The concept behind the price structuring really gave a very good perspective from the business POV. It also translate into what I've seen around my circle which are Interior Designers struggling to survive because of the minimal ROIs while constantly having to provide maximum services all while servicing more than 8 houses at one go. No wonder IDs get jaded and the work produced are all such a mess. Furthermore, this price structuring conversation can apply to other forms of businesses as well and not necessarily just in ID industry. Really good takeaway for me!
Just want to share my past experience on renovating my bungalow... You could outsource a designer from china or fiverr for few hundred bucks, unlimited editing or changes received quotation from more than 10 ID firms quoting 900k to renovate Contractor could do it for 350k End result is the same as long as you have the time to monitor the entire process
An ID here, a client make wanted to make a major change to a wardrobes layout midway through the installation. Design was confirmed, provided renderings, dimension and even signed the quotation of the confirmed design. She was nitpicking how ugly it was despite I chip in my experience way beforehand it won't be functional, proceeds to ignore my advice and eventually fabricated out. Thats when she feedback to me why did I not stand my ground to insist that my initial advice was much functioninal. She even said words like "You are the designer what, i believe you and now this kind of things happen, so ugly please change it" Proceeds to find minor workmanship flaws and say its not acceptable and leverage it to change the entire thing FOC Still insisted to change it but only willing to pay 10% extra of the specific item(including laminate) Complained to my superior how incompetent am I at this job. Till this day im traumatised by it. Condo owner at serangoon
Having worked in design field for about 10 years before switching to main con around 4 years ago, I would say for designers it is important to know the technical part too, especially when it comes to drawing the detailing/shopdrawing. With the knowledge, a designer can better understand if the design is workable or not and better communicate with contractors on site. I’ve seen some designers being over reliant on contractors on the technical & execution part, and sometimes got ‘eaten’. At the end many issues start to surface and extra time/cost is needed to resolve them
Those contractors who claims to be designers are the problem. I think we should have some options where we can check if they really do have the professional qualifications to call himself a designer.
Bca got a guideline to regulate what're the common defects. Home checkers now need to be bca certified before can provide defect check service. Cannot anyhow list anything as defects.
Very helpful video and so true. Quotations from contractors are strangely more expensive than IDs. Are spelling mistakes in quotations red flags too? Means the ID or contractor doesn't pay attention to details?
great content, personally prefer a closer shot instead of a wide angle shot, distracted by the background lol plus couldnt see your expressions clearly - interesting perspectives, maybe a content with homeowners about their own good/poor reno experience? and how homeowners can manage their own expectation, because when i did my family home's first reno, the 'norms' that our id mentioned were not known to us
Designer will tell you what you must do or don't need to do, according to your budget. Contractor will quote you everything they can do, according to your budget.
Alot of ah beng ID these days. There's only a handful of good ID who really listen to home owners what they want and plan for them. Once contract signed they don't return text or call and don't follow up on the project because they don't know what to do becos the contractor can't continue with the job because ID company never pay contractor for past jobs. This is why most homeowners renovation is slow or stuck but ID will give homeowners excuses.
for the longest time reno industry have had a bad name, rotating door of ID from one firm to the other, ID that give drawings that are 'inspired' from other designers. I think owners should only go for ID firms that are willing to take accountability of issues that arises between their IDs and home owners. Renovation is stressful stuff, before even signing anything with ID firm should check with contractors / architects and other ID firms to have a sense of pricing for similar items, the truth is that you can pay more AND still have issues with quality, service and speed.
Once you confirmed an ID with a company. Then the adds on price too exorbitant, even after multiple discussion cannot align? What can home owners do? I.e. people do curves+250 each. Then the ID wanna charge 1000? Find own subcon come do? Also hard leh.
These pricing can be aligned with IDs from the start. Either case, you can also consider to ask them to quote for specific items and put them under the TBA section of the quote. So in the event you’d like to add them on, the pricing is transparent for all parties. If it wasn’t discussed, then is down to owner and ID negotiation and discussion le.
The concept behind the price structuring really gave a very good perspective from the business POV. It also translate into what I've seen around my circle which are Interior Designers struggling to survive because of the minimal ROIs while constantly having to provide maximum services all while servicing more than 8 houses at one go. No wonder IDs get jaded and the work produced are all such a mess.
Furthermore, this price structuring conversation can apply to other forms of businesses as well and not necessarily just in ID industry. Really good takeaway for me!
Just want to share my past experience on renovating my bungalow...
You could outsource a designer from china or fiverr for few hundred bucks, unlimited editing or changes
received quotation from more than 10 ID firms quoting 900k to renovate
Contractor could do it for 350k
End result is the same as long as you have the time to monitor the entire process
An ID here, a client make wanted to make a major change to a wardrobes layout midway through the installation. Design was confirmed, provided renderings, dimension and even signed the quotation of the confirmed design.
She was nitpicking how ugly it was despite I chip in my experience way beforehand it won't be functional, proceeds to ignore my advice and eventually fabricated out. Thats when she feedback to me why did I not stand my ground to insist that my initial advice was much functioninal. She even said words like "You are the designer what, i believe you and now this kind of things happen, so ugly please change it" Proceeds to find minor workmanship flaws and say its not acceptable and leverage it to change the entire thing FOC
Still insisted to change it but only willing to pay 10% extra of the specific item(including laminate) Complained to my superior how incompetent am I at this job. Till this day im traumatised by it. Condo owner at serangoon
always get a sign off on a design plan and keep a black and white record on change fees
Having worked in design field for about 10 years before switching to main con around 4 years ago, I would say for designers it is important to know the technical part too, especially when it comes to drawing the detailing/shopdrawing. With the knowledge, a designer can better understand if the design is workable or not and better communicate with contractors on site. I’ve seen some designers being over reliant on contractors on the technical & execution part, and sometimes got ‘eaten’. At the end many issues start to surface and extra time/cost is needed to resolve them
Interesting video! Truly depicts about the market and ID/Contractor's sorrows! Hope this video will go viral!
ID took on many projects which they can't follow thru, ie coordinating reno projects, fail to be on site
Those contractors who claims to be designers are the problem. I think we should have some options where we can check if they really do have the professional qualifications to call himself a designer.
Maybe can do a video on how to remove VOC/Formaldehyde
Bca got a guideline to regulate what're the common defects. Home checkers now need to be bca certified before can provide defect check service. Cannot anyhow list anything as defects.
Industry standard lah. But must make good to the nail or screw holes. Like putting wood putty or sticker with close color.
Very helpful video and so true. Quotations from contractors are strangely more expensive than IDs.
Are spelling mistakes in quotations red flags too? Means the ID or contractor doesn't pay attention to details?
great content, personally prefer a closer shot instead of a wide angle shot, distracted by the background lol plus couldnt see your expressions clearly - interesting perspectives, maybe a content with homeowners about their own good/poor reno experience? and how homeowners can manage their own expectation, because when i did my family home's first reno, the 'norms' that our id mentioned were not known to us
Interesting topic will there be a part 2 ? Good education for everyone 👍
One day I will be your client MYD, not just for the quality but to also learn how to be a great boss through the process .
Designer will tell you what you must do or don't need to do, according to your budget. Contractor will quote you everything they can do, according to your budget.
Even if u itemise out for inexperienced home owners how will they know what should be there on the quote
Alot of ah beng ID these days. There's only a handful of good ID who really listen to home owners what they want and plan for them. Once contract signed they don't return text or call and don't follow up on the project because they don't know what to do becos the contractor can't continue with the job because ID company never pay contractor for past jobs. This is why most homeowners renovation is slow or stuck but ID will give homeowners excuses.
Will it be cheaper if we just cut out photos from the magazines and give it to the designer to follow?
lmao 'must quote for the mental stress' is so relatable XD
Finally someone spotted Chris after being in TikTok for quite some time
for the longest time reno industry have had a bad name, rotating door of ID from one firm to the other, ID that give drawings that are 'inspired' from other designers. I think owners should only go for ID firms that are willing to take accountability of issues that arises between their IDs and home owners. Renovation is stressful stuff, before even signing anything with ID firm should check with contractors / architects and other ID firms to have a sense of pricing for similar items, the truth is that you can pay more AND still have issues with quality, service and speed.
Once you confirmed an ID with a company. Then the adds on price too exorbitant, even after multiple discussion cannot align? What can home owners do? I.e. people do curves+250 each. Then the ID wanna charge 1000? Find own subcon come do? Also hard leh.
These pricing can be aligned with IDs from the start. Either case, you can also consider to ask them to quote for specific items and put them under the TBA section of the quote. So in the event you’d like to add them on, the pricing is transparent for all parties.
If it wasn’t discussed, then is down to owner and ID negotiation and discussion le.
How about Architect?
........You ok or not...Architect only design building or modification
Designer Sell Dreams. Contractor or builder they build the Dream. Not all Designer can be Contractor. But any Contractor can be Designer
MYD as usual, typical sales man. Full of reasoning to justify his case and point
this chris guy so arrogant on his own platform, now come to other ppl's video acting like a humbled person. pui.