As I always say, it's the government you pay for working against you at every turn. That is why taxation is theft. I don't voluntarily choose to contribute to a government that works against me.
you should move to the UK then. my taxes pay for my FREE healthcare. i just turned 60 which means my prescriptions are also FREE. i wouldn't move to your shithole country if you offered me a million dollars. your oligarchs treat you like serfs.
Taxation is payment for services rendered. Your government may do a lot of things you don't like, but it also provides you with a lot of goods and services that you DO want and use regularly, and could NEVER afford to acquire yourself without the aid of government (unless you're raking in well over seven figures, which we both know you aren't if you're reading this). Your government provides you with these goods and services for YEARS before it ever asks you to pay it anything, and when it does ask you to pay, it only asks you for a fraction of the value of the goods and services you have used (again, unless you're ridiculously rich). Refusing to pay your taxes is like refusing to pay for a meal you've already eaten because you found out that the restaurant owner spends his profits on things you disapprove of. That may be so, but you still owe him for the meal you gladly ate, knowing there would be a bill. So pay up. Taxation is payment for services rendered.
@@ajm5007 Stated like a net recipient. For those people in low-income status I can see they would make an argument just like you made. The amount of taxes they pay pales in comparison to the benefits that they receive. For the average middle-class who make too much money to receive government benefits such as reduced or free cost health insurance, public housing, welfare, food stamps, Medicare, WIC, and a variety of other benefits, we pay in far more than we receive in benefits from the federal government. I had one child that went to school for 12 years, but I've got to pay for public school system for my entire life. I do use the highways and Roads and pay for fuel tax and registration licensing fees, those are fair. A small amount of tax to fund fire and police, again those are fair I don't mind. On the federal level however predominantly there is only one thing funded that I would generally agree with and that's the military. That takes up about 2% of my tax money, the other $24,000 and taxes I pay every year goes to fund the lame, lazy, and or illegal amongst us. If there were one or two expenses in our federal and local budgets I didn't quite agree with I wouldn't mind it so much. But when the vast majority of the money confiscated from me goes to pay for things I absolutely 100% disagree with, it's theft.
@@ajm5007 I think somebody has perpetrated a con job on you. Let's start with the education I could have sent my daughter to private school for the entire length of her matriculation for about $60,000. I paid about $2000 a year towards property taxes that went to the schools, so about 30 years to pay the debt on my daughter's education. Which means I should have stopped paying about 5 years ago, but I'm not I'm paying for somebody else's kids now, and will be for the rest of my life. Fire and police again, yes you can indeed fund those much more efficiently and cost-effective privately oh, it has been done in different locations in the United States. One of the factors that would make this significantly less expensive is right-sizing organizations. In our County there is probably at least three times the necessary law enforcement. A great deal of that is funded by tax revenues from oil and gas industry so nobody squawks about it too much, if it was privately funded though it would be cut in a heartbeat. Your claim of $600000+ in income to pay enough taxes to equal what you get from government services extrapolates out to 15-30 Trillion a year we get in services, which would be about 5 to 10 times what the government actually spends. Or if you look at the fraud waste and abuse about 10 to 20 times the value of what we get from government. Again, the only thing that the federal government does with my money that I approve of, and benefit from for the most part is the military, and my fair share that would be $4,800. Less than a fifth of what's extorted from me every year. I challenge you to name one thing other than the military that I do benefit from that's funded by my federal income tax dollars, and is within the Constitutional purview of government.
@@rockymntnliberty You're wrong. On that, we agree. > Um, police are mostly funded my county and muncipal taxes, so you're just wrong about the oil and gas industries doing that. Perhaps in Texas and Alaska, but not in most of the country. I accounted for all that. You're simply wrong. If we DON'T account for that, the number rises to about $3M per year you'd have to make before you start paying more than you receive. I'm not counting wasted dollars as goods and services received. Not at all. I'm counting the market value of the goods and services YOU ACTUALLY USE as compared to the amount of dollars YOU PAY IN TAXES, and unless you either live in a hut in the desert completely off the grid . . . OR you make more than $600k/annum, you're NOT paying more than you receive. False. You approve of TONS of things the government does with your money. You're just ignorant of the many things it does. Like eating food that's not riddled with parasites and communicable diseases? Government does that. Like having electricity and potable water run reliably from their sources to your home? Government does that. Like knowing that if you are ever the victim of a crime, someone will act on your behalf to set things right? Government, again. Like having air that's clean enough to breathe? Like living in an area that's zoned residential rather than industrial? Like knowing that if a can of food is labeled "tomatoes" there will be actual tomatoes inside and not something else? Like sidewalks? Street lights? The nearby river NOT flooding on a regular basis? The gas station charging one set price to every customer? Like emergency rooms? Garbage pickup? Specified garbage DUMPS? Like having a GPS in your car and on your phone? Like having pharmaceuticals that actually do what it says on the label? Like having doctors who have actually been to med school and can prove it? All of those goods and services are at least partly provided by the government using tax dollars. And the amount you pay is trivially tiny compared to the amount you use. I could name HUNDREDS of such things.
There has never been and there never will be a truly democratically-elected Republic the sooner this is understood as fact the better chance we have two survive. NO THE ONLY CHANCE!! The truth shall set us free
It's not as she was not campaigning, she was only trying to have the offical recalled. The government was just trying to get her to back down anyway possible. This woman deserves a medal for what she has accomplished; I am an educated woman and would have no idea on how to get this kind of ball rolling.
I don't understand how trying to have a politician "recalled" is campaigning, she isn't running for office. She's pointing out the politicians corruption. For a private citizen to raise awareness of the need to recall an elected official isn't a campaign, it's the peoples right to peaceably assemble and to petition the government on any grievances. Again, covered by the First Amendment of the US Constitution. Thanks for looking out for the "little guy".
I agree with Greg. The acceptance of a violent ruling class is the problem here. It's not okay to threaten people with imprisonment of death for speech, failing to pay taxes, or any number of non-violent activities. No victim, no crime.
Why is there a law requiring citizens to prove their case in court for recalling an elected official before they can mount a recall effort?? The answer is simple. This law seeks to make sure that only the RICH AND POWERFUL, who can afford a court fight, can mount recall efforts. Most oppressive govt. actions can be shown to benefit a rich minority, who are pulling govt. strings behind the scenes with their money. Just follow the money trail.
There are some who stress that government is a necessary evil. Those that do seem to stress that government is necessary. They seldom realize that they are also admitting that government is, while necessary, also evil. The problem in our culture is that we have grown to tolerate far more evil than is absolutely necessary.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." --Frederic Bastiat. Economic sophisms, 2nd series (1848)
That's like saying defending your property against a thief is selfish, because if he doesn't steal your couch his kid might not eat that night. No one is hurt by my refusal to capitulate to coercion, because nobody has the right to the product of my labor. Teachers (or any other professionals) only have the right to be paid if the money is collected voluntarily.
It comes down to a question of whether voters or the courts should decide what is a "valid" reason for recalling an elected official. IMO, in a democracy, it's the VOTERS' opinion of an elected official's conduct that should matter, NOT a court's opinion. The Washington law is obviously intended to make it difficult for anyone who cannot afford a court fight to mount a recall election. We just disagree on whether that's right. So let's just agree to disagree.:)
Thanks for all that you do IJ. I hope that there comes a day that none of us will actually need your services, but for now I'm glad that yall are here to help.
@John Carosi Yeah those fascists wanting to eliminate free speech, repeal the 2nd amendment, and have the government run every facet of society are scary as fuck. Theres about 20 of them running against Trump right now. Flash fact: First cousin marriage is legal in California and they have the highest rate of consanguineous marriages in the nation. Inbred hippie
Dude.. are you REALLY so Enslaved by the two party system that you see everything according to a political party line??And you don't see anything wrong with that???Try to be an American First....
This article brings to mind the real political split in this country: between the Ruling Party (Establishment) and the Country Party (Everyone Else). A PDC exist for one overarching purpose, control of the public debate. When a Petitioner suddenly becomes classified as a candidate for some unnamed office, (Why else a campaign donation?), then that person's right to petition the government has been infringed. When such infringement comes at the hand of a govt. agency, it seems felonious.
I can understand why the people of Washington State originally wanted this law, as an attempt to counter the Citizens United decision which legalized bribery. But the legislation OVERREACTS, essentially making the legal system unavailable to anyone who DOESN’T have a Citizens United size bankroll. Since legal counsel is an absolute necessity in fighting for one’s rights, the law should AT LEAST be amended to exempt pro bono legal advice from being considered a “contribution” to a campaign. And although Robin’s PRIMARY aim was to get a recall vote passed, her SECONDARY lawsuit was to protect her OWN RIGHT to speech (and as a side effect, to protect the rights of others, INCLUDING the incumbent politician she wanted to recall!), so in a sense, limiting the help she could get in the secondary fight is limiting her right to legal SELF DEFENSE. The fight against CU should be concentrated against SELFISH special interests who are well off and just GREEDY for more; those organizations which are defending themselves and their mission from OBLIVION, and those individuals who are fighting against their own or others’ LIVES or FINANCIAL SURVIVAL, should have more leeway in accepting volunteer help.
A recall election is NOT a lawsuit, frivolous or otherwise. Usually, a recall election takes place when a substantial percentage of eligible voters sign a petition asking for it. The petition demonstrates that enough voters are dissatisfied with an elected official to justify a vote on whether he should be recalled. The courts should not be involved at all. It is NOT a legal issue. It is a case of democracy in action. The Washington law suppresses democracy.
Coercive taxation is a violation of the non-aggression principle, property-rights, and self-ownership. This is just a fact. I too want security services, arbitration services, mass education, medical care, ect. However, I recognize that these services can be provided for voluntarily without resorting to violence or threats thereof to fund and maintain state-sponsored programs. To better understand where I am coming from please consider watching the 4-minute video below. /watch?v=0ne16Le-hq4
The plaintiffs were granted a permanent injunction against the defendant preventing the defendant from requiring the plaintiff or any other political committee to report free legal services in federal civil rights lawsuits.
that would be very difficult to pull of because there's two costs you have to over come to obtain an actual net benefit: 1) is the direct cost. That money has to come from somewhere. 2) is the opportunity costs. How much extra economic activity could've resulted from the lack of capital (as a result of taxation). Number 1 is easy to handwave off but number 2 remains mostly unseen. I suspect a lot more people would have a different opinion of the tea party if they noticed it more.
Because this type of corruption is non partisan. Democrat, Republican, the alphabet soup of political parties. There will always be some form of government bullying, because people with power sometimes abuse that power. It is the job of our constitution to protect us from this. If we are able to get our voice heard.
The Libertarians have been speaking to this for over 40 years. Harder to convince someone they've been fooled, than to fool them. Liberal and conservative. Democrat and Republican are meaningless divisive terms for the same flightless ****bird.
Keep up the good work....you helping every American wether they know it or not. It's good to see the little person stand up to government tyranny. I and many other will be praying for you . Stand tall and stay tough. This country needs more citizen like you with the will to fight the good fight. God Bless You.😎
Isn't the government supposed to serve the people? Not oppress them? I wonder what George Washington and Benjamin Franklin would think seeing the way the current government is treating the people?
Man.. you hear about things like this, and you want to say.. Awesome shes winning, but then its like.. reality sets in.. and your up against the state.. and they use your tax money along with others, so basically they have this infinite coffer of ammo.. and your helping provide said ammo. It makes me sick. Really does.
That is why I like both Judicial Watch and Project Veritas since they are not afraid to go after the big bullies in government. They have stood for so many people who otherwise would not be able to fight back against the bullies from the government. These people are heroes who risk everything going up against such powerful individuals in public office. Thank you for all you do!!
This happened here in El Paso last year, but with far different outcome. There was a vote on benefits for gay couples. The majority voted against it BUT then Mayor John Cook decided he knew better so he later overturned the vote (it so happens that the city attorney was gay) Well, a prominent minister started a recall petition, in which he received about ten times the required signatures. SO the mayor & city council decide that being a minister is the same as being a business entity, which
If you just stopped defining the government as an institution which uses initiatory force, you could classify a voluntary legislative, judiciary, law enforcement, and common defense organization as a government, and then you would be a "minarchist". It's all just semantics.
You make some good points, some of which I disagree with. However, I'm weary of prolonged youtube arguments that change neither party's mind and am ready to let this one end. Thanks for your civility.
It's not a "paintbrush" statement. Can you explain how a minister who tries to recall a mayor for vetoing a measure that would deny benefits to gay couples would NOT be a bigot? (And all who signed his petition would be in the same boat.) Please answer this question logically rather than just resorting to more name calling. Thank you.
I don't know who or what is behind the Institute, I'd like to thank the institute for all they're doing. I don't have money to donate to them but if I did I'd give him a wheelbarrow full. I am metaphorically looking directly into the eyes of these dedicated public servants while saying thank you!
Every fking time I watch one of these videos my God damm blood Boils!!Then I feel like Justice is Served by the Institute!! Emotional rollar coaster with a happy ending..God Bless the IfJ!!:)
I was facing 7 years in prison Because government employees swore to false reports. They admitted to it, they received promotions. I was offered a plea deal and lost pretty much everything. That's the justice system at work.
Check out where in the Bible people of a certain region are Chastised by one of the Apostles for saying "Let us do Evil that Good may come" You're in good company Greg.
campaign for what? on the basis of this matter or any other single achievement she is not going in polls. or what else is definition of campaign in the eye of law?
The privileging of particular points of view such that they, and only they, get to call people "bigot" or "bully" or whatever... that's bigotry and bullying, because it substitutes force for discussion. Discussing the matter at this level of abstraction is impossible in most cases. The attitude seems to be "Hey, we stole the rules fair and square so SHUT UP H8R!". Pfft.
Sounds to me like she was getting a campaign contribution, and got something of value for nothing. Call a spade a spade. Why doesn't she go out and start some free enterprise and pay her own way.
NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION. WHICH WASHINGTON? DC IR STATE IF?? WHO IS THE POLITICIAN?? REGARDLESS WE NEED MORE OF THIS TYOE OF CITIZEN ACTIVISM EVERYWHERETO SAVE OUR STATES AND OUR REPUBLIC.
You've confused a recall petition with a recall election. The purpose of a recall PETITION is to show enough public interest in a recall to justify a recall ELECTION. The petition does NOT recall anybody. It just leads to an election, in which, indeed, more than 50% of voters have to approve a recall for it to take place. Why don't you read up on the recall process before expressing anymore opinions about it?
Cops film you: "WHAT ARE U HIDING?!!" "YOU MIGHT BE A TERRORIST" You film a cop "THAT DAMPENS OUR NOBLE POLICEMEN!" *charges you with interfering with police and resisting arrest*
@@orionsghost9511 That's how they get away with this shit. They create this false left-right paradigm to keep us fighting amongst ourselves instead of coming together and tarring and feathering their asses!
Perhaps because with a cartoon, detractors are less likely to make ad hominem comments about the persons involved, and have to actually think about the issue at hand.
Wait wait wait. If no one could donate more than $800 how many ppl did she have on her side? Just one. By changing the law it sounds like what you really did was just make it easier for rich ppl to start recall campaigns against politicians/elected officials they dont like and they can do it with just one rich person backing them. As an example if the lawyers cost 8000 that's only 10 ppl contributing the max amount or 100 ppl contributing 80 bucks. Idk this whole thing seems fishy. Also who cares if you were campaign contribution. You did it for free, so you contributed $0. You can't say how much a lawyer has to charge or should have charged. Again this all seems very fishy. Almost like an add for Citizens United, which is the reason only rich ppl and corporations get the laws they want passed while what the ppl want doesn't matter.
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As I always say, it's the government you pay for working against you at every turn.
That is why taxation is theft. I don't voluntarily choose to contribute to a government that works against me.
you should move to the UK then. my taxes pay for my FREE healthcare. i just turned 60 which means my prescriptions are also FREE. i wouldn't move to your shithole country if you offered me a million dollars. your oligarchs treat you like serfs.
Taxation is payment for services rendered. Your government may do a lot of things you don't like, but it also provides you with a lot of goods and services that you DO want and use regularly, and could NEVER afford to acquire yourself without the aid of government (unless you're raking in well over seven figures, which we both know you aren't if you're reading this). Your government provides you with these goods and services for YEARS before it ever asks you to pay it anything, and when it does ask you to pay, it only asks you for a fraction of the value of the goods and services you have used (again, unless you're ridiculously rich). Refusing to pay your taxes is like refusing to pay for a meal you've already eaten because you found out that the restaurant owner spends his profits on things you disapprove of. That may be so, but you still owe him for the meal you gladly ate, knowing there would be a bill. So pay up.
Taxation is payment for services rendered.
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Stated like a net recipient. For those people in low-income status I can see they would make an argument just like you made. The amount of taxes they pay pales in comparison to the benefits that they receive. For the average middle-class who make too much money to receive government benefits such as reduced or free cost health insurance, public housing, welfare, food stamps, Medicare, WIC, and a variety of other benefits, we pay in far more than we receive in benefits from the federal government. I had one child that went to school for 12 years, but I've got to pay for public school system for my entire life. I do use the highways and Roads and pay for fuel tax and registration licensing fees, those are fair. A small amount of tax to fund fire and police, again those are fair I don't mind. On the federal level however predominantly there is only one thing funded that I would generally agree with and that's the military. That takes up about 2% of my tax money, the other $24,000 and taxes I pay every year goes to fund the lame, lazy, and or illegal amongst us. If there were one or two expenses in our federal and local budgets I didn't quite agree with I wouldn't mind it so much. But when the vast majority of the money confiscated from me goes to pay for things I absolutely 100% disagree with, it's theft.
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I think somebody has perpetrated a con job on you. Let's start with the education I could have sent my daughter to private school for the entire length of her matriculation for about $60,000. I paid about $2000 a year towards property taxes that went to the schools, so about 30 years to pay the debt on my daughter's education. Which means I should have stopped paying about 5 years ago, but I'm not I'm paying for somebody else's kids now, and will be for the rest of my life.
Fire and police again, yes you can indeed fund those much more efficiently and cost-effective privately oh, it has been done in different locations in the United States. One of the factors that would make this significantly less expensive is right-sizing organizations. In our County there is probably at least three times the necessary law enforcement. A great deal of that is funded by tax revenues from oil and gas industry so nobody squawks about it too much, if it was privately funded though it would be cut in a heartbeat.
Your claim of $600000+ in income to pay enough taxes to equal what you get from government services extrapolates out to 15-30 Trillion a year we get in services, which would be about 5 to 10 times what the government actually spends. Or if you look at the fraud waste and abuse about 10 to 20 times the value of what we get from government.
Again, the only thing that the federal government does with my money that I approve of, and benefit from for the most part is the military, and my fair share that would be $4,800. Less than a fifth of what's extorted from me every year. I challenge you to name one thing other than the military that I do benefit from that's funded by my federal income tax dollars, and is within the Constitutional purview of government.
@@rockymntnliberty
You're wrong.
On that, we agree.
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Um, police are mostly funded my county and muncipal taxes, so you're just wrong about the oil and gas industries doing that. Perhaps in Texas and Alaska, but not in most of the country.
I accounted for all that. You're simply wrong. If we DON'T account for that, the number rises to about $3M per year you'd have to make before you start paying more than you receive. I'm not counting wasted dollars as goods and services received. Not at all. I'm counting the market value of the goods and services YOU ACTUALLY USE as compared to the amount of dollars YOU PAY IN TAXES, and unless you either live in a hut in the desert completely off the grid . . . OR you make more than $600k/annum, you're NOT paying more than you receive.
False. You approve of TONS of things the government does with your money. You're just ignorant of the many things it does. Like eating food that's not riddled with parasites and communicable diseases? Government does that. Like having electricity and potable water run reliably from their sources to your home? Government does that. Like knowing that if you are ever the victim of a crime, someone will act on your behalf to set things right? Government, again. Like having air that's clean enough to breathe? Like living in an area that's zoned residential rather than industrial? Like knowing that if a can of food is labeled "tomatoes" there will be actual tomatoes inside and not something else? Like sidewalks? Street lights? The nearby river NOT flooding on a regular basis? The gas station charging one set price to every customer? Like emergency rooms? Garbage pickup? Specified garbage DUMPS? Like having a GPS in your car and on your phone? Like having pharmaceuticals that actually do what it says on the label? Like having doctors who have actually been to med school and can prove it? All of those goods and services are at least partly provided by the government using tax dollars. And the amount you pay is trivially tiny compared to the amount you use.
I could name HUNDREDS of such things.
Sometimes it seems that freedom is only a facade.
There has never been and there never will be a truly democratically-elected Republic the sooner this is understood as fact the better chance we have two survive.
NO THE ONLY CHANCE!! The truth shall set us free
MONARCHY !
As long as the masses have their bread and circuses they will never revolt! 😞
@John Wolf I can't wait for that day to come! Lets set it off and get it over with already. Like ripping off a bandaid!
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Given that there have been literally hundreds of revolutions in history, that's obviously false.
how the hell is pro bono legal representation a campagain contribution
Shady government officials whom dont' want to loose their jobs.
It's a battle of words and their definitions. Control of people's words means, control over their minds...
B Masse That’s nice how they can make up their own definitions 👍🤘
Jimmy Wang anytime they find they need to protect themselves they make a law or in her case a large amount of money
It's not as she was not campaigning, she was only trying to have the offical recalled. The government was just trying to get her to back down anyway possible. This woman deserves a medal for what she has accomplished; I am an educated woman and would have no idea on how to get this kind of ball rolling.
If she lies under oath. Thats a crime and they KNOW that...
I don't understand how trying to have a politician "recalled" is campaigning, she isn't running for office. She's pointing out the politicians corruption. For a private citizen to raise awareness of the need to recall an elected official isn't a campaign, it's the peoples right to peaceably assemble and to petition the government on any grievances. Again, covered by the First Amendment of the US Constitution.
Thanks for looking out for the "little guy".
Uncle_Bob she was “campaigning” to change the law that prohibited recalls. The state commission was moving the goalposts
Absolutely incredible! Sadly, though, it's par for the course in our profoundly illegal "legal" system!
I enjoy seeing how there’s these random laws that basically protect the Governments from any liability. Not.
I agree with Greg. The acceptance of a violent ruling class is the problem here. It's not okay to threaten people with imprisonment of death for speech, failing to pay taxes, or any number of non-violent activities.
No victim, no crime.
Why is there a law requiring citizens to prove their case in court for recalling an elected official before they can mount a recall effort?? The answer is simple. This law seeks to make sure that only the RICH AND POWERFUL, who can afford a court fight, can mount recall efforts. Most oppressive govt. actions can be shown to benefit a rich minority, who are pulling govt. strings behind the scenes with their money. Just follow the money trail.
There are some who stress that government is a necessary evil. Those that do seem to stress that government is necessary. They seldom realize that they are also admitting that government is, while necessary, also evil.
The problem in our culture is that we have grown to tolerate far more evil than is absolutely necessary.
Fact the government is not necessary
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
--Frederic Bastiat. Economic sophisms, 2nd series (1848)
That's like saying defending your property against a thief is selfish, because if he doesn't steal your couch his kid might not eat that night.
No one is hurt by my refusal to capitulate to coercion, because nobody has the right to the product of my labor. Teachers (or any other professionals) only have the right to be paid if the money is collected voluntarily.
Thank you, Robin and the merry band of libertarian litigators at IJ!
It comes down to a question of whether voters or the courts should decide what is a "valid" reason for recalling an elected official. IMO, in a democracy, it's the VOTERS' opinion of an elected official's conduct that should matter, NOT a court's opinion. The Washington law is obviously intended to make it difficult for anyone who cannot afford a court fight to mount a recall election. We just disagree on whether that's right. So let's just agree to disagree.:)
Thanks for all that you do IJ. I hope that there comes a day that none of us will actually need your services, but for now I'm glad that yall are here to help.
I like to THANK YOU to Ms. Robin Farris ! You are an inspiration to us all !
In other words she got so tied up with the courts, that she never got around to recalling the original guy?
Government bullying ?
Call it what it is..
TYRANNICAL DEMOCRATIC
SOCIALISM
Don't sugar coat what's happening in the country..
@John Carosi Yeah those fascists wanting to eliminate free speech, repeal the 2nd amendment, and have the government run every facet of society are scary as fuck. Theres about 20 of them running against Trump right now.
Flash fact: First cousin marriage is legal in California and they have the highest rate of consanguineous marriages in the nation. Inbred hippie
@@HellsYeah8 YES...WE ARE HEADED TO A MAJOR CIVIL.WAR BECAUSE OF THE MSM AND THEIR PROPOGRANDA WHICH IDIOTS FALL.FOR.DAILY....
Dude.. are you REALLY so Enslaved by the two party system that you see everything according to a political party line??And you don't see anything wrong with that???Try to be an American First....
They don't understand how they are going ruin their own future by bullying citizens
It's time to start fireing all government employee's send them all home no pay no pensions.
Government employee’s what?
This article brings to mind the real political split in this country: between the Ruling Party (Establishment) and the Country Party (Everyone Else). A PDC exist for one overarching purpose, control of the public debate. When a Petitioner suddenly becomes classified as a candidate for some unnamed office, (Why else a campaign donation?), then that person's right to petition the government has been infringed. When such infringement comes at the hand of a govt. agency, it seems felonious.
I can understand why the people of Washington State originally wanted this law, as an attempt to counter the Citizens United decision which legalized bribery. But the legislation OVERREACTS, essentially making the legal system unavailable to anyone who DOESN’T have a Citizens United size bankroll.
Since legal counsel is an absolute necessity in fighting for one’s rights, the law should AT LEAST be amended to exempt pro bono legal advice from being considered a “contribution” to a campaign.
And although Robin’s PRIMARY aim was to get a recall vote passed, her SECONDARY lawsuit was to protect her OWN RIGHT to speech (and as a side effect, to protect the rights of others, INCLUDING the incumbent politician she wanted to recall!), so in a sense, limiting the help she could get in the secondary fight is limiting her right to legal SELF DEFENSE.
The fight against CU should be concentrated against SELFISH special interests who are well off and just GREEDY for more; those organizations which are defending themselves and their mission from OBLIVION, and those individuals who are fighting against their own or others’ LIVES or FINANCIAL SURVIVAL, should have more leeway in accepting volunteer help.
Actually, if taxpayers gain a net benefit from things for which their taxes pay, then wanting to end the practice of taxation is quite unselfish.
A recall election is NOT a lawsuit, frivolous or otherwise. Usually, a recall election takes place when a substantial percentage of eligible voters sign a petition asking for it. The petition demonstrates that enough voters are dissatisfied with an elected official to justify a vote on whether he should be recalled. The courts should not be involved at all. It is NOT a legal issue. It is a case of democracy in action. The Washington law suppresses democracy.
Coercive taxation is a violation of the non-aggression principle, property-rights, and self-ownership. This is just a fact.
I too want security services, arbitration services, mass education, medical care, ect. However, I recognize that these services can be provided for voluntarily without resorting to violence or threats thereof to fund and maintain state-sponsored programs.
To better understand where I am coming from please consider watching the 4-minute video below.
/watch?v=0ne16Le-hq4
So, what ever became of this? Do people in Washington state have Freedom of Speech yet?
Link in the description.
The plaintiffs were granted a permanent injunction against the defendant preventing the defendant from requiring the plaintiff or any other political committee to report free legal services in federal civil rights lawsuits.
In this country we stand up to them. LOLZ, troll much! Using the court to defeat them is like cutting your throat to defeat a murderer.
LOLZ, troll much!
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Is that English? What does it mean?
@@marypoppins2044 It means a spoonful of murderin' helps the politicians stay down!
Probably too graphic for the tube, but we'll see.
that would be very difficult to pull of because there's two costs you have to over come to obtain an actual net benefit:
1) is the direct cost. That money has to come from somewhere.
2) is the opportunity costs. How much extra economic activity could've resulted from the lack of capital (as a result of taxation).
Number 1 is easy to handwave off but number 2 remains mostly unseen. I suspect a lot more people would have a different opinion of the tea party if they noticed it more.
I think some could label Bob Ferguson as a domestic enemy.
What if our conservative candidates spoke about these issues this clearly and simply?
Because this type of corruption is non partisan. Democrat, Republican, the alphabet soup of political parties. There will always be some form of government bullying, because people with power sometimes abuse that power.
It is the job of our constitution to protect us from this. If we are able to get our voice heard.
The Libertarians have been speaking to this for over 40 years. Harder to convince someone they've been fooled, than to fool them. Liberal and conservative. Democrat and Republican are meaningless divisive terms for the same flightless ****bird.
What if we stopped voting for slavery. And starting voting on the issue itself ourselves!
@@tropicalco2339 just stop voting.
Keep up the good work....you helping every American wether they know it or not. It's good to see the little person stand up to government tyranny. I and many other will be praying for you . Stand tall and stay tough. This country needs more citizen like you with the will to fight the good fight. God Bless You.😎
The IJ is like a real life super hero organization.
Isn't the government supposed to serve the people? Not oppress them? I wonder what George Washington and Benjamin Franklin would think seeing the way the current government is treating the people?
HEY, folks, you do get this is NOT the Federal Government, but the STATE of Washington, right? Other than that, good luck
Great work! Good luck and let the justice win!!!
Man.. you hear about things like this, and you want to say.. Awesome shes winning, but then its like.. reality sets in.. and your up against the state.. and they use your tax money along with others, so basically they have this infinite coffer of ammo.. and your helping provide said ammo. It makes me sick. Really does.
That is why I like both Judicial Watch and Project Veritas since they are not afraid to go after the big bullies in government. They have stood for so many people who otherwise would not be able to fight back against the bullies from the government. These people are heroes who risk everything going up against such powerful individuals in public office. Thank you for all you do!!
Is it a big secret which person or agency Robin was fighting?
This happened here in El Paso last year, but with far different outcome. There was a vote on benefits for gay couples. The majority voted against it BUT then Mayor John Cook decided he knew better so he later overturned the vote (it so happens that the city attorney was gay) Well, a prominent minister started a recall petition, in which he received about ten times the required signatures. SO the mayor & city council decide that being a minister is the same as being a business entity, which
This is how the game has been played for awhile.
The only difference is that it's out in the open now.
Roaches hate the light.
If you just stopped defining the government as an institution which uses initiatory force, you could classify a voluntary legislative, judiciary, law enforcement, and common defense organization as a government, and then you would be a "minarchist". It's all just semantics.
You make some good points, some of which I disagree with. However, I'm weary of prolonged youtube arguments that change neither party's mind and am ready to let this one end. Thanks for your civility.
Need laws changed that gives protection of bureaucrats from prosecution in civil lawsuits.
It's not a "paintbrush" statement. Can you explain how a minister who tries to recall a mayor for vetoing a measure that would deny benefits to gay couples would NOT be a bigot? (And all who signed his petition would be in the same boat.) Please answer this question logically rather than just resorting to more name calling. Thank you.
Go get em guys!! Keep us posted. Cheers from Chile.
I don't know who or what is behind the Institute, I'd like to thank the institute for all they're doing. I don't have money to donate to them but if I did I'd give him a wheelbarrow full. I am metaphorically looking directly into the eyes of these dedicated public servants while saying thank you!
How did this case get resolved? There's nothing about it in the notes
this is the most terrifying thing I have ever heard in my life
the name itself suggests that it is FOR JUSTICE, in this way if anyone is benefitted it is "a byproduct" not aim.
Thank you. I hope that we don't require your services but it's good to know who to call if we do.
Oh Bravo!!
(I'd sure love to poke my tongue out at the SPLC)
This happens in WA!
The IJ drives to court in the batmobile!
Every fking time I watch one of these videos my God damm blood Boils!!Then I feel like Justice is Served by the Institute!! Emotional rollar coaster with a happy ending..God Bless the IfJ!!:)
So this is an ad for IJ.
ty IFJ
I was facing 7 years in prison Because government employees swore to false reports. They admitted to it, they received promotions. I was offered a plea deal and lost pretty much everything. That's the justice system at work.
A question i looked at your website and it appears your only in AZ, WA, and MN do you defend people in other states and which ones????
3 people have disliked this. They've likely also applied for the FEMA camp guard positions.
Check out where in the Bible people of a certain region are Chastised by one of the Apostles for saying "Let us do Evil that Good may come" You're in good company Greg.
Nothing better than getting punished with your own money
Not a good idea unless you are rich (lawyers) or demorat! (control the court system!)
Go Robin!!!!!!!
We have not been America for a long time now.
Naval Officers don't wear enlisted sailors hats.
Who is the government official ?
16 thumbs down =
16 government employees!
2013 ?
It seems freedom is something we only export to other countries. Inside the US government plays by different rules.
Nice clip, excellent story. Great legal services.
campaign for what? on the basis of this matter or any other single achievement she is not going in polls. or what else is definition of campaign in the eye of law?
We will all be serving drinks on the beach to retired government employees in our golden years.
Great stuff!
Nice one Robin.
Watch it again. Many of the good-guy protesters have darker "skin" too. :)
The privileging of particular points of view such that they, and only they, get to call people "bigot" or "bully" or whatever... that's bigotry and bullying, because it substitutes force for discussion. Discussing the matter at this level of abstraction is impossible in most cases. The attitude seems to be "Hey, we stole the rules fair and square so SHUT UP H8R!". Pfft.
Sounds to me like she was getting a campaign contribution, and got something of value for nothing. Call a spade a spade. Why doesn't she go out and start some free enterprise and pay her own way.
I wonder what happened with this.
Hell yeah!
NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.
WHICH WASHINGTON? DC IR STATE IF??
WHO IS THE POLITICIAN??
REGARDLESS WE NEED MORE OF THIS TYOE OF CITIZEN ACTIVISM EVERYWHERETO SAVE OUR STATES AND OUR REPUBLIC.
You've confused a recall petition with a recall election. The purpose of a recall PETITION is to show enough public interest in a recall to justify a recall ELECTION. The petition does NOT recall anybody. It just leads to an election, in which, indeed, more than 50% of voters have to approve a recall for it to take place. Why don't you read up on the recall process before expressing anymore opinions about it?
I hate to drag the comments section down to my level but 'Robin' as depicted in this video, looks like Mrs. Puff on Spongebob SquarePants.
Are we talking about Atlas Shrugged? Oh we're talking about America, gotcha. :)
The Washington swamp at work.
I thought this was a New creation, the vid, but its Years old. Will it EVER stop?
Institute for justice time has passed what was the outcome m
Love liberal Washington State.
Public Disclosure Commission is out of its jursidiction- it is for politicians and political parties.
Cops film you: "WHAT ARE U HIDING?!!" "YOU MIGHT BE A TERRORIST"
You film a cop "THAT DAMPENS OUR NOBLE POLICEMEN!" *charges you with interfering with police and resisting arrest*
In that country they don't give in to bullies........... they elect them as president.
fight back even if it's take s are blood
Anarchy is the way
we want these cops and government workers to take a lier test to prove what they say and do on there reports on the job s
You go girl.
Should we expect anything else from a left-wing state?
Plenty of examples of this is "right-wing" states, too. Partisanship is not going to help fight these battles.
@@orionsghost9511 That's how they get away with this shit. They create this false left-right paradigm to keep us fighting amongst ourselves instead of coming together and tarring and feathering their asses!
great video.
Perhaps because with a cartoon, detractors are less likely to make ad hominem comments about the persons involved, and have to actually think about the issue at hand.
Bravo.
Wait wait wait. If no one could donate more than $800 how many ppl did she have on her side? Just one. By changing the law it sounds like what you really did was just make it easier for rich ppl to start recall campaigns against politicians/elected officials they dont like and they can do it with just one rich person backing them. As an example if the lawyers cost 8000 that's only 10 ppl contributing the max amount or 100 ppl contributing 80 bucks. Idk this whole thing seems fishy. Also who cares if you were campaign contribution. You did it for free, so you contributed $0. You can't say how much a lawyer has to charge or should have charged. Again this all seems very fishy. Almost like an add for Citizens United, which is the reason only rich ppl and corporations get the laws they want passed while what the ppl want doesn't matter.
Smush ‘em!