Well that's typical narcissist they don't want to take care of kids. Or anyone they just want what they want when they want it which is ever-changing never pleases them and they hate everyone so they are a mess and nobody should let a narcissist raise a child because they won't they just want power and control over a child they want to try somebody to obey them which children are an easy target to get to obey. They're really awful people
my mom did that too, still criticises me whenever i eat, claiming i have to save money/ can't spend money on food - i have been underweight since soon after she got me after the divorce (10yo), even underwent years of being chronically ill bc of that and how she destroyed me. she would dismiss it all as me "being needy/complicated/a lot te deal with". when she came home from work I was not allowed to eat anymore or she would get very angry for destroying her peace in her house.. it's a shame that divorce regulations and big parts of society still favor mothers over fathers thinking every mum is a good one when some just (ab)use their children as puppets to paint a life that in reality does not exist for their own good, sad thing too that so many believe it and often times tell children who cut contact they are being bad for doing so
Besides the punishments that had a physical effect on the children, Ruby Franke laughed when her young teens told her they had no friends because of the vlogging channel. They didn't have any social life, at the most important time for social development. She took Christmas away from the two children who were rescued from Jodi's house a few years ago, with her husbands support. They were 8 and 10 years old at that time. Sent her oldest son to a wilderness camp over a prank, then made him sleep on the family room floor with a bean bag for 7 months. She took the door off the bathroom he was allowed to use! She has tortured them for years.😢
Oh please, haha, said every teenage daughter that came out of a strict home and ran away to be a 304...It's very common and 9 times out of 10, it's the teenagers or young woman's fault.
I had someone respond to my comment on this case in a different video, incredulous that anything had ever been reported to police. Even asked if I had a copy of a statement where police dismissed the accusation 🙄 I don’t know if people are smug or just that naive about how certain claims get treated by law enforcement.
Meanwhile a couple years ago her oldest daughter Shari made posts online adamantly defending her mother’s parenting. Now she’s suddenly switching up eh…
@@ShoyuRamenBreakingBad Is she "switching up", or is she a child who is waking up from her parents' brainwashing? Maybe have some compassion instead of judgement. We should be focusing on the amazing fact that she has realized the way she was raised was wrong. Many never get to that point.
Police are members of the church, the church runs the State government, Jodi exposes the church to criticism, the church blocks anything that criticizes it. It's been that way since Brigham Young seized this land, and the church believes it belongs to them.
Do not burden the oldest daughter with the responsibility that is not hers. Being raised by a narcissist there are trauma bonds that have to be broken first. All the children are victims including her.
Totally agree, we don’t know if Ruby punish siblings if a child is wrongdoing and by that they won’t say anything because they got scared that the siblings will be punished if they say anything. Kate Gosselin is another narcissist mother, she punish the siblings if another child was wrongdoing and in the end poor Collin became the one that always got the blame
Exactly. It's weird that the reporter is lowkey victim-blaming the grown daughter for not speaking up. When in fact, the grown daughter is a victim, too.
it’s just so sad bc we have literally been saying this for years and years, and we all got ignored. neighbors got ignored. everyone got ignored. these kids could’ve been safer so much sooner if the police and cps actually cared
I wonder if a family intervention would have helped at all? I've heard of family interventions for drug abusers or alcoholics. I just can't see waiting around for CPS to intervene when the family obviously knew there was a problem. It probably wouldn't have helped but I would have tried or threatened or something. 🤔
Ruby's sisters tried to step in a few years ago, when they found out she was starting to work with Jodi. That is when Ruby cut off all ties with her family. It took Sherri about a year to heal herself, and seek help. She also started to reconnect with her aunts. The whole family did try to step in, but Ruby got pulled into Jodi, and that's when things really started to go down hill for her and the family members she could control. It's sad that this has happened, but it shows how easily people are sucked into ideologies of others, and end up harming themselves and others.
This is a big problem in our society in general. No one does anything. People in positions of power just sit there…I’m so over this kind of behavior…abusers everywhere, in jobs, schools, families…and nothing happens until it’s almost too late or is….
As a teacher of 25 years and a Mom of 3, schools do not let kids go hungry. They receive a sandwich, fruit, and Milk. And any teacher I know of will give a student lunch money, this woman is a monster. I hope this woman gets her children taken away from her and has a long prison sentence.
@@ciarat4646 Please see my response above. I think if the parents can't take care of the kids the community needs to step in. Of course not for mothers like this though.
She does not need to see the light of day ever. Somehow they need to put her away for so many years that she does not come out ever. It's also an example for other religious and non religious child abusers.
Children learn what they live. The oldest daughter is the most courageous person I've seen in a while. Her brother escaping the wrath of their mother is another example of courage.
The worst thing social services did, besides not listening to complaints, was leave a note on the door to give her some notice. That gave her time to coach the kids or fix things that she didnt want anyone to see. Idk the whole story but that stuck with me when they talked about the note
They always give a heads up to families who earn over a certain amount of money. If this was a trailer park family, the kids would have been taken away immediately.
Parents have zero right to withhold food or imprison their children. Mental cruelty is not the parents' right. Ruby seems very sadistic, from what I have heard.
Ruby does seem unhinged. But i think you'll find that parents do have the right do as they will with their own kids. Government taking kids away from their parents is most likely more traumatic
Yep…HYPOCRITICAL child abuser! Zero tolerance should be the norm for this type of cruelty and negligent denial!!!! I’m sooo angry 😡 Anyhoo…you have a great day, especially now the innocent children are free!🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
When you're in it as a kid, you have no idea how messed up things are. These kids have many years of therapy and healing ahead of them before things are resolved. Praying for the children 🙏
If that! You dont correct and heal everything with therapy... If you're lucky you find a good one but it takes your entire life to correct what she damaged
Coming from an abusive home myself, and growing up in Utah , it doesn’t surprise me that the kids didn’t say anything. I had a lot of friends who seemed to have nice homes with nice families and I didn’t want to be embarrassed or taken away. I feel awful for these babies. It’s so confusing to be hurt by a parent, and even as an adult it’s been hard to talk about it and admit it. I just hope they all stick together❤
Her daughter is SO brave for coming forward and bringing all of this to light. I can’t imagine how difficult that decision was for her to make, but she is a hero for doing what she did because she saved all of her siblings from that hellish environment.
And she probably loves her parents in spite of it all. It had to be a heart rending decision for her. She is willing to accept alienation and accusations of betrayal from many sides but rescuing her siblings was her heroic choice.
Except she didn't bring it to light! The 12 ye old got out and got help and she's only speaking up now that her mom was arrested. Apparently she did try to report it but clearly didn't pursue it until something was actually done. I understand she was a victim too but how could you leave your siblings to deal with it and not constantly call authorities to help them once you got out
@@tinab8363 She, other family members, and neighbors have been trying to get police and CPS involved for years. It’s not her fault they chose to do nothing until the child begged for help. She’s not at fault here. She didn’t fail them or let this go. Law enforcement and CPS failed these kids while everyone tried to save them.
This guy speaks facts. I didn't break away until I was 26 years old and only after my sister had been killed by our father. There is a reason the word "toxic" is used so often.
@davidbennett9691 That's great. Now the enormous following will see the injustice of a mother stealing time away from her precious children to upload ridiculous mind numbing videos and parading her children for money.
I was put into foster care, the old lady would pad lock us in at night, no bathroom no nothing, but made me want to get away from everyone. Foster care and state run child services are just like everything else, far from perfect.
My mother used to make me go to the bathroom, then lock me in my room with a slide bolt. I used to have nightmares about a fire consuming the house and not being able to escape.
@@aviewer390How awful! Fire is a valid concern. When I was in elementary school, my home caught fire. We had to live in an apartment for a long time while the home was rebuilt.
My mother used to rub jalapeño in my eyes and steal my eyeglasses. I was just a kid. As a child I kind of just fought in that moment, as an adult… I cry for the little girl that was put through that.
Why is it assault if I hit an adult, but it’s okay because it’s a child? Children are people and should have equal protection under the law. No one should be able to defend assaulting a child under the premise of “it’s my child I have a right…”
For some reason, in America, kids rate just above pets. Our state government child services should hire as many people as they need, and be given all the resources they require. Kids should be #1 in this country.
Ruby has the craziest eyes I have ever seen. She is pure evil. I pray those kids heal. She is not fit for society and deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars!
I purposely do not follow family channels, because I hate how they expose their children, but I stumbled across one of her videos a few years ago and was shocked. Just to see how she treated these children, her body language, her voice, her facial expressions full of contempt, her crazy eyes told me this woman is a full blown psychopath. She enjoyed vilifying these kids, she enjoyed their fear, she enjoyed to have power over them. She is pure evil. She is the devil in person.
Monetizing children should be monitored by some agency. It exposes them to saturated social media and not only isn’t it child labor violations as the channels make money but and sickos.
I agree with you i don't watch family's either I find it such a violation of the children privacy parent record some of their most vulnerable moments of the children its on the net for ever and when they become young teens and hanging with friends and they decide to google last names and OOOLPS THERE IT IS
because unfortunately sometimes cps doesn’t step in until it’s almost too late. that little boy escaping might’ve been the thing that saved him and his siblings life, so sad.
That is a mighty good question, but it seems like she was pretty good at hiding reality when investigated. She’s a malignant narcissist & is massively controlling at the very least and no doubt has other psychological abnormalities like sadism, psychopathy etc. A lot of those people are very good at manipulating others & hiding who they really are.
I’m sorry you went through this. I’m a Christian and I can’t imagine what she was doing. We treat everyone with love and respect and dignity, especially our children😢Hope you are healing now
This case just shows that it doesn't matter how many neighbours/ members of the public contact the authorities on your behalf, or how much video evidence the abuser puts online for all to see, it still takes years for anything to actually happen, it's insane, we need to be better as a society.
Apparently the children have to be traumatized for life before the system works. Meanwhile police are busting people for weed. That is more important to them.
Exactly!!! They say "neighbors kept aware of the situation, they called authorities multiple times and blah blah. As if it was a good thing that neighbors kept police up to date but the police did absolutely nothing and turned heads the other way. I hate this world..
I love anti-Western trolls on true crime TH-cam channels, you'd think they'd be a bit better getting rid of that garbage, but everybody is just as awful... evidently.
“We used to handle it inside the family” is simply another way of saying, “We used to turn our heads and allow our daughters, sisters, mothers, etc. and their children to get beat up.”
Franke and her husband were terrible enough to those kids, but when she connected with that Jodi Hidebrand lady, she drank some sort of Kool-Aid and really went off the rails. Apparently, that Jodi lady was always bad news, way before partnering with Franke. She’s been destroying families for a while.
At one point, the licensing body that governs her therapy license was so concerned about her practice that at one point they didn’t trust her to see clients alone
From personal experience when I threatened to tell on my parents to the authorities they told me “you’ll be taken away you’ll never see your siblings again and you’ll probably be hit and not fed” as if the same thing wasn’t happening at home but it still made me “act right” and not report anything. I know I was a child but it haunts me I didn’t help my little siblings get out of it. I feel so so much for the oldest sister. I’m sure she was forced to raise the littles when “mom” didn’t want to and it all broke her heart. It’s really hard to know what to do in situations like that. Even at 20. She clearly wasn’t prepared to take on real world problems so it must have been hard for her to rationalize and know what to do for her siblings :(( poor babies. This will 100% follow them for life
Similar not as bad as many others endured but it has affected my whole life at 56 I struggle to trust women for true friendship & men. I don't know what love & normal are supposed to be.
The brainwashing part is terrifyingly true. I had a friend who grew up in an abusive family and she would often talk about them like they were normal things parents do while we were just horrified. The normal parenting stuff like feeding us and buying clothes were seen as an above and beyond thing for her because she normalized being starved just cause she didn't clean the house...
The adult child is only 20 and NOT the parent of her siblings. She HAD been calling CPS and the Law BUT they did NOTHING of measure to help those kids. Those kids broke free and got help themselves. Whoever is blaming the older child - shame. She did what she could. Her mom might have honestly killed her if she showed up and threatened to take the kids and the Mom was faced with being exposed.
Starving her children and placing them 4 hours away from her - the little boy was either in a “safe” room or near one. He escaped- hands taped & ran far to a neighbors house. The little girl was somewhere else in the house. They were NOT EVEN TOGETHER!! Bravo little boy for rescuing yourself & your sister.
The suggestion that Ruby had this happen to her as a child is completely ridiculous - Ruby’s entire family have been speaking out and trying to get child services to intervene for years.
From a perspective of child that grew up in a toxic household a lot of the reason you don't call CPS on your family is because you think they mean well enough, but you know what they're doing is wrong. You just feel safe with your parents because that's all you've known. I'm just now realizing that not everyone screams at the top of their lungs at everyone in their family.
Fear of being disbelieved and retribution by the parent when that happens. Ruby made a LOT of money exploiting her children, and could use it to intimidate authorities, neighbors, reporters, etc. She is a very disturbed, sadistic narcissistic individual. Disgusting that folks supported this: shame on them.
As a child who DID tell and got us put in foster care after my dad cornered and beat my little sister with a belt leaving bruises and welts, all that came from it was us getting returned to our home and being blamed for the whole ordeal because we "couldn't keep our mouths shut". Foster care sucked but at least the home we were put in wasn't terrible, they just told us we "probably weren't going home, they have seen cases like this and we shouldn't get our hopes up." LOL. Craziest part is we WANTED to go back because we just felt wrong not being at home, only to go back and be labeled as "traitors".
nothing good comes out of telling CPS did same thing and it has been a whole 2 years of hate from my family and being made out as the crazy person who imagines things in the family @/go/hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UALV2LhCxiPDHzJzGxLQrZee
My mom wasn’t perfect, but she always kept us well fed. There’s something about denying children food that is just so evil! They need food to grow, denying them nutrition may effect their bodies permanently as in not growing tall to their full potential.
Food is one of the most important things a child needs to feel secure. Many children who were deprived of food and went hungry, either deliberately or due to poverty, are still affected even into old age. It’s very common for children who suffer that way to hoard food when they do have access to it, and some even continue the pattern into old age by always having something to eat, snacks and such, in their pockets and purses. It’s very sad.
It's crazy because I was also raised in a large mormon family and my parents utililized some of the same "parenting" tactics. I didn't realize how extreme some of these methods are (like witholding food) until I saw the internet react to this. It's helped me to feel justified that those "parenting" styles were not okay.
I hope that you have healed and are living your very best life. Interested if you left the church or if not, have you seen any improvement in this type of discipline?
My 18 year old daughter brought this mom and her family to my attention a couple of months before her arrest. She was actually concerned about the treatment of her kids and I said to her it’s probably all fake for follows. What I have learned from this as always listen to your children’s concerns. I’m heartbroken that I didn’t speak up.
I CANNOT believe that Dad didn’t get arrested too!! He’s clearly complicit with what she’s soing to the kids. It’s sickening that dad got the kids.. they’re still not safe!!!
Where do you get your information from? Because you are 100% wrong here he didn’t get the kids. Do you like to share misinformation on purpose? Are you a troll?
@@Shaolin91z Or a non-religious wife! He'll have a shot at normalcy that way. And I hope for the love of all that is held dear that those kids get an athiest family.
@@Shaolin91z Or a non-religious wife! He'll have a shot at normalcy that way. And I hope for the love of all that is held dear that those kids get an athiest family.
With holding food as punishment, telling her children that food is something they earn. That SHOULD be enough to get social services to have a serious chat with her LONGGGGG ago.
This woman saw her children as dollar signs. She is truly psychotic and I can’t believe people saw and new about this for years and something has FINALLY been done…
I remember seeing a video Ruby made on 8P & she said something along the lines of her biggest fear waking up everyday is not having content to video for their channel. She used those kids to fund her lifestyle yet those poor kids didn’t see that money. Her 2 youngest kids had Christmas taken from them! Her oldest son didn’t have a door or a bed for about 7mos & slept on a beanbag! Having a 6yo responsible for making her own lunch & if she didn’t, then she didn’t get lunch! She didn’t want the teacher giving her lunch “bc the teacher wasn’t comfortable” with it. Unreal.
The bravery of the child to run from the home seeking help when all they’ve ever known is punishment and fear. So glad the justice system finally stepped in, hoping the kids all find healing with time. So confused where the dad is in all of this though, he wasn’t charged but like… he stood by and watched this?
All of the pictures of the children with huge smiles are very hard to look at. Me and my siblings grew up with a wicked stepmother, CPS called first to make an appointment?!! and we were all told to wear our "Sunday best". Before the woman came, our wicked stepmother told us not to say anything and smile!! It was all found unsubstantiated. :( All of these children need so much love.
Breaks my heart to imagine a young child knocking on their neighbor's door and asking if they could play with their kids. They knew there were kids in that house and they just wanted friends and playmates. How isolated and desperate did that child feel to be brave enough and ask to spend time with their neighbor's kids?
Everyone who watched 8 passengers knew this was coming. She treated her kids very very bad. I'm wondering were her oldest son is bc he had it bad. I hope he's okay.
@@Mimi2thebestboyseverHe is living with friends not his Father. Kevin is just as guilty as Ruby. He always was an absentee father, cowardI say. Ruby ruled the roost.
Chad was amazing and such a normal teenager and Ruby controlled/manipulated and took so much from that kid. What a psychopath.. chad never forgive your mom! She treated you terribly
I’m about to watch it and learn more about these kids because they had adverse childhood experiences and it will affect them as they get older. I am a human services graduate student and have been studying this subject extensively.
TH-camrs get their videos demonetized over pretty much nothing and then TH-cam turns this kind of family into millionaires. Um, TH-cam needs to do something to fix that. Therein lies a massive part of the problem.
This is just like my mom. When I was a child she wouldn’t feed me when I was hungry, it was always go ask your father… so many beatings from both parents. Many nights left hungry, spent in an unfinished basement with no furniture, spiders everywhere, with the lights off as punishment, sneaking up the stairs or out of my bedroom for bread for dinner after everyone went to bed. Now as an adult out of the house they refuse to help if I’m In a financial bind. I wish I was loved by parents. I’m jealous of anyone who was raised in a loving house by parents that wanted children. I feel so empty inside. I’m an introvert because I’m so scared of being hurt by people.
Find a strong community where everyone checks up on each other and is genuine, it takes time to learn to trust but with the right people, love is enough to change your heart. I really recommend an athletic group, artistic group, something like that. Obviously don't just blindly trust anyone, but when someone does what they say they will over and over, it's okay to let them in a little.
My mother would tell me that we have two families: the one we came from and the one we create. And it doesn't always mean a spouse and children of our own. Our created family includes friends and community. I hope you find your second family out there. They're waiting for you. ♡♡♡
Every single cent that she has made off of those children she should have to split equally amongst the children alone. They get that money when they turn 18 to live the life that they want out of the hands of that monster. Everyone of those children should sue their parents please talk about that
The image at the 5 minute mark with her and her son broke my heart. That little boy suffered so much at the hands of her. He saved his siblings. He’s a real hero. But that picture, they look so happy. Just a reminder that you never truly know what goes on behind closed doors…
The thing is, this is their normal. You don't realize how messed up things are until you are grown up and get out. I loved my parents very much and miss them every day since they have died but I had no clue how dysfunctional and toxic my upbringing was until I left with the man I've now been with for 11 years. Sure, I knew other families were more on the normal side but I didn't realize exactly how abnormal and sad my raising was until I got out. It really hit me when I introduced my fiance to my family and he was very scared and uncomfortable but it was my normal and the sad truth is that this is their normal. They likely didn't even expect all this to happen when he went to get help. He just wanted some food and water. He had no clue that the cops and cps would get involved because a) they failed him every time people called before but more importantly b) this was just their life in his eyes. It was his normal. Just another day. The extent of how horrifying this truly was will hit him as an adult and he'll need a lot of help when the realization hits
It's possible they were genuinely happy when the picture was taken. Apparently things took a turn for the worse when they got involved in a cult/program called Connections run by the woman Jodi who was also arrested. The cult encouraged them to cut off family members and had really awful beliefs and practices etc
100%. Consenting adults only. Child actors are very closely monitored and even then awful crap has happened to a lot of them. TH-cam encourages these narcissistic parents to further exploit their children and there are no parameters or limits whatsoever!
One of the things that truly disturbed me was when she threatened to cut the head off the child's stuffed animal with scissors. Children's toys feel very much the same as other people to them. It's terrifying to a child to even fathom such a thing happening!!! My step dad used to threaten to chop my rice Paddy shoes in half. From that moment I feared him until I was old enough to literally kick him in the privates during a commonplace beating
The moment that an abused kid fights back changes EVERYTHING! I was around 11, and grabbed my bipolar mother's hands so she couldn't keep slapping me (she was a 90-lb alcoholic). She never physically attacked me again, but of course the psychological abuse never ended until the day she died. That day, a massive weight was lifted; I only wish I didn't have to live over 40 years poisoned by her venom.
She's been trying to protect her children from the world when all this time they needed protection from her. This parenting group she's in isn't about being a parent it's about controlling children and feeding their egos.
The authorities involved in this case should be held accountable. Considering the amount of complaints made by neighbors. Their reckless conduct could have had tragic results.
CPS needs to be held accountable for not doing something sooner. They were contacted multiple times by the daughter and neighbors and people that watched the videos - and they did NOTHING!
@@susancook1448 absolutely!!! And never be allowed to work in another position that gives them power over the outcome of children’s lives! Wishing for them to be jailed is ridiculous but I sure wish they would be.
I’m 56 and I’m still fearful of my mother….so Cherie the eldest child is a victim too …. and is a very brave person to do what she did and I’m proud of her for doing what she did to protect her siblings.
Being upset and angry about a song choice for a flash mob when you’re restraining and starving your children is really F’d up. I hope they lock her and her husband up!
We absolutely need to be empathetic to the eldest daughter. She's still young and just because she is classified as an "adult" doesn't mean she magically knows a different perspective to life. Instead of shame her, support her. Bobby Chacon has great insight and empathy. Well said.
Nor it is the eldest sibling's responsibility to rescue her siblings. It has probably taken college for her to see just how weird and abusive was the family environment. And where was the dad in all this?
@@jodiforeman3314 Could not agree with you more. A big part of the problem is understaffing due to budget constraints, and resultant burnout due to social workers being overwhelmed. If children are society’s greatest treasure, then our governments, whether local, provincial/state, or federal, need to step up and do right by them. 😡
Calling the police in a community of 98% Mormon on a Mormon will get you nothing! I believe everyone tried from neighbors to family, all fell on deaf ears. DCF has to see something wrong in a home visit. House was spotless.
Exactly. If you are being mistreated, expose it on social media. If you show what is happening, people on the outside will pressure authorities to deal with it. If you are not safe, get out no matter what the abusers threaten to do if you leave. Get out, speak up, testify in court, and help stop them from ever doing it again.
Don’t make excuses for the abuser. She has heard YES to much and has gotten away with it. Her daughter did try to get help but no one would help . The family and viewers have been reporting her but the authorities seem to look the other way when they are wealthy , are a semi celebrity or whatever the reason is the “law” chose to look the other way.
I’ve been watching them since I was in middle school- I’m 20 now. Thank GOD they finally caught her. As I grew up I started to realize how mistreated those kids were. My heart breaks for them and I hope they find the help they need ❤️.
I am a survivor of grooming, SA, mental abnse, emotional abnse, etc. for most of my childhood to mid teens. I remember my abnser told me that if I ever told, that they would harm my family and EXACTLY how they would do it. People don’t speak out to protect others and genuine fear of the consequences.
True. I knew someone whose incestuous father repeatedly threatened her with, " if you tell anyone, I'll leave your mother and sisters. They'll have no home and no food because of you." So she didn't tell & ran away when she was 15 or 16. Her mom & sisters, school counselors, law enforcement, etc perceive her as a wild rebellious teen. Her dad would also create situations to set her up to look like a liar. He'd hide an empty Swiss cheese wrapper in her room. When the family wanted to make Sunday brunch, no one could find the Swiss cheese & everyone denied eating it. Well, what did a house search reveal? Then he abusively spanked her off & on for hours for lying.
The lack of love and awareness is so horrific that its hard too watch. Especially as a behavioral therapist who works with empathy with kids on the spectrum!!
Ruby and her husband used multiple questionable methods when raising those kids. Withholding food is only one example. Cancelling Christmas for the youngest kids as punishment or removing someone's bedroom for 7 months have been other instances. The husband agreed to these punishments so why should he get custody of the kids? The sisters knew as well (even before Jodie came into the picture) and they seemed fine with it?
I understand this from first hand experience. My older siblings left and moved on. They tried to look after me, but they had their own lives and we had all been brainwashed. It was hard to know what was "normal" and every child wants to think their mom knows best. My mom is a covert narcissist, constantly plays the victim and makes everyone around her want to help out feel bad for her. I had to overcome people pleasing and co dependent habits in my late 20s that attracted toxic people into my life similar to my mom. Some of my siblings still have serious mental health issues, but our family is broken because of my mom and most likely from generations before her. But Christ truly changed my life. This cycle has been broken in my line of the family. By having kids, God really opened my eyes to how unhealthy my mom is because I would never do the things she did to my own children.
We had the same mom! I pray for my younger sister. I tried to help as much as I could, offered her a room in my home but she always refused. I took her on a trip with my kids and she had this big outburst and was saying things just like our mom, that’s when I realized I just can’t save her. She’s 19 now so I’m hoping she gets away. I just can’t have all that around my own kids. I don’t even let my kids near my parents for long periods of time. I don’t want them to normalize all the toxic behaviors.
That's unfortunate. The most important relationship you will have in your lifetime is the one with your siblings. Parents should guide these relationships, not put a sibling favorite in place. It teaches love and respect among siblings. I feel your pain, and understand your reasoning completely, though.
I too grew up thinking yelling to get your way was just how everyone lived - up until I somehow saw how detrimental it was to MY kids - my son was 2, my nephew was 4, they were in the back seat giggling , goofing around and I was extremely stressed out due to just having scraped the side of my car on a fence, so not the k I ds fault but I began screaming at them to shut up, blah deblah blah blah, I couldn't seem to stop yelling when I glanced up and aaw them just staring at me with a look of fear in their eyes and tears streaming down their little faces - it stopped me cold and right then I swore I would never ever yell at them like that again - that was 44 years ago and I've (pretty much) kept my word!!! There were a few times like when they were teenagers that I got after them but they DID deserve a tongue lashing a time or two in their teens, other than that, I successfully kept my anger under control, I loved my mom very much and I know she had a highly stressful job in an era when most women stayed home after marriage and children
Anyone that presents a perfect picture for all of social media is a liar. Be very suspicious of people who pretend to have it all together all the time.
My daughter watched her videos and said that using the bathroom was a privilege they had to pay money to use it. Something is way off here. She is a monster not just a narcissist
If child protective services/police are called or a wellfare check is called. And there is no answer on multiple occasions. There should be some type of "get back to us. In 24 or 48 hrs or a warrant will be issued." ESPECIALLY IF THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE CALLS
cps is underfunded. theyre not gonna get involved unless things are serious. and like someone mentioned, when cps arrives, its not hard to have all the kids dress up and appear normal.
The body language between the 'Mom' and the business partner feels like there is more there. Furthermore, her moral outage at the flash mob yet she starves and mistreats her children is laughable. I hope her children have the support that they need and that she and her 'partner' go to jail for a very long time.
Didn’t the older daughter remark that they tried to get law enforcement and protective services involved for years and nothing was done? Instead of questioning why the oldest child didn’t help question those who were alerted and did nothing…
I know they mentioned the father being kicked out by this despicable woman, but what role if any did the father play in all this? Clearly he had to have some knowledge of what was going on? Disgusting all around
I hope he doesn't get custody of the kids. he was on board with everything they did on youtube and then just abandoned them. kids don't become malnourished overnight.
@@xoch1717 he didn’t abandon them when he left he tried to take all the kids with him but the Court wouldn’t allow that and left them with their abuser. Luckily for Chad he was old enough to say he would rather be with his father and when he did he was able to live a normal life. Sadly, the other kids that was left with ruby didn’t get that chance but hopefully now they will.
@@michellem.8443 Was he a victim when he was complicit and agreeing with what she was doing? When he was with her he supported what she did. He was on her side. He's an enabler and an abuser.
I can't wait for the inmates to find out what their charges are. The worst thing you could do is hurt a child and end up in prison. These 2 disgusting beings will get theirs.
5:29 So, if Ruby's husband/ father of the kids got kicked out by her. He should have fought for full custody of their kids and reported her to the cops. 😢
She is the definition of “loves to have babies, but despises raising children”
You mean every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child??
@@cassy420blaze?
Probably doesn't believe in birth control
Well that's typical narcissist they don't want to take care of kids. Or anyone they just want what they want when they want it which is ever-changing never pleases them and they hate everyone so they are a mess and nobody should let a narcissist raise a child because they won't they just want power and control over a child they want to try somebody to obey them which children are an easy target to get to obey. They're really awful people
@@stephanied6451No narcissist just really love having children to control the kids and have power and control over them and usually a partner.
Any woman who denies food to her own children does not deserve to be called “mom”.
very true ,a horrible person.
my mom did that too, still criticises me whenever i eat, claiming i have to save money/ can't spend money on food - i have been underweight since soon after she got me after the divorce (10yo), even underwent years of being chronically ill bc of that and how she destroyed me. she would dismiss it all as me "being needy/complicated/a lot te deal with". when she came home from work I was not allowed to eat anymore or she would get very angry for destroying her peace in her house.. it's a shame that divorce regulations and big parts of society still favor mothers over fathers thinking every mum is a good one when some just (ab)use their children as puppets to paint a life that in reality does not exist for their own good, sad thing too that so many believe it and often times tell children who cut contact they are being bad for doing so
There is a difference between denying food and using food as a punishment or means of control.
ABSOLUTELY
@@emilyconway2860when is denying food NOT punishment?
For a young adult to be grateful that their mom is in handcuffs, I can’t imagine the torment this woman did to her children.
Besides the punishments that had a physical effect on the children, Ruby Franke laughed when her young teens told her they had no friends because of the vlogging channel. They didn't have any social life, at the most important time for social development. She took Christmas away from the two children who were rescued from Jodi's house a few years ago, with her husbands support. They were 8 and 10 years old at that time. Sent her oldest son to a wilderness camp over a prank, then made him sleep on the family room floor with a bean bag for 7 months. She took the door off the bathroom he was allowed to use! She has tortured them for years.😢
My husband raised Mormon says they don’t sin?……………….sad but true they brain wash them!
The kids just want her money
Oh please, haha, said every teenage daughter that came out of a strict home and ran away to be a 304...It's very common and 9 times out of 10, it's the teenagers or young woman's fault.
she needs some real charges this is not ok
There are parents who would starve in order to feed their babies, and then there are monsters like this woman.
По её поведению видно,что она явно психически больная.Комплекс Герострата,вероятно,
присутствует.
This woman is a cult leader in the making. Thank God she was caught. Those poor kids.
Lori vallow day bell
Literally 100%@@workermannamrekrow2768
She went from being a cult member (Mormon church) to a cult leader.
@@workermannamrekrow2768 Looks like they're related. This story would have the same ending too.
She is from the same small town Chad Daybell was from until he moved recently before the murders to Rexburg
I absolutely hate when people ask the victim(s) "Why didn't you speak up sooner"
I had someone respond to my comment on this case in a different video, incredulous that anything had ever been reported to police. Even asked if I had a copy of a statement where police dismissed the accusation 🙄
I don’t know if people are smug or just that naive about how certain claims get treated by law enforcement.
It’s ignorance
Yeah it's victim blaming. It's more easier said than done to speak against someone who harms you.
It puts the blame on the victim. It completely absolves anyone else of any accountability
It's a vicious cycle. Victims and survivors are less likely to speak up if the public defaults to shaming them.
Remarkably telling that her grown daughter is publicly seeking evidence against ruby. So tragic. More power to the daughter.
The entire genre of “momfluencers” needs to be eradicated from society.
Meanwhile a couple years ago her oldest daughter Shari made posts online adamantly defending her mother’s parenting. Now she’s suddenly switching up eh…
And trans parents
@@ShoyuRamenBreakingBad Is she "switching up", or is she a child who is waking up from her parents' brainwashing? Maybe have some compassion instead of judgement. We should be focusing on the amazing fact that she has realized the way she was raised was wrong. Many never get to that point.
@@ShoyuRamenBreakingBadWow, you're a fool.
The daughter and other family member stated they contacted local police and nothing happened. That is very very very wrong on all levels
it's Utah, and Mormons. Like Florida 2.0
Police are members of the church, the church runs the State government, Jodi exposes the church to criticism, the church blocks anything that criticizes it.
It's been that way since Brigham Young seized this land, and the church believes it belongs to them.
Police were called 15 times !!!
They tend to look the other way when it's people with money and nice homes.
The thing is, I hear that most of the police force is LDS faith, as is the parole board for that matter.
Do not burden the oldest daughter with the responsibility that is not hers. Being raised by a narcissist there are trauma bonds that have to be broken first. All the children are victims including her.
Exactly.
so shes upset cause the principal disagreed with the tiktok, so she punishes a child to teach her what not to do
Totally agree, we don’t know if Ruby punish siblings if a child is wrongdoing and by that they won’t say anything because they got scared that the siblings will be punished if they say anything.
Kate Gosselin is another narcissist mother, she punish the siblings if another child was wrongdoing and in the end poor Collin became the one that always got the blame
I wouldn't define mom as a narcissist, but rather a
MONSTER!!!
Exactly. It's weird that the reporter is lowkey victim-blaming the grown daughter for not speaking up.
When in fact, the grown daughter is a victim, too.
it’s just so sad bc we have literally been saying this for years and years, and we all got ignored. neighbors got ignored. everyone got ignored. these kids could’ve been safer so much sooner if the police and cps actually cared
And worse, others blindly defended
I wonder if a family intervention would have helped at all? I've heard of family interventions for drug abusers or alcoholics. I just can't see waiting around for CPS to intervene when the family obviously knew there was a problem. It probably wouldn't have helped but I would have tried or threatened or something. 🤔
Ruby's sisters tried to step in a few years ago, when they found out she was starting to work with Jodi. That is when Ruby cut off all ties with her family. It took Sherri about a year to heal herself, and seek help. She also started to reconnect with her aunts. The whole family did try to step in, but Ruby got pulled into Jodi, and that's when things really started to go down hill for her and the family members she could control. It's sad that this has happened, but it shows how easily people are sucked into ideologies of others, and end up harming themselves and others.
@@lauragaede5752 WOW!!! Well said! 👍😢
This is a big problem in our society in general. No one does anything. People in positions of power just sit there…I’m so over this kind of behavior…abusers everywhere, in jobs, schools, families…and nothing happens until it’s almost too late or is….
A religious narcissist. Very dangerous.
They really exist. My mother in law was both
@heatherangella7860 it's common in religion. A high percentage of all religion leaders are narcissists.
My mother and mother in law, different religions both narcissists. Hasnt been fun.
Quite common.
They really believe it's divine what they're doing and it's all religions
As a teacher of 25 years and a Mom of 3, schools do not let kids go hungry. They receive a sandwich, fruit, and Milk. And any teacher I know of will give a student lunch money, this woman is a monster. I hope this woman gets her children taken away from her and has a long prison sentence.
@@ciarat4646 Please see my response above. I think if the parents can't take care of the kids the community needs to step in. Of course not for mothers like this though.
@@lesap8889 there isn't always a safety net, some kids fall through the cracks, even if they're helped they will be traumatized for life.
When she started saying “I hope no one gives her food at school.” it made me absolutely sick. That’s so disgusting, hoping your child goes hungry.
She does not need to see the light of day ever. Somehow they need to put her away for so many years that she does not come out ever. It's also an example for other religious and non religious child abusers.
She was winning until she wasn't 🤟
The narcissism in this world is beyond outrageous.
Narcissism is a demon
Satan is the god of this world.
@@Your_pixels_are_showingstop blaming cartoon characters for serious human issues.
It's downright terrifying!
Just because you don't have any beliefs doesn't mean others don't. So don't be a narcissist.
Children learn what they live. The oldest daughter is the most courageous person I've seen in a while. Her brother escaping the wrath of their mother is another example of courage.
Clearly she is neurotic hot mess !
Yes, high fives to these kids. 🙌🏽
Ruby learned what she lived. More people need to be researching her own family and how she was treated and her siblings also treat their children.
The Son was always my favorite too. He always seemed scared though. Now I know why 😢
@@murderofcrows7738yep just like I rambled on about in my comment I too had a horrifically abusive home life and just as religious probably more so ……
She’s the kind of person who looses it if she can’t control everything and everyone around her. Very dangerous woman.
She should be having lotsa fun in Purgatory then, that is Purgatory Correctional Facility.
Sadistic, too.
The tiktok dance thing was a very good indicator of that. Good on that school for pushing back and protecting their students from fun haters.
Which means jail is her worst nightmare. She can’t control a single thing. I love that for her.
I would think that she and that crazy therapist would have butted heads. Both need to be in control.
The worst thing social services did, besides not listening to complaints, was leave a note on the door to give her some notice. That gave her time to coach the kids or fix things that she didnt want anyone to see. Idk the whole story but that stuck with me when they talked about the note
They always give a heads up to families who earn over a certain amount of money. If this was a trailer park family, the kids would have been taken away immediately.
@@bakedbeans9546 agreed. It's quite messed up.
Parents have zero right to withhold food or imprison their children. Mental cruelty is not the parents' right.
Ruby seems very sadistic, from what I have heard.
From every clip ive seen, shes smiling so hard at recounts of her children being punished. It’s like it brings joy to her.
@@lucy4155 it is genuinely sick. She revels in it.
Ruby does seem unhinged. But i think you'll find that parents do have the right do as they will with their own kids. Government taking kids away from their parents is most likely more traumatic
Which is why your kids will probably be the ones shooting up schools.
Yep…HYPOCRITICAL
child abuser!
Zero tolerance should be the norm for this type of cruelty and negligent denial!!!! I’m sooo angry 😡
Anyhoo…you have a great day, especially now the innocent children are free!🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
When you're in it as a kid, you have no idea how messed up things are. These kids have many years of therapy and healing ahead of them before things are resolved. Praying for the children 🙏
Yes, I thought everyone got beat with a belt buckle. I was so surprised.
True. It's going to take a lot of therapy.
If that! You dont correct and heal everything with therapy... If you're lucky you find a good one but it takes your entire life to correct what she damaged
Hey, you talk about me 😅
@@moniqueengleman873 same
Coming from an abusive home myself, and growing up in Utah , it doesn’t surprise me that the kids didn’t say anything. I had a lot of friends who seemed to have nice homes with nice families and I didn’t want to be embarrassed or taken away. I feel awful for these babies. It’s so confusing to be hurt by a parent, and even as an adult it’s been hard to talk about it and admit it. I just hope they all stick together❤
Fr Utah is so weird w stuff like this 😢
Don’t forget that morman religion plays a big part of that and its what most of Utah families believe in.
Thank you for sharing even though it’s hard to talk about. ❤️
Does the Mormon religion preach this kind of behavior?
@@elisabethklerks8703yes. People of color aren't desirable and women are slaves, daughters too.
I grew up in a house like this , I was the oldest and I worried if I left it would be harder for the other kids , but finally at 16 I left.
I’m so sorry that happened to you😢
Her daughter is SO brave for coming forward and bringing all of this to light. I can’t imagine how difficult that decision was for her to make, but she is a hero for doing what she did because she saved all of her siblings from that hellish environment.
And she probably loves her parents in spite of it all. It had to be a heart rending decision for her. She is willing to accept alienation and accusations of betrayal from many sides but rescuing her siblings was her heroic choice.
She didn’t bring it to light though it was the 12 year old son that went to the neighbors for help
Except she didn't bring it to light! The 12 ye old got out and got help and she's only speaking up now that her mom was arrested. Apparently she did try to report it but clearly didn't pursue it until something was actually done. I understand she was a victim too but how could you leave your siblings to deal with it and not constantly call authorities to help them once you got out
She did, no one listened to her@@kylejohnson8447
@@tinab8363 She, other family members, and neighbors have been trying to get police and CPS involved for years. It’s not her fault they chose to do nothing until the child begged for help. She’s not at fault here. She didn’t fail them or let this go. Law enforcement and CPS failed these kids while everyone tried to save them.
“Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child” I’m glad that the kids are safe.
This guy speaks facts. I didn't break away until I was 26 years old and only after my sister had been killed by our father. There is a reason the word "toxic" is used so often.
I’m so sorry you went through that ❤rip to your sister, it must be hard 😢
💐💝🕊💝💐
She was winning until she wasn't 🤟
I am soooo sorry that happened to you 😔
I'm so sorry, heartbreaking
The most disturbing thing about this is that these sadists had an enormous following.
@davidbennett9691 That's great. Now the enormous following will see the injustice of a mother stealing time away from her precious children to upload ridiculous mind numbing videos and parading her children for money.
I was put into foster care, the old lady would pad lock us in at night, no bathroom no nothing, but made me want to get away from everyone. Foster care and state run child services are just like everything else, far from perfect.
My mother used to make me go to the bathroom, then lock me in my room with a slide bolt. I used to have nightmares about a fire consuming the house and not being able to escape.
This is so wrong, and I am sorry these awful things were done to you. ❤
@@aviewer390How awful! Fire is a valid concern. When I was in elementary school, my home caught fire. We had to live in an apartment for a long time while the home was rebuilt.
Good grief! What is wrong with people? That's horrible treatment.
My mother used to rub jalapeño in my eyes and steal my eyeglasses. I was just a kid. As a child I kind of just fought in that moment, as an adult… I cry for the little girl that was put through that.
Why is it assault if I hit an adult, but it’s okay because it’s a child? Children are people and should have equal protection under the law. No one should be able to defend assaulting a child under the premise of “it’s my child I have a right…”
Exactly! Children shouldn't be treated as property! They have a right to not be hit by other people just like everyone else on this planet.
I agree- really disturbing to see this guy - who's obviously doing great work continue the normalising of hitting 'spanking' children.
They are not merchandise. They are people.
For some reason, in America, kids rate just above pets. Our state government child services should hire as many people as they need, and be given all the resources they require. Kids should be #1 in this country.
I totally agree.
Ruby has the craziest eyes I have ever seen. She is pure evil. I pray those kids heal. She is not fit for society and deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars!
She's unhinged and a danger to society. I'm disgusted seeing her face
I completely agree
I was thinking the same thing! She looks kinda crazy.
She may just do that.
Absolutely cuckoo!
These poor poor children. May they receive the kindness, love, healing, and truth they need.
I purposely do not follow family channels, because I hate how they expose their children, but I stumbled across one of her videos a few years ago and was shocked. Just to see how she treated these children, her body language, her voice, her facial expressions full of contempt, her crazy eyes told me this woman is a full blown psychopath. She enjoyed vilifying these kids, she enjoyed their fear, she enjoyed to have power over them. She is pure evil. She is the devil in person.
She is so shrill, I don't understand how she had any fans?
It's obvious she's at the very least a textbook narcissist and at worst, a sadist.
They exploit them for money. It’s just another form of child labour!
Monetizing children should be monitored by some agency. It exposes them to saturated social media and not only isn’t it child labor violations as the channels make money but and sickos.
I liked Shaytards, but that's about it
I agree with you i don't watch family's either I find it such a violation of the children privacy parent record some of their most vulnerable moments of the children its on the net for ever and when they become young teens and hanging with friends and they decide to google last names and OOOLPS THERE IT IS
This has been going on for YEARS with MANY people reporting it and bringing it up, why is it now JUST being handled!?
Excellent question
Couldn't hide it anymore so had to actually act it seems
because unfortunately sometimes cps doesn’t step in until it’s almost too late. that little boy escaping might’ve been the thing that saved him and his siblings life, so sad.
Sadly as we see time and time, the children have to save themselves.
That is a mighty good question, but it seems like she was pretty good at hiding reality when investigated. She’s a malignant narcissist & is massively controlling at the very least and no doubt has other psychological abnormalities like sadism, psychopathy etc. A lot of those people are very good at manipulating others & hiding who they really are.
I grew up in a house like this and it makes me so happy that finally these “religious” abusers are being help accountable
I’m sorry you went through this. I’m a Christian and I can’t imagine what she was doing. We treat everyone with love and respect and dignity, especially our children😢Hope you are healing now
SAME HERE! Victory for the children.
Let's keep it goin
Anytime you have sth bad and you add religion to it, the bad will turn evil
Religion is never for the betterment of anything
@@tazerdemt7354 hallelujah
The poor neighbour who helped this boy will have his own trauma to heal from now. 😞 So glad he was home!
This case just shows that it doesn't matter how many neighbours/ members of the public contact the authorities on your behalf, or how much video evidence the abuser puts online for all to see, it still takes years for anything to actually happen, it's insane, we need to be better as a society.
Apparently the children have to be traumatized for life before the system works. Meanwhile police are busting people for weed. That is more important to them.
Exactly!!! They say "neighbors kept aware of the situation, they called authorities multiple times and blah blah. As if it was a good thing that neighbors kept police up to date but the police did absolutely nothing and turned heads the other way. I hate this world..
I love anti-Western trolls on true crime TH-cam channels, you'd think they'd be a bit better getting rid of that garbage, but everybody is just as awful... evidently.
Better society...36 Million aborted and counting
don't hate the world....HATE those who did nothing but TURN THEIR HEAD @@alysonpena7645
“We used to handle it inside the family” is simply another way of saying, “We used to turn our heads and allow our daughters, sisters, mothers, etc. and their children to get beat up.”
exactly!! i was like uhhhh…..
Exactly. His talking points seemed a little weird throughout..
I think that was literally his point.
In this case it's the LDS church.
we used to suffer in silence.
Franke and her husband were terrible enough to those kids, but when she connected with that Jodi Hidebrand lady, she drank some sort of Kool-Aid and really went off the rails. Apparently, that Jodi lady was always bad news, way before partnering with Franke. She’s been destroying families for a while.
I don't like her vibe at all. Stern face and eyes.
I've a feeling they are lovers too.
Evil attracts evil.
@@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions I definitely got that vibe that they're lovers too
As much as I don't like Ruby, I despise Jodi since she's a therapist and acted unethical in so many ways.
At one point, the licensing body that governs her therapy license was so concerned about her practice that at one point they didn’t trust her to see clients alone
From personal experience when I threatened to tell on my parents to the authorities they told me “you’ll be taken away you’ll never see your siblings again and you’ll probably be hit and not fed” as if the same thing wasn’t happening at home but it still made me “act right” and not report anything. I know I was a child but it haunts me I didn’t help my little siblings get out of it. I feel so so much for the oldest sister. I’m sure she was forced to raise the littles when “mom” didn’t want to and it all broke her heart. It’s really hard to know what to do in situations like that. Even at 20. She clearly wasn’t prepared to take on real world problems so it must have been hard for her to rationalize and know what to do for her siblings :(( poor babies. This will 100% follow them for life
Sorry that happened to your family. Check out crappy childhood fairy.
Im sorry, I went through something similar
Similar not as bad as many others endured but it has affected my whole life at 56 I struggle to trust women for true friendship & men. I don't know what love & normal are supposed to be.
I'm so sorry. 💔
@@RhiceyHarieraryou must have been a Mormon
The police need to release the video of the arrest.
They may have. It seems like I saw it, but there's so much of this that its hard to keep up.
I agree
The guest said, "Thank God the neighbors didn't give up." It wasn't the neighbors who saved him, Sir, he saved himself!
Exactly!!
Also, the neighbors and family members didn't do all they could.
Exactly!!!
@@VioletJoyExactly! You don't stop until the children are safe! They have many adults that failed them.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves to haven a child!
Of course there would be someone reusing this old tired comment. We get it already. Ugh
I've never heard this saying before. Well said!
Absolutely ......
No every child doesn’t deserve parents.. there are sociopath kid too😅😂
Amen!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Disgusting and even more disgusting is that people followed her for parenting tips!
That's scary.
Well, it explains why my kids are so skinny.
Omg… exactly..!
2million followers😢
Terrifying. I read recently the connection to Jodi and Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow. What is happening?!
The brainwashing part is terrifyingly true. I had a friend who grew up in an abusive family and she would often talk about them like they were normal things parents do while we were just horrified. The normal parenting stuff like feeding us and buying clothes were seen as an above and beyond thing for her because she normalized being starved just cause she didn't clean the house...
Oh my lord I’m so sorry
36 Million aborted and counting
The adult child is only 20 and NOT the parent of her siblings. She HAD been calling CPS and the Law BUT they did NOTHING of measure to help those kids. Those kids broke free and got help themselves. Whoever is blaming the older child - shame. She did what she could. Her mom might have honestly killed her if she showed up and threatened to take the kids and the Mom was faced with being exposed.
Starving her children and placing them 4 hours away from her - the little boy was either in a “safe” room or near one. He escaped- hands taped & ran far to a neighbors house. The little girl was somewhere else in the house. They were NOT EVEN TOGETHER!! Bravo little boy for rescuing yourself & your sister.
The suggestion that Ruby had this happen to her as a child is completely ridiculous - Ruby’s entire family have been speaking out and trying to get child services to intervene for years.
From a perspective of child that grew up in a toxic household a lot of the reason you don't call CPS on your family is because you think they mean well enough, but you know what they're doing is wrong. You just feel safe with your parents because that's all you've known. I'm just now realizing that not everyone screams at the top of their lungs at everyone in their family.
I never called because I knew foster care would definitely be way worse.
Fear of being disbelieved and retribution by the parent when that happens. Ruby made a LOT of money exploiting her children, and could use it to intimidate authorities, neighbors, reporters, etc. She is a very disturbed, sadistic narcissistic individual. Disgusting that folks supported this: shame on them.
As a child who DID tell and got us put in foster care after my dad cornered and beat my little sister with a belt leaving bruises and welts, all that came from it was us getting returned to our home and being blamed for the whole ordeal because we "couldn't keep our mouths shut". Foster care sucked but at least the home we were put in wasn't terrible, they just told us we "probably weren't going home, they have seen cases like this and we shouldn't get our hopes up." LOL.
Craziest part is we WANTED to go back because we just felt wrong not being at home, only to go back and be labeled as "traitors".
@@upwardsandonwardshealing wow I am so sorry
nothing good comes out of telling CPS did same thing and it has been a whole 2 years of hate from my family and being made out as the crazy person who imagines things in the family @/go/hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UALV2LhCxiPDHzJzGxLQrZee
My mom wasn’t perfect, but she always kept us well fed. There’s something about denying children food that is just so evil! They need food to grow, denying them nutrition may effect their bodies permanently as in not growing tall to their full potential.
She looks like she has an unhealthy relationship with food. Maybe that's why she thought it was okay.
Food is one of the most important things a child needs to feel secure. Many children who were deprived of food and went hungry, either deliberately or due to poverty, are still affected even into old age. It’s very common for children who suffer that way to hoard food when they do have access to it, and some even continue the pattern into old age by always having something to eat, snacks and such, in their pockets and purses. It’s very sad.
Thank you for the input, I certainly didn’t know that.
It's crazy because I was also raised in a large mormon family and my parents utililized some of the same "parenting" tactics. I didn't realize how extreme some of these methods are (like witholding food) until I saw the internet react to this. It's helped me to feel justified that those "parenting" styles were not okay.
I hope you are ok ❤️
I hope that you have healed and are living your very best life. Interested if you left the church or if not, have you seen any improvement in this type of discipline?
Same question I would like to ask 🤔
@@janinecarr3805
You do know this is not a "mormon" style of parenting, right?
They’re way beyond not ok, passive lady.
My 18 year old daughter brought this mom and her family to my attention a couple of months before her arrest. She was actually concerned about the treatment of her kids and I said to her it’s probably all fake for follows. What I have learned from this as always listen to your children’s concerns. I’m heartbroken that I didn’t speak up.
Same my daughter kept saying something was wrong with her . I was like no but yep!!
I CANNOT believe that Dad didn’t get arrested too!! He’s clearly complicit with what she’s soing to the kids. It’s sickening that dad got the kids.. they’re still not safe!!!
Didn't they say he was also arrested? Or maybe in another video
He should leave well enough alone. LoL 😂. Start over with s new Mormon wife
Where do you get your information from? Because you are 100% wrong here he didn’t get the kids. Do you like to share misinformation on purpose? Are you a troll?
@@Shaolin91z
Or a non-religious wife! He'll have a shot at normalcy that way.
And I hope for the love of all that is held dear that those kids get an athiest family.
@@Shaolin91z
Or a non-religious wife! He'll have a shot at normalcy that way.
And I hope for the love of all that is held dear that those kids get an athiest family.
She will learn what its like when she goes to prison. Disgusting.
At least she will have food and not be malnourished in prison.
she wont get more than probation
that might be right, but I hope it's not case. But she is in prison now, so she gets a little taste of what it's like atleast! :D@@Ryan83728
Hahahahaha this brought a smile to my face. Try lying about your papers ruby, your famous, it's not gonna work 😂 silver lining for sure.
TH-cam needs to do something about these “family” channels
Yes, I agree! And it’s sad it’s not the first “vlogger” family that has been abusive.
@@shortie.2380at least it's the first vlogger that's been held accountable finally!
Demonetize them all, for starters.
Like what?
spoiler for ya, they wont do shiet
With holding food as punishment, telling her children that food is something they earn. That SHOULD be enough to get social services to have a serious chat with her LONGGGGG ago.
This woman saw her children as dollar signs. She is truly psychotic and I can’t believe people saw and new about this for years and something has FINALLY been done…
More worried about content and control and perfectionism in her children then being a good mother.
I remember seeing a video Ruby made on 8P & she said something along the lines of her biggest fear waking up everyday is not having content to video for their channel. She used those kids to fund her lifestyle yet those poor kids didn’t see that money. Her 2 youngest kids had Christmas taken from them! Her oldest son didn’t have a door or a bed for about 7mos & slept on a beanbag! Having a 6yo responsible for making her own lunch & if she didn’t, then she didn’t get lunch! She didn’t want the teacher giving her lunch “bc the teacher wasn’t comfortable” with it. Unreal.
The bravery of the child to run from the home seeking help when all they’ve ever known is punishment and fear. So glad the justice system finally stepped in, hoping the kids all find healing with time. So confused where the dad is in all of this though, he wasn’t charged but like… he stood by and watched this?
right. He should also be held accountable.
She out him out
All of the pictures of the children with huge smiles are very hard to look at. Me and my siblings grew up with a wicked stepmother, CPS called first to make an appointment?!! and we were all told to wear our "Sunday best". Before the woman came, our wicked stepmother told us not to say anything and smile!! It was all found unsubstantiated. :(
All of these children need so much love.
You'd think CPS would wise up. You'd think a perfect family would be a giant red flag
I can’t believe any attorney would want to defend her. It’s sickening that someone would defend her for a paycheck.
As much as I despise her, she does have the right to legal counsel, and someone has to step up to the plate.
Attorneys represent other people in court. How much defending is going on depends on the situation.
Dump Trump has an attorney.
Not only defend her but all these men are buying into her good looks and charms. It pays to be thin and pretty.
Breaks my heart to imagine a young child knocking on their neighbor's door and asking if they could play with their kids. They knew there were kids in that house and they just wanted friends and playmates. How isolated and desperate did that child feel to be brave enough and ask to spend time with their neighbor's kids?
This is truly so disturbing and horrific. 💔. I hope the children get the care they deserve and the love they deserve.
😂😂😂She is perfect, because in asia we will treate children like if they got low marks in exams 😊,
Everyone who watched 8 passengers knew this was coming. She treated her kids very very bad. I'm wondering were her oldest son is bc he had it bad. I hope he's okay.
Last I heard, Chad, the eldest son, is or has been living with his dad since Ruby kicked her husband out a year ago.
@@Mimi2thebestboyseverHe is living with friends not his Father. Kevin is just as guilty as Ruby. He always was an absentee father, cowardI say. Ruby ruled the roost.
@@dianeh.3327I hope this is true because Kevin is bad too.
Chad was amazing and such a normal teenager and Ruby controlled/manipulated and took so much from that kid. What a psychopath.. chad never forgive your mom! She treated you terribly
It's so distressing to hear people criticizing the oldest daughter. She deserves compassion, too.
I’m about to watch it and learn more about these kids because they had adverse childhood experiences and it will affect them as they get older. I am a human services graduate student and have been studying this subject extensively.
TH-camrs get their videos demonetized over pretty much nothing and then TH-cam turns this kind of family into millionaires. Um, TH-cam needs to do something to fix that. Therein lies a massive part of the problem.
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This is just like my mom. When I was a child she wouldn’t feed me when I was hungry, it was always go ask your father… so many beatings from both parents. Many nights left hungry, spent in an unfinished basement with no furniture, spiders everywhere, with the lights off as punishment, sneaking up the stairs or out of my bedroom for bread for dinner after everyone went to bed. Now as an adult out of the house they refuse to help if I’m In a financial bind. I wish I was loved by parents. I’m jealous of anyone who was raised in a loving house by parents that wanted children. I feel so empty inside. I’m an introvert because I’m so scared of being hurt by people.
As a mother I love you ❤ You deserve love. *hugs*!
The only person ho has to love you is YOU. Love yourself, heal..and never look back.
Wtf this is horrible 😢
Find a strong community where everyone checks up on each other and is genuine, it takes time to learn to trust but with the right people, love is enough to change your heart. I really recommend an athletic group, artistic group, something like that. Obviously don't just blindly trust anyone, but when someone does what they say they will over and over, it's okay to let them in a little.
My mother would tell me that we have two families: the one we came from and the one we create. And it doesn't always mean a spouse and children of our own. Our created family includes friends and community. I hope you find your second family out there. They're waiting for you. ♡♡♡
Every single cent that she has made off of those children she should have to split equally amongst the children alone. They get that money when they turn 18 to live the life that they want out of the hands of that monster. Everyone of those children should sue their parents please talk about that
@4dogs999, I think she gave most of the money to Jodi.
Social Services are failing the children through out our country. I am tired of the excuses!!
The image at the 5 minute mark with her and her son broke my heart. That little boy suffered so much at the hands of her. He saved his siblings. He’s a real hero. But that picture, they look so happy. Just a reminder that you never truly know what goes on behind closed doors…
The thing is, this is their normal. You don't realize how messed up things are until you are grown up and get out. I loved my parents very much and miss them every day since they have died but I had no clue how dysfunctional and toxic my upbringing was until I left with the man I've now been with for 11 years. Sure, I knew other families were more on the normal side but I didn't realize exactly how abnormal and sad my raising was until I got out. It really hit me when I introduced my fiance to my family and he was very scared and uncomfortable but it was my normal and the sad truth is that this is their normal. They likely didn't even expect all this to happen when he went to get help. He just wanted some food and water. He had no clue that the cops and cps would get involved because a) they failed him every time people called before but more importantly b) this was just their life in his eyes. It was his normal. Just another day. The extent of how horrifying this truly was will hit him as an adult and he'll need a lot of help when the realization hits
That looks more like a "smile like you mean it or don't eat tonight" kind of thing.
Yes you never know what goes on behind closed doors
It's possible they were genuinely happy when the picture was taken. Apparently things took a turn for the worse when they got involved in a cult/program called Connections run by the woman Jodi who was also arrested. The cult encouraged them to cut off family members and had really awful beliefs and practices etc
Amen!
Sobbing over a flashmob, but starvation is fine.
Any channels that includes minors as part of the 'cast' should be demonetised on all platforms.
Absolutely!
Child labor and exploitation.
Ruby's 3 sisters have their very own family channels, that's why they talked about her arrest as little as possible.
I only know of two sisters. Ellie and Julie.
100%. Consenting adults only. Child actors are very closely monitored and even then awful crap has happened to a lot of them. TH-cam encourages these narcissistic parents to further exploit their children and there are no parameters or limits whatsoever!
One of the things that truly disturbed me was when she threatened to cut the head off the child's stuffed animal with scissors. Children's toys feel very much the same as other people to them. It's terrifying to a child to even fathom such a thing happening!!! My step dad used to threaten to chop my rice Paddy shoes in half. From that moment I feared him until I was old enough to literally kick him in the privates during a commonplace beating
The moment that an abused kid fights back changes EVERYTHING! I was around 11, and grabbed my bipolar mother's hands so she couldn't keep slapping me (she was a 90-lb alcoholic). She never physically attacked me again, but of course the psychological abuse never ended until the day she died. That day, a massive weight was lifted; I only wish I didn't have to live over 40 years poisoned by her venom.
She's been trying to protect her children from the world when all this time they needed protection from her.
This parenting group she's in isn't about being a parent it's about controlling children and feeding their egos.
There are thousands of Mormon parents raising their children like this because of that despicable book.
The authorities involved in this case should be held accountable. Considering the amount of complaints made by neighbors. Their reckless conduct could have had tragic results.
Absolutely!!!
She didn't really want the best for her children. She wanted the best for her!
CPS needs to be held accountable for not doing something sooner. They were contacted multiple times by the daughter and neighbors and people that watched the videos - and they did NOTHING!
Everyone in CPS who touched this case needs to be fired if they have not yet been. Same for any police or school personnel
@@susancook1448 absolutely!!! And never be allowed to work in another position that gives them power over the outcome of children’s lives! Wishing for them to be jailed is ridiculous but I sure wish they would be.
I’m 56 and I’m still fearful of my mother….so Cherie the eldest child is a victim too …. and is a very brave person to do what she did and I’m proud of her for doing what she did to protect her siblings.
What about the father, Kevin Franke. Where was he through all of this? Did he never visit his children?
The dad is in a few videos just smiling in the background. He must of known.
Dad was home counting the $$$
Being upset and angry about a song choice for a flash mob when you’re restraining and starving your children is really F’d up. I hope they lock her and her husband up!
We absolutely need to be empathetic to the eldest daughter. She's still young and just because she is classified as an "adult" doesn't mean she magically knows a different perspective to life. Instead of shame her, support her. Bobby Chacon has great insight and empathy. Well said.
Nor it is the eldest sibling's responsibility to rescue her siblings. It has probably taken college for her to see just how weird and abusive was the family environment. And where was the dad in all this?
cps needs to take their job and childrens lives way more seriously
@@jodiforeman3314 Could not agree with you more. A big part of the problem is understaffing due to budget constraints, and resultant burnout due to social workers being overwhelmed. If children are society’s greatest treasure, then our governments, whether local, provincial/state, or federal, need to step up and do right by them. 😡
well said
older daughter DID reportS to authorities! no removal of younger kids by authorities. girl tried
Calling the police in a community of 98% Mormon on a Mormon will get you nothing! I believe everyone tried from neighbors to family, all fell on deaf ears. DCF has to see something wrong in a home visit. House was spotless.
To bad utah is 62% lds
Right, Mormons stick together. Turn a blind eye...
@@citygirlingraham I dont
this is not true at all. I've lived there. When the police are called, they don't discriminate based on religion. That's nonsense.
Exactly. If you are being mistreated, expose it on social media. If you show what is happening, people on the outside will pressure authorities to deal with it. If you are not safe, get out no matter what the abusers threaten to do if you leave. Get out, speak up, testify in court, and help stop them from ever doing it again.
Don’t make excuses for the abuser. She has heard YES to much and has gotten away with it. Her daughter did try to get help but no one would help . The family and viewers have been reporting her but the authorities seem to look the other way when they are wealthy , are a semi celebrity or whatever the reason is the “law” chose to look the other way.
No its the LDS WAY...
Couldn’t agree more.
@@judygillespie3242oh. Latter day saints- flds? Scary... scary. Scary😢 great on those brave kids escaping!❤
It’s protect the church from looking bad mostly IMO
The entitlement and narcissism is rampant in this woman. She needs jail time and her kids taken away! Sick woman!
This 'family values' series turned out to be worse than the Duggars from '19 Kids and Counting'
Duhhh the neighbors were expecting the kids come out and body bags for god sake!!
I’ve been watching them since I was in middle school- I’m 20 now. Thank GOD they finally caught her. As I grew up I started to realize how mistreated those kids were. My heart breaks for them and I hope they find the help they need ❤️.
I am a survivor of grooming, SA, mental abnse, emotional abnse, etc. for most of my childhood to mid teens. I remember my abnser told me that if I ever told, that they would harm my family and EXACTLY how they would do it. People don’t speak out to protect others and genuine fear of the consequences.
Sorry you had to go through that. I pray you live your best life despite of what you went through.
True. I knew someone whose incestuous father repeatedly threatened her with, " if you tell anyone, I'll leave your mother and sisters. They'll have no home and no food because of you." So she didn't tell & ran away when she was 15 or 16. Her mom & sisters, school counselors, law enforcement, etc perceive her as a wild rebellious teen. Her dad would also create situations to set her up to look like a liar. He'd hide an empty Swiss cheese wrapper in her room. When the family wanted to make Sunday brunch, no one could find the Swiss cheese & everyone denied eating it. Well, what did a house search reveal? Then he abusively spanked her off & on for hours for lying.
The lack of love and awareness is so horrific that its hard too watch. Especially as a behavioral therapist who works with empathy with kids on the spectrum!!
Ruby and her husband used multiple questionable methods when raising those kids. Withholding food is only one example. Cancelling Christmas for the youngest kids as punishment or removing someone's bedroom for 7 months have been other instances. The husband agreed to these punishments so why should he get custody of the kids? The sisters knew as well (even before Jodie came into the picture) and they seemed fine with it?
I understand this from first hand experience. My older siblings left and moved on. They tried to look after me, but they had their own lives and we had all been brainwashed. It was hard to know what was "normal" and every child wants to think their mom knows best. My mom is a covert narcissist, constantly plays the victim and makes everyone around her want to help out feel bad for her. I had to overcome people pleasing and co dependent habits in my late 20s that attracted toxic people into my life similar to my mom. Some of my siblings still have serious mental health issues, but our family is broken because of my mom and most likely from generations before her. But Christ truly changed my life. This cycle has been broken in my line of the family. By having kids, God really opened my eyes to how unhealthy my mom is because I would never do the things she did to my own children.
It sounds like we had the same mother!
We did
Glad Christ saved you and brought you peace! You’re breaking the generational curse, way to go!
We had the same mom! I pray for my younger sister. I tried to help as much as I could, offered her a room in my home but she always refused. I took her on a trip with my kids and she had this big outburst and was saying things just like our mom, that’s when I realized I just can’t save her. She’s 19 now so I’m hoping she gets away. I just can’t have all that around my own kids. I don’t even let my kids near my parents for long periods of time. I don’t want them to normalize all the toxic behaviors.
That's unfortunate. The most important relationship you will have in your lifetime is the one with your siblings. Parents should guide these relationships, not put a sibling favorite in place. It teaches love and respect among siblings. I feel your pain, and understand your reasoning completely, though.
She's definitely a psychopath. That clip at the beginning proves it
I too grew up thinking yelling to get your way was just how everyone lived - up until I somehow saw how detrimental it was to MY kids - my son was 2, my nephew was 4, they were in the back seat giggling , goofing around and I was extremely stressed out due to just having scraped the side of my car on a fence, so not the k I ds fault but I began screaming at them to shut up, blah deblah blah blah, I couldn't seem to stop yelling when I glanced up and aaw them just staring at me with a look of fear in their eyes and tears streaming down their little faces - it stopped me cold and right then I swore I would never ever yell at them like that again - that was 44 years ago and I've (pretty much) kept my word!!! There were a few times like when they were teenagers that I got after them but they DID deserve a tongue lashing a time or two in their teens, other than that, I successfully kept my anger under control, I loved my mom very much and I know she had a highly stressful job in an era when most women stayed home after marriage and children
she is completely nuts.
She doesn’t deserve to be called a “mom”
Ironic that she speaks of morality after treating her children like animals.
Anyone that presents a perfect picture for all of social media is a liar. Be very suspicious of people who pretend to have it all together all the time.
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My daughter watched her videos and said that using the bathroom was a privilege they had to pay money to use it. Something is way off here. She is a monster not just a narcissist
If child protective services/police are called or a wellfare check is called. And there is no answer on multiple occasions. There should be some type of "get back to us. In 24 or 48 hrs or a warrant will be issued."
ESPECIALLY IF THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE CALLS
cps is underfunded. theyre not gonna get involved unless things are serious. and like someone mentioned, when cps arrives, its not hard to have all the kids dress up and appear normal.
@@cerebrumexcrement Change my comment to say CPS or police
The body language between the 'Mom' and the business partner feels like there is more there. Furthermore, her moral outage at the flash mob yet she starves and mistreats her children is laughable. I hope her children have the support that they need and that she and her 'partner' go to jail for a very long time.
Didn’t the older daughter remark that they tried to get law enforcement and protective services involved for years and nothing was done? Instead of questioning why the oldest child didn’t help question those who were alerted and did nothing…
I’ve followed the nightmare that is Ruby for so many years it’s good to see something is finally be done and she’s been exposed
I know they mentioned the father being kicked out by this despicable woman, but what role if any did the father play in all this? Clearly he had to have some knowledge of what was going on? Disgusting all around
I hope he doesn't get custody of the kids. he was on board with everything they did on youtube and then just abandoned them. kids don't become malnourished overnight.
It said he was kicked out a year ago...still, he should have intervened.
It seems the authorities did nothing when the neighbors complained.
@@xoch1717 he didn’t abandon them when he left he tried to take all the kids with him but the Court wouldn’t allow that and left them with their abuser. Luckily for Chad he was old enough to say he would rather be with his father and when he did he was able to live a normal life. Sadly, the other kids that was left with ruby didn’t get that chance but hopefully now they will.
I hate that everyone is JUST focusing on this woman...please include the complaint FATHER! He is just as GUILTY!
Thats what i was tginking. What about the dad??? Its strange he is not mentioned.
theyre separated. theres a reason why the business partner was arrested with the mom.
@cerebrumexcrement yes but when he was with her, he supported his wife's methods.
Dad may be just as much a victim as the kids...
@@michellem.8443 Was he a victim when he was complicit and agreeing with what she was doing? When he was with her he supported what she did. He was on her side. He's an enabler and an abuser.
I can't wait for the inmates to find out what their charges are. The worst thing you could do is hurt a child and end up in prison. These 2 disgusting beings will get theirs.
Women don't generally attack each other in prison the way men do.
She may have a hard time. I heard the Turpin lady was beat up in prison.
@@mygirldarbyOh trust me, the woman’s prisons here handle people like Pearl and will not take kindly to these two POS woman!
@@mygirldarbyit's actually much worse. Look it up.
@@mygirldarbyMaybe it depends on the prison & how well its run.
5:29 So, if Ruby's husband/ father of the kids got kicked out by her. He should have fought for full custody of their kids and reported her to the cops. 😢