This reads like one of those fake Aerith revival side quests from back in the day. 😂 Well done on figuring this all out! Hopefully something RTA Viable will come of it someday.
@@Black_Sephiroth Not nearly viable RTA yet because of the massive amount of world map movement to get through without an encounter, so stay tuned as to whether that problem can be solved lol
Technically has already been done by Ace! But through menuing after every frame of movement so the game "doesn't count the movement" which means no battle check. So it took Ace almost 5 hours to do it.
This is like... the modern day equivalent of a rain dance or something. It's pretty wild that this is actually doing something and not just superstition.
this is insane kuma.. this couldn't be RTA viable there's too many triangles to glitch but maybe a shorter path is possible. ace is trying to do it by menu buffering every frame.. i mean fuck it saves so much time that's probably still faster by a lot.
If the only requirement is no encounters, could I theoretically be able to do this on Switch? You'd probably have to create a new catagory for speedrunning in order to incorporate it. Although I don't even slightly doubt the FF7 community to figure out some genius RNG manipulation lol
Yes this can be done on the switch. The visual cue for one of the wall bonks is different so feel free to ask the FF7 speedrun discord if you plan to attempt this and have issues
It's just unreasonable to assume anyone's going to be able to pull this off on a legitimate speedrun without getting into any encounters all of the times you are running in the ocean.
This is crazy. However, this seems nearly impossible to pull off without getting an encounter and soft locking in real time unless I’m missing something?
@@KumaTV__ for PC version you can disable encounters on world map by doing this: save game (reset), start new game and die to the first battle as ex-soldier by lightning yourself until death. Then load save file. However, since Zolom is involved it might not work? Not sure if he enables encounters again. Just a neat trick.
Yes, but the last visual cue is slightly different as Switch version is the PC port. Feel free to join the FF7 speedrun discord in the description if you have any questions
@@wild_world5401 Yep! This is all totally legal, *however* we can't stress enough how extremely unlikely it is for this to be viable in a real console run without another significant breakthrough in routing. The reason is, if you get into an encounter at any time Cloud is out of bounds, you are softlocked. If Cloud is in-bounds, it resets the trick to the start. The odds of getting no encounters is extremely extremely low without figuring out a manipulation that hasn't been solved yet.
This is the kind of convoluted step we saw in mid 2000 on gamefaq forum on how to bring Aerith back, but now it's for real.
Or like in Pokemon games, do ridiculous stuff with that parked truck at that ship to get mew
This is the secret cow level from Diablo 1 all over again
It's time to say it again. FF7: the game that keeps on giving.
This reads like one of those fake Aerith revival side quests from back in the day. 😂 Well done on figuring this all out! Hopefully something RTA Viable will come of it someday.
Absolutely massive
Time for a new WR?
@@Black_Sephiroth Not nearly viable RTA yet because of the massive amount of world map movement to get through without an encounter, so stay tuned as to whether that problem can be solved lol
@@DashRetro any merit to trying this in combination with with materia smuggle and enemy away?
this is awesome to see you are already on top of this! lol
Cloud becomes Jesus and walks on Water!
Thanks for your hard work Kuma nad everyone involved
Moses
@@Black_Sephiroth moses was the one splitting the water.
This is crazy. Massive props to Ace, Kuma and Deano for all the work on this. You guys are actually insane. Now do it for console... :P
Technically has already been done by Ace! But through menuing after every frame of movement so the game "doesn't count the movement" which means no battle check. So it took Ace almost 5 hours to do it.
Me: skipping leg day
Kuma:
That is so many steps, i can only imagine what it took to find this out
This is like... the modern day equivalent of a rain dance or something. It's pretty wild that this is actually doing something and not just superstition.
This is insane, great find.😀
This is a great find! Thanks for the detailed video!
A beautiful contribution to science, thank you!
Nice.
Absolutely mental, holy moly.
babe wake up new ff7 skip just dropped
this is insane kuma.. this couldn't be RTA viable there's too many triangles to glitch but maybe a shorter path is possible. ace is trying to do it by menu buffering every frame.. i mean fuck it saves so much time that's probably still faster by a lot.
Great video, thank you
Crazy find!!! you the kuma!!!
BRUH XD this is insane, i love it (not that im ever gonna do any speedrun tricks but its like good to know anyways) also you are pretty cute :3
27 years later
Man with little bear man guy dude tells me how you can, in theory, skip 60 percent of disk 1.
Given how elaborate the set up is - who in the feck figured this out haha.
What do you guys have against disk one? Great disk.
whoa. mind blown lol 🤯
Good luck getting no encounters un the walk across the ocean
^you just have one frame^ seems like troll mew under the truck Oo crazy
If the only requirement is no encounters, could I theoretically be able to do this on Switch? You'd probably have to create a new catagory for speedrunning in order to incorporate it. Although I don't even slightly doubt the FF7 community to figure out some genius RNG manipulation lol
Yes this can be done on the switch. The visual cue for one of the wall bonks is different so feel free to ask the FF7 speedrun discord if you plan to attempt this and have issues
5:11 🤯🤯🤯
Couldnt you do this on ps1? I remember popping open the disc tray and walking to icicle inn from the chocobo farm
FF7 speedruns does not allow hardware manipulation like opening the disc tray to perform glitches. This is done purely within the game
But what if I encounter Emerald Weapon while on the ocean floor? Will that ruin my run?
Nice
Fuck yeah 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's cool but I am curious how the extreme under leveling will go not having a whole disk to get exp
It's just unreasonable to assume anyone's going to be able to pull this off on a legitimate speedrun without getting into any encounters all of the times you are running in the ocean.
Jenova Life, Schizo and Jenova Death will take awhile but at Carry Armor it isn't too bad.
@@cidhighwindgunz9833it will happen eventually
This is crazy. However, this seems nearly impossible to pull off without getting an encounter and soft locking in real time unless I’m missing something?
Original JP version and versions with boosters can currently already do this through glitches to disable world map encounters or by using boosters
@@KumaTV__ sure, I was more so speaking in the context of any% WR speed runs.
@@KumaTV__ for PC version you can disable encounters on world map by doing this: save game (reset), start new game and die to the first battle as ex-soldier by lightning yourself until death. Then load save file. However, since Zolom is involved it might not work? Not sure if he enables encounters again. Just a neat trick.
Holy shit
does this work on the switch version???
Yes, but the last visual cue is slightly different as Switch version is the PC port. Feel free to join the FF7 speedrun discord in the description if you have any questions
but when do I do the hokey pokey?
Ps4 ps5 has god mod put no encounters on to try this.
Let me know when you have a video of ps4/ps5. I want to speedrun with no encounters on world map!
Madness!!!! Is this even legal?
@@wild_world5401 Yep! This is all totally legal, *however* we can't stress enough how extremely unlikely it is for this to be viable in a real console run without another significant breakthrough in routing. The reason is, if you get into an encounter at any time Cloud is out of bounds, you are softlocked. If Cloud is in-bounds, it resets the trick to the start. The odds of getting no encounters is extremely extremely low without figuring out a manipulation that hasn't been solved yet.
legal