Excellent! The Amiga Shell was actually quite powerful. I use it all the time and find it more reliable than copying large numbers of folders via Workbench
Dang!!! This is so helpful. I still have my original 2000 I bought when they first came out. Even back then I only kinda sorta knew what I was doing as I pretty much just played games. I would actually have been better served by an Amiga 500. Didnt realize how expensive it was gonna be to really "trick out" my 2000. Then along came the PC clone surge and the 2000 went back into its box! Now that Im back into Amiga's and have acquired several 2000's, 1000's, and 500's this refresher course is just what I need.
One of the most unknown AmigaDOS features is the reverse apostroph. It's the key above Tab. The ` redirects an text output to another command, so requestchoice `eval 22*67` opens a window with the content "1474". It is a very useful feature. An example is alias cdr cd `requestfile DRAWERSONLY` The alias cdr opens a requester which shows directories and changes into the selected one. If you want to add this command to your shell-startup you have to disable the function with an asterisk. alias cdr cd *`requestfile DRAWERSONLY*`
In 2.0+ to quickly get a shell, Use left Amiga +E (Execute) brings the execute dialog, then enter 'newshell'. Bing, New shell box. Saves going to System, or you can drag the Icon from System on to the desktop to have it always available for double click on the workbench. The assign command can be used like Linux with its Hard / Soft linking, as you said in the video, *ANY* directory can be 'Assigned' as a device, as long as it physically exists somewhere on HDD or whatever, even if it is like 10 directories deep, if you 'ASSIGN' that directory with its own name, that directory then becomes a ROOT directory of that assigned device name. Of course you can still go up a directory level past the Assigned location, and yes the system will see that assign as a Device, so any system compliant programs will also use that as a valid device.
Thanks for the tips, the "execute and newshell" is just like the windows equivalent of "win + r and cmd" which I do to get a command prompt in windows. I should have though about just moving the shell icon around, not sure why they buried it so deep, you could make a copy first then drag the copy to the workbench to have a shortcut in multiple places
It only works with Right Amiga + E key for my 1200 tho, not left Amiga. I'm sure I used to do that a lot back in the day but so the little tricks escape your muscle memory in 20+ years...
Shortcut: Type Amiga+e for "execute", then type "cli" or "shell". Or "newcli" or "newshell". Also: Instead of re-opening the Folder, you can also force Workbench to check for new Icons with the "Update" command from the menu.
11:43 very usefull if have folder open and need make commands in. just open execute command and write newshell. you in that folder in shell. and it remember that newshell command so its there quickly when have used it
Thanks, it seems you can. I tried it, but it doesn't work with the implied 'cd'. So doing 'cd foo~bar' will change to the directory, but just typing 'foo~bar' isn't understood, so "foo bar" is still required to be correctly understood as an implied directory change.
Amiga CLI commands are pretty standard stuff in my opinion, what's odd is the #? wildcard and cd / to go down one level. :) I really think the hardest part of remembering is what stuff you need for a nice workbench if you don't want the stock 3.x look. Most stuff is available on aminet but not all. Also if you go for a newer OS, like 3.2.1 there are some incompatibilities with old software, not much but some.
Yeah, I think it is pretty intuitive. It's just hard to use sometimes as you might have been using the ms CMD for many years. The other trap was that MS-DOS allows you to use back or forward slashes, but Amiga is only forward slashes. So on Amiga you can put a backslash in a filename, and really confuse yourself.
Remember at the beginning of the 90s. I had a teacher who loved everything Microsoft did. If there was a bug in their software he blamed the user. Because according to him Microsoft's software had no bugs. A hardcore fanboy. He even defended the short file name(8+3) in ms-dos. While many students at home had an Amiga. Amiga OS was and is so much better than ms-dos.
For people like me who went from the Amiga to the PC after the Commodore demise, it did seem like we had gone backwards a little for a while. 8+3 sucked
I made lots of stuff with AmigaDOS, so I didn't watch the video. Have you shown a method to create scripts with the echo command? You have to add a line feed *N before each new command. echo >T:tempscript "cd SYS:*Ndir" creates a script cd SYS: dir If you want to use special characters, you have to use the asterisk. echo >T:tempscript "cd SYS:*Ndir *"#?.info*"" results in cd SYS: dir "#?.info" You can also create rexx scripts using this method. An easy method to delete these temporary files is unsetenv T:tempscript It has the advantage that the command is in the ROM.
Excellent! The Amiga Shell was actually quite powerful. I use it all the time and find it more reliable than copying large numbers of folders via Workbench
Dang!!! This is so helpful. I still have my original 2000 I bought when they first came out. Even back then I only kinda sorta knew what I was doing as I pretty much just played games. I would actually have been better served by an Amiga 500. Didnt realize how expensive it was gonna be to really "trick out" my 2000. Then along came the PC clone surge and the 2000 went back into its box! Now that Im back into Amiga's and have acquired several 2000's, 1000's, and 500's this refresher course is just what I need.
One of the most unknown AmigaDOS features is the reverse apostroph. It's the key above Tab. The ` redirects an text output to another command, so requestchoice `eval 22*67` opens a window with the content "1474". It is a very useful feature. An example is
alias cdr cd `requestfile DRAWERSONLY`
The alias cdr opens a requester which shows directories and changes into the selected one. If you want to add this command to your shell-startup you have to disable the function with an asterisk.
alias cdr cd *`requestfile DRAWERSONLY*`
Memory feels ❤ Loved the Amiga days so much
In 2.0+ to quickly get a shell, Use left Amiga +E (Execute) brings the execute dialog, then enter 'newshell'. Bing, New shell box. Saves going to System, or you can drag the Icon from System on to the desktop to have it always available for double click on the workbench.
The assign command can be used like Linux with its Hard / Soft linking, as you said in the video, *ANY* directory can be 'Assigned' as a device, as long as it physically exists somewhere on HDD or whatever, even if it is like 10 directories deep, if you 'ASSIGN' that directory with its own name, that directory then becomes a ROOT directory of that assigned device name. Of course you can still go up a directory level past the Assigned location, and yes the system will see that assign as a Device, so any system compliant programs will also use that as a valid device.
Thanks for the tips, the "execute and newshell" is just like the windows equivalent of "win + r and cmd" which I do to get a command prompt in windows. I should have though about just moving the shell icon around, not sure why they buried it so deep, you could make a copy first then drag the copy to the workbench to have a shortcut in multiple places
It only works with Right Amiga + E key for my 1200 tho, not left Amiga. I'm sure I used to do that a lot back in the day but so the little tricks escape your muscle memory in 20+ years...
Shortcut: Type Amiga+e for "execute", then type "cli" or "shell". Or "newcli" or "newshell".
Also: Instead of re-opening the Folder, you can also force Workbench to check for new Icons with the "Update" command from the menu.
11:43 very usefull if have folder open and need make commands in. just open execute command and write newshell. you in that folder in shell. and it remember that newshell command so its there quickly when have used it
~ You can also use this symbol to access a file with a spaced name
Thanks, it seems you can. I tried it, but it doesn't work with the implied 'cd'. So doing 'cd foo~bar' will change to the directory, but just typing 'foo~bar' isn't understood, so "foo bar" is still required to be correctly understood as an implied directory change.
Amiga CLI commands are pretty standard stuff in my opinion, what's odd is the #? wildcard and cd / to go down one level. :)
I really think the hardest part of remembering is what stuff you need for a nice workbench if you don't want the stock 3.x look. Most stuff is available on aminet but not all.
Also if you go for a newer OS, like 3.2.1 there are some incompatibilities with old software, not much but some.
Yeah, I think it is pretty intuitive. It's just hard to use sometimes as you might have been using the ms CMD for many years. The other trap was that MS-DOS allows you to use back or forward slashes, but Amiga is only forward slashes. So on Amiga you can put a backslash in a filename, and really confuse yourself.
Remember at the beginning of the 90s. I had a teacher who loved everything Microsoft did. If there was a bug in their software he blamed the user. Because according to him Microsoft's software had no bugs. A hardcore fanboy. He even defended the short file name(8+3) in ms-dos. While many students at home had an Amiga. Amiga OS was and is so much better than ms-dos.
For people like me who went from the Amiga to the PC after the Commodore demise, it did seem like we had gone backwards a little for a while. 8+3 sucked
I made lots of stuff with AmigaDOS, so I didn't watch the video. Have you shown a method to create scripts with the echo command? You have to add a line feed *N before each new command.
echo >T:tempscript "cd SYS:*Ndir"
creates a script
cd SYS:
dir
If you want to use special characters, you have to use the asterisk.
echo >T:tempscript "cd SYS:*Ndir *"#?.info*""
results in
cd SYS:
dir "#?.info"
You can also create rexx scripts using this method. An easy method to delete these temporary files is
unsetenv T:tempscript
It has the advantage that the command is in the ROM.
9:49 it means you can make folder and file name as files but you need "" becoz files is command thingy
I just played with amiga
It was also a computer!
I used to use kingcon.
First thing is to learn how to install kingkon: then profit
🙌 'Promosm'!