Of all the sessions I wish we got a twitch stream of, today was one of them. Watching Matt squirm as Charles went foe to toe with people for 19 laps would have been hilarious
That time (like everyone else's) would be faster as well, after burning a few kilos of fuel in q2 & q3, so that time in q1 was exceptional, especially from a rookie in a mid car after a 1 year break.
I enjoyed this Sprint thoroughly. The format clearly delivers and I enjoyed Max's response to the question afterwards about why he performs so well in the Sprints.
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The Norris Leclerc incident was, in my opinion, far from a penalty. Norris placed his car on the inside way before the turn, anticipating and preventing a divebomb, not reacting to it. Leclerc was going for a future gap that didnt open and had to react to norris breaking earlier due to the tighter line. If they crash it's propably a racing incident, if not causing a collision by Leclerc.
I think Max was saving his absolute fastest lap until the very last lap, both in sprint qualifying as in normal qualifying. In all the earlier laps he didn't come close to track limits. In his last lap in both sessions he was way more on the edge.
Lando's defence last lap was fine - there was never a gap for Charles on the left. If there was a gap and he reactively closed it then fine, but there was never a gap and he didn't react to charles, he was always covering left.
This completely Lando made it bleedingly obviously which line he was taking, but leclerc already decided to overtake on the inside and was caught napping In reality, he probably could have swung around the outside with how compromised Lando was taking that line
@@DeadlysparkProbably a few corners before that one I knew Lando was going to defend the inside. All throughout the race that inside dive bomb was nearly impossible to defend once you've committed to the outside sweep. It was painfully obvious what was going to happen, Lando still fighting for the championship and it being the last lap, and Charles really should have expected it. I think someone like Alonso or Lewis would expect it more and be able to go around the outside and cut back to overtake on exit
If Max does this everyone screams he should get a penalty. Alonso, Max and others have gotten penalty's for this. It's either penalty's for everyone or no one.
I'm a McLaren fan, but it'll take some kind of miracle for Lando to win it in the Sunday race. The car isn't the best this weekend and it's not particularly close and the tire degradation compared to the Ferraris in the sprint doesn't show much promise for a longer race. Piastri also struggling shows that it's not just Lando, so it's a McLaren issue this week. People will jump to dump on Lando, but I genuinely think he outqualified the car here with luck from Russell.
They dont count Lando efforts anymore, the only thing they said about the pole was that it was gifted, and it was a mega first lap, if it was max or lecler doing what Lando did they would be saying “what a driver outperforming the car” but it is Lando and they are afraid of saying anything nice about him because the hate wagon its stronger and they dont want to lose likes and clicks
@@kikostalloneu1213 listen you are correct you can say it was gifted but do you think toto was on he radio saying george bin to help lando and ruin max .What you should know is this real quote : anythig can happen in formula one ,you never know what will happen next.alo its not reall ygiftwed becuse it ws a one hot lap wihou knowing max didn' tin of it that way d ost him pole. anyway i m sure lando wil mes up off tart fr your good
@@NihalKhehra-s1x I think you didnt understand my point, i’m defending Lando it was a mega lap by him, he is in the third fastest car and put it on pole is amazing what i’m saying is that tommy and matt should give more credit to Lando than just saying that it was gifted
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Hamilton qualifying behind Bottas is just simply delicious! There's not gonna be any "Valtteri, it's James" this time... although, to be fair, with the state of the Stake F1 kick sauber rotisserie chicken cheesecake mushroom hat car, he won't need it... but it is still just wonderful to see...
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So Alonso got penalised because het took a different race line and because of that it meant he had to brake earlier. Lando did exactly the same. and the same goes for the moving under breaking. And yes, you love it as it keeps the title fight alive. So Lando got away with it, which is questionable. I already know that Matt will roll his eyes, but again its a British driver that got the benefit of the doubt. I happen to speak multiple languages and outside british media the feeling is very different than the english (how come?). German and Spanish speaking media also see the British bias.
Not sure it is British bias, more it is big team/driver bias and a desire not to "spoil" the championship. I think it is marginal but then I watch Sky F1 which is a basically a Hamilton fan channel. I'm sure if Max did it to Norris, there would be 30 minute interrogation.
The British media along with everyone else was very critical of the Alonso penalty. We should be happy that F1 is listening to feedback and cars can take different lines to defend again rather than indulging in grand anti British conspiracy.
I’m British and can tell you! The British bias is damn frustratingly true!! I can no longer listen to Sky commentary, I watch tv on silent and listen to the F1 commentary on my phone while tuning in to battle channel on my iPad
Alonso didn’t take a different line lmao, that was the bullshit excuse he made only for it to be the exact same line he was using all race long but with significantly different telemetry(braking and then accelerating erratically)
I'm sorry Tommy but that's a ridiculous reading of the Norris/Leclerc situation. Alonso's penalty in Australia was a joke - that was good defending, and he got penalised for George's failure to read his move. Here, Lando went to place his car on the inside pre-emptively to stop a dive-bomb and had to brake early as a result. Charles just misread it, that's it, but was able to recover it. Now, I'm not a fan of the IndyCar rule that you can't make *reactionary* defensive moves, but if we say pre-emptive positioning into a corner is bad too, then we're basically eliminating any form of defending other than down a straight.
I'm actually shocked about Tommys take on the Lando-Charles incident. You expect it on twitter for people to lose their head over hard racing, but not a long time F1/racing fan like Tommy. He braked early? Yeah no shit he's taking a much tighter line with dead tyres, he needs to brake earlier. And the inside line for that braking zone was never once open, Charles just expected it to open up but it didn't. Lando did nothing wrong there and fair play to Matt for seeing it as it is despite being a Charles Leclerc fan
8:25 Max did get a 10 second penalty for the crash but there was no penalty for the other two times when there was no crash 8:43 Lando has braked earlier than normal HOWEVER that is the point you need to brake at in order to make the apex of the next corner based on taking that tighter line because it's a shorter distance to the apex whereas the normal racing line is a longer line but allows you to keep more speed through the corner. It's why divebombing at that corner works so well sometimes as you will never make the apex but you're essentially hoping to compromise the other driver to the point where they can't cut back on the inside
"Based on the rest of the season it should not be a penalty" has everyone forgot the 20s penalty Alonso got for "breaking early" in a situation much less dangerous, just because the idiot behind crashed. Here it was much more erratic and risky but but because Charles is a good driver and somehow was able to keep it clean, not hitting Lando or crashing himself it is ok? It is definitely better for the championship excitement, but just proves how ridiculous and bias the penalty to Alonso was.
It was because johny herbert was a race director that day and they have a big pre existing history so herbert was very keen to punish Alonso there is a video about it
Two completely different situations. Lando took a defensive line to defend against Charles attacking him up the inside of the corner. Charles just didn't expect Lando to defend. Alonso didn't take a different line. He backed off the throttle on what was basically a straight right in to a high speed corner and then went back on throttle again. All Lando did was brake earlier because he was on a tighter defensive line. Alonso lifting off throttle on the racing line in to a high speed corner is way more dangerous than Lando braking early because of taking a defensive position. Alonso did what he did purely to throw George off. Lando HAD to drive differently because he was defending and not taking the normal racing line.
Alonso knew what he was doing nice try 🤣if it was lewis you'd be crying years for a penalty What was the need to go 100kmh slower than other laps. He brake tested end of story. He then pretended to weave to act like something was wrong with the car He couldn't even give a proper answer for his brake test you alonso fangirl Enjoy seeing him get 0 points tomorrow 😆
01:26 Thank you Tommy for adding that as the first question for a bit of banter. Sainz absolutely cooked during the Sprint and showed great race pace throughout the session. 🔥
My mom who has never watched a race watched qualifying with me and when she saw the Russell go off she said, “he didn’t even turn, why didn’t he try to turn there? 😂
Lando covered the inside, not his fault if Charles did not expect him to do so. He wasn't driving like a mad man covering every corner, elbows out driving Charles off the track. That overreaction from the Ferrari driver is mainly due to the fact that he did not expect the Mclaren to defend there. It's a non issue
yep exactly Jesus I love F1 but it sometimes seems like F1 only racing fans don't get how racing works. any other racing series that's not even looked at twice
All that Max needs to do is to finish right after Lando every race including the last two sprintraces to become champion with a 4 points difference. And that is if Lando can get the maximum amount of points including fastest lap for all 6 remaining races and including the last 2 sprintraces. Maximum amount of points left over in the championship is 172 points, and behind that the second maximum amount of points is 122 points. So the difference is 50 points between first and second maximum, and right now Max has a 54 point lead. And if another driver wins a race it is only beneficial for Max as long as he can finish right after or even before Lando.
@@paulvandermeer6461 It's also not similar to those at all. Norris didn't move under braking like Max, he committed to a tight line and broke earlier to follow said line. He also didn't brake on a straight, re-accelerate on the same straight, and then brake again into a corner like Alonso. There is legit nothing similar between any of these three events
Mclaren is obviously struggling at COTA and lando is once again out performing it. But for the championship it seems like redbull have found their issue and given max a car he is more comfortable in so it’s pretty much over, without some miracles. Also all lando did was stay on the inside and turn to the left, Charles was going to dive down the inside if lando followed the normal racing line but he didn’t.
@@Ibukun_1 so true...if lando finishes on the podium it'll probably be his best race of his life as per race craft but since he's getting so much hate from RB and SF fans nobody will acknowledge him sadly:(
Lando has never really out performed that car. He is not capable of that, because he is not that extraordinary driver. He is very good, but not that world champion material. The only way he can compete for a title is when he has the best car, and even then he struggles. Mclaren has had the fastest car since Miami, for the biggest part of this season, and he is still 50 points behind Verstappen. I have to admit that he has also been victim of some terrible team strategies, but Lando didn't out perform that car much this year.
@@janvisser4132 No one "really" out performs their car. But he has a highly rated team mate and, despite what people say, is thrashing him which is the most a driver can do, despite being far from perfect.
Fernando got a penalty for breaking early. If the FIA is really not judging it based on outcome, they should penalize Lando as well. But I do think the outcome should play a role in the penalty
It's the same stuff with Lando/Oscar. Lando has beaten Oscar I'm guessing 75% of the time this season. He beats him one race and Lando's washed. It's every time. People forget so quick.
I was looking forward to that potential pole lap from Max after that godly first sector. Sure he could have cooked his tire and fallen off in the third sector, but it was a shame.
I dont know how you could think that it wasn't fine - Landos move... I'm sorry Tommy usually has good wheel knowledge and opinons, but how could Lando be at fault for defending the inside line and if Charles ran into the back of him, it would've 100% been his fault, as it would if anyother driver ever drove into the back of another driver. Alonso situation is different cause he broke heavily into a fast corner, Lando broke early on a compromised line into a slow corner.
Lando brakes 10m early and goes off the racing line at the apex, if Charles went into the back of him it would have been a racing incident because leclerc was committed to the overtaking line, as both ferraris had been using for the entire sprint
@@elianioriofarrell Lando commited to the defensive line from the outset. It would have been Charles fault because he didn't account for the fact that Lando defended and ran into the back of him
@TheTreemuss yeah and Leclerc committed to the overtaking line "from outset" and he did nothing different to normal in doing that, which is why it would be a racing incident, can you even hear the irony in what you're saying?
@@elianioriofarrell do you know racing? If you commit to an overtake that has been defended, it is your fault? It's Leclercs responsibility to overtake safely, and Lando to cooperate fairly. Leclerc is behind Lando, so he can see Lando defend, so to still try to go down the inside which is closed, will have been his fault.
@@TheTreemuss what tf are you watching? Leclerc commits to the overtake before lando hugs the inside and so has no chance of changing line under braking, get a grip of yourself
Norris is definitely showing that he wants to fight, between almost destroying one of the Ferrari cars at the start and not being given a slam dunk penalty at the end
Damn Tommy your off the mark completely there. Luke they said in commentary: Lando completely stayed on the line he was on, leclerc was about 1.5 car length behind him on that corner, no one knows how he thought we could divebomb that corner. Lando did not even flinch, he just took the smoothest corner ever.
Opening up parc ferme between the sprint and the real qauli make's a huge difference in not getting the same result session after session in a sprint weekend.
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Let's just say that Norris was certainly driving more erratically than Alonso was in Australia. I think Lando did deserve a penalty. It's better for the championship that he didn't get one, but the stewards are sending a clear "gloves are off"-signal once again, which usually ends in crashes at some point.
Defending the inside is not moving erratically, and braking earlier than normal on that line is also not erratic, if you want to make the corner and get a good exit. Charles just drove like Lando was going to leave the door open and take the normal racing line. If this was a straight who doesnt move to the inside to defend. No one. So no different on a multi apex corner, you're ahead so you choose
Really, you think the Ferraris will get the better of Lando? Difficult to say, really… I reckon if Lando can hold onto P1 and go off in free air, he could make it. Having said that, the Ferraris are fast as bullets and seem easy on the tyres as well.
Sorry Tommy, have to disagree with you on the Lando/Leclerc incident. People have failed to mention that twice in that lap Lando had locked up and was probably overheating his tyres trying to stay ahead (he did say his front tyres were dead in post-race interview). Going into the double left hander he needed to brake earlier, partly because of the reduced grip but also to make the corner at that sharp of an angle. I think Leclerc simply got tunnel vision thinking about the divebomb on the last lap and got caught out by the wounded McLaren defending its position.
Tommy is just wrong here. Watch the clip again and Sainz taking the normal line. Lando very clearly doesn't take that line, brakes as he should for the tighter line and as the lead car had every right to do so. Charles also wanted to take that line for the overtake, which is his right, however Lando did it first. That's why this was so close: they both took the alt line. The only "issue" here was Charles being caught out that Lando didn't go wide on the normal line. If either of them had done the normal line, we wouldn't be saying anything (well maybe that Lando go passed if he went wide), but when both go tight, issue. Charles "did nothing wrong" because he was fine to take that inside line if he wanted, but if there was contact, it would have been on Charles/a racing incident. Just because Charles wanted to take that line doesn't mean Lando can't or was somehow at fault. Charles isn't turning differently than Lando, Lando isn't cutting across his nose, they are both just taking that tight line and Charles wasn't expecting it. He was expecting Lando to be wide so Charles would have a few extra meters to brake, but instead Lando went tight and was in Charles's braking point. But again, lead car has that right. And if you still don't believe me, look at what Charles said after the race. He said after looking at it again and not being in the stress of the last lap, it was totally fine and not at all bad driving by Lando.
Whether Max or Alonso are used as an example ... The only reason Lando didn't get a penalty is because they didn't crash. Problem is: we are applying penalties for outcomes as opposed to behaviour. 🙈
Imagine that Charles prefers a car that performs better in qualy but Carlos’ car is better in the race. I would say that’s a good strategy from Charles because people give their verdicts of which driver is better from qualy and no so much on which driver makes the most points.
In all fairness, the first lap was on used tires. Perez is mediocre for sure though but in q2 nobody even had track limits so they were putting their real shot in the 2nd run.
How was Norris yesterday anything like Max at Austria? Norris was always on the inside, his only moving under braking was taking the corner. Maybe he broke early, it’s hard to tell, but he’s on a tight line on old tyres and he just locked up the last time he broke late. What Max did at Austria was nothing like what Norris did
Not quite. Alonso braked on the straight, accelerated, then braked again for the corner. Norris just braked earlier to stay on a tighter line and make the corner.
2:01 no they didnt fire the wrong but i truley belive he shouldnt have been fired hes better than hamilton at the moment, hamilton has had a better career that is totally true but what matter is the present and hamilton ahs fallen off a bit that is the truth. hes constantly getting beaten by russel, if it werent for the unluckiness rusell has gotten this year (australia, Uk, belgium) rusell would easily be 30 or 35 points ahead of hamilton
That's an insane take from Tommy He defended the corner in the only way possible Is Tommy advocating for drivers not being able to defend certain corners?
As a Mclaren man it pains me to say this.. But the way this weekend has looked so far.. Max is most likely gonna close out the championship tomorrow. Even if Lando gets p2 behind him, he would still have lost 10 points this weekend.. and, barring a DNF from Max, he will be too far away imo.
If it were Max or Alonso, it would be a 20 penalty, because it's Lando and he's a Brit nothing happens. Fernando got a penalty for taking a different racing line and having to brake early in an "unusual way" exactly what Lando did here. the only difference is Charles had better reactions than George.
Exactly this! One single moment of good performance in a single qualifying session should be enough justification for Red Bull drive. And anyone who agrees with us isn't also brain broken.
Norris just anticipates Leclerc there on the final lap. Leclerc needs more sensible and not just assume Norris will take the racing line. Tommy is just being being a biased Verstappen fan here
Yep I definitely picked up on Tommy's bias here. He just wanted Lando to get the penalty as it would help Max in the championship. Literally every pundit and the FIA themselves said what Lando didn't warrant a penalty - he just got his elbows out defended the inside line.
@@David_Polak I get what you’re saying but he kept saying the potential crash would’ve been more on Norris when Leclerc literally was going to dive into his diffuser out of pure complacency and being used to overtaking cars on track here.
I feel like sainz is a more consistent driver. He might not be as flashy, but both him and George are almost always right there to snatch an unexpected result
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Of all the sessions I wish we got a twitch stream of, today was one of them. Watching Matt squirm as Charles went foe to toe with people for 19 laps would have been hilarious
Sauber might need to consider a papaya livery after seeing how its helped Alpine.
Alpine are the most random team on the grid
Lawson's Q1 time was fast enough to be P8 in Q3. Some promise of his ability to send it in that Formula B car.
Oh yeah that lap was RAPID I will have to go back and watch the on board... What a statement.
and wasn't even mentioned in the official highlights...
You can't compare q1 and times in q2 my guy.
Different track conditions
@@sadikurrahman4833 you can when everyone is running faster times
That time (like everyone else's) would be faster as well, after burning a few kilos of fuel in q2 & q3, so that time in q1 was exceptional, especially from a rookie in a mid car after a 1 year break.
Their head sizes could not be more different, matts head is MASSIVE
How do people even notice these useless things
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@@8tonystark8 The nerve.
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Carlos has been doing that overtake in that same corner since the Toro Roso days
It’s the only real overtaking spot on the track
I enjoyed this Sprint thoroughly. The format clearly delivers and I enjoyed Max's response to the question afterwards about why he performs so well in the Sprints.
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The Norris Leclerc incident was, in my opinion, far from a penalty. Norris placed his car on the inside way before the turn, anticipating and preventing a divebomb, not reacting to it. Leclerc was going for a future gap that didnt open and had to react to norris breaking earlier due to the tighter line. If they crash it's propably a racing incident, if not causing a collision by Leclerc.
I think Max was saving his absolute fastest lap until the very last lap, both in sprint qualifying as in normal qualifying. In all the earlier laps he didn't come close to track limits. In his last lap in both sessions he was way more on the edge.
That's not really how qualifying works
Max was up on lando after sector 1, but down on Lando after Sector 2 in his final run.
Lando's defence last lap was fine - there was never a gap for Charles on the left. If there was a gap and he reactively closed it then fine, but there was never a gap and he didn't react to charles, he was always covering left.
This completely
Lando made it bleedingly obviously which line he was taking, but leclerc already decided to overtake on the inside and was caught napping
In reality, he probably could have swung around the outside with how compromised Lando was taking that line
yeah i think so too, thx
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@@DeadlysparkProbably a few corners before that one I knew Lando was going to defend the inside. All throughout the race that inside dive bomb was nearly impossible to defend once you've committed to the outside sweep. It was painfully obvious what was going to happen, Lando still fighting for the championship and it being the last lap, and Charles really should have expected it. I think someone like Alonso or Lewis would expect it more and be able to go around the outside and cut back to overtake on exit
If Max does this everyone screams he should get a penalty. Alonso, Max and others have gotten penalty's for this.
It's either penalty's for everyone or no one.
I'm a McLaren fan, but it'll take some kind of miracle for Lando to win it in the Sunday race. The car isn't the best this weekend and it's not particularly close and the tire degradation compared to the Ferraris in the sprint doesn't show much promise for a longer race. Piastri also struggling shows that it's not just Lando, so it's a McLaren issue this week. People will jump to dump on Lando, but I genuinely think he outqualified the car here with luck from Russell.
They dont count Lando efforts anymore, the only thing they said about the pole was that it was gifted, and it was a mega first lap, if it was max or lecler doing what Lando did they would be saying “what a driver outperforming the car” but it is Lando and they are afraid of saying anything nice about him because the hate wagon its stronger and they dont want to lose likes and clicks
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@@kikostalloneu1213 listen you are correct you can say it was gifted but do you think toto was on he radio saying george bin to help lando and ruin max .What you should know is this real quote : anythig can happen in formula one ,you never know what will happen next.alo its not reall ygiftwed becuse it ws a one hot lap wihou knowing max didn' tin of it that way d ost him pole. anyway i m sure lando wil mes up off tart fr your good
@@NihalKhehra-s1x I think you didnt understand my point, i’m defending Lando it was a mega lap by him, he is in the third fastest car and put it on pole is amazing what i’m saying is that tommy and matt should give more credit to Lando than just saying that it was gifted
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I am slightly toasted and I left so hard when Tommy just floated through the background when Matt was doing the introduction
Hamilton qualifying behind Bottas is just simply delicious! There's not gonna be any "Valtteri, it's James" this time... although, to be fair, with the state of the Stake F1 kick sauber rotisserie chicken cheesecake mushroom hat car, he won't need it... but it is still just wonderful to see...
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So Alonso got penalised because het took a different race line and because of that it meant he had to brake earlier.
Lando did exactly the same. and the same goes for the moving under breaking.
And yes, you love it as it keeps the title fight alive.
So Lando got away with it, which is questionable.
I already know that Matt will roll his eyes, but again its a British driver that got the benefit of the doubt.
I happen to speak multiple languages and outside british media the feeling is very different than the english (how come?).
German and Spanish speaking media also see the British bias.
Not sure it is British bias, more it is big team/driver bias and a desire not to "spoil" the championship. I think it is marginal but then I watch Sky F1 which is a basically a Hamilton fan channel. I'm sure if Max did it to Norris, there would be 30 minute interrogation.
The British media along with everyone else was very critical of the Alonso penalty. We should be happy that F1 is listening to feedback and cars can take different lines to defend again rather than indulging in grand anti British conspiracy.
I’m British and can tell you! The British bias is damn frustratingly true!! I can no longer listen to Sky commentary, I watch tv on silent and listen to the F1 commentary on my phone while tuning in to battle channel on my iPad
Alonso didn’t take a different line lmao, that was the bullshit excuse he made only for it to be the exact same line he was using all race long but with significantly different telemetry(braking and then accelerating erratically)
I'm sorry Tommy but that's a ridiculous reading of the Norris/Leclerc situation.
Alonso's penalty in Australia was a joke - that was good defending, and he got penalised for George's failure to read his move.
Here, Lando went to place his car on the inside pre-emptively to stop a dive-bomb and had to brake early as a result. Charles just misread it, that's it, but was able to recover it.
Now, I'm not a fan of the IndyCar rule that you can't make *reactionary* defensive moves, but if we say pre-emptive positioning into a corner is bad too, then we're basically eliminating any form of defending other than down a straight.
Thanks for still making these so close to them happening, whilst you're on tour.
I'm actually shocked about Tommys take on the Lando-Charles incident. You expect it on twitter for people to lose their head over hard racing, but not a long time F1/racing fan like Tommy. He braked early? Yeah no shit he's taking a much tighter line with dead tyres, he needs to brake earlier. And the inside line for that braking zone was never once open, Charles just expected it to open up but it didn't. Lando did nothing wrong there and fair play to Matt for seeing it as it is despite being a Charles Leclerc fan
that intro was fire!
8:25 Max did get a 10 second penalty for the crash but there was no penalty for the other two times when there was no crash
8:43 Lando has braked earlier than normal HOWEVER that is the point you need to brake at in order to make the apex of the next corner based on taking that tighter line because it's a shorter distance to the apex whereas the normal racing line is a longer line but allows you to keep more speed through the corner. It's why divebombing at that corner works so well sometimes as you will never make the apex but you're essentially hoping to compromise the other driver to the point where they can't cut back on the inside
Exactly max caused an incident and it was clearly max’s fault and he moved under braking multiple times landos move was only once and wasnt as bad
“it was just an inchident”
@@Umar-gw6fySo did Norris. He was lucky Leclerc did not crash in to him. Lucky.
Alonso got a 20s penalty in Australia for erratic driving, it wasn't much different to how Lando braked early.
@@LFC1PGhe backed off on a straight going into a high speed corner Lando made a defensive decision Leclerc wasn’t expecting they’re not similar
Lawson’s Q1 lap was rapid
COTA is clearly the only USA track that should be on this calendar.
Lando's tyres were going. I think the brake point was being driven by that factor more than blocking Charles
"Based on the rest of the season it should not be a penalty" has everyone forgot the 20s penalty Alonso got for "breaking early" in a situation much less dangerous, just because the idiot behind crashed. Here it was much more erratic and risky but but because Charles is a good driver and somehow was able to keep it clean, not hitting Lando or crashing himself it is ok? It is definitely better for the championship excitement, but just proves how ridiculous and bias the penalty to Alonso was.
It was because johny herbert was a race director that day and they have a big pre existing history so herbert was very keen to punish Alonso there is a video about it
RPM ❤@@tabization4938
Two completely different situations. Lando took a defensive line to defend against Charles attacking him up the inside of the corner. Charles just didn't expect Lando to defend. Alonso didn't take a different line. He backed off the throttle on what was basically a straight right in to a high speed corner and then went back on throttle again. All Lando did was brake earlier because he was on a tighter defensive line. Alonso lifting off throttle on the racing line in to a high speed corner is way more dangerous than Lando braking early because of taking a defensive position. Alonso did what he did purely to throw George off. Lando HAD to drive differently because he was defending and not taking the normal racing line.
Alonso knew what he was doing nice try 🤣if it was lewis you'd be crying years for a penalty
What was the need to go 100kmh slower than other laps. He brake tested end of story. He then pretended to weave to act like something was wrong with the car
He couldn't even give a proper answer for his brake test you alonso fangirl
Enjoy seeing him get 0 points tomorrow 😆
@@tabization4938alonso is a finished has been. He's won nothing anyways
01:26 Thank you Tommy for adding that as the first question for a bit of banter. Sainz absolutely cooked during the Sprint and showed great race pace throughout the session. 🔥
1603 I think Max was thinking of the Drivers Championship when he made sure of that corner on that lap
My mom who has never watched a race watched qualifying with me and when she saw the Russell go off she said, “he didn’t even turn, why didn’t he try to turn there? 😂
😂😂😂🤓🤡🤓🤡
Well done MOM 👌🏻😜
From SA
Lawson's Q1 3d position was a mild shocker tho!!
Plenty more to come
Bloody 10 past 4 breh!! Im all here for it though!
Lando covered the inside, not his fault if Charles did not expect him to do so. He wasn't driving like a mad man covering every corner, elbows out driving Charles off the track. That overreaction from the Ferrari driver is mainly due to the fact that he did not expect the Mclaren to defend there. It's a non issue
yep exactly Jesus I love F1 but it sometimes seems like F1 only racing fans don't get how racing works. any other racing series that's not even looked at twice
All that Max needs to do is to finish right after Lando every race including the last two sprintraces to become champion with a 4 points difference. And that is if Lando can get the maximum amount of points including fastest lap for all 6 remaining races and including the last 2 sprintraces. Maximum amount of points left over in the championship is 172 points, and behind that the second maximum amount of points is 122 points. So the difference is 50 points between first and second maximum, and right now Max has a 54 point lead.
And if another driver wins a race it is only beneficial for Max as long as he can finish right after or even before Lando.
I think that Lando's move on Charles is more similar to Alonso's move on Russell in Australia rather than Max's move on Lando in Austria.
But in both those cases the non brit got a penalty.
@@paulvandermeer6461cry more
@@paulvandermeer6461 It's also not similar to those at all. Norris didn't move under braking like Max, he committed to a tight line and broke earlier to follow said line. He also didn't brake on a straight, re-accelerate on the same straight, and then brake again into a corner like Alonso. There is legit nothing similar between any of these three events
Welcome to the U.S. I hope the two of you find our Country welcoming and enjoy your stay.
Don't forget to vote Kamala. As the wonderful Lizzo said "If Kamala wins the entire country will be like Detroit" which I really do hope to see.
@@As-qz5lryou doing okay little buddy?
@@lukeparsons583 I just so inspired by Kamala
5:36 erratic driving? Two points for Alonso.
Exactly, Alonso would've gotten a penalty here, too bad he isn't British
Happy to see K-Mag doing well, this weekend :) (so far, at least.. )
Mclaren is obviously struggling at COTA and lando is once again out performing it. But for the championship it seems like redbull have found their issue and given max a car he is more comfortable in so it’s pretty much over, without some miracles. Also all lando did was stay on the inside and turn to the left, Charles was going to dive down the inside if lando followed the normal racing line but he didn’t.
Exactly its not mentioned enough that lando has maximised the package this weekend
It's been over since bahrain it was never a championship on at all
@@Ibukun_1 so true...if lando finishes on the podium it'll probably be his best race of his life as per race craft but since he's getting so much hate from RB and SF fans nobody will acknowledge him sadly:(
Lando has never really out performed that car. He is not capable of that, because he is not that extraordinary driver. He is very good, but not that world champion material. The only way he can compete for a title is when he has the best car, and even then he struggles. Mclaren has had the fastest car since Miami, for the biggest part of this season, and he is still 50 points behind Verstappen. I have to admit that he has also been victim of some terrible team strategies, but Lando didn't out perform that car much this year.
@@janvisser4132 No one "really" out performs their car. But he has a highly rated team mate and, despite what people say, is thrashing him which is the most a driver can do, despite being far from perfect.
Fernando got a penalty for breaking early. If the FIA is really not judging it based on outcome, they should penalize Lando as well. But I do think the outcome should play a role in the penalty
Cowboy Tommy isn't real, he can't hurt you. 0:02 Cowboy Tommy:
19:00, it was forever ago that I could barely remember Alpine being top of Formula A
I wish they showed more of Yuki fighting with Haas
Yuki was battling everyone! He must have loved that session if it wasn't for he had to give up most positions in the end
Leclerc has ended above Sainz for the last 6 races in a row, F1 fans have the same memory as a goldfish.
Unless you're the WC, you're only as good as your last race... Also: humour.
Oh my gawsh, fans are silly!
Both are such WDC materiał, ofc, memory of a goldfish... 🙄
They are just pulling Matt's leg :)
It's the same stuff with Lando/Oscar. Lando has beaten Oscar I'm guessing 75% of the time this season. He beats him one race and Lando's washed. It's every time. People forget so quick.
@@jordanharris5013well oscar fans are inside their caves throughout this weekend
My opinion is the stewards are inconsistent remember Alonso got a penalty for slightly braking early in Australia when he was defending Russel?
I was looking forward to that potential pole lap from Max after that godly first sector. Sure he could have cooked his tire and fallen off in the third sector, but it was a shame.
Congrats on the 500K subs
18:34 don't worry Matt even Crofty was confused by that alpine
Max ominously getting fastest lap on lap 19...😁
First time at an F1 race this weekend, looked for you two everywhere! Better luck tomorrow at the Gran Prix… 😂
I dont know how you could think that it wasn't fine - Landos move... I'm sorry Tommy usually has good wheel knowledge and opinons, but how could Lando be at fault for defending the inside line and if Charles ran into the back of him, it would've 100% been his fault, as it would if anyother driver ever drove into the back of another driver.
Alonso situation is different cause he broke heavily into a fast corner, Lando broke early on a compromised line into a slow corner.
Lando brakes 10m early and goes off the racing line at the apex, if Charles went into the back of him it would have been a racing incident because leclerc was committed to the overtaking line, as both ferraris had been using for the entire sprint
@@elianioriofarrell Lando commited to the defensive line from the outset. It would have been Charles fault because he didn't account for the fact that Lando defended and ran into the back of him
@TheTreemuss yeah and Leclerc committed to the overtaking line "from outset" and he did nothing different to normal in doing that, which is why it would be a racing incident, can you even hear the irony in what you're saying?
@@elianioriofarrell do you know racing? If you commit to an overtake that has been defended, it is your fault? It's Leclercs responsibility to overtake safely, and Lando to cooperate fairly. Leclerc is behind Lando, so he can see Lando defend, so to still try to go down the inside which is closed, will have been his fault.
@@TheTreemuss what tf are you watching? Leclerc commits to the overtake before lando hugs the inside and so has no chance of changing line under braking, get a grip of yourself
Norris is definitely showing that he wants to fight, between almost destroying one of the Ferrari cars at the start and not being given a slam dunk penalty at the end
The first four teams are very close. The only thing that separate them is the tyre were which is crucial on a long stints.
Rare AWS W with the new "time lost" stat.
They screwed when showing Lando would catch Max in 3 laps though
Damn Tommy your off the mark completely there. Luke they said in commentary: Lando completely stayed on the line he was on, leclerc was about 1.5 car length behind him on that corner, no one knows how he thought we could divebomb that corner. Lando did not even flinch, he just took the smoothest corner ever.
Opening up parc ferme between the sprint and the real qauli make's a huge difference in not getting the same result session after session in a sprint weekend.
"Lando being overtaken into turn 1"
Lando: Overtakes 2 cars into turn 1
He probably meant at the end when Sainz overtook Lando
@@davidadam316 ahhh yeah ok I see that makes sense, was also just saying this as a joke tbh but yeah
really wish you’d include your unhinged intros for the spotify version of the podcast! even though we can’t see it, just hearing the switch between the voices is funny
Great job boys
I am literally black out drunk and I love you guys so much. Much love 🖤
Learn moderation. You're not cool
Lmao that is goals, stay safe out there brother
Don’t be brother
"Literally" black out drunk. Absolute pillock.
@@channelKJM Zoomer having his first beer.
Let's just say that Norris was certainly driving more erratically than Alonso was in Australia. I think Lando did deserve a penalty. It's better for the championship that he didn't get one, but the stewards are sending a clear "gloves are off"-signal once again, which usually ends in crashes at some point.
Landos had two great starts in a row you can say his race start issues are over or have been somewhat resolved for now
His start problem is improving; not over or resolved.
Nope McLaren is piss poor this weekend i wonder whether he'll end up on podium or not... but if he does them it'll be his best race of his life
Wat 🤔🧐
Neeeeeee sir uh uh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
3:55 that is what they do Matt. They give you hope and then take it away 😂
& happy toyota back in f1 with Haas
Alonso got penalty, when Russell wasnt even close to him, for breaking early, Lando should have gotten one too
Alonso break checked
I agree that is is not a penalty but if Fernando gets a penalty for Australia then Lando should too... I hate the inconsistency of the stewards
Defending the inside is not moving erratically, and braking earlier than normal on that line is also not erratic, if you want to make the corner and get a good exit.
Charles just drove like Lando was going to leave the door open and take the normal racing line.
If this was a straight who doesnt move to the inside to defend. No one. So no different on a multi apex corner, you're ahead so you choose
Tell that to Alonso as he got penalized for far less.
It’s so nice to hear you talk about Carlos 😍
Prediction from Lando fan:
1.Max
2.Carlos
3.Charles
4.Lando
5.Oscar
Really, you think the Ferraris will get the better of Lando? Difficult to say, really… I reckon if Lando can hold onto P1 and go off in free air, he could make it. Having said that, the Ferraris are fast as bullets and seem easy on the tyres as well.
@@remconoordermeer7015 I mean I hope Lando wins but just based on the sprint race, max and Ferrari are faster.
8:46 Fernando got a penalty and 3 penalty points to his superlicense for essentially the same thing in Australia.
Only Alonso gets penalties for people behind almost crashing.
It was a break check
Was busy all day just finished watching the sprint and quali. Thank you for the timing 😂
13:41 Great new feature indeed!
Sorry Tommy, have to disagree with you on the Lando/Leclerc incident. People have failed to mention that twice in that lap Lando had locked up and was probably overheating his tyres trying to stay ahead (he did say his front tyres were dead in post-race interview). Going into the double left hander he needed to brake earlier, partly because of the reduced grip but also to make the corner at that sharp of an angle.
I think Leclerc simply got tunnel vision thinking about the divebomb on the last lap and got caught out by the wounded McLaren defending its position.
Tommy is just wrong here. Watch the clip again and Sainz taking the normal line. Lando very clearly doesn't take that line, brakes as he should for the tighter line and as the lead car had every right to do so. Charles also wanted to take that line for the overtake, which is his right, however Lando did it first. That's why this was so close: they both took the alt line. The only "issue" here was Charles being caught out that Lando didn't go wide on the normal line. If either of them had done the normal line, we wouldn't be saying anything (well maybe that Lando go passed if he went wide), but when both go tight, issue. Charles "did nothing wrong" because he was fine to take that inside line if he wanted, but if there was contact, it would have been on Charles/a racing incident. Just because Charles wanted to take that line doesn't mean Lando can't or was somehow at fault. Charles isn't turning differently than Lando, Lando isn't cutting across his nose, they are both just taking that tight line and Charles wasn't expecting it. He was expecting Lando to be wide so Charles would have a few extra meters to brake, but instead Lando went tight and was in Charles's braking point. But again, lead car has that right.
And if you still don't believe me, look at what Charles said after the race. He said after looking at it again and not being in the stress of the last lap, it was totally fine and not at all bad driving by Lando.
Great job by Sainz honestly..
Whether Max or Alonso are used as an example ... The only reason Lando didn't get a penalty is because they didn't crash. Problem is: we are applying penalties for outcomes as opposed to behaviour. 🙈
Lol Tommy doesn't like it Lando does it but max is chill when he does it
Yeah his max superfan side is showing everyone but max fans think that move was fine
i been waiting for this one
Vamos Carlos!!!
Intros are so goofy and I love it
Imagine that Charles prefers a car that performs better in qualy but Carlos’ car is better in the race. I would say that’s a good strategy from Charles because people give their verdicts of which driver is better from qualy and no so much on which driver makes the most points.
Charles car is now race orientated. More dwf compared to Sainz hence why he was quicker on the straight
Lando starting P 1
Max starting P 2
Sergio starting his usual P erez
He didn't really set a full time, his first lap was deleted, and he was on for a good lap before Russell crashed!
@@gauravsashikumar692 Just how many races can one make up excuses? At some point it’s enough.
In all fairness, the first lap was on used tires. Perez is mediocre for sure though but in q2 nobody even had track limits so they were putting their real shot in the 2nd run.
How was Norris yesterday anything like Max at Austria? Norris was always on the inside, his only moving under braking was taking the corner. Maybe he broke early, it’s hard to tell, but he’s on a tight line on old tyres and he just locked up the last time he broke late. What Max did at Austria was nothing like what Norris did
F1 script writers know sainz and leclerc are the only ones capable of a proper side by side battle
Lando did the same as Alonso did to Russell when Alonso got a penalty… he early braked and changed his line…
Not quite. Alonso braked on the straight, accelerated, then braked again for the corner. Norris just braked earlier to stay on a tighter line and make the corner.
@@ogTryhard21but don’t forget that George was way back of Alonso, and Charles was right behind Lando.
Loving the 480p quality video lol I feel like a kid in high school again xD
Sainz being more aggressive with Leclerc shock. Cost Ferrari a potential 1/2 imo
2:01 no they didnt fire the wrong but i truley belive he shouldnt have been fired hes better than hamilton at the moment, hamilton has had a better career that is totally true but what matter is the present and hamilton ahs fallen off a bit that is the truth. hes constantly getting beaten by russel, if it werent for the unluckiness rusell has gotten this year (australia, Uk, belgium) rusell would easily be 30 or 35 points ahead of hamilton
Let's go ! Lap 1 Lando !
That's an insane take from Tommy
He defended the corner in the only way possible
Is Tommy advocating for drivers not being able to defend certain corners?
As a Mclaren man it pains me to say this.. But the way this weekend has looked so far.. Max is most likely gonna close out the championship tomorrow. Even if Lando gets p2 behind him, he would still have lost 10 points this weekend.. and, barring a DNF from Max, he will be too far away imo.
If it were Max or Alonso, it would be a 20 penalty, because it's Lando and he's a Brit nothing happens. Fernando got a penalty for taking a different racing line and having to brake early in an "unusual way" exactly what Lando did here. the only difference is Charles had better reactions than George.
Anyone here notice RBR rear wings has slight flex on the straights?
You missed the greatest performance of qualifying, Lawson top 3 in Q1 in a Vcarb!! Just give him the RedBull drive and he will be doing even better.
^ This, that was good enough for P9 in Q3 without track evolution.
Exactly this! One single moment of good performance in a single qualifying session should be enough justification for Red Bull drive. And anyone who agrees with us isn't also brain broken.
The colapinto ‘Oh’ face
Norris just anticipates Leclerc there on the final lap. Leclerc needs more sensible and not just assume Norris will take the racing line. Tommy is just being being a biased Verstappen fan here
Yep I definitely picked up on Tommy's bias here. He just wanted Lando to get the penalty as it would help Max in the championship. Literally every pundit and the FIA themselves said what Lando didn't warrant a penalty - he just got his elbows out defended the inside line.
Listen again what Tom said. 7:20 What he said at 8.25 was just a jokingly reaction.
@@David_Polak I get what you’re saying but he kept saying the potential crash would’ve been more on Norris when Leclerc literally was going to dive into his diffuser out of pure complacency and being used to overtaking cars on track here.
was waiting for this
that's one bad hat, Tommy. that's two bad hats, Tommy
Lando’s turn 1 was suspect, his block on Charles was early enough, Charles just committed to the inside and to his surprise lando took that line.
I feel like sainz is a more consistent driver. He might not be as flashy, but both him and George are almost always right there to snatch an unexpected result