Horrible start to life for lenny, super tough upbringing, bullied and beat up since being 9 or 10yrs old, and people wonder why he was percieved by a few as a bully, its all he'd ever seen, so its all he ever knew, so glad the late Mike reed told him to try acting and he got to see the good side of life for a while, before his early passing. RIP The Guv'nor .. Brilliant book, musunderstood bloke
Very hard life. He was around 48 years old here. Looks much older. I think his biggest battle was always with himself, and that drained him and made him old before his time in the end.
It was much worse than that. He started getting beat up at 4 by his stepfather. At 6 his stepfather broke his arm.. By 10 he was already bullying other kids for candy money.
Brian Claridge bet you wish you'd kept it now with the money they are fetching mucker I sold mine in early 90's for 1400 and still get pissed off thinking about that
He was a great friend. Every single Wednesday night I would have dinner with him at Camden Palace where he worked. His son Jamie a brilliant lad. His wife a wonderful woman. I never met his daughter.
I used to run a restaurant back in the day for a guy who was on the door with Lenny McLean at the Camden Palace, the stories he told me would cause a mixture of laughter and crying 😂😂😂
I wonder if that line was in the script or did Lenny ad lib. I go for the latter, it's cool. I'm sure it was just after that, he muttered the immortal line....fackin' norven mankees. Up there with De Niro's....you lookin' at me?
It's crazy how this dude is such a character, so over the top, and yet so authentic that I remember the very moment I learned that Guy Ritchie had put some people in the film who had pasts dealing with legitimate British gangsters I thought, "Oh it's absolutely Barry, no question." Sure enough.
@@ThickNobBob I think he's saying he watched lockstock. And then later learnt that Guy casted some people who were real life villians and thought 'I bet it's the guy who played Barry!'.
I met Lenny just before this film was out but still in production, he was working on the door of whatever massive club it is I think near Leicester Square (I was down for a week with a mate on a work thing). My mate was a bodybuilder & through that we got chatting. He was waiting for LS to be his big break, saying how much he'd struggled over life and now he was ready "for some cream", he said that a couple of times. It was obviously he was the REAL DEAL back then, but it was only later I found out just how much.
That would have made a cute little scene. Rory goes to see Harry, Barry is outside, Rory puts on a big smile "Alright Bazza 😁" "Go on get in..." And Rory has to put his serious gangster face back on before he sees Harry. Implying that even Rory Breaker knows that Barry isn't to be messed with.
1:08 I love Jason Flemming but why do actors present that pseudo intellectual idea about themselves? When he describes how he came up with the idea of 'going the other way' and being the character the other characters took the piss out of No This came about because the person who wrote the script wrote it word for word that the other characters would be taking the piss out of you, this was not down to some spark of creative acting genius, the character literally could not be played any other way
lewis morrison a) that’s not intellectualism b) a lot of roles are still open to the actor’s interpretation c) there was plenty of improv in this movie. And in lots of others
lewis morrison - I agree mate. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. He looked like he was high as fuck giving that interview too. I found it boring.
I live in a small beach town in Oz and every Sunday Morning I have coffee with two English Blokes One was a doorman for the Kray's and the other was a sparing partner for Henry Cooper.. they are both bloody nice blokes.. and have some great stories about the old day's in London. neither of them like to hear swearing in front of women.. they are pretty old But I wouldn't want to take them on that's for sure..
Every Lenny McLean video there's a few hundred keyboard warriors claiming they would have had him and that their uncle's aunt's dog walker told them this story about how nasty a guy he was. He would have ripped all of your heads off.
I went to the same gym Slims he didn’t beat me up or hurt anyone when I was there. To be honest no one in the right mind would wind him up anyway. I spotted him sometimes for the bench press I wonder what would have happened if I dropped the weights. No chance of that though 😂😂😂 I think he repected me though because I was young not massive but I was strong.
@@lestrem11 I know all about the guy, I read Shaw's book as well as other books, I've read many many. videos etc etc, he was a trouble maker and used his big frame to bully rival firms/clubs. Roy Shaw got asked to sort him out by a guy who McLean was giving a real headache. Read 'Pretty Boy by Roy Shaw' for the full story and details about their fights, Roy Shaw won the first fight to give you an idea of how hard the man was.
They did a series of shoots outside my place just off of Old Street N London .. Saw Vinnie's car door scene from my kitchen window .. Hazy daze they were, exciting & fresh .. What a film, dare I say, a modern British classic
Yes, London was different back then; a lot different. It's not longer London is it. Consider back then, only violet bastards would stab someone for nothing. Now, grab any 5 "hoods - we know who they are", and I bet they are all carrying.
If Nick the Greeks story is true, you have to wonder, if someone is pissed as a fart and falls through some doors, what is the point of then breaking their jaw?
+gerpool7......thankfully my wife and I have [until very recently] never had any contact with criminals during our entire lives. However, having now been a victim of criminals I can assure you that they are utterly vile people, totally lacking in any form of remorse or concern for anyone but themselves. Why criminals are so revered, eulogised and near-worshipped is beyond me. It seems hardly a day goes by we are not bombarded with features, stories, books and films etc about yet another of these low-life scum. Yet we never ever hear about the victims of their ruthless and evil acts and the devastation they suffer. I know this from personal experience - but I would die if a film-maker, newspaper, magazine came and asked to hear mine and my wife's story!
This idiot has no idea what a dangerous job a doorman has. This drunk could be carrying a knife, gun, ammonia. Doing the job people put hands in their pockets you hit then immediately. Take no chances. Idiot remarks he wouldn't last a week on door or police.
i seen his book watched every footage of him i have simuler background i had a tuff upbrining started boxing at an early stage i was heart brocken when he passed away becouse i alwais wanted to meet him it was a big wish list to see him in person
I know a guy that worked the door with Lenny. He’s told me many a story. One I found interesting was he didn’t like freddie foreman. Lenny thought he was a nonce. Always sniffing around girls of 15/16.apparently one time Fred turned up with a 16 yo at the club and Lenny asked my friend to get him out or he’ll hurt him. He said he left quickly and quietly and there was no trouble.
Never really saw the film like that when I watched it. Think it's because they go on about how tight knit his crew is or what have you. More like, they was all doing fine then landed in the shit. Nice cloths, that swanky mod feel and all that. Like, get in where you fit in. Must have been a good thing they had someone there he knew he couldn't take out, other wise the whole thing might have made fuck all sense. Lenny Mclean would definitely give you a little fright.
@MC Madness at my work a old boy from London knew of him from London he used to run the doors and he said he would force them to pay tax or face a beating sounds a real lovely bloke
All these hard men so called always either on doors money collectors or wheel c lampers you no the real mind boggling jobs there all designed for the thick ones they all think there hard but underneath there nothing just a lot of bullies if you think your hard go and pick on the triads
Good film at the time , but proper shit now! I’m a cockney but absolutely cringe at these “cockney faces films” especially the way guy Ritchie constantly has to rip a corny 1 up joke whenever someone has crossed words.
I used to go to the Camden Palace all the time, and one particular doorman used to enjoy frisking me and giving me a good few squeezes and jokes at my expense, little did I know whom that person was...Gulp, was cocky to this guy too double gulp, which he seemed to enjoy too...
Lenny lost a fight to shaw a foot smaller and 5 stone lighter He must of been some fighter/ boxer shaw. Although as we all know Lenny won the other fights
if people only knew the lies and deciet acting and actors are really about.and its all very cleaverly scripted ans actors on actors and film to back the lies as if the real "gangsters".when there all ACTORS.
Yeah, it is a shit film. I can't stand any of those type of films from that era, or the footy hooli films. It's the lads' mag thespians on a gangsta trip I have a problem with. I was really willing all the leading protagonists to die in Lock Stock. The best of the footy hooli films is Cass, that at least is a genuine biography and the violence is if anything understated rather than contrived to give the actors a hard-on.
Herbert So your response to my statement about the film being objectively, not shit is for you to tell me how you subjectively don't like it. *clap* *clap*
G_Morto - It's not about you this time, princess, my comment was a response to the original post - the clue's in the acquiescent signifier of my very first word. I might have been clearer (and frightfully polite) if I'd addressed my comment to Alex but I was assuming on the widely received rule of thumb that an un-dedicated response pertains to the original comment. Sorry for your confusion. Although I'm not sure how you managed to become confused in the circumstances. Your response to Alex is a self-contained and redundant question to which the only possible honest answers are "Obviously" or "I don't know." Even in your haste to take offence you've haplessly overlooked your own succinct elucidation of the logic which suggests my comment was not a response to yours. Let's not dwell on it, though, aye, mate.
Herbert Ahh it's funny when someone suddenly becomes overly verbose and pretentious when they're called out on the interenet. Not only does it reek of desperation, but it is also painfully clear that you have no clear argument to back up your point. Next time, elaborate on how a film is "shit" using objective analysis rather than going on a childish rant about how you were responding to the op. Just makes you seem uneducated, aye, mate. Now i'll patiently wait for you to use some ad homien to again avoid any real argument.
This movie is a must for anyone who likes British humor or Guy Ritchie movies. An absolute classic.
“If you ain’t counting the fingers you aint go” is a cult classic line. What a guy! What a movie!
Horrible start to life for lenny, super tough upbringing, bullied and beat up since being 9 or 10yrs old, and people wonder why he was percieved by a few as a bully, its all he'd ever seen, so its all he ever knew, so glad the late Mike reed told him to try acting and he got to see the good side of life for a while, before his early passing. RIP The Guv'nor ..
Brilliant book, musunderstood bloke
Very hard life. He was around 48 years old here. Looks much older. I think his biggest battle was always with himself, and that drained him and made him old before his time in the end.
It was much worse than that. He started getting beat up at 4 by his stepfather. At 6 his stepfather broke his arm.. By 10 he was already bullying other kids for candy money.
@Skylar Tanner flixzone is a scam people do your research first. Its a CON
My small claim to fame, the black mk2 escort RS2000 in this scene used to be my car just before the film was made.
Brian Claridge bet you wish you'd kept it now with the money they are fetching mucker
I sold mine in early 90's for 1400 and still get pissed off thinking about that
@@moonbluebob haha
I've heard some wild outrageous fabrications in my time but this one just takes the absolutely biscuit sir
My dad is lenny
@@cbecks2051 your mother is also lenny
The last words are the best compliment anyone can hope to achieve regardless of status
Get me an ice cream while you're at it?
“Lenny, get me an ice cream while you’re at it..........yours sincerely......Roy Shaw”
He beat Roy shaw twice though so a bit of a wet insult there lad
@@hughmungus1235 whoooosh
@@longshotkdb straight over
@@hughmungus1235 at a considerable younger age
Thanks for putting more love in my heart Lenny McLean
He was a great friend. Every single Wednesday night I would have dinner with him at Camden Palace where he worked. His son Jamie a brilliant lad. His wife a wonderful woman. I never met his daughter.
I used to run a restaurant back in the day for a guy who was on the door with Lenny McLean at the Camden Palace, the stories he told me would cause a mixture of laughter and crying 😂😂😂
Lenny was a natural actor, this is his first and only role yet comes off brilliantly smooth like Brando or Michael Caine.
He didn't really have to act lol he was a tough guy already
He acted in a tv series as well
It wasn't his only role at all, why even say it?
😂 as smooth as brando and caine cmon now
You’re not right. You’re FHAKKIN right !! Kahnt.
"Is your hair supposed to look like that?" 😂
I wonder if that line was in the script or did Lenny ad lib. I go for the latter, it's cool.
I'm sure it was just after that, he muttered the immortal line....fackin' norven mankees. Up there with De Niro's....you lookin' at me?
It's crazy how this dude is such a character, so over the top, and yet so authentic that I remember the very moment I learned that Guy Ritchie had put some people in the film who had pasts dealing with legitimate British gangsters I thought, "Oh it's absolutely Barry, no question." Sure enough.
so you knew the character Barry before you saw the film? 'cos the guys name is actually Lenny
Lenny is the governor of London
He’s one tough SOB.
@@ThickNobBob I think he's saying he watched lockstock. And then later learnt that Guy casted some people who were real life villians and thought 'I bet it's the guy who played Barry!'.
@bingbong3643 He died in 1998
49 years old.
@02:51 'get his ice cream while you're at it' 😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 absolute legend!
"And get an Ice cream while your at it.."
Lenny was still in his forties here.He was only 49 when he died. Hard life he must have had. RIP Len
I met Lenny just before this film was out but still in production, he was working on the door of whatever massive club it is I think near Leicester Square (I was down for a week with a mate on a work thing). My mate was a bodybuilder & through that we got chatting. He was waiting for LS to be his big break, saying how much he'd struggled over life and now he was ready "for some cream", he said that a couple of times. It was obviously he was the REAL DEAL back then, but it was only later I found out just how much.
The club was the Astoria, I knew Lenny from there 😎
Skinhead Jon no it wasn’t it was The Hippodrome he worked there with his cousin Johnny Wall and Big Ray Barton early 90’s
@@johnthomas8711 What type of character was Ray Barton?
@@johnthomas8711 yep
@@johnthomas8711 Correct, used to go there and the Equinox,
It was this film that made me look up Lenny
You can see several of his fights on TH-cam
+264144253 Barry the Baptist lol dunking that poor guy in the barrel of rain water .
That would have made a cute little scene.
Rory goes to see Harry, Barry is outside, Rory puts on a big smile
"Alright Bazza 😁"
"Go on get in..."
And Rory has to put his serious gangster face back on before he sees Harry.
Implying that even Rory Breaker knows that Barry isn't to be messed with.
The man is basically a Good Kingpin
guy falls through a door drunk and lenny breaks his jaw. sounds like a nice bloke
exactly. anyone decent that he fought who wasnt small or drunk , beat him up. Twice in some cases (Waldron , Fields)
Movie people have no morals and tend to glamourise the wrong people.
@Rex if there are two sides how come all the documentaries only promote one side
That he is a gentleman criminal.
Loved!!
While it was little harsh , you can’t be breaking stuff and acting silly in a club without the consequences
The scousers were the best
Garrrrrrrry
Fucking shandy drinking southern bastards x
Doogie Carpit Burger “what the fuck do we know about antiques?”
Shut guuns
Guuns that fire shuut
Was gutted that they died haha
Lenny had a nice suit in the film
1:08 I love Jason Flemming but why do actors present that pseudo intellectual idea about themselves?
When he describes how he came up with the idea of 'going the other way' and being the character the other characters took the piss out of
No
This came about because the person who wrote the script wrote it word for word that the other characters would be taking the piss out of you, this was not down to some spark of creative acting genius, the character literally could not be played any other way
lewis morrison a) that’s not intellectualism b) a lot of roles are still open to the actor’s interpretation c) there was plenty of improv in this movie. And in lots of others
lewis morrison - I agree mate. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. He looked like he was high as fuck giving that interview too. I found it boring.
Right the theme tune, sing the theme tune haha
😂😂 always have to get high off their own farts don't they
LEwis - you don't seem to understand how scripts work. Did you know that Jack Sparrow was written as a completely serious character? Educate yourself.
I live in a small beach town in Oz and every Sunday Morning I have coffee with two English Blokes One was a doorman for the Kray's and the other was a sparing partner for Henry Cooper.. they are both bloody nice blokes.. and have some great stories about the old day's in London. neither of them like to hear swearing in front of women.. they are pretty old But I wouldn't want to take them on that's for sure..
Don't be taken in when I started work all the old boys who had moved out of London knew the krays
Big man in every way, loved to have met him.
@1:30 when Lenny says "Alright, short stuff" you can see he nearly falls over backwards and has to grab the pillar to hold himself up
He actually died a few weeks before the film was released, he was quite poorly during filming
Lenny had cancer doing the film he was physically very weak at this time he died not long after the film had been made
Every Lenny McLean video there's a few hundred keyboard warriors claiming they would have had him and that their uncle's aunt's dog walker told them this story about how nasty a guy he was. He would have ripped all of your heads off.
Lenny woulda picked them up and played them like an accordion. He was the toughest geezer around, end of
I went to the same gym Slims he didn’t beat me up or hurt anyone when I was there. To be honest no one in the right mind would wind him up anyway. I spotted him sometimes for the bench press I wonder what would have happened if I dropped the weights. No chance of that though 😂😂😂 I think he repected me though because I was young not massive but I was strong.
Face to face they wouldn't even make eye contact with him , had to be home by 9 o'clock anyway 🙄
No , he wasn't 'a nice bloke' but then he wasn't dealing with 'nice blokes' was he? Different generation me old cocker.
G.T.
E was a Fackin' bully!
@@TheHungryTrollRawr He was an ‘enforcer’ child, it’s what they do…..😱
@@lestrem11 child?
@@lestrem11 I know all about the guy, I read Shaw's book as well as other books, I've read many many. videos etc etc, he was a trouble maker and used his big frame to bully rival firms/clubs.
Roy Shaw got asked to sort him out by a guy who McLean was giving a real headache.
Read 'Pretty Boy
by Roy Shaw' for the full story and details about their fights, Roy Shaw won the first fight to give you an idea of how hard the man was.
if the milk turns sour. love that scene lol
"Sharing a bed with the antichrist"!😄
Rest in peace Jake Abraham, sleep tight mate
They did a series of shoots outside my place just off of Old Street N London .. Saw Vinnie's car door scene from my kitchen window .. Hazy daze they were, exciting & fresh .. What a film, dare I say, a modern British classic
Yes, London was different back then; a lot different. It's not longer London is it. Consider back then, only violet bastards would stab someone for nothing. Now, grab any 5 "hoods - we know who they are", and I bet they are all carrying.
natural actor lenny Mclean.. Perfect for the part .. He fits it like a glove .-
Ronnie Pickering could have had him 😂🤣😂🤣😂
I just spat out my coffee! Quality.
Who are ya then ?
@@ChrisPBacon1218 🤣
@@ChrisPBacon1218 do you know who I am! I'm Ronnie Pickering 😂🤣😂
@@kiesesoza who johnny pickering? who are ya then?
Very hard man RIP brother
Raging Lenny at 2:45 is the same one you can see in the fight when the boxer headbutted him. 😳
The Wealdstone raider would have them all for breakfast and shit them out 😂😂
Lovely Man.
If Nick the Greeks story is true, you have to wonder, if someone is pissed as a fart and falls through some doors, what is the point of then breaking their jaw?
Robert Taylor there is no point, he was a bully.
Fred Ralph correct !
Nick the Greek was called Nick the "Greek" because he was good with money.
if he done that and took advantage of a drunk man then he was dirty cunt a bully how many others did he do it too as well
+gerpool7......thankfully my wife and I have [until very recently] never had any contact with criminals during our entire lives. However, having now been a victim of criminals I can assure you that they are utterly vile people, totally lacking in any form of remorse or concern for anyone but themselves.
Why criminals are so revered, eulogised and near-worshipped is beyond me. It seems hardly a day goes by we are not bombarded with features, stories, books and films etc about yet another of these low-life scum. Yet we never ever hear about the victims of their ruthless and evil acts and the devastation they suffer. I know this from personal experience - but I would die if a film-maker, newspaper, magazine came and asked to hear mine and my wife's story!
Lenny Thanos Mclean.....RIP
It was called the Music Machine not the Palace then.
Classic scene!
Haaa! Jake fuckin genuinely shit him sen at the end there!! Top stuff!
Guy falls through a door drunk, and lenny breaks his jaw in 4 places, what a decent level headed individual.
There were you?
@@DanielFyfe Don't need to be, bully.
@@mickybrennan3489 Two sides to every story, maybe try hearing them both first. Or just judge as you see fit your holyness.
@@DanielFyfe nah he was a known bully! Nothing bad i;ve read about him suprises me
This idiot has no idea what a dangerous job a doorman has. This drunk could be carrying a knife, gun, ammonia. Doing the job people put hands in their pockets you hit then immediately. Take no chances. Idiot remarks he wouldn't last a week on door or police.
My old dad worked in the palace people knew him well
Such a good film! Always get this muddled up with Snatch.
2:50 What does Lenny say??
And get us an ice cream, while you are at it
@@n1nja9r72 Your ears are way better than mine, never would have deciphered that in a million lifetimes.
Love it!!!
Today my name is Mr Breaker...
...always wondered what the B stood for....
I'm amazed the bloke who played Harry didn't end up a big movie star. That's the best bit of casting in the movie.
Would've liked to have seen Vinnie's opinion on him
thanks for the laughs
Is your hair meant to be like that 😂
i seen his book watched every footage of him
i have simuler background i had a tuff upbrining started boxing at an early stage i was heart brocken when he passed away becouse i alwais wanted to meet him it was a big wish list to see him in person
kareem Ahmed nice grammar
It's really not about you although you think everything is
0:59
Frat official drop of the word “Sus”
Read his book ,, think where he came from,, then show some respect.. once he stopped the drink he wasn't as nasty
Legend
What's the song at the start please?
Liar liar - The Castaways (1965)
Lennys legend is a legend.
Just not among rugby players.
So he punched a drunk fella that wasn't even stood up and broke his jaw. What a great guy he obviously was, not a vile bully at all
Exactly what I thought
They have to say this.The reality is different
Guns for show , knifes for a pro, big fuck of ones.. ones that would skin a crocodile
R.I.P
I know a guy that worked the door with Lenny. He’s told me many a story. One I found interesting was he didn’t like freddie foreman. Lenny thought he was a nonce. Always sniffing around girls of 15/16.apparently one time Fred turned up with a 16 yo at the club and Lenny asked my friend to get him out or he’ll hurt him. He said he left quickly and quietly and there was no trouble.
First book i ever read!
The Guv'nor!
Never really saw the film like that when I watched it. Think it's because they go on about how tight knit his crew is or what have you. More like, they was all doing fine then landed in the shit. Nice cloths, that swanky mod feel and all that. Like, get in where you fit in. Must have been a good thing they had someone there he knew he couldn't take out, other wise the whole thing might have made fuck all sense. Lenny Mclean would definitely give you a little fright.
Guy Ritchie strayed away from the realness with his newer movies, he hasn't made a good film in ages
RIP Jake Abraham
I'm watching it
Died at 49, looked more like 70
Kevin - couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke, he was a horrible man that beat people up.
He would knock your head off from the grave lad. He had long cancer stage three filming lock stock and didn't even know he was that tough. Prick.
OK then why doesn't he try it? Cos he's dead you idiot. How is it you are even allowed on here? The prison lets you on one hour a month does it? Knob
pizzaDhut I will slap you on his behalf then. If you would be kindly tell me where you are. But I don't think that's gonna happen is it.
I have an idea why don't you tell me where you live and i will come and say hello? That sounds like a fair compromise? Moron
God rest his soul.
2:48
Is your hair supposed to look like that..... Love that one liner
Now!! Let's see his fucking cards😥
Почему нет ??? Карты деньги два ствола 2 !!!
Grafitti pest.
lenny and the scousers....hahahahaha
Lenny McLean was class.would have been a big star if he wasn't beat with that shit cancer
What did Frank Warren say about Lenny McLean….”he was a terrible bully”.
How did He die?
cancer ,his book THE GOVNER is the dogs bollox.
great read, he was the real Mcoy. Big daddy and Giant haystacks were little girls compared to him.
film is out now - YOU MUST see it if you are a lenny fan
aureo Voevoda he died of brain cancer....
He had a brain?
rip govna
They all say his name wrong - not mclane its mcLEAN .
I thought Nick The Greek's story sounded a bit fishy, but then Rory Breaker's really sounded like complete bullshit.
vonteflon why?
vonteflon Not really as both actors came from London & knew Lennie. I knew a few man who knew Lennie.
I remember I think he punched someone and he died..think he got convicted..he was working somewhere ..I may be wrong
Nearly lost his balance for a sec there.. the way he moves though for a guy of that size...😬💩☠️
Intro song tho
he was beaten a few times
Is McLean dead?
he died in 1998, after the film was released.
Yeah I think it was Cancer
I knocked shit out of him in 2002 👊
I beat Mclean and shaw on the same night but there was no camera's or witnesses
Then you went home and completed championship manager
@@tinman8311 how did you know
@@steves941 you seem that sort of guy
Yeah me too then I knocked out Lew Yates unfortunately there were no witnesses and Lew don't talk about it
Wnker
Horrible bully
Roy Shaw said Lennie was a bully and he wasn't the only one, Billy Frost and Lennie Hamilton said in an interview he was a bully.
Lenny was a bully
@MC Madness at my work a old boy from London knew of him from London he used to run the doors and he said he would force them to pay tax or face a beating sounds a real lovely bloke
@EyeDee even the actor said his m8 had his jaw broke by lenny for being drunk in a club if u watched the video or did u fall to sleep again
All these hard men so called always either on doors money collectors or wheel c lampers you no the real mind boggling jobs there all designed for the thick ones they all think there hard but underneath there nothing just a lot of bullies if you think your hard go and pick on the triads
Tough guy but not a trained or disciplined fighter, just an ‘ard bastard.
Put him in a sanctioned ring with a decent middleweight and he’d look a mug.
Bullshit. Weight classes exist for a reason.
Good film at the time , but proper shit now!
I’m a cockney but absolutely cringe at these “cockney faces films” especially the way guy Ritchie constantly has to rip a corny 1 up joke whenever someone has crossed words.
Liked the film, but the tv series was better.
I used to go to the Camden Palace all the time, and one particular doorman used to enjoy frisking me and giving me a good few squeezes and jokes at my expense, little did I know whom that person was...Gulp, was cocky to this guy too double gulp, which he seemed to enjoy too...
Always about you isn't it ?
That's why you've not got any mates & bore people on here
Lenny lost a fight to shaw a foot smaller and 5 stone lighter He must of been some fighter/ boxer shaw. Although as we all know Lenny won the other fights
Lenny made his excuses for his loss, Roy made his excuses for his two losses. Truth is, they were both hard as, and not to be messed with.
Roy Shaw was a monster! Read his book, trust me it's facinating.
too young
Gary Spiers was the toughest doorman this country ever had. Not this bully
if people only knew the lies and deciet acting and actors are really about.and its all very cleaverly scripted ans actors on actors and film to back the lies as if the real "gangsters".when there all ACTORS.
he was a shit actor though wasn't he, as was locks stock. I'll stick with his documentary and his book :)
Alex McGowan Its objectively not shit though is it?
Yeah, it is a shit film. I can't stand any of those type of films from that era, or the footy hooli films. It's the lads' mag thespians on a gangsta trip I have a problem with. I was really willing all the leading protagonists to die in Lock Stock. The best of the footy hooli films is Cass, that at least is a genuine biography and the violence is if anything understated rather than contrived to give the actors a hard-on.
Herbert So your response to my statement about the film being objectively, not shit is for you to tell me how you subjectively don't like it. *clap* *clap*
G_Morto - It's not about you this time, princess, my comment was a response to the original post - the clue's in the acquiescent signifier of my very first word. I might have been clearer (and frightfully polite) if I'd addressed my comment to Alex but I was assuming on the widely received rule of thumb that an un-dedicated response pertains to the original comment. Sorry for your confusion.
Although I'm not sure how you managed to become confused in the circumstances. Your response to Alex is a self-contained and redundant question to which the only possible honest answers are "Obviously" or "I don't know." Even in your haste to take offence you've haplessly overlooked your own succinct elucidation of the logic which suggests my comment was not a response to yours.
Let's not dwell on it, though, aye, mate.
Herbert Ahh it's funny when someone suddenly becomes overly verbose and pretentious when they're called out on the interenet. Not only does it reek of desperation, but it is also painfully clear that you have no clear argument to back up your point.
Next time, elaborate on how a film is "shit" using objective analysis rather than going on a childish rant about how you were responding to the op. Just makes you seem uneducated, aye, mate.
Now i'll patiently wait for you to use some ad homien to again avoid any real argument.
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