America's Right-Wing Citadels Of Hate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 เม.ย. 2024
- Live-streamed on April 8, 2024
David Masciotra, author, lecturer and journalist based in Indiana, discusses his recent book Exurbia Now: The Battleground of American Democracy.
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After contextualizing the rise of exurbs as a late-stage development of white flight beginning in the mid-‘90s, with real estate firms building up isolated communities in previously rural towns and using exclusionary politics and property tax gimmicks to recruit those still escaping the growing diversity of urban centers and even some suburban areas, Masciotra walks Sam and Emma through the infrastructure of exurbia’s isolation, with residents largely working outside of their towns while all civic, media, and commercial roles are taken over by mega-churches, casinos, and massive corporations, resulting in little-to-no connection with their community, much less the outside world.
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Take the tax breaks away and the mega churches go away. Money is the priority for these scammers.
Money is part of this world AND mentioned and USED not only by people in the Bible, but EVERY RELIGION. You don’t know what your talking about.
@@SpiritDetective-jd7wxWhom did Jesus literally whip? Money changers in the temple. Your god is Mammon, not "Jesus".
@@vipermad358 you don’t understand what you are talking about. The reason Jesus did that wasn’t because of the money itself, but because what they were doing in the temple. Money is not evil, the LOVE of money is evil. I can easily disprove you but I’m not gonna waste my time. By the way YOUR god is Mammon not mine chief.
@@SpiritDetective-jd7wx derpy derp derp. Wake up child, your brains have spilled all over the street.
@@SpiritDetective-jd7wxnah, they're right, you worship Mammon.
To quote Mark Twain... "Church is where you go on Sunday, to beg forgiveness for what you did on Saturday, only to repeat on Monday".
You reminded me of seeing churchgoers in suits at 8am as we were headed from the rave to the afterparty. Wow did we feel like derelicts! Funny memory thank you.
@@stoneneils If a rave is followed by an afterparty, what is the afterparty like?
@@dominicfucinari1942 They were basically the most drug-addled 15-20% of the ravers who didn't have loving home to return to. They were pitch black all day playing ambient techno, everybody was lying down on the floors chatting for hours without any real idea who they were talking to cuz we were too stoned to even look, smoking TONS of cannabis in an attempt to finally get what is known as 'tired'..which is not easy after mdma/speed. They were both loving and depressing at the same time as the weekend was over. :(
Anton LaVey, who founded the Church of Satan, did so because he used to be an organ player.
He'd play the organ at a carnival on the weekends and play it at a church on Sundays. Watching the same people sin it up on the weekend, only to repent on Sunday, and then rinse and repeat.
“The best Cure for Christianity is reading the bible.”
- Mark Twain
"It ain’t supposed to make sense; it’s faith. Faith is something that you believe that nobody in his right mind would believe.”
- Archie Bunker
I moved to a rural community in Southern Oregon in 1989. At that time their biggest church held around 5,000 worshipers. It would later swell into the tens of thousands by the end of the millennium. I lived in a valley that was populated by only 150,000 people. Something like 75% of them were either going to the big church or one of the hundreds of smaller churches springing up in strip malls and at private homes all over the place. The Evangelicals were in a heavy recruitment mode and would follow me around like a flock of seagulls trying to save my soul before Y2K brought the second coming of Jesus. They had so much money that about once a week I'd come home to find elaborate 4-color processed door hangers depicting the four horsemen, demonic figures, flames, Jesus, and other scenes of the Apocolypse. It was creepy as F and it was insane.
I love when they have to explain that the date they predicted was a bit off but hey - THE END IS STILL COMING REAL SOON !
@@jameskennedy721I mean societal collapse and mass extinctions are coming soon but it’s mostly their fault or at least the fault of the policies they e supported for forty years
@@jameskennedy721 As it later turned out, most people building careers out of making doomsday predictions are just running ploys to boost book sales.
I’m British, this is truly frightening, explains a lot though. Parts of America appear like the old Wild West, it’s like society hasn’t evolved.
this is the core issue. Drumpf is just their attempt to destroy democracy.
Had a friend that worked at a dinner down the street from a church. They hated working Sundays as the church crowd was some of the most rudest, entitled, hate filled bunch of people.
Been there, done that. I demanded Sunday off. I never mixed well with those nut jobs.
Yet look at all the comments and remarks left by bigoted anti-Christs, make it make sense!
Yup. The churchy people are literally the worst people, but they are "forgiven", which means they don't have to do fuck all.
@@SpiritDetective-jd7wxoh no, do we not like the religion that you specifically choose? Too bad fascist.
@@Nick-o-time fascist? You seem ignorant or uneducated. Why are you calling me a form of government? How does that make any sense.
The common thread between evangelical megachurches and corporate chains is multi-level marketing of a product.
Dude, you really don't know anything about this,
Christians help everyone, including Jews and Muslims,
Jews and Muslims only help themselves,
Christians are supposed to get the word of God out, it's in the name evangelical
Mormons are also big in the mlms.
True. Just look at Hillsong.
Great observation. Social conservatives like any system that sorts people out into winners and losers, preferably with few winners. If they had grown up in the USSR, they would have been the Party hardliners denouncing others to get ahead.
Exactly
Megachurches are the ugliest buildings to ever be built. Even malls are less offensive.
At least a mall (proper one, NOT a strip mall) is a place where everyone enjoys going.
There have been a handful that weren’t architectural atrocities, but most are just cheap warehouses with pretentions.
Remove the Tax Exempt Status of American Churches and fund public education!
It’s time for the Evangelical Mega Churches and the National Apostolic Reformation Church (aka The Church of Seven mountains, better known as The Domionists) to “Render unto Caesar”
@@sawtooth808 think we're past that point
it should be the reclamation BY caesar, given how much they hide
Home school maybe, public funding no thank you.
@@kare7840you would sorely regret losing public infrastructure.
"fund public education!": You need to be more exact: Fund *secular* education! Funding public education ill only lead to creationism and similar (factual )wrongs and lies being taught in school.
Speaking of the christo crazies, a baptist school near me recently was forced to cancel autism awareness week because some church official said it was demonic. Like at that point its not even a political thing, just vile for the sake of it. (Kudos to the people who actually run that school though, they were legitimately going above and beyond)
I heard about this. It's embarrassing the folks running this state see early 1990s Somalia as an inspiration in how to run a state government. Even more embarrassed for the folks who vote for them.
"By their fruits will ye know them." - some woke socialist
Yeap, just what Jesus would do. I remember when Jesus had the power to cure the sick and he said, "f' them. Damn demons".
He mentions that, in the past, local media would have given suburbanites/exurbanites humanizing profiles of people like progressive activists and gays but that they're not getting that now. That is so true. In some ways, people were better informed in the days when every town had its own newspaper and every major city had independent local news as part of its programming.
For profit mass media is not trying to inform voters just divide us.
No hate like religious love
“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”
- Anne Lamott
"Where isolation lives the politics of extremism thrives." So true. And that is why folks from the American outback worship right wing populists like Victor Hanson Davis. He says everything they are thinking but in an articulate semi-intellectual manor.
That's why public schools are so important. With public schools what the students learn there is actually not that important. What is far more important is that they mix people from as many social classes and backgrounds as possible.
@PaulBallantyne250
I absolutely hate Victor Hanson Davis and the dumb ads which feature him that pop up on TH-cam all the time.
Can't click "skip" fast enough
@@MrMarinus18 our public school system is useless against these people. It's so localized that public schools in religious, conservative areas end up reinforcing religion and conservatism. We need a centralized education system like a civilized country.
@@jeffersonclippership2588 I disagree with this notion, sure it's far from perfect but for many children school is still the one place they do meet different people. Even if "different" is a relative statement here but they can not be micromanaged by their parents.
Schools disrupt parental authority by forcing parents to share it. This is why so many conservatives hate it as they like the idea of a strict and divine hierarchy.
This is actually what public schools were originally invented to do. To disrupt parental control and help build a nation via standardized education.
@@MrMarinus18 you misunderstood, I support public schools, I just think they should be run by a central authority and not a bunch of religious weirdos
Christ psychosis is the number one national security threat..
Please don't denigrate Zombie Jesus.
@@houdinididiit He hassss riseeennnnn muahahaha
@@hizzlemobizzle werent there like.. 4 or 5 completely different and inconsistent stories about that? XD its almost.... unbelievable XD
And ‘Jerusalem Syndrome’ in Israel.
Tell me about it.. this morning as I was scrolling you tube, looking for Gaza related info, just having a coffee, I said causally, to an elderly lady sitting alone, what do you think about Israel? Well, she said, its going to come here soon... 😮..., its the end times, what genocide? ..., revelation, she was utterly righteously ignoring the horror.. the Bible says, etc etc. Damn! .., my great grandfather's Bible has a sermon he wrote... that tithing to the church to help the poor, was less than the good government can do with taxes, and socialism, to help the poor! That taxes were simply like tithing to the church., 😮 amen grand daddy. .
The downslide in rural communities is also linked to the disappearance of family run farms too. Big commercial farms are just another version of big business.
Yep!
Untethered Capitalism leads to Feudalism.
@@GordonPavilion and lookie here, conservatives historically call for the elimination and restrction of rules and regulations that protect the people from exploitaiton by money hungry nerf-herders!
well, they sold their land or they ruined the soil
@@waitz001 most didn’t have a choice but to sell… they were forced into bankruptcy
@@michellerenner6880 forced to sell HOW MUCH LAND?
Community rather than ideology is the key. These churches do provide lots of services. Unfortunately the congregants are then hostages to the ambitions (if not corruption) of the preacher-men.
So waaaaaay different than other churches?
@@hughjorgen3164Yes, in some ways… because of the basis of the teachings and that they are going after a key demographic. Unlike say, the Catholic Church that might have been more cult like generations ago, but isn’t anymore.
@@michellerenner6880they’re definitely still a cult. Get together to feast on the flesh of Christ and drink his blood each weekend 😂Lol 😂
A typical suburb is a ocean of single-family houses with nothing else providing community services other than a school and a church. Urban planning is such that nothing else is allowed to be built within the neighborhood, often spreading out for miles.
@@michellerenner6880a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure. Its still a cult.
Spencer Gift, oh my gawd, I forgot about that store that I LOVED when I was ten years old. Ha, ha! Thanks, Sam! ❤ Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Boomers told their kids video games would rot their brains, but social media wound up rotting theirs!
Throw in a few monster trucks and some pyrotechnics and you’ve arrived at Idiocracy, the movie, the show, the reality.
Add lots of American flags too!
Who edited this video? Why did you end this video by cutting the guest off mid-sentence?
Citadels of hate made me picture some type of arena where boss music plays when you enter and you get to fight one of the champions of conservatism like Ben Shapiro...
Shapiro, Pope of Jews
Walsh the Questioner
The Firebrand Fuentes
Klandice the Traitor
The Forgotten God, Carlson
Alex, Psychic Prodigy
Reuben the Rejected
Knazi Knowles
Crowder the Cowardly
Phalse Prophet Prager
The Last Koch
The Legion, Heritage
I'd buy that for a dollar.
If made into a game I'd like to play that game as Sam Seder. "Oh no! Sam Seder! What a nightmare!" as he delivers a ko uppercut to Shapiro's chin...
@@SuperStrik9 kar en tuk?
(this is a doom reference)
Needs to have rules like Thunderdome, Two enter, one leaves.
great conversation, i live in a florida city, one of the few blue counties (barely) in florida, but i've noticed (for a few years) the only development going on is corporate chains or huge development companies, condos and wawa's went up everywhere, now all of the sudden there's 2 corporate "mod wash" car washes within 2 miles of each other, one being built across the street from a smaller local car wash. a quick check shows 9 of them in the metro area now, it was like overnight...
i worked for a company that was the last local business (of this type), it was bought out in 2018 by a corporate chain, the whole industry is now owned by large corporations in this major florida city.
as george carlin once said, "we are given the illusion of choice", but more and more it's being owned by fewer and fewer people. it's like feudalism with i-phones.
Mega Communes of Hate
Citadels of immorality.
Interesting conversation. Those communities sound so sci-fi to me, but here we are, right? Too bad the end was cut off.
American evangelicals follow The Gospel according to the Money Lenders.
You mean like Sam Seder, the usurer?
@@DANVIIL Did you borrow money from Sam?
These kinds of churches are popping up all over San Diego: Awaken church in particular
Hate is just so dumb. What a waste of energy
For real. Their lives are so empty.
Its not dumb, its energy, its not wasted, its utilized. Hate is very powerful and it has great substance. Why would the last 1,000 years only approx 200 of them there was peace? Hate is very powerful, its everywhere and must be acknowledged for what it is: destructive and consuming.
That should be on a Tee shirt!
Don't cut a homie off in the middle of a Son Volt reference!!
The “bowling alone” phenomenon related to the increasing dominance of huge impersonal corporations over the past half century is certainly significant, and I reckon still more so in some parts of the country. It lends itself to bad actors wielding influence.
This is a fascinating sociological look at how right wing extremism manifests in these rural wastelands. I just placed a hold on the author’s book on my Libby app. Can’t wait to read more about it.
What about your formerly nice, now horrible urban wastelands, like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, L.A. etc..?
I love the title of this video. Yeah, citadel's of hate describe Evangelical megachurches perfectly!
Tell us what you think of Hamas vs. Israel, leftist.
As my late Dad used to say, "There's a want about those people."
Yeah I moved to Southern Oregon in 1991 and we did not have a mega church as such but, we do have a big church and a casino. Today it is dollar stores and down town is long dead, many of the small shops that are left have so few hours it feels like they are closed. But the casino is still there. Thank you for giving a name to something I have felt for a long time.
The church of the open pocket book.
Correction: multiple times an hour Texas Roadhouse servers are REQUIRED to “break out in dance”.
Drop EVERYTHING to line dance but also give perfect service.
I was accused of avoiding line dancing when I wanted to get to a table immediately. It was a big problem 🙄
religion hate on steroids.
Arguably more biological tribalism than religion.
@@StephenFlynn-xl2fw False
Double false!
@@moonlightfishin4113 Prove it.
You meant religion is hate on steroids.
You see these around some major Midwestern cities where developers have expanded way beyond the normal city to outpace govt. I consulted for a large church system on a project and it was very disturbing. Real estate agents are pushed for church membership and to share newcomer contact info along with financials.
Yes! The Mega church event attended by my relatives had a casino as part of their fundraising effort. As an atheist, I am amazed. Completely embraced gambing. wow.
this interview was quite depressing...the way these corporations are stripping towns out of their souls is frankly sad and depressing
There won't be no happy music, there won't be no rock 'n' roll when they take away our country they take away our soul - not quite C.W.McCall
1976.
Why? That's exactly what people there wanted. They were stupid enough to believe what rich people told them, they get what they deserve.
My small town had a small grocery store revive outside the landfill, next to an industrial development area. It used to be a sawmill, and the old store was there for the workers and the company town across the street. Between the landfill traffic and the potential industrial traffic they would have had it made even though they were outside the town limits. Well, Dollar General wanted to put a store right in the middle of town, and the grocery store owner was all for it, "let the market decide!" he said. They were closed within a year.
I miss that place. They had great sandwiches and the employees were fun to talk to. In small towns all those businesses become a bit like that old TV show, "Cheers." There's an informality that feels intimate when these small family owned shops pop up. And intimacy that's destroyed by these mega corps pushing shit products and worse wages.
@@mvfusion Yup, because mom and pop cannot compete with massive corps who can afford to take some heavy losses that would bankrupt any mom and pop shops.
@@ToxicAudriWalmart crushed the small town businesses
He described part of everything wrong with El Paso, Texas! And we're pretty big.
Every metro in Texas essentially looks and feels the same.
I moved from a big city on the Great Lakes to a city south of Houston in the'80s and was surprised to find that 90% or more of all restaurants were corporate chains. Couldn't find a pizza joint anywhere. No ethnic food except Mexican and that wasn't considered ethnic since that was just food. I don't want to dump on the city because I have mostly good memories.
I bet you have plenty of Mexican restaurants now
Muy Bueno
Went to Sunday school for 8 years. Catholic school for 2 years. Really weird how no one actually practices Jesus' teachings.
Amazing, isn't it?? SMH
Give it a try.
I'm in Atlanta and mega churches are all over. It isn't a matter of building them in the rural areas. They have congregations that grow to support a bigger building.
I feel like you were describing my town. This is a terrific episode.
As someone who studied urban planning, this is very interesting hearing descriptions about the level of sameness in smaller exurbs.
They seem to not heed the Declaration of Independence, and what it was meant by it, in essence.
Thank you for this interview. Worth knowing.
Never understood how you could look at the symbol of a man literally nailed to a torture device and not see that for the obvious threat it is
... that doesn't make any sense.
It's seen as the sacrifice that Jesus made
It's seen as the sacrifice that Jesus made for us
For us? He was killed because he criticized the hypocritical leaders of organized religion in his own corner of the world.
The clipping of segments has been a little wonky lately. This one cut off at a strange time, a few others have done the same.
Why'd y'all cut it right at the Jay Faraar quote?!?!
We need more community centers with pools, daycare, libraries, classes, tools, green space, etc
I have never heard the term "Citadels of Hate" applied to any venue, let alone a church. But that is the most apros pos term and I will now only think of megachurches this way.
Take away their tax exempt status.
bruh i spent years warning people about the dangers of religion and was called a bigot for it and now look where we are.
And yet you have Trump as your picture?!?!
Who are you again
If only we had listened to billieeisenhower406
Your a few hundred centuries too late for that warning
Still tickled to hear someone reference Jay Farrar and son volt. Totally underappreciated band
I live about a mile away from a tiny, can't even really call it a town, more like a village of about 400 people. There is one locally owned market, a locally owned gas station/mechanic shop and a post office with two employees who also live in the town. The biggest thing going on is the community garden which seems to have like 10-15 volunteers. There isn't a corpo run business within 30 miles. Haven't seen a single church, probably because the majority of the population is Native American so they have their own religious ceremonies and holidays and stuff. There's a kind of a hardware store but you have to call the owner. He then goes in whenever you agree to meet, opens it, sells you whatever then closes it down again when you're done and goes home. There are a few office buildings that employ people, it has its own water system and the personnel to run it. All the essentials except power are provided and run by local people. My water comes from a big black pipe that runs through a bunch of properties, the water itself comes from a local creek that gets filtered then sent through this pipe to the customers. The town itself might have a sewer system, I don't know, but most of the properties just have septic tanks and outhouses and stuff. This is 3 hours deep in the mountains of Northern California next to the Klamath River. I lived in Sacramento for most of my life so this is a huge difference lol. I love it, feel like I'm waiting out the end of the world up here! There actually is a sense of community and the "everyone knows everyone" vibe. I've had people from 15 miles away somehow know who I am before meeting them, which was kinda creepy, but news about new people spreads faster than the yearly wildfires. I live right next to the community garden so I mostly talk to the locals working there, or just in the market or post office. I'm ace and I know of at least one lesbian couple up here and there's zero problems that I've seen. Only thing that gets you treated poorly up here is if you start trouble or steal stuff. I haven't seen a single Trump sticker despite the abundance of pick up trucks. Don't think there's many actual reactionaries. Hell, half the people seem to be semi-retired legacy pot growers. I know of a few people whos one profession skill is trimming buds!
Another thing about these corporate chains, is how terribly managed they are.
Our West Central Illinois state university town is turning into an exurb for sure. It's White Rural, has a "Maga Church" in a former grocery store, most of the students are international (Brown) and there a LOTS of gaming storefronts. It's depressing to say the least.
When I was a far younger man I used to attend church and spent maybe six years attending Sunday school. I used to go to hear a sermon that our minister gave that was uplifting and positive. Then our minister took ill and could not carry on. He was replace with a much younger minister. This fellow used to deliver sermons of nothing but doom, gloom, fear...So I left the church. Today you have these so called pastors and ministers preaching things like the execution of non Christians and LGBTQ people. Telling their congregation that Democrats are evil just for being Democrats. I find that kind of ministry to be totally disgusting and make me glad I left.
What religion is preaching the execution of LGBTXXX's and non-believers?...please enlighten us.
@@user-hx2wx7mk8n Evangelicals who buy into the seven mountains doctrine of theocratic subversion. More broadly, anybody who subscribes to Christian Nationalism, like the founder of Gab.
@@user-hx2wx7mk8n People who subscribe to the same ideology as the founder of Gab.
People are commenting about the video cutting off at the end. I think it's an edit from a larger interview. Anyway, I looked up this song in question and here are the lyrics.
Exurbia
Someone's nightmare dream
Exurbia
Someone's psychedelic scream
There is a gaping hole in the sky
For the next generation
Fed by outdated technology
And the largest cement plant in this country
And people walking and people conversing
Just work, car, interstate and house
Just work, car, interstate and house
There is a gaping hole in the sky
For the next generation
Fed by outdated technology
And the largest cement plant in this country
There is a gaping hole in the sky
For the next generation
Fed by outdated technology
And the largest cement plant in this country
Exurbia
The casinos in upper Michigan are full of elderly people. They take buses to get there. It's sad
It’s all hate and disrespect in order to serve money greed. Advertisement, Preaching and Politics. All the same dead end pathway for mankind.
Exurbia sprawl is basically what Phoenix is.
Grew up there and left at 18 to join the navy. Fuck that hell.
Tax churches and put the money into public education.
It's not a surprise. It's not an irony.
Gambling casinos as well as porn stores, proliferate in many conservative areas.
My relatives are in a mega church setting. EVERYthing they do is linked to the church. They really like eating up their time for more and more propaganda. I once questioned them if all these hours count towards their eventual acceptance into heaven. Never got a straight response. LOL!
This conversation was one of the most enlightening ones I ever heard about the nexus between capitalism, driving, lack of community, lack of local news, and the rise of right wing extremism.
Grew up in a depressed part of Indiana. Everyone was Catholic. Take away the church and there was nothing - no place to go. There's more religious diversity now, but it's still a place completely lacking in any sense of community.
I cant believe anyone can sit for am hour or two and listen to trump speak at a rally
2:11 First time I heard, I thought Sam meant cassinos inside the churches.
I was like "Damn, the upward line of the gambling boom and the downward line of evangelical puritanism* just intersected".
*Of course, the puritanism of the self, not what they demand and impose on others.
The fact is that people need social institutions, social cohesion. If they don't have constructive organizations to adhere to, they'll join destructive ones.
This. And capitalism doesn't incentivise communal spaces that aren't transactional. Min-maxing a process to maximize profits ingerently makes it machine-like. Inhuman.
I moved with family when I was younger, from NYC to rural FL and you guys precisely described everything I see down here.
Very intelligent discussion! Thank you for sharing this.
Describing my hometown of Martinsburg, WV.
Interesting fact: It was the initial era of the huge revival tents, the ancestors of the megas, that drove forward the idea of the Rapture. Now, I know some will dismiss the whole book, and that is their right, but even within that framework, the Rapture is an extrapolation of some text from Revelation no older than the turn of the 18th to 19th Centuries - as such, it just isn't in the Bible at all, but from those musty tents, an idea with no more Biblical basis than The Little Drummer Boy has taken over so many minds it's scary. What's even scarier to me, even as a believer? These revivals occurred within a few decades of the Revolutionary War, which means the people holding them thought our brand-new, barely out of the box country had 'drifted'.
Mega churches = Mega donations
Same goes for all places of worship, none of them pays taxes, and all get donations from the herd.
Wooooow the editor left us on a cliffhanger smh my head
Thanks for creating this video.
what are the opportunities / risks for starting locally owned enterprises, such as news gathering services and events centers? they could be crowdfunded and cooperatively run...maybe by a nonprofit foundation.
I'm not American. Can someone explain what 'exurbia' is? It's like a town but not a town? I don't think I have any parallel for this concept.
rural areas outside of the suburbs
@@armashuvitz Urban areas are cities, Suburban is the semi-urban areas right outside of urban cities, Exurban is the semi-rural area right outside of suburban area, and Rural is the countryside.
@armashuvitz @@ArticBlueFox96 How is there enough people for megachurches and casinos then?
@@ValQuinn North America is a very big continent and the USA is a very big chunk of it comprising about 330 million people, most of which are obligated to have personal vehicles due to our asinine transportation network. Point being, if they can get there within a couple hours by car, they will absolutely try to get there in America.
Most of the landmass is still largely un-built upon and there's no end of "middle of nowhere" counties in the USA. Plenty of room for the absurd urban sprawl and the countryside to be within an hour or two of eachother or less, State depending.
@@patchwurk6652 so it's big empty space and people drive hours to all go to the same megachurch?
Who clipped this it finishes half way through his sentence
This is such an odd video, I'm sure there was some discussion or introduction that came before this, maybe youtube just didn't offer it too me, but, I didn't get much from this...other than apparently there are Megachurches out there...somewhere ...creating their own small towns? Could you have mentioned what churches or where they are located?
The softness and the beauty of the early churches is so easy to see, so is the sharpness and ugliness of these modern mega-churches. No doubt it echo's the thought's of our Christian minds.
What a mess ! Thanks for describing it , though .
Fascinating AND depressing.
David Masciotra - what a resource; exurbia
OHHHH the Boweling alone referance is amazing. Thank you
WTF kind of way is that to end a video? Cutting your guest off mid-sentence. I was actually so invested in the interview. Weird that a media company with decades of experience in the audio space makes such amateurish errors.
Definitely cut off part of his statement at the end there
I think an exception might be Saddleback Church. It has a lot more infrastructure surrounding the county, but if you divided the congregation, measured by weekly attendance, into 15 equally-sized congregations, they'd each meet the definition of a megachurch on their own. There are very few churches that big planetarily!
These are expressions of Christianity that I just do not recognize.
I buy too many books because of you guys 😅
They also love the state of Israel.
Probably ignorant idea from a Dutch person living in The Netherlands where these mega-churches aren't really a thing (we have problematically big ones, don't get me wrong) but, the thing I wondered about the casino's near the mega-churches is this: Could it be that it can be profiled and pictured by the church leaders as a place of worship and a "force against all the evil directly around us."
Basically as a way to tout how good they are doing that they managed to get that spot?
Very interesting…thank you
6:11 this point about community being replaced almost entirely by brands I think is fascinating.
I’m listening to this word salad and I’m left scratching my head about how this is bad.
An exurb is an area outside the typically denser inner suburban area, at the edge of a metropolitan area, which has some economic and commuting connection to the metro area, low housing density, and growth. Wikipedia
This applies also to nations that are isolationist, or forced into isolation via heavy sanctions.
What an elitist outlook. Look at midtown Manhattan. The biggest day in Union Square was when they opened a Whole Foods. Disney took over Times Square. AOC got into politics to prevent a Target from opening in the Bronx on Arthur Avenue. How about Temples? Back in the 1950's Ashkenazi Jews were from the traditions of Europe. Then things changed in the 1980s because the Sephardic Jews like Netanyahu took over with the Orthodox. They support the Likud Government and also the Kahanist. Please respond with a show about it?
Great analysis
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I wish we could have malls again. Nobody has time to go shopping during the day, everybody is working. I honestly don't know how businesses maintain daytime hours anymore.