same I was farming the game shop 6 charm and courage and 4 academics I also heard you don’t need anything above 4 in academics for school but you need genius for Mitsukur
as for a person who's brand new into Persona games and this one particular is my first one, this guide and the comments are pretty very enriching. Thank y'all so much!!
By the way, eating sea food (second plate ) in Wakatsu restaraunt gives u same amount of academic points as the playn arcade. Notes above ur head doesnt show u all information about amount of point u get. 1 note means u got 1-2 points 2 notes 2-4 points and 3 notes 5+ points And i found dis , some guy calculated amount of points u get Library +2 Staying awake +2 Eating Wakatsu +3 (first plate) Eating Wakatsu +4 (second plate, charm needed) Study with team +4 Arcade +4
For the people confused about how the point system works, notes represent 1 to 2 points until you get 3. The arcade gives 4 points from 2 notes, which is why it costs more than other options.
@@bestgamer-1st73 2 points is one note. You won’t be able to tell exactly how many you got, but you can make an assumption based on the note count. So if you get two notes, you can assume that you got 3 or 4 points.
@@bestgamer-1st73 if it's one note, then it's 1 to 2 points. 2 notes is 3 to 4 points. It is not possible to tell what the points are without looking at datamined information for each social stat event.
Both the basic and secret meals give 2 notes which suggest the basic meal gives 3 points and the secret meal gives 4 points. So if the secret meal is available it's better to get the secret meal then pay extra at the arcade.
For the food shops the basic meal and the secret meal both give 2 notes. That must mean the basic meal gives 3 points and the secret meal gives 4 points. So if the secret meal is available then it's better to eat the secret meal then play at the arcade.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that once you unlock the Temperance Major arcana card in Tartarus, it will increase the amount of the next stat you raise after that night.
I Was hitting every stat. Currently for me 7/3 in game. Lvl 4 knowledge Lvl 5 courage Lvl 4 charm. The game is pretty long so i should be ok. Good info mate
That's my question too. The academics quiz gives you 2 notes. But the seafood platter at the strip mall gives you 2 notes as well. Unless there's like a hidden point within the 2 notes from the arcade, don't really see the point in spending 3k ¥ when you can just spend 900¥.
@@alexanderluna4598 No, the Ramen shops and wilduck burger in the strip mall are all available at night, some are too crowded to eat at sometimes but they're open
@@alexanderluna4598 you're partially correct. Depending on the day, either the ramen place or wildduck burger can be too crowded to enter at night. They boost charm and courage respectively. They're never both closed at the same day. One of them is always open if the other is closed, so you can plan accordingly. But I've yet to see the academic boosting seafood restaurant next to the ramen place ever be crowded at night. I've only played till June so far, but it's always available to go and eat at night.
So I guess I'm doing fine, it's my first persona and my social stats are all level five in the beginning of August, that's pretty good right? I didn't follow any guide so I'm actually proud of myself lol
Idk if reload has ng+ yet but if it does im going to do my usual method of neglecting half of my s links other than chariot/strength/star and then purposely getting the first option for a bad ending and then using ng+ with all my social stats maxed to worry about maxing all the other s links in ng+. I know im bad but still its what i like to do.
@@KDThreeSixty all good. Great video! You wouldn't happen to have a boss guide would you? Like what persona's to fuse for and prep up for the next Full Moon. Like, recommended level, how much time to spend in the Tarturus leading up to the moon, what damage types to focus on getting, what debuffs/buffs to aim for, for each full moon boss. Or maybe one of the same for each Tarturus Floor boss. Sorry for the long message, just an idea. Us players, playing on hard mode or the one above that need all the prep and tips we can get.
I wish these guides would say if the activities consistently give 1, 2, or 3 points toward a social stat. If the arcade only gives 2 points, aren't you better off going to a restaurant? If the arcade can sometimes give 3 points, I'd agree, but I haven't seen that nor have any guide suggested that's possible.
Each note is 1 or 2 points. 1=1-2. 2=3-4. 3=5 or more. Arcade is 4 points which is why it costs more than other places that give 2 notes. The notes should probably just be replaced with a number because they’re misleading.
@@KDThreeSixty Would that mean that the secret menus at the restaurants are 4 points then? I was wondering why they were still just two notes even though they're supposed to be better than the base meal.
Some tips you may've forgotten: - The Temperance Tarot: That increases your Social Stats that you can gain AFTER going to Tartarus. You need to pick this up during Shuffle Time. - Part-Time Jobs: = Chagall Cafe is from Monday to Wednesday Night, busier on Tuesday. It gives +1 to Charm AND Courage AND you get paid. (:P) During Tuesdays, it'll be busier and so, I believe, you get +2 to Charm AND Courage, but if I'm wrong, don't quote me on that. = Be Blue V is from Monday to Friday After School. It gives you +1 to Charm AND Knowledge.
Atlus really dropped the ball with this note system. They give you no indication that the two notes you get at the arcade are actually more points compared to the two notes you get from restaurants. Why not just visually display the actual number of notes!?! WHYY ATLUS??
A few questions- is it possible to check how close you are to rank up like the bathroom in persona 5? Is there a reason to do arcade over others? Do the stat music notes for different activities count for different amounts internally if both methods give two notes? Is there a way to check your current point progression for social stats? Sorry it’s a lot of questions but it’s kind of frustrating not knowing how much progress I’m actually making until a rank up.
There is no method to check closeness that I’ve discovered yet. Arcade gives the most points for charm and courage unless you have software that could give you more points. Think of the notes as intervals of two points. One note=1 or 2, 2 notes=3 or 4, 3 notes is 5 or 6.
@@ligma334 that’s what I was trying to get across yes. They both give two notes but one costs less so why is arcade better? If I had the internal point values it would be easier to tell but we don’t making cheaper usually better.
It’s hard to tell if I’m actually making progress with how it’s designed if that makes any sense. It’s definitely cool, but if I could have the numbers I would feel better about it I guess.
Is this a good idea: max out all social stars first and do all social links after? I’m in June 15 rn and I max out academics and rank 3 for both courage and charm. My social links are average 2-3 and the highest is 7 for Kaz
Well, i'm not an expert, but from what i've seen online it's better to progress your social links first because of the bonus in tartarus and the limited time frame of every character, as you can basically level up any stat any day but not any social link any day
Basically Do social link at daytime, social stat at night time. Focus on school social link first, only do "non-school" social when that is the only option. Also some tips: don't skip link episodes cause they are missable just do them the first time they offer, make sure to spend time doing dorm activity with your friend cause that will unlock their passive ability.
@@MimicsND what is dorm activity and social ep? I don’t know or prolly forgot about that.😅Is the episodes where they text u to hangout? Also thankfully I have one saved that is me doing social links at day and other at night. I think imma progress and do one save which I originally did (max out stats) and one that u guys told me to do. One save for Yukari and one for Mitsuru romance path cus I ain’t gonna cheat and not a scumbag
@@suiyri_doma7132 >Dorm activities is when ur teammates ask u to do certain stuff with them like reading book, planting, watching TV, Cooking. >Link episode is social link for male teammates, you will see exclamation mark when this available.
@@mauro6094 i start with courage until rank 2, then knowledge, then charm. As long as you get courage to rank 2 first so you can go in the club, you’ll be fine.
wow July. I had them up pretty quick but I slacked a bit on Academics once I hit 5 - then it took longer than I thought to hit 6. I think I maxed mine sometime in August when I hit 6 in Academics.
So am I supposed to bend my points to upgrade my stats or do they upgrade themselves from 1 to 5 cuz I've been getting points towards them and it all keeps saying it's still one charm one courage and one what if the other one is
So how do the secret menus at the restaurants compare to the normal ones? It’s kinda hard to figure out because you see 2 stat points for every activity available
I believe they give the same amount of points as the arcade. So you could use those if you want to save money. I didn’t mention them because of how often you can access them
Use the fortune teller to increase the odds of hands spawning. Keep going between a set of floors to farm them. I have an easy money and exp farming guide that shows you how to do it
You need them high enough to start certain people’s social links. The girls from your dorm require one of each of them to be maxed before you can start a social link with them.
Meh, there is a lot of bad info here. The thing about academics being 3x more expensive point-wise has already been proven false. It requires more, but not that much. There's more you have off as well, but I won't waste my time any further. Maybe do a little bit more research in the future before posting videos with errors.
You can say whatever you want, but at the end of the day, this video has offered value to many people, and other people are offering their two cents to offer more value to everyone else as well. This comment on the other hand, offers none since you decided to criticize me while being vague instead of helping patch the flaws.I should delete it tbh since this is such a waste of your time.
Bro, even if some of the info is a bit off, it was a tremendous help for me (havent played P3 since the original on PS2). Why go out of your way to say the info is bad without contributing the more accurate tips you have? Either help out a fellow Persona fan or stop complaining lol
Nice video. Definitely great to support my understanding of the notes. A lot of people get confused that 1 note = 1 to 2 points, 2 notes = 3 to 4 points, and 3 notes = 5 to 6 as it is never stated so in the game.
To share some insight, I usually only did stat boosting activities at night time as most social links are after school only, so movies and afternoon work was usually never an option for me. At the beginning, I went to wakatsu, wild duck, and hagakure for the two notes, but I wondered why the arcades also gave the same notes despite being more expensive as I forgot about the point difference between notes. I was loosely following a guide when I realized I was behind because I did the cheaper option.
So definitely focus on arcades at the beginning to get the most points out of your time, but the big thing is when you unlock the hagakure bowl and seafood platter for 4 points as they are cheaper but locked to certain ranks in your social stats. Follow the golden hand hunting strategy video on this channel for easy no-effort money farm!
Edit: fyi, following this method after messing up a bit at the beginning, I am at 6 courage, 5 charm, and 4 academics in the middle of july.
You’re right, I kinda wish they would replace the notes with a number.
I had no idea about the note points! I just have one question, I had heard donating 10k to the shrine gave 3 but I only seemed to get 2 notes? And like you said, the arcade seemed to give the same notes as the others. So do you mean the arcade is giving 4 points instead of the 3 I assume you get from the others? This is really a big deal that people should know about, I had no idea and I've played p5 before. I'm realising now when they said it gave 3, then 2 notes was correct for 3 points. So silly.
It seems to be random, that's why I recommend saving before donating to the shrine@@rencunin
Anybody know the stats on the part time jobs? They give one note in two different stats each. Are they giving 2 points to one stat and 1 point to another, or just straight 1 point to both stats every time? If they can give a total of three points, then they'd clearly be the best alternative to doing the Arcade when they're available, especially super early on before you can grind out Tartar Sauce efficiently. (If you're playing Merciless, best to delay your first voluntary excursion until at least after you can buy police station equipment on discount and grab some Social Links along the way, so it would be helpful knowing how much of a dent in Social Ranks progress doing the jobs during that time actually is.)
Same I was farming the game shop 6 charm and courage and 4 academics I also heard you don’t need anything above 4 in academics for school but you need genius for Mitsukur
We all know why you choose to up academics😤😏
I agree man the sun arcana is peak
Mitsuru is best girl
as for a person who's brand new into Persona games and this one particular is my first one, this guide and the comments are pretty very enriching.
Thank y'all so much!!
Glad I could help
By the way, eating sea food (second plate ) in Wakatsu restaraunt gives u same amount of academic points as the playn arcade.
Notes above ur head doesnt show u all information about amount of point u get. 1 note means u got 1-2 points 2 notes 2-4 points and 3 notes 5+ points
And i found dis , some guy calculated amount of points u get
Library +2
Staying awake +2
Eating Wakatsu +3 (first plate)
Eating Wakatsu +4 (second plate, charm needed)
Study with team +4
Arcade +4
For the people confused about how the point system works, notes represent 1 to 2 points until you get 3. The arcade gives 4 points from 2 notes, which is why it costs more than other options.
How do i know if it's 2 or 3 or 4? It's look the same to me!
Thanks for tips
@@bestgamer-1st73 2 points is one note. You won’t be able to tell exactly how many you got, but you can make an assumption based on the note count. So if you get two notes, you can assume that you got 3 or 4 points.
@@bestgamer-1st73 if it's one note, then it's 1 to 2 points. 2 notes is 3 to 4 points. It is not possible to tell what the points are without looking at datamined information for each social stat event.
Both the basic and secret meals give 2 notes which suggest the basic meal gives 3 points and the secret meal gives 4 points. So if the secret meal is available it's better to get the secret meal then pay extra at the arcade.
For the food shops the basic meal and the secret meal both give 2 notes. That must mean the basic meal gives 3 points and the secret meal gives 4 points. So if the secret meal is available then it's better to eat the secret meal then play at the arcade.
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that once you unlock the Temperance Major arcana card in Tartarus, it will increase the amount of the next stat you raise after that night.
I Was hitting every stat. Currently for me 7/3 in game.
Lvl 4 knowledge
Lvl 5 courage
Lvl 4 charm.
The game is pretty long so i should be ok. Good info mate
Yeah you’ll max everything in no time.
Dude im on 6/something below 20..
Lvl 4 knowledge
Lvl 5 charm
Lvl 3 or 4 courage
Am I playing the game wrong..?
@@ehethan nah you're where you should be. Not even half way thru game. Plenty of time to max stats
Kinda slow tbh I was 6/6/4 in July 8th
Why is the arcade game better? For me it gives 2 points but the ramen also gives me 2 points of academics but costs only 900
That's my question too. The academics quiz gives you 2 notes. But the seafood platter at the strip mall gives you 2 notes as well. Unless there's like a hidden point within the 2 notes from the arcade, don't really see the point in spending 3k ¥ when you can just spend 900¥.
Wondering the same thing
Its not better but arcade is available at night while the shops are only open during the day.
@@alexanderluna4598 No, the Ramen shops and wilduck burger in the strip mall are all available at night, some are too crowded to eat at sometimes but they're open
@@alexanderluna4598 you're partially correct. Depending on the day, either the ramen place or wildduck burger can be too crowded to enter at night. They boost charm and courage respectively. They're never both closed at the same day. One of them is always open if the other is closed, so you can plan accordingly. But I've yet to see the academic boosting seafood restaurant next to the ramen place ever be crowded at night. I've only played till June so far, but it's always available to go and eat at night.
So I guess I'm doing fine, it's my first persona and my social stats are all level five in the beginning of August, that's pretty good right? I didn't follow any guide so I'm actually proud of myself lol
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Already?
Yeah it did
Thank you king 👑
Of course
thank you vro this my first persona game
Glad I could help!
Idk if reload has ng+ yet but if it does im going to do my usual method of neglecting half of my s links other than chariot/strength/star and then purposely getting the first option for a bad ending and then using ng+ with all my social stats maxed to worry about maxing all the other s links in ng+. I know im bad but still its what i like to do.
It is a faster way to do things
It has.
@@louislam369 yeah just made it there myself lol
thatd explain why going for prodigy platter was NOT ranking up my acedsmics haha thanks
Glad I could help
8:39 for academics, thanks for the video, but mind fixing those time stamps?
On it, thank you for telling me.
@@KDThreeSixty all good. Great video! You wouldn't happen to have a boss guide would you? Like what persona's to fuse for and prep up for the next Full Moon. Like, recommended level, how much time to spend in the Tarturus leading up to the moon, what damage types to focus on getting, what debuffs/buffs to aim for, for each full moon boss. Or maybe one of the same for each Tarturus Floor boss.
Sorry for the long message, just an idea. Us players, playing on hard mode or the one above that need all the prep and tips we can get.
@@CeJayVe I don’t have one yet, but I may give it a shot once I’m completely done with the game
I wish these guides would say if the activities consistently give 1, 2, or 3 points toward a social stat. If the arcade only gives 2 points, aren't you better off going to a restaurant?
If the arcade can sometimes give 3 points, I'd agree, but I haven't seen that nor have any guide suggested that's possible.
Each note is 1 or 2 points. 1=1-2. 2=3-4. 3=5 or more. Arcade is 4 points which is why it costs more than other places that give 2 notes. The notes should probably just be replaced with a number because they’re misleading.
@@KDThreeSixty to quote Ryuji, "FOR REAL!"
@@KDThreeSixty Would that mean that the secret menus at the restaurants are 4 points then? I was wondering why they were still just two notes even though they're supposed to be better than the base meal.
@KDThreeSixty so if you get 3 notes does that mean you get 5 or 6 points or a range of 3 to 6 points?
@warbird333 3 notes gets you 5+ points
Some tips you may've forgotten:
- The Temperance Tarot: That increases your Social Stats that you can gain AFTER going to Tartarus. You need to pick this up during Shuffle Time.
- Part-Time Jobs:
= Chagall Cafe is from Monday to Wednesday Night, busier on Tuesday. It gives +1 to Charm AND Courage AND you get paid. (:P) During Tuesdays, it'll be busier and so, I believe, you get +2 to Charm AND Courage, but if I'm wrong, don't quote me on that.
= Be Blue V is from Monday to Friday After School. It gives you +1 to Charm AND Knowledge.
I definitly used the 10k version the rng resets everytime you reload your save... which I found out when I was already rank 5
@@KDThreeSixty I reloaded my save and 9 times out of 10 it gave me the 3 points for knowledge
Bing chilling
So helpful!!
Glad I could help
it took me til early September to rank up all the stats. I can't believe how annoying academic s was to level up.
Yeah it takes forever!
Atlus really dropped the ball with this note system. They give you no indication that the two notes you get at the arcade are actually more points compared to the two notes you get from restaurants. Why not just visually display the actual number of notes!?! WHYY ATLUS??
Yeah they should just use a number instead of notes so people don't struggle to figure this stuff out
I had NO idea there was 6 in each until now lmao
Yeah I actually forgot when I started playing
A few questions- is it possible to check how close you are to rank up like the bathroom in persona 5? Is there a reason to do arcade over others? Do the stat music notes for different activities count for different amounts internally if both methods give two notes? Is there a way to check your current point progression for social stats? Sorry it’s a lot of questions but it’s kind of frustrating not knowing how much progress I’m actually making until a rank up.
There is no method to check closeness that I’ve discovered yet. Arcade gives the most points for charm and courage unless you have software that could give you more points. Think of the notes as intervals of two points. One note=1 or 2, 2 notes=3 or 4, 3 notes is 5 or 6.
Eating out though you get the same 2 notes from the arcade?
@@ligma334 that’s what I was trying to get across yes. They both give two notes but one costs less so why is arcade better? If I had the internal point values it would be easier to tell but we don’t making cheaper usually better.
It’s hard to tell if I’m actually making progress with how it’s designed if that makes any sense. It’s definitely cool, but if I could have the numbers I would feel better about it I guess.
@@ligma334 also, LIGMA? (This is your cue)
The best method is reading the max social link walkthrough 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts that's how I learned how to do it in FES
Is this a good idea: max out all social stars first and do all social links after? I’m in June 15 rn and I max out academics and rank 3 for both courage and charm. My social links are average 2-3 and the highest is 7 for Kaz
Well, i'm not an expert, but from what i've seen online it's better to progress your social links first because of the bonus in tartarus and the limited time frame of every character, as you can basically level up any stat any day but not any social link any day
Basically Do social link at daytime, social stat at night time. Focus on school social link first, only do "non-school" social when that is the only option. Also some tips: don't skip link episodes cause they are missable just do them the first time they offer, make sure to spend time doing dorm activity with your friend cause that will unlock their passive ability.
@@MimicsND what is dorm activity and social ep? I don’t know or prolly forgot about that.😅Is the episodes where they text u to hangout? Also thankfully I have one saved that is me doing social links at day and other at night. I think imma progress and do one save which I originally did (max out stats) and one that u guys told me to do. One save for Yukari and one for Mitsuru romance path cus I ain’t gonna cheat and not a scumbag
@@suiyri_doma7132 >Dorm activities is when ur teammates ask u to do certain stuff with them like reading book, planting, watching TV, Cooking.
>Link episode is social link for male teammates, you will see exclamation mark when this available.
I got all max level at July 1st
How is the order of leveling up things?
@@mauro6094 i start with courage until rank 2, then knowledge, then charm. As long as you get courage to rank 2 first so you can go in the club, you’ll be fine.
wow July.
I had them up pretty quick but I slacked a bit on Academics once I hit 5 - then it took longer than I thought to hit 6.
I think I maxed mine sometime in August when I hit 6 in Academics.
Yeah academics takes a while
Think academics takes like 3x more points than the other 2 think courage is a bit less than charm
So am I supposed to bend my points to upgrade my stats or do they upgrade themselves from 1 to 5 cuz I've been getting points towards them and it all keeps saying it's still one charm one courage and one what if the other one is
@@phantomzero2831 It will do it by itself once you have enough points
@@KDThreeSixty okay thanks
So how do the secret menus at the restaurants compare to the normal ones? It’s kinda hard to figure out because you see 2 stat points for every activity available
I believe they give the same amount of points as the arcade. So you could use those if you want to save money. I didn’t mention them because of how often you can access them
Thanks
So like can i check how much more i need?
@@kadenmohammed9425 Unfortunately no, that was only a feature in Persona 5.
Now how do we get enough money for the arcade xD
Use the fortune teller to increase the odds of hands spawning. Keep going between a set of floors to farm them. I have an easy money and exp farming guide that shows you how to do it
May i know what's the function of social stats?
You need them high enough to start certain people’s social links. The girls from your dorm require one of each of them to be maxed before you can start a social link with them.
Yukari: 6 Charm, Fuuka: 6 Courage, Mitsuru: 6 Academics
Well I saw this too late .. thanks lol could have uploaded this couple of days ago I’m pretty much done with it and I’m not gonna run this back
6 ranks? That's outrageous! Every other version of P3 didn't have more than 5.
I think is to compensate the fact there's only three social stats instead of the standard five that came after P4.
Hate to break it to ya but it’s always been 6 for p3 even in portable 😂
@@stormshuttle OH? My bad. Must of missed that somehow. 4 and 5 made it easier to tell.
It’s always been 6 ranks in 3. I actually forgot too
@KDThreeSixty I guess maxing out only 3 stats will do that to you. I played P5 first. Then P3 FES and P4 on PS3 ages ago.
Meh, there is a lot of bad info here. The thing about academics being 3x more expensive point-wise has already been proven false. It requires more, but not that much. There's more you have off as well, but I won't waste my time any further. Maybe do a little bit more research in the future before posting videos with errors.
You can say whatever you want, but at the end of the day, this video has offered value to many people, and other people are offering their two cents to offer more value to everyone else as well. This comment on the other hand, offers none since you decided to criticize me while being vague instead of helping patch the flaws.I should delete it tbh since this is such a waste of your time.
Bro, even if some of the info is a bit off, it was a tremendous help for me (havent played P3 since the original on PS2). Why go out of your way to say the info is bad without contributing the more accurate tips you have? Either help out a fellow Persona fan or stop complaining lol
Wait I thought it maxed out at 5 lol thanks for the guide!
Glad I could help!