The .1 are the best 996s. The 3.6 liter engine in the .2 is more prone to IMSB failure and bore scoring than the early 3.4 liter engines with the double row IMS bearing and longer rods/shorter stroke. 👍
I agree. You can "cure" the IMSB problem, my choice being a self installed cylindrical bearing, but bore scoring is like a cancer and the cure cost so much more.
If a 996.1 is maintained correctly, it may be better for certain buyers. For example, I really appreciate having lower weight and a cable throttle. Also, I love my runny eggs. I do wish i had cup holders however!
Couldn’t agree with you more, of course I own a 996.1 and I did end up getting an aftermarket cup holder so all is right in the world. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
My friend has a 996.1 Cabriolet, i have a 996.2 Coupé. They are bouth fun, you dont realy notice the 20hp more. If you find a good one just buy it befor its to late ;)
The Turbo (or GT car) is the one to get if you can afford it as prices have risen and a well maintained 6-speed will cost about $50K now (you can potential find a Tiptronic for closer to $40K). Enjoy your 996 Turbo as often as you can. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
When I had my 986 Boxster I had a few people that thought it was a 911. I may not have bothered to correct them. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Jay, The MK2 only looks like sally from pixar cars, I notice you missed the reference. Had the GT1 been a road going mass produced car it would have clearly taken the widow maker name. thankfully you agree the lights look better on the MK1, as for the fried egg reference, anyone that fries an egg that looks like that needs to start buying better eggs or leaning to fry them, (that's always puzzled me) And 996.2 following should always tip their heads to the original water cooled model not try to criticize it, that should be left for the VW made cars. The MK2 does do very well in aftermarket bearing sales though.
That is a good point. I believe the manual has you use jumpers on the fuse box to open the hood, but I also believe there is an emergency cord under the car near the bumper (but I have an early 996 myself, so haven’t had to do that myself). Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
You do have a point about Sally. The fact that Disney will keep her as a 996.2 may play into values rising as children that grew up watching Cars are able to afford the cars they wanted when they were younger. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
i think the 996.1 is the better car, smaller engine yes, but it has a much smoother acceleration curve and the early cars with cable throttle are the best. I also prefer the headlights on the 996.1. For the only thing the 996.2 has that I would find handy is the glovebox, but I can live ok with out that, 996.1 for me, that 3.4 is the sweetest engine, better IMS and less prone to bore score.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. As a 996.1 owner I think you are correct, of course Jay may not think exactly the same. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Its absolutely strange to place a price regarding a 911 996 Gen 1 or Gen 2. its all about the history of the car. In the real world you can obtain a standerd 996 from 1997 for 35000k and a Gen 2 for 20000k. All depending watt the status if the car is.
Fair point. The only other big difference is the engine displacement that really would affect the price. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
996.1 all day long. Better engine (less issues) great original design the .2 light design not great and are more about not looking like a boxer. I believe if the boxer never shared the 996.1 front most people who currently own a 996 wouldn’t be able to afford one These are epic cars and all the fried egg nonsense allows ordinary people afford extra ordinary cars. Ps would love a cup holder and glove box but love my high rev 3.4
As a 996.1 owner you won’t hear an argument from me. I put an aftermarket cup holder in mine, so I’m now just missing a glove box. And that isn’t too bad. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
So you see, getting your trousers blown off on the way to an accident as a positive........?! I'm not sure you picked the most persuasive line of argument there. Haha
You probably have the best idea there. A car that isn’t maintained well can quickly become a nightmare. Thanks as always for watching and taking the time to comment.
Well can’t really argue with that. The closest I could come was listen to the guy that lived in New Zealand for a bit when he was younger. It just doesn’t have the same sound. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
ehm...not valid for me until u brought up Targa...otherwise I love the hell out of muh 996.1...but hey I love muh girlfriend but would trade her in for a targa...jus kidding babe (not)😎 and I don't like the boxster ref, but it's true DEAL WITH THE TRUTH it will set you free I am grateful that I can afford the Porsche I have!!! the girl is running me in the ground tho
Sorry that she is running you into the ground, but still try to enjoy it as often as you can. My personal favorite Porsche is the one in my garage. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
It does command a premium and in a lot of ways you are correct. Underneath it is essentially a 996.2 C4 with a Turbo body kit. Prices of the C4S are rising at least partly due to the rise of 996 Turbo prices, so many go for the C4S for the Turbo look. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
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The .1 are the best 996s.
The 3.6 liter engine in the .2 is more prone to IMSB failure and bore scoring than the early 3.4 liter engines with the double row IMS bearing and longer rods/shorter stroke.
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As a 996.1 owner I can’t say you are wrong.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I agree. You can "cure" the IMSB problem, my choice being a self installed cylindrical bearing, but bore scoring is like a cancer and the cure cost so much more.
If a 996.1 is maintained correctly, it may be better for certain buyers. For example, I really appreciate having lower weight and a cable throttle. Also, I love my runny eggs. I do wish i had cup holders however!
Couldn’t agree with you more, of course I own a 996.1 and I did end up getting an aftermarket cup holder so all is right in the world.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@Our Ride Life Oh, do tell what aftermarket cup holders you have. It's my only complaint about my Rain Forest Green 996.1
My friend has a 996.1 Cabriolet, i have a 996.2 Coupé. They are bouth fun, you dont realy notice the 20hp more. If you find a good one just buy it befor its to late ;)
You probably have the best advice.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Agreed
Got a 996.2 c4 , 2002 , 3.6 , artic silver convertible for my wife , 30,000 mile , redid all suspension bushings amazing car
Sounds like a great car. Enjoy it as often as you can.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
i have a 996 turbo. but jay's reasons points out more on why you should get a turbo rather than a 996.2
The Turbo (or GT car) is the one to get if you can afford it as prices have risen and a well maintained 6-speed will cost about $50K now (you can potential find a Tiptronic for closer to $40K).
Enjoy your 996 Turbo as often as you can.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Well done guys
Glad you liked it. It was an honor to collaborate with Jay.
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Thanks! David should take the plaudits though... it was his idea!
He’s right I have 2 boxsters an everyone I mean everyone says is that’s a cool looking 911 you have there I say thank god for the early 996 models
When I had my 986 Boxster I had a few people that thought it was a 911. I may not have bothered to correct them.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Jay,
The MK2 only looks like sally from pixar cars, I notice you missed the reference.
Had the GT1 been a road going mass produced car it would have clearly taken the widow maker name.
thankfully you agree the lights look better on the MK1, as for the fried egg reference, anyone that fries an egg that looks like that needs to start buying better eggs or leaning to fry them, (that's always puzzled me)
And 996.2 following should always tip their heads to the original water cooled model not try to criticize it, that should be left for the VW made cars.
The MK2 does do very well in aftermarket bearing sales though.
All good points.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
good fun to watch . what about the mod 2 , opening the hud when the battery is flat just saying. keep the good work up prices are rising in oz
That is a good point. I believe the manual has you use jumpers on the fuse box to open the hood, but I also believe there is an emergency cord under the car near the bumper (but I have an early 996 myself, so haven’t had to do that myself).
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Great job both of you guys...
Glad you enjoyed it. We had fun making each video.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thanks!
You missed the car which really made the head lights?? I’m disappointed
Didn’t Sally from the film ‘Cars’ have the same head lights.? 😀
You do have a point about Sally. The fact that Disney will keep her as a 996.2 may play into values rising as children that grew up watching Cars are able to afford the cars they wanted when they were younger.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Best option of all is to find a few thousand more and buy a 997.1
i think the 996.1 is the better car, smaller engine yes, but it has a much smoother acceleration curve and the early cars with cable throttle are the best. I also prefer the headlights on the 996.1. For the only thing the 996.2 has that I would find handy is the glovebox, but I can live ok with out that, 996.1 for me, that 3.4 is the sweetest engine, better IMS and less prone to bore score.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. As a 996.1 owner I think you are correct, of course Jay may not think exactly the same.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Its absolutely strange to place a price regarding a 911 996 Gen 1 or Gen 2. its all about the history of the car. In the real world you can obtain a standerd 996 from 1997 for 35000k and a Gen 2 for 20000k. All depending watt the status if the car is.
Fair point. The only other big difference is the engine displacement that really would affect the price.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
996.1 all day long. Better engine (less issues) great original design the .2 light design not great and are more about not looking like a boxer. I believe if the boxer never shared the 996.1 front most people who currently own a 996 wouldn’t be able to afford one These are epic cars and all the fried egg nonsense allows ordinary people afford extra ordinary cars. Ps would love a cup holder and glove box but love my high rev 3.4
As a 996.1 owner you won’t hear an argument from me. I put an aftermarket cup holder in mine, so I’m now just missing a glove box. And that isn’t too bad.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Boxster not boxer
Get a 996.2 if you want to drive your car at night....with a 996.1 a couple of candles would be more effective at lighting the road a head.
996.2 isn’t much better!
That may be why some headlight modifications are popular with the 996 in general.
led bulbs fit perfectly on. 1 and. 2 i actually ditched the hid and converted to leds, cooler, brighter and uses less power
or you could just install LED bulbs and then agree that the 996.1 is better :)
So you see, getting your trousers blown off on the way to an accident as a positive........?! I'm not sure you picked the most persuasive line of argument there. Haha
I will buy any 996 that I can afford thats a decently maintained car.
You probably have the best idea there. A car that isn’t maintained well can quickly become a nightmare.
Thanks as always for watching and taking the time to comment.
Jay, sell the 996.2 and get a 996.1. Stay true PORSCHE !
Or better yet, keep the 996.2 and add a 996.1 to have the 3.4 and 3.6 option.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Listen to the Brit.
Well can’t really argue with that. The closest I could come was listen to the guy that lived in New Zealand for a bit when he was younger. It just doesn’t have the same sound.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
ehm...not valid for me until u brought up Targa...otherwise I love the hell out of muh 996.1...but
hey I love muh girlfriend but would trade her in for a targa...jus kidding babe (not)😎
and I don't like the boxster ref, but it's true DEAL WITH THE TRUTH
it will set you free
I am grateful that I can afford the Porsche I have!!! the girl is running me in the ground tho
Sorry that she is running you into the ground, but still try to enjoy it as often as you can.
My personal favorite Porsche is the one in my garage.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
🤞😷🏁
C4s is an overpriced 996 in a frock.
It does command a premium and in a lot of ways you are correct. Underneath it is essentially a 996.2 C4 with a Turbo body kit. Prices of the C4S are rising at least partly due to the rise of 996 Turbo prices, so many go for the C4S for the Turbo look.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
I agree, the C4S is the wide body version for those that can't afford a proper wider body turbo