I think you made a great choice Terry! I started a business with a 24-105mm lens almost a decade ago. As much as I love fast primes, time is money - being able to walk into a client shoot and quickly capture wide / mid / tele shots on the fly as things are happening is what gets the shot most of the time.
I agree, I haven't got a zoom lens yet but when I'm on shoot and things are happening quickly I'm there faffing around with deciding what lens, swapping lens and missing epic shot opportunities
Just want to boost your motivation by saying that i found myself watching your videos from start to finish without even skipping sponsor mentions. I actually noticed it. A the reason for that is the way you talk, your tone and pace, it's just pleasant to listen. And of course the picture quality. You rock man! I can definitely see you in top tier list of TH-camrs soon. Keep it up
If I can have only one lens, it is 24-70 f2.8. But if I can but couple lenses, I definitely go primes. My opinion, people believes primes are harder to shoot with, but when you zooming, you should understand what are you doing. It's not about distance, it's different perspective. It's harder than you think. So you should choose focal distance first and then take a shot, but people like zooming in and out and just trying take some shots, without stepping back and forward.
I’ve been shooting with the 24-70 GM since it came out, and love it. Yes the primes are awesome...I just bought the 20mm f1.8 G lens and love it. But for walking around I always go for the 24-70.
@Rosie Carr I use both, but prefer the 20mm when I can use it. It's just so sharp and lightweight. Much easier to carry. Since then I added the 14mm prime, which is a lot of fun!
You know this is a heavy-ass lens when I purchased the 16-35 GM lens and I thought it was "light". I do love my 24-70, wish it was lighter but sometimes it's just the lens I need.
As long as you are happy that’s all that matters. Very good trade. I started with the 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8’s and now I am mostly all primes, but hey that’s me. I have been thinking about the 24mm f1.4 gm but I don’t know how much I will use it seeing I do more portraits of seniors, and couples than I do weddings. So I am on the fence on getting the 24mm.
Still here! I just did a similar trade, 135mm 1.8 GM for the 24-70 straight up. So far no regrets, it's more practical and less stressful using zooms for paid work but I still prefer primes for personal use.
With purchasing any camera gear, you first need to decide what you need the camera gear for, as far as what content you specifically create. And then obtain the gear for that particular NEED. Big difference between wants and needs. You made the right choice for your needs, the convenience of the zoom fits your needs better like you said "you're tired of the constant lens change
I have both the Sigma 24 Art + Sigma 24-70, I used them both on a recent video shoot and instantly could tell how much better the prime is. I feel like they both have a distinctive function in your bag. Paid vs Non Paid especially!
The 24mm 1.4 fits my needs better than a 24-70. The weight and the 1.4 for astrophotography are perfect for backpacking and hiking. Curious what you think would be better for street photography, though. 24-70, 35mm, or the 50 1.2. One of these will be my next investment.
I think it deoends if you run n gun or not. If you do somethig with group of people who are all rushing zoom is better to have much more shots and save time than carefully changing lenses. Primes are fine in studio where you have to of time, tried as nice workflow as with zoom
A huge reason for why I love my Lumix 12-35mm f2.8 is its compactness. However, the Sony 24-70mm is so so good. I agree with you; you should most definitely NOT regret your decision. The advantages are worth more with a zoom that good.
Bruh, I feel ya'! I picked up the Sony 24-70mm G ('Gangsta' Mode) for a steal at Lens Authority. This lens is razor sharp wide open. Amazing! No regrets, and I gave up a few primes to get it!
Obviously still here brother - also running the a7SIII and the 24-70mm G-Master and totally sharing your opinion about the sharpness and that it rather looks more „filmic“. All the best, keep up the good work!
I have a bad habit of never getting rid of gear until its obsolete or of no value. The pro, once I own something I never regret not having it. The con, I sit on stuff I never use and never get any compensation for selling/trading it.
@IMDABROWN, you’re talking about me. Hahaha! Makes me feel better when I do hand me downs to my nephews so that’s an option. And then gives you a reason to buy more with no regrets!
Depends on your photographic interests - I go for landscape so clarity, then lighter weight of lens - For macro I go all out clarity adding bokeh when possible - Great Post, loved your video
I got some cheap g1 zooms but I shoot prime tamron 35mm 1.8 and nifty 50. Im kinda thinking of getting the 70-200 2.8 then later a 15-30mm 2.8. It's really confusing cause there are so many ways to go with it I just wanna be well covered. I might just stay prime and grab a 85mm.
As much as I love my primes, 99% of the time I just keep my sigma 24-70 and tamron 70-180 in my backpack. They're both ridiculously sharp, great contrast/resolution and for the vast majority of what I do f2.8 is more than enough. If I could go back to when I started my lens collection, I'd have held off buying the primes (I was led to believe that primes are always going to be better than zooms) A 24-70 is an absolute workhorse of a lens.
I actually sold my 24-70GM to get the 24GM and later regretted it. I now have the 24-70 sigma, and I’ll never let it go. Gonna add more primes now, starting with the 35 GM I got last week. Cheers!
Still here. The one thing you hate about the size looks like it’s been fixed with the new 24-70. I’ve always been a prime fanatic but just ordered the new one and can’t wait!
Yes...no yes..maybe no? yes? They are such different lenses that open up such different doors! I struggled with getting an 24mm, decided to get the 20mm instead...why? its quieter. after f4 the 24mm gm starts making aperture noises which mess up video.
You made the right call. Standard zoom lenses are the most practical option for run-and-gun work. I love my Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 and my Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8.
I had this dilemma in the shop when I bough the 𝞪7s iii, I too settled on the Gangsta Mode FE 24-70 f2.8 and think it can handle 99% of what I need it for
Is that Titan chair? And if it is how do you like the comfort? I like fast zooms too. My dream set up is 24-70 2.8. 70-200 2.8. And a few super fast primes
You could make a video about whether to have cornflakes for breakfast or rice crispies and find a way to make it entertaining. Still here. Love the content you put out.
Still here! I went with the Sigma 24 AND the Sigma 24-70. Sometimes I hope there isn’t a lag in quality over Sony... but overall no issues for me as a hobbyist.
Hi Terry. I shot amovie, avtually, with the SONY 28-135, and that was with the SONY fx9, and that cam is a little bit shaprper than f. ex FX6(a7s II).....do you know, if the24-70 is any shaper than 28-135 ?
I can appreciate this. I have the sigma 24-70 2.8 art, the tamron 70-180 2.8 and a tokina 85 1.8 and I had been racking my brain trying to decide if 2.8 was good enough for portraiture in a street setting and if so which one to use.
quick question. i just bought a Sony a6400 for taking pic and videos of my son playing football, basketball, hiking, biking etc. Im looking for a 1 and done lens maybe 2 max.. can yall help me out..
#stillhere question I am debating between 24mm GM and Sigma 24-70. I do shoot a lot at night so leaning towards the 24mm f1.4. But the versatility of the 24-70 has me second guessing. But I do have a 50mm f1.4 prime and a 70-200 f2.8. Do you think the 24-70 would be enough of a benefit to pass on the 24mm prime?
Still Here! I am the same as you. I LOVE the look of primes, but the versatility of a zoom is my goto. I have the Sony FE 24-240 f3.5-6.3. It's been my goto for about 6 years now. Would love a faster zoom, but the range is so insane it makes up for it most of the time.
I just got the sony 24/70 2.8... I am impressed. I also have the 16/35 but this seems to be more what I need. I am happy but I do wish the zoom didnt barrel outward. makes it challenging on a gimbal for balancing purposes but still worth it. also, if they do make a mark2, I also will upgrade
#still here! Ugh, the age old trade off between primes and zooms. It's awesome to see their quality getting closer, now if they could just solve the size problem. For me, the size is a real drawback. It's such a hassle to carry around all day. #fam
Picture quality and lighting looks great in your studio! I also shoot with an a7siii and and an a7iii as my b camera and I’ve been having trouble matching the cameras in post to look the same. What picture profile do you recommend to do that besides s-log3?
Just got the 24-70 but managed to hold on to my 24mm. Love both these lenses. That 1.4 makes a huge difference and is a tool in itself. Love it so much. But Love the utility of the 24-70. So happy with both lenses. If I could only have one though, yeah I'd have to do the 24-70 just for the utility but that shallow depth of field is such a unique creative tool.
Hey Cameron, I'd like to get your input on my shooting situation. It's stationary. An a7s iii pointed at me as I teach drumset for youtube videos. It will be as close as I can get it so the students can see exactly what I'm doing. But the focus needs to be broad enough to take in the upper parts of the drumset where my sticks will be hittinf (cymbals and heads). And I rock back and forth etc while I"m playing, if that helps your choice LOL.
Still here. At the moment I use the tamron 28-75 2.8, and a couple of primes 14mm 2.8 and 85 1.4. I will say that since I only have one camera, its very practical to have a zoom lens. However I think that when I get another body and the 24 1.4 or the new 35 1.4, I might use more primes than the zoom. But time will tell. At the moment due to budget reasons and the practical reasons you talk about, I prefer to have a zoom on most of the time.
Thank you Terry! This was definitely a helpful video for someone who is contemplating which lenses to kick off with in my doco kit - thank you..First time I have been on your channel - look forward to checking out the rest of your vids - mean!
Also are you able, if you haven't done so, to make a video about switching from Canon to Sony? I"ve been all canon for 4ish years. I'm getting my first sony tomorrow. (a7s3)
So I just did the same thing I went from the 24mm f1.4 to the 24-70 gm ii, I hate swapping lens i think the dual native iso on the a7siii helps make up for the 1.4 low light capabilities loss.
watching this 3 years later haha... how you said you will never get rid of it... now when mark II is out and even better and sharper, did you get rid of it for a new one? ;-)
I traded in my Tamron 28-75 after 2 1/2 years. I just got bored of it. And it wasn’t wide enough. Just used primes. Then today ended up having to buy a 24-70mm 2.8 just because I have a major job I can’t f up. I was thinking of just using my batis primes but don’t know how fast situation might change
You nailed it down, it depends on your needs. One size doesn't fit all. I wanted the 24GM first and then decided to get the 24-70GM. Never regreted it because it has a way wider flexibility of use. Anyhow I wanted the 24GM mainly to shoot at night and do some video on a gimbal whereas the 24-70GM is way to heavy and I got it finally some weeks ago. That said your decision makes perfectly sense.
You have my absolute agreement, and I'm more photo than video; video is why a lot of Sony users get the 24mm. It's ungodly good. The colors, and just general image quality are HARD to compare to, it's t*ts. But the Sony 24-70 2.8 is STOOPID good for nailing as much versatility as possible. Not too mention that f/1.4 is too shallow for a LOT of applications. But mostly I dig your delivery, straight up and humble. Props.
I just recently got a prime for my A7riii. All my other glass is Tamron zooms. I may pick up another prime at some point, but for right now zooms fit me and my style much better
Still here. I bought the 24 GM after your review and many others that I had watched..but I still think it is big. However I wouldn't buy that heavy GM zoom lens if it were just $500 dollars because it's way too heavy for me. So anyway, recently I was looking for an 85mm but I just blew most of it on a new stroller from Canada, the Dogger, for my older fur girl and I was on Shutterfly ordering things.. They get me every time, lol. With what's left of my stimulus I may just go for a budget 85 lens.
As much as I love a prime - if I could only have 1 lens it would be a 24-70; and by the way - the Sigma 24-70 DG DN Art for Sony is amazing; some days you only want to take 1 lens with you and on those days - the extra weight is offset by what you are not carrying in your bag!
For photo I depend on the extra reach of the 24-105. I can't give it up for a 24-70 even for the advantages of the GM (having never experienced the quality of the 24-70 myself). If I ran two bodies, there are a lot more options. I'm run and gun in the mountains so I can live with f4.
@@TerryWarfield I have the 24 - 70 GM and gave up the 24 - 105 because I checked the last 3 years of photos in Lightroom and saw I only have 15 percent of shots over 70 - 105 and my family noticed the images were better on the GM without me telling them that it was a different lens. Love the 24 - 105 for years but the GM is fantastic.
Yes the 2470 is heavy BUT 2.8 from 24 to 70! From all reviews of the 24 1.4 Astro MW users use at 2 or 2.8 any way!!! BUT BUT ALSO "IF" you do night shots that need faster shots to stop movement a 1.4 or 1.8 is nice to have. This lens is so sharp the entire range you can pixel peep 300x sand on a beach and get lost counting the grains of sharp in focus sand around a subject 12 ft away at 5.6.
for wide lens...i dont really care , zoom lens is good enough...but for long focal lens especially portrait, prime lens definitely a better choice. I am having Tamron 35-150mm 2.0-2.8. the sharpness cannot compare to my 85mm 1.8 at the same focal lens
if you're gonna do primes for anything remotely run&gun, you need at least 2 camera bodies. if you've got the R3 or R4, you can hit the crop mode button for some extra reach too. it's like being a limo driver instead of an uber driver.
I've got the Sigma 24-70mm and I love it! That being said, down the road, I could see myself getting a 24mm 1.4 for specific uses like gimbal work as it's just a lighter setup.
I love my 85 1.8 and will keep it forever for portraits, but a 2.8 zoom more than fits my needs (just got the Tamron 28-75), though I do want to get a wider prime for landscape to play with.
Amazing video, this is exactly what I was looking for. I'm trying to decide if I want to get the 24mm 1.4, or the 35mm 1.4 to pair with my 50mm 1.2 but the other option is this 24-70 to do it all. low light performance is super important for my hiking and backpacking videos, I'm so torn.
still here ! #FAM ! I can feel you i just sold the sigma 50mm 1.4 art for the tamron 28-75 2.8 and i dont regret it. i prefer versatility than 1.4 that i almost never use. also the sharpness is equally the same to my eyes!
Still here bro, great video! What do you think about the sony 20mm G? 500€ between 24mm GM and the 20mm G. I want a lens for product photos and maybe some travel pics, street photography etc. I think the 20mm G is a good option aye?
Still here. I like both prime and zoom lenses; it depends on the situation. If I'm travelling and I bring only one lens, it'll probably be a zoom lens. In some cases I might dual wield two camera bodies each with their own prime, with a zoom lens to maybe use as a backup in case one body breaks.
Looks like the mkii will be announced soon. Will you still get the mkii or do you think the mki is good enough. I have just traded my 135gm for the 70-200 gm mkii and was thinking of trading my 24gm for the 24-70gm, but now waiting to see if the mkii comes out. Would be good if they could make it internal zoom as well. #fam
Hi Terri, thanks so much for this video. Not only is it answering a lot of my questions, but it's causing more turmoil about which one of these lenses to get! You do a lot of shooting in all sorts of situations. I think you'd know exactly what to do if you owned both of these lenses. My deal is indoor only, with lighting that will hopefully be something like you have in your studio where you shot your "BIG MISTAKE?? SONY 24-70mm F2.8 over SONY 24mm F1.4??" video. I'm going to make drum lesson videos. My front camera will be an alpha 7S iii. Which of these two lenses, if you owned both, would you prefer to use to shoot from the same height, same angle, same composition, day-in and day-out? The camera will never be moved, and taken somewhere else.
#FAM Just had to go back to this video and say that I sold my 24 GM lens for the 16-35 2.8. Because the more I shoot, the more I realize that I prefer doing a run & gun type of style. Just being able to go handheld then to snap my camera into my gimbal without needing to change lens or rebalance my gimbal has been a game changer for me. I have also understood through out my experience that you don't always have to shoot at 1.4 for videos. I found myself needing to shoot at or above 2.8 anyways to get more details in focus. Im starting to believe that 1.4's are great for photos, but not necessary for videos... UNLESS! You need extra light in darker scenarios. Anyways, I felt like sharing that since you had to part ways with your 24 GM lens. I had the option to keep my 24 and have the 16-35 GM. But I felt like it was weird to have that focal length twice in my line up of lenses.
Yo yo Terry really liked your opinion piece on the lens swap. My rap on the deal is if you have a Sony A7m3 for video the Sony and sigma lenses are probably best because of the crop factor @ 30p. But, the tamron zooms are definitely much more walk around friendly and for 2nd cam work it's great. Cj
I think you made a great choice Terry! I started a business with a 24-105mm lens almost a decade ago. As much as I love fast primes, time is money - being able to walk into a client shoot and quickly capture wide / mid / tele shots on the fly as things are happening is what gets the shot most of the time.
I agree, I haven't got a zoom lens yet but when I'm on shoot and things are happening quickly I'm there faffing around with deciding what lens, swapping lens and missing epic shot opportunities
so im probs gunna get the sigma
This makes a ton of sense because you ended up with a lens that fits your needs better. Appreciate you sharing your process 👊🏻 still here
Just want to boost your motivation by saying that i found myself watching your videos from start to finish without even skipping sponsor mentions. I actually noticed it. A the reason for that is the way you talk, your tone and pace, it's just pleasant to listen. And of course the picture quality. You rock man! I can definitely see you in top tier list of TH-camrs soon. Keep it up
Agreed!
If I can have only one lens, it is 24-70 f2.8. But if I can but couple lenses, I definitely go primes. My opinion, people believes primes are harder to shoot with, but when you zooming, you should understand what are you doing. It's not about distance, it's different perspective. It's harder than you think. So you should choose focal distance first and then take a shot, but people like zooming in and out and just trying take some shots, without stepping back and forward.
For documentaries and some vlogs would you recommend 16-35 gm or 24-70 gm
I’ve been shooting with the 24-70 GM since it came out, and love it. Yes the primes are awesome...I just bought the 20mm f1.8 G lens and love it. But for walking around I always go for the 24-70.
I have the Sigma 24 -70, and I’m highly considering the 20 mm. in your opinion does the 20mm make a huge difference compared to 24mm?
@Rosie Carr I use both, but prefer the 20mm when I can use it. It's just so sharp and lightweight. Much easier to carry. Since then I added the 14mm prime, which is a lot of fun!
You know this is a heavy-ass lens when I purchased the 16-35 GM lens and I thought it was "light". I do love my 24-70, wish it was lighter but sometimes it's just the lens I need.
20 1.8G is better than the 24GM IMO and I've owned both for some time! Now I use the 20G, 24-70Art, and 85GM, dream team
As long as you are happy that’s all that matters. Very good trade. I started with the 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8’s and now I am mostly all primes, but hey that’s me. I have been thinking about the 24mm f1.4 gm but I don’t know how much I will use it seeing I do more portraits of seniors, and couples than I do weddings. So I am on the fence on getting the 24mm.
Still here, just picked up a Sony A7iii
Nice!!!!!
nice work bro ... I went W the Sigma 24-70 & the 24 1.4 for close to the same price as the Sony 24-70 by itself
how you finding the 24-70 bro
Still here! I just did a similar trade, 135mm 1.8 GM for the 24-70 straight up. So far no regrets, it's more practical and less stressful using zooms for paid work but I still prefer primes for personal use.
Are you getting the sigma 28 to 70 2.8 since its suuper light
Nope unfortunately I need at least 24mm on the wide end 😕
With purchasing any camera gear, you first need to decide what you need the camera gear for, as far as what content you specifically create. And then obtain the gear for that particular NEED. Big difference between wants and needs. You made the right choice for your needs, the convenience of the zoom fits your needs better like you said "you're tired of the constant lens change
I have both the Sigma 24 Art + Sigma 24-70, I used them both on a recent video shoot and instantly could tell how much better the prime is. I feel like they both have a distinctive function in your bag. Paid vs Non Paid especially!
I have the sigma 24-70 too. But not the 24 prime. Instead I have the sigma 20mm 1.4 for night time street film work and oh boy are the results clean
@@sidehustlers336 cant go wrong with that at all!
YOUR CAMERA QUALITY IS AMAZING!!!!!
“Gangsta mode G master” HAHA love your energy man! 💯✔️🔥
That barn door in the background is friggin’ epic. And… just found you. Killer stuff!
The 24mm 1.4 fits my needs better than a 24-70. The weight and the 1.4 for astrophotography are perfect for backpacking and hiking. Curious what you think would be better for street photography, though. 24-70, 35mm, or the 50 1.2. One of these will be my next investment.
You made a great trade based on value alone but I'd personally rather have two primes than one zoom.
Depends what zoom lens to compare with primes...
I think it deoends if you run n gun or not. If you do somethig with group of people who are all rushing zoom is better to have much more shots and save time than carefully changing lenses. Primes are fine in studio where you have to of time, tried as nice workflow as with zoom
In my canon days 24-70 was one of my fav all purpose lens. Just got a Sony A74 yesterday and today I’m picking up the sigma 24-70.
Sigma makes some great lenses for Sony. I also have the sigma 20-70.
A huge reason for why I love my Lumix 12-35mm f2.8 is its compactness. However, the Sony 24-70mm is so so good.
I agree with you; you should most definitely NOT regret your decision. The advantages are worth more with a zoom that good.
Bro, the fact that you call the GM “gangsta mode” insta sub.
Bruh, I feel ya'! I picked up the Sony 24-70mm G ('Gangsta' Mode) for a steal at Lens Authority. This lens is razor sharp wide open. Amazing! No regrets, and I gave up a few primes to get it!
Good to hear you're enjoying the 24-70, and that it's razor sharp! Deciding on the 24-70 vs a 50 and 24.
Obviously still here brother - also running the a7SIII and the 24-70mm G-Master and totally sharing your opinion about the sharpness and that it rather looks more „filmic“. All the best, keep up the good work!
Good to hear of the sharpness from the 24-70.
I have a bad habit of never getting rid of gear until its obsolete or of no value. The pro, once I own something I never regret not having it. The con, I sit on stuff I never use and never get any compensation for selling/trading it.
I hear ya man
@IMDABROWN, you’re talking about me. Hahaha!
Makes me feel better when I do hand me downs to my nephews so that’s an option. And then gives you a reason to buy more with no regrets!
@@nomad0714 yeah I was doing hand me downs to my nephew, but the next day it was in the pawn shop.
Depends on your photographic interests - I go for landscape so clarity, then lighter weight of lens - For macro I go all out clarity adding bokeh when possible - Great Post, loved your video
I got some cheap g1 zooms but I shoot prime tamron 35mm 1.8 and nifty 50. Im kinda thinking of getting the 70-200 2.8 then later a 15-30mm 2.8. It's really confusing cause there are so many ways to go with it I just wanna be well covered. I might just stay prime and grab a 85mm.
really like your channel and specially this video! With what lens are you shooting this youtube video?
As much as I love my primes, 99% of the time I just keep my sigma 24-70 and tamron 70-180 in my backpack. They're both ridiculously sharp, great contrast/resolution and for the vast majority of what I do f2.8 is more than enough. If I could go back to when I started my lens collection, I'd have held off buying the primes (I was led to believe that primes are always going to be better than zooms) A 24-70 is an absolute workhorse of a lens.
I actually sold my 24-70GM to get the 24GM and later regretted it. I now have the 24-70 sigma, and I’ll never let it go. Gonna add more primes now, starting with the 35 GM I got last week. Cheers!
Which was better the GM or Sigma?
@@averageguy1261 GM
@@MJAdams-js7np thanks for the pro tip. There are a couple of GM 1 within range of my budget. Cheers
Still here....I just bought the 24-70mm F2.8, I know the new version is better, but I got this one pon sale, but my body is an a6000. Any tips?
Still here. The one thing you hate about the size looks like it’s been fixed with the new 24-70. I’ve always been a prime fanatic but just ordered the new one and can’t wait!
Yes...no yes..maybe no? yes? They are such different lenses that open up such different doors! I struggled with getting an 24mm, decided to get the 20mm instead...why? its quieter. after f4 the 24mm gm starts making aperture noises which mess up video.
You made the right call. Standard zoom lenses are the most practical option for run-and-gun work. I love my Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 and my Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8.
moving to zoom lens from prime lens is kinda challenging. been there in your situation.
I had this dilemma in the shop when I bough the 𝞪7s iii, I too settled on the Gangsta Mode FE 24-70 f2.8 and think it can handle 99% of what I need it for
Ha, ha, yes the GM 24-70 is heavy but a really great lens for event photography. The 24 mm comes in handy in tight spaces.
Still Here! Picking up a 24-70 G Master this evening! Thanks for making the video.
Nice!!! You are going to love it.
Is that Titan chair? And if it is how do you like the comfort? I like fast zooms too. My dream set up is 24-70 2.8. 70-200 2.8. And a few super fast primes
Plus 70mm 2.8 is damn nice for some portraits!
You could make a video about whether to have cornflakes for breakfast or rice crispies and find a way to make it entertaining. Still here. Love the content you put out.
Thanks so much for that!!!!
I love the 24-70mm gm...my arm gets a workout with it, but the image quality plus versatility makes it all worth it.
Would the 24-70mm be better for vlogging than the 16-35mm G Master?
Still here! I went with the Sigma 24 AND the Sigma 24-70. Sometimes I hope there isn’t a lag in quality over Sony... but overall no issues for me as a hobbyist.
Excellent choices!! There is really no noticeable difference in them vs their Sony competitors for hobbyists.
Hi Terry. I shot amovie, avtually, with the SONY 28-135, and that was with the SONY fx9, and that cam is a little bit shaprper than f. ex FX6(a7s II).....do you know, if the24-70 is any shaper than 28-135 ?
have you ever considered the tamron 28-75 2.8 or the new one from sigma? or is 28mm not wide enough for you?
Not wide enough for me. Had it for 2 years
I can appreciate this. I have the sigma 24-70 2.8 art, the tamron 70-180 2.8 and a tokina 85 1.8 and I had been racking my brain trying to decide if 2.8 was good enough for portraiture in a street setting and if so which one to use.
quick question. i just bought a Sony a6400 for taking pic and videos of my son playing football, basketball, hiking, biking etc. Im looking for a 1 and done lens maybe 2 max.. can yall help me out..
I was sad for you to lose your 24GM prime. I love mine and I also love my Tamron 28-75 f2.8.
#stillhere question I am debating between 24mm GM and Sigma 24-70. I do shoot a lot at night so leaning towards the 24mm f1.4. But the versatility of the 24-70 has me second guessing. But I do have a 50mm f1.4 prime and a 70-200 f2.8. Do you think the 24-70 would be enough of a benefit to pass on the 24mm prime?
Still here. I got a Sigma 35m 1.4 but I'm debating getting a 24-70 to replace it. Mainly doing automotive photography
Still Here!
I am the same as you. I LOVE the look of primes, but the versatility of a zoom is my goto. I have the Sony FE 24-240 f3.5-6.3. It's been my goto for about 6 years now. Would love a faster zoom, but the range is so insane it makes up for it most of the time.
I've been looking at the Sony 24mm F1.4 for astrophotography and car photography. What do you think of the Viltrox 24mm F1.8 compared to the Sony?
I just got the sony 24/70 2.8... I am impressed. I also have the 16/35 but this seems to be more what I need. I am happy but I do wish the zoom didnt barrel outward. makes it challenging on a gimbal for balancing purposes but still worth it. also, if they do make a mark2, I also will upgrade
#still here! Ugh, the age old trade off between primes and zooms. It's awesome to see their quality getting closer, now if they could just solve the size problem. For me, the size is a real drawback. It's such a hassle to carry around all day. #fam
Size and weight
Picture quality and lighting looks great in your studio! I also shoot with an a7siii and and an a7iii as my b camera and I’ve been having trouble matching the cameras in post to look the same. What picture profile do you recommend to do that besides s-log3?
Just got the 24-70 but managed to hold on to my 24mm. Love both these lenses. That 1.4 makes a huge difference and is a tool in itself. Love it so much. But Love the utility of the 24-70. So happy with both lenses. If I could only have one though, yeah I'd have to do the 24-70 just for the utility but that shallow depth of field is such a unique creative tool.
Also, love the video - transparent and straight to the point.
Hey Cameron, I'd like to get your input on my shooting situation. It's stationary. An a7s iii pointed at me as I teach drumset for youtube videos. It will be as close as I can get it so the students can see exactly what I'm doing. But the focus needs to be broad enough to take in the upper parts of the drumset where my sticks will be hittinf (cymbals and heads). And I rock back and forth etc while I"m playing, if that helps your choice LOL.
Still here. At the moment I use the tamron 28-75 2.8, and a couple of primes 14mm 2.8 and 85 1.4. I will say that since I only have one camera, its very practical to have a zoom lens. However I think that when I get another body and the 24 1.4 or the new 35 1.4, I might use more primes than the zoom. But time will tell. At the moment due to budget reasons and the practical reasons you talk about, I prefer to have a zoom on most of the time.
Your b-roll is fantastic, great camera presence, and great information right to the point. I'm looking forward to watching your channel blow up.
Thank you Terry! This was definitely a helpful video for someone who is contemplating which lenses to kick off with in my doco kit - thank you..First time I have been on your channel - look forward to checking out the rest of your vids - mean!
Also are you able, if you haven't done so, to make a video about switching from Canon to Sony? I"ve been all canon for 4ish years. I'm getting my first sony tomorrow. (a7s3)
Have you had any time with the lens on a gimbal? If so how did you find it
Yep filmed this video on a gimbal S-CINETONE TEST! - SONY A7SIII + 24-70mm f2.8 GM
So I just did the same thing I went from the 24mm f1.4 to the 24-70 gm ii, I hate swapping lens i think the dual native iso on the a7siii helps make up for the 1.4 low light capabilities loss.
Does the Sony a7 IV also help with low light with a 2.8?
watching this 3 years later haha... how you said you will never get rid of it... now when mark II is out and even better and sharper, did you get rid of it for a new one? ;-)
I traded in my Tamron 28-75 after 2 1/2 years. I just got bored of it. And it wasn’t wide enough. Just used primes. Then today ended up having to buy a 24-70mm 2.8 just because I have a major job I can’t f up. I was thinking of just using my batis primes but don’t know how fast situation might change
You nailed it down, it depends on your needs. One size doesn't fit all. I wanted the 24GM first and then decided to get the 24-70GM. Never regreted it because it has a way wider flexibility of use. Anyhow I wanted the 24GM mainly to shoot at night and do some video on a gimbal whereas the 24-70GM is way to heavy and I got it finally some weeks ago. That said your decision makes perfectly sense.
Thinking about going with the 24-70 instead of my 35mm 1.4!
Can u tell me what have you decided and how it is?
Can u tell us what have u decided?
@@yasminebenbader4368 I ended up with both lenses and they’re both great!
ive to choose today I will probably go with 24-70 but the technology is really belong to 2016?!
Love your videos man! your personality is even better! Much love!
Do you have the Sigma 24 - 70 or the Tamron 17 - 70?
I literally just reviewed the Tamron 17-70. Check my recent videos. (About a week ago)
You have my absolute agreement, and I'm more photo than video; video is why a lot of Sony users get the 24mm. It's ungodly good. The colors, and just general image quality are HARD to compare to, it's t*ts. But the Sony 24-70 2.8 is STOOPID good for nailing as much versatility as possible. Not too mention that f/1.4 is too shallow for a LOT of applications. But mostly I dig your delivery, straight up and humble. Props.
I just recently got a prime for my A7riii. All my other glass is Tamron zooms. I may pick up another prime at some point, but for right now zooms fit me and my style much better
Same here. The versatility is great
Still here. I bought the 24 GM after your review and many others that I had watched..but I still think it is big.
However I wouldn't buy that heavy GM zoom lens if it were just $500 dollars because it's way too heavy for me.
So anyway, recently I was looking for an 85mm but I just blew most of it on a new stroller from Canada, the Dogger, for my older fur girl and I was on Shutterfly ordering things.. They get me every time, lol.
With what's left of my stimulus I may just go for a budget 85 lens.
As much as I love a prime - if I could only have 1 lens it would be a 24-70; and by the way - the Sigma 24-70 DG DN Art for Sony is amazing; some days you only want to take 1 lens with you and on those days - the extra weight is offset by what you are not carrying in your bag!
Bruh I have the 16-35 GM on my a7siii and I always find myself wanting the extra reach. One of the 24-70's will be bought.
That’s why I went for the 24-70. I always wanted that 16-35 but was worried about the reach
For photo I depend on the extra reach of the 24-105. I can't give it up for a 24-70 even for the advantages of the GM (having never experienced the quality of the 24-70 myself). If I ran two bodies, there are a lot more options. I'm run and gun in the mountains so I can live with f4.
@@TerryWarfield I have the 24 - 70 GM and gave up the 24 - 105 because I checked the last 3 years of photos in Lightroom and saw I only have 15 percent of shots over 70 - 105 and my family noticed the images were better on the GM without me telling them that it was a different lens. Love the 24 - 105 for years but the GM is fantastic.
whats your opinion on 35-150 f2-2.8 lens
I reviewed it about a year ago, here’s my opiions on it th-cam.com/video/4lN0my_QWbo/w-d-xo.html
Yes the 2470 is heavy BUT 2.8 from 24 to 70! From all reviews of the 24 1.4 Astro MW users use at 2 or 2.8 any way!!! BUT BUT ALSO "IF" you do night shots that need faster shots to stop movement a 1.4 or 1.8 is nice to have. This lens is so sharp the entire range you can pixel peep 300x sand on a beach and get lost counting the grains of sharp in focus sand around a subject 12 ft away at 5.6.
for wide lens...i dont really care , zoom lens is good enough...but for long focal lens especially portrait, prime lens definitely a better choice. I am having Tamron 35-150mm 2.0-2.8. the sharpness cannot compare to my 85mm 1.8 at the same focal lens
I have the GM 24-70 and GM 16-35 on my A7iii. Love both lens
what do you use both for?
I've got the whole Tamron trinity zoom line up. I do eventually want to sell the 17-28 and get the Sony 16-35 2.8.
if you're gonna do primes for anything remotely run&gun, you need at least 2 camera bodies.
if you've got the R3 or R4, you can hit the crop mode button for some extra reach too.
it's like being a limo driver instead of an uber driver.
Absolutely, it's all comes down to what your personal needs are.
I've got the Sigma 24-70mm and I love it! That being said, down the road, I could see myself getting a 24mm 1.4 for specific uses like gimbal work as it's just a lighter setup.
I love my 85 1.8 and will keep it forever for portraits, but a 2.8 zoom more than fits my needs (just got the Tamron 28-75), though I do want to get a wider prime for landscape to play with.
Still here! Got a 35mm prime but I'm thinking about switching to the Sigma 24-70
Still here! #FAM I prefer Prime lenses for photos, and Zoom lenses for video. Great Vid. Later.🔥
Amazing video, this is exactly what I was looking for. I'm trying to decide if I want to get the 24mm 1.4, or the 35mm 1.4 to pair with my 50mm 1.2 but the other option is this 24-70 to do it all. low light performance is super important for my hiking and backpacking videos, I'm so torn.
I love Primes but for weddings I have to use zoom specially in tight places! For photo-shoots the 50mm f1.4 prime is perfect!
still here ! #FAM ! I can feel you i just sold the sigma 50mm 1.4 art for the tamron 28-75 2.8 and i dont regret it. i prefer versatility than 1.4 that i almost never use. also the sharpness is equally the same to my eyes!
Great to hear your experience, as I'm weighing the a 24-70 over a 50 and 24.
Just got the 24-70 can’t wait to test it.
Still here bro, great video! What do you think about the sony 20mm G? 500€ between 24mm GM and the 20mm G. I want a lens for product photos and maybe some travel pics, street photography etc. I think the 20mm G is a good option aye?
Primes for street photography (mostly in Japan cause everything is so packed) but zooms small gigs or in areas that I know I’ll need some reach
Still here.
I like both prime and zoom lenses; it depends on the situation. If I'm travelling and I bring only one lens, it'll probably be a zoom lens. In some cases I might dual wield two camera bodies each with their own prime, with a zoom lens to maybe use as a backup in case one body breaks.
That's the video with practical view I needed to decide: Sony 2470 GM vs Sony 35 GM.
Thx!
Looks like the mkii will be announced soon. Will you still get the mkii or do you think the mki is good enough. I have just traded my 135gm for the 70-200 gm mkii and was thinking of trading my 24gm for the 24-70gm, but now waiting to see if the mkii comes out. Would be good if they could make it internal zoom as well. #fam
Same. I LOVE primes but the 24-70 GM is on my camera 90% of the time because it does everything
Hi Terri, thanks so much for this video. Not only is it answering a lot of my questions, but it's causing more turmoil about which one of these lenses to get! You do a lot of shooting in all sorts of situations. I think you'd know exactly what to do if you owned both of these lenses. My deal is indoor only, with lighting that will hopefully be something like you have in your studio where you shot your "BIG MISTAKE?? SONY 24-70mm F2.8 over SONY 24mm F1.4??" video. I'm going to make drum lesson videos. My front camera will be an alpha 7S iii. Which of these two lenses, if you owned both, would you prefer to use to shoot from the same height, same angle, same composition, day-in and day-out? The camera will never be moved, and taken somewhere else.
#FAM
Just had to go back to this video and say that I sold my 24 GM lens for the 16-35 2.8. Because the more I shoot, the more I realize that I prefer doing a run & gun type of style. Just being able to go handheld then to snap my camera into my gimbal without needing to change lens or rebalance my gimbal has been a game changer for me. I have also understood through out my experience that you don't always have to shoot at 1.4 for videos. I found myself needing to shoot at or above 2.8 anyways to get more details in focus.
Im starting to believe that 1.4's are great for photos, but not necessary for videos... UNLESS! You need extra light in darker scenarios.
Anyways, I felt like sharing that since you had to part ways with your 24 GM lens. I had the option to keep my 24 and have the 16-35 GM. But I felt like it was weird to have that focal length twice in my line up of lenses.
Yo yo Terry really liked your opinion piece on the lens swap. My rap on the deal is if you have a Sony A7m3 for video the Sony and sigma lenses are probably best because of the crop factor @ 30p. But, the tamron zooms are definitely much more walk around friendly and for 2nd cam work it's great. Cj