Cherokee Grammar

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  • An excerpt about the complex case-marking grammar of Cherokee language from our film, "First Language: the Race to Save Cherokee."
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  • @alyviamarie8789
    @alyviamarie8789 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You need to go through the verbs and start small. Cherokee is a very hard language that not many of us native Americans really truly know. Like, we know them from songs but cannot speak full sentences. Start with verbs, regular terms and greetings, then move onto objects & stuff.. It is very hard especially if you only know english..

  • @vonnedavienwilson8150
    @vonnedavienwilson8150 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Every language has rules... what has made learning Tsalagi hard is not its differences from English but the vast lack of language learning resources (compared to say Spanish or English) that is the result of settler colonialism and state-sanctioned acculturation

    • @_.Lucifer_Lightfall._
      @_.Lucifer_Lightfall._ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're so right! I'm taking the slow process of using a reference grammar and dictionaries. It's not the most ideal methodology --- especially when learning for the sake of conversational competence --- but it's certainly something. I personally use Brad Montgomery-Anderson's "Cherokee Reference Grammar". I'm doing the same for the Navajo language. Fortunately enough in the case of Navajo, there's at least a Rosetta Stone course for it; so I have some good supplement. :)

    • @businessclasslanguages7555
      @businessclasslanguages7555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m in the middle of creating online lessons for learning the indigenous languages. And you’re right, not a whole lot out there. So I’m gathering as much as I can to post on my website.

    • @sion8
      @sion8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah… they weren't literate until the 19th century, so I wouldn't blame it on just colonialism.

  • @appleicatpromax7069
    @appleicatpromax7069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very high quality video. I am a native English speaker, although I believe I'm having a much easier time then most learning Tsalagi because I already speak 2 other languages.
    Thank you for doing your part in preserving our roots.

  • @Aerospaceman
    @Aerospaceman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cherokee from this lesson appears to illustrate how it's based upon physical descriptions. The Japanese language is based on measuring. Distance for example, shopping and asking about an item within your intimate, personal, or public distance. Speaking with regard to age, very young, teen or young adult, adult, and senior where the language is newer for the young to seniors where it is more ancient.
    I'm digging up my family history and the stories are my grandmother was full blooded Cherokee. She named me Big Bear that Walks.

  • @whitetopmountainlaurelchil3541
    @whitetopmountainlaurelchil3541 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awe some, we hope we can see more of your public learning on the Eastern Band Language of North Western and western of the North Carolina Cherokee. Our Tribal Culture is from the Laurel Band Mountains area. Good job and we want to inspire what you are doing and to continue your mission. In time it will make progress and learning skill will increase in ways to teach the language. By making pictures with words on flash cards helps people to learn what the words are. Like posting the name of the item on the item to learn the name in the home the same with your job, tool shed and so on. I thank you are doing a good job so keep up the good work.

  • @Azathoth4444
    @Azathoth4444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't find any translation for this inscription found on a cave in kentucky.
    Go sv ha ye gi na tso quo do wa v wi tso ma que hna ga

  • @businessclasslanguages7555
    @businessclasslanguages7555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been looking at making lessons for learning Indigenous languages through the learning method I’ve created. But as mentioned in an earlier comment, there’s not a lot out there. So I’m gathering as much information as I can for them. This helps to see how the language works. Thanks for sharing. 😎👍

  • @emilylee5109
    @emilylee5109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wanna learn cherokee

  • @Redfernroses
    @Redfernroses 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I’m trying to self teach myself using the online classes and videos, Is the textbook for sale?

  • @frazerguest2864
    @frazerguest2864 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo to them.

  • @Hyperion-5744
    @Hyperion-5744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found this on google images in cherokee script i was able to transliterate it but can't find any translations for it.
    Dikalvgviditlv unadenvhi ale wudeligviditlv anehi anitsalagi taline tsunadlastanvhi tsigi ale saquo ayeli unotlvnvhi tsigi hia tsinudi tsalagi ayeli unetlvsvi nasgi iyusdi ayv tsalagiyi ogitsati ayeli tsogilawitsvhi gesvi ugvwali duyugodv usda-yohisdi gesvi ale tsogetsi galvquodi ogadatseli gesvi gvnigesv notsvnehv otsvdisgv udanelisdi ale alihelisdi adanvdadisdi gesvi udanvtiyu gesv ugvwiyu sadegi.

  • @TheGrmany69
    @TheGrmany69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, it's verb and semi-pronoun / classificative pronoun based. In theory it should be easier for a Spanish speaker to learn this language, at least on this particular feature, right?

    • @Zdrange03
      @Zdrange03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, it's not the same at all. The verb chosen in this video seemed to behave neatly, but that's not the case for all such verbs. Cherokee has a few dozens classificatory verbs, and they are all constructed differently. The difficulty of classificatory verbs in Cherokee is not the concept in itself (which can be found in other languages) but really their grammatical formation. Look up the paper by Uchihara "noun incorporation revisited" and look at the last 10 pages, showing all the classificatory verbs and their building "formula". It is absolutely dizzying. How can a language be so irregular?? Navajo on the other hand is really super neat and regular.

    • @TheGrmany69
      @TheGrmany69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zdrange03 Superb comment!

    • @TheGrmany69
      @TheGrmany69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zdrange03 Well, I read the paper' conclusion and it seems too broad of an analysis to actually set things in stone about the language itself. Apparently Cherokee is te post distant language in the family and sustain certain features in incorporation on lexicon, specially verbs that break with the patterns found in the rest of the languages of the Iroquian family... but without proper introduction to the language and or understanding a decription like this seems problematic, I am not an expert but I know about learning languages and I can attest that the dialect is important in this tipe of situations, also the logic the language follows, the whole sense particles and other structural elements in the language take and that are bound to the perception of the speaker is really important... in that sense can be easier to learn the language if you depart from one language rather than another, like in this case Spanish vs English.
      You see, regularity is a tricky thing, English is very regular in its pronunciation - contrary to what is taught to us foreigners - but it depends on the dialect you choose to use to learn the language and the way you understand how letters work, all this stack up over time and let us achieve different perspectives on how certain things work, this is beyond natural languages, mathematics and metaphysics work like this also, it all comes together to perception and cognition. This also applies to lexicon, Spanish, for example, is also very irregular in its verbs, many must be learned one by one, they can be analysed but it's easier to do so by rote memorisation, and maybe just because Cherokee is kind of difficult to pronounce you need to understand the pronunciation system thoroughly to catch any deformation of the lexicon.

  • @Azathoth4444
    @Azathoth4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The land
    Na gadohi cherokee
    Ni gazar mongolian
    Hope this comment doesn't get deleted just for comparison it's been happening to me every time i do this.

  • @markgable1280
    @markgable1280 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “V” is a nasal e

  • @godwannabe8976
    @godwannabe8976 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can U learn tsalagi/cherokee in Houston? Pls

  • @sweetb4thesee
    @sweetb4thesee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d like to name my child Little Bear. The Cherokee word ᎤᏍᏗ ᏲᎾ is a name for Little Bear. Pronounced in English, Usti Yona. Our new baby boy will be just 1/32nd Cherokee but we want to give him this as his rootsy middle name. Cruz Usti Yona Buhl. I was wondering if the name should be just one word instead....Ustiyona. What do you think? Ustiyona or Usti Yona or Usti’yona?

    • @tsasuyeda
      @tsasuyeda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Drop the modifier and just use the noun Yona. If you are trying to use it as bearcub, that is a different word. If you want to tell him hes tiny when he is 40+ old then go ahead- but its not the best idea.

    • @xevilsimmer
      @xevilsimmer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how about none

    • @AshTheGamerIsAwesome
      @AshTheGamerIsAwesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1/32nd Cherokee? Drop the cringe.

  • @Zdrange03
    @Zdrange03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    too bad you did not pronounce the actual words.

    • @Rolando_Cueva
      @Rolando_Cueva 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Almost) dead language, who cares.

    • @ayla5930
      @ayla5930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rolando Cueva people who are learning it, that’s who care

    • @ayla5930
      @ayla5930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Judorange1980 just look up the pronunciation of the syllabary and you’ll be able to pronounce the words shown in the video however please note that tsalagi can be tonal and uses glottal stops at depending on the word an example of a glottal stop is the word stoplight or flashlight. The glottal stop Separates the word and keeps it from running on

    • @Zdrange03
      @Zdrange03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ayla5930 that's why I'm saying they should have pronounced the word because syllabary does a poor job rendering actual pronuncitaion.

    • @xevilsimmer
      @xevilsimmer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rolando Cueva shut the fuck up

  • @danielgarcia-cd4cw
    @danielgarcia-cd4cw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ᏣᎳᎩ???????

  • @alyssarosa164
    @alyssarosa164 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ᎻᏆ

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW. No wonder our Native American Soldiers Won WW2. Indigenous language

  • @stephencrompton4352
    @stephencrompton4352 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What?

  • @George040270
    @George040270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This clip is too long for me to watch. It needs to be shortened.

    • @josephr.gainey2079
      @josephr.gainey2079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then you certainly don't have the attention span needed to learn another language, much less a very grammatically complex one like Cherokee!

    • @Zdrange03
      @Zdrange03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@josephr.gainey2079 I think it was sarcasm?