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    "The Ultimatum: Queer Love" stars Lexi Goldberg and Mal Wright talk about misaligned goals on Netflix's reality dating competition. Plus, Yoly Rojas explains her trust issues surrounding her and Mal's partnership. Then, the reality TV cast dishes on Vanessa Papa's villainous vibe and Xander Boger explains why she didn't stick up for her.
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  • @pearlliehart8106
    @pearlliehart8106 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    Mal and Sam are the most mature ones from the entire bunch.

    • @Jonjones520
      @Jonjones520 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So not true. Lol.

    • @pearlliehart8106
      @pearlliehart8106 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Jonjones520 It is, for me.

    • @Jonjones520
      @Jonjones520 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pearlliehart8106 Sam for sure. I Can concede that Mal is second but she’s not on the same level as Sam.

    • @pearlliehart8106
      @pearlliehart8106 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Jonjones520 Like I said, that’s MY own opinion. You don’t have to agree. Mal and Sam, for me. Thanks.

    • @nadadada
      @nadadada ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@pearlliehart8106 I agree with you!

  • @Jeanette3
    @Jeanette3 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    Mildred was the WORST one on this show. Disgusting behavior.
    And Mal was seriously the most understanding and chill person I’ve ever seen in this kind of situation. She was so calm, patient and understanding of Yoly’s feelings for Xander. Because I could never be that chill about my partner having feelings for someone else!😅

    • @hubabaloop
      @hubabaloop ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely not! Haha she was great

    • @Cookie-cr6gf
      @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What about Sam? 😂 first I was like who is that she didn’t kiss hug one person I mean Aussie yea but Aussie is a mental mess

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

  • @bronwynmantel7722
    @bronwynmantel7722 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Mal's forecasting was accurate to a t.

  • @sarahanguria9908
    @sarahanguria9908 ปีที่แล้ว +562

    Mal was right from the get go

    • @Nay-wd1tp
      @Nay-wd1tp ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Yup! Yoli falls for whoever she's with 😂😂😂let's see how long it last

    • @emfarah3758
      @emfarah3758 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Nay-wd1tpMy thoughts exactly!

    • @danifranc7011
      @danifranc7011 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yuppppp she called it! Yoly so shadey

    • @MonsterZamberletti
      @MonsterZamberletti ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@infinite88588 thats so true and nobody is talking about that!

    • @infinite88588
      @infinite88588 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MonsterZamberletti she wasted Yolys time man...that's a woman who knows how to love; Yolys a real one...she knew that woman wanted babies and was just pushing for time....3 years and u still don't know what u want.
      If your confused bout what u want...don't date...figure your needs out.

  • @Jonjones520
    @Jonjones520 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Xander’s cowardice throughout the season really bothered me. They deserve a crown for being the leader of non-answers.

    • @earth2ellie
      @earth2ellie ปีที่แล้ว +15

      this. bigger personalities and mistakes were focused on but Xander also did wrong because they lied to Vanessa about having feelings for Yoly and being under the radar when conflict broke out.

  • @doubleservings2890
    @doubleservings2890 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Maybe because I'm older and in a long term relationship, but I can't understand why feeling that your partner is your best friend means things have gone south!?!? Becoming best friends should be a goal, a relationship will never sustain the constant spark/feeling of newness like in the beginning and that's natural but doesn't mean you won't have sparkly moments all throughout your time together 🥰

    • @maggiebrooks3982
      @maggiebrooks3982 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You are absolutely right. Its maturity to understand that a relationship does not consist of only the honeymoon phase. My parents have been married 45 years. My dad had a stroke 3 years ago, so my mama mostly takes care of him while my brother and I help. I cannot bring myself to do any care that reveals my dad's private parts🤢 My mama says, "oh that's because he's your dad, and not your honey"

    • @DustyStarrs
      @DustyStarrs ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I think what they mean is that the relationship feels more just platonic rather than it being mostly romantic. I totally agree with you though!

    • @Sage-Em
      @Sage-Em ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because there's no spark then. It's just being buddies.

    • @PanoramicView-o5p
      @PanoramicView-o5p ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed! My boyfriend and I met online and we’ve been together for one year now him and I are best friends and he always tells me that we are basically the same. We can laugh at stupid stuff and crack jokes that may seem stupid at the time, but we just click and always having not just a relationship with a significant other but also having that person as your best friend is always good, because you always create new memories throughout your entire relationship

    • @Cookie-cr6gf
      @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree and Vanessa took Xander for granted and got a slap in the face . She didn’t invest in her .

  • @KookyAssignments
    @KookyAssignments ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Not Mal predicting 😭

    • @Stephdh25
      @Stephdh25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let me find out she psychic too. Chileee

  • @asughara545
    @asughara545 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    Yoly is a 🚩🚩. Mal deserves better than her. If you’re falling for everybody that comes within spitting distance of you then you are for the streets.

    • @Sweetieee
      @Sweetieee ปีที่แล้ว +5

      💯

    • @maggiebrooks3982
      @maggiebrooks3982 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Definitely something to consider about someone

    • @mochalatte8202
      @mochalatte8202 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Mal was so right about her falling in love quickly. I loved how much love Mal had for Yoly, and kept Yoly's feelings in consideration even though her heart was breaking.

    • @lindseytaylor2285
      @lindseytaylor2285 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Facts

    • @maggiebrooks3982
      @maggiebrooks3982 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm not trying to be ugly, but Yoly seems like the kind of person that might cheat on you with a coworker.

  • @morgan69666
    @morgan69666 ปีที่แล้ว +734

    Am I the only one that didn’t think Vanessa was a villain??? Yoly was worse, Mildred was worse, Xander fully fell in love with someone else, like??? She just wasn’t sure monogamy for life was for her since when does that make her a villain?? She wasn’t sure and she figured it out and I don’t think it’s fair how mean everyone is to her on the cast? She’s like a scapegoat for everything

    • @Stephdh25
      @Stephdh25 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Vanessa was definitely annoying, but throughout the show you can really tell that she’s grown.

    • @angiem27
      @angiem27 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Yesss, I agree, I didn't like Vanessa at first but she ended up showing growth which i respect. I didn't like that they ganged up on her. Yoly and Mildred disgust me. Lexie I stopped liking her she's so pretentious and self-righteous. Get off your pedestal.

    • @danifranc7011
      @danifranc7011 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Agree. Vanessa is childish party girl play too much but yoly and Mildred were scummmmmm

    • @morgan69666
      @morgan69666 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@danifranc7011 I don’t even think it’s fair to call her childish… she was fully transparent form the beginning through the end about how she felt and what she wanted and the other people took it as a personal dig or something that it didn’t align with their thoughts/feelings

    • @danifranc7011
      @danifranc7011 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@morgan69666 being transparent doesn't mean not childish. The 2 can exist at the same time.

  • @kenny995
    @kenny995 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Vanessa had a lot of growth. Meanwhile some people just devolved and showed theit true colors.

    • @stephski2274
      @stephski2274 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I doubt she did.

    • @justinedawnz
      @justinedawnz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly. I feel like she was ganged up on unnecessarily. Yoly manipulated Mal throughout the process and I can't stand the way she kept accusing Vanessa of the exact things she was doing.

  • @lauraperdomo9095
    @lauraperdomo9095 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Mal has my ❤.

    • @tarielmbugua1554
      @tarielmbugua1554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish she can act another love series

  • @BlueAlien1313
    @BlueAlien1313 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Mal and Lexi are straight shooters and very honest and I respect and like them both. These two should have picked each other because they have so much in common but I am very happy they are friends.

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I think the age difference made Mal to friendzone Lexi. The moment they met with Mal's friend, Mal took her advice that 24 is way too young for a serious relationship with her. Although I love Lexis personality, she needs to mature mentally a little bit before she can date someone like Mal. Them being friends is an amazing outcome. ❤

    • @BlueAlien1313
      @BlueAlien1313 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@JaZmine147 I think Lexi is very mature and I love her outlook on life and relationships in general. I am glad those two are friends. They both seemed to be really good people.

    • @devesongs
      @devesongs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mal is a player. Lexi needs a reality check with Mal but she’s young so she doesn’t see it. I’m sure Mal is a great person but she’s not relationship material clearly.

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@devesongs How is Mal a player in your opinion? Just curious to understand your perspective.

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

  • @bellaloves2815
    @bellaloves2815 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The true villains were Yoly and Mildred. Mildred literally committed DV against her partner and pushed the stereotype of Latina women being verbally ab*sive and explosive to excuse her own terrible behaviour (tiff had their own problems but Mildred had no right to do what she did to Tiff). And Yoly SUPPORTED Mildred doing what she did. Also proved Mal right in what Mal thought Yoly would do, which was “fall in love” with whoever was available to her and fast, and could give her want she wanted aka money for a kid and whatever else. Mal was right to not trust Yoly’s emotions and then Yoly basically cheating and manipulating Mal and Xander AFTER getting engaged to Mal. Vanessa was just annoying, she was very loud and outgoing, which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And Yoly calling Vanessa a snake is very ironic. Vanessa is not the worst person like the show made her to be (immature and shouldn’t be in a relationship sure) and the cast just collectively jumping to hate her was strange even though some of them supported truly toxic people.

    • @graceking9723
      @graceking9723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i second this. i feel like vanessa was a scape goat for the narcissists so they could divert people’s attention away from them

    • @TheAlreadytaken24
      @TheAlreadytaken24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@graceking9723definitely not true.. the pessimistic mentality is wild.. and to overlook how manipulative vanessa was is crazy.. and mildred ex abused her before the show.. but y'all focus on how someone is reacting clearly y'all know nothing about reactive abuse..

  • @arualstarr
    @arualstarr ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Lexi was so immature and insecure, she just kept hyperfocusing on what Rae was/wasn't doing. sunshine needs to take a look at her own issues, and really work on herself too. She is absolutely acting her age, and it's normal for her to have those types of issues when this young. it doesn't make her a bad person, but I hope she gets herself into some therapy.

    • @b.a.hazard6787
      @b.a.hazard6787 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly. Wish more people would talk about this. It’s kind troubling to hear everyone commend her for being so well spoken and mature. Really didn’t like the way she was treating Rae at the end and considering how fast she moved on after their breakup, it doesn’t seem like she’s ready for a commitment like marriage.

    • @alexandryan100
      @alexandryan100 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      At first she seemed great, but it didn't take long for her jealousy to seep into every area of her life. She sabotaged herself with her vendetta against Vanessa. Which sucks because she was right about her but then couldn't let it go.

  • @gelaben26
    @gelaben26 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Thank God they cut out Mildred she is an abuser. Xander and Sam truly are beautiful inside and out

    • @motheryuba57
      @motheryuba57 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wondering if Mildred had some heavy childhood abuse that left her thinking she has to be tough all the time and not allow herself to be vulnerable. It was so sad watching her and Tiff get so toxically entangled. I hope she gets some kind of help to grow into a better person. She's not ready for a relationship till she addresses her abusive behaviors.

    • @Cookie-cr6gf
      @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it’s like Mildred and Aussie shiidddd Aussie a be like 🚶‍♀️ 🚪 👈🏼👈🏼👈🏼👈🏼 she don’t want to hear that beat up all the time

  • @88hayla
    @88hayla ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The real villains: Lexi, yoly, MILDRED

    • @user-kf6ed7iu5h
      @user-kf6ed7iu5h ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fr

    • @b.a.hazard6787
      @b.a.hazard6787 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeahhh. Wouldn’t outright call Lexi a villain but her treatment of Rae at the end wasn’t it. Why do we need to tell grampa again?? Just super manipulative and like there’s some things you don’t need to tell your whole extended family boo

    • @justinedawnz
      @justinedawnz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree!

  • @mayakiruluta2084
    @mayakiruluta2084 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think Mal’s describing Vanessa is spot on, she’s annoying as heck to watch but she’s harmless for the most part

  • @CaulkMongler
    @CaulkMongler ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Vanessa might’ve put her foot in her mouth a couple times, but I def think she hides a facade of nervousness and using laughter to hide her anxiety. I think she was honest with her feelings by the end of the show and was able to healthily reflect on herself - much more healthy than a good handful of the other contestants on the show.

  • @Maria.0.1
    @Maria.0.1 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Mal, Rae and Xander definetely dodged some bullets 💀

    • @jecintawangui3727
      @jecintawangui3727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💯 agree with you

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Rae needs some serious therapy to stop being avoidant and discover who she really is. She gets a pass because she's under 30 but if she keeps behaving like this in her 40ies (Aussie cough cough), it would be horrific.

    • @calture5086
      @calture5086 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hope Rae will not end up with another person like Lexi..what a nightmare. She's one step away from Mildred.

    • @JohnJohn-xs5ru
      @JohnJohn-xs5ru ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JaZmine147 Aussie is x5 worse.

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JohnJohn-xs5ru So true. She has 20 years more on her shoulders living with unresolved trauma.

  • @imjade1520
    @imjade1520 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Yoly IS a red flag

  • @PaintMePretty79
    @PaintMePretty79 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I LOVE Lexi’s hair! The super long hair was just too heavy. This length with the soft layers is perfect!

  • @Rexxie00
    @Rexxie00 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    People are attacking Mal in the comments about their trial marriage to Lexi but it was pretty obvious that she was never going to choose Lexi over Yoly.
    I personally think that Mal could see that Lexi was going through a lot because of the vanessa and rae situation and was just trying to help her feel better by going along with whatever Lexi did.
    They were a sweetheart to everyone, never bullied Xander even though it was obvious that they were hurt by the relationship between Yoly and Xander.
    They were the nicest person after Sam on that show, emotionally mature and she was right the whole time about Yoly being a faller.
    Mal stan for life.

    • @EmmaChitupa
      @EmmaChitupa ปีที่แล้ว

      I really love mal and lex relo

    • @jimmyhyun8546
      @jimmyhyun8546 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mal is not nonbinary.

  • @really8704
    @really8704 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I think Vanessa wasn’t all bad tbh

  • @Grace-ju1gp
    @Grace-ju1gp ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I have a huge crush on Mal

    • @Loops-1
      @Loops-1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m a straight woman but I can say Mal is hot and could get it

    • @blueirene2659
      @blueirene2659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too 🥹

    • @nikiwe3442
      @nikiwe3442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me tooooo

    • @tarielmbugua1554
      @tarielmbugua1554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me tooooo ❤❤❤❤

    • @yunjin1stfan
      @yunjin1stfan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me too like

  • @9crimes87
    @9crimes87 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Yoly and Xander: was it love, lust or infatuation?? The feeliing or newnest and novelty usyally wears off eventually which is why strong foundation is necessary to reach longevity

  • @dragonflyy920
    @dragonflyy920 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Yoli loves love not the person she says she is in love with.

  • @MegaNicolemarie
    @MegaNicolemarie ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Im actually in love with Xander
    I know thats weird but she's amazing ❤

    • @always_wishing28
      @always_wishing28 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I 100% agree.... From the moment i saw her appear in the first episode, my entire being gravitated towards her.. I feel like she has so much to give and it's not being reciprocated the way i'd love for it to.. I personally don't believe that either Yoly or Vanessa is right for Xander

    • @tarielmbugua1554
      @tarielmbugua1554 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same ❤❤❤but If I can get mal I can be happy am in love with her❤

    • @queenesquiresquad
      @queenesquiresquad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @tarielmbugua1554
      @tarielmbugua1554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@queenesquiresquad 😂🤣😂😂😂🙆‍♀️

    • @rociosegura6091
      @rociosegura6091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

  • @sadiM653
    @sadiM653 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lexi pretends to be super mature but she’s not. Especially considering she didn’t know when to cut off Rae. Rae was really just blowing in the wind with rather she wanted to be with Lexi or not. Mal is a catch so I can see why Lexi likes Mal. But in reality I don’t see them ever working out long term. She’s simply not Mal’s type even though Mal probably wouldn’t mind dating her, I wouldn’t see that really going anywhere for Lexi realistically. Also Lexi’s parents seemed very annoyed with that being a possibility. Lexi also seemed very reliant on her parents especially for planning her possible wedding etc… like chill we know her parents would not agree with her marrying a black woman who is 12 years older than her. Especially since she has never even dated 1 black woman ever. Mal is not checking for her like she thinks.

  • @SkarGig
    @SkarGig ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Mal and Lexi should just be together and have their own show lol

  • @tonidiane6153
    @tonidiane6153 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Dang, so do we know the outcomes already? bc it sounds like Xander didnt choose Vanessa.

    • @MegaNicolemarie
      @MegaNicolemarie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know ...sounds like she didn't pick Vanessa

    • @always_wishing28
      @always_wishing28 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MegaNicolemarie I sure hope she didn't.. Vanessa is not for her

    • @moniqueuu8777
      @moniqueuu8777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank God!

    • @MichelleLeah
      @MichelleLeah ปีที่แล้ว

      The new episodes are up now

    • @nickylee3998
      @nickylee3998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is there a season 2 soon

  • @sosweetmeanstreak
    @sosweetmeanstreak ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yoli you're toxic too babe.

  • @kiecutielove2923
    @kiecutielove2923 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I couldn't stand Yoly, she is so phony and condescending. Seriously! She was arrogant and annoying, she had it out for Vanessa from day one and I don't believe she loved Xander, Mal said it from the beginning she falls in love with everyone she's with and that's a serious red flag

  • @mamalotus8988
    @mamalotus8988 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Yooooooo not Xander shading Vanessa for causing messiness during her trial marriage 💀💀💀 that's wild

  • @hubabaloop
    @hubabaloop ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lexi’s hair 😭😍😍😍 stunning gorgeous

    • @Cookie-cr6gf
      @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omg I so love ❤her lol

  • @erinvaughn3739
    @erinvaughn3739 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love Lexi and Mal .. This show is outstanding 💖💪💖💪💖💪
    I would love to see a group of older women 💖♥️💖

  • @alyssabenavides3127
    @alyssabenavides3127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    when xander said “maybe at least own up to that. but i mean that’s not my journey” 😂😭😭😭

  • @terranuovabiochar
    @terranuovabiochar ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Lexi was so controlling with Rae yet said she wants to get married with mal LOL. She is the real villain

    • @raquelvalencia2491
      @raquelvalencia2491 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah I don’t like Lexi either

    • @naranjitanaranja2235
      @naranjitanaranja2235 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lexi was not controlling, Rae was unfaithful, and Lexi has al the right to feel uncomfortable with their relationship. It's wild how you people always describe others so awful when her feelings are totally valid.

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She didn't say she wants to marry Mal. She said Mal was the perfect trial marriage person to have this experience with.

    • @Aprinsa
      @Aprinsa ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@naranjitanaranja2235 agree with you except on Rae being unfaithful. Honestly this whole situation was pretty dubious… like how are you “breaking up” with someone to have a “monogamous” relationship with someone else, but y’all are making promises to each other about what’s not happening with your new relationship? Frankly the entire idea is absurd and should make you question the absurdity of the monogamous mentality. It’s like they were set up to both think this was okay and NOT think it was okay, creating a chaotic experience for all. To both think it was monogamy and have two relationships effectively at once. No wonder almost all of them broke up in the end.

    • @Jonjones520
      @Jonjones520 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@naranjitanaranja2235 lol you don’t think Lexi was controlling? I’m sure way before the ultimatum, Lexi was speaking over Rae, invalidating her feelings and making her feel guilty for being human and falling within the boundaries that Lexi set. Lexi has classic emotional abuser tendencies.

  • @virus76892
    @virus76892 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the title says shady vanessa but lbh even though she was annoying she was honest. Yoly on the other hand....

  • @dragonflyy920
    @dragonflyy920 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The truth is that both Yoli and Vanessa are manipulative in different ways. Yoli peeped that and disliked Vanessa for being similar. AND Vanessa gets away with more cuz she is white. Xander is cute but she seems to like a bit of toxicity hence why she went from Vanessa to Yoli, two sides of the same coin.

    • @infinite88588
      @infinite88588 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stop hating on Yoly for no reason; Yoly and Vanessa are worlds apart different personalities....it makes no sense the show is called Ultimatum...these peoples relationship where already on the rocks all of them they jst needed a lil push to make the choices to move forward.

    • @Sage-Em
      @Sage-Em ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cause she's white? Come one, this has nothing to do with skin colour. We can be better than that. Vanessa is a snake, and that's it

    • @dragonflyy920
      @dragonflyy920 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@infinite88588 Personalities can be anything: soft spoken, nice, smiley all the time. Yes their personalities are different but their actions are similar: when you look at their actions, they did the same thing. Does Yoly get a pass because she came off as kinder through the manipulation to both people manipulated? Just cuz Yoly is softer with it doesn't mean she is not manipulative. She told her GF she had nothing to worry about and was telling Xander she loved her and didn't know what to do. Thats what gets a lot of people messed up with manipulative people - giving someone a pass because they appear to be confused or people that know how to stay calm and appear nice during manipulation a pass.

    • @MuZiC199ChIcK
      @MuZiC199ChIcK ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@infinite88588 yoli is literally terrible like what 😂😂😂

    • @blisssecured4119
      @blisssecured4119 ปีที่แล้ว

      interesting analysis

  • @Watchlater109
    @Watchlater109 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    People need to learn when to let go

  • @estemelrod3445
    @estemelrod3445 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I want a show with Lexi and Mal.

  • @spiritwarrior1111
    @spiritwarrior1111 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    💕💍🥇Sam & Aussie🥇💍💕
    Sam so impressive with her in-depth understanding of human behavior & holding space. Aussie tending to s
    trauma & gaining coping skills will make a great Wife. Congrats.
    💎🌹💕🥇💍💕
    Mal 💎 -Yoly🚩
    Zander💎 - Vanessa🚩
    Tiff 💎(w/talk therapy!)- Mildred🚩
    Rae - Vanessa 🐛Growing Pains🦋
    Note:
    If your heart & head is in the right place you can grow with tools & coping skills. 🗝Recommend, before toxicity is Irreversible & beyond repair.
    We do the work on wounds and trauma so we don’t project our pain on other people, especially the ones that love us.
    But do it because you love yourself.🗝
    🌹🌟❣️🌟🌹

  • @rociosegura6091
    @rociosegura6091 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Mildred made me SO MAD

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mildred is the WORST.

    • @rociosegura6091
      @rociosegura6091 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JaZmine147 she was like I'M LATINA. Well my whole family is Italian, so? There's culture and then there's RESPECT.

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rociosegura6091 Seriously though. I'm Greek and in my family we talk loud and over each other as well at dinner etc, but when we're 1 on 1 we always let the other person finish talking and then we respond. So ridiculous she tried to make it about culture.

  • @salamander8301
    @salamander8301 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Lexi is a psycho
    She is so controlling of rae, it's no wonder that girl has no self esteem. The way she cornering Vanessa and trying to make everyone hate her was crazy mean girl behaviour.

    • @PlantyOfBlessings
      @PlantyOfBlessings ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I completely agree with you!!

    • @raquelvalencia2491
      @raquelvalencia2491 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I’m glad more people are seeing it . She tries to get her parents to gang up on Rae too . She can’t let things go and tried to control Rae’s experience

    • @salamander8301
      @salamander8301 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@raquelvalencia2491 she seemed to cone alive after living with Vanessa

    • @moniqueuu8777
      @moniqueuu8777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanessa is one too.

    • @xobls
      @xobls ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I don’t care for Vanessa either BUT, Lexi was absolutely the pot calling the kettle black in saying Vanessa was there “for the wrong reasons” & that Vanessa was there for “fame”, meanwhile Lexi has 600k followers on instagram. So it appears LEXI just wanted to be famous & was projecting hardcore. She’s a clown 😂

  • @rashedadene638
    @rashedadene638 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lexi was so focused on Vanessa. It was annoying

    • @shani3861
      @shani3861 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe also its an edit, only focusing on things she said in regards to Vanessa.

  • @tle7026
    @tle7026 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    idk why lexi is calling out vanessa for being "fake" when shes just as toxic. imagine berating your partner for sleeping with someone else when you're broken up and guilttripping her by constantly rubbing in her face that she's going to tell her grandpa that likes her. like WHAT? and it's all she ever talked about in the second half of the season. work on your insecurities sis

  • @moniqueuu8777
    @moniqueuu8777 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    So glad Xander found happiness, peace, someone real because that Vanessa w is one manipulative, selfish, egotistical woman. Either Rae wanted to be free of Lexi or she's terrible at showing interest. She seemed so not into Vanessa.

    • @BlueberrySummertime
      @BlueberrySummertime ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Vanessa hasn’t manipulated anyone. She’s the only one who’s shown any growth

    • @74MD74
      @74MD74 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@BlueberrySummertime Just because she showed growth doesn't negate anything she did prior to changing. She was very manipulative

    • @really8704
      @really8704 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@74MD74 everyone is allowed to change

    • @hubabaloop
      @hubabaloop ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@really8704all can be true.

  • @camilacelinbancelin
    @camilacelinbancelin ปีที่แล้ว +11

    dude all these people need mad therapy and communication workshops, non violent communication, except Mel. Mel is the greatest. Followed by Lexi who has some issues but for 24 very very good. Aussi is broken beyond repair, poor Mildred has soooo much trauma in her body, she doesn't know what's lefty from right. And Xander is a gem. Pure heart.

    • @boolowoertheenappydreaded5359
      @boolowoertheenappydreaded5359 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      nobody is broken beyond repair do not push that narrative. will the journey be long? yes. but everyone deserves adequate help and a chance to be rehabilitated, especially from childhood abuse.

    • @camilacelinbancelin
      @camilacelinbancelin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boolowoertheenappydreaded5359 absolutely 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @SkarGig
    @SkarGig ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yoly seems like the shady snake lol i don't get anyone's annoyance with vanessa. Hating on the most cis looking and acting woman is what it comes off as.

  • @dragonz6983
    @dragonz6983 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Some of these women gotta be fibbing about their age 🤔cause ain't NO WAY!

    • @lindseylane7799
      @lindseylane7799 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂🤣😂🤣.... I was thinking the exact same.

    • @lajourdanne
      @lajourdanne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently Netflix got called out for lying about ages last season, so I wouldn't be surprised.

  • @kathryn1304
    @kathryn1304 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved Mal and Lexi.

  • @pauladethierry9104
    @pauladethierry9104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lexie is just 😲😲😲 shes just to brilliant for words, genuine asf, raw and truthful.

  • @homiedotkay4801
    @homiedotkay4801 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    i don’t see all the great traits about lexi everyone is talking about

    • @JohnJohn-xs5ru
      @JohnJohn-xs5ru ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm starting to change my mind.

    • @razorbladelemonade
      @razorbladelemonade ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She obviously bright but she’s a slick talker and hypocrite deflecting.

  • @mirelayy4157
    @mirelayy4157 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mal and lexi ❤❤❤

  • @Cookie-cr6gf
    @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad Xander left Vanessa she takes her for granted her own father even told her that .when it hit her she couldn’t handle it . She didn’t think no one wanted Xander . Please I’m straight and I like Xander she has a beautiful heart soul mind and strong willed she dealt with Vanessa long enough . Glad she left it for to better herself

  • @mandicloud88
    @mandicloud88 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lexi's done with shirts

    • @Cookie-cr6gf
      @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I didn’t realize how big those breasts are 😂

  • @razorbladelemonade
    @razorbladelemonade ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is rather sad that not one couple survived.

    • @SP-kr7wp
      @SP-kr7wp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except for Aussie and sam !

    • @Cookie-cr6gf
      @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes ppl forget about them lol I guess they was easily forgotten

  • @fernandocrustacean
    @fernandocrustacean ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oof E the audio on this was not good. Waaay different levels between the interviews and the clips from the show

  • @aashnadiva
    @aashnadiva ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both Vanessa and Mildred seem to clearly have Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). As a survivor of many years of abuse from a romantic partner with NPD, it was painful to see Vanessa and Mildred abuse and manipulate others on the show. I hope this show helps others to see the signs of narcissistic abuse and gives them the courage to cut narcissists out of their lives. I hope it doesn't glorify or boost the careers of narcissists, which Netflix should be more mindful of. For those who think highly of Vanessa, I urge you to research what is called a covert, passive-aggressive narcissist. Narcissists are sneaky, and can even be charming at times, but they are actually pathological liars and dangerous people. To any people out there who are being abused, or think they might be, you are not alone, you deserve better, and you will get through this even when you think you can't.

  • @ABeautifulMess101
    @ABeautifulMess101 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like Vanessa. I feel like she was just misunderstood and although Xander regrets sticking up for Vanessa, I’m glad that she did. Bullying someone is never okay.

  • @Cookie-cr6gf
    @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When aussie called Sam boo ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @annnnne
    @annnnne ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Netflix reality shows always have an assumed villain and then the real villain.

  • @yarapinto7957
    @yarapinto7957 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the end yoly was the shadiest 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @najma53
    @najma53 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yoly trying to describe Mal and put her down was her describing her own traits. She’s a horrible person who bagged on Mal every chance she got when Mal only gave her grace.

  • @A2daM2daZ
    @A2daM2daZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Mal and Lexi lovers in these comments. We can’t know what goes on behind the scenes but from what we saw on the show alone, they were the most logical. People put off by Lexi’s assertive personality but she wasn’t wrong about anything she said. Of course Lexi could be gentler with Rae, but Rae had the same problems Aussie and Xander did. Like SPEAK UP for yourself. Why always blame the partner when their partner doesn’t know how to speak up?
    And to that point. Thank god Mal had Lexi as a friend bc she was really about to give up her dignity to be with Yoly who showed at every turn she didn’t want her anymore. And led on two people until the very last second of the show.
    Clearly the personalities of Lexi and Mal are just my preferences bc for me, some of the passivity. And naïveté of the other contestants annoyed me to not end.

  • @chellesocray
    @chellesocray ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Soooooo….. second comment on this channel of the night…. Just finished watching the reunion…. Lexi and Rae over??? I’m confused. So why would you go on a reunion and say you are happy? I cracked up laughing at Netflix’s captioned ending. I am dead. 😂😂😂

  • @mariatangled
    @mariatangled ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lexi was worse than vanessa LOL, Mildred was insufferable

  • @mog9609
    @mog9609 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I really wanted Yoli and Xander to be together!!

  • @infinite88588
    @infinite88588 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    People are out here defending absolute strangers...
    ill say this tho...it took Mal the threat of someone else to commit to Yoly; she would have strung her along if allowed for longer...Yoly was right to allow herself to explore other options...none should force anyone to commit.
    Yoly isn't wrong for wanting what she wanted when she wanted it. If she had more of a firm boundary with a time limit she could have saved herself from being strung along by someone she wasn't fully compatible with.
    Hope she finds love; She deserves it.

    • @sillyhermy
      @sillyhermy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For what you are saying. They are both wrong than. Yoly is a grown adult that shouldn't be playing childish game with lying and pretending to forget things so they are not the 'bad guy'.
      Yoly was def not innocent in that relationship.
      It's weird that you ignore that to defend your favorite.
      They both deserve love. I wish that for the both of them.

    • @devesongs
      @devesongs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Everyone think Mal is a saint but she was stringing her gf along like a player, but these weirdos in the comment section have no discernment. I’m sure Mal is a nice person but she’s a player, that’s why she reads people easily.

    • @tiffanyr6444
      @tiffanyr6444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@devesongsMal didn’t string Yoly along. She was honest and told her that she wasn’t prepared for marriage. Stringing someone alone means lying to them and pretending just to keep them around. Mal told her truth and Yoly CHOSE to stay for 3 years.

  • @Str8upmoney
    @Str8upmoney ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So who stay with who

  • @Cookie-cr6gf
    @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rae @27 honey smh sheesh it’s ok we can’t not be sure of anything at at any age but you would think Lexi 27 and Rae 22 she obviously is comfortable just dating right now that’s good for her because she is not ready to make a major commitment she needs to learn more about herself and what she wants and work on her confidence in all honestly so if anything they will remain dating only marriage wouldn’t be healthy for them or either be single because Rae needs to grown up ppl want stability confidence and security . Rae doesn’t show any of that . Like imagine Rae and Aussie together omg what a messs 😂😮😮 exactly

  • @fulc4302
    @fulc4302 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want mal and yoly break up,..if yoly really love mal u dont fall in love with someone else…i think yoly’s love towards mal is shallow

  • @Cookie-cr6gf
    @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly Sam said if best “ don’t take all the crap with you to a new relationship what happen in your past with family members I think Mildred is pushing tiff and Aussie away

  • @ericagreene1579
    @ericagreene1579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoly acted worse than Vanessa though lol

  • @Cookie-cr6gf
    @Cookie-cr6gf ปีที่แล้ว

    My thing is rae needs to talk more we trying to see what she wants . I don’t think marriage is it for her at all she so insecure in her thoughts and actions that’s not a bit ready at all . But as far as continue to dating again I think that’s ok and I think she is ok with that for now marriage isn’t something to rush . Her and Lexi either continue to date to grow and end it and work on yourselves .

  • @bubbagump1306
    @bubbagump1306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They did own up to it…

    • @cat_pb
      @cat_pb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, Xander is projecting

  • @lwnordr
    @lwnordr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just messy and toxic af. lol

  • @lelelew2735
    @lelelew2735 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk y but everytime i see vanessa i see cersei from game of thrones

  • @Aylover
    @Aylover ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoli = Ben Affleck 😂

  • @cyndykated358
    @cyndykated358 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did (some) of these women find their next partner…in such a small group? Lol.

  • @AAAMassaroca
    @AAAMassaroca ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't get ppl in the comments. Like, Mal was also planning to get married with Lexi lol she said to her friend that she wanted that, and Lexi introduced Mal to their parents with the same intention. Idk why u hate so much ppl falling in love. It can happen anytime, the only thing that matters is what u decide to do with it 🤷‍♀️
    and tbh, it is not that hard to fall in love with Xander lol
    Also, ppl don't fall in love with everybody, but with who they connect with, and there are MANY movies and series showing ppl in a relationship falling in love with another person and I bet that in most of these u stay on the side of the new love bc it is much more real than with who they were before.

    • @devesongs
      @devesongs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mal telling a complete 24yr old stranger and you’re 36 that you want biracial kids with them in a few weeks or less is creepy. Mal is a player. I’m sure she’s a nice person but she loves to play with peoples hearts because she’s a narcissist
      Even her body posture is very narcissistic vibes. The way she sits, hold her face, always leaning to the side… player men do this all the time! 🤣

  • @20WUTEVER
    @20WUTEVER ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoly was terrible man oh man the worst.

  • @TheMoni77777
    @TheMoni77777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoly should be with Xander, the sparks are there 🔥

  • @Jessica-cu1rh
    @Jessica-cu1rh ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry but I'm not believing anything that comes out of Yolis mouth

  • @153ika
    @153ika ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoly is the worst in this series actually

  • @gillowens24
    @gillowens24 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always drama two girls in a relationship.

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah cause heterosexual couples are drama free. 😂😂😂

    • @PanoramicView-o5p
      @PanoramicView-o5p ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JaZmine147 no but when it’s two girls hormones fly off the handle. I know cause I can be dramatic but my boyfriend can calm me down.

    • @FragranceEuphoria
      @FragranceEuphoria ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PanoramicView-o5p men have hormones too...

    • @JaZmine147
      @JaZmine147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FragranceEuphoria She has never experienced hungry boyfriends when their blood pressure goes down from not eating. Hulk mode. 😂😂

    • @hubabaloop
      @hubabaloop ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just say you’re homophobic.

  • @devesongs
    @devesongs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mal is a player

  • @eileen1820
    @eileen1820 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Christ is King. He is the only way. This is disordered and against His plan for these women.

    • @dee7519
      @dee7519 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ok

    • @goodysmarts
      @goodysmarts ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @eileen I am an Atheist

    • @eileen1820
      @eileen1820 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goodysmarts very sad you're such an easy mark for social engineering. A proxy warrior doing the dirty work for a certain group of people who have exploited and used poor people for countless years. You ARE serving some ideology. You have a [false] god who does not serve you. They used you and you serve them. Sickened by your complicity with your own destruction.

    • @kierstynsaoirse
      @kierstynsaoirse ปีที่แล้ว +65

      hmm why are you here then lol 👀

    • @eileen1820
      @eileen1820 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kierstynsaoirse where else should I be? an echo chamber like u prefer?

  • @mroddydawg
    @mroddydawg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lorrrd Lexi is amazingly gorgeous and I’m straight. I would definitely go for her.🥵🫠

    • @calture5086
      @calture5086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vomit

    • @Jonjones520
      @Jonjones520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meh, you deserve better than to be with emotionally abusive and manipulative people. Everyone does.

    • @hubabaloop
      @hubabaloop ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr

  • @theprettygigi
    @theprettygigi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    xander: “i’ve known for a WHILE now, and it took me a WHILE to accept that i love you” …. it’s been 7 days. SEVEN