America's Right-Wing Citadels Of Hate

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  • Live-streamed on April 8, 2024
    David Masciotra, author, lecturer and journalist based in Indiana, discusses his recent book Exurbia Now: The Battleground of American Democracy.
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    After contextualizing the rise of exurbs as a late-stage development of white flight beginning in the mid-‘90s, with real estate firms building up isolated communities in previously rural towns and using exclusionary politics and property tax gimmicks to recruit those still escaping the growing diversity of urban centers and even some suburban areas, Masciotra walks Sam and Emma through the infrastructure of exurbia’s isolation, with residents largely working outside of their towns while all civic, media, and commercial roles are taken over by mega-churches, casinos, and massive corporations, resulting in little-to-no connection with their community, much less the outside world.
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  • @jimough2441
    @jimough2441 หลายเดือนก่อน +400

    Take the tax breaks away and the mega churches go away. Money is the priority for these scammers.

    • @SpiritDetective-jd7wx
      @SpiritDetective-jd7wx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Money is part of this world AND mentioned and USED not only by people in the Bible, but EVERY RELIGION. You don’t know what your talking about.

    • @vipermad358
      @vipermad358 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@SpiritDetective-jd7wxWhom did Jesus literally whip? Money changers in the temple. Your god is Mammon, not "Jesus".

    • @SpiritDetective-jd7wx
      @SpiritDetective-jd7wx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vipermad358 you don’t understand what you are talking about. The reason Jesus did that wasn’t because of the money itself, but because what they were doing in the temple. Money is not evil, the LOVE of money is evil. I can easily disprove you but I’m not gonna waste my time. By the way YOUR god is Mammon not mine chief.

    • @thoughtlesskills
      @thoughtlesskills หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@SpiritDetective-jd7wx derpy derp derp. Wake up child, your brains have spilled all over the street.

    • @Nick-o-time
      @Nick-o-time หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      ​@@SpiritDetective-jd7wxnah, they're right, you worship Mammon.

  • @user-ju7de7zg3q
    @user-ju7de7zg3q หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    To quote Mark Twain... "Church is where you go on Sunday, to beg forgiveness for what you did on Saturday, only to repeat on Monday".

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You reminded me of seeing churchgoers in suits at 8am as we were headed from the rave to the afterparty. Wow did we feel like derelicts! Funny memory thank you.

    • @dominicfucinari1942
      @dominicfucinari1942 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stoneneils If a rave is followed by an afterparty, what is the afterparty like?

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dominicfucinari1942 They were basically the most drug-addled 15-20% of the ravers who didn't have loving home to return to. They were pitch black all day playing ambient techno, everybody was lying down on the floors chatting for hours without any real idea who they were talking to cuz we were too stoned to even look, smoking TONS of cannabis in an attempt to finally get what is known as 'tired'..which is not easy after mdma/speed. They were both loving and depressing at the same time as the weekend was over. :(

    • @davidbrockmeier9538
      @davidbrockmeier9538 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Anton LaVey, who founded the Church of Satan, did so because he used to be an organ player.
      He'd play the organ at a carnival on the weekends and play it at a church on Sundays. Watching the same people sin it up on the weekend, only to repent on Sunday, and then rinse and repeat.

    • @IRGeamer
      @IRGeamer หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      “The best Cure for Christianity is reading the bible.”
      - Mark Twain
      "It ain’t supposed to make sense; it’s faith. Faith is something that you believe that nobody in his right mind would believe.”
      - Archie Bunker

  • @Alltime2050
    @Alltime2050 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    I moved to a rural community in Southern Oregon in 1989. At that time their biggest church held around 5,000 worshipers. It would later swell into the tens of thousands by the end of the millennium. I lived in a valley that was populated by only 150,000 people. Something like 75% of them were either going to the big church or one of the hundreds of smaller churches springing up in strip malls and at private homes all over the place. The Evangelicals were in a heavy recruitment mode and would follow me around like a flock of seagulls trying to save my soul before Y2K brought the second coming of Jesus. They had so much money that about once a week I'd come home to find elaborate 4-color processed door hangers depicting the four horsemen, demonic figures, flames, Jesus, and other scenes of the Apocolypse. It was creepy as F and it was insane.

    • @jameskennedy721
      @jameskennedy721 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      I love when they have to explain that the date they predicted was a bit off but hey - THE END IS STILL COMING REAL SOON !

    • @joegibbskins
      @joegibbskins หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jameskennedy721I mean societal collapse and mass extinctions are coming soon but it’s mostly their fault or at least the fault of the policies they e supported for forty years

    • @dominicfucinari1942
      @dominicfucinari1942 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@jameskennedy721 As it later turned out, most people building careers out of making doomsday predictions are just running ploys to boost book sales.

    • @user-em3vl6li5w
      @user-em3vl6li5w หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I’m British, this is truly frightening, explains a lot though. Parts of America appear like the old Wild West, it’s like society hasn’t evolved.

    • @waitz001
      @waitz001 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is the core issue. Drumpf is just their attempt to destroy democracy.

  • @baconcerberus
    @baconcerberus หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    Had a friend that worked at a dinner down the street from a church. They hated working Sundays as the church crowd was some of the most rudest, entitled, hate filled bunch of people.

    • @user-vo2cw5yu9w
      @user-vo2cw5yu9w หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Been there, done that. I demanded Sunday off. I never mixed well with those nut jobs.

    • @SpiritDetective-jd7wx
      @SpiritDetective-jd7wx หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yet look at all the comments and remarks left by bigoted anti-Christs, make it make sense!

    • @vipermad358
      @vipermad358 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup. The churchy people are literally the worst people, but they are "forgiven", which means they don't have to do fuck all.

    • @Nick-o-time
      @Nick-o-time หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      ​@@SpiritDetective-jd7wxoh no, do we not like the religion that you specifically choose? Too bad fascist.

    • @SpiritDetective-jd7wx
      @SpiritDetective-jd7wx หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nick-o-time fascist? You seem ignorant or uneducated. Why are you calling me a form of government? How does that make any sense.

  • @kcolonelx6181
    @kcolonelx6181 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    The common thread between evangelical megachurches and corporate chains is multi-level marketing of a product.

    • @aliamjon2550
      @aliamjon2550 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, you really don't know anything about this,
      Christians help everyone, including Jews and Muslims,
      Jews and Muslims only help themselves,
      Christians are supposed to get the word of God out, it's in the name evangelical

    • @pickledragonrebel
      @pickledragonrebel หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mormons are also big in the mlms.

    • @07Flash11MRC
      @07Flash11MRC หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True. Just look at Hillsong.

    • @jasonparker6138
      @jasonparker6138 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great observation. Social conservatives like any system that sorts people out into winners and losers, preferably with few winners. If they had grown up in the USSR, they would have been the Party hardliners denouncing others to get ahead.

    • @lorascelsi8102
      @lorascelsi8102 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly

  • @comradeinternet467
    @comradeinternet467 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Megachurches are the ugliest buildings to ever be built. Even malls are less offensive.

    • @Vesta_the_Lesser
      @Vesta_the_Lesser หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At least a mall (proper one, NOT a strip mall) is a place where everyone enjoys going.

    • @brianphillips7696
      @brianphillips7696 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There have been a handful that weren’t architectural atrocities, but most are just cheap warehouses with pretentions.

  • @LorenaBobbitAmericanHero
    @LorenaBobbitAmericanHero หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Remove the Tax Exempt Status of American Churches and fund public education!

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It’s time for the Evangelical Mega Churches and the National Apostolic Reformation Church (aka The Church of Seven mountains, better known as The Domionists) to “Render unto Caesar”

    • @knuckles543
      @knuckles543 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@sawtooth808 think we're past that point
      it should be the reclamation BY caesar, given how much they hide

    • @kare7840
      @kare7840 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Home school maybe, public funding no thank you.

    • @EM2theBee
      @EM2theBee หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@kare7840you would sorely regret losing public infrastructure.

    • @07Flash11MRC
      @07Flash11MRC หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "fund public education!": You need to be more exact: Fund *secular* education! Funding public education ill only lead to creationism and similar (factual )wrongs and lies being taught in school.

  • @EnigmaticGentleman
    @EnigmaticGentleman หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Speaking of the christo crazies, a baptist school near me recently was forced to cancel autism awareness week because some church official said it was demonic. Like at that point its not even a political thing, just vile for the sake of it. (Kudos to the people who actually run that school though, they were legitimately going above and beyond)

    • @LOTIL62
      @LOTIL62 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I heard about this. It's embarrassing the folks running this state see early 1990s Somalia as an inspiration in how to run a state government. Even more embarrassed for the folks who vote for them.

    • @miskatonic_alumni
      @miskatonic_alumni หลายเดือนก่อน

      "By their fruits will ye know them." - some woke socialist

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeap, just what Jesus would do. I remember when Jesus had the power to cure the sick and he said, "f' them. Damn demons".

  • @colibri1
    @colibri1 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    He mentions that, in the past, local media would have given suburbanites/exurbanites humanizing profiles of people like progressive activists and gays but that they're not getting that now. That is so true. In some ways, people were better informed in the days when every town had its own newspaper and every major city had independent local news as part of its programming.

    • @peterbathum2775
      @peterbathum2775 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For profit mass media is not trying to inform voters just divide us.

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    No hate like religious love

    • @IRGeamer
      @IRGeamer หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”
      - Anne Lamott

  • @PaulBallantyne250
    @PaulBallantyne250 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    "Where isolation lives the politics of extremism thrives." So true. And that is why folks from the American outback worship right wing populists like Victor Hanson Davis. He says everything they are thinking but in an articulate semi-intellectual manor.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That's why public schools are so important. With public schools what the students learn there is actually not that important. What is far more important is that they mix people from as many social classes and backgrounds as possible.

    • @jona.scholt4362
      @jona.scholt4362 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @PaulBallantyne250
      I absolutely hate Victor Hanson Davis and the dumb ads which feature him that pop up on TH-cam all the time.
      Can't click "skip" fast enough

    • @jeffersonclippership2588
      @jeffersonclippership2588 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@MrMarinus18 our public school system is useless against these people. It's so localized that public schools in religious, conservative areas end up reinforcing religion and conservatism. We need a centralized education system like a civilized country.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jeffersonclippership2588 I disagree with this notion, sure it's far from perfect but for many children school is still the one place they do meet different people. Even if "different" is a relative statement here but they can not be micromanaged by their parents.
      Schools disrupt parental authority by forcing parents to share it. This is why so many conservatives hate it as they like the idea of a strict and divine hierarchy.
      This is actually what public schools were originally invented to do. To disrupt parental control and help build a nation via standardized education.

    • @jeffersonclippership2588
      @jeffersonclippership2588 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MrMarinus18 you misunderstood, I support public schools, I just think they should be run by a central authority and not a bunch of religious weirdos

  • @ZangariRC
    @ZangariRC หลายเดือนก่อน +226

    Christ psychosis is the number one national security threat..

    • @houdinididiit
      @houdinididiit หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Please don't denigrate Zombie Jesus.

    • @hizzlemobizzle
      @hizzlemobizzle หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@houdinididiit He hassss riseeennnnn muahahaha

    • @ChillAssTurtle
      @ChillAssTurtle หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@hizzlemobizzle werent there like.. 4 or 5 completely different and inconsistent stories about that? XD its almost.... unbelievable XD

    • @62Cristoforo
      @62Cristoforo หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And ‘Jerusalem Syndrome’ in Israel.

    • @moiracneill6478
      @moiracneill6478 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Tell me about it.. this morning as I was scrolling you tube, looking for Gaza related info, just having a coffee, I said causally, to an elderly lady sitting alone, what do you think about Israel? Well, she said, its going to come here soon... 😮..., its the end times, what genocide? ..., revelation, she was utterly righteously ignoring the horror.. the Bible says, etc etc. Damn! .., my great grandfather's Bible has a sermon he wrote... that tithing to the church to help the poor, was less than the good government can do with taxes, and socialism, to help the poor! That taxes were simply like tithing to the church., 😮 amen grand daddy. .

  • @michellerenner6880
    @michellerenner6880 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    The downslide in rural communities is also linked to the disappearance of family run farms too. Big commercial farms are just another version of big business.

    • @GordonPavilion
      @GordonPavilion หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yep!
      Untethered Capitalism leads to Feudalism.

    • @knuckles543
      @knuckles543 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GordonPavilion and lookie here, conservatives historically call for the elimination and restrction of rules and regulations that protect the people from exploitaiton by money hungry nerf-herders!

    • @waitz001
      @waitz001 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well, they sold their land or they ruined the soil

    • @michellerenner6880
      @michellerenner6880 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@waitz001 most didn’t have a choice but to sell… they were forced into bankruptcy

    • @waitz001
      @waitz001 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michellerenner6880 forced to sell HOW MUCH LAND?

  • @StephenFlynn-xl2fw
    @StephenFlynn-xl2fw หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Community rather than ideology is the key. These churches do provide lots of services. Unfortunately the congregants are then hostages to the ambitions (if not corruption) of the preacher-men.

    • @hughjorgen3164
      @hughjorgen3164 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So waaaaaay different than other churches?

    • @michellerenner6880
      @michellerenner6880 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hughjorgen3164Yes, in some ways… because of the basis of the teachings and that they are going after a key demographic. Unlike say, the Catholic Church that might have been more cult like generations ago, but isn’t anymore.

    • @Kitz419
      @Kitz419 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michellerenner6880they’re definitely still a cult. Get together to feast on the flesh of Christ and drink his blood each weekend 😂Lol 😂

    • @pedrob3953
      @pedrob3953 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      A typical suburb is a ocean of single-family houses with nothing else providing community services other than a school and a church. Urban planning is such that nothing else is allowed to be built within the neighborhood, often spreading out for miles.

    • @ChillAssTurtle
      @ChillAssTurtle หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@michellerenner6880a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure. Its still a cult.

  • @subversivelysurreal3645
    @subversivelysurreal3645 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Spencer Gift, oh my gawd, I forgot about that store that I LOVED when I was ten years old. Ha, ha! Thanks, Sam! ❤ Free Palestine 🇵🇸

  • @Joe-ij6of
    @Joe-ij6of หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Boomers told their kids video games would rot their brains, but social media wound up rotting theirs!

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Throw in a few monster trucks and some pyrotechnics and you’ve arrived at Idiocracy, the movie, the show, the reality.

    • @hirampriggott1689
      @hirampriggott1689 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Add lots of American flags too!

  • @jacquelinehembrey4825
    @jacquelinehembrey4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Who edited this video? Why did you end this video by cutting the guest off mid-sentence?

  • @Robert_Bob_Bobrob
    @Robert_Bob_Bobrob หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Citadels of hate made me picture some type of arena where boss music plays when you enter and you get to fight one of the champions of conservatism like Ben Shapiro...

    • @georgesears934
      @georgesears934 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shapiro, Pope of Jews
      Walsh the Questioner
      The Firebrand Fuentes
      Klandice the Traitor
      The Forgotten God, Carlson
      Alex, Psychic Prodigy
      Reuben the Rejected
      Knazi Knowles
      Crowder the Cowardly
      Phalse Prophet Prager
      The Last Koch
      The Legion, Heritage

    • @hizzlemobizzle
      @hizzlemobizzle หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'd buy that for a dollar.

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If made into a game I'd like to play that game as Sam Seder. "Oh no! Sam Seder! What a nightmare!" as he delivers a ko uppercut to Shapiro's chin...

    • @knuckles543
      @knuckles543 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SuperStrik9 kar en tuk?
      (this is a doom reference)

    • @ToxicAudri
      @ToxicAudri หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Needs to have rules like Thunderdome, Two enter, one leaves.

  • @prisonersforprofit
    @prisonersforprofit หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    great conversation, i live in a florida city, one of the few blue counties (barely) in florida, but i've noticed (for a few years) the only development going on is corporate chains or huge development companies, condos and wawa's went up everywhere, now all of the sudden there's 2 corporate "mod wash" car washes within 2 miles of each other, one being built across the street from a smaller local car wash. a quick check shows 9 of them in the metro area now, it was like overnight...
    i worked for a company that was the last local business (of this type), it was bought out in 2018 by a corporate chain, the whole industry is now owned by large corporations in this major florida city.
    as george carlin once said, "we are given the illusion of choice", but more and more it's being owned by fewer and fewer people. it's like feudalism with i-phones.

  • @phillipblair9511
    @phillipblair9511 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Mega Communes of Hate

    • @ToxicAudri
      @ToxicAudri หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Citadels of immorality.

  • @leafyrox
    @leafyrox หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Interesting conversation. Those communities sound so sci-fi to me, but here we are, right? Too bad the end was cut off.

  • @Jebbis
    @Jebbis หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    American evangelicals follow The Gospel according to the Money Lenders.

    • @DANVIIL
      @DANVIIL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean like Sam Seder, the usurer?

    • @Jebbis
      @Jebbis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DANVIIL Did you borrow money from Sam?

  • @loserfantasia
    @loserfantasia หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    These kinds of churches are popping up all over San Diego: Awaken church in particular

  • @bkbland1626
    @bkbland1626 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Hate is just so dumb. What a waste of energy

    • @vipermad358
      @vipermad358 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For real. Their lives are so empty.

    • @luciuscorneliussulla5182
      @luciuscorneliussulla5182 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its not dumb, its energy, its not wasted, its utilized. Hate is very powerful and it has great substance. Why would the last 1,000 years only approx 200 of them there was peace? Hate is very powerful, its everywhere and must be acknowledged for what it is: destructive and consuming.

    • @mikomallorca1421
      @mikomallorca1421 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That should be on a Tee shirt!

  • @emjones8092
    @emjones8092 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Don't cut a homie off in the middle of a Son Volt reference!!

  • @philliphessel6788
    @philliphessel6788 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The “bowling alone” phenomenon related to the increasing dominance of huge impersonal corporations over the past half century is certainly significant, and I reckon still more so in some parts of the country. It lends itself to bad actors wielding influence.

  • @michelebella677
    @michelebella677 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is a fascinating sociological look at how right wing extremism manifests in these rural wastelands. I just placed a hold on the author’s book on my Libby app. Can’t wait to read more about it.

    • @user-hx2wx7mk8n
      @user-hx2wx7mk8n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What about your formerly nice, now horrible urban wastelands, like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, L.A. etc..?

  • @Octoberfurst
    @Octoberfurst หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I love the title of this video. Yeah, citadel's of hate describe Evangelical megachurches perfectly!

    • @user-hx2wx7mk8n
      @user-hx2wx7mk8n หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell us what you think of Hamas vs. Israel, leftist.

  • @AreJayCee
    @AreJayCee หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As my late Dad used to say, "There's a want about those people."

  • @user-ub4lk3pf3w
    @user-ub4lk3pf3w หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yeah I moved to Southern Oregon in 1991 and we did not have a mega church as such but, we do have a big church and a casino. Today it is dollar stores and down town is long dead, many of the small shops that are left have so few hours it feels like they are closed. But the casino is still there. Thank you for giving a name to something I have felt for a long time.

  • @patricklynch9574
    @patricklynch9574 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The church of the open pocket book.

  • @OscarLangleySoryu
    @OscarLangleySoryu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Correction: multiple times an hour Texas Roadhouse servers are REQUIRED to “break out in dance”.
    Drop EVERYTHING to line dance but also give perfect service.
    I was accused of avoiding line dancing when I wanted to get to a table immediately. It was a big problem 🙄

  • @pc3244
    @pc3244 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    religion hate on steroids.

    • @StephenFlynn-xl2fw
      @StephenFlynn-xl2fw หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arguably more biological tribalism than religion.

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StephenFlynn-xl2fw False

    • @moonlightfishin4113
      @moonlightfishin4113 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Double false!

    • @ToxicAudri
      @ToxicAudri หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@moonlightfishin4113 Prove it.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You meant religion is hate on steroids.

  • @JohnHall
    @JohnHall หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You see these around some major Midwestern cities where developers have expanded way beyond the normal city to outpace govt. I consulted for a large church system on a project and it was very disturbing. Real estate agents are pushed for church membership and to share newcomer contact info along with financials.

  • @MrEmpireBuilder0000
    @MrEmpireBuilder0000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes! The Mega church event attended by my relatives had a casino as part of their fundraising effort. As an atheist, I am amazed. Completely embraced gambing. wow.

  • @cayetano6547
    @cayetano6547 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    this interview was quite depressing...the way these corporations are stripping towns out of their souls is frankly sad and depressing

    • @sophiepooks2174
      @sophiepooks2174 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There won't be no happy music, there won't be no rock 'n' roll when they take away our country they take away our soul - not quite C.W.McCall
      1976.

    • @jeffersonclippership2588
      @jeffersonclippership2588 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why? That's exactly what people there wanted. They were stupid enough to believe what rich people told them, they get what they deserve.

    • @mvfusion
      @mvfusion หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My small town had a small grocery store revive outside the landfill, next to an industrial development area. It used to be a sawmill, and the old store was there for the workers and the company town across the street. Between the landfill traffic and the potential industrial traffic they would have had it made even though they were outside the town limits. Well, Dollar General wanted to put a store right in the middle of town, and the grocery store owner was all for it, "let the market decide!" he said. They were closed within a year.
      I miss that place. They had great sandwiches and the employees were fun to talk to. In small towns all those businesses become a bit like that old TV show, "Cheers." There's an informality that feels intimate when these small family owned shops pop up. And intimacy that's destroyed by these mega corps pushing shit products and worse wages.

    • @ToxicAudri
      @ToxicAudri หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mvfusion Yup, because mom and pop cannot compete with massive corps who can afford to take some heavy losses that would bankrupt any mom and pop shops.

    • @terryowen6759
      @terryowen6759 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ToxicAudriWalmart crushed the small town businesses

  • @_jjcaballero
    @_jjcaballero หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    He described part of everything wrong with El Paso, Texas! And we're pretty big.

    • @my0p1n10nst1nks
      @my0p1n10nst1nks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Every metro in Texas essentially looks and feels the same.

  • @weltraumaffe4155
    @weltraumaffe4155 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I moved from a big city on the Great Lakes to a city south of Houston in the'80s and was surprised to find that 90% or more of all restaurants were corporate chains. Couldn't find a pizza joint anywhere. No ethnic food except Mexican and that wasn't considered ethnic since that was just food. I don't want to dump on the city because I have mostly good memories.

    • @nnonotnow
      @nnonotnow หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet you have plenty of Mexican restaurants now
      Muy Bueno

  • @HKim0072
    @HKim0072 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Went to Sunday school for 8 years. Catholic school for 2 years. Really weird how no one actually practices Jesus' teachings.

  • @barneyyoungjr5988
    @barneyyoungjr5988 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm in Atlanta and mega churches are all over. It isn't a matter of building them in the rural areas. They have congregations that grow to support a bigger building.

  • @suttonlarry7354
    @suttonlarry7354 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I feel like you were describing my town. This is a terrific episode.

  • @ecoRfan
    @ecoRfan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who studied urban planning, this is very interesting hearing descriptions about the level of sameness in smaller exurbs.

  • @SIERRATREES
    @SIERRATREES หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They seem to not heed the Declaration of Independence, and what it was meant by it, in essence.

  • @JemLeavitt
    @JemLeavitt หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for this interview. Worth knowing.

  • @feebleterrance
    @feebleterrance หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Never understood how you could look at the symbol of a man literally nailed to a torture device and not see that for the obvious threat it is

    • @AdonisMediaProductions
      @AdonisMediaProductions หลายเดือนก่อน

      ... that doesn't make any sense.

    • @terryowen6759
      @terryowen6759 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's seen as the sacrifice that Jesus made

    • @terryowen6759
      @terryowen6759 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's seen as the sacrifice that Jesus made for us

    • @reidwhitton6248
      @reidwhitton6248 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For us? He was killed because he criticized the hypocritical leaders of organized religion in his own corner of the world.

  • @Josh-ie9cd
    @Josh-ie9cd หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The clipping of segments has been a little wonky lately. This one cut off at a strange time, a few others have done the same.

  • @TheybyBaby
    @TheybyBaby หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why'd y'all cut it right at the Jay Faraar quote?!?!

  • @dusklvr
    @dusklvr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need more community centers with pools, daycare, libraries, classes, tools, green space, etc

  • @jamaalrichardson4966
    @jamaalrichardson4966 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have never heard the term "Citadels of Hate" applied to any venue, let alone a church. But that is the most apros pos term and I will now only think of megachurches this way.

  • @PeterMayer
    @PeterMayer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Take away their tax exempt status.

  • @billieeisenhower406
    @billieeisenhower406 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    bruh i spent years warning people about the dangers of religion and was called a bigot for it and now look where we are.

    • @jacquelinehembrey4825
      @jacquelinehembrey4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And yet you have Trump as your picture?!?!

    • @Sernival
      @Sernival หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who are you again

    • @twobitsnick
      @twobitsnick หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If only we had listened to billieeisenhower406

    • @terryowen6759
      @terryowen6759 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your a few hundred centuries too late for that warning

  • @ohbluescouser6267
    @ohbluescouser6267 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Still tickled to hear someone reference Jay Farrar and son volt. Totally underappreciated band

  • @edwardzignot2681
    @edwardzignot2681 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live about a mile away from a tiny, can't even really call it a town, more like a village of about 400 people. There is one locally owned market, a locally owned gas station/mechanic shop and a post office with two employees who also live in the town. The biggest thing going on is the community garden which seems to have like 10-15 volunteers. There isn't a corpo run business within 30 miles. Haven't seen a single church, probably because the majority of the population is Native American so they have their own religious ceremonies and holidays and stuff. There's a kind of a hardware store but you have to call the owner. He then goes in whenever you agree to meet, opens it, sells you whatever then closes it down again when you're done and goes home. There are a few office buildings that employ people, it has its own water system and the personnel to run it. All the essentials except power are provided and run by local people. My water comes from a big black pipe that runs through a bunch of properties, the water itself comes from a local creek that gets filtered then sent through this pipe to the customers. The town itself might have a sewer system, I don't know, but most of the properties just have septic tanks and outhouses and stuff. This is 3 hours deep in the mountains of Northern California next to the Klamath River. I lived in Sacramento for most of my life so this is a huge difference lol. I love it, feel like I'm waiting out the end of the world up here! There actually is a sense of community and the "everyone knows everyone" vibe. I've had people from 15 miles away somehow know who I am before meeting them, which was kinda creepy, but news about new people spreads faster than the yearly wildfires. I live right next to the community garden so I mostly talk to the locals working there, or just in the market or post office. I'm ace and I know of at least one lesbian couple up here and there's zero problems that I've seen. Only thing that gets you treated poorly up here is if you start trouble or steal stuff. I haven't seen a single Trump sticker despite the abundance of pick up trucks. Don't think there's many actual reactionaries. Hell, half the people seem to be semi-retired legacy pot growers. I know of a few people whos one profession skill is trimming buds!

  • @pavld335
    @pavld335 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another thing about these corporate chains, is how terribly managed they are.

  • @MrPhotodoc
    @MrPhotodoc หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Our West Central Illinois state university town is turning into an exurb for sure. It's White Rural, has a "Maga Church" in a former grocery store, most of the students are international (Brown) and there a LOTS of gaming storefronts. It's depressing to say the least.

  • @shwicksdad
    @shwicksdad หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I was a far younger man I used to attend church and spent maybe six years attending Sunday school. I used to go to hear a sermon that our minister gave that was uplifting and positive. Then our minister took ill and could not carry on. He was replace with a much younger minister. This fellow used to deliver sermons of nothing but doom, gloom, fear...So I left the church. Today you have these so called pastors and ministers preaching things like the execution of non Christians and LGBTQ people. Telling their congregation that Democrats are evil just for being Democrats. I find that kind of ministry to be totally disgusting and make me glad I left.

    • @user-hx2wx7mk8n
      @user-hx2wx7mk8n หลายเดือนก่อน

      What religion is preaching the execution of LGBTXXX's and non-believers?...please enlighten us.

    • @miskatonic_alumni
      @miskatonic_alumni หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-hx2wx7mk8n Evangelicals who buy into the seven mountains doctrine of theocratic subversion. More broadly, anybody who subscribes to Christian Nationalism, like the founder of Gab.

    • @miskatonic_alumni
      @miskatonic_alumni หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-hx2wx7mk8n People who subscribe to the same ideology as the founder of Gab.

  • @nnonotnow
    @nnonotnow หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People are commenting about the video cutting off at the end. I think it's an edit from a larger interview. Anyway, I looked up this song in question and here are the lyrics.
    Exurbia
    Someone's nightmare dream
    Exurbia
    Someone's psychedelic scream
    There is a gaping hole in the sky
    For the next generation
    Fed by outdated technology
    And the largest cement plant in this country
    And people walking and people conversing
    Just work, car, interstate and house
    Just work, car, interstate and house
    There is a gaping hole in the sky
    For the next generation
    Fed by outdated technology
    And the largest cement plant in this country
    There is a gaping hole in the sky
    For the next generation
    Fed by outdated technology
    And the largest cement plant in this country
    Exurbia

  • @michaelsaparito
    @michaelsaparito หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The casinos in upper Michigan are full of elderly people. They take buses to get there. It's sad

  • @mtn1793
    @mtn1793 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s all hate and disrespect in order to serve money greed. Advertisement, Preaching and Politics. All the same dead end pathway for mankind.

  • @brycetomecek5065
    @brycetomecek5065 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exurbia sprawl is basically what Phoenix is.
    Grew up there and left at 18 to join the navy. Fuck that hell.

  • @HamptonGuitars
    @HamptonGuitars หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tax churches and put the money into public education.

  • @MrEmpireBuilder0000
    @MrEmpireBuilder0000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's not a surprise. It's not an irony.
    Gambling casinos as well as porn stores, proliferate in many conservative areas.

  • @MrEmpireBuilder0000
    @MrEmpireBuilder0000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My relatives are in a mega church setting. EVERYthing they do is linked to the church. They really like eating up their time for more and more propaganda. I once questioned them if all these hours count towards their eventual acceptance into heaven. Never got a straight response. LOL!

  • @JMT1985MO
    @JMT1985MO หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This conversation was one of the most enlightening ones I ever heard about the nexus between capitalism, driving, lack of community, lack of local news, and the rise of right wing extremism.

  • @thomasd4738
    @thomasd4738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grew up in a depressed part of Indiana. Everyone was Catholic. Take away the church and there was nothing - no place to go. There's more religious diversity now, but it's still a place completely lacking in any sense of community.

  • @cgkkjggh9290
    @cgkkjggh9290 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I cant believe anyone can sit for am hour or two and listen to trump speak at a rally

  • @stefanoalves8862
    @stefanoalves8862 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:11 First time I heard, I thought Sam meant cassinos inside the churches.
    I was like "Damn, the upward line of the gambling boom and the downward line of evangelical puritanism* just intersected".
    *Of course, the puritanism of the self, not what they demand and impose on others.

  • @aheroictaxidriver3180
    @aheroictaxidriver3180 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The fact is that people need social institutions, social cohesion. If they don't have constructive organizations to adhere to, they'll join destructive ones.

    • @Valhan177
      @Valhan177 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This. And capitalism doesn't incentivise communal spaces that aren't transactional. Min-maxing a process to maximize profits ingerently makes it machine-like. Inhuman.

  • @DarkWater4Eva
    @DarkWater4Eva หลายเดือนก่อน

    I moved with family when I was younger, from NYC to rural FL and you guys precisely described everything I see down here.

  • @user-fc7is6jo2e
    @user-fc7is6jo2e หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very intelligent discussion! Thank you for sharing this.

  • @CassilovesMocha
    @CassilovesMocha หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Describing my hometown of Martinsburg, WV.

  • @shoresean1237
    @shoresean1237 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting fact: It was the initial era of the huge revival tents, the ancestors of the megas, that drove forward the idea of the Rapture. Now, I know some will dismiss the whole book, and that is their right, but even within that framework, the Rapture is an extrapolation of some text from Revelation no older than the turn of the 18th to 19th Centuries - as such, it just isn't in the Bible at all, but from those musty tents, an idea with no more Biblical basis than The Little Drummer Boy has taken over so many minds it's scary. What's even scarier to me, even as a believer? These revivals occurred within a few decades of the Revolutionary War, which means the people holding them thought our brand-new, barely out of the box country had 'drifted'.

  • @mvstermlnd
    @mvstermlnd หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mega churches = Mega donations

    • @mvstermlnd
      @mvstermlnd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same goes for all places of worship, none of them pays taxes, and all get donations from the herd.

  • @hughquigley5337
    @hughquigley5337 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wooooow the editor left us on a cliffhanger smh my head

  • @operasinger2126
    @operasinger2126 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for creating this video.

  • @RatPfink66
    @RatPfink66 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what are the opportunities / risks for starting locally owned enterprises, such as news gathering services and events centers? they could be crowdfunded and cooperatively run...maybe by a nonprofit foundation.

  • @ValQuinn
    @ValQuinn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not American. Can someone explain what 'exurbia' is? It's like a town but not a town? I don't think I have any parallel for this concept.

    • @armashuvitz
      @armashuvitz หลายเดือนก่อน

      rural areas outside of the suburbs

    • @ArticBlueFox96
      @ArticBlueFox96 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@armashuvitz Urban areas are cities, Suburban is the semi-urban areas right outside of urban cities, Exurban is the semi-rural area right outside of suburban area, and Rural is the countryside.

    • @ValQuinn
      @ValQuinn หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@armashuvitz @@ArticBlueFox96 How is there enough people for megachurches and casinos then?

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ValQuinn North America is a very big continent and the USA is a very big chunk of it comprising about 330 million people, most of which are obligated to have personal vehicles due to our asinine transportation network. Point being, if they can get there within a couple hours by car, they will absolutely try to get there in America.
      Most of the landmass is still largely un-built upon and there's no end of "middle of nowhere" counties in the USA. Plenty of room for the absurd urban sprawl and the countryside to be within an hour or two of eachother or less, State depending.

    • @ValQuinn
      @ValQuinn หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patchwurk6652 so it's big empty space and people drive hours to all go to the same megachurch?

  • @legaliseme
    @legaliseme หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who clipped this it finishes half way through his sentence

  • @terryowen6759
    @terryowen6759 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such an odd video, I'm sure there was some discussion or introduction that came before this, maybe youtube just didn't offer it too me, but, I didn't get much from this...other than apparently there are Megachurches out there...somewhere ...creating their own small towns? Could you have mentioned what churches or where they are located?

  • @nevillemignot1681
    @nevillemignot1681 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The softness and the beauty of the early churches is so easy to see, so is the sharpness and ugliness of these modern mega-churches. No doubt it echo's the thought's of our Christian minds.

  • @jameskennedy721
    @jameskennedy721 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a mess ! Thanks for describing it , though .

  • @stansbruv3169
    @stansbruv3169 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating AND depressing.

  • @ajstclair
    @ajstclair หลายเดือนก่อน

    David Masciotra - what a resource; exurbia

  • @NotAJedi66
    @NotAJedi66 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OHHHH the Boweling alone referance is amazing. Thank you

  • @Nippleless_Cage
    @Nippleless_Cage หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    WTF kind of way is that to end a video? Cutting your guest off mid-sentence. I was actually so invested in the interview. Weird that a media company with decades of experience in the audio space makes such amateurish errors.

  • @Lalaphive
    @Lalaphive หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definitely cut off part of his statement at the end there

  • @dominicfucinari1942
    @dominicfucinari1942 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think an exception might be Saddleback Church. It has a lot more infrastructure surrounding the county, but if you divided the congregation, measured by weekly attendance, into 15 equally-sized congregations, they'd each meet the definition of a megachurch on their own. There are very few churches that big planetarily!

  • @ballinkingston
    @ballinkingston หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These are expressions of Christianity that I just do not recognize.

  • @liesalllies
    @liesalllies หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I buy too many books because of you guys 😅

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They also love the state of Israel.

  • @Dutch3DMaster
    @Dutch3DMaster หลายเดือนก่อน

    Probably ignorant idea from a Dutch person living in The Netherlands where these mega-churches aren't really a thing (we have problematically big ones, don't get me wrong) but, the thing I wondered about the casino's near the mega-churches is this: Could it be that it can be profiled and pictured by the church leaders as a place of worship and a "force against all the evil directly around us."
    Basically as a way to tout how good they are doing that they managed to get that spot?

  • @daveclarke60
    @daveclarke60 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting…thank you

  • @mattfox2716
    @mattfox2716 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:11 this point about community being replaced almost entirely by brands I think is fascinating.

  • @jimcampbell2610
    @jimcampbell2610 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m listening to this word salad and I’m left scratching my head about how this is bad.

  • @HallyVee
    @HallyVee หลายเดือนก่อน

    An exurb is an area outside the typically denser inner suburban area, at the edge of a metropolitan area, which has some economic and commuting connection to the metro area, low housing density, and growth. Wikipedia

  • @samuelrosander1048
    @samuelrosander1048 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This applies also to nations that are isolationist, or forced into isolation via heavy sanctions.

  • @wevaluebuildings
    @wevaluebuildings หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an elitist outlook. Look at midtown Manhattan. The biggest day in Union Square was when they opened a Whole Foods. Disney took over Times Square. AOC got into politics to prevent a Target from opening in the Bronx on Arthur Avenue. How about Temples? Back in the 1950's Ashkenazi Jews were from the traditions of Europe. Then things changed in the 1980s because the Sephardic Jews like Netanyahu took over with the Orthodox. They support the Likud Government and also the Kahanist. Please respond with a show about it?

  • @ronaldkable
    @ronaldkable หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great analysis

  • @nonyabidness8676
    @nonyabidness8676 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:30
    I wish we could have malls again. Nobody has time to go shopping during the day, everybody is working. I honestly don't know how businesses maintain daytime hours anymore.