I never noticed it before now, but there is a very subtle and important demonstration of Lwaxana's personality here: Betazoids are not uncomfortable when unclothed; to the Betazed culture nudity is simply natural. When Deanna and her mother are beamed nude onto the Ferengi vessel they are irritated but NOT embarrassed. Nevertheless, when Lwaxana takes the blankets to cover themselves, she gives the first one to her daughter; protecting Deanna before herself. Deanna has lived and worked with Humans for decades; and in the Star Trek universe Humans have not yet shed the belief that nudity is strange and attractive. It says a great deal about the flamboyant, larger-than-life Lwaxana Troi that she would protect her daughter FIRST from something their own culture views as normal.
There's also a later episode (Cost of Living) when Deanna expresses horror that Lwaxana is getting a wedding dress because Betazoid weddings are traditionally nude.
Exactly. You get it. She also basically allows this ferengi scumbag to rape her, in order to protect deanna and riker. Strong female character who expresses her love for her daughter in very unconventional ways
Betazoids are usually only nude for weddings. As explained by Lwaxana in one episode (and expounded upon in the book "Imzadi"), it "honors the act of love being celebrated". It's also about honesty and openness, a hallmark of Betazoid culture and a natural outcome of everyone being telepaths. (People miss that when they call Lwaxana rude- her culture is brutally honest/forthright and virtually impossible to offend, something they developed since they know EXACTLY what others are thinking and of them. Lying or hiding anything is impossible.)
She is my all time favorite ST character and this is one of my favorite episodes. The only thing wrong with Lwaxana was that there wasn't more of her in the ST. I couldn't get enough of her. She was a star!
I know Deanna doesn't get along with Lwaxanna sometimes and Lwaxanna is overbearing. But, Lwaxanna loves Deanna and she cares and she only wants what is best for her and Deanna is the only family Lwaxanna has left. Sometimes, parents forget their children whom have grown up are not little anymore. In their eyes, they were always be their babies and they only want what its best for their children.
Parents never quite accept the fact their children are adults no matter how old they get. Mine certainly don't and I'm almost 40 and been on my own for over 20 years
@@chrismc410 Yep, thats so absolutely true about parents! In my experience. And then they wonder why their kids end up disowning them, after pushing their adult kids buttons a million times. But of course, they don't see anything wrong with it, and don't wanna take responsibility for fixing their problems. Because we're parents, we make no mistakes, and are perfectly fine with constantly screwing up 😒😒😒
That's a true observation for many, but I wouldn't say it's true for all. There's a fine line with your adult children that parents need to recognize and accept- they may be *YOUR* child, but they are not *A* child. Problem is so many still view their adult kids as children and treat them as such. They need to understand that their parenting must change appropriately as their children age; most of all, when they reach a certain age, allow them to grow, be independent, make mistakes, stumble and fall, etc. That's damn hard, as your urge is to prevent them pain (which often leads to smothering) and swoop in when they experience it. But that's not best for them. My son is almost 28. I view/treat him as the adult in his own right that he is (his words when I overheard him talking with his friends about problematic parents). But he knows he can come to me if he has a problem with anything, even if it's with me. He also knows I will *always* be there for him if need be and all he has to do is call. That includes if he makes a mistake, as we all do. In return, I expect the respect (not obedience) I've earned. In the end, he's turned into a fine young man to be proud of and we're unusually close, so I can't have screwed up too badly or my philosophy be too messed up. 😆
So this is why Neelix poses as the Ferengi Grand Proxy in the VOY episode "False Profits" years later, cuz Neelix's actor Ethan Phillips is portraying the Ferengi at 1:38.
@@mewimi Yeah, kind of hilarious how that all worked out. Ethan Phillips started out in the Star Trek franchise as a Ferengi in TNG, then went on to portray the Talaxian Neelix in VOY, who at one point was disguised as the Ferengi Grand Proxy, then went back to portraying a Ferengi again in ENT after VOY ended.
Yup, and in an Voyager episode, Neelix had to disguise himself as one to trick the stranded Ferengis to leave the native planet whose culture they changd.
Autistic Guy with a camera productions I thought it was odd that they took their clothing. You don’t see Ferengi demanding that non-Ferengi females go naked in front of them in any other episode.
@@delennamachoo well, they were hostages. Maybe they do that with female prisoners. In the comic "The Modala Imperative" Daimon Tog wanted Deanna stripped when she was captured along with Bones.
@@Autisticguywithacamera Is that comic canon? Actually I think it might have something to do with were the Ferengi are. Have we ever seen a non-Ferengi female in Ferengi space? I don't remember any. So maybe they demand that only in their territory, and a Ship of Daimon Tog would be Ferengi Territory. That they didn't stayed naked the whole Episode could be simply because the producers prefered a minor logical error over the Episode being R-rated. Edit: Actually more because Marina Sirtis and Majel Barrett would surely not like that plan than because of an r-rating.
Well it clearly seems DaiMon Tog is more tolerant than the other Ferengi, plus he wants to convince Lwaxana to do business with him (and become mates lol) he even gives her a different outfit to wear. He's breaking law in the name of love🤭
They're not that much of a menace, no. Allthough Tog was the firestarter by kidnapping the Troi's he was just being a fool. But Farek was kind of a shady doctor tho
It came to my notice that Ferengi prefer females other than their own specie in general. In Star Trek ENT there's one episode with 4 Ferengi, and one of 'em named Krem (played by Jeffrey Combs 😍) falls in-love with T'Pol. Who's Vulcan lol
I never noticed it before now, but there is a very subtle and important demonstration of Lwaxana's personality here: Betazoids are not uncomfortable when unclothed; to the Betazed culture nudity is simply natural. When Deanna and her mother are beamed nude onto the Ferengi vessel they are irritated but NOT embarrassed. Nevertheless, when Lwaxana takes the blankets to cover themselves, she gives the first one to her daughter; protecting Deanna before herself. Deanna has lived and worked with Humans for decades; and in the Star Trek universe Humans have not yet shed the belief that nudity is strange and attractive. It says a great deal about the flamboyant, larger-than-life Lwaxana Troi that she would protect her daughter FIRST from something their own culture views as normal.
Oh yeah, I didn't notice that.
There's also a later episode (Cost of Living) when Deanna expresses horror that Lwaxana is getting a wedding dress because Betazoid weddings are traditionally nude.
Exactly.
You get it. She also basically allows this ferengi scumbag to rape her, in order to protect deanna and riker. Strong female character who expresses her love for her daughter in very unconventional ways
Mother's protect their children even their adult children
Betazoids are usually only nude for weddings. As explained by Lwaxana in one episode (and expounded upon in the book "Imzadi"), it "honors the act of love being celebrated". It's also about honesty and openness, a hallmark of Betazoid culture and a natural outcome of everyone being telepaths. (People miss that when they call Lwaxana rude- her culture is brutally honest/forthright and virtually impossible to offend, something they developed since they know EXACTLY what others are thinking and of them. Lying or hiding anything is impossible.)
"You must be aware that every Female has her price".... OOOOO that laser-beam glare as she turns to put Tog in his place - Wonderful!
Majel nailed every deadpan line she ever had to deliver, whether it be as Troi or Chapel. That, "what," is amazing.
She is my all time favorite ST character and this is one of my favorite episodes. The only thing wrong with Lwaxana was that there wasn't more of her in the ST. I couldn't get enough of her. She was a star!
Lets get one thing straight, little man... Ha! That will never get old!
I know Deanna doesn't get along with Lwaxanna sometimes and Lwaxanna is overbearing. But, Lwaxanna loves Deanna and she cares and she only wants what is best for her and Deanna is the only family Lwaxanna has left. Sometimes, parents forget their children whom have grown up are not little anymore. In their eyes, they were always be their babies and they only want what its best for their children.
Parents never quite accept the fact their children are adults no matter how old they get. Mine certainly don't and I'm almost 40 and been on my own for over 20 years
@@chrismc410 Yep, thats so absolutely true about parents! In my experience. And then they wonder why their kids end up disowning them, after pushing their adult kids buttons a million times. But of course, they don't see anything wrong with it, and don't wanna take responsibility for fixing their problems. Because we're parents, we make no mistakes, and are perfectly fine with constantly screwing up 😒😒😒
That's a true observation for many, but I wouldn't say it's true for all. There's a fine line with your adult children that parents need to recognize and accept- they may be *YOUR* child, but they are not *A* child. Problem is so many still view their adult kids as children and treat them as such. They need to understand that their parenting must change appropriately as their children age; most of all, when they reach a certain age, allow them to grow, be independent, make mistakes, stumble and fall, etc. That's damn hard, as your urge is to prevent them pain (which often leads to smothering) and swoop in when they experience it. But that's not best for them.
My son is almost 28. I view/treat him as the adult in his own right that he is (his words when I overheard him talking with his friends about problematic parents). But he knows he can come to me if he has a problem with anything, even if it's with me. He also knows I will *always* be there for him if need be and all he has to do is call. That includes if he makes a mistake, as we all do. In return, I expect the respect (not obedience) I've earned. In the end, he's turned into a fine young man to be proud of and we're unusually close, so I can't have screwed up too badly or my philosophy be too messed up. 😆
even BEFORE her passing, Majel Barrett looked GOOD!!
This is a great Mother's Day episode.
1:24 That's the face of a man who's missing out
Okay, made me laugh. 😏 I feel a bit better now.
2nd Ferengi is the same actor who plays Neelix in the Voyager series. Listen to the voice.
John Billingsley
I wonder how Riker reacted to seeing Deanna return without her clothes on.
Too bad we didn't see that scene. He was likely shocked but would have dressed her again and comforted her.
The second Ferengi became NEELIX !!! In Voyager LMAO
Gene R's wife. she is so alive and vibrant.
Actually I am sorry to tell you she passed away in 2008.
"Than deal with a toged faced TROLL!!!! Like you!!" 😂😂😂😂😂 Best lawxana line ever!!!
Toad-faced 😭
*God.* I was aware that this was creepy and DANGEROUS as a child, but... I still didn't *understand.* 🤢
People that think the Ferengi are creepy and dangerous need to scratch the back of their head
1:00 holy crap is that Neelix from Voyager??
It totally sounded like him. I'm going to try to look it up ...
Yes indeed, that is Neelix himself, Ethan Phillips! 😁
So this is why Neelix poses as the Ferengi Grand Proxy in the VOY episode "False Profits" years later, cuz Neelix's actor Ethan Phillips is portraying the Ferengi at 1:38.
Don't forget, also on an ENT episode too!
@@mewimi Yeah, kind of hilarious how that all worked out. Ethan Phillips started out in the Star Trek franchise as a Ferengi in TNG, then went on to portray the Talaxian Neelix in VOY, who at one point was disguised as the Ferengi Grand Proxy, then went back to portraying a Ferengi again in ENT after VOY ended.
@@AndrewChapman Poetic justice!
Ethan played a Ferengi 3 times and a Talaxian 1 time
Ethan Philips is also the human maitre'd in the holodeck in Star Trek First Contact.
was that second ferengi played by neelix?
That is indeed Ethan Philips.
Yup, and in an Voyager episode, Neelix had to disguise himself as one to trick the stranded Ferengis to leave the native planet whose culture they changd.
How weird they didn't take the green cloth from the two of them after this scene. You'd think they would, given the Ferengi.
Autistic Guy with a camera productions I thought it was odd that they took their clothing. You don’t see Ferengi demanding that non-Ferengi females go naked in front of them in any other episode.
@@delennamachoo well, they were hostages. Maybe they do that with female prisoners. In the comic "The Modala Imperative" Daimon Tog wanted Deanna stripped when she was captured along with Bones.
@@Autisticguywithacamera Is that comic canon? Actually I think it might have something to do with were the Ferengi are. Have we ever seen a non-Ferengi female in Ferengi space? I don't remember any. So maybe they demand that only in their territory, and a Ship of Daimon Tog would be Ferengi Territory. That they didn't stayed naked the whole Episode could be simply because the producers prefered a minor logical error over the Episode being R-rated.
Edit: Actually more because Marina Sirtis and Majel Barrett would surely not like that plan than because of an r-rating.
Well it clearly seems DaiMon Tog is more tolerant than the other Ferengi, plus he wants to convince Lwaxana to do business with him (and become mates lol) he even gives her a different outfit to wear. He's breaking law in the name of love🤭
how is this woman so hot
One of those Ferengi is played by John Billingsley, Dr Phlox on ST: ENT
hahahahahhaahah I'm dead
Those ferengi are good ones.
They're not that much of a menace, no. Allthough Tog was the firestarter by kidnapping the Troi's he was just being a fool. But Farek was kind of a shady doctor tho
@@Marrie23 Well at least they have good taste.
Oh
Fascinating
Back when it was weird for Ferengi to be attracted to human-like females.
It came to my notice that Ferengi prefer females other than their own specie in general. In Star Trek ENT there's one episode with 4 Ferengi, and one of 'em named Krem (played by Jeffrey Combs 😍) falls in-love with T'Pol. Who's Vulcan lol
#SciFiIsWeird!
Neelix!!!!!!
Get a grip on reality! This is a Sci-Fi TV show!! Nothing more, nothing less!
Lwaxana is my favorite Star Trek mom!
....... Eww .......
Not like it's a big thing u know...
But she is a he...
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Are you calling Majel Barret a man?
@@Not-Ap transphobe brainrot I can only presume
Will's face!