The game is GOOD NOW (Zenless Zone Zero Final Beta First Impressions)
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Turns out they also added some coop! So far it is available for weekly bosses. Very interesting!
No way!!! already love this game
"is just HI3 all over again"
GOOD. ZZZ is basically HI3 without all the crap that made that game unbearable. No stamina on story, no gacha artifacts, no PVP P2W endgame (but instead two great modes just like HSR) ,better combat, parry and air combat from the start, and QTEs are a full-blown mechanics. And gearing is just like Genshin, which isn't that great, but is better than HSR relic system and HI3 gacha stigmata
@@Asaki9013 There wasn't in the last beta but we have yet to see the abyss eqvivalent introduced. I'm not sure if it is in beta 3 since it's too early for people to be there.
I'm almost certain we are going to get that since hoyo is about to quadruple down on that designe with the new abyss (the other 3 are old abyss, memory of chaos and pure fiction).
@@bencegergohocz5988 So there is a chance that I can clear all the content with one team. Good enough
@BasedMan88x88 I agree with all that you said here except for one thing:
I have yet to see any air combat from this game. And no, characters jumping to the air as a part of their moveset animation does not count.
As somebody who isn’t interested in WuWa, I’d love to see you cover ZZZ, but in the end, definitely pick whichever one you end up preferring. What matters most is that you like what you do.
I love how you had to emphasise wuwa, wuwa and zzz are not comparable in anyway whatsoever, zzz is more comparable to PGR and I will tell you PGR is just too superior, zzz is just a pathetic attempt at replicating the fast paced arpg that PGR has perfected, I will stick with PGR thank you……zzz just looks too childish for me ……PGR offers way faster paced combat, captivating story and lore and more mature characters/women sorry I am not into furries and girl/child looking characters
@@chiboy5567 then why are you here
HELLTAKER PFP
I'm so glad to hear hoyo responded to the player feedback. If it comes out on PlayStation, I will for sure try it.
They do. They should start the ps5 test on the 25th.
By the way, payments in this game are already available in China, which means the release is coming soon.
they confirmed it will release same time for PS5,PC,and Mobile
Its the purpose of beta tests...
@@sarenlover6624 ssshh kuro game fans didn't know what beta test mean
????????? What does this even mean...?@@Dendyaryadi
I'm pretty sure the reason you can't walk around the hub as your gacha characters is for immersion.
Making it MC only gives them a lot more freedom when it comes to animating interactions. For example, petting cats. If it wasn't MC restricted, immersion stuff like that wouldn't be in the game. And after reading some of the dev interviews, it does seem like their ultimate goal is to create a hyper immersive environment with a bunch of interactions to explore
That is exactly what I was thinking: the very fact that they're allowing more physically diverse character designs is evidence for not going full open world. There's a reason Genshin Impact uses a very specific set of template models - and is still so hard to develop for. (Granted, we have just seen Genshin Impact finally come up with a limited way to pet cats.)
This is definitely true, but I feel like they could just swap to the MC when you do those interactions. Kind of like how Genshin and HSR already swap to the MC when talking to certain characters. Personally I think Jello is on the right track with it being the body sizes. Those can impact level design like having narrow alleys.
There's also character sizes. Ben is huuuuge and characters like him would have to go if all characters had to be able to work with the enviorments.
It’s been fun watching you try to find your next game to play alongside Genshin. ZZZ looks pretty cool.
The tv system would literally make me break my phone.
Playing the beta for the first time, I find it super fun and an enjoyable story so far
the "404 error" thing in an old TV feels out of place lol
Lol ww fanboy are salty in the comment coz jello dont want to play their mid game. Let the man play what he want.
How's the gacha system? There's just character and weapon banner? Or there's also a banner for Bangboos?
There’s a bangboo banner that uses a different currency as well as your standard and limited banner hoyoverse typically runs.
I read somewhere that the bangboo banners uses a currency which is farmable for free. But I am not sure about that.
@@jdmgkeoe4439 You know the currency that you get for getting dupes of 4 stars or 5 stars? In ZZZ, you use that to get tickets to roll in the bangboo banner. You get those tickets in a limited capacity from events, missions and other activities.
Puzzles are like my world!!! Thats why I am soo excited for this game!!! Another thing which I like to point out is, that they changed the attributes from fighting styles to the respectives roles. Easier to understand,easier to build teams
I like the character design, aesthetics , the colors and the comics throughout the game. I don't get to try any CBT but looking a few youtubers playing it, the gameplay simple enough for a daily basis gaming like other Hoyo games. The fact that its devs listened to players and tweaked a few things in latest CBT already a good sign.
I see the overworld hub being only the mc, meeting other characters around town and increase their trust, is all like persona. I like persona, so yea i dig it the way it is.
I was rooting for ZZZ to win the coveted "next jello game" title over wuthering waves :D. Not yet sure how much I'll personally play either one, but ZZZ just has so much more style, polish, and personality, that I feel I'll enjoy following it much more than I would Wuthering.
But of course, the thing I like the most about this channel is your love for the games you cover, and whether it will be ZZZ or any other game, I bet it will be enjoyable to follow, as long as you're honest about your enjoyment of it ❤
Bro stop coping you sound like if he decided to not cover wuwa you will be so happy the mihoyo shills really really want wuwa to fail but they are to p*ssy to just come out and state the fact they don’t want wuwa to succeed……so pathetic. Come here talking about polish style and personality …..bro the game looks foggy has hell almost like there is a white fog or mist on your screen.zzz is just a pathetic attempt at replicating PGR fast paced combat with boring story and characters that lack in-depth gameplay. Boring zzzzzzzzzz
@chiboy5567 hi3 exist before pgr, kuro is not a trend setter 🤭
Also the man is free do what he want. Jello probably know ww gonna be a flop.
any idea when the game will be release?
This summer. June or July. In CN payments already added. Which confirms release soon.
Before natlan for sure
challenge mode just more hp
You won't cover it but do you think about making some WW videos every now and then?
He will likely cover it when it releases just like every other CC that wants to make money and those tasty views. WuWa is a far better game than ZZZ will ever be. The Era of Hoyoverse games will soon be over.
Man free to do what he want. No need to get salty he dont play your favorite game. He probably know ww gonna be a flop.
Glad you like ZZZ. Personally, I can't stand the TV game mode, so I'll be playing WuWa. I've got enough "chores" to do in Genshin and HSR. Don't want to take on any gameplay I don't like anymore.
Yes, that's why you decided to choose another chore, as boring as Genshin. My respects.
All games become shores the moment you clear current story
@@broccoli5176 Yet you're watching a video about another chore game. My respects.
They are barely in the game at this point but the very people they reduced them for aren't even giving the game a fair chance... feelsbadman.
@@bencegergohocz5988 I kinda agree with them but I'm still gonna play it and give it some fair chances.
huh... good then.. at least they listened in this game.. the game's first advertised as Rogue-like ARPG, not a TV-puzzle game.. ill give it a chance..
unlike that one game...
Cool Looking Forward To Your Content On This Game
All the characters I want are A, not S. Not sure if that's a good thing. Still disappointed they nerfed Nicole.
I think my only personal gripe with this game is the lack of incentive to use Ultimates unless you’re using a solo character. Since you get ults just from staggering enemies and everyone’s ult is just a recycled assist move. Well, not that the QTEs are bad, but basically characters don't have ultimates because of that.
Bearable after a year will transform into a nightmare.
I think Project Mugen will be the obvious upgrade from this, if your device can handle it 😅
I really liked HI3rd so maybe ZZZ will work out for me. Just wish hoyo was better about gacha rates
I'm really looking forward to this game. To differentiate itself from Genshin, I believe ZZZ will have content that can satisfy non casual gamers. That said I don't think we'll really know until the game has been out for at least 3 months.
The aesthetic of the game is totally off-putting to me for some reason.
I usually think of concrete jungle settings as good or fine (Saints Row series, Honkai Impact 3rd’s city levels, Final Fantasy 7/8, Chapter 4 of Phantasy Star Online 2 as examples I’m fine with), but for some reason the characters and environments look butt-ugly to me.
I can see there is a decent amount of negativity, but I have hope for the game. I really like the artstyle and setting of the game, if they just lower the TV mode even more and have a hard endgame then I think I will love it. I don't have enough time for an open world game, and they kind of bore me anyways.
So happy they addressed the TV thing, I was 50/50 whether I was even going to bother trying it when I saw CBT2 footage. The standard selector will be great too, that way I can be guaranteed Nekomata 🤩 (even if it might take a while). I'm feeling quite excited about this game again so that's great. Glad you're also leaning toward ZZZ cause I really don't think Wuwa will be very enjoyable for me. I might try it but my hopes aren't that high. There's just something about the Hoyo polish that other CN developers just can't get right.
So it's out of the question that you continue with Honkai Star Rail? I guess Penacony and Black Swan weren't convincing enough...
Too many new characters all the time, not enough value in testing.
@@TheJelloShowthe powercreep in hstr feels so fast paced i never would have thougth i would say too much new characters
@@TheJelloShow Mihoyo wants that juicy gacha bucks and since it a turn-based game Honkai style powercreep is the only way to keep it from fading into nothingness.
@@fastedwarrior7353 Genshin: look at what they have to do to imitate our power
@@zulzineloso7531 jingliu with yanqing (AoE ice damage that does not lose stack upon getting hit), jingyuan with topaz (numby being a separate entity, immune to CCs), and now aventurine with gepard (stackable shield on skill/follow-up which counts hits to apply another shield)
i don't know the reason to play this game anymore when Wuthering Waves have more supperior combat, qte skill, combo, openworld, parkour, boss battle, gacha and no TV
Yea
Same
i heard people saying tv mode is like palaces in persona 5? i would actually like it if it's like that...
I'm pretty uninterested in ZZZ so I'll be just adding WW to my Genshin and Star Rail rotation. But best of luck with this channel
I like this game, I plan to drop genshin for it. I think it has a high potential also for the future characters
See it “looks” fun… but when you do boil it down and analyze everything, you never feel as much of an incentives. Prove to me or give me something that I can grind for long term and be able to immerse by the world that it has.
That's every game if you think about it actually.There is no game that you are playing everyday that lasts at least 3 yrs, then gotten bored then dropped but there are games that you still come back or just following some stuff about it.
Other than the female characters, there is absolutely zero - no pun intended - interest from me in this game. I haven't tried it, so I can't speak from experience, but there's zero excitement from me when I watch anything from this game...again, aside from the characters. So it's sad to me that you won't be covering WW, since that is the game I am most excited about.
Bad idea to cover only one game wean you can play both good game
If I had infinite time sure. But to cover a game with the quality I do genshin, it’s not easy or quick
the thing is your not your gacha character because they are in the city in real time
game took so long to come out i don't even care anymore and i also don't like what happened to nicole, but that's just me being a degenerate
as someone who CBT2 WuWa won over CBT2 ZZZ, I'm pretty impressed they did so much QoL change.
If it wasn't for this CBT3 (that I initially thought was pointless), I would have been disinterest.
Less TV, more difficulty, more playstyle variety, more game mode.
Can't say I ain't interested a bit now.
Still I need to see how that spiral abyss mode look like.
I also like that the difficulty can be chosen at will that was a complaint I had for WuWa. Let casual and hardcore each choose their mode, looks like ZZZ did just that.
I disagree that WuWa and Genshin feels the same.
Imo WuWa and ZZZ feels closer gameplay wise just because one has an open world doesn't mean much.
At that point every game with big map is just Genshin for you.
You don't have to explain why you don't feel a game.
I dont like the character design in this game at all it looks really weird
I hope that the game will not be as popular as the previous ones, because then there will be hope that the community will not be so toxic...
Looking forward to this. I'm actually fine with the television system; it saves design work on the liminal noncombat spaces between arenas and there are already loads of convenient offline games if I just want plain fighting. That said, there's no good reason something I'm grinding instead of actually playing for challenge or entertainment shouldn't optionally smooth itself out over time. The simple facts that you can dodge and that it seems a good percentage of the game's combat will not have hard or soft time limits reassures me that I needn't worry about the gacha being "unfair".
Am slightly upset both that big chunks of story still aren't conveniently replayable within an account (yes, this is always a problem to implement, but it's also something people really like to see) and that you're apparently still picking a sibling and never switching despite finally having a game world where this shouldn't present any story problems.
Honestly, even the background gameplay is boring me. Easy skip even if Hoyo.
(For me, opinion. I don’t speak in facts by default)
Just remember we’re fighting hilichurls right. This is hour 2
@@TheJelloShowis a gacha, hour 2 is what we’ll be playing for 8 years 😂 I’m just not interested in the Honkai Impact combat but maybe the story can carry it?
My real expectation is for them to keep updating the game with more endgame combat, just like they did with HSR. It started with MOC and (kinda) Simulated universe. But in the span of an year, we got two more "MOCs" and a new hardcore mode simulated universe. Hope ZZZ draws on that.
Still not interested in ZZZ. Those "changes" feel superficial. I can do the same boring mode but slightly faster? Woooow. I don't want do boring anything in my games. Did people forget games are entertainment or what? If a game is not engaging, I'm not playing it. It's not like my Steam library isn't loaded with fun games. If a new game wants to grab my attention it needs to compete for my time, with all the entertaining ones I'm slowly going through.
Just remove the tv mode.
They won't and thus the game in global is Dead On Arrival!!!!!
@@fastedwarrior7353 true and
genshit could never.
First?
Yes
idk, i dont wanna sound too negative, but there is literally nothing that seems fun about this game, first hoyo game i have literally 0 interest in trying, but we'll see
well that just sounds like the game isn't for you
It's a unique design. That is pretty much it. It's so casual and button clicking.
It's just a pretty normal gacha game. I'm not complaining, I play quite a lot of games like this.
Well if you really didn't wanna sound negative you'd have said something like the game isn't for you.
Crazy opinion fr😖, not even the combat?
@@KyHeartWillits not only left clicking and casual, there is so much more in the combat
If we can't run around as the characters, I think they should have some sort of teapot equivalent so you can at least "hang out" with your characters.
If we can come up with a suitable framing device. Do need to remember that your "main" character is publicly not supposed to know these people. You are acting as a middleman to private military contractors, and you and they all have day jobs to hide the fact. All combat takes place in areas immune by their nature to convenient surveillance, and you still aren't physically present.
U do
These playable characters appear around the map
No open world, bs gacha, energy based "casual" game, full of chores like tv mod, generic action combat. This game brings nothing fresh or new. Just hi3rd with a fresh coat of paint.
"is just HI3 with a fresh coat of paint"
GOOD. ZZZ is basically HI3 without all the crap that made that game unbearable. No stamina on story, no gacha artifacts, no PVP P2W endgame (but instead two great modes just like HSR) ,better combat, parry and air combat from the start, and QTEs are a full-blown mechanics. And gearing is just like Genshin, which isn't that great, but is better than HSR relic system and HI3 gacha stigmata
As if you people are worshiping the genshin at home game from the hoyo at home company excatly because it does 90% the same as what another game did. How dare hoyo make a game that is like another game they made many years ago??? Well, maybe they want to have a new action game.
U know that we can craft signature stigmata of part 2 also they don't have that rng shit and hi3 story take stamina but game give so much that there's literally no problem in hi3 stamina and there is no level limitations on story etc. also if there is a pvp in game ofc that game is gonna is p2w.honkai doesn't have 50-50 bullshit in both weapon and character banner@@BasedMan88x88
How is ZZZ more fresh and new when fast paced combat has already been done with HI3, PGR, and soon WuWa? While the urban theme and setting is fresh, it is hampered by ugly furry character designs IMO (my opinion here on character design) and an uninteresting TV system that players spend more time on than combat even after QoL changes, and the combat while fast paced doesn’t offer a lot of depth imo. Like the auto-parry is one of the worst ways to make a parry with how not engaging it feels. If I look at Lee hyperreal or Lee palefire from PGR, I’d rather play that than Billy tbh, but that’s just me. The game is not for me at the end of day… If others will enjoy it, more power to them.
Personally PJR and HI3 don’t feel fresh to me they feel dated. And the combat at least until mid game for WW and ZZZ feels about the same in terms of difficulty and complexity. The difficulty ramp in this beta helps a lot.
ZZZ feels more satisfying, whereas WW seems to have a higher ceiling. WW feels like a retread of Genshin, ZZZ feels more fresh
There’s not too many furry characters you don’t have to play as them. That’s what I do 😅 but totally I don’t think ZZZ is objectively better or anything, this is just how I feel after playing both
ZZZ is lame its just more TV content that is easy and very boring to play. Then again you need to make you Hoyoverse bucks so that is why you are playing this game. Most CC's don't actually enjoy what they are playing but only do it for the money and the all mighty views. WuWa is far better than ZZZ anyday of the week and that is the game I'll be playing it looks like a boatload of fun unlike ZZZ and HSR.
We'll see if wuwa Will survive. I Hope it Will but i'm not sure
Boring game. I will play at WW