The History of LOVE Part One |
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- The story of Love tracks the transformation of folk rock into something more refined without losing its rough edges. Arthur Lee steers this group through many twists and turns as this part one video focuses on their formation and first two albums.
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So happy you did this. It's a shame that most people don't know about Love, then again it's fun to introduce it to people and see the joy on their faces, followed by bewilderment... "how the hell did I just discover this now?!"
Thank you, Jim!
I know.. don’t forget it
This is the only group I know that has connections to the fifth dimension, and the Manson family!
Dennis Wilson flirted with disaster with the Manson family taking over his home after he was lured into bringing a couple of Manson's female followers in for some lascivious fun. He even took a Charlie-written song called "Cease to Exist" and converted it into "Never Learn Not To Love". With some lyrical tweaking and some great harmonies (as always) with a better arrangement, this song is actually pretty good!
I love that The Mike Douglas Show had the Beach Boys on when they were promoting their "20/20" album and Dennis got the rare opportunity to be the front man (with Carl sitting in on drums although it may just be miming to a track they recorded earlier with DW on the stool). Brian will always be the greatest songwriter in the band, but Denny put out some great tracks as well and his "Pacific Ocean Blue" LP is by far my favorite solo Beach Boy album. He was definitely a bit more experimental than the other songwriters in the BBs although his greatest song is probably the amazing ballad "Forever".
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The Manson family were drug dealers to the rich famous music and film industry types. If you really look into it thats what fueled some of the murders. That and jealousy manson had over his Musical aspirations being spurned after he thought that Dennis Wilson and Terry Melcher were going to help him get a record deal. The house on celio drive where Sharon tate and Abigail folger were murdered was Terry Melchers former residence, he had just moved only a few months prior. Alot of the devil worshipping cult that was bent on an apocalyptic race war narrative, while Manson did use to manipulate his followers, was not the primary cause and was mostly made synonymous with the family through Vincent bugliosi's use of it at the trials.
@@ronbo11 He flirted with nearly everyone.Theres a coloured clip of him trying to ask this ungoodlooking young women she wasnt fat but not the type he would go to her when normally even if she isnt nice she goes to him but Dennis got turned down
I love Love! Can't wait for part 2. We had the great experience of seeing Arthur Lee and Baby Lemonade in NYC doing Forever Changes and it was great!
I bought Love's second single "7 and 7 is" It's flip side was "No 14". they were playing with your mind even back then.
In an issue of Teen Beat from 1967, an interview with Jim Morrison asked what his favorite band was, and he said Love.
I love Love. I'm so glad they got to that name before anyone else.
My favorite band of the 60s! Of course “Forever Changes” is a masterpiece but, the debut, Da Capo, Four Sail, & Out Here are all excellent albums. On a reading note, the drummer Michael Stuart wrote a fantastic book about his time in Love & the Sons of Adam.
Yes, I have Michael's book and I used it for some of my research.
Real to reel in 74 , not bad.
Nice job. I just saw Love(Baby Lemonade and Johnny Echols) at the Whisky AGoGo for their venue’s 60th anniversary. They had a four piece orchestra to do “Forever Changes” in its entirety. What a show! I thought “My Little Red Book” and “7 and 7 is” were the highlights. Johnny Echols sang “Signed DC” very well, never my favorite song but great that night . ’“Forever Changes” is probably my all time favorite album. Two days later Robby Krieger played there and it was even better. He’s coming back in July to do “The Soft Parade”. I”ll be there.
I saw Robby at the Whisky on Jim Morrison birthday back in 2021 -Great Show!!! (The first live show I went to after the pandemic, it was such a relief)
Robby and his band are always a treat. Hard to beat those songs and the clean sound.@@erniericardo8140
I never got the hype with Billy Preston. Never liked the man!🫤
Bryan Maclean is the older brother of Maria McKee of Lone Justice
She stole my heart on that debut Lone Justice album and I kept following her solo career for as long as I could find her albums. Bryan and Maria are two great songwriters and she's got a national treasure voice!
Yeah. I was Lone Justice fan --- went to two of their concerts.
That’s wild. There’s got to be a considerable age difference.
@@nitedreamer23not anymore. Sadly.
I was so fortunate to see Arthur Lee on February 28th 1970 at the Roundhouse London, during his Love Four Sail tour he was in fine form and his band were excellent too! It was a magical gig. Some of his European tour was recorded live too! Also performing that day was The Crazy world of Arthur Brown a real showman 😊
This band is HOF worthy. Being from LA I've heard their music practically my whole life.
But is the hall worthy of them...and so many others
I’m amazed they aren’t in the HOF but then again the Monkees aren’t either so to hell with that institution.
@@teddydog6229 AMEN!
Appreciate the history Professor! I grew up in the 70s and saw their records in the cutout bins but never really knew the story with these guys.
Super nice to see Love being covered. Really looking forward to Part 2, the Forever Changes LP and its aftermath.
P.S. 7 and 7 Is, is my favorite rock song ever. I was in HS in SoCal, 66-67 and Love was kind of an underground group. Thank you.
Thanks for featuring Love Matt, one of my favourite bands. I saw the current incarnation of Love with Johnny Echolls recently here in the UK and it was absolutely joyous. Arthur had been at the same venue with the same band a few years ago, and that was someone who I never thought I would see live, and in a small space too. They have always had a following here, and I am sure you will mention that Forever Changes was more successful here, largely due, I think, to the DJ John Peel.
I still listen to the Vindicator album !
Who's first three albums are the best. These guys are definitely in the conversation:
Love
Da Capo
Forever Changes
I am so thrilled you touched the "Love Chapter"...Can't wait for part two!
These shows are so good. Thank you sincerely for taking the time it must take. I was 10 in 1968 but I was a very "young" kid. I LOVED The Beatles and mom & dad bought me all of the records but I was more likely to prefer Monkees over Doors at that time, so I never even knew bands like LOVE. I can put myself into my place in time when these things are going on, per your stories. Kind of re-living my youth :) Thanks again.
My pleasure. I'll be working on part two over the weekend 🙂
First heard about Love while reading No One Her Get’s Out Alive in 1982. Didn’t hear them until I bought Forever Changes cassette in London during Spring Break. Got DaCapo and 1st album a few months later on LP. Each album blew my mind in a different way. Great post!
About the same year, the music papers were big on the Liverpool scene and Julian Cope went on about Love all the time.
I never heard of Love. I was a kid when the Laurel Canyon sound was big, and I was a Beatles fan. (You mean there were other groups making music in the 60s???) This is very interesting Matt. Good musical history lesson as always.
I really dig your choice of Love for a bio. An amazingly talented band with a huge eclectic style led by the eccentric Arthur Lee, Love should have been THE great L.A. band. Thank you for your usual steller effort Matt, and I look forward to part 2.
This band & its origins are fascinating. I never knew about this John Echols Band with notables like Billy Preston, Maralyn McCoo, Arthur Lee. And even Hendrix! This is absolutely fascinating, and theh were all so talented. I can't wait to learn more!❤
The Doors 1966- we want to be as popular as LOVE.
That quote is what turned me on to Love.
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No band ever summed up the darker elements of the 60's dream more than Love with such genre bending amazing music, plus they all looked cool! Had no idea they played in Texas...
The velvet underground.
@@jazztheglass6139 True but their music was far simpler overall and they were from NYC which already had a dark side.
@@markeggins890 Always liked the band Love, I got into them same time as the Velvet Underground ( early 1980's ). Found out recently one of the band members is Maria McKee, ex Lone Justice lead singer. She had a big hit a few decades ago called Show me Heaven. Hell of a singer, fine songwriter
She is the half-sister of Bryan MacLean (1946-1998), one the guitarists in Love @@jazztheglass6139 but I don't believe she ever played with them.
The Chitlin Circuit, The California folk-rock scene, The Troubador on Sunset Strip, their time as studio musicians...these musicians all paid their dues & had great music backgrounds.
" BOOM-BIPP-BIPP-BOOM-BIPP-BIPP-YEAH !!"
EXPLOSION !
If ya don't know Love then ya don't know love.... can't wait for part 2!!!!
Ronnie Haran was also in an episode of Cheyenne with Clint Walker. She took the back cover photo for Forever Changes too.
I discovered Love through an interview I heard with Robert Plant. Forever Changes is just the best.
Unique sound that caught the time perfectly. Great music that stands the test of time.
Growing up in the '70s this band passed me by. I did hear covers of '7 and 7 Is' by The Ramones and Alice Cooper and 'My Little Red Book' by Toni Basil and maybe Manfred Mann. This history of Love is most welcome.
Those first three Elektra albums are terrific and then the next one "Four Sail" was also really good. After that it's much more hit or miss. It's sad to think of them screwing up their career but at least we have their albums. Rock on, Matt!
I've been waiting for you to do a history on Love, probably the most underrated group of the 60s. Forever Changes is an absolute masterpiece, up there with Pet Sounds and Smile.
Top five in the greatest bands of the 60s. It's also hard to find an LP from any period of popular music better than Forever Changes.
IMO. A big difference between LA and SF bands was that that LA bands tended to make more interesting albums, while SF bands tended to be more oriented towards playing live (and better at it imo). This made SF bands more cohesive and less likely to break up in the short run. I think you can hear the difference on the MP tapes.
I think you're right re: the live aspect. San Fran - excellent live, LA - excellent in the studio.
Great video once again. Looking forward to part 2 as usual!
Just a simple request. Could You Please consider doing a walk through of all your Albums. It would be so Awesome to see what you have. Thank you!!!
I may do that. You are not the first to request that.
Knew about it before, but every time I'm reminded of that early Arthur Lee/Jimi hook-up ...tbh words fail me. Always love the clarity of your histories, regardless of whether it's something I've never heard of or like today one of my all time faves.
Thanks for that nice compliment, shadow.
Great review Matt.I love this band.I remember their album "Forever Changes" it reach no.40 from the Rolling Stone magazine from the year 2003,of 500 greatest albums of all time.A masterpiece.
Love Arthur Lee
Thanks for doing a dive into Love, who have been a favorite of mine since I bought the first album at a flea market for a dollar as a 14 year old (because I thought the looked cool on the cover). I agree with you on Revelations which weakens what could have been their best album. Looking forward to Forever Changes and beyond. Arthur Lee looks to have been his own worst enemy. Cheers.
Good to see you are covering Love who are under rated - have to say the song ‘My Flash on you’ from their debut album is a garage classic and was covered by some garage bands
I have their Best of Love compilation and it's great. One of the best groups of the sixties!✌️
Given that I know absolutely nothing about this band outside of ‘Forever Changes’ then this episode has been way more interesting and enlightening than I expected. As always, great stuff from this channel.
Thank you, navillus - that is very nice of you to say.
Matt, I really enjoy your videos, and I’m glad to see this one on Love!
I saw Love and Arthur Lee live in 2003 at Royce Hall, UCLA, and it was a fantastic show. He performed every song from the “Forever Changes” album, complete with strings and horns, and the band sounded great.
underrated group
Well done! I'm in my mid-fifties and have been a big fan of Love and Lee for at least forty years and I learned quite a few things from your commentary that I didn't know before.
Excellent upload.I bought a Love compilation in 1982 when i was 15 and was knocked out by their strange at times, beautiful music.
My Flash on You is GREAT, that fuzz bass! But yeah, I guess it's my favourite version of Hey Joe 😂
Blown away by this album when I bought it at 15 (in the 80s) and I thought it was like The Byrds clashing with the Stones. I say clashing because of its explosive nature!
Absolute top band!!!
All you need is LOVE ❤🎶🎶🎶
Seven and seven is, is one of the best rock songs ever!
One of the most interesting covers of their material is when the great European rock band, UFO covered “alone again or.”
One of my favorite (lesser known) American sixties band--awesome stuff, Matt. As you may know, Henry Vestine, mentioned near the start of this video, later ended up with what in my opinion was one of the best white blues groups around in the 60s, Canned Heat. It'd be nice to see you cover them at some point.
Thank you, Christopher. Canned Heat is on my very long list 🙂.
This is so cool. So glad you're covering this band. Can't wait for more.
Interesting that Stephanie (Stephanie Knows Who) was dating Arthur Lee but later dated Bryan Maclean. The lyrics from Da Capo track “The Castle” contain the line “A I love, B I love, so hard to choose”. Possibly referring to the same scenario?
I was born in 1960 so I was a little girl but I do remember "My Little Red Book" which got alot of airplay on the radio where I grew up (central California). I never knew the name the band until now. I think Arthur Lee's singing voice sounds an awful lot like Thin Lizzy's Phil Lynott, another black man who sound white (actually Phil had an Irish mother).
My favourite band ❤😊
Much love to Don Conka, as written, signed D.C.
Is he alive?
@@jamesmack3314 No.
so is Johnny Echols the last surviving member?
@@jamesmack3314 Yes, and he's still playing Love music. Michael Stuart-Ware and Alban "Snoopy" Pfisterer are also still alive.
@@NewFalconerRecords thanks I wonder how those two guys are holding up obviously they’re elderly men at this stage
Oh, what could have been if Love had played at the Monterey Pop festival. Then again, Arthur Lee might have held out allowing the Filmed performance of the band to make the D.A. Pennebaker Documentary.
Excellent topic- Lucky to have come across the music of Love as a kid in the 70's, Looking forward to Part II
I really dug their cover of Hey Joe.
Love's version is the best compared to Hendrix, The Byrds and The Seeds.
@@erniericardo8140The Leaves had the first (only?) hit of it. Love the fast way of doing it. Everyone now only does it as a copy or homage to Jimi.
@@389383 Ah Yes The Leaves!!! -I meant The Leaves👍 got confused with Nick Caves band.
Thanks for doing this Matt! I have to be honest, I knew very little about Love, or their music, other than the more popular songs. You’ve really done the research here and laid it all out for us newbies. I’m definitely going to do some exploring of their music more so! Thank you buddy. Matt
You'll love this group. Rhino has a good comp on vinyl.
They were well known in LA, very popular in LA and the West Coast.. most people on the east coast didn't know much about them
Always very popular in Europe.
Matt, your deep research and insights are incredible! Having just re-watched The Trip recently, was blown away to learn Lee lived there awhile, wild.
Such a cool looking house with the indoor pool- an ideal place for a Trip (LOL)
Awesome choice! Side 1 of Da Capo is in contention for my favorite single side of any 60s record. Great video, and I’ve already learned a lot of things about them I didn’t know. 😁👍🏼👍🏼
Wow Matt the moment we all been waiting for..."LOVE".... My all-time favorite garage/Psych Band. I'm sure you'll come up with some interesting facts about this phenomenal band. I will definitely stay tuned in 😎👍🏻
Bravo, Matt 👏 I was excited to see you were tackling this Band's history and you didn't disappoint, thoroughly impeccable as usual, I'm highly anticipating part 2...
Thanks Lee. I'll be working on part two over the weekend.
In my opinion it was one of the best groups in music of the US . I saw Arthur Lee playing in Utrecht with the group baby limonade .
Thank you for covering this band. A friend turned my head turned my head toward this band. Arthur Lee is one of the more overlooked writers stylistic players of this era. My friend Cliff turned me onto "Forever Changes". I was aware of the singles previous to the release that album but that album convinced me this was something different.
Forever Changes👍❤️
❤Yes, Forever Changes, one of the best albums ever made. Every song on it is great! (Hard to believe it came out so long ago. Summer of '66, was it?) And Arthur has one of the best voices. Younger music fans have a real treat (and surprise) waiting for them when they finally hear it.
Thanks for this. Love is probably my favorite American band of that era (which, of course, means of all time). Can't wait to hear Forever Changes ;-)
Another great profile of another great band!
I loved Love -- went to two of their concerts way back in the day in Los Angeles.
Some of the music from that late 60's "folk rock" movement sounds dated and goofy now, but Love holds up very well. They had an artistic, earnest vibe.
Yes, there is a freshness to their material.
Great one, Matt. I've been waiting for you to do the Love story. Can't wait for Part Two.
This is an excellent band history, Matt! Hearing the Bryan MacLean album ‘Ifyoubelievein’ was a revelation to me. It is quite clear that Arthur aspired to the writing/aesthetic that Bryan brought to the group. Bruce Botnick was absolutely spot on!
if lou adler was trying to impress shelly fabares, i absolutely can't blame him. you don't have any posters of her, do you?
Great. I've been hoping you would cover this band. I always dug Arthur's voice.
Lou Adler connections..Grass Roots name..association with Little Richard. This is quite a story!
Love this band ❤❤❤❤
Fantastic episode, Can't wait for the next! 💫
After following your channel since the pandemic, you've highlighted a band I've never heard of! Well done! (your Cowsills video got me on a mini-Cowsills kick)
Loved this. I live in the UK and I'm sure I bought the first three records in the order they were released, I definitely had the 1st one in 1966. I dont think it was an import, well not according to the guy who ran the Left Bank shop in Exeter. To me they never got anywhere near Forever Changes again and although I bought the next 2 or 3 I never played them much preferring to return to the first 3 (minus Revelation). Glad I've discovered this channel, look forward to more.
Thanks for that info, Roger - much appreciated.
Matt...youve knocked it out of the park AGAIN!!!! 😊 one of my favorite groups- you rock sir...please do a video on Craig Smith and Penny Arkade!! Im going to keep bugging you lol
I have been waiting for this one, Brother... I like your treatment of MacLean. He always gets overlooked. Arthur Lee is da man, no question... But MacLean was equally Da Man !
Ooh, excited for this! A favorite band of the era.
Man your channel is absolutely amazing! Def one of my fave musical resources as a fan of 60’s music! I could only hope to have my channel be half as good as this! You’re so well spoken and the facts are spot on! Love it! Please keep on truckin’!
Now to Love. One of my top tier favorite bands from that era and I so wish they had been as big as The Doors but for a few critical business decisions. We still have the music Thank you so much for what you do here! Peace ✨✌️👽✨
I appreciate that and I will check out your channel as well!
@@popgoesthe60s52 His channel is really good ✅️
I aways get the first and second album confused because of the similar cover. So I’m sure that didn’t help them. Great band so glad you’re doing a band history on them.
Hey Matt! This is a great pick for your
documentary series. Another band to add to my record collection. Liked what I listened to. Love (no pun intended) that we’re getting back to the LA bands!
Forever Changes - my fav album of all time, thanks for this Matt.
Exactly, since I discovered it in 1986.
The Stones use of the "Comes in Colors" lyric is pretty blatant, but has anyone else noticed how similar the flute/harpshicord flurry on said track at 1:30 is to the opening organ riff of The Doors' "Light My Fire"?
I have been binge watching your channel!!!! Just recently watched your interview with May Pang. What a delightful start to my morning with your Love video❤. Your videos are so well researched . 🌺🌺🌺btw I discovered this channel just after purchasing tix for Neil Young and Crazy Horse in VA. 😊
Welcome, Uma! Glad you found me 🙂
One of my favorite band ! And I'm hurry to see Part Two because "Four Sail", "Out Here" or solo album 1972 "Vindicator" are great ! And 1971 sessions released on Sundazed "Love Lost" are fantastic ! And the beautiful lost album "Black Beauty" recorded in 1973 before "Reel to Real" and released a few years ago. Great choice Matt ! Thank you again for your work !
Thanks, baron!
“Red Telephone” rocks
I love this band and, of course, Forever Changes.
In the eighties, Bryan McLean stopped by a rehearsal place my band was using and he we were introduced to him. We often played 7 and 7 is and we got to play it for him. He was so nice. He said, "You play it better than we did. Man, I'm glad you guys weren't around in the 60's!" We didn't suck, but we weren't better than Love, either.
From all I've read and heard. Arthur Lee was his own worst enemy and a bit arrogant. He's not entirely to blame for the classic lineup breakup, but he played a big part.
Thanks for sharing!
Signed DC from their first album is one of the best songs on it. An ode to the drummer who left because of his heroin habit.
Great work!
When I heard Love front-man Arthur Lee was playing the intimate CBGB’s Gallery in the early-90’s, I couldn’t believe it. He all but disappeared from the music scene decades earlier. I had to be there.
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I was obsessed with Love, especially Forever Changes, which has rightly been recognized as one of the best rock albums ever.
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Tall and lanky, wearing black cowboy boots, black jeans, and a black and white sailor shirt, he strolled onto the stage with just an acoustic guitar...and blew the audience away. Truly one of the most memorable nights of my life. After the show I told him how much his music meant to me. He signed my copy of Forever Changes, which I treasure to this day.
Arthur was a character, for sure! I saw him in 2005. Great show.
Orange Skies & She Comes In Colors are amazing. Arthur was a major talent led somewhat astray unfortunately. Still came up with 3 great albums. Band should be in R&R HOF.
Madonna ripped from that song (SHE COMES IN COLORS) heavily when she made BEAUTIFUL STRANGER for the Austin Powers movie; it's crazy how much so
Orange skirs is Brian’s though
'My Flash On You' is NOT a weak song! Yes, it borrows the chords of 'Hey Joe,' but lyrically, it's Arthur Lee's statement of intent (a la 'Boat That I Row,' 'Let Me Be,' etc.) & is therefore a vital part of the band's repertoire.
I purchased this lp when it came out my friends listened to bubble gum stuff but my older brothers tuned me in to the good stuff Cream Hendrix etc love are underrated for sure thanks 😊
The greatest Los Angeles band of all time
That love triangle that you mention in 'The Castle' is stated in the song. Arthur sings "A a love, B a love, so hard to choose". He is alluding to Arthur and Bryan as the A and B there. Love were simply phenomenal. 'Forever Changes' will always be my favourite all-time album, saw Arthur in Australia, 2003, the greatest live gig that I have ever been to. A sweaty pub in Melbourne and I was only about ten feet away from the great man, and he played every single song off 'Forever Changes'. They only had a couple of minutes to do the last song when they were told that the power would be cut off, so they finished with the most manic version of '7 & 7 is' ever. Absolute Magic.
That first side of Da Capo is, for my money, the best set of songs of the mid-Sixties. If they had been written or released by bigger bands of the time they would be considered stone cold classics. Sits right alongside Meddle by Pink Floyd as the most lopsided LP of the Sixties.
I wonder if they just didn't have the material for the second side or really wanted to stand apart by being the first Rock band to do it. I also believe that long song was inspired by the Stones Going Home, at that time the longest song on a rock album.