Willie Jackson: Co-governance is a chance at equity for Māori | Q+A 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- Māori Development Minister Willie Jackson rebuffed David Seymour’s concerns that co-governance is undemocratic.
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co governance is racist, because it is based on race, you cannot argue your way round it, no matter how good your intentions, dead simple, one person one vote.
As the Communist addage goes. Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. In this case the everyone is not Maori and the more equal than others is Maori, what Racist crap!!!!
@@wairoa55 hahaha karma is certainly a bitch aye laurie a contract was signed between crown n maori only...i know its hard when things dont go your way lpl thats life laurie
@@chill2363 shut up baldhead, Aotearoa is ours you clown, we can always force you back to Europe you overstayer. Dam immigrant.
@@chill2363 What about all the people from various nations with neither a British, nor a Maori ancestor? A vast number of Kiwis, be it Dutch, Indian, Chinese, Samoan, Irish, American, French, South African, whose ancestors that have NOT been party to the Treaty, but who have immensely contributed to making this nation into what it is today. What is their status if it is all about race in your opinion?
Absolutely right and disgusting behavior from Maori
When somebody says 'You have nothing to fear' 100x in an interview - you know you have A LOT to fear.
Dam right
Vote ACT next election
Too true! Even more of a worry is Willie the Wonker is involved - the man is a loose cannon and totally untrustworthy.
Moari had to fear alot.and still do today
@ronniethompson7464 yeah they don't like the truth coming out. An fear the gravy train coming to a screaming hault
Willie should drop the "Pakeha", it treats all "white" people as one people, which is simply a racist generalisation of a term
You want to be called white people and not Pakeha, the way history scripted the term was British colonist. Racism is a Class distinction grow up people.
@@ranierahui8983 Racism is a distinction based on race. The way Jackson uses the term 'Pakeha' is the way most interpret it - everyone else other than Maori, or as is the case these days, those part Maori who identify as or claim to be Maori, but genetically are often substantially more some other race. Most local Pakeha are New Zealanders and prefer to be called that.
@@ranierahui8983 I’m a New Zealander. The name given to someone who was born here. The colour of my skin is irrelevant.
@@pauls9322 no the word pakeha means a person from another area. A pa is a place. Ha is a breath and ke is an action. It is not a slur. It may feel like a slur because Pakeha have benifiited from oppressing Maori and this angers Maori
@@utubermax pakeha is a Maori word. You may prefer we use a Dutch term to discribe non Maori such as New Zealanders but you are not entitled to control our use of our language.
“Democracy has changed Jack…” that’s all you need to know about his government.
He is right. It changed with MMP. Where have you been, on Mars??
MMP is consensus democracy, where groups of people vote their say, based on what parties offer in their policies.
Not one of our resources are run with consensus democracy in mind. It is run with one person one vote, and the majority, no matter the issues.
One Person, One Vote was FPP. That ended because both Labour and National went stupid in 96, and only 5% of the population liked the candidates, and the other 95% refused to vote because they all hated them.
All animals are equal but (democracy has changed and now) some animals are more equal than others.
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He did not rebuff, he railroaded this interview and came across insincere....as much as his undemocratic position on three waters truly is.....I say this as a NZ born Maori with concerns over the way the governance of NZ has perpetuated an over indulgence of rhetoric based around the Treaty.
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Race Based policies being pushed by the NZ govt are based on the false belief that " Maori" are disadvantaged. They are not, in fact they disproportionately have more rights than other NZ'rs. Jackson and his ilk simply foster racial division and have learned that playing the "victim" serves them well. If Maori are not doing well then they themselves have to do better. That means taking responsibility for your own progress in life. Jackson and people like him are the reason I now live in Australia.
Same here Glenn. Moved here last June as saw the writing on the wall LOUD & clear…. Will never return & life here is fantastic without all this Willie Jackson-type racist, separatist & divisive BS.
When you free yourself from victim mentality, you can achieve wondrous things. Just look at the Holocaust survivors. Read Frank Lowy’s story.
Good riddance too both of ya enjoy no water snakes n spiders for the rest of ya lives... Australia can have you...be alot more comming too yay
They do have quite a few benefits. For one if you are Maori you get health benefits from your doctor compared to Pakeha. They benefit at University, making it easier for Maori to pass. Now I'm fine with this, but don't tell me Maori are disadvantaged. The issue is a cultural one, rather than a racial issue.
Well shit ain't gonna change. Aotearoa is for Tangata Whenua, Europe is for you pakeha, pakeha have no culture or heritage here in Aotearoa lol. You lot don't have any country to identify with or to call your own. You pakeha have no place to call home lol. Sad to be yous. Lol.
I'm so ashamed of being a Maori in this day and age. We need to stop the divide, and become kiwis again. I AM A KIWI FIRST, and I hope we come together as Kiwis instead of "Tanga Te Whenua " vs Other. No racism Involved.
Your a good maori but sadly can't say this for most maoris who i believe are racist to the core and whom will never let us grow in to a proper economically driven safe country, im sorry for my words but i seen one to many ram raids by the community that does nothing yet gets paid and still wants to steal other people's belongings.
I feel for you Tipene. You are all tarred with the same brush driven by the separatist agenda of this government. Thousands of Maori people want to live happy lives in the 21st century. They want what everyone else has. Homes, jobs, education, health, etc. and self determination - not handouts and being left lying at the bottom of the pile. We all deserve the right to a decent way of life regardless of our ethnic background.
Your a troll clown lol.
Long live Wairoa!!!
@@Chaudhry_Ghumman_Jutt WTF!!! You laying all the blame at Maori for you being a racist, not to mention your economic situation, ram raids and stealing. C’mon tell us what you really thinking dumbarse
Willie Jackson thinks equity means - the collective Maori has equal rights as the collective 'rest of NZ' - it is a big con.
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New Zealanders: Why are we so poor and Australia is so rich?
Also New Zealanders: Let’s spend billions of taxpayer dollars compensating Maori for events that unfolded 180 years ago, and also spend hundreds of millions on promoting Maori culture at the expense of our roads, healthcare system, education system and businesses.
Australia is going through an economic crisis as well
@@aimee-leighkelly2906 Nothing like NZ.
@@jjacobs260 Australia’s inflation rate is only 1.8% lower than ours. The main driver for our 6.9% inflation rate is largely due to housing and rising prices for rentals as well as more demand of our products. Māori have nothing to do with this stop blaming everything on us
Agree. All the money thrown at them makes no difference. Elite Maori benefit. Poor Maori are no better off.
J Jacob's you are so right. NZ has had weak leaders who don't stand their ground and say enough is enough.
I wasn't worried about co-governance until I saw this
Be very afraid Joel... its racism in its simplest form...
Especially if we don’t get to vote it in or
Wake up
General role vs moari role??
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Not all persons with Maori ancestry buy into this disadvantaged victim line that requires special governance privileges. Some of us consider it patronizing and paternalistic.
It is how they keep a sickening number of Maori down, so they can use their terrible position as weapons to scrape more money from taxpayers. Money they will never see or benefit from. It reminds me of the tactics in the Lynvh paper (where lynching got its name from for those who do not know). The only institutional powers that work to keep Maori down are the greedy iwi elite, not the NZ gov. All this creates the thought in a child's mind "Why should i even care or try", that is the snare.
Better interview by jack but he let Willy off the hook by not demanding answers - the definition of democracy throughout the world has not and will not ever change. It is equal suffrage for everyone regardless of their race, religion etc and cogovernance where 17% of a population has equal governance as the remaining 83% is not and will never be democratic. Willie has to accept that nz today is made up of people of many ethnicities and backgrounds and willie needs to accept they have just as much right in deciding the future of nz as Māori do. If he or anyone can’t accept that they should move somewhere like Saudi Arabia or the Middle East where arrangements like the one he is proposing are acceptable.
Mate trust me when i say people in saudia and middle east havsme got it alot better than us, they don't get ram raided or shot , we are fast turning into an underworld playground we are just to blinded to see where the water has come up to.
The thing is, all of those immigrants are saying the Treaty should be more balanced between both sides of it.
They are an important perspective, because they come from nations that are worse than ours to varying degrees, because they have nothing like this Treaty in existence.
It is them saying, NZ would be far better off, and more adaptable to global changes if Maori had equal say in decisions as the Treaty intended.
24% of the MPs are Maoris. They are over represented and I don't have a problem with it because people exercised their democratic right and elected suitable people. Maori can stand up on their own legs and don't need special rules and laws.
@@bobbimanuel7743Maori are far better off under common law and capitalism than they were under their own tikanga system before the colonists arrived. Perhaps they should be grateful that they’ve been spared from cannibalism and depravation and are able to participate in the most equitable systems currently known to man. The truth is, not all systems are equally fair and future proof. Few people cry that communism has largely died out because it was an inferior system.
@@bobbimanuel7743 you are not asking for equity, you are asking for special rights, and like land, rights are finite, what you ask for has to be taken off someone else
Negative - their is a quota system for Maori seats and also a government agenda
labour fulfils this, National does not.
Over represented in politics
What a joke. In terms of 3 Waters, Jackson claims it gives "Maori and opportunity to contribute." What he really means is that it gives Maroi (a very small elite selection of Maori) an opportunity to extract money from the rest of the population. To enjoy unelected paid seats at the table; the ability to charge levies/royalties for their exclusive use/benefit; and, to appoint relatives and friends to related jobs and contracts - as is already the case and it's not even yet up and running. A rort and corruption pure and simple.
Current crop of NZ politicians are terrible; all bluff and bluster, spin and avoiding questions. Not fit for govt.
Nicola Wills on Q&A didn't give Simon Bennett a chance to speak either.
They are not just terrible, they are dangerous
This is what happens when you select politicians based on diversity and not competency ......and Im maori
@@k1m625 I agree
@@chrismckellar9350 Two wrongs do not make a right.
No matter how much you give Maori, it’s never enough. Now they have to be over represented to make things “Fair”.
Typical overstayer fark of back to Europe before we force you out.
@@chastautoko7177 ahh I see, you don’t actually care about the treaty. Why should it be upheld then if all you care about is 100% control?
@@npryde09 that's pakeha that wants full control you clown, your lot have no culture or heritage here to control the indigenous. 3 waters has been passed co governance is on its way. First mission, get rid of people like you ungrateful overstaying pakeha.
@@chastautoko7177 so tell me then, what will it take to be equals or are you not interested in that?
@@npryde09 shit, thats simple, government needs to return everything that was stolen and confiscated, and return our customary rights. Either that, or we go to war. Just remember, gangs outnumber police by quite abit, plus our defense force is mostly Polynesian, then you have our SAS troops, once again is mostly Maori. Then you have the average Maori like myself that are already street wise, and can rumble with the best. Easy choice.
Considering Labour went to the last election without spilling a word about He Puapua I think there is alot to fear. I have no trust they will present this openly or honestly.
One only needs to look at the Rotorua District Council Bill which will give voters on the Maori roll 2.5 times more voting power than those on the general roll. Yes there is much to fear for non-Maori New Zealanders.
racism is racism, pure and simple, one person one vote is only way
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Would like to see Willie Jackson and David Seymour go head to head...Willie evaded and got off the hook on the democracy issue.
yup ther is no justification 4 this co governance model
David Seymour would absolutely destroy Jackson in a fair debate.
My moneys on Seymour
It would be entertaining. Willie cannot debate. His arguments have no base, what does he mean when he says "you have nothing to fear"? Meaningless! David Seymour would have him for breakfast.
MMP is democratic politics where each voters intentions are reflected more equitably. Co-governance is a minority gaining inequitable share of power based on a confusing documents agreed with a few people two centuries ago. Maori is [justifably because they are trying to take all they can] simply trying it on. Trying to use anything they can to justify it. They have now reached the 'dont push any further point'. They risk Pakeha, Asian, Pacific Islanders, saying no and actually we did not agree with all this other stuff you grabbed.
They change the Treaty of Waitangi at will. IT has no meaning in this day and age.
It is skewed because of the Maori seats
You have nothing to fear. We are changing the rules of democracy. Lets double up the goverment and the expenses so Maori can have 50% of the control with 30% of the votes.
Democracy not for the majority of New Zealand.
Willie Jackson's radical version apartheid v2.0?
Co governance benefits Māori at the expense of democracy and all other New Zealanders and immigrants of all races.
Co-governance is used today in the Te Urewera Forest between Tuhoe & the Crown there are other examples in NZ like the Rotorua lakes etc...
And what a disaster that has been, infustructure neglected to as disgusting state.
@@stephenlennon7369 and who can vote out the people who "run" it? The answer is that unless voters can exercise their ability to throw incompetents out you slide into dictatorship
@@margaretsowry861 in addition tuhoe have refused access to anyone other than Māori and threatened violence if they don’t leave. The taxpayer of nz is paying tuhoe for a supposed co-governance arrangement yet tuhoe seem to think this means they own it outright. I assume they will cite a English v Māori translation issue down the track
@@philipmairs3831 got proof of this Tuhoe threatening anyone coming up to our area? full of it dude
Consensus democracy?? You mean Ethno dictatorship. The reason why we don’t want unelected people in governance is because the focus becomes power and leads to inevitable corruption Willie. Leaders need be accountable and removable.
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Maybe Willie Jackson would've answered the actual question if his education was better. lol
The clown Silly jackson is a CLOWN
One person one vote is no longer a given, democracy hasn't changed, how can it, it is what it is.
Is co-governance not oppressive to the average New Zealander?
Are these policies unjust and oppressive?
If the majority of us are not interested or unwilling to learn te reo, is it not oppressive if people with political power expect, insist or even enforce 80% of the population to engage in a language, spoken by less than 8% of us?
Oppression is malicious or unjust treatment or exercise of power, often under the guise of governmental authority or cultural opprobrium. Oppression may be overt or covert, (or both) depending on how it is practiced.
This is very concerning
Why exactly do people with Maori not also acknowledge their European ancestry too? I guess because you can get special privilege's by being 'Maori' and the media has so demonized Europeans.
Article 3 - "Ka tiakina e te Kuini o Ingarani nga tangata maori katoa o Nu Tirani ka tukua ki a ratou nga tikanga katoa rite tahi ki ana mea ki nga tangata o Ingarani." This article is more about 'equality before the law' than 'equity' per se. What's the justification for reading this article as saying it's the Crown's obligation to ensure everyone's so-called 'outcomes' are equal?
That is it. It has not been equal, and never has been. It has been for Pakeha the entire time. Hence, this issue.
The Chiefs ceded sovereignty and got to become English subjects with all the rights that go with it, also protection by the Crown for any French who wanted (and were underway) to come to get revenge and take NZ the old fashioned way, total wipeout of Maori. The Chiefs knew this, hence their petition to the king at the time for protection. The story only gets muddy when johny come lately's start changing the accepted (both sides) facts and history.
@@HTDSNZ They did not. The Chiefs gave settlers the permission to come live here, and all they asked for in return was control of their own affairs and equal status with the settlers own rights, and the Monarch to control it all. Articles 1, 2 and 3 are very clear on those points.
Which means the Chiefs should have been given the right to have say on all decisions once Parliament overstepped the Treaty and breached any article as punishment.
Oversteps which happened basically within two days of signing, and only now has the push backs begun to address the crimes committed.
Equity sounds like equality, except it has nothing to do with equality.
No shit. Equity is better than equality, and justice a step better again. It turns out some people just get a shit hand dealt to them, and decent people recognise that. If it’s car parks closer to super markets for people in wheelchairs, special needs classes in school. Treating people equally is sometimes not enough.
@@Steve-bi2ic Equity is a Marxist trick.
@Steve
Omg did you actually just compare yourself to disable people!
@@southpacific222 1. What if I am disabled? 2. Is there something you think is wrong with being disabled? 3. We support disabled people with equitable or just support, not equal support as others. This is an example of how society has and does give some members of society more support than others, i.e. unequal support, i.e equitable or just support, based on their need.
@Steve
Of course disabled people get support they're disabled! Wth? Can't believe your even considering using this as an argument...its just shameful
I thought the treaty says treat all New Zealanders as equal
The 3rd article of the treaty says Equity - not equality
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 It says neither of them words bro. Go read the Maori version, the one the Chiefs signed.
Its say what ever you want it to say 😂
Racialism is alive and well in New Zealand. Our hardworking pioneers of many different cultures and skills created this country and the lifestyle we have today. This once prosperous country of ours is fast being drained by a minority who think it is their right to 'rob Peter to pay Paul'. We should all be working together as ONE people. - not as a divided nation looking to the government to score all they can for 'their own people'. Justice and equality will never reign. People are elected for government positions based on their knowledge, experience and skill - not on their nationality!
“Seymour’ s position is gobbledygook”
Classic Willie Jackson projection.
Well that rich coming from Willie and his talkback days.
@@sobrien2147 He actually said "goggle-de-gok" so he can't even get that right!
MMP is fundamentally different from Co-governance because the former progresses the concept of democracy, while the later is just blowing wind.
as long as parliament doesn't become co governance orientated, if it does we simply have communism in another guise.
Where is the clause in the Treaty of Waitangi that mentions anything about co-governance?
Aoteroa & New Zealands Public enemy Number 1. Willy Jackson
Too right he is he needs to be put very slowly thru a wood chipper with the rest of them
@@rickdodson3143 HAhahah lol and film it?
Most Pakeha are Aotearoa public enemy no 1. Bunch of foreign overstayers.
@@chastautoko7177 Sorry bro, we here to stay. Maori should go to Perth, they have a better life over there. No handouts.
@@avpr1574 oh well, get beat up and chased out then lol. No way in hell you can do anything about that lol.
Equity is the new word for discrimination
Democracy has changed... how's that.... democracy is democracy.. equal rights for all one vote for all... one country!
Nothing to fear? Really? That's incredibly deceptive 😢
he keeps trying to drive home this "theres nothing to be scared of" line. Well yes there is, there is a fear that i will no longer have a say in who is elected to make decisions on my behalf.
co governance 17% having 50% of the say
Willie, definition...... A system of keeping groups of people separate and treating them different especially when this results in disadvantage for one group is called "Apartheid".. Really Silly Jackson..
"democracy has changed, Jack"......sorry Mr Jackson but you are totally wrong. Democracy has not changed. Perhaps your perception of it has and you need to seek help for that.
Tyranny of the majority? Did he actually just say that? How in the hell is being elected based on winning an election "tyranny"???
Upoke is the term for Maori slaves. They were about 80% of the population prior to the Europeans. They were the primary source of protein in what was an horrific degeneration of Polynesian society into rampart structural cannibalism - a period of horror that lasted some 500 years until they were rescued by the European. The Maori had come with the original Polynesian caste structure of royals and bonded commoners after being outcast and set adrift on rafts to end up stranded in NZ.
Within a recorded period of about 8 generations this then degenerated into 9 different language groups ( no common language) and a horrific two tier ethnically and racially based caste structure.
- Ariki / from the original royal elite - these were documented and painted or drawn as lighter to white skinned, wiry, smaller boned, fine featured, thin nose, thin lipped, straight hair, anxious, aggressive cannibalistic ruling class. Upoke / from the original bonded commoners (such bonding or serfdom broke down in NZ as land was unconstrained) and slaves. Upoke or poke was used in conjunction with Kuku or Kiko ie a Upoke Kiko was slave flesh - or else poke singular or pokes group).
The Upoke slaves were the 'wealth' of the Maoris and raiding and capturing other clans and tribes Upoke was the primary industry of the Maoris. These Upoke were dark skinned, larger limbed, thick lipped, flat nosed, curly haired, easily fattened, low IQ and sedentary. The settlements of the Maoris (Pa's) were in valley passes where they could anticipate attack from the sea and run into the bush behind. A Pa's very design is as a cannibal storage camp of humans as slave eating flesh with perimeters controlling access and confining the slaves. Have a good look at the original designs of the Pa's and what their real purpose was. Upoke females were normally killed and eaten at birth but on arrival of the Europeans -( trade was for Upoke boiled male heads carved with European arabesques eg 'Maori Moko designs - all European) but with a shortage of that & the trade being policed - the Maori Ariki turned to selling young Upoke slave girls to the sailors and settlers for guns. Often as records show, the Ariki would line up the young Upoke on the beach or field and then tell the Europeans they would all be slaughtered and eaten unless the European met their demands. As such the European settlements were flooded with Upoke slaves, mainly young females being the demand. The Europeans bred with these slave females gave immunity to the mixed race offspring disease such as measles & flu that full blood Maori did not have. Again this is subject to much record (1880 onwards) about the 'revitalization' and out breeding of the Maori being their only path of survival / there was much concern the Maori would become extinct so all Europeans & Maori were much focused on such outbreeding to ensure that a trace of Maori may exist in the future.By 1903 there were no Ariki left and only 14 very old full blood Upoke. The last full blood died in 1944 - as reported by the minister of Maori affairs much later to the NZ parliament. The marked differences between the Ariki and the slave caste were much commented on, discussed and captured in paintings & portraits. Almost all Maori today would be offspring of Europeans & Upoke slaves - the filters of inter Maori fratricide between the Ariki clans & disease acted as an filter to remove both Ariki and full bloods.
"A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon' This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner
You seem well read in this area. I have noted and will get this book by Paul Moon. Thanks
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Have a reflecting, humble and pleasant Anzac Day...
Willi you are talking rubbish. Democracy has not changed. You are trying it on. We can see thru you. So on your bike.
Inequity to achieve equity? The definition of equity "fair and impartial". What is fair an impartial about special privileges for people based on their racial makeup? This is by definition inequity. I cant' think of any other country that is so blatantly glorifying a race and promoting racial separatism.
Good questioning by Jack.
Willie is all smoke and mirrors.Democracy not as we know it.
Dodgy , Dodgy , Dodgy . Willy Wonker
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What is the difference between equality and equity?
Being fair (equity) and equal (Equality) the same. Maori are not the same but are equal in value. One person one vote. Maori has a different "need" to that of another entity, Indians. Nothing to do with the Treaty.
"US and them" based on a percentage of irrelevant ancestry when everyone needs to be a Kiwi first. Not Pakeha or Maori. Why discriminate? Because some sees a free meal.
Look up the word democracy Willie.... "rule by the people"". We the people of NZ will decide our future, not politicians
fools like Jackson need to go. We fools should not be paying him. Goodbye willie.
And I'm sick of the likes of Willie that keep saying Nz is Maori & Pakeha. What racist crap!
There is every ethnicity under the sun in Nz and we're ALL New Zealanders!!!
Acknowledging the existence of races is not racist. Ethnicity is not race. We are indeed all New Zealanders and being so does not preclude also being Māori or Pakeha, or any other race.
@@Steve-bi2ic But Maori are not a race, they are an ethnic group. Their race would be Pacific Islander or Polynesian. The point South Pacific was trying to make was that the media and politics are too obsessed with Maori/White viewpoints. Personally I'm sick of hearing about it, that's why I only watch foreign news channels now.
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls I haven’t heard of any issues with burying your head in the sand.. nor are there idioms specifically to acknowledge that might be a bad idea I’m aware of. Also you’re replying to a comment on nz news.. so demonstrating you doing the reverse of what you’ve just said you do. All that aside, yes, Māori are an ethnicity, but predominantly Polynesian, while people identified/who identify as Pakeha (which is probably debatably either a race or an ethnicity), or European NZ’er are predominantly Caucasian. Using ethnic groups as Willie did could be considered either not racist as they are ethnic groups. Or not racist as they are just identification of ethnicities with predominant races. Either way South Pacific is not calling out racism.
If its a "partnership" they're after why are Maori in this country given more privilege than other people. And if the dialogue is happening in 2022 why are they still talking the the context of Maori and Pakeha? Immigrants have been unaccounted for for decades and we're the ones paying taxes and raising the economy only to be treated like 3rd class citizens.
Agree fully. My parents immigrated from India (I was born here, but am Indian racially (this is obviously a fake name)). I work 70 hrs a week in a highly skilled profession. People like me just get the F*ck on with it, work hard, pay our taxes, raise our kids responsibly and with no govt support and imbue them with an ethic to work hard and stand on their own two feet. And we have neither recognition by nor representation in govt, or in these Maori vs Pakeha debates.\
@@JohnSmith-pm6zb With around 300k Indian New Zealanders, I am sure many rightfully receive additional government support. The last New Zealand parliament had three Indian New Zealanders and the current has one Indian New Zealand representative. The Indian people did not sign a founding treaty with the New Zealand government, so there is not an equivalence there.
@@Steve-bi2ic the Indian community in nz have just as much right in deciding the future of nz as anyone else and to say otherwise is both racist and a breach of their human rights regardless of any treaty that was was signed. It is also wrong to justify any reduction in anyones human rights by citing a law or treaty - eg South African apartheid was law but that didn’t make it right. All laws/treaties can be changed by consensus and unfortunately the treaty of waitangi does not address the needs of modern nz simply based on the fact there are now many different people here. The only answer to ensure everyone is treated equally is for the treaty to go and a constitution created which represents all of nz
@@philipmairs3831 Absolutely We need a Constitution instead of a badly written ambiguous out of date "tiriti not suited to the 21st Century and not worth the false reverence accorded to it
Illiterates the problem of dividing country by race and religion. There should be only one community; kiwi
Who says there should be 'equity'? There should be equality of opportunity, not equity of outcome. Seeventeen percent of the population are NOT entitled to fifty percent of the say in anything. This guy is completely full of crap.
It's all about one making the call for everyone. Who's been running the country .for many years.
How is Co governance democracy. This is a joke. Three waters is putting Maori in seats without being voted in. Those seats are given to Maori.
I'm afraid willy's interpretation of equity and representation is way off, Maori have had the same equitable rights as every new Zealander for a very long time, except Maori have had extra cash injections along the way, , willy and most new zealanders need to learn the correct history leading up to and including all history with the treaty , not just what they think it should be,
You're so right. The extra hand-outs have disappeared into the ether. Where have they all gone - into whose pockets? Certainly not for the good of every-day Maori. Organisers should be ashamed of the decades of misused aid. Instead, they keep blaming colonisation - an easy target - things that happened a very long time ago that none of us are responsible for. Its a method designed to bleed us over and over again. Look at the past 50 years and count up the extra help that Maori have had. Some have benefitted and are well educated and hold positions of authority. Many of these same people are biting the hand that fed them and are trying to drive a wedge between the Caucasians and Polynesians in NZ. Instead of using their skills to benefit still more of their people. In New Zealand today, we have many diverse ethnic groups. We can become one united country - everyone with equal rights and opportunities. No one group is more deserving than another. Keep your traditions and move on. Drop the perpetual whinging about past wrongs. All countries have past wrongs.
dangerous man old willie bonkers
Just a mistake Jack, we often introduce discriminatory ideas until the AG tells us to stop! But don’t worry we’ll keep on trying
we arent fooled anymore willie, co governance is gone,1840 maori gave up soveriegnty to the british crown, no partnership period
It it's all about diversity what about the huge Chinese, Indian population much bigger than Maori?
he talks about minorities but it really is only moari minority
Co Maori privileged 😜
Co-governance for NZ = incoming Zimbabwe.
People will promised trillions of dollars...
Co-governance is crap.
Willie Jackson keeps saying NZ’ers have nothing to fear, we have everything to fear! People appointed in to positions and Authority based on their DNA is explicitly undemocratic! And do these people appointed even have the expertise and intelligence to be there in the first place. Appointments should also be based on merit and ones skills. Stop the spin Willie!!
Your argument is flawed and lacks context. The terrany of the Majority hasn't brought equality or equity for Maori and Meritocracy isn't an argument that addresses the historical context that missing from your rant 🙄
@@stephenlennon7369 Maybe you need to look up rant in the dictionary. Probably too busy studying the lunacy of CRT.
@@tctc8578 HA HA!
Willie Jackson is such a racist .
We need to start standing up to all this apartheid they're trying to force on us
@@stephenlennon7369 Its equality (fairness) that counts in the end. There is always greed on both sides
Ive got kids that've have different dna hows that guna work
I must say Willie is right. The treaty says equal rights for Pakeha and Maori. That is not happening in many areas and we all know that. Maori are the indigenous people of this country let's not forget that and yet I don't recall a maori ever becoming Prime Minister. We seem to always have a Pakeha. However in saying that the Party Willie represents Labour has an Islander Deputy what's that all about oh that's right she friends with Hipkins;. If anything a Maori should be in that position. Willie would be an ideal choice.
Who's causing this divide???
What have you done Willie Jackson The Treaty should be for Maori only nobody else.
Can’t wait until the end of ‘23. I sense something special will happen.
Vote ACT in 2023 if you value Democracy
No!! DemocacyNZ
rather than use a word why not explain its meaning EQUITY is brutal but its just enforcing agreements EQUITY is codified in statute Anytime a person wants EQUITY they are attempting to move outta Maritime As they are captured by their anticident agreements
Don't play the race game please its getting old work hard love your kids today its kids having kids parents are not being parents and thats the biggest problem today respect 👍
Nothing wrong with David Seymour he’s for Maori only for this treaty. Willie not into this one vote he wants it to go back the old way where you have a minster’s in power.
It’s racism.
Why would you have Maori. What do they bring to the table. Are they special, or super beings. I see Maori as just another group of kiwi people. We are all the same. Maoris are not special or over any other kiwi.
They think they are & the world owes them something
When I came to Canada I was visible minority even though I was born and raised in commonwealth nations
Few people asked me why did you come to Canada ? My answer always your flight is came little early .my flight is came little late. That’s a different between you & me
or I live in your land
What ever job available to me I took it .
The bros are taking over by stealth that is what it is.. Maori are NOT the first inhabitants. 🇳🇿
Please provide proof of your comment and its origin
Also it has no relevance to the contract your people drew up known as the treaty ....try sticking to it ...lol
@@chill2363 Chinese were here 350 years BEFORE Cook at Ruapuke Beach(Menzies) , Portuguese were here. Egyptian remains were found in NZ caves(ref Anatomist Grafton Elliot Smith) and they mining on the East Coast of Australia(Bodle) . Turehu, Waitaha and even Sinbad the Sailor was in Fiordland.. bro! 👍🇳🇿
@@allgood6760 whats that got to do with the contract (treaty) the crown and maori signed ...absolutely nothing ...you pricks wrote it up but cant stick to it...
@@chill2363 The Treaty is 200 years old and everyone has a different version to suit their own desires. It has no revevence today.
Willie Jackson is so wet and woke. What else!!!
So thick - duh!
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups coming from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits.
'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner
Oh my lord... racist 101 there....
It was divided when european turn up
Apartheid without a doubt.
Why does he (willy) think it's only about pakeha and maori has he forgotten about asians Indians etc
Like hell it is ! ! 😱👎👎😡
This shows a con man in full flight. All New Zealanders needed to see this
Why is it always about race! People make there own choices!
Study history!!
@@DW_Kiwi what's that got to do with people making bad choices 🤔
Willie, you probably are a big cheese at the local marae, but do you really understand the difference between equity and equality? No? I thought that would be the case. Go away.
Jake is being rude
The lead us in crime willy .
Maori have been marginalized in their own country for 180 years.
But all the money stopping at the top for a elite few is typical of the way it always happens.
What changed. Whites are like this too. So whats the answer??
forget Jackson this is the year he gets his comfy rug pulled out from underneath him .
Every time Willie Jackson opens his mouth he makes a fool of himself.Bluster and froth.
You again troll
Alot of 'Māori' on here... yeah right
What a crock
I’m a European immigrant minority, how does that work?
Guess it depends on the colour of your skin and your genes now. Sorry but second tier human is all we can do in NZ now.
Vote DemocacyNZ this election!! Party vote