The ability to pull aggro does not define the term. "Tanky." Being "Tanky" is the ability to take alot of damage and still be able to be in a fight. Not running around hiding from the boss, hoping that he stops aggroing you long enough to recover health.
To remove Bunny from top they need to buff drop rates. If I have to run a mission 5-10 times to get what I want, then I wouldn't mind using others, but when I'm on my 60th run and still dont have my drop you better believe I'm using Bunny.
Also btw I’m betting they’ll nerf Hailey right after the season. They made her so OP and the grind for her so absurd deliberately so players will buy her (add in some BOOB SKINS as the final temptation). Then when it’s over they’ll “balance” saying they never “intended” her to be so OP and half her damage. But we’ll see…that’s just a prediction. I definitely am angry they chose Ajax of all descendants to nerf substantially yet also call it a “buff” with a minority of players I’ve seen still defending such bs
She can 3 shot bosses with ease, but lets nerf a tank with barely any abilities with damage, what a joke. I was gonna get ult ajax after mid investing in starter ajax but i might as well get valby or gley, since i see a nerf for hailey coming
@@ultimaballer never said I was an Ajax main just that I think it's unfair that he is the only descendant that I know that has had his abilities weakened even with Hailey making all other bossing builds obsolete
Bruh 30k hp is good enough for Ajax, you already tank most damage, being able to enhance yourself to doll out more damage and quickly is far better along with the inate tankiness
I´m also too sorry to hear this. I just after hard grinding just finnished researching my Ult Ajax so i can try to defeat my second hard boss. I know the game is free to play and the devs can do what pleases but have they even explained why they did this? And they are saying in their infos that they are listening to players. I doubt anyone have wanted this. Seems to be that when they release something good in their updates, next day there will be something bad.
Im with you on the body enhancement nerf. You lose me at the shield buff. The shield scales thr same but now even shirlds better because it can absorb more if you have resistance
I dont see this as bad, considering his new buffs are good. That and him being a tank well, he really isn't a tank. Their is no agro in the game to get the focus of the enemies so your teammates can nuke. If theirs no agro, then he really isn't a tank. What he does really well is being able to take punishment and dish out high damage. That's the reason i chose him. So i dont have to rely on my allies. When they die, they die, and i continue to battle on. Usually, due to everyone using high damage characters with very low health, i usually just ignore them and let them die, and then they can revive on their own.
You don’t sound like a very good Ajax then lol. Also nope…this was 100% a nerf. What BUFFS?! The 10% fire arm atk inside hyper cube at the expense of 30% less hp and defense, 30% higher cooldown penalty, and 20% skill cost penalty? OOOOOOO….SO AWESOME!!! 😂😂😂😂
Most people don't even know to run his kit. Just learn how to run his kit and your fine. Ajax was never a tank to begin with. Which makes sense of the update he got. If you think this is a nerf then I don't know what to tell you.
@@foxnfire6388that 10% atk increase was just because of the enhanced version of the ability. It's not even related to the mod... so that's not even a buff.
Ajax is a tank character it says so in his description, aside from that a tank character means a character with high defence, health and shields , they dont necessarily need to attract aggro a tank is a character that has higher survivability and a character that buff allies while also protecting them, wat would be wise is that they either adds a taunt or sunm to his kit to draw aggro, i have an ajax and i am doing fine with 12k health and 100k defence,300 shield on my void walk build just use the Brave set.
@@gamin-sn8qjI got mine the day after the nerf and still not sure I will continue playing. With energy activator grind and now a nerf…Warframe is looking better.
They need to get their tanking stuff in like. We need a taunt number 1. But number 2 they need to balance the characters man. Fully built Blair ult with skill mod hits for like 7 million and Hailey’s second ability that’s not even a ult hits for 15 million and up!
Esimo has a transcendent mod that taunts enemies...plus Ajax can draw aggro if you use your 2 to engage...they will be more interested in killing you after stun wears off than anyone else. Anyone that plays Ajax just needs to get comfortable with being in the face of the enemy and other players need to distance themselves to lower the chance of drawing aggro to themselves
100% agree. Definitely a nerf but I’ve done what I can to compensate. I will say you CAN justify maxing resist now because your shield mods aren’t worth it anymore anyway. Get rid of that and I overwhelming hp. I rebuilt my BE Ajax such that he finally feels good again (not AS good) and a true colossi tank build. You can see how tanky he still with barriers vs. Gluttony. I still prefer BE overall than Life Barrier. If they would just remove the stupid penalties on it then there’d be no question to me anymore. m.th-cam.com/video/s9x0lI6qOk0/w-d-xo.html And then if you just want to enjoy using him…yes…void walker build can definitely farm quite well and still be very tanky and enough for all the other non colossus bosses in game. m.th-cam.com/video/RJzf7kkwaRE/w-d-xo.html Also yeah you HAVE to change your elemental resists on the BE build depending on the colossus which also means you’re forced to spend a ton more catalysts and grinding time. Thank you Nexon!
@@epitome278 I use all 3 with resist on component too. Resist stacks multiplicatively the same as defense and hp so you need all of them to get the insanely higher 23k+ numbers
@foxnfire6388 the gold ones are a % so the more dmg a boss does the more the gold ones will work, and again all elements are only 1 polarity which is nice. Just know that bosses don't only do elemental dmg with their attacks , it's kind of like how our weapons do elemental dmg where they have their flat damage and a % of elemental
@@epitome278 yes I know I’m saying I use all 3 RELATED resist mods. Also ONLY the golds have the same polarity. The blue and purple all have different ones forcing you to grind way more to have different settings for each
@novaDF6871 Agreed never was a tank to begin with, having a lot of defense, shield, and HP with no way to pull aggro away from team is not a tank. It's a damage sponge.
Ajax is a tank...tanks survive heavy damage as they should and guess what he does that...I get plenty of the aggro in groups because I try to be the closest to the boss so it will most likely target me first. If you want a taunt use Esimo,he has a augment for that
@novaDF6871 have you considered being on the front lines with Ajax? Jump into enemies with his two and boom they mainly want to kill you now after stun wears off. Instead of asking for a taunt just get in the face of enemies. As Ajax you want to be the first to engage enemies or use his two and three to stun and take aggro off of someone else
@@exorouge238 oh ofcourse! Only if the game was designed for him to be a tank but right now that is not the case sadly. So i play the the game is MEANT tp be play with kit he has. Until them it is what it is. Go talk to the devs not me lmao. There is not trinity here nor any content that demands it at this time. Otherwise yujin,ajax and 2 other dps type would be the standard group at all times. Right now is hogh dps and kill things fast thats about it. People like to see big numbers apparently. I also never said i wanted a taunt.
They did this to balance the resistance because people arent investing on resistance ....also the inversion also has a stat on resistance( 1 on the 5 ) so they want to make resistance as important as health and defence...so this balance is vital...so ajax isnt for damaging tbh his a tank and if he isnt investing into resistance then he shouldnt be tanking tbh.. also they made some of his transcendence better right ? Like he can make it into a spell type perma jump build with void charge ( will be like valby x 2 per skill)....also if people are interested into a bossing build then maybe focus on other descendent instead of a tank
Bull crap dude. Although I rebalanced my build to now add resist indeed, I also had resist before the nerf on similar BE build anyway. Also resist is ONLY good on the last 3 colossi. You can still face tank all other bosses without. And even if you MAX resist right NOW AND Life Barrier…Gluttony will STILL break your barriers fast. I did my best to rebuild. I still like Ajax. But screw the nerf. This was absolutely a nerf. There was a literally a 200k shield build on Ajax too prior to this lol… Then people obsessed with “muh balance! You must grind again too!” come and defense this bs.
@@foxnfire6388 im just saying this so that the ajax main will do the job of playing defensive and not trying to damage when they are not well equip...like u dont want a lepic or gley to be tanking when there is a ajax there thinking he should be doing more damage then both of them in a gluttony fight ....instead of cooling the ajax thinks his enduring gonna carry the entire 4 team against a 150 million hp gluttony when lepic and gley does more then 100 million by themselve and hence no one does the cooling and they lose the fight ....oh i forgot they nerf ajax so he couldnt play defensive cause resistance isnt important in a tank
@@lov.2.g If Gluttony didn’t have the usual bs instant kill mechanics my Ajax NOW could solo him, let alone before when I could stack either 200k shields with instant recovery or 57k hp still with 50k defense and one chill resist module and chill resist on sensor. What was the NEED for this nerf again? Ajax’s were already playing defensively in the fights because they already knew their sole damage was their gun lol. And you don’t really need him even in Gluttony if you just have 3 dps builds with a Luna or Yujin and some coordination. I would I say a good tank/barrier Ajax build like mine definitely still helps though. But Ajax isn’t even needed everywhere else in game. IMO, they should remove the bs penalties now with body enhancement, change the puny “buffs” with his enhanced skills like, instead, remove orbit barrier’s reflect but make it invulnerable so Ajax finally has a consistently reliable defense skill against any boss regardless of their damage, and finally make him draw aggro. THEN he’d be very useful against the hardest bosses in game and almost necessity. Also change the buff for hyper cube to provide a high hp/defense within to justify dps builds staying inside to focus their attacks. Ajax could then just pop the sphere and leave it for teammates while he tanks the boss with aggro and a stronger barrier
@@foxnfire6388 u know why ? Cuz thats how a game implement support ....if everyone does damage then we dont need support...so if u play ur role ,game will be easier..there are way too many descendent for you then to just say "oh this tanky descendent being nerf so i can go offensive on him because i need slot to put for resistance " when in fact u have other descendent to do offence and you can just switch to other descendent if u need to go offence...as for ur stats allocation...that is why they nerf him....if they dont , might as well we dont have resistance ...if the tank doesnt allocate into resistance , do you think offensive descendent will do so ? Think about it
I mean no disrespect to anyone. but Ajax we never a tank and was never meant to be. he DOES have the highest hp - defense out of all Descendants.. but those high HP meme builds made the devs change him to a spread type character.. Ajax does not have AGRO skills so i dont see the stigma that Ajax is supposed to be a "tank" he is a support and a great mobber. im an Ajax main and im doing just fine with gluttony and all content.. he is actually pretty strong now.. HP build is for BAD players.. i support the team in gluttony AND do decent weapon damage with enduring legacy. so please dont get mad at me im just stating that other youtubers led most of yall to believe the MEME high HP tank was a thing. Ajax is one of the strongest and funnest descendants out right now. if you need more understanding of ajax go see FERVOR GAMING youtuber he will lay it down for you.. i feel for most of you for investing on RUSHED builds before season one of Ajax. you are not meant to be picking up bunnies in colossi fights some bunnies should be there to begin with (for some colossi) like i said dont get get mad at me go check the other guy i mentioned and then see what you think.
If you jump into a group of enemies you normally become the new target for aggro so actually he does have aggro capabilities you just have to you know get in the face of the enemies
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The ability to pull aggro does not define the term. "Tanky." Being "Tanky" is the ability to take alot of damage and still be able to be in a fight. Not running around hiding from the boss, hoping that he stops aggroing you long enough to recover health.
The game should be called The Bunny Descendants, I'm tired of that stupid character in every mission. Yes, I'm a Bunny hater, lazy player character.
Same. Bunny with this monkey's gameplay kill all characters...
I don't really care if it gets the job done.
Nobody care, more bunny more money for nexon, ur hate mean nothing lol
I recommend anyone that likes an electric skill character to try out Sharon. She is way less annoying and has some cool skills.
To remove Bunny from top they need to buff drop rates.
If I have to run a mission 5-10 times to get what I want, then I wouldn't mind using others, but when I'm on my 60th run and still dont have my drop you better believe I'm using Bunny.
Also btw I’m betting they’ll nerf Hailey right after the season. They made her so OP and the grind for her so absurd deliberately so players will buy her (add in some BOOB SKINS as the final temptation).
Then when it’s over they’ll “balance” saying they never “intended” her to be so OP and half her damage.
But we’ll see…that’s just a prediction. I definitely am angry they chose Ajax of all descendants to nerf substantially yet also call it a “buff” with a minority of players I’ve seen still defending such bs
She can 3 shot bosses with ease, but lets nerf a tank with barely any abilities with damage, what a joke. I was gonna get ult ajax after mid investing in starter ajax but i might as well get valby or gley, since i see a nerf for hailey coming
Sorry to hear this, I was going to grab Ultimate Ajax next.
😂 he not nerf you just dont know how to play ajax. He not a hp sponge
@@ultimaballer never said I was an Ajax main just that I think it's unfair that he is the only descendant that I know that has had his abilities weakened even with Hailey making all other bossing builds obsolete
Mine is 😝
They needed to nerf Ajax so dumb Bunny's and Hailey's won't have a babysitter to pick them up every time they get one shot 😂
I was wondering where 4k of my hp went...had a little bit over 34k hp before changes 🤔 i like having the void energy again though, help the gley's 😎
Bruh 30k hp is good enough for Ajax, you already tank most damage, being able to enhance yourself to doll out more damage and quickly is far better along with the inate tankiness
I´m also too sorry to hear this. I just after hard grinding just finnished researching my Ult Ajax so i can try to defeat my second hard boss. I know the game is free to play and the devs can do what pleases but have they even explained why they did this? And they are saying in their infos that they are listening to players. I doubt anyone have wanted this. Seems to be that when they release something good in their updates, next day there will be something bad.
Im with you on the body enhancement nerf. You lose me at the shield buff. The shield scales thr same but now even shirlds better because it can absorb more if you have resistance
Hate this nerf, he was fun to play. Now I can't walk into a fire fight without needing help to survive in the higher tier missions.
I dont see this as bad, considering his new buffs are good. That and him being a tank well, he really isn't a tank. Their is no agro in the game to get the focus of the enemies so your teammates can nuke. If theirs no agro, then he really isn't a tank. What he does really well is being able to take punishment and dish out high damage. That's the reason i chose him. So i dont have to rely on my allies. When they die, they die, and i continue to battle on. Usually, due to everyone using high damage characters with very low health, i usually just ignore them and let them die, and then they can revive on their own.
You don’t sound like a very good Ajax then lol. Also nope…this was 100% a nerf. What BUFFS?! The 10% fire arm atk inside hyper cube at the expense of 30% less hp and defense, 30% higher cooldown penalty, and 20% skill cost penalty? OOOOOOO….SO AWESOME!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@foxnfire6388 go play other descendent instead of crying why a tank cant do damage ...its plan stupid tbh
Most people don't even know to run his kit. Just learn how to run his kit and your fine. Ajax was never a tank to begin with. Which makes sense of the update he got. If you think this is a nerf then I don't know what to tell you.
@@foxnfire6388that 10% atk increase was just because of the enhanced version of the ability. It's not even related to the mod... so that's not even a buff.
Ajax is a tank character it says so in his description, aside from that a tank character means a character with high defence, health and shields , they dont necessarily need to attract aggro a tank is a character that has higher survivability and a character that buff allies while also protecting them, wat would be wise is that they either adds a taunt or sunm to his kit to draw aggro, i have an ajax and i am doing fine with 12k health and 100k defence,300 shield on my void walk build just use the Brave set.
I see ajax drop all the time now, so this explains it now. Also nuke ajax is pointless
I think they've nerved all the defence of the descendants for some reason... I see my characters have very low defence since the update...
They buff his 1 and 4. It can survive gluttony attack. Focus to reduce the cooldown if you still use body enhancement.
Ajax main and I'm very pissed..
@@robertcoble1445 maybe if enough people complain they'll get the message
@@gamin-sn8qjI got mine the day after the nerf and still not sure I will continue playing. With energy activator grind and now a nerf…Warframe is looking better.
I think Ajax was just made to revive bunny. I have 659 hours played and most as Ajax. So much time and effort feels waisted
@@jasonhooper9910 bruh literally 20 plus descendent and your complaining about a tank who got nerf and u wan go warframe...what kind of bs excuse lol
They need to get their tanking stuff in like. We need a taunt number 1. But number 2 they need to balance the characters man. Fully built Blair ult with skill mod hits for like 7 million and Hailey’s second ability that’s not even a ult hits for 15 million and up!
Esimo has a transcendent mod that taunts enemies...plus Ajax can draw aggro if you use your 2 to engage...they will be more interested in killing you after stun wears off than anyone else. Anyone that plays Ajax just needs to get comfortable with being in the face of the enemy and other players need to distance themselves to lower the chance of drawing aggro to themselves
@@exorouge238 doesn’t work on bosses… either one of those options.
100% agree. Definitely a nerf but I’ve done what I can to compensate. I will say you CAN justify maxing resist now because your shield mods aren’t worth it anymore anyway. Get rid of that and I overwhelming hp. I rebuilt my BE Ajax such that he finally feels good again (not AS good) and a true colossi tank build. You can see how tanky he still with barriers vs. Gluttony. I still prefer BE overall than Life Barrier. If they would just remove the stupid penalties on it then there’d be no question to me anymore.
m.th-cam.com/video/s9x0lI6qOk0/w-d-xo.html
And then if you just want to enjoy using him…yes…void walker build can definitely farm quite well and still be very tanky and enough for all the other non colossus bosses in game.
m.th-cam.com/video/RJzf7kkwaRE/w-d-xo.html
Also yeah you HAVE to change your elemental resists on the BE build depending on the colossus which also means you’re forced to spend a ton more catalysts and grinding time. Thank you Nexon!
If you use the gold resist mods (which you should for the harder bosses) its only 1 A polarity but they are expensive to max out
@@epitome278 I use all 3 with resist on component too. Resist stacks multiplicatively the same as defense and hp so you need all of them to get the insanely higher 23k+ numbers
@foxnfire6388 the gold ones are a % so the more dmg a boss does the more the gold ones will work, and again all elements are only 1 polarity which is nice. Just know that bosses don't only do elemental dmg with their attacks , it's kind of like how our weapons do elemental dmg where they have their flat damage and a % of elemental
@@epitome278 yes I know I’m saying I use all 3 RELATED resist mods. Also ONLY the golds have the same polarity. The blue and purple all have different ones forcing you to grind way more to have different settings for each
I actually don't have elemental resist mods on my Ajax...I only have that stuff on external components and I survive just fine
According to this one TH-camr, they did not nerfed Ajax, we just need to learn how to use his kit. 🤦♂️
yep... Ajax is NOT a tank.. never was never will. he has no agro skills. there is no trinity here. but yeah he was never a tank to begin with
@novaDF6871
Agreed never was a tank to begin with, having a lot of defense, shield, and HP with no way to pull aggro away from team is not a tank. It's a damage sponge.
Ajax is a tank...tanks survive heavy damage as they should and guess what he does that...I get plenty of the aggro in groups because I try to be the closest to the boss so it will most likely target me first. If you want a taunt use Esimo,he has a augment for that
@novaDF6871 have you considered being on the front lines with Ajax? Jump into enemies with his two and boom they mainly want to kill you now after stun wears off. Instead of asking for a taunt just get in the face of enemies. As Ajax you want to be the first to engage enemies or use his two and three to stun and take aggro off of someone else
@@exorouge238 oh ofcourse! Only if the game was designed for him to be a tank but right now that is not the case sadly. So i play the the game is MEANT tp be play with kit he has. Until them it is what it is. Go talk to the devs not me lmao. There is not trinity here nor any content that demands it at this time. Otherwise yujin,ajax and 2 other dps type would be the standard group at all times. Right now is hogh dps and kill things fast thats about it. People like to see big numbers apparently. I also never said i wanted a taunt.
They did this to balance the resistance because people arent investing on resistance ....also the inversion also has a stat on resistance( 1 on the 5 ) so they want to make resistance as important as health and defence...so this balance is vital...so ajax isnt for damaging tbh his a tank and if he isnt investing into resistance then he shouldnt be tanking tbh.. also they made some of his transcendence better right ? Like he can make it into a spell type perma jump build with void charge ( will be like valby x 2 per skill)....also if people are interested into a bossing build then maybe focus on other descendent instead of a tank
Bull crap dude. Although I rebalanced my build to now add resist indeed, I also had resist before the nerf on similar BE build anyway.
Also resist is ONLY good on the last 3 colossi. You can still face tank all other bosses without.
And even if you MAX resist right NOW AND Life Barrier…Gluttony will STILL break your barriers fast.
I did my best to rebuild. I still like Ajax. But screw the nerf. This was absolutely a nerf. There was a literally a 200k shield build on Ajax too prior to this lol…
Then people obsessed with “muh balance! You must grind again too!” come and defense this bs.
@@lov.2.g and I'm sure they added a new resistance requirement to all descendants skills to keep things fair 😂
@@foxnfire6388 im just saying this so that the ajax main will do the job of playing defensive and not trying to damage when they are not well equip...like u dont want a lepic or gley to be tanking when there is a ajax there thinking he should be doing more damage then both of them in a gluttony fight ....instead of cooling the ajax thinks his enduring gonna carry the entire 4 team against a 150 million hp gluttony when lepic and gley does more then 100 million by themselve and hence no one does the cooling and they lose the fight ....oh i forgot they nerf ajax so he couldnt play defensive cause resistance isnt important in a tank
@@lov.2.g If Gluttony didn’t have the usual bs instant kill mechanics my Ajax NOW could solo him, let alone before when I could stack either 200k shields with instant recovery or 57k hp still with 50k defense and one chill resist module and chill resist on sensor.
What was the NEED for this nerf again? Ajax’s were already playing defensively in the fights because they already knew their sole damage was their gun lol.
And you don’t really need him even in Gluttony if you just have 3 dps builds with a Luna or Yujin and some coordination. I would I say a good tank/barrier Ajax build like mine definitely still helps though.
But Ajax isn’t even needed everywhere else in game. IMO, they should remove the bs penalties now with body enhancement, change the puny “buffs” with his enhanced skills like, instead, remove orbit barrier’s reflect but make it invulnerable so Ajax finally has a consistently reliable defense skill against any boss regardless of their damage, and finally make him draw aggro.
THEN he’d be very useful against the hardest bosses in game and almost necessity. Also change the buff for hyper cube to provide a high hp/defense within to justify dps builds staying inside to focus their attacks. Ajax could then just pop the sphere and leave it for teammates while he tanks the boss with aggro and a stronger barrier
@@foxnfire6388 u know why ? Cuz thats how a game implement support ....if everyone does damage then we dont need support...so if u play ur role ,game will be easier..there are way too many descendent for you then to just say "oh this tanky descendent being nerf so i can go offensive on him because i need slot to put for resistance " when in fact u have other descendent to do offence and you can just switch to other descendent if u need to go offence...as for ur stats allocation...that is why they nerf him....if they dont , might as well we dont have resistance ...if the tank doesnt allocate into resistance , do you think offensive descendent will do so ? Think about it
I mean no disrespect to anyone. but Ajax we never a tank and was never meant to be. he DOES have the highest hp - defense out of all Descendants.. but those high HP meme builds made the devs change him to a spread type character.. Ajax does not have AGRO skills so i dont see the stigma that Ajax is supposed to be a "tank" he is a support and a great mobber. im an Ajax main and im doing just fine with gluttony and all content.. he is actually pretty strong now.. HP build is for BAD players.. i support the team in gluttony AND do decent weapon damage with enduring legacy. so please dont get mad at me im just stating that other youtubers led most of yall to believe the MEME high HP tank was a thing. Ajax is one of the strongest and funnest descendants out right now. if you need more understanding of ajax go see FERVOR GAMING youtuber he will lay it down for you.. i feel for most of you for investing on RUSHED builds before season one of Ajax. you are not meant to be picking up bunnies in colossi fights some bunnies should be there to begin with (for some colossi) like i said dont get get mad at me go check the other guy i mentioned and then see what you think.
If you jump into a group of enemies you normally become the new target for aggro so actually he does have aggro capabilities you just have to you know get in the face of the enemies