Jed's Quiet Desperation | The West Wing
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Season 3 Episode 14: Night Five
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“This is a hell of a curve you get graded on now.” Such great writing
I love the symbolism of pulling a cigarette infront of his father's picture, like smoking is his only vice and he does it as a form of rebellion against his father even in his 60s
Or maybe it's the show the stress of trying to satisfy his father lead him to smoking, since he didn't smoke as a younger man
No. Pretty much everyone who grew up in the '50s and '60s was a smoker at some point in their lives.
To me, it's Jed moving his own goal posts. Jed moved from wanting his father's approval, to Lincoln's approval. And why would Lincoln care about smoking?
@james.....
Interesting take ..
One of the best minor characters in the series.
Agree. Maybe THE best!!
@@martismith8453 Nope, Lord John Marbury. After that, the White House Curator, Bernard Thatch.
I've never wished a fictional character existed more than this very moment. And I'm not even talking about Bartlett.
This show is so amazing, that sometimes you forget the amazing cinematography of the show.
Look at the last shot, from when Stanley says goodbye to end-credits. One continuous shot with multiple focus pulls until we dolly out of a window. Amazing.
I’m so glad I’m rewatching this on MAX now. It actually calms me down at the end of the day. This show is still so great! Even so many years later.
Better than ever now. It's a pleasant reminder of how things were, should be, and hopefully will be again someday.
This is something the West Wing excels at, establishing barriers for Jed. Pretty much everywhere in his world, he is the most powerful man, and people have to respect his title as POTUS. But situations like this, Jed needs to be reminded that he is still just a man. Whether it's Leo calling him Jed out of frustration for him not telling him about his MS, or Father Cavanaugh asking him if he wishes to confess his sins. These little moments where the title of POTUS doesn't apply.
One of my favorite episodes. The main cast is always great. Adam Arkin did such an awesome job.
I like how Stanley didn’t care he was the President, but just another patient, and that during there therapy sessions together Stanley was the one in charge not the President.
I think it's really important when someone is in a position of authority to have people around them who don't treat you differently, they are the true counsel you can rely on, and that goes for everyone from the grocery store manager to the president of the USA
OMG, I miss this show, and dream of someone like Jed for my president…and in reality, I have a slug. Got to keep wishing and working toward the “next Jed”.
Adam Arkin was so good in this role.
Also great in a smaller guest starring role in The Newsroom.
I had completely forgotten this arch! Thanks!
I hope he continued with Stanley. He needed it.
I love the way he doesn't care that Bartlett is President. In this scene the psychiatrist is the one in complete control and will say whatever he wants to the most powerful man on Earth and nothing will happen to him.
unironically wondering if modern presidents get assigned white house therapists because they really should
Yeah, but then The Phone Company sends assassins after them.
The WH medical office definitely has a mental health component a psychiatrist would be a Navy Admiral.
"I'm me and you're you and we're done when I say we're done." This may be the only line in the series where we see that Bartlet is drunk on his own power.
I would disagree with calling him "drunk on power." And it's not the only time. He once called out a right wing "doctor" for her ignorance and prejudice. And then he roasted her for not standing when he came into the room. That's called flexing your muscle. Worked with the far-right radio doctor. Didn't work with Stanley.
@@larrysmith2638 Well, that was different (great scene based on Dr. Laura Schlesinger). His goal there was to diminish her in front of a group of people by not only by pointing out that did she not respect people whose lives were different from hers, but that she didn't even respect where she was or notice that not a single other person there was seated. I mean, how does not one know that if the president enters the room, you stand (like when a judge enters a courtroom). A bit different than "you're you and I'm me." They gave us a taste of Jed as a teen with a young Mrs. Landingham where she pointed out to him that he had gifts. It would have been great if they gave us a taste of Bartlet in college and in his twenties (and perhaps when he was first elected to Congress) when he became much more aware of his "abilities." Also, they once mention that Jed had a brother, but we learned absolutely nothing about him. What was HIS story? That would have been great for them to explore.
Wait... Lawrence O'Donnell is Jed Bartlet's father?
Yes. Go watch Two Cathedrals, the finale of Season 2. It has a lot of Jed's back story.
@@jasonkoch3182 OMG. I adore Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC and absolutely detested Bartlet father in TWW. Just now realized that although he did not change in outward appearance the contrast in expression/personality is so vast I just never connected them.
I have to stop watching these clips. I have the WW box set and I’m watching 1 episode per week. I have to pace myself over the next few years.
Absolutely baffling that neither of them bring up his MS as a possible cause of his sleep issues. Like, sure, it might be unresolved dad issues. OR, it just might be a very common MS symptom caused by his damaged nervous system. Parent issues are probably more interesting dramatically, but if you’re going to inexplicably give a character a life-altering chronic condition, they should at least mention it.
Stanley was one of my favorite characters on TWW… until he was killed by Michael Myers 😢
such a horrible episode
As society goes through its de-mythalization process and Civil War statues are removed regardless of other achievements the person may have made, how long will the Lincoln myth survive? Does Lincoln's death mean the truth of his motivations or beliefs will never be explored? Civil War ended US legal slavery and with that celebration, the next 80 years of the Black American experience is ignored. Lincoln was included at the beginning of this honest history pursuit, but he was protected, and interest was pulled away so he could remain the biggest "We aren't all bad" representational ally.
Are you blaming Lincoln for segregation and the sabotaging of reconstruction?
"As society goes through its de-mythalization process and Civil War statues are removed regardless of other achievements the person may have made"
A society that hates its past will not have the willpower to preserve its future. The day anti-reverence for our founders and forefathers becomes the mainstream view rather than the noise made by an unruly rabble will be the day we have much bigger things to worry about.
@ so much words and yet you’ve said nothing. What does any of that have to do with Lincoln
@@gamm8939 Wasn't Lincoln a (insert insult) Lincoln owned(insert something that makes him cancelable)
It's an example of what they were talking about.
Oh, please with your straw man. Abraham Lincoln's "motivations and beliefs" have, of course, been explored extensively for at least a century. There is no lack of scholarship regarding him - and, if anything, he stands taller now because of it. If his legacy was ever in fact "protected," that protection was stripped away long ago. You could benefit from a trip to your local public library.
Never notice Stanley calls him Mr. Bartlet. Such a great scene.